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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCray, and Newey Scrugs.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody is Friday. It's that time. It's time

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Speaker 1: to have some fun, laugh a little bit, dive into

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and all the things that are happening. Is

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Speaker 1: we get ready for the NFL Draft, which will take

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Speaker 1: place April twenty third, twenty four to twenty fifth. I

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Speaker 1: am Newe Scrugs, your co host here of the Players Lounge,

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Speaker 1: along with former Dallas Cowboys players Buried Church and Danny McCray. McCray,

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Speaker 1: how you doing. I'd noticed you have on a specific

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Speaker 1: T shirt Morey reason. Yes, yeah, man, I'm I'm doing

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Speaker 1: an excellent man. The All Decade team came out today

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Speaker 1: and we had two players on that list, and it

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Speaker 1: could have been three, but we'd get into that a

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Speaker 1: little bit later, because Patrick Peterson was definitely one of

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Speaker 1: the best point returns of twenty of a decade. That church,

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Speaker 1: how we do it today? Man? We do a church.

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Speaker 1: We're doing good, and then I got an empty household

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Speaker 1: right now. So it's real quiet and nice and calm

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Speaker 1: in here. So let's go to work, fellas, how do

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Speaker 1: you sleep in church with a newborn? I'm clipping terrible.

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Speaker 1: She's trying every hour and a half, every two hours.

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Speaker 1: But I'm trying to make it work, man, trying to

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Speaker 1: make it work. All right, fellas, Let's dive into a

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Speaker 1: topic that I think we've kind of forgotten about because

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Speaker 1: of everything with COVID nineteen shutting things down, but the

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Speaker 1: fact that the Cowboys are supposed to be able to

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Speaker 1: start that off season program a little bit earlier than

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Speaker 1: other teams because of having Mike McCarthy a new coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: and right now the facilities closed the Cowboys facility to

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Speaker 1: start all across the NFL. So you guys are former

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Speaker 1: players here, how much do you think this is a

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Speaker 1: setback for Mike McCarthy and also the players of not

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Speaker 1: being able to get this offseason program start. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a huge setback, especially for this offense and defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the balls. I mean, you're implementing a totally

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Speaker 1: got your quarterback there who's having contract negotiations, who knows

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Speaker 1: if he's going to show up or not, and you

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Speaker 1: need him to basically lead this offense which is going

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Speaker 1: to be a new offense, new terminology, all that stuff

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Speaker 1: that these players got to learn. And that's when you

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Speaker 1: go into OTAs and learn these type of things, so

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Speaker 1: when you get to the training camp, you can hit

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Speaker 1: that where they're gonna implement a new type of three

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Speaker 1: four types game in there as well or some elements

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Speaker 1: it it it'll hurt him a lot to not have

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Speaker 1: this time to start early for this new scheme. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel the same on both fronts. Uh. Like we

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Speaker 1: would have showed up to these OTAs without that, without

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, put input in the new

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Speaker 1: offense and having these young receivers and people who don't

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Speaker 1: know the offense and trying to learn it virtually, it's difficult.

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Speaker 1: And we went through this in twenty eleven when we

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Speaker 1: got Rob Ryan and we tried to input his thick

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Speaker 1: stayed there because you bring up a good point about

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Speaker 1: how you went through this in twenty eleven in a

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Speaker 1: similar situation. You look in the NFC East, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: that gives them an advantage. Yes, I would. I'll go ahead, Danny,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you one hundred percent there, Danny. I

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have done something that I absolutely love and they

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Speaker 1: I want to start with Kenneth Murray of Oklahoma. He's

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Speaker 1: I thought Jerry Jones asked him a really good question.

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Speaker 1: One of the things about Jerry Jones, in case Cowboy

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Speaker 1: fans don't know, Jerry struggled. You know, you think of

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Speaker 1: the setbacks are the controversy or the challenge that might

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Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't say it's more short setback. I

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Speaker 1: So um, you know for me, I learned, you know,

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Speaker 1: to what true gratitude is. They extremely engaged because of

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Speaker 1: I knew a little bit about Kenneth Murray's story, but

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Speaker 1: guys are former players here. When you hear a story

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Speaker 1: Like you said, his family adopted and on three children

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Speaker 1: with special needs. And I know how hard that is,

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Speaker 1: You won't see these guys like this again right now,

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Speaker 1: let's get into other people's business around the NFL. Late

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Speaker 1: last night, I look up and I see that the

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Speaker 1: Rams have traded away Brandon Cooks to Houston for the

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, what are the Texans doing? What

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Speaker 1: is Bill O'Brien at the head coach and general manager doing.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks last year spent a lot of time injured,

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Speaker 1: dealing with concussions, and you're gonna make a trade for

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get rid of Yandre Hopkins and bringing Brandon Fellas.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what are they doing in Houston? Tell your something?

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something I've missed. Uh So, Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't get to get a trade for

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Speaker 1: up last year from my fantasy team because he would

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Speaker 1: have erected. I don't know what they're doing down in Houston,

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Speaker 1: which is probably while I'm while I'm living up here

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Speaker 1: in Dallas. All right, I'm from the great city of Houston.

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Speaker 1: But I don't understand what they got going on. Why

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Speaker 1: would you get with the hot for Brandon Cooks who

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Speaker 1: was injured? He has a concussion history, he didn't produce

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Speaker 1: last year, and this this we don't even know he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to be on the field. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: make sense. And you give it up for a second.

