1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: What's up everybody? 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: DJ? 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 2: Buck here, move the sticks, Buck, what's going on? Man 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: another man? 6 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 3: DJ? It is on and pop and training camp is 7 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 3: in full swing. High school football is also underway, so 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: they don't think we're waiting on his little college football 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 3: to kick off, and we have all of the football going. 10 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you'd miss Monday's episode where we broke down 11 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: what transpired with all these quarterback contracts, went deep into that, 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: but we're going to stay on that topic a little 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: bit with our next guest, because our next guest is 14 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: Yogi Roth, who is now with the Big Ten Network. 15 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: Long time, I'll say it. He was the face of 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve, not only the PAC twelve network, but 17 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: the entire conference. Was carrying the flag for that conference 18 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: for a long time. But now as that is kind 19 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: of folded and now you just have those two teams 20 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: left there, he has moved on to the Big Ten Network. 21 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: He also has some other interesting things going on in 22 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: his work life, which excited to share with everybody out there. 23 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: But here is our chat with Yogi Roth. All right, 24 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: Buck here he is our good buddy, Yo you'reroth joining 25 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: us now. Yog's first of all, I know, like I 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: know the two books that you've written, have you written 27 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: have written any more? I mean, I know obviously you've 28 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: got five Star QB, which is the latest and greatest. 29 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: You've got the Pete Carroll book, which is phenomenal. Have 30 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: you written any other books? Because you have the books 31 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: written to books on the shelf ratio right now I 32 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: think might be a little skewede. What are we working 33 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: with here? 34 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know there's two more. 35 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrote you. 36 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did a book called from Pia to La 37 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: where you'd love this. It was my last year. I 38 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: had a feeling been my last year on the Peek 39 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: Carroll staff at SC and as I looked to like 40 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: Golden pat Rule who you guys know, line coach and 41 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: even Coach Carroll. I was like, would they ever remembered 42 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: what it was like in Arkansas in the seventies and 43 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: the lou Holtz Probably not. So I was like every 44 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: night I took ten minutes and I wrote every night 45 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: throughout the entire season what it was like to prep 46 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: for Ohio State, What was it like for the Texas game? Like, 47 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: what it was like to play everybody and my role 48 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: and just the relationship ships and the whole dynamic of 49 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: you know what was I thought a really special season 50 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine. Uh So I ended up 51 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: writing that book from Pier to La and then I 52 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: actually in the pandemic when this beautiful set and all 53 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: these books showed up to my house because we're all, 54 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, bound to our homes. Our oldest son was 55 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: struggling learning how to read. So I was like, all right, 56 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: how am I going to help him out here? So 57 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: we wrote a book together called Finding Free Fun, which 58 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: was this little boy name named Zaye who's his name? 59 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: And it was and it was him trying to, you know, 60 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: find free fun around California. So it was it was cool. 61 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, check those out if if you haven't mad 62 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: a little reading in your training camp tour, here you go. 63 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: I know, I got five Star QB Bucks shipped to 64 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: the house. But some reason, the other the other books 65 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: never made it here. Man, I don't know, they got 66 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: lost in the mail. Yeah what happened there? 67 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: That's that's funny because coming off the heels of five 68 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: Star QB, I want to ask you this because this 69 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: is unprompted. Uh, I was in Miami over the weekend 70 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: and to it just signed his deal and hearing to 71 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: talk about his journey, all the noise, having to deal 72 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: with the ups and downs and all those things. So 73 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: I was able to ask him. I said, two, when 74 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: I met you, you were sixteen. If you could you're 75 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: six and yourself, what would you tell him? And he 76 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: just talked about I would say, just stay on the 77 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: right track. So yo, y'all want to tap into you. 78 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: There are a lot of Lead eleven alums that are 79 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: signing these big deals, but you've seen them kind of 80 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: like sometimes at the Lewis moment where they first first 81 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: time they've ever hit adversity. What have you learned from 82 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 3: watching all of these guys going their individual journeys and 83 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: a bunch of them finding success at the end of. 84 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really cool topic and how exciting for 85 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: all of these guys. It's a big part of even 86 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: like what this book is, even like every Tuesday this year, 87 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: we're going to kick out advice from those guys. Right, 88 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna call it like five star advice from the 89 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: likes of Tua, from the likes of Boonicks, from the 90 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: likes of Herbert, all these guys that have, you know, 91 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: signed these huge deals, but have figured life out along 92 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: the way because they go through a lot. You go 93 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: back to Tua's year. We did a film that year 94 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: that I was lucky enough to direct, and we called 95 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: it The It Factory. I'm pretty sure it and a 96 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: bunch and we wanted to go around the country and 97 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: ask elite NFL guys, Russell Wilson, elite NFL coaches, Pete Carroll, 98 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera, et cetera, what is that phrase? And what 99 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: we learned and this is how we would define it 100 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: is the IT factor is when you walk in a room, 101 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 1: you make everybody feels your presence and you make them better. 102 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: And Tua, in my opinion, has had the best IT 103 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: factor I've ever seen in my Elite eleven experience. You 104 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: saw him in the Nike campus, like he walked up there, 105 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: and this is a guy who's not going to cuss, 106 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: he's not going to party, He's going to be straight 107 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: and narrow, but he can relate to anybody. He always 108 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: had that, But his football journey wasn't, to your point, 109 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: wasn't linear. I mean he came to an allege eleven Regional. 