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Speaker 1: guys more time off in the sense of you don't

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00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: need to be in Kansas City, but you guys are

427
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: going to be working and you're all with Patrick Mahomes,

428
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: who is your best player leading the operation. Wasn't that

429
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: the Patriots' greatest advantage over the years, All the players

430
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: always said it is if Belichick can get on Tom,

431
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 1: and Tom's standers on the practice field and in the

432
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 1: meeting room are as high as Bills and any coach,

433
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: I better, you know, stay locked and loaded. I better

434
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: bring it on a daily basis. One of the Patriots'

435
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: biggest advantages, you could argue the biggest was the culture

436
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: set not by Bill, but by Tom, who followed that lead,

437
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: because when your best players don't follow that lead, it's

438
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: when you get proverbs. And clearly the chiefs, I just

439
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: think that as long as this is their wiring and

440
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: their mindset, they're just going to be the pick every

441
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: single year. I mean, they really are. And if I'm

442
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: a Kansas City fan, our chance is moving forward and

443
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: it's hard. You can't you can't fake this shit, you

444
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: can't created out of thin air. Either got it, and

445
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: let's face it, they got it at the highest of

446
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: high levels with guys. I mean, you're talking about a

447
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna go down. He's still got a long

448
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: ways to go, but he already is one of the

449
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen. And Travis Kelsey's there too.

450
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna go down more and likely is the most

451
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: productive tight end of all time. Those guys are leading

452
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: the charge in early April in Texas. Pretty impressive, man,

453
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just what a high level operation they have.

454
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: And never forget man, people make this thing go round.

455
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: You can't set a culture without your top people living

456
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: by it. Mahomes and Kelsey live by it clearly. One story.

457
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: This is never gonna die and it will not officially

458
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: die till he misses the entire season is Tom? And

459
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: people is like, is he actually retired? Will we come

460
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: back to the Dolphins? Is Tom? Tom? Tom? Tom? I

461
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 1: got no clue, You got no clue. Until he actually

462
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: misses the fall, we will know whether he's retired or not.

463
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: But until the football season, talking about Tom Brady as

464
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: potentially coming back is going to be something that happens.

465
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: So I don't know. My guess is he stays retired.

466
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: But if you told me he comes back, I believe you.

467
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: But I watched this clip and that kind of went

468
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: viral of like, oh, Tom is not actually saying he's retired,

469
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: and I just watched him talk and I started thinking about,

470
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: this is a guy that potentially, I mean, some people

471
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: don't think he'll ever call games. I would imagine, you know,

472
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: for twenty five million dollars a year. His egos pretty big.

473
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: It'll help him sell his other businesses that he will

474
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: at least try out, you know, the Fox Booth and

475
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: be their lead analyst in a year. But I watched

476
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: him talk at this seminar and it was basically just

477
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: a clip of him talking about the Dolphins. But it

478
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: was just so corporate. And I think one thing that

479
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: made Tom just whenever I would talk to people, and

480
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, when I was at Frisone State, we have

481
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that either played there or worked

482
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: on the staff, you know, as as an assistant coach,

483
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: as a strength coach, and you would hear these stories

484
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: of God, Tom's a badad. Tom, It's just cool man, Tom.

485
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 1: Just Tom's just one of the dudes. And the reason

486
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: he's considered, I think, one of the greatest teammates of

487
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: all time and arguably the greatest teammate of all time

488
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: because he was great at it. It was natural to

489
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: him being one of the guys resonating with people. It clearly,

490
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: probably became hard the last couple of years when he's

491
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: forty four, forty five years old, but it was one

492
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: hundred percent, unequivocally one of the things Tom Brady always

493
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: hung his hat on, not on Sunday, was what he

494
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: did Monday through Saturday with his teammates, resonating with them,

495
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: getting along with them, going above and beyond for them.

496
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: He was natural at it. And the only way you

497
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: could do that is kind of be an authentic good guy,

498
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: and you just that's relatable. And one thing when you

499
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: watch Peyton and Eli on television, they just seemed very

500
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: comfortable in their own skin. They honestly feel pretty natural.