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Speaker 1: What did we give up the hot for? It doesn't

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Speaker 1: make sense at all. I think this would be Bills

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Speaker 1: last year being the gem and possibly the head coach

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Speaker 1: if they don't win the Super Bowl. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: to agree with you one hundred percent the mat. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing over there in Houston,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, you get rid of DeAndre Hawkins, You're

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Speaker 1: leading receiver, your quarterbacks number one option, and you give

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Speaker 1: him up for it for David Johnson, And I think

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Speaker 1: what a second round. David Johnson did nothing last year

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Speaker 1: and then he was hurt all that, and then you

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Speaker 1: traded for who do you Crooks? Cooks? The guy is

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Speaker 1: a burner, he can get behind the secondary, but you

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Speaker 1: already gaffed that and Will Fuller. You need that guy

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Speaker 1: who's a who's a possession route running receiver next to him,

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Speaker 1: and you had that, You had the perfect specimen in

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, and you let him go and you brought

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Speaker 1: in Crooks, who's another burner. And we've seen what happens

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Speaker 1: with burners. Will Fuller been hurt pretty much his whole career.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Cooks has been battling concussions, concussions throughout his

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Speaker 1: whole career. I mean, I just don't see where it

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Speaker 1: adds up. And I think you're right, O'Brien. Be his

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Speaker 1: last year, if they don't win the Super Bowl, they

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Speaker 1: don't make a deep playoff run. I mean, I just

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Speaker 1: don't see. I just don't understand. I just don't understand

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Speaker 1: he blackmail with somebody older. I don't know something's going on.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. I know the city of Houston is

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Speaker 1: not happy with him. So let's spend this back to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The Rams, by the way, finished nine and

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Speaker 1: seven last year, and the Cowboys beat them up pretty

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Speaker 1: good at Jerry World. So trying to figure out where

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Speaker 1: the Rams are going. This kind of comes back into

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Speaker 1: contracts because the Rams are going to eat up a

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Speaker 1: lot of money having gotten rid of Todd Gurley and

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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, who they gave big contracts to. And I

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Speaker 1: saw where somebody said on Twitter that Dak Prescott should

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Speaker 1: look at this and why he should take a lot

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Speaker 1: of money because it means you have to get rid

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Speaker 1: of other players. And I kind of laughed at it

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Speaker 1: because I think Jared Golf is a guy they want

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Speaker 1: of them think, and they did give a lot of

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Speaker 1: money to that. Jared Goff wasn't out here trying to

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Speaker 1: save anybody money. This comes down to a team and

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Speaker 1: how they decide to spend their money here. I never

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Speaker 1: agree with them getting Todd Gurley that money because Todd

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Speaker 1: girls the guy who dealt with ACL problems back at George.

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Speaker 1: Why would you invest in a guy who's already been

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Speaker 1: injured at the running back position. I thought that was

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Speaker 1: a bad move by less need of rags. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: think it was an extremely bad move by the Rams

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Speaker 1: to try to give Todd Gurley that money. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was a productive player. I think he was up

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Speaker 1: for the MVP running that year they went to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But I mean, like you said, he had

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Speaker 1: chronic knee problems and he's a running back. They take

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Speaker 1: the most punishment out of any position in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: They're consistently hit, even if they don't get the ball,

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Speaker 1: and they're blocking, they're hitting three hundred pound defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: trying to block them. So I just don't think the

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Speaker 1: running back position overall is a great investment unless you

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Speaker 1: have one of them stalwarth players and one of them

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Speaker 1: once in a generation players that you gotta have. I

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Speaker 1: think that's the only position that you might be able

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Speaker 1: to pay a running back. But overall, Houston, Houston, we

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Speaker 1: got a problem, That's all I gotta say. Man, more

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Speaker 1: than neging mistakes, and that comparison to the Cowboys, to

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Speaker 1: me doesn't make much sense. I can guarantee you that

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Speaker 1: there Brandon Cooks put up numbers like Amari Cooper, and

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Speaker 1: then Girley put up bubs like Zeke did last year.

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Speaker 1: They would have found a way to keep them on

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Speaker 1: the team. It just wasn't really all about money. Those guys.

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Speaker 1: They got rid of Todd Gurley one, he got bad

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Speaker 1: knees and he was the source of all media last

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Speaker 1: year trying to figure out when he was gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to play. And Brandon Cooks was not able to

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Speaker 1: be on the field. And I think that's those are

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Speaker 1: the two reasons why they aren't on the team this year.

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Speaker 1: Money is one, but I think their production and availability

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Speaker 1: It was top of the list for that one, not

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Speaker 1: necessarily just the bread because they'll pay Zeke and Coop

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Speaker 1: right now if they were available. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: a question real quick. Do you guys think that that

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Speaker 1: Girly contract and all does that affect Zeke going forward?

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Speaker 1: Or do you think he's one of those outliers where

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. He's that good, he deserves that money.

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Speaker 1: He's good. I look at Zeke as a guy who's

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Speaker 1: been healthy throughout his career, and I think then that's

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Speaker 1: why I go back to the Gurly deal. Todd was

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Speaker 1: never healthy. So if a guy was never health, it

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Speaker 1: was just a matter of time when you were dealing

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Speaker 1: with that type of injury. And I just think they

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Speaker 1: screwed up as far as Cooks goes there, I didn't

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Speaker 1: understand them paying him as well, considering you had Cooper

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Speaker 1: Cup and I and this is just me. I think

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Speaker 1: Sean Sean McVay is a kind of guy where if

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Speaker 1: I'm less need, I asked, Sean McVay, who can you

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Speaker 1: come in here? Who can we plug in here? And

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Speaker 1: you can win with next? Kind of like what New

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Speaker 1: England has been able to do during the years is

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Speaker 1: being able to plug in guys and Josh McDaniels figures

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Speaker 1: out a way to use that's just like this is

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Speaker 1: this is the example of receivers playing for different quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Because the reason Cook's got paid is because he was

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans, I believe, And I think Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: was thrown to him and he was going crazy and

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Speaker 1: then he got up there with Golf and it hadn't

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Speaker 1: been the same. Maybe he's leading them across the middle

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Speaker 1: too much. I'm not sure, but different quarterbacks will hurt

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Speaker 1: our help the production of a great receiver. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's one team, the Rams, and what they're

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Speaker 1: doing Tampa Bay is bringing in Tom Brady here. And

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Speaker 1: you guys had brought up the thought of just what

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Speaker 1: you felt when Tom said why he left New England.