110 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's online. I mean Trent Dilfer kind of 111 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: chewed in him a little bit and challenging him. He mechanically, 112 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: can you elevate your game? And the quote that we've 113 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: often used at Elite eleven that I would agree with 114 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: is that the limiting factor in reaching your potential is 115 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: flawed mechanics. And in high school at fIF seing sixteen 116 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: years old, he was a little bit flawed and he 117 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: went to work. I mean, you could go back and 118 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: watch that film. It he'll give you chills because we 119 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: have all this footage for him working in the night 120 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: literally under like the street lights, at these little beaches 121 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: in Hawaiian, these little parking lots. And he came to 122 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: the doven finals a different dude and came out and 123 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: ripped it and on his way to the MVP, of course, 124 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: but just a special guy that wasn't afraid to wasn't 125 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: afraid to grow. And I think in this era in 126 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: this book that you guys have reference and Daniel contributed to, like, 127 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: guys are afraid sometimes to ask to grow because they're 128 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: told who they are, they're told what they're supposed to 129 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: be and how they're supposed to be. Toua was not that. 130 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: He was wide open. Don't make me better man, And 131 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: I'll never forget when we gave him the MVP. I 132 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: have the chills thinking about it. Is in this beautiful 133 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: room in Nike's campus, and he knew the growth that 134 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: he had just in six months. I can only imagine 135 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: what he was like with you after the growth of 136 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: what six years it has been or even longer than 137 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: that since the Elite eleven to now signing this massive. 138 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: Deal, yokes. I want to follow up on what you 139 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: guys are just talking about there, because we've seen not 140 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: only that to a deal, we saw the Jordan Love 141 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: deal come down. We're waiting on deck to see what 142 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: happens there. We've got five guys just from that twenty 143 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: twenty class alone that have got paid. What you know, 144 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: and this is going along the lines of what you're 145 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: just talking about, the not realizing or recognizing this as 146 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: an endpoint but still is a part of the journey. 147 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: What is the key to that? 148 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: Because so many guys can look at it and say, 149 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: get to the NFL as the goal. Okay, accomplish that 150 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: goal now, okay, Well I want to get to that 151 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: second contract taken care of generational wealth done. But then 152 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: it's like, okay, now it gets harder. You're making more 153 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: money on the cap, so there's going to be a 154 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: little bit less around you now. So being where you 155 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: are status quo is not going to be good enough. 156 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: What is the key on that growth mindset for these 157 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: guys to go from there? 158 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's probably different at different stages, right, 159 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: Like it's sixteen is a different answer than in eighteen, 160 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: at twenty two. And then once you get in the NFL. 161 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean I can remember this like yesterday with an 162 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: Elite eleven quarterback back in the day. It was a 163 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: couple of years before Tua and I walked up to 164 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: him on campus and his mom was there when she 165 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: was watching him, and she said, my baby's gonna get 166 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: me in the league. On his right arm, he had 167 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: the NFL logo tattooed. We know quarterbacks, I think pretty well. 168 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: You can tell. You can tell what guys have and 169 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: what they don't early on, and it was gonna be 170 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: a long road alloted to change in my opinion at 171 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: that stage for that invgural player to find a way 172 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: to actualize the dream that he and or his family had. 173 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: Why do I say that, Like, it's not wrong for 174 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: parents to dream. I dream for my kids. You guys 175 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: do all the time as well. Challenges to me at 176 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: that young age. It's your community, especially now, I mean 177 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: you're getting broke off. And I'll say this from coming 178 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: off of the second straight year at a LEAD eleven 179 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: where nil is a real factor in these players' lives. 180 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: They're more connected to the present moment than ever before. 181 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: I thought these last two classes would be terrible. I 182 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: thought it'd be like, oh, here we go, ego centric, 183 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: everybody's going to be a narcissist or what is this 184 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: going to be? Like it's already miserable, And no, it 185 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: was the exact opposite. They were leaning in seeking tools. 186 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: So I start with the community of like what is 187 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: the community doing to make sure you have these tools 188 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: in front of you? And all you need now is 189 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: like good internet, right, you can watch Tom versus Time, 190 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: you could follow Mike Gervay's podcast, you could listen to 191 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: you guys, like there's a ton there to tap in 192 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: between the years. I'd say community one. I think the 193 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: second part is what I hope happens with this new 194 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: legislation in college is that you commit to a place. 195 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: You commit to a place. You guys had Chris Peterson 196 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: on I talk to him all the time, like the 197 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: number one element of success and I know you guys 198 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: asking a pre draft. We ask at the eleven is 199 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: describe a moment when you've had to go through diversity 200 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: and now in college because you could transfer unlimited times 201 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: and go play players I think are robbing themselves have 202 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: an experience. I'm not just sticking through tough times, but 203 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: being committed to the tough time. Like when you know 204 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks rips my ass on the field, I can't 205 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: go in the lock and be like I'm out. I 206 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: have to be like, okay, let's throw it down even harder. 207 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: Like that is a part that I think is getting 208 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: lost because it's easy to dip. It's easy to think 209 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: you're going to go to another place because you can. 210 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: So I think, in the moment of college, throw it 211 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: out and then evaluate it. You evaluate it, put in 212 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: the calendar. You're not even thinking about another option until 213 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: bowl preparation begins or what have you. And then I 214 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: think in the NFL, it's my last thing in the 215 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: NFL is just truly competing too. I call it the 216 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: lonely work. Are you willing to do the boring things longer? 217 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: Not longer than anyone else, just longer. Jared Goff perfect example, 218 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: on that next next contract, he does the boring things longer, 219 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: the film study, the body, taking care of his body, 220 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: the mental skills, all of those things. So I think 221 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: those are the three stages from high school to college 222 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: to the pros that I'd recommend. 