501
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: I actually think Peyton's become a little less corporate in

502
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: that in the Manning Cast, and it's just like, this

503
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: is a great watch. I feel like I'm watching this

504
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 1: Mega cast or Manning Cast or whatever they call it

505
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: with two guys who are clearly, you know, obviously Peyton's

506
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. Eli had

507
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: two of the great playoff runs of all time. He'll

508
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: probably eventually be in the Hall of Fame. That's up

509
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: for debate. But regardless, Eli another great guy, just feels

510
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: like I could just hang with these two guys, man,

511
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: I guess drinks some beers, played nine holes with them,

512
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: talk some ball like they just they seem relatable. Tom

513
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: clearly has that. Yet whenever I watch him talk, whether

514
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: it's in an interview, whether it's I remember we came

515
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: on with Colin, whether it's at this thing, he feels

516
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: very corporate. He feels kind of like, you know, he's

517
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: been caught up in the machine, which is understandable. I

518
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: don't think he can be good as a broadcaster if

519
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: that's what he comes off as, not the guy that

520
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: related with all of this teammates and got along with

521
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: everyone for twenty plus years. But this corporate creation and

522
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 1: this corporate machine that is, you know, spit out all

523
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: this money. Like Tiger Wood's a good example. For a

524
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: long period of time, Tiger was kind of fake, right,

525
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: Everything that you saw in these commercials was turned out

526
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: to be kind of inauthentic. And one thing I think

527
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: Tiger in his latter years, the last four or five years,

528
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: he's had some you know, battle through injuries, He's become

529
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: much more of a relatable person. He can just when

530
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: he talks, whether it's to the media, around the guys.

531
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: It's like, God, Tiger's just seems more normal. And I

532
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: do wonder if Tom Brady. He's the most famous NFL

533
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: player in the history of the league, you know, besides

534
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: like Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Lebron James, it's a short list.

535
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: He's one of the most famous athletes of my entire life.

536
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: It's hard to be normal, and somehow Peyton and Eli

537
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 1: can still kind of balance that pretty well, especially when

538
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: the camera's on. I do wonder if Tom's going to

539
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: be able to do that, because I think the number

540
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: one thing we look for as consumers in twenty twenty three,

541
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: like part of the reason newspapers die and a lot

542
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: of radio shows are dying. It just feel feels very fake.

543
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: It's very inauthentic. Why podcasts, you know, crushing, It's why

544
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: certain people in the business of talking are crushing and

545
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: others are not. It's like, can you just act normal?

546
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: Can you be yourself? Because you can do that now

547
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: and make a lot of money and have an enormous audience,

548
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: that's what people want. I don't know. I would probably

549
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: bet against it. I think it'll be very, very difficult

550
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: for Tom because when you watched him on Tom vers

551
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: Time or not Tom Verse Time, but whatever. The ESPN

552
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: Plus show was on all their Super Bowls is like

553
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: a six part documentary and he could swear. It was like, God,

554
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: this is the Tom that I want to get to know.

555
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: I always find it funny sometimes, and I try to

556
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: work on it because I know some of you guys listen,

557
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: like with your kids in the car and listen, you

558
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: got a five or six year old, you know you

559
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: don't want me drop an F bomb after f bomb,

560
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: And if it's a fifteen year old, like, I'm sorry

561
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: that kid's cussing when you're not around. But I try

562
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: to be cognizant, but sometimes like people are, Like someone

563
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: sent me a DM recently that was like middle cough.

564
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: My dad always said, when you swear, you sound dumber.

565
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: It's like and he wasn't talking about me, just in general.

566
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: And I've heard that saying before too, and I think

567
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: that's a very old school saying, Like I just talk

568
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: like I talk. You know, I didn't go to Harvard.

569
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: My vocabulary is not something of some cow UCLA grad.

570
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: I just speak as I speak, And I don't think

571
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know, I don't try. I'm more conscious now,

572
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: conscious conscientious of swearing consistently, but I also like I

573
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: swear in real life, so do many of you. Like

574
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be overkilled, but sometimes the words

575
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: are gonna come out. And if you see your seven

576
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: year old son, I'm like, this is the show's not

577
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: really for seven year olds right now. I want you

578
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: to listen. And if the only time you can listen

579
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: is in your car when you're picking up your kids,

580
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: I get it. But there's not a little kid show.

