Speaker 1: Wow. Donald, Wow. That's all I say is wow. And
Speaker 1: on a day when we have Neil Flynn on, like,
Speaker 1: I'm all excited. I've been pounding energy drinks and here
Speaker 1: I am. I'm ready to go. And know, Donald Fazon,
Speaker 1: do you want to tell everyone why you're so late?
Speaker 2: I made a mistake and tried to download the new
Speaker 2: Apple whatever it is. Yeah, the software two hours before.
Speaker 2: This computer it's pretty old. It's a MacBook Pro. But
Speaker 2: it's an old computer. You know, it's an older model
Speaker 2: of the MacBook Pro. Right now, So I am now
Speaker 2: twenty minutes later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mary, lay, we got Neil Flynn. He's like sitting
Speaker 1: in a holding room.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We put him in the holding We put him
Speaker 2: all in the holding cell.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They put Neil in a holding cell and he's
Speaker 1: just sitting there. He's probably gonna keep, probably gonna walk
Speaker 1: out soon.
Speaker 2: I hope Neil doesn't walk out. First of all, how's
Speaker 2: everybody doing?
Speaker 1: We were just chatting. We had a great chat waiting
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: What were you chatting about?
Speaker 1: We were talking about just our lives and what's happening,
Speaker 1: and how Joelle has a huge Twitter following I didn't
Speaker 1: know about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did this just happened because of the podcast or.
Speaker 1: No, that is Joelle Jowell. What's your handle? We should
Speaker 1: we should blow it up even more.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, my handle is at joel Monique on the
Speaker 3: twitters and the Instagrams. I was a writer before I
Speaker 3: came to you guys, and I would do a lot
Speaker 3: of critiquing of like television shows and movies. I think
Speaker 3: my Watchmen interviews are probably one I'm most famous for.
Speaker 3: Toronto International Film Festival just retweeted those yesterday. But yeah,
Speaker 3: come talk to me about nerdy and political things. It's
Speaker 3: good times.
Speaker 2: Well you're you're you're a Watchmen fan?
Speaker 3: Oh fuck it? From the graphic novel era, the ad show
Speaker 3: really killed it?
Speaker 2: Did you not like the movie?
Speaker 3: The movie was my introduction, and I find that it
Speaker 3: has some things that are very intriguing and interesting about it,
Speaker 3: But overall, I don't think it holds up to like
Speaker 3: the quality that is the original graphic novel.
Speaker 2: Right, the graphic novel has more.
Speaker 1: And I love the TV show Man. I thought that
Speaker 1: was incredible and it's brilliant.
Speaker 3: They want a Peabody this morning and.
Speaker 1: So relevant to today when you see these, when you
Speaker 1: see what's a What's happening in the news, and also
Speaker 1: like cops with their face masks on. I can't help
Speaker 1: but think of the Watchman. I was like, wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I saw someone with an article that was like
Speaker 1: Watchman was just a few months too early or something
Speaker 1: like that. Someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got it right, they got it right, they
Speaker 2: predicted it.
Speaker 1: Listen, I would love to banter with you and tell
Speaker 1: you how much I smell because I forgot to put
Speaker 1: on deodorant and uh and I'm I'm glad that we're
Speaker 1: on a zoom call, so you guys aren't offended, but
Speaker 1: we got Neil Flynt sitting on the.
Speaker 2: Other all right, Well, then hold on one second.
Speaker 4: I bought this six eight stories about show. We made
Speaker 4: about a bunch of.
Speaker 5: The stories.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think that you deserve to five
Speaker 1: six seven eight when you're this late.
Speaker 2: I did it already, so I know.
Speaker 1: But I just want to submit to the to the
Speaker 1: to the to the to the Scrubs podcast rule book
Speaker 1: that you are when you're this late. You don't get
Speaker 1: to five six seven eight, you're punished.
Speaker 2: When when did we get a rule book?
Speaker 1: You know, when I was a kid going to camp,
Speaker 1: I was so nerdy and this was back in a
Speaker 1: day when they would let you do this. But on
Speaker 1: the on the school bus to camp, I would sit
Speaker 1: in the front seat and as the bus. As the
Speaker 1: bus pulled in for each stop, the bus driver would
Speaker 1: allow me to operate the mechanism that opened up the
Speaker 1: school bus door. And I thought I was the coolest
Speaker 1: mofo in the world as the door operator. Now wait,
Speaker 1: this is my point. Was that I got in trouble
Speaker 1: one day at camp and the counselors told the bus
Speaker 1: driver that I had been bad and I was not
Speaker 1: allowed to operate rate the door that day, and I
Speaker 1: was crushed. I was I sat and pouted, and I
Speaker 1: just feel that should be something like your punishment. You
Speaker 1: don't get to five six seven eight when you've been naughty.
Speaker 2: But I already five six seven I know.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just trying to lay down the rules. Maybe
Speaker 1: Joel can can start to make like a bible of
Speaker 1: sorts of the rules of the show.
Speaker 2: Okay, how old were you when all of this happened?
Speaker 1: This was last year, and no I don't know daycamp.
Speaker 1: How old you at day camp? Seven eight?
Speaker 2: Ship? Well, then yes, I can understand.
Speaker 1: I was five six seven eight. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's bring in Neil Flynn, Dan. Push the button.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen give it up.
Speaker 5: Four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hi Neil Flynn, a you fellas.
Speaker 2: How's it going.
Speaker 5: Going? Well?
Speaker 2: Excellent?
Speaker 1: There he is? There is Hi Neil. This is a
Speaker 1: Joel and and I think you met Dan briefly.
Speaker 5: Yes. I was teaching him about computers and things like that.
Speaker 1: It's so good to see you, man.
Speaker 2: It is good to see you.
Speaker 5: You too. Donald's literally in the closet, good minute.
Speaker 2: I am literally in the closet.
Speaker 1: It started. It started Neil because it was it was
Speaker 1: the best place for sound, because it had all his
Speaker 1: clothes as a sound dampening thing. And then he realized
Speaker 1: that he could hide from his family in there. So
Speaker 1: he goes there sometimes even when we're not recording the podcast,
Speaker 1: to escape his his children.
Speaker 2: This is the this is the safest place in my house.
Speaker 2: My kids don't find my clothes amusing or interesting enough
Speaker 2: to want to hang out in the closet, so.
Speaker 5: I can't say I ever found my father's clothes amusing. Uh,
Speaker 5: we are any are any of your kids big enough
Speaker 5: to wear your clothes? Now?
Speaker 2: No? I no, thank good. Well, yeah, well, yeah, I
Speaker 2: have an eighteen year old with us, but uh, he
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily like the clothes I wear. He's more into
Speaker 2: that supreme style and stuff like that. Me personally, I
Speaker 2: you know, I've dumbed down my gear a little bit
Speaker 2: and now I'm a golf shirt and shorts kind of guy.
Speaker 2: And so what you see behind me is a bunch
Speaker 2: of golf shirts and then my shorts are over there.
Speaker 1: That Neil, that was your probably first and last tour
Speaker 1: ever of Donald's clothes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know you asked, but I do. I
Speaker 2: do remember. I do remember when my father's clothes became
Speaker 2: interesting to me and I wanted to wear all of
Speaker 2: his gear. And I would go into my dad's closet
Speaker 2: and take his shirts which were oversized for me, which
Speaker 2: at the time was really cool. And he had like
Speaker 2: a bunch of designer things that I didn't you know,
Speaker 2: he had like back in the day when jabbou was
Speaker 2: really popular, or you know, shirts like that, And I
Speaker 2: remember going.
Speaker 1: In his closet, Tini, do you remember those?
Speaker 2: No? I remember, No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I was like the sweatsuit of sweatsuit, okay, but.
Speaker 2: I remember going in his closet and taking a really
Speaker 2: expense shirt and wearing it outside and ripping it and
Speaker 2: being like, oh shit, my dad's gonna kill me. My
Speaker 2: dad's gonna kill me, and having to tell him. And
Speaker 2: my dad didn't come home all the time, right, So
Speaker 2: my dad would leave in the morning and then come
Speaker 2: back maybe you know, three four days later. You know,
Speaker 2: that's just how my dad rolls. And and I remember
Speaker 2: having to wait for him to come home to tell
Speaker 2: him that I ripped one of his really expensive shirts.
Speaker 2: And he wasn't too beat up about it, but I
Speaker 2: remember the fear for three days I had to wait,
Speaker 2: and you know, my mom being like, he's gonna kick
Speaker 2: your ass and me being like god, and.
Speaker 5: Then find ripped the shirt.
Speaker 2: Like playing playing something stupid, like we were playing in
Speaker 2: on a jungle gym and we would play tag where
Speaker 2: you couldn't touch the ground sure, and the jungle gym
Speaker 2: was huge, was big enough for you to jump from
Speaker 2: you know, the slide to you know, uh, one of
Speaker 2: the houses or wooden houses or some.
Speaker 5: Shit, yeah, or plant you were a kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a kid wearing my dad's oversized, expensive shirt.
Speaker 1: And what made you think, like, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna rock to the jungle gym today. Is Dad's expensive shirt?
Speaker 2: I just, you know, because everybody was wearing jabot, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I thought, well, if he
Speaker 2: has a shirt, I can go outside and I'll have
Speaker 2: this really crisp and it was like and it was
Speaker 2: fucked up to the fuck up thing was it was
Speaker 2: like in plastic and had just come from the cleaners
Speaker 2: and stuff. So I kind of knew. I kind of knew,
Speaker 2: like dude took the plastic off.
Speaker 5: I told.
Speaker 2: And I made a mistake. It's one of those things
Speaker 2: like I watched my kids now do to ship where
Speaker 2: it's like, what were you thinking, why would why would
Speaker 2: you even do something like that? And their answer is,
Speaker 2: I don't know. And that was my answer to I
Speaker 2: don't know, ye just impulsive, impulsive.
Speaker 1: My sister when I went close shopping, I remember I
Speaker 1: was in like fourth grade and it was the height
Speaker 1: of I don't know if you remember guest jeans. It
Speaker 1: was like the height of guest jeans and for mostly
Speaker 1: for women. I think at the time, I'm guessing because
Speaker 1: my sister convinced me and my mom that I should
Speaker 1: wear guest jeans as well. In fourth grade, and they
Speaker 1: were very uh you could always tell they were guest
Speaker 1: jeans because they had a triangle on the on the back,
Speaker 1: on the back, jean pocket. So I thought, Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not much of a style guy. I'm more of
Speaker 1: a sweatpants T shirt kid, but you know, okay, I'll
Speaker 1: try this out for a full day. I was bullied
Speaker 1: by essentially the entire school. Children of all ages and
Speaker 1: grades came by to point and laugh at me and
Speaker 1: my guest jeans.
Speaker 5: Because they were considered like girl jeans or.
Speaker 1: A girl a girl and expensive I think they were.