223 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: Buck, You know, Buck, real quick, I was gonna ask 224 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: you this, Buck, because this is the analogy that I 225 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: was just rolling through my head. Was like, now, it's 226 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: like I would call it that like a ways quarterback, 227 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: you know, like the app you know, ways God helps 228 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: you dodge traffic, helps you get off and avoid any 229 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: accidents or any any turmoil. Like we didn't have. There 230 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: wasn't a ways out back in the day. You had 231 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: to just kind of work your way through the traffic 232 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: and navigate your way. You set your course and you 233 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: stayed on your course, you didn't divert. So that was 234 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: like a little that little image that popped in my 235 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: mind is like now in society, it's a lot easier 236 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: for these guys trying to get off the freeway and 237 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: kind of avoid the traffic. 238 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 3: Not to Jay's funny you talking about avoiding the traffic. 239 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: I'm just look, I don't think it's a coincidence that 240 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 3: the guys that we've seen signed these big deals, they've 241 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: all had the adversity happen right in front of everybody, 242 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: in front of the world to see. And so Yogi, 243 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: when you talk to young quarterbacks and those things, what 244 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: are the things that I don't know mentors or coaches 245 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: can do to help the young generation get ready for 246 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: what's ahead because the adversity is coming and they have 247 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: to know that it's not going to be a straight 248 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 3: line to being super successful as an NFL quarterback. 249 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm getting them getting comfortable now. Is if I'm 250 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: a flag football coach. Okay, guys need to know this. 251 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: I had flag coach and youth sports, so let me 252 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: start there. I really think that you sports are a 253 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: beautiful environment for all of our children to grow and 254 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: learn from and parents to probably learn from them. It's 255 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: also a slippery slope where it can become a borderline 256 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: ridiculous if not inappropriate and not from a behavioral standpoint, 257 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: but from a timing standpoint, from a commitment standpoint, from 258 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: a joy standpoint, like I see more young players who 259 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: show up at the Elite to eleven not necessarily in 260 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: love with the game, but maybe in love with the 261 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: game has done for them, which is scholarship, change their 262 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: life and they want to love it. But a lot 263 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: of that gets robbed because they're a ranking. I tell them, 264 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: now you're not only wearing a helmet, you're not only 265 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: a ranking, but now you're a transaction, like you're a 266 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: million dollar quarterback, Dylan Reyola, whatever it might be. So 267 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: they again I go back to, like to the mentorship 268 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: part of this community of are you helping them identify 269 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: what matters most? So the theme of a Lead to 270 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: eleven this year for you guys was that title, which 271 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: was chase what Matters? And I spent a year and 272 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: a half studying every coach I've ever interviewed, so you know, 273 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: you call game and you've got all these notes everywhere, 274 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, right, let me organize this. And 275 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: I went into it with a colleague and I was like, 276 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: let's see if there's a theme, and the theme was 277 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: the best teams, the best coordinators, the best players, the 278 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: best organizations do one thing and one thing only is 279 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: they chase what matters. So how do they do it? Well? 280 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: They have clarity around what matters most? So what matters most? 281 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: Is it the biggest nil deal? If so cool, go 282 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: for it. If it's playing great, go for it. But 283 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: whatever it is, identify it. So clarity, then confidence in 284 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: whatever it is that you say matters most, and then discipline, 285 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: discipline around how you go attack that. And it was 286 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: really fun. So I would say those things, making sure 287 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: the young athlete is still enjoying the craft, and then 288 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: tapping into what matters most. Is it what matters most 289 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: to you? Is the mentor is it what matters most 290 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: to them? And go down that road. And it was 291 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: so fun with twenty quarterbacks guys to do this exercise 292 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: this summer and find out, you know, a lout really 293 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: to come to the surface because those guys didn't know 294 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: what mattered most of them because they're being told what 295 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: matters most, grow your Instagram, make more money, all great things, 296 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: but they all love to compete and play at a 297 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: high level. So I would say that's that's where I 298 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: would net out. 299 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fantastic. We're going to take a quick break 300 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 2: here and then we'll come back. We'll pick up with Yogi. 301 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 2: I want to remind you, guys, Top one hundred is back. 302 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: Find out who the players voted as the best player 303 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 2: in the NFL. Had an NFL Plus Daily for the 304 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: exclusive list, and don't miss the countdown conclusion, a one 305 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: hour live show on NFL Network on August second at 306 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: eight pm Eastern. Go to Plus dot NFL dot com 307 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: to sign up today. All right, Yoges, I want to 308 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: transition a little bit here, because first of all, we 309 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: need a life update of what's going on in your world, 310 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 2: and then that's going to lead to a whole new conversation. 311 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: But for those that don't know, obviously Yoges was the 312 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: he was the face of the PAC twelve, let's be honest, 313 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: not just the network, the entire conference. So some things 314 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: have changed obviously with that conference. Some change some things 315 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: have changed obviously with what you'll be doing this false 316 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: Why don't you fill everybody in? 317 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thanks for you guys have been such great 318 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: supporters of not only the PAC twelve as a league, 319 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: the players, but you all know so I love you 320 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: guys so much. As you know what goes into allowing 321 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: something to have success. PAC twelve came off the most 322 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: successful year in probably our lifetime's history. When you look 323 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: at the draft and the town at least at the 324 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: very top, and my heart goes out to my two 325 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: hundred plus colleagues. That's still a searching for work by 326 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: no fault of their own. So it was a great 327 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: league that meant so much to me and still will. 328 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: I'll support those two schools. I hope they rebuild it 329 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: or find a new home in every way, shape or form. 330 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: But as the league started to take a different shape, 331 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: I knew I'd have to figure out my next move. 332 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: So I'm going to be doing two things this fall 333 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: and hopefully for a long time. I'll be calling games 334 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: on the Big ten Network every weekend, all being on 335 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: their studio shows during the week. And then also as 336 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: chaos was kind of happening, I realized, like all these 337 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: fan bases I was doing games last year and even 338 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: spring football, like there's no Big twelve network, there's not 339 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: necessarily places for every team to tell their story. And 340 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: I've spent twenty years in this league, so as those 341 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: fans and those schools are looking for options to tell 342 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: their stories because I was looking for an option from 343 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: my next job. I love the West Coast option offense 344 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: and the play Why Option, So I created a platform 345 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: and a new show called Why Option, which is college 346 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: football through the lens of the West Coast. So every 347 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: couple of days, I'm in your inbox via sub stack, 348 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: a newsletter, video interviews with players and coaches. Hopefully you 349 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: two will come on throughout the fall. So it's something 350 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm really proud of and taking a little agency in 351 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: my career. You know, you kind of try to hopefully 352 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: you land somewhere, and I'm really grateful to do it. 353 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: But I also wanting to make sure that I continue 354 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: to serve a fan base that I built a really 355 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: fun relationship with over the last twenty years. So we'll 356 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: be throwing down there. So why Option dot Com. We'll 357 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: get your hat right there behind me. We'll get you that. 358 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: There. By the way, can you throw the book in 359 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: with them when that comes? A couple of books, a 360 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: couple of hats. 361 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: But that in the Big ten and the Big ten's 362 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: fun just coming off of media days, I mean it is. 363 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: It is a different beast than the SEC. I'm just 364 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: gonna be blunt with you in terms of you look 365 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: at when you see all those logs and you really 366 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: see from coast to coast, and yes, I you know Rutgers, 367 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: which I think can win eight or nine games this year, 368 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: to the up who was just in the title, to Oregon, 369 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: who I think can win the title, the sc Ohio State, 370 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: Nebraska up and coming. I mean you sit back and 371 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: you're like, it kind of feels like a version of 372 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,359 Speaker 1: the NFL. 373 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: Which you got a NFL life. 374 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: And I'm really stoked. 375 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: Man. 376 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: The people were amazing, the new coaches. I got to 377 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: meet all of them. I can't wait. You know, I'm 378 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: doing your version. I'm doing thirteen training camp tours. So 379 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: you dubbed Oregon to Penn State, to Nebraska, Ohio State, 380 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: let Michigan. 381 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: Let's go man, so yogi, I got I got to 382 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: ask you this because you talked about why option kind 383 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: of viewing college football from a West Coast LANs. Let's 384 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: just talk about the challenge of the teams that were 385 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: in the pack moving into the Big ten. A lot 386 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: of times from DJ's DJ and I's vantage point, when 387 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: you're working for an NFL team, you build your team 388 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: to win a division. Well suddenly those teams they went 389 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: to Pac Twell, they got to build their team to 390 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: win the Big Ten. How does it change to team 391 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 3: building process for those teams that are jumping into a 392 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: new league. 393 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be the funnest thing I think to 394 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: figure out, because there's a narrative of like when we 395 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: were growing up and it was like Kajna Carter and 396 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: Curtisinis and you know that that version of the Big Ten, 397 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: and then there's the PAC twelve, right, the version of 398 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: people think that it's all air raid and it's not. 399 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: You know, you go watch and you look at the 400 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: best teams, whether it's Utah or Oregon or U dub 401 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: over the course of time, they just played winning football 402 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: like they were built from the inside out to take 403 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: a run. And now you've an expanded playoff. I think 404 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: that'll only get get heightened. So I don't see teams 405 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: saying how we have to recruit dramatically differently, even if 406 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: they're trying, it's not as easy to go do that. 407 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you got to recruit your your community, your network, 408 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: your you know, your region. I get it's a national conference, 409 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: but I still go back to what I learned at 410 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: SC and or coach Carol and I believe it is 411 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: if you're at SC or UCLA, you recruit, you know, 412 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: Bakersfield of San Diego, and then you leave for first 413 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: round picks. For the most part, like stay in your 414 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: home base because now with then you're just getting leveraged, 415 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: in my opinion, so often by players out of state, 416 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: and there's so much pressure within their state, within their 417 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: collective to make sure they can pay. So until that 418 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: revenue sharing model really kicks in, it'll be interesting to track. 419 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: I think the other thing in the Big Ten that 420 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm curious about is that you know, they had all 421 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: these elite defenses last year, and I agree with it. 422 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: We saw what Michigan was, what Ohio State was, but 423 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: truth be told, they didn't face bon Nix or Michael 424 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: Pennix Junior or Caleb Williams. I mean, the quarterback play 425 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: was nowhere near the West Coast. I mean just that 426 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: media days fellas, there are only five quarterbacks that showed up, 427 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: and three of them came from the four schools from 428 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: the West Coast, So that means there's a lot of 429 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: cool space for new faces to emerge. Aidan Chiles, Dylan 430 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: ray Ola. I mean there's a lot of fun guys 431 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: to talk about, but nobody's that's really established. So I'd 432 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: be curious, how did the defense deal with on Lincoln 433 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: Riley offense? How do they deal with will Stein's offense 434 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: from Oregon? Jed Fish at UDB. I don't know Eric 435 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: Bienemy at UCLA, but I'm not ready to like go 436 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: down the narrative of it's the most physical league and 437 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: you have to play three yards and a cloud of dust, 438 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: Like I think that's a little TBD, and I can't 439 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: wait to find out. 440 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: One of the thoughts that was going through my mind 441 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: is because that was the talking point, right because I 442 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: think it's the smaller number of schools coming in, so 443 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: they're they're viewed as how are these smaller number of 444 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: schools going to adjust to the whole of the Big Ten? 445 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: And all I could think of was, I think it 446 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: was like one of the early Batman movies with Jack 447 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: Nicholson as the joker and he says, wait till they 448 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: get a load of me. Like I