581
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: There's a grown up show. We talk about grown up

582
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: stuff also the NFL, But like I find that real

583
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: just be yourself and I'm just being myself. Sometimes I

584
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: swear right Tom swears, and it's very I found it.

585
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: Like the best Tom Brady was that ESPN Pluck Show

586
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: when he just let it rip the buzz around the draft.

587
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: There was a story I think I saw it on

588
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: Wednesday of Brady Quinn God Brad talk about a good

589
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: looking dude, I mean as someone that doesn't have hair.

590
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: I was like, Brady just got good hair, Uh, good

591
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: jaw line, He's looks the part man. He said something

592
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: on a podcast yesterday about c J. Stroud and it

593
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: was basically that c J. Stroud had committed did to

594
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: go to the Manning Academy, the camp right where the

595
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: college quarterbacks go and work as counselors for Peyton and

596
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: Eli and just like a lot of quarterbacks. Do you

597
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: remember famously Johnny Manzel went there and like got really

598
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: drunk and Archie kicked him out and it was a

599
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: big story, and he committed and then he didn't show

600
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: up and he ghosted them and said that that was

601
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: one of the reasons because supposedly CJ's fallen in the draft,

602
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: like he's one of those guys that's slipping. And then

603
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: Ryan Clark, you know, snapped back about like your Bemoana,

604
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: the guy's character who made the Mannings the bar. You

605
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: got to listen to them, and it just it's your

606
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: classic this time of year when it comes to the

607
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, about whether it's former players or you know,

608
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: your big jay journalists just screaming at each other over

609
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: a report about a player and then people thinking it's unfair.

610
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: And what I often found funny when I was in

611
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: the NFL and definitely now, is that whether this stuff's

612
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: true or not, it does not affect the teams at all.

613
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: They all know, like, there are some things that are

614
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: objectively facts, right, Jalen Carter was in another car racing

615
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: the car where two people died. Now that happened. Now,

616
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: whether it's his fault or not, obviously, all that stuff

617
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: is subjective and up for debate. Stetsan Bennett was arrested.

618
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: We all saw the video. That is objective. It cannot

619
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: be argued that happened. Then there are stories like you know,

620
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: as C. J. Stroud, is he can you depend on him?

621
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: Is he consistently how would you put Is he punctual? Right?

622
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: If he says he's going to be somewhere, is he

623
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna be there? And I remember that I learned in

624
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: the NFL that academics like no one cared what a

625
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver's grades were, or a defensive lineman's grades were,

626
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: or a right tackles grades were, because ultimately doesn't matter,

627
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: especially if you told me listen, this guy barely passes classes,

628
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: but he's very smart football player. He learns football. Well,

629
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: that's all that matters. The NFL is in the football business,

630
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: not in We're not building the bridge, right, We're not

631
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: trying to negotiate an acquisition of a bank. Can the

632
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: guy run a route over the middle and on a

633
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: hot route? Does he no where to go? And can

634
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: he catch the football? And is he tough after the catch?

635
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: And is he fast? Like? Can the guy bend the edge?

636
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: Can the guy hold the point? Can the guy run

637
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: the zone running scheme? But when it comes to quarterbacks,

638
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: one thing that I was always taught and I think

639
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: most scouts kind of abide by this rule is like

640
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: everything matters, so their GPA, Like they don't need to

641
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: be a four point zero student. But do they take

642
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: school seriously? Because usually they take everything seriously? Right, They

643
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: take school seriously, They take weight rooms seriously, if they

644
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: if they you know, play golf, they take golf very seriously.

645
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: Their football they take very seriously. Everything they do in

646
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: their life is held to a high standard. They don't

647
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: cut corners. Now, I don't know anything about CJ. Struck.

648
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is true or not. And ultimately

649
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: what I would tell you is, in the big picture,

650
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of irrelevant whether Ryan Clark and Brady Quinn

651
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: are arguing back and forth over this, because the teams

652
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: already know that they already have this information. You don't

653
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: slide in the draft unless like the Lara Mutunzel thing

654
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: comes out on Draft night. But based on these media reports, right,

655
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: that's their own narratives that they get to create. The

656
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: teams have their boards, which are obviously not public. Now

657
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm not saying where they put these guys is right

658
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: or wrong, but they have this information. They have more

659
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: information than literally everybody on the outside, and they've gotten

660
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: that information from people in the program, people around the program.