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Speaker 1: So oh, I definitely think you know Tom. I believe

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Speaker 1: Tom left just because one. I think his teeth done

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Speaker 1: all he could for New Wing. I mean twenty years,

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Speaker 1: six Super Bowls, nine appearances overall. I mean he's overall

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Speaker 1: the goat in New England, so I mean pretty much

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Speaker 1: he's the man there, and he I think he wanted

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Speaker 1: a fresh start. I mean, contrary to belief, I think

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Speaker 1: he did think that, you know, Bill Belichick was kind

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Speaker 1: to share the credit with Bill Belichick. He wanted to

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Speaker 1: see if he could do it on his own. And

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Speaker 1: I think he deserved that, right. I mean, twenty years,

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Speaker 1: six bowls. If he wants to see if he can

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Speaker 1: do it on his own, go ahead and right to you.

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Speaker 1: I think he went to the right place in Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're loaded offensively, so I don't think he'll

643
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Speaker 1: take a dip. I think he'll actually do better this

644
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: year offensively than he did last year. But I think

645
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: he just wanted the opportunity to do it on his

646
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: own seat. He could do it on his own and

647
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: I think he deserves that, being a goat. Yeah, and

648
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: him like I felt like he felt slighted us somehow

649
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: up there. They'll never tell us the real story because

650
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: they're professionals and they keep that to themselves and they

651
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: do have a respectful relationship. But for him to say

652
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: that he felt like the writing was on the wall

653
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year before it even started.

654
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: So he knew something. He's been there twenty years. He

655
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: knows how to how to fill out the temperature and

656
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: the vibe there. And if he felt that way at

657
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, there were some signals and

658
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: signs that he was picking up on from Belichick. I

659
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: don't believe it was Craft. I think it was Belichick,

660
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: uh that that he picked up on and he just

661
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: knew that that was the end for him. So I

662
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: know it's something more there. But with them being the

663
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: professionals that there are, having that relationship that they've had

664
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: for so long, we'll never get it out of them.

665
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: But so we just hit a speculate. I just think

666
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: it was a little bit more than more than what

667
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: they what they led us to believe. Um telling you

668
00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: that book's coming out, give it about stories. It's coming up,

669
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: the true Stories. It's coming out. It's gonna be a

670
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: thirty for thirty or he gonna it's gonna be exclusive

671
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: to the book. Yeah, I don't read it too, absolutely

672
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: read it. So what are you making those do? Tampa

673
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: Bay uniforms? So Tampa Bay Atlanta unveiled new uniforms and

674
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: I saw that. I saw they had a picture of

675
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: they showed him. It was that movie is the log Yard. Yeah,

676
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: the logus Yard. They look just like the prisoner's outfit.

677
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: So the Logan Yard they look exactly the same. You

678
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: know what, more power with them. They are what they are.

679
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: I like the ones that they had previously. So so mccraig.

680
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: That was the Carolina Panthers website. So they cracked back

681
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: on them. And then you should you know, so you

682
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: look at a person's laughing in the background, and then

683
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: they showed Atlanta uniform and then it goes into that

684
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: reveal of Adam Sandler and the The Longest Yard movie.

685
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: But that was the Carolina Panthers. Oh these blubber runs

686
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: their social media. They got the belt for that one.

687
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: They got, they got the championship for that. These these

688
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: these handles for these teams, Man, they get more creative

689
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: and a little bit more bold as we move out,

690
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: move on through the years, man, because just just like

691
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: you see with like the water Burger, messing with McDonald's

692
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: at Chick fil A, and all of this stuff is

693
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: like now coming over into the NFL. And I think

694
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: it's good for it's good entertainment for us. Man. It was.

695
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: It was funny. Else probably one of the one of

696
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: the times I laughed out loud during this during this lockdown.

697
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean, to be completely honest, those those uniforms are terrible.

698
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Tampa Bay's all right, I mean they kind

699
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: of kind of a throwback to him. But Atlanta, I

700
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: mean it looks like like a food bull shirt. Remember

701
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: food Boo back in the day. It looks like a

702
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: food Boo shirt. Man. That thing is terrible. It's terrible.

703
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: It's not it's not good. And I just I just

704
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: think about how many people had to sit in their

705
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: room and give the old k so like, yeah, this

706
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: is you're gonna kill them with this one. This is fire.

707
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all, is it right here? We're gonna kill

708
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: them with this one. Let's do this unkilled video. Let's

709
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: do it. And then you go on Twitter and you

710
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: see the Carolina Pathers dogging you like that again, all

711
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: comments and laughter out of it. Oh Man, putting that

712
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: a good choice? Yell lettering on the jerseys, I thought

713
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: was just I thought that was college. I was like this,

714
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: this is not college putting your names out there like

715
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: Cleveland did there. I didn't. I didn't like. I didn't

716
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: like either one. I didn't like Tampa's or Atlantis. That

717
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: was just me. Everybody want to be innovator. Man, I

718
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: agree with you, Man, not good choices. They should be

719
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: fired for that. Good choice. I'll tell you one that

720
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: won't change. As the Cowboys on the players Lounge, the

721
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: All Decade Team for the twenty tens comes out. The

722
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys were two players on their Tyrant Smith at the

723
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: tackle position, Zach Martin at the guard position, and for

724
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: both men U this is a great honor as they

725
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: have built Hall of Fame resumes and there's still more

726
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: to their careers. But when you start talking about trying

727
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: to get in that room and can't. Ohio, where the

728
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: writers make the votes? They Drew, look and see have

729
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: you made it all decade teams? So Zach Martin Tiresman,

730
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: this is a feather in their cap as well as

731
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: everybody else who ended up making that twenty tens team. McCray,

732
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: I know you wanted to talk about this topic and

733
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: you were very happy that two of your your LSU

734
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: Tigers make the least. Yeah, man, you know, shout out

735
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: to the honey Badger. He changed the game with the

736
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: with the with the with the golden mohawk. Oh am,

737
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: I goal, No, I can hear Danny a little bit?