think of like 449 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: some of these offensive coaches from the from the pack 450 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: being like, yeah, we have quarterbacks and receivers and running 451 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: backs and tight ends like they're gonna have to adjust 452 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: to us as well as we're going to have to 453 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: adjust to them. But one of the things that listening 454 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: to and I saw a lot of your coverage from 455 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: the Big Ten media Days that I wanted to hit 456 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: you on. There was a lot of conversation about geography 457 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: and the travel and as guys here you know, on 458 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: the NFL side of things, it feels a little bit 459 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: overplayed and overrated to me, and also Bucky myself, having 460 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: covered the West coast as scouts, I don't know that 461 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 2: people on the East coast know La and Pullman are 462 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: not neighbors. This has been This has been some teams 463 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: that are used to you know, it's not a take 464 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 2: a gas conference, is what I'm getting at. 465 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a it's an interesting point. I 466 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: think there's two things to that when it comes to 467 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: the geography. And talk to your good friend Joel Klatt 468 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: and Todd black Ledge at media Days and I said, 469 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: you've called games in the Midwest, like, what's the biggest difference, 470 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: And they said, it's the wind way more than the weather. 471 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: So I'll be curious, like at Iowa in November, what 472 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: that's like for some of these teams or some of 473 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: these Midwest games. I think overall, when I look at travel, 474 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: I think of UCLA traveling twenty two some thousand miles 475 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: this season, Like a game in Hawaii they go to 476 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: Baton Rouge and then Indiana it's like less than five thousand. 477 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know if it'll be a thing 478 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: or not. This is the thing that I do know, 479 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: and we all know because we live this in college, 480 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: is that it's different than the NFL, like news flash 481 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: to some people's you still do have to go to class, 482 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: Like everything just isn't online, Like you're still like as 483 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: all things have changed in college football, the development in 484 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: between your ears of eighteen to twenty three has not. 485 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: And there's still going to be a game where you 486 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: break up with your girlfriend the night before, or life happens, 487 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: or like you have to pull an all night or 488 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: or you're struggling off the field. Like I just think 489 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: the veteran element of teams is what will really shine through. 490 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: So that's why I go to Ohio State and all 491 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: those guys that spurred the NFL draft to come back. 492 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: Look at Utah, I think they have ten six year 493 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: players right eighteen starters returning like I think player so 494 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: he's but overall, like, I just think that's going to 495 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: be the thing that carries guys through because they'll still 496 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: be upsets. And I don't think the Marquee premium games 497 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: are going to be a letdown. Like when U dub 498 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: goes to a wide out at Penn State, it will 499 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: be epic. But what is it like when they play 500 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: a really tough Illinois team right or at SC plays 501 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: a Rutgers team at a Friday at eight o'clock at the 502 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: coliseum in front of who knows how many people will 503 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: be there? Like that that'll be the scary part, I 504 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: think for the new teams and really the old teams 505 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: of like getting lulled to sleep a little bit by 506 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: some of them, you know, the brands that may not 507 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: not be as big as a Michigan or a Michigan 508 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: State or Ohio State or what have you. 509 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: So in thinking about that, Yogi, the expansion, obviously of 510 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 3: the conferences has led to an expanded playoff. What's the 511 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: most exciting part of an expanded playoff? Feel something that 512 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: you're looking forward to see home games? 513 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: I thought the coolest thing that the PAC twelve did 514 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: back in the day with Larry Scout as commissioner. Was 515 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: championship game was a home site. I love that, you know, 516 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: going to Stanford and watching them win, going down Arizona State, 517 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: like wherever the game was. I think it's really cool. 518 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: I know, you know why the leagues got rid of 519 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: that is because of just the planning and all the 520 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: cost around planning a championship type of game and a 521 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: home in a home stadium in short notice. But I 522 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: think this will be the coolest thing. Like, can you 523 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: imagine Happy Valley in like a wildcard college football playoff game? 524 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it'll just be insane or notreed, what's that 525 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: going to be like if they're hosting a playoff game. 526 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: I think that'll be the coolest thing. And then I 527 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: think just the health of the sport. I've said it 528 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: for years that I thought the fourteen playoffs and a 529 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: Power five league at the time was the worst thing 530 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: that could have happened in the sport. And it was, 531 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 1: especially when you look at the inequities of eight conference 532 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: games in the SEC with a nothing game in a 533 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: week eleven, nine conference games and rivalry games a week 534 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: eleven out West or what have you? And I'm glad 535 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: that at least it's expanded. I still think there should 536 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: be equity around the schedule. Hopefully that comes to be 537 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: over the course the next couple years, especially if people 538 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: want more and more TV money, because that's really what's 539 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: driving a lot of the realignment conversation. But I think 540 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: it's the home games. Man. I can't wait to see 541 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: what Adtson would be like, or the Collie would be like. 542 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: If there was a wildcard game. I'd love to expand again, 543 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: you know, have the first two rounds the home games. 544 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: I know that'll impact the balls in a big way 545 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: in the quarterfinals, but I think it would just be awesome. 546 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm great for the game. 547 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: Do you know how juiced I'm going to be when 548 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: Notre Dame comes to app State in the first round 549 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: of the playoffs? Oh, the mountain is going to be 550 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: rock and boys, the mountain is going to be on 551 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: fire as the fighting Irish come out of the tunnel. 552 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: It's going to be fantastic. I cannot wait, Kid Brewers Stadium, Buck, 553 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: can you imagine we got Alabama who's coming off of 554 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: a three loss SEC season. I can't imagine that. 555 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: I can't imagine how it's going to be rocking and rolled, 556 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 3: and how excited everyone's going to be to come to 557 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: ab State in the first round of the playoffs. This 558 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: it should be a lot of fun. Can't wait for 559 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 3: the TV cameras to be there, all of it snow 560 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: in the background. 