661
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: They're teammates, guys on their given team about that played

662
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: with those guys, people that know them, they're high school coach,

663
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: their college counselor they accumulate all that information and they

664
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: figure it out from there. Now I think c J.

665
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: Stroud is going to be a fascinating guy because when

666
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: the Panthers originally traded up, everyone thought c J. Stroud

667
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: was gonna be the number one overall pick. He became

668
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: in the betting markets the guy that everyone thought was

669
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: gonna take him. And now it feels like that's over.

670
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: Bryce Young's going number one and people are like, c J.

671
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: Stroud even gonna be the second quarterback, and let's just

672
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: let's just do a hypothetical. C J. Stroud goes tenth.

673
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: I'm just all just picking a number. Obviously the Eagles

674
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: are picking there, but you know what I mean, like

675
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: they make it whatever. He just goes tenth. A lot

676
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: of people will say that c. J. Stroud slid in

677
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: the draft, and Mike counter would be did he or

678
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: did the media overvalue hell? Based on the Georgia game.

679
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: I thought he's worthy of a top ten pick. But

680
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you it doesn't mean teams in the

681
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: NFL think that and the information they have. We all

682
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: have information. When a guy gets arrested, we all have information.

683
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: And when remember when Jameis Winston got suspended. There are

684
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: certain stuff there's just public information. The majority of stuff

685
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: in a character right up and I did it full

686
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: time for a year when I did the West Coast

687
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: is not public information because it's stuff that position coach,

688
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: a director of football operations, a head coach, a counselor

689
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: tells you I wouldn't say in secret, but it's just

690
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: not something that they would just say in an interview.

691
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: Because not everything is flattering, and some guys are high

692
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: character stuff and still have some red flags in their background.

693
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: So this notion about these players and these people arguing,

694
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: and it's I get where if you're in first take

695
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: you need to scream about this. It doesn't ultimately matter.

696
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't actually influence anything. Now, when a story comes out,

697
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: like Jalen Carter at the Combine that he was involved

698
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: in the in the Carch race or whatever, that is

699
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: information that we all learn in real time. The teams

700
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: didn't know about it. You and I didn't know about it.

701
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: But a lot of this information, like if that Manning

702
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: story does have validity behind it, I'm sure that's been

703
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: a rumor about c J. Stroud, I don't know since

704
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: last summer in NFL circles. And ultimately it's on you

705
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: to de side as the general manager if it's a

706
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: big deal or if it's not, because if he's a

707
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: good enough player and you think he can, you know,

708
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: be a top ten quarterback in the league, doesn't matter,

709
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: doesn't matter at all, Right, And I think that is

710
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: this time of year, like these stories that are happening

711
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: left and right, I don't think are having any influence

712
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: on you know, on the NFL draft boards. One thing

713
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: that I did find fascinating I saw Pete Carroll gave

714
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: a quote, you know, when I was in the NFL,

715
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: you always ask the question, how do you think this

716
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: guy will handle money? How do you think this guy

717
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: will handle success? And Pete was like, you know, the

718
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: one thing crazy now is some of these guys are

719
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: making a million bucks, right. Some of these guys are

720
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: making seven hundred grand, so relative, if you're like a

721
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: top fifteen pick, you're going to make more than that.

722
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: But I do get to see you, like, can you

723
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: imagine as a scout going into a school and talking

724
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: to a coach and them going, well, this guy was

725
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: one of our hardest workers and one of our best players,

726
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: And I thought this guy was going to be a

727
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: top five pick. And then NIL started and he got

728
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty grand and his work ethic diminished.

729
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: That would be incredible information to have as a scout

730
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: because I would tell my general manager, tell my head coach,

731
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: this is something that's pretty concerning, because if this guy's

732
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: work ethic dipped with seven hundred and fifty grand, what's

733
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: going to happen when we give him five million dollars? Right?