738
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Now? All right, Church, Church, you

739
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: go ahead and pick up here. I'm gonna give you

740
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: honors a thin here. I think they got it completely wrong.

741
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they missed out on two players

742
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: who needed to be in this All Decade team, and one,

743
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: of course, I think it had to be Drew Brees.

744
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's a tough comparison with him

745
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers, but I think you gotta give Breezes

746
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: the nod on this one. I mean, they've they've had,

747
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, MVP seasons. They both won a Super Bowl,

748
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: m Rodgers won hits within the two thousand and two

749
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: thousand and ten decade or whatever. But they're both one

750
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: time super Bowl champions. They're both great players. But I

751
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: think you give Breese the nod. And then secondly, I

752
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: think you gotta where was I had? How did I

753
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: not make this All Decade team? I mean, I played,

754
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: I played in the league. I played for the Cowboys

755
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: seven years. I was a great safety. I needed to

756
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: be on this All decade team. They missed out on me.

757
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm upset. I'm upset. What can I say? Take me

758
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: back to this quarterback situation? Yeah, oh, you're just gonna

759
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: and just gonna race. I mean, really, how do you

760
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: take Breeze ahead of Brady during the twenty tens when

761
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: you consider all the Super Bowls, at AFC Championships games

762
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: that that Brady? Oh no, not Brady. I'm Brady's a

763
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: lock for sure. I'm talking about Rogers. You tell Rogers, okay, smooth,

764
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: nah man, are we back? Can y'all hear me? Now? Yeah?

765
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: We got you during the twenty tens, Rogers, I know

766
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: it's close. He did he did he did, and MVP

767
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: Breeze He's never won an MVP. I just think when

768
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: you look at it overall, I just think overall from

769
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: two thousand and two thousand and ten, I don't have

770
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: the numbers in front of me right now. I'm just

771
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: going by the eye test. I just feel as though

772
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: Breeze made more of an impact than than Rogers did.

773
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: Um Bud, granted, I will give you this, Breeze, I

774
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: feel like I did play with more talent than Rogers did.

775
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: So you might be swaying me a little bit here, Nui.

776
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: I'm still going with Breeze. But now that I'm looking

777
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: at the talent factor, I mean he had Michael Thomas,

778
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: he had Alvin Kamara, I mean, Jimmy Graham and his prime.

779
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: So you might be swamming me here, New you might

780
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: be swamming me. I mean during the twenty tens, while

781
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: while Brady was putting up you know, he was doing

782
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: championship like things, there were a lot of times when

783
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: you were just saying the best quarterback was Aaron Rodgers.

784
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: And while Breeze has been playing high level football for

785
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: most of the decade, people were saying Rogers was the

786
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: top quarterback in the thing? Are we just saying that

787
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: just because of armed talent wise or actual like he

788
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: was putting up those those numbers to back up the

789
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: armed talent, I would say the numbers and also the

790
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: the the wins. I mean they did a lot of winning.

791
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at Mike mccarth. I mean they

792
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: did a lot of winning with Aaron Rodgers up there

793
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: at Green Bay. The big criticism was that people were

794
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: saying that they needed to do more more winning, which

795
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: is kind of unfair. Something about that was the same

796
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: thing you should have said about Breeze and in Sean Payton.

797
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: They also won on the road, uh, with Aaron Rodgers

798
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: and bree Breeze and do that as much. This is true,

799
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: This is true, This is true. I I'm gona tree

800
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: to disagree. They're both phenomenal players out there, but I'm

801
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: gonna have to lean towards Breeze on this one. I

802
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: got I gotta finish getting my shout out to the

803
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: Honey Badger and Patrick Peterson for making All Decade team.

804
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Cowboys that made it. But those

805
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: LSU guys made it. They changed the game, and Pat

806
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: Peterson could have been on there twice because Church remembers

807
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: when we got into the league, this guy was one

808
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: of the most dangerous punt returners that we had seen

809
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: of our time. He was he was doing the dns,

810
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: he was scoring touchdowns and nobody wanted to kick to him.

811
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: So shout out to those guys, Shout out to the Cowboys,

812
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: Go Tigers. He was. He was definitely an electric as

813
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: hell back there returning. But I have a question. Did

814
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: Matthew Slater make make special teams all decade team? No?

815
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: To me, that's a crime. He's been a Pro bowler consistently.

816
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: He's obviously one of the top special teams players that

817
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: ever played the game. I don't know how they did

818
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: they have a slot for that though, because I only

819
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: saw pun punt return and kick her and kickers. Did

820
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: they have a like? I don't think they have a

821
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: slot for just uh like they do at the Pro Bowl.