Speaker 1: They were like I remember them being like fifty bucks
Speaker 1: or maybe one hundred bucks whatever whatever they I mean,
Speaker 1: it was like too expensive for a kid to have anyway,
Speaker 1: but I think probably fourth grader. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I regret it to this day. I when
Speaker 1: Donald start talking about his story, I felt the pain
Speaker 1: in my heart from literally the It's like it's like
Speaker 1: it's like what's his name on on the on the
Speaker 1: Simpsons going. It was literally that for a full day
Speaker 1: of school. So then I go home, I go home
Speaker 1: in tears and I tell my mom, like I hate
Speaker 1: these jeans. I'm so everyone made funny me all day long.
Speaker 1: I fucking hate these jeans. And she was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna do Zach, those dream jeans are
Speaker 1: perfectly fine. We're gonna take my little stitch cutter and
Speaker 1: we're gonna cut the triangle off off the pocket. Well
Speaker 1: she did that, and they still had the marking of
Speaker 1: where the triangle was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, now you have some sort of knockoff guess jeans.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, but it's worse, exactly, Neil. Now I'm wearing
Speaker 1: black market guess Jeane. Well, Neil, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 1: We Donald and I started started doing this silly little thing,
Speaker 1: and both of us when we post about it on
Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter, I would say that like sixty percent
Speaker 1: of the comments people are right, right, are when are
Speaker 1: you having Neil Flynn on? So you are very beloved
Speaker 1: by beloved or beloved by either one by the people
Speaker 1: either one.
Speaker 5: It's like divisive and divisive all of a sudden, divisive
Speaker 5: became divisive because that's how Barack Obama pronounced it. Really, yeah,
Speaker 5: people say divisive. I had never heard it pronounced that
Speaker 5: way before Obama said, Well, you.
Speaker 2: Know, if Obama said it Yeah, now I'm switching.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm switching out.
Speaker 2: I'm switching It's a few years late, but I'm changing,
Speaker 2: switching it up, switching it up.
Speaker 5: If he starts wearing JBO shirts, That's what I'm gonna
Speaker 5: do too.
Speaker 1: He probably does wear guest jeans, though he's a stylish guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're still in style anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't know if. Yeah, I'm not sure how big
Speaker 2: Guess is. I don't think I know somewhere somebody the
Speaker 2: CEO of guesses like, we're still ahead, We're still ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get Donald know how we're gonna
Speaker 1: get send guest Gene in the mail, because sometimes when
Speaker 1: we mention things on here, we get sent in the mail.
Speaker 1: I got a care package from Omission. I have to
Speaker 1: tell him, is Neil. It's really lame in Hollywood to say,
Speaker 1: but I don't eat gluten. But I love beer, and
Speaker 1: so there's a really good pale ale called Omission, which
Speaker 1: I mentioned because we were all talking about beer. They
Speaker 1: sent me not only a beautiful care package of Omission beer,
Speaker 1: but an Omission backpack.
Speaker 2: I've yet to receive any of this.
Speaker 5: When you come to school in the backpack. I'm going
Speaker 5: to make fun of you. You got a mission bagpack.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be like, Zach, Please tell me you're not
Speaker 1: wearing a gluten free beer backpack.
Speaker 5: I don't really even know what that is. Gluten, but
Speaker 5: I think you can get away with not etene gluten
Speaker 5: in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can. It's just when I you know, this
Speaker 1: podcast has listened all over the world, and whenever I
Speaker 1: mentioned it, I cringe because I know people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: what a Hollywood tool.
Speaker 2: Not even you know, I thought that sparkling water was universal.
Speaker 2: You go in like Texas and you'll be like, can
Speaker 2: I get some sparkling water? And they'll be like, we
Speaker 2: don't have that, say club soda. Maybe I went to
Speaker 2: someplace and they were like, we do have club soda.
Speaker 1: Yes, what's the clubference between club soda and sparkling water?
Speaker 1: Does anybody know.
Speaker 2: Club soda is carbon and sparkling water is sodium? If
Speaker 2: I no.
Speaker 1: No, Neil knows.
Speaker 5: No, You're right. I have a cat. Okay, And of
Speaker 5: course they listen when you're saying no, yeah, but he's
Speaker 5: in my.
Speaker 1: Oh you were saying no to the cat. I thought
Speaker 1: you were. I thought you were heavily. I thought you
Speaker 1: were very clearly opining on.
Speaker 2: Donald's no no, no no.
Speaker 1: And then I was waiting for you to go into
Speaker 1: your explanation, but you never did.
Speaker 5: Don't try to give me that club soda story.
Speaker 1: All right, Wait, Joelle is letting us know. Club soda
Speaker 1: is artificially infused with carbon and mineral salts. Similarly, seltzer
Speaker 1: is artificially carbonated but generally does not contain any added minerals.
Speaker 1: Sparkling mineral water, on the other hand, is naturally carbonated
Speaker 1: from a spring or well, how is something naturally carbonated?
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, carbon get into it.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: Well, that was a very thorough explanation, but I still
Speaker 1: didn't understand it.
Speaker 2: I feel like you cussed and cut and pasted that
Speaker 2: though from from.
Speaker 1: She didn't just freehand type that. She just got it
Speaker 1: off the web.
Speaker 5: You know, speaking of places that don't have things. We're
Speaker 5: in some backwoods plays touring with a show and stopped
Speaker 5: a kind of a dairy queen type of thing, but
Speaker 5: sort of in love a forest for some reason, and
Speaker 5: one of the girls with us, she's going to get
Speaker 5: a cheeseburger. She says, what kind of cheese do you have?
Speaker 5: I think this is somewhere in Michigan, and the person
Speaker 5: literally goes, cheese. It's square, it's orange, and it's flat.
Speaker 5: That person went home and told her family, you wouldn't
Speaker 5: believe what this girl asked me to do.
Speaker 1: Kind of cheese, it's it's cheese.
Speaker 2: So all right, Neil, I was gonna do it. You
Speaker 2: got to.
Speaker 1: Do you do it, You do it?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, go ahead. I was just gonna be.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna be, like, I was just gonna
Speaker 2: say this, Neil, You're one of the few people in
Speaker 2: the history of television, there's like a handful of people
Speaker 2: that went from a show that ran for eight years
Speaker 2: to a show that ran for eleven year. What did
Speaker 2: the middle eleven nine to a nine year?
Speaker 1: Seventeen years?
Speaker 2: Seventeen years straight on television?
Speaker 5: Man, I know?
Speaker 1: And that actually and then actually knew you went onto
Speaker 1: another show right away, right, So you did eight and
Speaker 1: then that one didn't last, right, But you did eighteen
Speaker 1: years in a row on TV? Yeah, yes, that might
Speaker 1: be a record that You've got to be on a
Speaker 1: very short list.
Speaker 2: It has to be so.
Speaker 5: But if there is whatever the list is, however long
Speaker 5: it is, I am the least famous person on it.
Speaker 1: That's not true.
Speaker 2: I agree, I disagree.
Speaker 5: No, that's true, But it's just you know, I was
Speaker 5: trying for a long time before Scrubs came along, and
Speaker 5: then I finally the door opened, you know, and I
Speaker 5: got let into the party, and luckily enough I just stayed.
Speaker 1: Now tell us Neil, that's a good segue into because
Speaker 1: whenever we have the cast members on, we try and
Speaker 1: we've all sort of told our stories of of how
Speaker 1: he got on the show. And Bill sold a really
Speaker 1: funny story about you and which I'll let you tell
Speaker 1: or your version of it, because he was talking about
Speaker 1: how you initially read for Cox and and then when
Speaker 1: he said you wanted to be the janitor, you said
Speaker 1: something like, but I'll still have a stethoscope, right, or.
Speaker 5: Something that, yeah, well build things do embellish his story?
Speaker 1: Oh really? Yeah, over time, I know if you were
Speaker 1: if if you've heard a Bill story like at the beginning,
Speaker 1: and then what it's like in two years. It's like
Speaker 1: the ultimate game of telephone. It's become something exaggerated.
Speaker 5: But yes, and I thought before what kind of person
Speaker 5: just takes a story and changes, it improves it. Possibly
Speaker 5: a comedy writer. It kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1: But Neil, what was going on for you before? Like
Speaker 1: what were you up to before Scrubs? And then how
Speaker 1: did you come to be on Scrubs?
Speaker 2: Well, I can I just say you had done a
Speaker 2: bunch of movies though in Chicago and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: Like small parts, small nothing of any significance.
Speaker 2: But the baseball movie that you did. You were one
Speaker 2: of the key players in that movie, Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 5: It is correct, right right, And yeah, the out part
Speaker 5: in Major League as well. I was doing baseball movies
Speaker 5: only you know, I went into not even read but
Speaker 5: years ago whenever they would have made eight men out.
Speaker 5: I somehow got a chance to be one of the
Speaker 5: baseball players. And I went in and she says, so
Speaker 5: do you baseball? I said yeah, She said do you really?
Speaker 5: You know, like she pushed me. I said, well, it's
Speaker 5: not like I could have been a pro, you know,
Speaker 5: And I saw her face fall. She lost interest in me.
Speaker 5: I'm twenty five years old. If I could have been
Speaker 5: a pro, i'd be a pro. And then I see
Speaker 5: the movie and there's the baseball players they're playing catch.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: It sounds like doing the movie throwing the ball back
Speaker 5: and forth. We only got pros for this, you know. Anyway,
Speaker 5: So I wasn't in that baseball movie, but I was
Speaker 5: just doing little parts of We're Getting Get I was
Speaker 5: starting to get guest star on things a little bit,
Speaker 5: and and then this came up. I actually, I feel
Speaker 5: like I've told this story before. It Is it okay
Speaker 5: to repeat yourself?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, man, Our fans might not know it, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll love the story.
Speaker 5: Okay. I was doing guest stars on things, and whereas
Speaker 5: the first half of my career i'd been kind of
Speaker 5: a straight actor, kind of a drama leaning, drifted over
Speaker 5: into the comedy side, and thank goodness I did, because
Speaker 5: that's where things opened up. I had done an episode
Speaker 5: of Drew Carrey and Christa Miller was on that show,
Speaker 5: and shortly afterwards friends of mine said that they're going
Speaker 5: out to dinner with Chris Miller and her new husband,
Speaker 5: who turns out was Bill Lawrence. And I said, years ago,
Speaker 5: I met a Bill Lawrence. We played on the same
Speaker 5: basketball team out here right before I left and went
Speaker 5: back to Chicago, and it was the same guy. And
Speaker 5: so we you know, I went to their house for
Speaker 5: drinks or whatever, and then within a month or two
Speaker 5: he had this show that he had created, and so
Speaker 5: I got called in and I said, thanks for calling
Speaker 5: me in. He said, I didn't. I didn't give him
Speaker 5: your name. They because the same people that directed to
Speaker 5: Drew Carrey. I think cash scrubs.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: Anyways, so then I read the Doctor Cox and he
Speaker 5: said that was good. You're not going to get this part.