734
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: And vice versa. When you go into a school and

735
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: you go, what was it like when he signed his

736
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: big nil deal? It's like, you know, he was still

737
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: the first guy into every single workout. He was still

738
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: the last guy on the practice field. We didn't see

739
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: one issue. And we also heard that of that million

740
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: dollar contract, he gave one hundred and fifty thousand dollars

741
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: of its charity. Like shit, I'm all over this cat.

742
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be I would imagine the NIL money

743
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: with some of these guys is a pretty big talking

744
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: point in some of these draft meetings because forever it

745
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: was like, how's this guy gonna handle money? Well beside

746
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: the brown bags of forty k that he got, you know,

747
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: under his dorm bed. And I promise you that stuff

748
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: was never really talked about. Now that Nil's public, like

749
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: you're you would ask that question, what was it? Like, right,

750
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: he's got he's got a Mercedes contract and he's got

751
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: a deal with Nike. You know, he's making one point

752
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: three million dollars. Right, You're gonna know Drake May and

753
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams like they're wiring they've been making huge cash

754
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: now for a couple of years, that that that's an

755
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: incredible advantage to have and understanding it's gonna it's gonna

756
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: work against guys gonna work for guys. I'm really really

757
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: fascinated by, uh, by the NFL or by the nil

758
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: impact on the draft. I'm also fascinated by the quarterbacks.

759
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: Some people think Will Levis might be the second quarterback

760
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: off the board. You know, could the Indianapolis Colts take

761
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: Anthony Rigson with a fourth pick and just try to

762
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: hit a home run kind of like Shane did with

763
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts a couple of years ago, and knowing how

764
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: to use a running quarterback who needs some refinement. That

765
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: that's always because, let's face it, this draft in terms

766
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: of star power, in terms of star power, kind of

767
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: lacks it. And part of star power is the quarterbacks.

768
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: You know that that to uh, Joe Burrow draft was

769
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: just poof that that that popped, Uh, the Trey Lance,

770
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Mac Jones justin fields like I

771
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: felt like those guys bigger names than this group. But

772
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are always going to carry any draft because

773
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: we do lack a little firepower with the other positions.

774
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: But are all four quarterbacks going to go in the

775
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: top ten? Is one of these quarterbacks going to be

776
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: there in the teams I can't pretend to know or

777
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: have a great feel for it. Beside obviously a couple

778
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks for sure going to go in the top ten,

779
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: but are all four because at one point in time

780
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: it is like, could four quarterbacks go one, two, three, four?

781
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: That's never happened in the history of the league. And

782
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: I saw Adam Schefter say the other day that is

783
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: definitely not happening here. So yeah, the draft is always

784
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: a fun time when it comes to the quarterback. And

785
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: last but not least, the NFLPA came out to basically

786
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: report that majority of injuries happen on field turf. And

787
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: as someone that plays a lot of golf and gets

788
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: to know wherever I'm playing, you know, usually the superintendent,

789
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: who's the guy that kind of is in charge of

790
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: making sure the grass and the greens and just the

791
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: course is in really good shape. And where I went

792
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: to school at cal Poly, there was a major for that.

793
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: There was a major where guys basically went on to

794
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: run golf courses, big agg school. And it's a tough

795
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: it pays a lot. I mean, these guys are making

796
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: you know, one hundred and fifty and fifty depend on

797
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: the course you're at you you make bukuo bucks. Now

798
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: it's hard to work. You they're early, they're late, especially

799
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: if you're at a course it's either famous or host

800
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: big events. But the point is that grass is complicated

801
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: and since coming to Arizona, like for example, a golf course,

802
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: because of the climates, they have two separate grasses for

803
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: six months. Basically when the heat comes they have a

804
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: different grass than they have during the winter. And clearly

805
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: around the NFL, some teams play in better climates than others.

806
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: But it's always been argued that artificial turf, well, one

807
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: is cheaper once you install it right, doesn't need sun,

808
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be trimmed, it doesn't need maintenance, so on.