822
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: Where do you just got being supposed to see? But

823
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: he would have been on there they did not. All right,

824
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: we got to take another break here, but when we

825
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: come back, I'll get into the seventeenth overall pick for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and where I am leaning where two very

827
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: successful college quarterbacks who were now without teams without proteins

828
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Speaker 1: I'm the we Scrugs, joined by former Dallas Cowboys players

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Speaker 1: Barry Church and Danny McCray. Let's get back into the

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Speaker 1: National Football League and two guys who won high school

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Speaker 1: trophies and national championships were both the first overall picks

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Speaker 1: of their draft. Jamis Winston and Cam Newton are both

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Speaker 1: out of work. Jamis Winston posted a video of himself

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Speaker 1: doing a workout, and David Carr cracked back on him,

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Speaker 1: saying this is why you should not have your friends

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Speaker 1: working you out, that he should get a real trainer,

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00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: and Jamis fired back that this person has been his

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Speaker 1: trainers since he was fourteen. They had a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of success and said, look, I respect you, but if

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Speaker 1: you don't have anything positive to say, you might as

881
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: well just leave me alone. So I thought that was

882
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: a smart comeback by Jamis to basically tell Car to

883
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Speaker 1: stay out of his business. But where do you guys

884
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Speaker 1: think Cam Newton and Jai Jamis Winston land are they starters?

885
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: Where do you think they'll go? Church? You fire off first?

886
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: For me, I'm gonna start off with Cam Newton. I

887
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: think Cam got a little bit better of an opportunity

888
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: than Jamis Winston, does it get back into that starting

889
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: role pretty faster than he would have. Um, he's a

890
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: former NFL MVB, he's been to the Super Bowl, He's

891
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: had success, and a lot of these his downfall he's

892
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: past couple of years. A lot can be blamed to injuries.

893
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean he had injuries to the shoulders, you know,

894
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: the ankles all banged up. So I think if he

895
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Speaker 1: can rework his playing style, you know, get get out

896
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: of bounds more, or slide more, or get a ball

897
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: out of his hands a lot quicker than I think,

898
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: he'll have a better opportunity of being a starter somewhere else.

899
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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston, you know, he's a gun slinger. It is

900
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: what it is. He throws and throws and throws. But

901
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: I think the problem with him is he turns the

902
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: ball over way, way, way too much, and I think

903
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: it makes coaches uncomfortable even having him back there, you know,

904
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball, because you never know what's going to happen.

905
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Speaker 1: He had his Tampa Bay defense in the worst field

906
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Speaker 1: position throughout the whole NFL, and that's because of his turnovers.

907
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: Not only did he throw thirty interceptions, but I believe

908
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: he lost five or six fumbles as well. So here's

909
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: a guy that just is a turnover machine happening. And

910
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: I think he might be able to stay in the

911
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: league as a backup type role, maybe spot game here

912
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: and there. But I just think coaches overall do not

913
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: want that type of quarterback back there, slanging, throwing, intersept

914
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: like that. But Cam Newton over I think he has

915
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: a better opportunity to get back in that starting to roll,

916
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: but he has to get healthy first, and once he is,

917
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Speaker 1: I think he'll be one of the better quarterbacks in

918
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Speaker 1: the league. Yeah. Same here. I don't know how many

919
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Speaker 1: people are gonna touch Jamimes Winston with those interception problems.

920
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Speaker 1: He will be a backup guy. He'll make some of

921
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: the easiest money in the NFL as those backup quarterbacks

922
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: due like Chase Daniels. But I don't see anybody taking

923
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Speaker 1: that risk of having their job on the line by

924
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Speaker 1: picking up Jameis Winston. M Cam is definitely gonna be

925
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Speaker 1: a starter somewhere, Just not sure where. Where's Where's Ron

926
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Speaker 1: when you need him? Uh? Could? Could it? Could it be? Washington.

927
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I know somebody will. It will

928
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Speaker 1: not be Washington. It will not be Washington. Washington's got

929
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Speaker 1: twenty two million, they got to pay Alex Smith, they

930
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Speaker 1: got Dwayne Haskins, who the owner loves, and they just

931
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Speaker 1: traded for Kyle Allen. There's no way Cam is gonna

932
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Speaker 1: go up there and sit on the bench. So, no

933
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Speaker 1: way he ends up in Washington. No way, even to

934
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Speaker 1: a tug of Iolo two in the draft ends of

935
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Speaker 1: a watching, they're set right there at the quarterback spot.

936
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Speaker 1: So because of money and also just because of the

937
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: owner's love and desire for Haskins, it's very strange. Uh,

938
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Speaker 1: Camp will be a starter. I'm just I'm just not

939
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Speaker 1: sure where where he fits in at But he is

940
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Speaker 1: heading heading, heels above jamis in this in this race,

941
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Speaker 1: and somebody would give him a shot, and I think

942
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Speaker 1: he'll he'll be a star when he doesn't just put

943
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Speaker 1: him in that position where he can be dangerous with

944
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Speaker 1: his legs and his arm again, and I think he'll

945
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Speaker 1: be successful. All right, another time. Yeah, I've got him. No, no,

946
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Speaker 1: no church, hit a church. I was gonna say, you know,

947
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Speaker 1: before I thought he would have had a great landing

948
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Speaker 1: spot in Chicago. But you know they say they they

949
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Speaker 1: went up there and got nick full. So I'm not

950
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Speaker 1: quite sure where he would be able to land. Um,

951
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, maybe as you know, I'm not quite sure.

952
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be a tough one for him

953
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Speaker 1: to lack. There's pretty much in every NFL team, I mean,

954
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Speaker 1: there's kind of a solid guy back there. I don't

955
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Speaker 1: always see too many openings up left for him, So

956
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Speaker 1: he might have to slide in there as a backup

957
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Speaker 1: and then uh taking role of the starting role you know,

958
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Speaker 1: later on in the season. But we'll see Washington does

959
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Speaker 1: not have a solid guy, but but the owner loves

960
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Speaker 1: him then and we know how these things work with owners, Okay.