Speaker 5: I already know who I'm going to give it to.
Speaker 5: I said, oh, well, that's you know, fair enough, and
Speaker 5: he says, but you want to read this. He hands
Speaker 5: me two pages and it's the scene with the janitor
Speaker 5: and JD at the door, and he goes, good, you
Speaker 5: want to do that? He said, sure, you know, it's
Speaker 5: a job. As a job, that's all I've been doing.
Speaker 5: It's five hundred bucks or whatever it is for the
Speaker 5: end of the day. And then I think what was
Speaker 5: significant is between doing the pilot and that's all I
Speaker 5: was promised the janitor wasn't going to do anything else.
Speaker 5: Bill came to and saw an imp prov show that
Speaker 5: I did, and he enjoyed it and learned. I don't know,
Speaker 5: but I could think on my feet or whatever. And
Speaker 5: I think this made all the difference. That probably the
Speaker 5: first scene of the next episode when the show got
Speaker 5: picked up, we rehearsed it. He goes, yeah, good, and
Speaker 5: then if you think of something else, just throw it
Speaker 5: in do a take that or we would goo for
Speaker 5: around and rehearsal. You would say good, keep that remember.
Speaker 5: And so that for me, considering it was a pretty
Speaker 5: small part that wash that made all the difference that
Speaker 5: I got to have such latitude.
Speaker 1: What was amazing for for me watching you was Bill's
Speaker 1: respect for how understandably for how funny you were, because
Speaker 1: you know, with everyone else he would, you know, the
Speaker 1: rule on Scrubs was kind of like, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: make sure you get it as written and then if
Speaker 1: you guys have time, you can you can mess around
Speaker 1: a little bit, and and and and you know, and
Speaker 1: and and and we all did that. We all would
Speaker 1: would come up with stuff. But with Neil, Bill would
Speaker 1: just be like, all right, Neil, you can make something
Speaker 1: funnier than this, So what do you what do you
Speaker 1: want to say? And invariably Neil would just come out
Speaker 1: and sometimes they were long and like and and Bill
Speaker 1: would put them in, but they were. I mean, Neil,
Speaker 1: I you know, all my stuff was with you the
Speaker 1: first season, and I just I don't.
Speaker 5: Think I ever left with you.
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's what I meant to say. I was just
Speaker 1: I'd never really worked with anyone like that. I never
Speaker 1: worked I mean, I was so blown away by you
Speaker 1: because I had never I mean it was my first
Speaker 1: big job, obviously, but even in my other stuff I
Speaker 1: had done, I had never worked with someone who could
Speaker 1: think so quickly on their feet and would just be
Speaker 1: adding stuff that was, with all due respect to Bill,
Speaker 1: even finnier than what was written on the page.
Speaker 5: And Bill said, if it's funnier than what I wrote,
Speaker 5: that's fine. People will think I wrote it. Yeah, So
Speaker 5: he was fine with that. Ye. Well, I appreciate that compliment.
Speaker 5: And it was a I think, very rare situation at
Speaker 5: that unfolded the way it did. And when when that
Speaker 5: show ended and I went on to the middle, I said, well,
Speaker 5: this is great. The only the only bad part will
Speaker 5: be if they're sticklers about the script, because I'm not
Speaker 5: used to that, and they were, and I had a
Speaker 5: lot more to say.
Speaker 1: That must have been so frustrating for you, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I just can't one thing about Bill. We always joke
Speaker 1: about his ego and how competitive he is, but he
Speaker 1: really always he was very open to people contributing. That's
Speaker 1: not to say, you know, he was the editor ultimately,
Speaker 1: and he would decide what was in and what wasn't
Speaker 1: and and sometimes we thought stuff was hilarious that he
Speaker 1: wouldn't use it. But he was very open to everybody collaborating.
Speaker 1: And then it's like Neil said, he goes on to
Speaker 1: another show and they're like, great, we just want you
Speaker 1: to say exactly what's written, and you can't. You know,
Speaker 1: if I hear that story and I go, what were
Speaker 1: you thinking? I mean, you you contributed so much to
Speaker 1: the humor of Scrubs. I just can't believe. It's like
Speaker 1: not letting a racehorse run.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, the difference if it's a racehorses running
Speaker 5: around and someone says, okay, I can see that you're
Speaker 5: very fast. This is a farm, we need you to
Speaker 5: pull that plot running gets it. The difference is the
Speaker 5: tone of the show Scrubs, even though it had it's nice, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, it could turn on a dime and be
Speaker 5: heartfelt and sincere in that other than that, and much
Speaker 5: of it it wasn't very grounded. It was well all
Speaker 5: the fantas season. I mean it was very and the
Speaker 5: janitor could have turned out to be a Martian. Okay, sure,
Speaker 5: I guess sure. I was playing a family man in Indiana.
Speaker 5: You can't just say crazy things.
Speaker 1: Right right right where in One of your specialties was
Speaker 1: just I remember that Bill told the story about you
Speaker 1: getting the one thing you improve that he kept all
Speaker 1: in about getting into a fight with a with a chicken.
Speaker 5: Do you remember that, Yeah, it was a duck. I
Speaker 5: think a duck. I think I feel like that was
Speaker 5: written or partly written or mostly written, and I might
Speaker 5: have gone off a little bit, but I think.
Speaker 1: I think the start of it may have been. But
Speaker 1: as I recall you, as you did so many times hilariously,
Speaker 1: would just go off with it, and so, you know
Speaker 1: a lot of times we'd be like, this is hilarious.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Bill's gonna put this in the
Speaker 1: show or not, but on set we're all fucking cracking up.
Speaker 1: And then and then it almost invariably you'd see the
Speaker 1: episode cutting together and it would be in there. I
Speaker 1: remember one of my favorite I mean, you and I
Speaker 1: had some I mean I'm not just saying this because
Speaker 1: you're here, man, I I genuinely think, and no offense, Donald,
Speaker 1: I love you to death, but I thought, I genuinely
Speaker 1: think you've probably made me laugh harder than anyone else
Speaker 1: on earth.
Speaker 2: Well wow, okay, then I remember I remember an episode
Speaker 2: and they wound up changing the episode. But the storyline
Speaker 2: between the two of you was about a piece of
Speaker 2: fruit and that you had never tried before, that that
Speaker 2: the janitor had never tried before. And the whole storyline
Speaker 2: was you finally getting this fruit at the end of
Speaker 2: the show and tasting the fruit, and and I don't
Speaker 2: remember where it went after that, but I just remember
Speaker 2: you doing a bunch of really funny things about fruit,
Speaker 2: and then they changed it to like a scooter or
Speaker 2: some shit like that. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 5: Oh, you remember this reminds me yesterday because Zach sent
Speaker 5: me an episode of this thing to Live Listen with
Speaker 5: John McGinley. Yeah, and it came up, what episode wasn't
Speaker 5: the Janitor in? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Was that the episode that is it cups?
Speaker 5: Yes, I think I because there was an outtake of
Speaker 5: me wiping out on a scooter coming in the front door.
Speaker 5: Of the hospital, but that had never aired because I
Speaker 5: was That was the first season and I was edited
Speaker 5: out of it, and that's the only time that happened.
Speaker 2: I knew it. I knew, I knew it.
Speaker 1: I knew I knew as the worst memory in the world.
Speaker 1: Remembered something because I thought, I thought the story was
Speaker 1: so funny.
Speaker 2: The fruit story was so funny, and it was like
Speaker 2: a peach or a plump, and you kept improvising different
Speaker 2: fruits when.
Speaker 5: You were telling that story. I have and I still
Speaker 5: have no memory whatsoever of a fruit and a plot
Speaker 5: line about fruit because I wasn't in it, so I
Speaker 5: blocked it out of my.
Speaker 1: SPIKEE Neil one of my favorite I have two favorite
Speaker 1: moments that always come into mind when I think of
Speaker 1: laughing with you. The first is in the Wizard of
Speaker 1: Oz episode when you and I did this whole long
Speaker 1: riff about about seeing a manatee under the hospital, and
Speaker 1: then you said, I said, is there some sort of
Speaker 1: underground canal system or something? I think I I think
Speaker 1: I saw a manatee And you said, was his name Julian?
Speaker 1: And then I said, I don't know. We we didn't
Speaker 1: exchange pleasantries, and you go, that's Julian.
Speaker 5: That was good. The writers though, I don't know, no.
Speaker 1: No, that was all me and you just being silly again.
Speaker 1: It was one of those things where we were like,
Speaker 1: I don't think this is ever going to be in
Speaker 1: the show, but we were just cracking each other up
Speaker 1: about there's a manatee under the hospital and has a name,
Speaker 1: and you you're familiar with his social behavior.
Speaker 5: This is what I'm talking about, being able to wing it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I couldn't have thrown that in in the middle. I
Speaker 5: was working on Corey Mike. It was good. There's a
Speaker 5: man he lives underground one that yeah, you do, go ahead,
Speaker 5: it's uh, it's it's this.
Speaker 6: It's finger thumb finger.
Speaker 1: If you guys want to watch on the on the
Speaker 1: scrubs gag reel blipper reel that you can find on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I forgot what season it is. But Neil, the janitor
Speaker 1: as wife had made me scrubs short shorts and and
Speaker 1: he's like, look, I really want you to wear these
Speaker 1: two work, and I'm like, I'm like, I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm a doctor. I can't wear short shorts to work.
Speaker 5: A pair of scrubs cut off really high.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so high like my balls would have
Speaker 1: hung out of them. And then Neil goes, the good
Speaker 1: Lord didn't bless my wife with all ten fingers. She
Speaker 1: only has pointer on one hand and thumb pinky on
Speaker 1: the other, meaning that that it had been really hard
Speaker 1: for her to make these short shorts, and I was
Speaker 1: disrespecting her. I didn't wear them, and I just couldn't
Speaker 1: make it through. I could not make it through with
Speaker 1: with Neil going pointer and thumbinky.
Speaker 5: That's, by the way I life. That probably doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, she didn't. She didn't exist because you get
Speaker 2: married at the end of the at.
Speaker 1: The end of this true, that's true. And Neil, you know, Neil,
Speaker 1: we've been joking this first season. It's down like, you know,
Speaker 1: we haven't seen these in twenty years, and as I'm
Speaker 1: sure you haven't. And you know Bill, you know one
Speaker 1: of the Bill isms that he always says is, you know,
Speaker 1: I was debating season one if the Janitor was just
Speaker 1: gonna be a figment of JD's imagination. Well, every episode
Speaker 1: we go through, for the most part, we see little
Speaker 1: moments where the Janitor does interact with other people, and
Speaker 1: every time we bring it up to Bill, We're like, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're holding onto that, but you know, you know, in
Speaker 1: this episode, the janitor, you know, for example, in this one,
Speaker 1: he offers two baseball tickets. Sorry, Franklin god Better, who
Speaker 1: who is one of our assistant directors, is playing the
Speaker 1: the the actor who sees Neil with the two tickets
Speaker 1: and says I'll go, and Neil's like, not you. And
Speaker 1: it's like another example of like, okay, well then other
Speaker 1: people will see the janitor.