561 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah right, let's go, man. I look, one of the 562 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: things I wanted to ask you about as well as 563 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: we've talked about on here before, there's a lot of 564 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: doom and gloom with with ni l and and with 565 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 2: the portal, and a lot of people point out some 566 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: of the negatives they don't care about. They don't like it, 567 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: They want things to go back to the way they were. 568 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: We are selfish by nature, and as guys who are 569 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: evaluating players for the NFL, we've maintained that this is 570 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: going to make our life easier. The more good on 571 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: good that we see, the easier it is to translate 572 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: guys to the next level and try and project what 573 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: they're going to be. I'm curious how, in talking to 574 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 2: all those coaches you just got a chance to visit with, 575 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 2: have they been able to find the positives as their 576 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: journey and their schedules just got a whole lot harder. 577 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I think you know, it's easy 578 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: to complain to your point, but I think coaches, by 579 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: nature are going to find ways to compete to make 580 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: it work for them. I think what the challenge is 581 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: is the timing of it, and I hope that's what 582 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: changes with this new legislation. Is right now there's two 583 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: portal windows. That's where I think coaches are losing their mind. 584 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: Is like you just finished spring ball, but then you 585 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: could lose half your roster. Think about that for a second. 586 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: I think at Utah State, I mean they had to 587 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: just fire their coach a couple of weeks ago. I'm 588 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: calling their game against sc Week two, and they just 589 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: saw one of their better players just leave for better pastures. 590 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: Because of the rule of ever coach gets fired or 591 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: there's a change, I think it's thirty days where you 592 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: can leave. So I think some of the chaos within 593 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: that is has been a dramatic challenge to coaching staffs. 594 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: But also I think it's allowed them to watch teams 595 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: become even more mature, Like look at Ohio State. I mean, 596 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: this thing is loaded man in a beautiful way, and 597 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: they didn't go crazy in the portal but look who 598 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: they added in the portal, right, you look at the 599 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: safety position and running back position. I mean it's just bonkers. 600 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that'll be really fun. I think, 601 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think I net out probably in two 602 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 1: different lanes on this of one. This is the greatest 603 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: sport in our eyes on planet Earth. Right, It's the 604 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: ultimate team game. And now we're seeing teams just have 605 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: dramatic star power. So what is that going to do 606 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: to North Carolina? What is that going to be cow? 607 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: What is that going to do to you know, some 608 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: of these teams that maybe aren't at that level. Like 609 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: I'm curious. I'm curious if they win or lose, Like, 610 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm curious what that would be like, Like, I still 611 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: think that the scheming in this game still matters at 612 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: the end of the day. So I'll be curious. Or 613 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: does it just dramatically separate, right and in five years 614 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: or whatever the media writes, and like, is it just 615 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: the upper echelon of these leagues that are the only 616 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: ones having great success in the playoff, the only ones 617 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: thravting everybody else's getting the windfall of cash? Is there 618 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: another change? I don't think that's great for the game. 619 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: I really don't. And I think even my college roommate 620 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: was Larry Fitzgerald, Like, in this era, does he still 621 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: go to Pitt? Does he stay at Pit after a 622 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: freshman year? I'll go a step further. My biggest worry 623 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: about the whole thing is guys like Jordan Addison, who 624 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: wonted to blatant to cough to Pit went to SC. Now, 625 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm a pick guy. You guys know that love that place, 626 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: played there. What does the fan base think about Jordan 627 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: Adison or the alumni based think about Jordan Edison? Yeah, 628 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: probably not incredibly well SC. He had a really good season. 629 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: He was draft in the first round, but he didn't 630 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: win the blatant cough. He's not in your first sentence 631 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: of best USC receivers since you know, like, so, where's 632 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: his home when his career ends? I worry about that 633 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: for players of college is still a place that could 634 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: help you a stay Carolina Pit Like, it's still a 635 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: community that can show up for you when you need 636 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: a job, or you need support, or you're launching a 637 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: new show or whatever it may be. So I get 638 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: a little worried about that. Uh, And I think the 639 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: last thing for coaches. I think the coaches I've talked to, 640 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't think they struggle with these guys, but I 641 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: think they really have to compete to fall in love 642 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: with their team and really get to know guys because 643 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: you know that guy can dip at any point. And 644 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: I think it's different than it was five years ago. 645 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: And I see like Dan Lanning, he's had the team 646 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: at his house like over twenty times since January when 647 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: in August, right, like kicking this thing out. 648 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: Don't bury the lead here. 649 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: He's got a big back He's got a big backyard. 650 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: But like the point is, like you've got to curate fellowship, 651 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: like you have to. Like I've talked to more head 652 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: coaches around like what community events they're doing than scheme 653 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: ten x ten x, because you just have to do it. 654 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: And I commend them for doing it versus just looking 655 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: at as a transaction show for camp and just plug 656 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: and play and away we go. 657 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: I like to go to Lincoln Riley tas Buck. By 658 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: the way, if you've seen that one, I'd like to 659 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: go play for a little bit. I have seen it. 660 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 3: And actually that last little comment and conversation that Yogi 661 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 3: brought up kind of brought me to something because I 662 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: think you have a unique perspective. You watch Pete Carroll 663 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: kind of build that thing up to rockstar status at SC, 664 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: and I want to tap into the fact that, like 665 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 3: as an older coach, if Pete Carroll had to come 666 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: back today, would he be able to be as successful 667 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: in the midst of the portal in niel in those things. 