961
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Speaker 1: I mean I remember when when when Bill Parcels first

962
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Speaker 1: took over the Cowboys, Jerry Jones said, hey, look I

963
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Speaker 1: got Quincy Carter and Chad Hutchinson. I'd liked for you

964
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Speaker 1: to see what the what these guys can do. When

965
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: Bill said, okay that after yal, Bill is like I'm done.

966
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Speaker 1: It brings it testiferny. So we know how owners have

967
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: swayed in this. Jeff Fisher wanted Matt Leiner and the

968
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: owner said we're taking vice young. So there you go.

969
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: That's how that happened. There. Let me switch this back

970
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: into the Cowboys. From Alden Smith's standpoint, Cowboys signed to

971
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Speaker 1: a one year deal. Jay Glazer worked with Alden Smith

972
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: and Alton Smith told him yesterday this was the low

973
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Speaker 1: point for him in his football journey. What was rock

974
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: bottom for you that you realized you had to make

975
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Speaker 1: a change. Um, I would say twenty eighteen was a

976
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Speaker 1: tough year. And in that year, you know, I was,

977
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Speaker 1: I was in a really dark place and I didn't,

978
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Speaker 1: you know, have a lot of value for how I

979
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Speaker 1: thought about myself. So I was, you know, when I

980
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: was in the in the bad spot. You know, it

981
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: got bad, pretty bad. You know, I was sleeping under

982
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: a car for some nights because like my my sickness

983
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: took me there and I had a home sleeping, but

984
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Speaker 1: I was in such a dark place that I didn't

985
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: see myself deserving anything other than that. Wow, So you

986
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: went from sleeping under a car to signing with the

987
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. It's it's unreal. Tell people, obviously, I know

988
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: how you got connected with them, but I don't think

989
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: the world. Tell people how the Cowboys first entered the

990
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: picture in January. Yeah, so at um, your gym, Mike

991
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: McCarthy came and we visited, and I had and I

992
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Speaker 1: had played against him when I was you know, in

993
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: San Francisco, when he was in Green Bay. But that's

994
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: as far as we had, you know, had contact. But

995
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: when we met, it seemed like we had known each other.

996
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: And you know, that was really important to me because

997
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: going through this process, I wanted us surround myself with

998
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: people who I felt that connection with it and I

999
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: felt like he, you know, genuinely cares about me and

1000
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: just what I what I'm trying to do, and just

1001
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: me asn't man, And um, that was really important. All right.

1002
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: So Aldon Smith is still yet to be reinstated by

1003
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: the NFL. Saint thing goes for Randy Gregory, Bill Parcells's

1004
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: to say, I'll I could go buys what I see. So, fellas,

1005
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: from what you've heard so far from Olden Smith hasn't

1006
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: changed any of your thoughts about it. Because last week

1007
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: Boat said you you worked down with us. Uh would

1008
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: have to give that a note. Uh, Like I said,

1009
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: nothing against him. The proof is in the pudding. That's

1010
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: that's the one of the oldest sains and and until

1011
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: he's thrown into that fire of being in the limelight

1012
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: and being around the team and having an opportunity to

1013
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: go do the right thing or do the wrong thing,

1014
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: and being putting those situations and making the right choice,

1015
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: then I'm just I'm stuck where I'm at. I have

1016
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: a high hoax for him. I hope it works out

1017
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: for him, but until I see it, then you know,

1018
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to be fooled by saying I think

1019
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: he's he's one hundred percent changed, and then as soon

1020
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: as he gets out there, something goes wrong. So high

1021
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: host form but we'll see. Yeah, I'm I'm gonna agree

1022
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: with you one hundred percent on that one day. I

1023
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: got high hoaxed for him. But like you said, we

1024
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: haven't seen him be thrown into the fire yet. I mean,

1025
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: what happens when he gets down here and Dallas is

1026
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: it's a big city. I mean there's a lot of

1027
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: lights going on, a lot of things just do at nighttime.

1028
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: He hasn't been thrown in that fire and over a year,

1029
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: so I want to see what happens when when when

1030
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: that presents itself to him. Also, what if this team

1031
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: is having a lot of success. What if they're he's

1032
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: He's and he's one of the reasons they're having success.

1033
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: He's on a double digit sack terror, he's going crazy,

1034
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: and then all the media and all everybody kind of oh,

1035
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,959
Speaker 1: all that we want to pee, all that we wanted.

1036
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: That's what I want to see, is he is. He's

1037
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: still going to be as calm, cool and collected as

1038
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: he is in these interviews and still have that same mentality,

1039
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: I hope. So, I mean, I'm all about, you know,

1040
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: giving second chances, even though this is probably his tenth chance,

1041
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm all about giving giving second chances.

1042
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: And hopefully he's able to take advantage of this, seeing

1043
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: as though he has been blessed with the ability to

1044
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: come back to the NFL. A lot of people will

1045
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: wish they were able to come back to the NFL

1046
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: after four years, but you know, he's been able to

1047
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: have that opportunity. So I hope he doesn't waste it.

1048
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: But we'll see when when it comes down to a

1049
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: nut cutting time. Jim tom Sula is the Cowboys new

1050
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: defensive line coach. He worked with Alden Smith in San

1051
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: Francisco and the assistant defensive line coach is Leon Lett,

1052
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: and leon Lett has uh. He's a guy who can

1053
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: talk to Olden Smith and truly say to him, I

1054
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: understand a little bit of your challenge here because of

1055
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: what he went through in his career. So when you're

1056
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: talking about a support system, there's at least two guys

1057
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: there who can offer that to old and Smith. The

1058
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: NFL Draft is April twenty twenty fourth and twenty fifth.

1059
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: Teams are going to have to draft at home that

1060
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: cannot be at the facilities here. The Cowboys hold the

1061
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: seventeenth overall pick. They're more and more modern drafts out there, Fellas.