Speaker 5: Bill, I watched that yesterday, that that was a moment
Speaker 5: that was added to the script that wasn't in there. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and that you part for Franklin.
Speaker 1: I think that might be the one of the only
Speaker 1: times I mean you might.
Speaker 2: Now he dressed up like the bunny. Remember Franklin dressed
Speaker 2: up like a bunny.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not I'm not saying that Franklin wasn't in
Speaker 1: the show more. I'm saying where it's a really funny
Speaker 1: moment where Neil goes, uh, what do you want to
Speaker 1: what do you want to go to a baseball game
Speaker 1: and have popcorn? And then Gg walks away like stop
Speaker 1: messing with me, and then he pulls the two tickets
Speaker 1: out of his shirt. He's like the last time I
Speaker 1: reached out and I was laughing out loud, going, do
Speaker 1: you think that's the only time in Scrubs history that
Speaker 1: the janitor ever like made a genuine appeal to JD?
Speaker 1: Very hot?
Speaker 5: You know what if watching that, I thought, I don't
Speaker 5: think I played that right because I said it very sarcastically.
Speaker 5: So of course you walked away. You know, we want
Speaker 5: to do go to a baseball game and we get up,
Speaker 5: But I probably should have said, well, would you like
Speaker 5: to go to a baseball game with me and we
Speaker 5: can share popcorn? I mean, it's something that sounds a
Speaker 5: little bit more sincere.
Speaker 1: Right, But JD had to you know, it had to
Speaker 1: be on the line because JD had to be like,
Speaker 1: stop fucking with me, roll his eyes and walk away.
Speaker 5: Right, Or maybe the janitor just has no skill at
Speaker 5: offering an invitation. They all come out very sarcasting, right,
Speaker 5: would you like to come to a party with me?
Speaker 5: I guess would you marry me? Please?
Speaker 1: So what was the troop that you were doing improv
Speaker 1: with Neil that Bill saw you early in the early days.
Speaker 5: We were called beer shark Mice and it was at
Speaker 5: the Io West, which no longer exists a theater, but
Speaker 5: we must have done it for as it turns out,
Speaker 5: fifteen eighteen years something like that. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: We throw out the names real quick. Pete Honey, Dave Keckner,
Speaker 5: Pat Finn, Mike Coleman, Paul Valancourt. I hope I didn't
Speaker 5: forget anybody when I first moved out here, removed out
Speaker 5: here after five years in Chicago. We had been doing
Speaker 5: it out of theater in Chicago. Not the same group,
Speaker 5: but all those individuals with different and he'd only put
Speaker 5: just put a group together out here when they aw
Speaker 5: Sharon who owns it, opened up a branch out here,
Speaker 5: and we all had a virtually nothing to do. Nobody's
Speaker 5: career was rolling, and so that's what that's what we
Speaker 5: did all the time. That was maybe in.
Speaker 1: And what was that? Was there a specific game or
Speaker 1: that you guys would play or structure of your.
Speaker 5: Improv Uh no, not really, but we didn't do games.
Speaker 5: That's a different approach. It was there's something called a
Speaker 5: herald that is a long form. We would get out there,
Speaker 5: takes yestion and go for half hour. Yeah, and we
Speaker 5: didn't do that, but it was along those lines, just
Speaker 5: take a suggestion and then the audience has done particularly,
Speaker 5: that's amazing. You just rolled for half far. It was
Speaker 5: a good group, and it was it's not necessarily dead now,
Speaker 5: but it was great fun and a great thing to do,
Speaker 5: and I enjoyed doing it. And then after a while
Speaker 5: sometimes they still want to do a show, and I say,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm closing in on sixty years old. I
Speaker 5: don't think I was twenty five. I wasn't interested in
Speaker 5: saying sixty year olds entertainment in any way.
Speaker 1: Oh, I have no doubt that you would sell out.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: People love seeing you, and you were so good at it.
Speaker 1: I mean I remember thinking that when we're doing Scrubs,
Speaker 1: that that just cracking up with the stuff you would
Speaker 1: come up with and going out. I would love to
Speaker 1: go see one of your improv shows. We may have
Speaker 1: gone on when we weren't involved. There no, just maybe
Speaker 1: he came with when.
Speaker 2: We were doing when we were doing scrubs. Were you
Speaker 2: doing this show too? Were you doing the improv show?
Speaker 5: Want?
Speaker 1: I feel like I must have come once.
Speaker 5: I don't think you did, because I didn't, you know,
Speaker 5: feel strongly about this. But people had heard that this
Speaker 5: was going on and it went on for all the
Speaker 5: years of the Scrubs, and so people would often I
Speaker 5: don't know if they're just striking up a conversation or
Speaker 5: being you know, they really meant it when you do
Speaker 5: that show years? What time it like for the literally
Speaker 5: like for the fiftieth time, I'm saying to somebody, Saturday night,
Speaker 5: eight o'clock, I owe theater, and as far as I recall,
Speaker 5: no one ever came. So I got tired of being asked.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, I didn't end. I don't
Speaker 5: need anybody to come, but the house's full.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw a video or something I saw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we did. We saw a video. Bill
Speaker 2: showed us a video.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it was. Bill was sort of was
Speaker 1: showing us a video of you. And because I feel
Speaker 1: like I have a somewhere in my brain memory.
Speaker 2: Yea, and there was you and somebody on stage and
Speaker 2: it was like, uh, where you were a drill not
Speaker 2: a drill sergeant, but something like that, where you were
Speaker 2: an army and I just remember it a long time.
Speaker 1: It was you remember that improv from twenty years ago?
Speaker 5: Right? Yeah, that's uh, no one ever. Maybe it's possible,
Speaker 5: but pretty much you never remember seeing someone will say,
Speaker 5: I shay you guys, don'verybody once you were firement and
Speaker 5: I don't I remember that?
Speaker 1: Shall we get into the show, So, Neil, what we
Speaker 1: do is we just kind of talked through the episode
Speaker 1: and point out things that made us laugh or or
Speaker 1: or or just any thoughts we have. But we should
Speaker 1: probably take a break, right, Joelle, I got a break, Neil.
Speaker 1: This is a real show. We have commercials and.
Speaker 5: Shit, I know I heard. I'm very impressed.
Speaker 1: Yes, no joking around when it comes to being real, right, Donald,
Speaker 1: I mean, now this is the real deal. This is
Speaker 1: like a real radio show.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean a real podcast, a real podcast. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's how you want to.
Speaker 1: All right, tell the people we'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Donald, you already did.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll be right back. Alrighty, we're back. We're with
Speaker 1: Neil Flynn. Everybody the people spoke, they said Neil Flynn,
Speaker 1: bring on Neil Flynn, and we got him.
Speaker 5: Has everybody else been here? Uh? You are? No.
Speaker 1: Ken has not been on the Jenkins, But we've had
Speaker 1: the other lead cast members.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had Judy on, We've had Johnny on, We've
Speaker 2: had Sarah on. We now have you on?
Speaker 5: We had Bill on Christa, you know, speaking of Ken Jenkins.
Speaker 5: I am just but you know when we started the show,
Speaker 5: he was the old guy. Yeah without you, no offense,
Speaker 5: but clearly yeah, that's how we thought of him. And
Speaker 5: you even more than I because you're younger than I am.
Speaker 5: I'm almost that age.
Speaker 2: You're almost the age.
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm months away. And I think Johnny ce' is
Speaker 5: a little older than me, so I think he probably
Speaker 5: is that age. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, I haven't since I haven't seen well.
Speaker 2: The last time I saw him was when we did
Speaker 2: the uh the reunion thing. He looked great, and he
Speaker 2: looked amazing. Yeah, I want.
Speaker 1: To get him to come on this. When we did
Speaker 1: some we had some sort of group email about hey,
Speaker 1: do you guys want to do X, Y or Z
Speaker 1: and and everyone was like sure, sure, sure, you know
Speaker 1: we we almost all always say yes because it means
Speaker 1: we get to all get together and have a drink
Speaker 1: and make each other laugh. And and Ken was like
Speaker 1: I'm moving. I I've got a lot going on. And
Speaker 1: I was like my feelings were I mean, I know
Speaker 1: it wasn't personal, but I was old like, Ken, you
Speaker 1: know you can you can take a couple of hours
Speaker 1: off from moving and comes oude to us. But nah,
Speaker 1: I got a lot going on.
Speaker 2: I got ship to do. It sounds it sounds like work.
Speaker 2: I got shipped to do.
Speaker 1: And then and it was kind of a Kurt goodbye.
Speaker 1: It was like it was like very Kelso was liked,
Speaker 1: but good to hear from you all.
Speaker 5: I remember that. But I find it interesting that it
Speaker 5: was an email and you've put a voice to it
Speaker 5: of a grouchy old man.
Speaker 1: The funny thing is about like people always ask you, like,
Speaker 1: what what people cast members are like? And I said
Speaker 1: the most different from his character was Ken Jenkins, because
Speaker 1: he was the sweetest man you ever met in your
Speaker 1: whole life, and he was playing this you know, tough jerk.
Speaker 5: Yes, And I noticed that on the episode that it
Speaker 5: was early on obviously the first season, and everyone was
Speaker 5: still a little bit one dimensional. I don't want to
Speaker 5: say that's not exactly true, but Ken was. I'm like,
Speaker 5: look how mean Ken is being? Like in the pilot
Speaker 5: when he turned into a demon for a minute, he
Speaker 5: was still in that mode of well, guess what sport?
Speaker 5: Nobody cares that sort of thing. By the end, he
Speaker 5: was like this kindly old doddering man's having a nice uff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also at the bar and the Bahamas, like
Speaker 1: you know, he began I think Bill finally, like evell
Speaker 1: one episode. Early on here in season one, we showed
Speaker 1: that back he back in the day, used to write
Speaker 1: love songs on the guitar to his wife. I think
Speaker 1: Bill was beginning to plant seeds of him having a
Speaker 1: softer side. But you're right, by the end of the season.
Speaker 1: By the end of the show, he was a sweetheart.
Speaker 5: Or more of a seat and uh like Ted was
Speaker 5: sort of his best friend, wasn't he.
Speaker 2: They were like at the end of the show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in this one he calls him Ned.
Speaker 1: He's still all these years that we assume that that
Speaker 1: Ted has been working for him, he still doesn't know
Speaker 1: his name. He calls him Ned.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that went away. I mean, yeah, they became
Speaker 5: kind of buddies.
Speaker 2: I found it very crazy. I thought it was crazy
Speaker 2: that Ted has been plotting against Kelso.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so long he's hired hit man.