668 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: Could his style of coaching work in today's game? 669 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: Oh, he ain't kill it, He'd absolutely kill it. I 670 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: think One, he's got a positive nature to him, as 671 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: you guys know as well as anybody. Two, I think 672 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: players just want to see and feel opportunity. He was 673 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: always about that. Three. He love the word competing, right, 674 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: He loved competitive moments like he would want to have. 675 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean we kind of had that. We five running 676 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: backs on the cover of Sports Illustrated in like oh 677 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: eight five Like that doesn't even exist in this era. 678 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: But he sold them all on you come here, you 679 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: can have a chance to be the guy, and if 680 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: you're the best among this group, you probably win the heights. 681 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: You're going to be a first rump pick. So I 682 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: think he would thrive. I think he'd have to, you know, 683 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: because the NFL. He'd have to just have people around 684 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: him to navigate the quote unquote salary cap because I 685 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: think that part just aggravates. I think coaches they're like, 686 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: man like, they're given all these kids all these things 687 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: that are great in terms of money and resources, but 688 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: are we taking care of him on the back end, 689 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: like what is the holistic environment like? So I think 690 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: that would probably be something that he'd have to navigate. 691 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: I think the parenting thing would be intriguing. I'd love 692 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: to sit down on one of those recruiting conversations because 693 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: you guys know what as well as I. But oftentimes 694 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: parents come in and it's not just hey can you 695 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: pay my child one hundred grand or five hundred grand, 696 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: but it's hey, can I also have a room in 697 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: that skyrot and like that amazing complex? And you also 698 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: get my cousin into law school like and some places 699 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: are doing it. So I think he would probably be 700 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: annoyed for his first year and then just cut through 701 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: the bs and be like, all right, this is what 702 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: we're doing. You want to come ball out in LA, 703 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: let's go do it. And that's where I think USC 704 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: is going to get to. I think this is a 705 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: foundational year for them with Lincoln Riley new staff, dramatic 706 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: turnover there, recruiting high school better. I like. I like 707 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: the foundation that they have now versus the first two 708 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: years was kind of survive, get good fast. They got 709 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: really good, really fast, and that's kind of hurt them 710 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: at least from a perception standpoint, which I think is ridiculous. Like, 711 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: let this team go play this year because they can't 712 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: go beat LSU. I can't wait. I don't know if 713 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: you guys are going to that one, but in Vegas 714 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: on a Sunday, Miller Moss, he's got a score, he's 715 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna throw five touchdowns. Like what happens after that, 716 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 717 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: We'll see. Yeah, I'm looking forward to, man, I'm so 718 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,239 Speaker 2: fired up for the college football season to get here. 719 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: I'm fired up for all that you've got going on, Yogs. 720 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: It's uh, it's always a blast when we get a 721 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: chance to catch up. And I hope we get a 722 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: chance to see each other run into each other on 723 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: the road this year. And I also, you know, just 724 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: real quick before we let you go, can we can 725 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: we get a quick roster preview of our flag squad 726 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: of what we're looking like this year. I mean, what 727 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: are we working with? 728 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: You're doing? It's a big year for our flag team. 729 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: Last year we were playing in an eight nine year 730 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: old league about eight year olds? 731 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: Do you play against? Do you play against? 732 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: No? He plays down in the in the beach Cities. 733 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like he's playing in all these 734 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: different leagues and we're. 735 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: Up here in the He's like the Nick Saban of 736 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: of you know, eight to ten year old flag football coaches. 737 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: I will say that he's running slow, mesh, it was 738 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: eight year olds. 739 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: My wife has clowned me so hard because I'd sit 740 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: at this desk and do hours of phone calls with 741 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: Bruce talking about practice plans, scheme. She's like, what are 742 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: you doing? 743 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: Like I got a whole playbook. 744 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: We're studying film. But I will say that I had 745 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: such a greater appreciation for play callers. So I was 746 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: a head coach an I was calling it guys. I 747 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 1: didn't go to see you to stay connected to the guys. Uh, 748 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: but it was it was a blast. 749 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: Man. 750 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: I've never had more fun. And I walked into youth 751 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: sports being the I'll never coach my kid guy like 752 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: I'll watch somebody else do it. And then after a 753 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: couple of years, I was like, nah, I'm must coach everything, 754 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: like everything out of the time. So yeah, we got 755 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 1: a shot this year. I think our summers have been 756 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: full of summer camps and pools and probably a couple 757 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: too many popsicles, So I'm not sure if we've really 758 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: gotten after it. But our team will play everybody. You 759 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: play every position. It's a holistic environment. And uh it's 760 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: late in the season. Look out, we'll be dating. 761 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: I like to yoga yoga. 762 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: I liked that. 763 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 3: So Bruce and I had this conversation because I coached 764 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: Flag for a long time and we won the City 765 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: of Times, and I told him that I was taping 766 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: opponents games and He's like, what are you doing? 767 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: I was like, how you do anything? So how you 768 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: do everything? 769 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: I'm trying to win like I'm trying to win, like 770 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 3: I'm preparing. So when we go to practice, I can 771 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 3: tell them here are the three things that we got 772 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: to stop, Like we got to stop these guys. 773 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: This is what they run. Go ahead, just tell so 774 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: yog get the champions of what we're down with here. 775 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: Don't turn into this guy. So go ahead, so yo 776 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: get the championship game. We were playing a team and 777 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: they had this kid who had these pink shoes and 778 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: I scattered him out, and so, uh we we did 779 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: a thing where we were just gonna play like like 780 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,959 Speaker 2: like Marco Polo. So every time the kid ran the hoodle, 781 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: everyone had to point out where he was here he is, 782 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: where's Waldo? And so we pointed him out every time, 783 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: and we're to the wall and we're getting them. Second quarter, 784 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: the kid just breaks down crying. The kid breaks down, Hey, hey, 785 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: look where's Waldo? Walter right, wald left, And he broke down. 786 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: And he crumbled, and. 787 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: So I know you loved him up afterwards. 