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Speaker 1: You know, I do not want any parts of a

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00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: Cowboy wide receiver at seventeen. I don't want any parts

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00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: of a Cowboy wide receiver in the first, second, or

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00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: third rounds. I believe they need to be all defense.

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00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: They did bring in te Higgins for a video conference interview. Look, fellas,

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00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play it because I know we're up

1068
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 1: against the clock here, so I'm gonna play t Higgins.

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00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: But you guys, you can't want a wide receiver who's

1070
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: gonna cover somebody on this defense. Fellas, you're completely right.

1071
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean you can't take a receiver. I mean you

1072
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: have two bona fide proven receivers on the outside and

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00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: Gallup and Cooper, and I feel like you can find

1074
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: you don't have to waste a first round draft or

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00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: a first round pick on a slot receiver. I feel

1076
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: like you can find a slot receiver later on in

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00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: the draft if that's what you really want. But I mean,

1078
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: you got two bona fide guys on the outside. You

1079
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: got a tight end that I think can have a

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00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: breakout season as a passive catcher. So I just don't

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00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: see the reason to go offense first. For me, I

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00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: would go I would go defense and that and it's

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00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: specifically I would go in the secondary. I would try

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00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 1: to go after the Alabama cornerback. I think his name

1085
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: was Tavon I want to say Tavon Wilson, I think,

1086
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: or Tavon Digs yet Yep, Tavon did. He's a he's

1087
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: a prototypical corner out there. He's big, he's ranging, he

1088
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: can run with anybody, and he's physical and he's had

1089
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: that secondary coach from Nick Saban, who's who's who's known

1090
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: to be one of the best defensive back coaches in

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00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: the world right now. So I think that's that's one

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00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: of the picks if he were to be there for

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00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: them to pick up. But definitely not a wide receiver. Yeah,

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00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: I would go defense, but I mean I wouldn't fight

1095
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: as hard. Uh, it's new. He is going against offense.

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00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: I mean the formula show goodness my thing defensively, Church.

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00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: I go back to this. You start looking at contracts.

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00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of one year deals on this team.

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00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: Outside of Anthony Brown, your safeties and corners are all

1100
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: free agents after twenty twenty. You look at your linebacking

1101
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: cort Joe Thomas is on a one year deal, Sean

1102
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: Lee is on a one year deal. Vander Esch has

1103
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: got a neck issue, and you did sign Jaalen Smith

1104
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: to a long term deal. So you have issues long

1105
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: term at the linebacking position. Gerald McCoy on the D

1106
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: line that's a one year deal. Don Terry Poets a

1107
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: two year deal and possibly to get out after one year,

1108
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: and who knows how long Crawfords goes. So we talk

1109
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: about the defense and having guys here for multiple years.

1110
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: Right now, we don't see a lot of that at

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00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: all three levels. That's why I think you've got to

1112
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: go first round, because that gives you five years for

1113
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: a player, and then you start talking about the second

1114
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: and third rounds. This is four years. I mean they

1115
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: got to replenish themselves long term defensively for this team. Oh,

1116
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: I think you're think you're right, You're right on the money.

1117
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: I think eighty percent of this draft. I think maybe

1118
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: one or two picks later on, maybe to the offense.

1119
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 1: If that, you know, maybe just one. But you gotta

1120
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: address the defense. Like you said, we lost a lot

1121
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: of key pieces in free agency. We lost Quinn, we

1122
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: lost Byron Jones back there, we lost Jeff Heathrew was

1123
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback of the secondary. I mean, we have a

1124
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: lot of defensive players that we have now or just

1125
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: like you said, under one year contracts. So if you

1126
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: want that stability, if you want that championship window, I

1127
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: think to expand for more than just one or two years.

1128
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: I think you gotta address the defensive side of the ball. Offensively,

1129
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: I think you're pretty much stuck with with you gout

1130
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: and I think that's really good with what they got

1131
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: on that side. So I think you gotta you gotta

1132
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: look at this defense side of the ball and try

1133
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: to figure out how to get some picks in there

1134
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: and get some long term guys that can pretty much

1135
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: produce for this team. A lot of good comments on

1136
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: the seventeenth pick here on the Twitter web pigs as

1137
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm just looking here as we're broadcasting, and there's some

1138
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: people saying, look, don't take Digs. It's seventeen. You trade back, Barry.

1139
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: Here's always been my issue with the problem of trading back.

1140
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 1: Every time we trade back, you're trading away from good players.

1141
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: But the whole thing about it, in terms of trading back,

1142
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: who's to say that Diggs is going to be there?

1143
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: You know, you can say, well, maybe seventeen is too high,

1144
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: you want to go to twenty four. But what if

1145
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: the Raiders at nineteen want Digs. I mean, there's other

1146
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: teams that are gonna look at these quarterbacks and say, look,

1147
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: we need help as well. So I don't know if

1148
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are in this great position where fans always think,

1149
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: let's trade back, let's trade back. If you like a player,

1150
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: then you take them. The Cowboys right now need help

1151
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: at the corner position. Cheeto Ruzier is your number one guy.

1152
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how comfortable Mike Nolan is with that.

1153
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: I do think they need to invest in a five

1154
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: year because that's what you're gonna get with a first

1155
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 1: round pick in five years in a quarterback and trying

1156
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: to trade down and hope and pray that. Okay, maybe

1157
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: you like Diggs and he's not there, does that mean

1158
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna take Glad. I just think if you're guys

1159
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: there at seventeen, take your guy and move on. Yeah.