Speaker 2: He's right, He's like, I know a hit man. You
Speaker 2: and I we can do it.
Speaker 1: That was a really funny part of this episode where
Speaker 1: we have that long, uncomfortable laugh because he mentions that
Speaker 1: he knows a guy who can end it all, and
Speaker 1: then we have that long, uncomfortable laugh and then he's like, no, seriously,
Speaker 1: just one phone call. So that means that Sammy has
Speaker 1: sam Ted has found a He's got a hit man
Speaker 1: ready to go whenever the time is right.
Speaker 2: He just needs somebody to He needs somebody to be like, no,
Speaker 2: you're right, we should kill this fucker.
Speaker 5: He just needs it. Yeah, someone's second. The emotion it was,
Speaker 5: I hadn't seen Sam's face since he passed away, and
Speaker 5: it was nice, but you know, strange, see Sam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we've been we've been talking about that on
Speaker 1: the podcast and and how obviously it's caused me to
Speaker 1: look even closer at his work on the show and
Speaker 1: just how incredibly funny he was. We recently just watched
Speaker 1: an episode where he and Judy. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember this one, Neil or he and Judy serenade
Speaker 1: a patient and sing this beautiful harmony together and it
Speaker 1: was so moving. I mean, obviously because he passed away,
Speaker 1: but it just it just really it just really just
Speaker 1: drove it home how how incredibly talented a guy he was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was his character added a nice came in handy.
Speaker 5: You know, the so many shows that succeed, I think
Speaker 5: build a world of supporting characters and that you can
Speaker 5: go to or just like probably number one would be
Speaker 5: The Simpsons. They have like a poster and there's two
Speaker 5: hundred recognizable characters in that. Yeah. Of course, give me
Speaker 5: thirty years and maybe I could do that too with
Speaker 5: a TV show. They've had a lot of time to
Speaker 5: add characters. But but Scribbers did a good job of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know Bill, Bill always called him his assassins,
Speaker 1: those people like you know Bob Condenen or Matt Winston,
Speaker 1: or or Phil Lewis who played Hooge, Rob Mashio who
Speaker 1: be Kate. Well Rob had a bigger part than those guys.
Speaker 1: But I mean just mean, like you know, think about
Speaker 1: Phil Lewis who came on and would do I don't
Speaker 1: know how many episodes he did total, but.
Speaker 5: He's directing now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's yeah, he's doing very well as a Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if if this happens to you, Donald,
Speaker 1: but I'll be walking down the street and people say, hey,
Speaker 1: love on the Showhoch is crazy, and it's it's like
Speaker 1: a little slogan about Phil Lewis's character, and he must
Speaker 1: have done like a handful. I mean that's the amount
Speaker 1: of influence. Sorry, that's the amount of impact he had
Speaker 1: on fans because they were just like they loved him
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 2: Well, remember it started off as Turner and Hooch, where
Speaker 2: Tom Hanks's brother came on as Turner and Phil Lewis
Speaker 2: played Hooch and they had this whole little adventure that
Speaker 2: they went on together as Turner and Hooch in the
Speaker 2: hospital they got Yeah, they somehow got paired together. One
Speaker 2: of them was a medical doc and one of them
Speaker 2: was a surgeon, and they would tag team a bunch
Speaker 2: of patients.
Speaker 1: Right, and if it was a play elaborate way for
Speaker 1: the writers to get a Turner and Hoo's show it.
Speaker 2: Right, but they got Tom Hanks's brother to play the
Speaker 2: Turner character just like in the movie. Right, And then
Speaker 2: somehow it turned into this whole story with Phil coming
Speaker 2: back as this crazy ass doctor. But when it originally happens,
Speaker 2: the two of them are you know, he's not crazy
Speaker 2: or anything like that. Then it turned into it turned
Speaker 2: into us joking around like, oh who just crazy? Who
Speaker 2: just so crazy? And then by the end of it
Speaker 2: is not that.
Speaker 1: Genuinely crazy people people love that, but no, no, no,
Speaker 1: not joking.
Speaker 5: Who is fucking dangerous? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like and then and then there was an episode where
Speaker 1: you put like someone was it me? Or you put
Speaker 1: bullyon cubes in the shower head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which funny y'all put in the shower
Speaker 2: and we're sitting there trying.
Speaker 1: Like he's like I want.
Speaker 2: Him with him with the crack lighter that goes like
Speaker 2: you know six.
Speaker 1: That's a very popular gift. I always use hooch with
Speaker 1: like a six inch lighter flame.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, you remember a funny thing about Tom
Speaker 1: Hanks's brother who was on the show. He did the
Speaker 1: voice for one of the toy story things, not not
Speaker 1: the not the movies, but like I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was like a book or or something. Yeah, something
Speaker 1: that Tom Hanks couldn't be bothered to do, and he
Speaker 1: he had a similar voice, so so he would just
Speaker 1: throw him you know, I guess being generous to his brother,
Speaker 1: like here, you do some of this stuff, and uh
Speaker 1: And I just remember learning for the first time that
Speaker 1: then you know that he that he did some of
Speaker 1: the non movie stuff that's amazing. A little trivia for
Speaker 1: you out.
Speaker 2: There, Just a little trivia.
Speaker 1: Elliott is into some kinky stuff, right, I mean, I
Speaker 1: just realized that this is a runner through the series.
Speaker 1: This episode opens up with her talking to Scott Foley
Speaker 1: about being wanting to be called a bad girl, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna go shopping or stop by her house for
Speaker 1: a schoolgirl outfit. And then I just started thinking about
Speaker 1: all these times in the in the series where Elliott's
Speaker 1: got some some some some kink. She likes to role play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she likes it, the dirty stuff. She like it,
Speaker 2: the dirty talk. I think that's even one of my
Speaker 2: lines in the show. Oh she likeed the dirty talk
Speaker 2: really this episode. No, not in this episode, but like
Speaker 2: later on in the series, I know, I say something, and.
Speaker 1: Then later on when she and Folly are making out,
Speaker 1: she's like say intercourse, like she's got these weird kings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's I I yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 1: There was one where I was like an apple thief.
Speaker 1: I had to be. I was a part of one
Speaker 1: of their I don't know if that was a fantasy
Speaker 1: or if it was real, but there was.
Speaker 2: One where she climbed up on top of me on
Speaker 2: on one of the on a surgical table.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a fantasy though, That was a fantasy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course.
Speaker 6: Do you remember she had a nurse thing on a
Speaker 6: cross things and they had to post they had to
Speaker 6: change it to green because no, you don't use the
Speaker 6: Red crosses.
Speaker 1: Oh that's funny.
Speaker 2: That's a little bit of trivia.
Speaker 1: You can't have sex on a surgical table with the
Speaker 1: red cross up. We're not going to approve that.
Speaker 2: But if you got the green one, which is the
Speaker 2: medical marijuana one, it's all good. It's all good.
Speaker 1: Now, it's funny. The Green Cross in the UK just
Speaker 1: means pharmacy or normal pharmacy. And now you live in
Speaker 1: we live in California. For those of you who don't
Speaker 1: have dispensaries, wherever you are, everywhere there's a medical dispensary,
Speaker 1: recreational or or or medical. It's the Green Cross. So
Speaker 1: it's funny. When I first moved and spent some time
Speaker 1: in London, I was like, wow, they have a lot
Speaker 1: of dispensary on every corner.
Speaker 2: I laughed out loud at Alma, right, bring hey, I hope,
Speaker 2: let's make this quick. I got tickets to bring in
Speaker 2: a noise bringing the funk, and I don't want to
Speaker 2: miss the noise.
Speaker 1: Loma.
Speaker 5: She had a couple of good lines in that episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she really, she really does nail it every time. Now,
Speaker 2: like you, you're absolutely right about the cast of characters
Speaker 2: that came after the Core seven, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like everyone always seemed to nail their jokes, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And and and it's it's a
Speaker 2: I don't know if Bill had a thing where it's like,
Speaker 2: if you didn't nail the jokes, she didn't come back.
Speaker 2: But that is kind of the thing.
Speaker 1: If you're not funny, you're not coming back.
Speaker 2: I would love to know the people that he had.
Speaker 1: We don't want to We don't want him out of.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm not gonna put on this is conversation to
Speaker 2: have with him one at another time. But I would know.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you can know in your head there
Speaker 1: were there were people that that could have easily what
Speaker 1: happened with Neil is is the ultimate example.
Speaker 2: Neil.
Speaker 1: Neil was in the pilot and Bill was like, I'm
Speaker 1: making this guy series regular. Whereas whereas there's people who
Speaker 1: did one or two and he's like, all right, well
Speaker 1: it was nice meeting you. Yeah, what about you skipped
Speaker 1: something and I wanted to talk to you about it.
Speaker 1: When when Judy touches your belly and goes bink and
Speaker 1: who's she goes, who's your new friend?
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't want to that.
Speaker 1: Oh you wanted to skip that?
Speaker 2: I didn't want to skip it. But you know, I
Speaker 2: when I when I was watching the show, I was like,
Speaker 2: and this is where my eating habits changed, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, but but I have a question because I think
Speaker 1: it's just a story point. Because when they cut to
Speaker 1: you later running with Johnny C and you're in the gym,
Speaker 1: you look fit as hell. So this didn't come out
Speaker 1: of the writers being like, oh, Donald's gained a few
Speaker 1: did it?
Speaker 2: Listen? Didn't look like you had listen back then. I
Speaker 2: was one hundred and seventy five pounds when we started
Speaker 2: the show, right, I got up to one hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety pounds, and everybody I could feel the you know
Speaker 2: where my clothes didn't fit the same and.
Speaker 1: Everything like that season Why does this happen?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Around season one, you know, you get comfortable when
Speaker 2: you're working and stuff like that, and I remember thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, wow, I guess I look big on camera now.
Speaker 2: And you know, I remember dieting and doing all of
Speaker 2: these things right, and at one point, I, you know,
Speaker 2: I guess I gained some weight. But this was this
Speaker 2: became an issue for me as time went on where
Speaker 2: I didn't think about weight up until scrubgs like, I
Speaker 2: didn't give a shit about how I looked or how
Speaker 2: I was perceived. I didn't, you know, I just I
Speaker 2: ate what I wanted to and you know, I worked
Speaker 2: out a shit ton. But then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: it became okay, no, you have to work to maintain
Speaker 2: this weight for the show or it's gonna be in
Speaker 2: the script.
Speaker 1: And people, wait, so so did anyone ever say anything
Speaker 1: to you like you need to lose weight?
Speaker 2: No? But I once heard and I'm gonna call Sarah
Speaker 2: out on this, but I once heard Sarah. You know,
Speaker 2: while we were filming talking to a bunch of people
Speaker 2: like yo, somebody hit me up on a chat line
Speaker 2: and was like, yo, is Donald Faison on a Krispy
Speaker 2: Kreme diet? And I was like yo, And I remember
Speaker 2: being like, yeah, I am on a Krispy Kreme diet,
Speaker 2: but it gives a shit, dude.