809
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 1: Just from an economic standpoint, it is anyone that's put

810
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: artificial turf in their backyard, in the front yard, in

811
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: a side yard, wherever, at an office, you just leave it,

812
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: it's great. But from a football standpoint, it clearly impacts

813
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, the most important people in the business,

814
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: the players, and anytime that you lose star players, because

815
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: you're just as likely to lose Nick Bosa or Odell

816
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: Beckham Junior or Tom Brady as you are some random

817
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: special team player. Now, the NFL is a partnership between

818
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: the players and then you know the teams, the league

819
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: and in the CBA. I've always argued that the players

820
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: argue about stuff that just doesn't really matter. Like they

821
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: were obsessed with getting days off in training camp. No

822
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: more double days. And I'm not saying that they should

823
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: not fight against like junction boy style training camp, but

824
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: you should be much more consumed with guaranteed money, you know,

825
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: practice field requirements, gain field requirements. But they were obsessed

826
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: with things the owners didn't give a shit about. Oh,

827
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: you want a second day after in training camp, take it.

828
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: You want two days after in the week during the season.

829
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: You're cool because they don't actually care. The only thing

830
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: they care about is dollars and cents. This would have

831
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: been a good example of something the player should have

832
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: fought for. Every single stadium that we play in, we

833
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: mandate that you have grass. They didn't do it, and

834
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: that's why in New York they have shitty turf. Right

835
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: Obviously the Super Bowl was terrible turf, people slipping all

836
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: over the place. Maybe it is grass and they painted

837
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: it whatever, but I think and I don't even think

838
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: it's that controversial. I'm a sucker for grass like I

839
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: like grass fields, but I also saw when the forty

840
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: nine ers moved into Santa Clara Levi Stadium, it was

841
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: hard for them to figure out the grass. It did

842
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: not it didn't hold at first. It's complicated. It's not

843
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: like you just put in grass and it's great, like

844
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: some grass is better than others, depending on whether you're

845
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: in New York or whether you're in Texas. It's not easy,

846
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: and it obviously costs the teams way more. But this

847
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: is a good example of something that d Smith and

848
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: the Players Union and their reps should have been fighting

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Speaker 1: four years ago, because this is obviously a hot topic

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00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: for a long time. It's not like it just came up.

851
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 1: But they're always obsessed with the wrong things like can

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00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: we get a second day off during the bye week

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00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: or whatever? You got a mandatory six days after in

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00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: the Bible? Who cares six days off for three days out?

855
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: Fight for more money, fight for the things that are tangible, right,

856
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: Because I got news for you, most teams, especially the

857
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: good ones, they're giving you days off no matter what.

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00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: You know. This would have been something that you know,

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00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: a good union representative would have fought for the last

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00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: CBA a couple of years ago, but they didn't. And

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00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: now this is an argument that goes back and forth

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00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: like this is collectively bargained, and this is something that

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00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: could have been collectively bargained, And this is something that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to keep bitching a moan with for

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Speaker 1: a while because for whatever reason, I don't quite understand it.

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Speaker 1: Because it's not that much money relative to the grand

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Speaker 1: scheme of things. Why I would risk having turfin if

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00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm an owner? Why would I be that cheap? Why

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Speaker 1: would I want to risk losing my star players on

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00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: a bad field. But the answer is, and they've shown

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00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: you consistently, they don't actually care. They just don't. They

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00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: would rather save a little money than lose a star player.

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00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: Some of these teams obviously not all of them, and

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00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: some of them have obviously majority of them have grass.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, that's something that easily could have

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00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: been collectively bargained a while ago, but just was not. Okay,

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00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: that'll do it. And you know what I never do

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00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: is thank my guy Holtse and James my audio and video.

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00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: That's just a bad teammate, you know, it's not Tom

880
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: Brady of me, but those guys crush it on a

881
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: daily basis. UH do a lot of things behind the

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00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: scenes that make this bad boy go. And UH shout

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Speaker 1: out to you guys for uh, for yeah, for coming, hanging, listening,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully everyone has a good weekend and talk to

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00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: you soon. See you guys Sunday Middlecoff mailbag at John

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00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: Middlecoff firing those d ms and uh, we'll have some content,

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Speaker 1: a lot of content next week for the draft. So

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Speaker 1: let's rock and roll baby. The volume