1160
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that. When I think one

1161
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: hundred percent with drafted, you like a guy and he

1162
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: and you think he can help your team and stoop

1163
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: from the jump, I think you gotta get him. I

1164
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: think that's all what the first round is all about,

1165
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: getting guys that can help produce you to help produce

1166
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: on your team immediately. And I think you need that

1167
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, especially at the

1168
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: cornerback position. Like you said, we have a Woozier there,

1169
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: but he struggled last year, especially on fifty fifty jump balls.

1170
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he was able to pretty much keep

1171
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: up with a lot of the receivers out there. So

1172
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 1: I think we need somebody else in there to play

1173
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: at that cornerback position. Like you said, we have Anthony

1174
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: Brown and we have George Lewis in there at the slot,

1175
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: but I think he's a much better slot defender than

1176
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: he is an outside corner. So we'll see what happens

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00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: with that. But I think they gotta go corner here

1178
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: and not trade back. If you like Tavon Diggs, if

1179
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: you like where he is or one of the other

1180
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: cornerbacks where that is, I think at seventeen, you gotta

1181
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: go grab him. Don't trade back, because like you said,

1182
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: you're moving away from good players and people, and you know,

1183
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: teams that are ahead of you, they might be able

1184
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: to snack those players up. So we'll see. Yeah, And look,

1185
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: if you say in the first round you're it's seventeen,

1186
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: you're going to be able to get a top corner

1187
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: if you want one, being Diggs, being Gladden me CJ.

1188
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: Henderson may go. A lot of drafts have CJ. Henderson

1189
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: going one spot earlier to the Atlanta Foustans, kind of

1190
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: like with the Fountas a couple of years ago, take

1191
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: Attack McKinley ahead of the Cowboys, and Cowboys were forced

1192
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: to take Taco Charlton. So but the Falcons have some

1193
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: of the exact same needs that the Cowboys do. When

1194
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: you're talking about D line defensive back. Look, if Javon

1195
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: kin Law of South Carolina happens to be there seventeen,

1196
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: I run and I go get that guy. Mean Joan Kinlaw.

1197
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: If you haven't read his story at all, I mean,

1198
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: this is a guy who grew up homeless, who can

1199
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: really push the pockets big. This is a this is

1200
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: a difference making player. But because of the medicals, and

1201
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: I've talked a couple of scouts and people who follow

1202
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: this his medical some teams may not take him because

1203
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: with the uncertainty and not being able to check players

1204
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: after yourself and not being able to go do the

1205
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: second opinion on the medicals after the combine, there could

1206
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: be some people who decide to pass on kin Law,

1207
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: so he could fall to the Cowboys. Maybe it's seventeen

1208
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you if he is, you take it

1209
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: because he's one of the top six players in this

1210
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: NFL draft based off a build. Yeah, I agree with

1211
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: Johanna present Man. If he's there, like you said, he

1212
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: is a beast and he's one of the most productive

1213
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: pass rushers in the in college football and in this draft,

1214
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: and I think if he's healthy, if you can get

1215
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: a second opinion, I mean, you gotta go. You gotta

1216
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: take a chance on him. He's one of those great

1217
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 1: players that you don't want to pass up. He don't

1218
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: want to risk him causing you harm later on and

1219
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: then in his NFL career. I mean, Ken law Is boy,

1220
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: you put that guy up there. He can play some three,

1221
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: you can play some five tech, he can play a

1222
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: little no. I mean this is this is a difference

1223
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: making guy. And one of the things that Cowboys got

1224
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: to do is figure out how to get more sacks

1225
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: and get more turnovers on this football team. I don't

1226
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: know the how blocks on him. Well, it's the knee.

1227
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: It's the knee. But here's the thing, Church, if it's

1228
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: not for the health issue, you're never gonna get to

1229
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: him at seventeen. So that's kind of true. He's a

1230
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: healthy guy. He's a top he's a top five pick,

1231
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: definitely a top ten pick, no doubt. But that's one

1232
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: issue here, with so much uncertainty with what we've been

1233
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: dealing with the COVID nineteen, that you could see a

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01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: player like that fault and one thing. We know we

1235
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: see every draft. They're gonna be players who fall for

1236
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: whatever reason. And if you're lucky up, Banny, you can

1237
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: sit there, maybe take that shot at Jevon ken Law

1238
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: and Jim tom Sula feels comfortable with him and Mike Nolan,

1239
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys may decide they want to want

1240
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: to take that chance and try and build their team

1241
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,959
Speaker 1: more on that D line and then try and maybe

1242
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: get a quarter in the second round and take their

1243
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: their chances there. President Trump was asked if he were

1244
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: pardon Joe Exotic, the guy for the Tiger King Netflix

1245
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: documented series, and in his briefing this week, Church I

1246
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: thought that was a crazy question to ask the president

1247
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: as he's dealing with the coronavirus. Yes, that is a

1248
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: crazy question to ask the president. I mean, we got

1249
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: a whole virus taking over the world right now, and

1250
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: you and you got somebody asking about Joe Exotic. I mean, yeah,

1251
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: the guy's the guy's hilarious and he's must see TV.

1252
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: But I mean he could stay his butt in jail

1253
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: right now. I mean, we got we got further things

1254
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: to worry about right now, but Joe Exotic I made

1255
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: I hope you're doing well in jail man. I think

1256
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: you wanta stay there for a little bit though. If

1257
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: you have I'm not seeing Tiger King. I will tell

1258
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: you this. It's worth it. It is, really, it is

1259
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: worth it. If I was skeptical for something, do I

1260
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: really want to waste time doing this? I watched it.

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01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: It was good. I binge watching, and uh it was stuff.

1262
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: So it was it was a good stuff side definitely

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01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: check it out. All right. That is a players lounge

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01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: for this week. We appreciate everyone who checked this out.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your comments on Twitter as well. I

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01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: try to respond to those that I can here. So

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