Speaker 1: It's funny because the story of Turk in the show
Speaker 1: is that doctors get so busy they don't have time
Speaker 1: to exercise. They're stress eating, and it's kind of what
Speaker 1: happened to you as an actor on the show. We
Speaker 1: had crazy hours. There's a giant craft service table with donuts,
Speaker 1: and you know.
Speaker 2: And I love first of all, I love donuts. Let's
Speaker 2: let's keep it one hundred, like, is that your favorite thing?
Speaker 2: For my birthday, my wife bought me a donut machine.
Speaker 5: Dude.
Speaker 2: You think I'm fucking bullshitting. She went on Amazon and
Speaker 2: got me a commercial grade donut making machine, dude.
Speaker 1: And I found they go down like the little just.
Speaker 2: Like at Krispy Kreme. And I was like, you got
Speaker 2: that shit and she was like yeah. I was like,
Speaker 2: we got to look at the dimensions on how big
Speaker 2: this thing is. This shit's like fifty six inches, like
Speaker 2: it's like a six foot whatever six feet is. It's
Speaker 2: like a six foot long track and it makes donut.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make like one donut at a time, it
Speaker 2: makes like seven, It makes a dozen donuts at a
Speaker 2: fucking time. Dude, and I'm like, holy shit. I even
Speaker 2: sent her. I was like, Babe, is there a way
Speaker 2: that we can return this? And she was like yeah,
Speaker 2: but it has to get here first. Now I know me.
Speaker 2: Once it gets here, I'm gonna make donuts on thathing.
Speaker 1: It hasn't come yet.
Speaker 2: It hasn't come yet.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: The way it happened was because I'm going through Amazon.
Speaker 2: And you know how once you once you buy something
Speaker 2: on Amazon, it hits you with if you like this,
Speaker 2: if you since you bought this, you know you might
Speaker 2: like this. And I was like, hold up, why are
Speaker 2: all these donut machines showing up?
Speaker 1: Well, that's not gonna help you, diet, bro, if you
Speaker 1: have a donut machine in your house.
Speaker 2: I've come up with a I come up with an
Speaker 2: idea on what I want to do with this with
Speaker 2: said donut machine, what I am going to make Donnie's donuts, Okay,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna sell donuts to the masses. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I'll sell about you know, it makes like a dozen
Speaker 2: donuts at a time. I'll sell I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: five dozen donuts a day.
Speaker 1: Okay, out the out of your front door.
Speaker 2: Not out of the front door. I'll do it on
Speaker 2: sets or something like that where i'll you know where
Speaker 2: I'll you know, if you have a and you're.
Speaker 1: Not gonna have the charity, you're just gonna pocket that money, right,
Speaker 1: this is your side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I gotta pay for that donut machine. That
Speaker 2: shit costs a lot of money. I know my wife
Speaker 2: bought it for me, but you know it comes out
Speaker 2: of my motherfucking pocket.
Speaker 1: Now, don't funny. I never realized until now. Is like
Speaker 1: when you have a joint bank account with your wife
Speaker 1: and or your partner whatever, and they give you like
Speaker 1: a really expensive present, is part of you like, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: but what the fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I'm sure my wife thinks that way too, Like how
Speaker 2: much the first thing she says every time I buy something?
Speaker 2: How much did it costs? Don't worry about it? Don't
Speaker 2: worry about you know, don't you worry about it. I've looked,
Speaker 2: I got I had the opportunity to see how much
Speaker 2: the donut machine costs.
Speaker 1: Because I can't wait to see the commercial doughnut machine
Speaker 1: in your house.
Speaker 2: When this is all said and done, I invite you
Speaker 2: all over, come over, I'll make donuts for you.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I didn't realize it was a sore
Speaker 1: spot for you and uh so, But anyway, it was
Speaker 1: written in the script that Turk has gained some pounds.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well it turns out that Turk gets diabetes too because
Speaker 2: of his eating habits, and you know me like yeah,
Speaker 2: like uh yeah. Later on Turk gets diabetes. Literally my diabetes,
Speaker 2: my diabetes. But I remember thinking, you know, your real
Speaker 2: life would somehow wind it like I don't have diabetes,
Speaker 2: but your real life would somehow wind its way up
Speaker 2: into the script, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 2: remember I started I was losing my hair at a
Speaker 2: very young age. And Bill wrote into the script the
Speaker 2: reason why Turk doesn't grow his hair out is because
Speaker 2: it's patchy. And I remember being like, oh, hold on,
Speaker 2: I just your head, not so much in the front,
Speaker 2: not so much on the front, but like on the sides.
Speaker 1: He just has a big, big, receding hairline. But it
Speaker 1: looks good anyway. I like the way it looks. He
Speaker 1: just made me think you could do a mohawk, which
Speaker 1: would be cool.
Speaker 2: It would be like really thin in the front and
Speaker 2: then it would get really thick in the back though,
Speaker 2: which was not really the dopest mohawk on the planet.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I remember being I remember him doing that
Speaker 2: and being like, wait, hold on a second, Bill thinks
Speaker 2: I can't grow hair, and I not legitim. So there's
Speaker 2: like a there's like six episodes where Turk has a
Speaker 2: full head of hair just because I was like, there's
Speaker 2: no way I'm gonna let anybody think that I can't
Speaker 2: grow noith Like it became personal at some points, and
Speaker 2: this was one of those moments with the donut where
Speaker 2: it was like, when I was watching, I was like
Speaker 2: in this that I think this is where it all
Speaker 2: went down where I started to realize, Oh, I have
Speaker 2: to be in a certain shape for things. I have
Speaker 2: to look a certain way because before that I didn't
Speaker 2: care about it and I was still working right.
Speaker 1: Well, don't you feel that way now?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 1: Still when you when you get jobs that like when
Speaker 1: you did when you run Immergions for a year, did
Speaker 1: you feel like that you wanted to be in good
Speaker 1: shape for the camera?
Speaker 2: No, I just wanted to look fresh in the face
Speaker 2: for camera. Like these are things that I've like, I've
Speaker 2: learned that my drinking habits and my marijuana habits have
Speaker 2: made it so that, you know, if I don't take
Speaker 2: time off from it, you can see it in my face,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I look at pictures at
Speaker 2: us when we were kids and and when we would
Speaker 2: go to the parties and everything like that, and we'd
Speaker 2: drink at the parties, and you could literally see in
Speaker 2: our faces and pictures. Yeah, those guys are fucking wasted.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And as I've gotten older, that's lasted much longer than it.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. If I drink on Tuesday,
Speaker 2: you know, I gotta wait until like Friday, until it's
Speaker 2: all gone out of my out of my face, so
Speaker 2: I have, you know, real big bags under my eyes.
Speaker 2: And same thing with smoking. So when I went and
Speaker 2: did emergence, I cut out all booze and alcohol for
Speaker 2: for for a long period of time. I mean boos
Speaker 2: in marijuana for a long period of time.
Speaker 5: And I don't know what one did.
Speaker 2: No one didn't no, no, no one watched it.
Speaker 5: It didn't emerge, it did.
Speaker 2: It didn't emerge the way the way I wanted to.
Speaker 1: You know, Neil, both Donald and I, as you know,
Speaker 1: because you helped me with some press, which I really appreciate.
Speaker 1: As you know, Donald and I both had ABC shows
Speaker 1: and unlike the Middle, they both completely bombed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't make it? Was it the Medal? Was
Speaker 2: the ABC show?
Speaker 5: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Was it?
Speaker 2: ABC Studios? Also Born and Brothers Warner Brothers, Warner Brothers
Speaker 2: for ABC.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We were ABC for NBC or originally and NBC
Speaker 2: was like, no, we're going to pass on it, and
Speaker 2: ABC was like, oh, well we'll pick it up. And
Speaker 2: we went a full season.
Speaker 1: And are you still sad about it? How are you
Speaker 1: feeling about it?
Speaker 2: I'm fine? You know, I how long?
Speaker 1: How long? Like how long do you pout about something
Speaker 1: like that? Well, like I have bad news, I think
Speaker 1: I pout for like a few days and I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, fuge it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't pout that long about this one. I loved
Speaker 2: the show, and I loved the cast members, and I
Speaker 2: loved working with everyone. But it was in Jersey and
Speaker 2: not that I have something not that I have something
Speaker 2: wrong with Jersey, but coming out of a pandemic and
Speaker 2: going back to work in New Jersey and leaving.
Speaker 1: On behalf of the Garden State. I think the point
Speaker 1: is that you didn't want to be separated from your family.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that like let me if you, if you let
Speaker 2: me finish coming out of a pandemic and going back
Speaker 2: to Jersey, which I had a great time in Jersey
Speaker 2: and I love Jersey and leaving my kids back in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles again, it would fuck them up, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 5: I understand that I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to uh
Speaker 5: do a show in another state. Maybe the time will come,
Speaker 5: but I think I don't know.
Speaker 1: I agree Neil, I I wouldn't. I would do a
Speaker 1: film obviously anywhere, but I wouldn't sign on. I don't think,
Speaker 1: and I mean I'll mark mark my words. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there'll be an occasion where I might change my mind,
Speaker 1: but right now I think to commit long term to something,
Speaker 1: it would be New York or LA where where I'm
Speaker 1: based and I have you know, and I'm I'm like Donald,
Speaker 1: I don't have kids yet, but I'm still in a
Speaker 1: place where I don't. I don't want to go move
Speaker 1: to to Stad where I always choose DoD as my
Speaker 1: random city. It's it's a I believe it's a ski
Speaker 1: town in Switzerland.
Speaker 2: It's straight out of coming, a trading place places where
Speaker 2: dan Ackroyd's at the pawn shop trying to sell the watch,
Speaker 2: and the dude's like fifty bucks. He's like fifty bucks. No,
Speaker 2: this is at such and such. It tells time in
Speaker 2: New York, London, La and stud.
Speaker 1: I think it's like the Aspen of the Alps. It's
Speaker 1: like a fancy ski town, which, by by the way,
Speaker 1: it was a horrible example for my story because I
Speaker 1: should have picked a place no one wants to live.
Speaker 1: Maybe I would like to live in the Aspen of
Speaker 1: the Alps. Are going to take a quick break and
Speaker 1: then Neil, we take a guest with the show. Who's
Speaker 1: gonna have an awesome question for one of us?
Speaker 2: I'll bet we watch how with that?
Speaker 5: And I like that theme. By the way, it's very churchy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, we speaking of churchy. Dude. Do you
Speaker 2: remember the church episode where we did it in the
Speaker 2: hospital cafeteria and you had the freaking uh straw hat?
Speaker 5: What was it?
Speaker 2: What kind of hat is that where it's like a
Speaker 2: straw hat? Really go with it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you had, Neil. I think you had
Speaker 1: a tambourine.