788 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 3: Hey hey, after the game, you go across. Mac Brown 789 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 3: taught me, hey hey look man, great player. Love what 790 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: you were doing. It just wasn't your day, but we 791 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 3: look forward to watching you. YadA YadA. 792 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: Hey guys, I mean, what are you doing here? We're 793 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: doing I don't think we did that. 794 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: I mean I would stay after our game to scout 795 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: the next opponent. As a coordinator. He was amazing. James 796 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 1: sich around, a huge fan, big shot of trying to 797 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: get him come back here too. I got to throw 798 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: a little extra in the contract we can get him. 799 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: But I'll say this, I really believe two things. One is, 800 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: I've seen the worst in coaches in Flag, the absolute 801 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 1: worst I played the NFL. You're in La in Venice, 802 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: in this community up here, and I've seen some really 803 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: inappropriate things with coaches in terms of number one, not 804 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: playing everybody. I mean, you're eight, nine, ten years old, 805 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: everybody in the game number one. Number two, the vitriol 806 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: I think from parent to parent is inappropriate. I think 807 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: number three, the aggressive nature I think from sometimes coaches 808 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: to player is over the top. You know. I mean 809 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: you got to master like the call sheet in front 810 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 1: of your mouth and like just cursing in your own mind, 811 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: like you can't say it out loud like that is 812 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: a skill set. But I mean it's just sad. And 813 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: then I think the other thing is helmets, like they 814 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: need to be mandatory. Our team was the only team 815 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: in NFL Flag that rocked them, and I think it 816 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: just it needs to be a mandatory thing. That's why 817 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm actually going to call it on your network, 818 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: NFL network. I'm calling the Nike Kickoff Classic Girls Flag Football. 819 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: August can't wait, Andrews Ciliano and I get fired up 820 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: to get up the Nike's campus and get after it. 821 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: That is fantastic. 822 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 3: This should be mandatory and flat because the game is 823 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,959 Speaker 3: a lot faster and it's far more physical than people 824 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 3: would think when you talk about flag there's a lot 825 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 3: of inadvertent contact that takes place. 826 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: You want to protect the player, So that makes sense. 827 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: There you go. Hey, at the end of the day, 828 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 2: Buck's a champion. You know what I mean, He's a champ. 829 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: Had We had a kid on my high school team 830 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: named Bobby Simpson and when we played one team it 831 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: was Marion Catholic. And every time we broke the huddle, 832 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: because every now and then we put him at tight end, 833 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: we'd run a little tight end reverse with him. So 834 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: every time we broke the huddle, his name was Bobby Simpson. There, Bart, 835 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 2: Bart Bart, And they're pointing out like he was Bart 836 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 2: Simpson every time, And I was like, okay, we can 837 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: do that with the seventeen year old high school kid. 838 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 2: But just you that down a little younger. Where's Waldo? 839 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: Where's Waldo? We got to know where he's at. 840 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: You gotta know whether person you got your person. 841 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: Hill Okay, so I'm going to put this out on 842 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: your show because you guys have a huge relationenership. But 843 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: I was literally talking because of the Olympics, right Who 844 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: isn't watching the Olympics right now? We know it's coming 845 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: down the pipe here in LA in twenty twenty eight 846 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: flag football. So I'm putting out there. I want a 847 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: couple things, guys. I either want to be on the 848 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: staff of the US team. Okay, broadcast it with you too, 849 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 1: that'd be a blast. But also, like my wife's Korean, 850 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll be the head coach in Korean, like 851 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm Jewish, Like I go be the head coach of 852 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: the Israeli national team. 853 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 3: I don't want to, so just PSA. 854 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: I want to be a head coach. I want to 855 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: be a you know, part of a staff or be 856 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: a part of flag football in LA twenty twenty. I 857 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: hope you guys, I want. 858 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 2: I want you and Julian Edelman locking arms. Let's go 859 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 2: to the this Israeli team and then just getting after it. 860 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: That's what I That's what I want. I can't wait 861 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: to see you. I can't wait to see you. The 862 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 2: opening ceremony's waving a little flag. 863 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: I sell my son almost Come, dude, you could be 864 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: like a stud for the Korean national group. 865 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 2: Like the Korean Korean national team has been throwing back 866 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: shoulders for six straight years to get ready for this moment, 867 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 2: and Yog's got him ready to rock and roll. That's 868 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 2: what I'm That's what I'm thinking, yolks. 869 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: I love it. But we've gotten off the rails. Hey, 870 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: you get back on the rails. Whyoption dot Com? Whatever 871 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: you need, guys, got football, move the sticks. 872 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 2: Here we go. No, that's what we do. We get 873 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 2: off the reels when we start. Once we start telling 874 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 2: Bucki's flag football stories. It's all that's fantastic, all right, Yas, 875 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: you are the best, buddy. Look forward to watching you 876 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 2: this fall Big ten network again, Why Option check that 877 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: out as well. He is the best. He's Yogi Roth 878 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 2: and Yogs will catch up with you soon down the road. 879 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,479 Speaker 2: Appreciate you, buddy. 880 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: Guys, Books and hats are on the way. 881 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 2: Yes, Buck always great to catch up with, yolks. Uh. 882 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: Not only a lot of insight there with jess Man, 883 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 2: he's just one of the best dudes. 884 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the best dudes. He has a ton 885 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 3: of experience he's been around great people, and what he 886 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 3: was able to do for the PAC twelve, UH Pack 887 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 3: twelve and the PAC twelve network for so many years 888 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: to transition to the Big Ten. This dude knows all 889 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 3: things football, and so I'm excited. I'm excited about what 890 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 3: he doing for their network, Big ten Network, but also 891 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 3: what he's decided to do on his own venture with 892 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 3: Option should be an exciting read for everyone who really 893 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 3: loves West Coast football. 894 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 2: I hope you guys enjoyed that conversation with yolks and 895 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: and we will see you again next time right here 896 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 2: on Mobistics