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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. I'm your host, ra Sean McDonald.

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Speaker 1: It is important to understand that everybody travels a different

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Speaker 1: So I always tell people stop reading other people's success

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Speaker 1: stories because it's time you start writing your art. You have.

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Speaker 1: These stories look great, but just their stories, It's time

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Speaker 1: for you to get your all committed effort and your

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Speaker 1: own plan to be successful. My next case is about planning.

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Speaker 1: He started early in life and I called him a

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Speaker 1: very good seeing friend. We've seen each other many times.

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Speaker 1: His name was Mark Marial. He's a president and CEO

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Speaker 1: of the National Urban League. The National Urban League is

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Speaker 1: the nation's largest historic civil rights and urban advocacy organization,

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Speaker 1: battle for jobs, education, housing, and voting rights equity. With NATI,

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Speaker 1: National Urban League affiliates across the country, serving three hundred communities,

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Speaker 1: they addressed at all education, jobs, health, housing and voting

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Speaker 1: and most important, civic engagement. Please walk with mondy making

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Speaker 1: conversation my friend Mark Marial ay rashaan my pleasure. Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. Happy New Year to you, and uh

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Speaker 1: happy Kuanza and happy Marry Christmas and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: bit early Happy King Day. I appreciate it because it's

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Speaker 1: this month. Tell me about this and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: tough and difficult times. But I think uh there's great

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Speaker 1: these things, let's let's go back a little bit. When

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Speaker 1: President Kamala Harris. Do you feel he will be able

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