Speaker 2: As I recall that could be golly, Samuel Centers in
Speaker 2: the house.
Speaker 1: That's Samuel Center Joelle, do you have any special introduction
Speaker 1: you want to make up Samuel Center? Or should we
Speaker 1: just start talking to Samuel Center?
Speaker 3: Just get right on into it.
Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, Samuel Wall.
Speaker 7: Beautiful people, this is crazy.
Speaker 5: It is crazy.
Speaker 2: You are a professional dude. You came with the mic
Speaker 2: popping thing.
Speaker 1: Donald needs one of those because he spits everywhere.
Speaker 2: So I have a spit problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan, can you get Samuel has for those of
Speaker 1: you listening, has one of those very fancy circle things
Speaker 1: you put in front of a mic, and and Donald
Speaker 1: needs one of those dances.
Speaker 2: I have one. I have one.
Speaker 1: No, well, we need it. We need it now.
Speaker 5: It's probably called a spit guard or a yes shield.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: When I first saw the spit guard was in the
Speaker 1: We Are the World music video, and that's where I
Speaker 1: also sold that you were supposed to hold your headphones
Speaker 1: like this over one ear so you can hear ye,
Speaker 1: hear the harmonies.
Speaker 6: When you're down and out, if you care, If you
Speaker 6: think you look better without headphones on your head, I
Speaker 6: think that's how you hold the.
Speaker 2: Headphones, right, Yeah, Mike, Mike didn't want to mess up.
Speaker 1: The freaking right, Neil, All the people that knew they
Speaker 1: were shooting a video, were like, you know what, the
Speaker 1: home Man. But if you just believe we should do
Speaker 1: a Donald, we should do an episode of this where
Speaker 1: we recreate the video and we each take turns playing
Speaker 1: different characters in the song.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, man, I fucking did that as a kid.
Speaker 2: I used to do that as a kid. I could
Speaker 2: do it as an adults.
Speaker 1: I used to love that. I would watch that over
Speaker 1: and over and over again. Anyway, Sorry, Samuel, where are
Speaker 1: you calling?
Speaker 2: Samuel Center?
Speaker 1: Okay, it's Oprah. Where are you calling from, Samuel?
Speaker 7: I'm calling from a small town called Cloak in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Cloque, Minnesota. We got it the far North.
Speaker 1: Welcome. You have Neil Flynn with us today, and that's
Speaker 1: Donald doing his best Oprah. And and do you have
Speaker 1: a question for us anything? Ask us anything?
Speaker 7: Ask you anything? What happens when we die?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Wow, No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 7: I'm just kidding, don't you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, everybody. Can you play the music
Speaker 1: that drives it off?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, sam You've got a real question.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, I do I have a real question for you.
Speaker 7: First of all, thank you for all of the years
Speaker 7: of entertainment. This is such a thrill to meet you guys. No,
Speaker 7: it's incredible, thank you. So in terms of entertainment, you
Speaker 7: guys have been there for You've been in the business
Speaker 7: for so long and just seeing how things change, and
Speaker 7: it feels like people's attention spans are getting shorter and shorter.
Speaker 7: And mister Flynn, uh, such an improv comedy genius. And
Speaker 7: Zach you're a writer, and mister Faison, you just kind
Speaker 7: of embody what cool is to me. And you've been
Speaker 7: doing I mean since Clueless.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 7: My sister was big into Clueless, and I can't tell
Speaker 7: you how much I look up to you and have
Speaker 7: tried to emulate some of the style that you.
Speaker 2: Have accepted and received except.
Speaker 7: But as days have changed in people's attention spans have
Speaker 7: gotten shorter. How do you feel yourselves adapting as entertainers,
Speaker 7: writers and improv comedy people. Do you feel like you've
Speaker 7: had to shift the way you approach things or do
Speaker 7: you feel like you've kept it the same to just
Speaker 7: stay true to your art or how does that feel
Speaker 7: on your end?
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Know, they just came out with
Speaker 1: this service. As I understand, it isn't doing as well
Speaker 1: as anyone hoped called Quibi, which is basically like ten
Speaker 1: minute episodes you can watch on your phone, which I
Speaker 1: would have thought would do well because people are commuting
Speaker 1: and they're sitting in a doctor's office, and for all
Speaker 1: I know it will do well one day, but that
Speaker 1: I was thinking of of that service when you said that.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing I noticed is that whenever I do anything,
Speaker 1: if it's a TV show, if it's a film, if
Speaker 1: it's a music video, if it's a documentary, everyone writes
Speaker 1: me on Instagram when second be on Netflix. It's as
Speaker 1: though it's like the only thing most people watch anymore.
Speaker 1: So that's always on my mind. When I'm going out
Speaker 1: and I'm pitching a new idea, I'm always kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: I I you know, Netflix has so much content, but
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm thinking, like, I kind of want
Speaker 1: this to be on Netflix because that's what everybody seems
Speaker 1: to watch these days. Whenever you know, I'll I like you.
Speaker 1: When we were talking briefly about the ABC show I
Speaker 1: did alex Inca. It didn't didn't last or work that well,
Speaker 1: but I remember when I was promoting it, I was
Speaker 1: just doing anything I could to promote it. Anything, anything, anything,
Speaker 1: and then everyone was like, sounds great, Zach, when's it
Speaker 1: on Netflix? And I'm like, well, it's not. It's it's
Speaker 1: on ABC. It's it's not it's not gonna be on Netflix.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. That's what I just got thinking
Speaker 1: about that. What about you guys.
Speaker 5: I feel like it's, well, you know, while we're in
Speaker 5: this downtime, I'm trying to you know, I got a
Speaker 5: couple of other voices, trying to develop something, you know,
Speaker 5: to do when when we can start to work again. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And it's really I've never done that before. I've never
Speaker 5: helped create a show, but I feel like to start
Speaker 5: a new show now, I don't think attention spans are
Speaker 5: any order. Necessarily, people are watching stuff, it's just not
Speaker 5: the same stuff they used to watch. And there's more
Speaker 5: TV than there ever was, And I feel like, if
Speaker 5: you're going to start something from the ground up, you
Speaker 5: can't just do family living room multi cam, you know,
Speaker 5: it feels like that's gone. There has to be something
Speaker 5: a hook to the show. Yeah, and whether it's you know,
Speaker 5: I don't know what really shows they're doing with a
Speaker 5: period piece or you know, real people like I don't
Speaker 5: know the Kennedy's or something, or the Queens and Kings
Speaker 5: or something fantastical or outer space, or it just feels
Speaker 5: like you can't do that. The time has passed through
Speaker 5: the Johnson family.
Speaker 1: Although although, Neil, you just gave me a genius idea
Speaker 1: to do a traditional like living room sitcom, but it's
Speaker 1: Kings and Queen's in a castle.
Speaker 5: I would do it, except they live on like the
Speaker 5: set of the Cosby show, the Kings and Queen, but
Speaker 5: they just have a television.
Speaker 1: But they're they're royals, and they've transported from a from
Speaker 1: another era, but and they don't really know why they're there.
Speaker 1: But they live in this this you know, suburban house.
Speaker 5: That could work, or I could have worked in nineteen
Speaker 5: eighty six.
Speaker 1: You know, come on, man, if ALF could.
Speaker 5: Work, I was just gonna say ELF. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We talked about ALF extensively in one of these episodes,
Speaker 1: because I remember as a kid, a child, seeing a
Speaker 1: commercial for ALF and being like, that's so stupid. No
Speaker 1: one's gonna watch that, And then cut to me like
Speaker 1: riveted every week like watching ALF.
Speaker 5: You call that being kind of funny. I think it
Speaker 5: was a kind of a funny show.
Speaker 1: No, it was genius and Max Wright, who is hilarious, Yeah,
Speaker 1: played the father.
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Alf?
Speaker 1: And he notoriously hated being on a puppet show. He
Speaker 1: hated every second of it. Oh w he hated the puppet.
Speaker 2: Fuck that puppet.
Speaker 1: I would have woke off this set. Fuck you, out
Speaker 1: going trailer, Alf, Fuck you.
Speaker 2: This is a true story.
Speaker 7: Alf the puppet was actually my sleep paralysis demon from
Speaker 7: like age three to ten.
Speaker 5: Well, I didn't see sleep paralysis demon. What's it about?
Speaker 1: I have all their music? What is what is a
Speaker 1: sleep paralysis demon? For those of us who don't know?
Speaker 7: All right, So, sleep paralysis is like this condition where
Speaker 7: you're you know, dead asleep and you and if I'm
Speaker 7: sure you know, if you don't know, there's chemicals in
Speaker 7: your body that released to paralyze you while you're sleeping
Speaker 7: so that you don't get up and run while you're dreaming. Right,
Speaker 7: there's things there's a phenomenon that can happen where you
Speaker 7: achieve consciousness, but you're still paralyzed by those things that
Speaker 7: are keeping you sleeping. And I happen to get that
Speaker 7: and have since I was a really little kid. And
Speaker 7: typically for whatever reason, whatever you want to say, about
Speaker 7: the human condition or whatever. When people are stuck at us,
Speaker 7: they go to a very dark space and usually they
Speaker 7: see something really ugly or terrifying. And this, I mean
Speaker 7: it could be anything, It can be a literal. So
Speaker 7: so people call them their sleep paralysis demons. And Alf
Speaker 7: was literally mine. There was a commercial on TV where
Speaker 7: Alf pressed his face against the glass. Is probably from
Speaker 7: like the premiere episode.
Speaker 2: And when I was.
Speaker 7: Eight years old, I think specifically, anytime I would get
Speaker 7: in the sleep paralysis state, there would be Alf at
Speaker 7: the edge of my I be.
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, yeah, it's a frightening thing.
Speaker 1: And was Al saying anything to you? Or was he
Speaker 1: was just he was just him up against the glass
Speaker 1: at the foot of your bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just him against the glass. I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: Do you still have a sleep paralysis a sleep paralysis demon?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And is it still Alf?
Speaker 2: Is it still Alf? No?
Speaker 7: Now, it's just uh Now, it's just I was gonna
Speaker 7: say something, but I won't.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: Now it's it's actually a guy in a suit.
Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, Wow.
Speaker 2: That's scary.
Speaker 1: Well that's very scary. I I that's traumatic. You know, Alf.
Speaker 1: I didn't have that much problems with Alf. We brought
Speaker 1: it up. We brought it up on the show before.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I don't know if this was in
Speaker 1: your sleep paralysis nightmare. But Alf has a tail. We learned,
Speaker 1: uh Neil because I had the stuffed animal for Alf
Speaker 1: and I was a child, and what I would do
Speaker 1: is I would take the alf tail and I would
Speaker 1: tuck it through its legs and close his legs to
Speaker 1: give him a giant erect alf penis.
Speaker 7: Mister Braf, You've changed my life in many ways, and
Speaker 7: now I want to thank you because now my sleep
Speaker 7: proalysis Alf is going to have a big old tail penis.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Now, Sam, I'm gonna feel so
Speaker 1: bad if it goes back from man and suit to
Speaker 1: Alf with an alpha erection. I apologize, but maybe you'll
Speaker 1: be able to laugh and just point and laugh at him.
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll dissipate.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I understood the question. I thought you
Speaker 2: were asking, like how to how.
Speaker 1: He was saying now that in his opinion and an
Speaker 1: opinion of others, things are getting shorter and shorter for
Speaker 1: short attention spans. Do you think there's any way that
Speaker 1: you have adapted the way you perform or evolved things
Speaker 1: that you're doing for a shorter attention span, whether it's
Speaker 1: anything you do, maybe in your animated videos. You know,
Speaker 1: I noticed something I'm gonna I'm gonna answer for Donald
Speaker 1: and Donald you pipe in. You used to post some
Speaker 1: of your stop motion animation longer clips. Now you're posting
Speaker 1: very short clips. Do you think that's the human attention span?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, because at one point I realized that, thank you
Speaker 2: very much, Zach. At one point I realized people were
Speaker 2: not paying attention past a minute, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Fuck that, not paying attention past thirty seconds. And so
Speaker 2: now when I do when I post animation clips, they're
Speaker 2: like four seconds or five seconds, because you know, if anything,
Speaker 2: they'll watch it a couple of times, three or four
Speaker 2: times before they move on to the next thing, to
Speaker 2: make sure they're just to pick up visually what it
Speaker 2: was that they saw, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: like with animation, if it doesn't look right, people don't
Speaker 2: necessarily pay attention to it.
Speaker 1: And also I have a side question. If you're doing animation,
Speaker 1: is it better for you to focus on a short
Speaker 1: do a short little segment really really really well, rather
Speaker 1: than do work on a full minute that has mistakes
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's better to do it. In my opinion, if
Speaker 2: you can do a full minute of perfect animation, you're great.
Speaker 2: But no movie is like that either though, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. There are very few movies that have
Speaker 2: scenes that are a wonder for one minute, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And if they do do that, it's
Speaker 2: a special shot. And so with animation you try to
Speaker 2: shoot it just like you would shoot any other project
Speaker 2: that you put on film, whether it be movie or television.
Speaker 2: You want to make it quick and keep the cuts
Speaker 2: coming so that everybody. The faster the pace, the better
Speaker 2: it is with animation. The slower the slower the pace
Speaker 2: of the story, the easy it is for people to
Speaker 2: tune out.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I send you clips of animation that I think
Speaker 1: is cool and you don't even reply, and it hurts
Speaker 1: my feelings.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry because I've seen them already, I know.
Speaker 1: But you could say yes, I've seen this.
Speaker 2: I could say yes, I've seen this, thank you.
Speaker 1: It's like when my mom sends me my mom send
Speaker 1: me a picture of like a bird, and you know, okay,
Speaker 1: but I can I still take the time to be
Speaker 1: like pretty bird, mom. You know, you could you might
Speaker 1: you know, I might say, hey, exact cool animation, saw
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: You know what, from here on out, because I now
Speaker 2: know that you're very sensitive when.
Speaker 1: It comes to I am sensitive.
Speaker 2: I will from here on out, I will respond with
Speaker 2: oh man, I've seen that already. But thank you.
Speaker 1: All right, Samuel, give another question.
Speaker 7: I got all kinds of questions, but we'll keep it.
Speaker 7: We'll keep it like uh, just knowing that mister Flynn
Speaker 7: is there, which is so cool. I just have to say,
Speaker 7: I seriously think you one of the funniest people that
Speaker 7: has ever existed. Especially I told him that too. I say,
Speaker 7: I agree, It's just totally true. I'm just you know,
Speaker 7: just freeballing here. Let's just say that, yeah, freeballing always always.
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell us what you're under our situation,
Speaker 1: sam I said the wrong word under. You know, this
Speaker 1: is why alphon't leave the foot of your bed.
Speaker 2: He wants to see those balls, Oh, Samuel.
Speaker 1: All right, Samuel, go ahead, free ball away.
Speaker 7: Janitor spinoff of Scrubs. Let's just say that they brought
Speaker 7: it back. Let's just say they got mister Braff and
Speaker 7: mister Faison uh signed on his co stars and at
Speaker 7: least the pilot episode. Where would you want to explore
Speaker 7: the janitor's character now, and what would you want the
Speaker 7: episode around? What kind of stuff would you like to
Speaker 7: be in it outer space?
Speaker 5: That's where it's sat. When we're marooned in outer space.
Speaker 2: So it's sort of like a Gilligan's Island type island
Speaker 2: on the planet or ship?
Speaker 1: Are you on a ship kneel or or on a planet?
Speaker 5: Uh a ship? And then then like toward the end
Speaker 5: of the first season, it lands.
Speaker 2: Sort of like sort of like Josie and the pussy Cats,
Speaker 2: the janitor and the and the doctors.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's very much like Josie and the pussy Cats.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I was hoping you wouldn't notice that I
Speaker 5: stole up.
Speaker 1: So the janitors also in a band.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're all musicians.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Neil, you joke, But I would watch this show.
Speaker 1: I mean, nern't necessarily steal the character from Scrubs, but
Speaker 1: you could be. Your character is a janitor on a
Speaker 1: on a spaceship, which is a character you never see
Speaker 1: who's cleaning Who's cleaning these spaceships?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 1: They watched so much sci fi. Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: anyone cleaning up inside any of those ships.
Speaker 2: No, never, not even the Millennium Falcon, which is the
Speaker 2: dirtiest spaceship in the galaxy.
Speaker 5: No one does any maintenance.
Speaker 2: Never ever.
Speaker 5: Maybe Jordie did a little maintenance.
Speaker 2: Well, but Jordy was like he was an engineer though. Man,
Speaker 2: he was like, oh, that's.
Speaker 1: Right, working like just like like your character would often be,
Speaker 1: you be doing something. We joke about, Neil that we
Speaker 1: sometimes we're like, you know what, the janitor was actually
Speaker 1: a good janitor.
Speaker 5: For all he was.
Speaker 1: He really worked a lot. He was always doing ship
Speaker 1: and uh and you always always were actually working.
Speaker 5: I would have said the opposite. There was oftentimes I
Speaker 5: would say, should I be doing something? I'm constantly just
Speaker 5: walking around the corner with nothing in my hands. You know,
Speaker 5: what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Wasn't there a time when when when someone a director
Speaker 1: said to mop in the admissions and you're like, there's
Speaker 1: a carpet.
Speaker 5: I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm very interested, Neil in developing this. You're a
Speaker 1: chanitor on a spaceship series.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, because if it's it's about three guys that
Speaker 5: they're marooned out in space. Okay, Well, what did they
Speaker 5: do beforehand? Were they scientists or.
Speaker 1: They were on a mission?
Speaker 2: Donald and I were were the well two guys were
Speaker 2: on a mission and one guy was cleaning the ship
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, Donald, Donald, that's what it was. Yes, Donald
Speaker 1: and I are on a mission, and part of this mission.
Speaker 1: Because there's been a lot of complaints about cleanliness and spaceships,
Speaker 1: they sent along a member of the janitorial stuff to
Speaker 1: keep the ship clean while they're on their mission.
Speaker 5: And then once it, once it crashes or whatever, the
Speaker 5: status you know, the totem pole is scrambled. Yes, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: Now the scientists, you know.
Speaker 2: Scared shitless, and the janitor is like, I can handle
Speaker 2: this because follow my lead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the janitor.
Speaker 2: Janitor becomes the captain.
Speaker 1: Yes, and maybe maybe Donald and I are injured, so
Speaker 1: we can't really do much, but the janitor takes over.
Speaker 2: Well, we don't have to be injured. We just have
Speaker 2: to be like kind of like not really good with
Speaker 2: other things other than piloting in science.
Speaker 5: No survival skills whatsoever, whatsoever.
Speaker 1: That's good Neil. So Neil's character is like not only
Speaker 1: was he working for a custodial staff, but he was
Speaker 1: an amazing survivalist, and Donald and I don't know anything
Speaker 1: about how to survival on this random planet.
Speaker 2: Our journey could have been just we were supposed to
Speaker 2: go to the International Space Station, right, and that's it.
Speaker 2: And somehow we got knocked off course by some crazy
Speaker 2: ass gamma wave or some type of microwave or something
Speaker 2: like that, and it sends us into a wormhole and
Speaker 2: we wind up in this fucking galaxy where we don't
Speaker 2: know shit about anything, right, but and don't know how
Speaker 2: to survive other than if we were to be, you know,
Speaker 2: on an International space station. And Neil Flynn Janitor.
Speaker 5: Hey, you know what I just thought of something We
Speaker 5: didn't star Trek. They went to different planets and stuff, right, Yes,
Speaker 5: they never wore helmets, pursuits.
Speaker 1: Those ever, they had oxygen and those all those planets
Speaker 1: had oxygen.
Speaker 2: They were all supporting planets, right.
Speaker 5: Apparently they made that decision early on.
Speaker 1: Well, I imagine, like you said, with the headphones not
Speaker 1: looking good, I'm sure that what's his name, Captain Kirk
Speaker 1: was like, you're not putting the helen on this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like no way to this Shattner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's the idea Joel, will you produce? Joel
Speaker 1: will produce.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 1: We're off to the races, Samuel, thank you for calling in,
Speaker 1: my friend.
Speaker 7: Oh it's such a pleasure to meet everybody.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Thank you awesome and good luck and listen, don't let
Speaker 1: those monsters keep you in bed. Be safe.
Speaker 7: Now. I'm going to show my balls and laugh at him.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 1: And that's a lesson for everybody out there. If you're
Speaker 1: ever afraid, show them your balls and just laugh at them.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll see you in jail.
Speaker 1: Maybe not. Donald's like, well, never mind, by.
Speaker 2: Take care.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have so many questions.
Speaker 5: Back to space Janitor.
Speaker 1: I love that Neil's like furiously taking notes about that.
Speaker 5: Yes I am. I wonder if part of it should
Speaker 5: be a game show, or maybe the whole thing a
Speaker 5: game show. Just for some reason, we're sticking with this,
Speaker 5: these these elements that are a Janitor lost in space. Okay,
Speaker 5: Carter family, What is the capital of shod.
Speaker 2: For the stop.
Speaker 1: And believe it or not, Neil starts with a G.
Speaker 1: There's a silent G. Yeah, jeelity check is G s
Speaker 1: T A a D? If I'm not mistaken?
Speaker 5: God, that reminds me of DJIBOUTI. I think it's pronounced
Speaker 5: this episodes with an N.
Speaker 1: I think starts.
Speaker 5: You're right, you're right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But I remember when we used to do the show.
Speaker 5: You used to do crossword puzzles, did I yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: going through phases.
Speaker 1: Yes, the New York Times probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you would do I remember I never I
Speaker 2: suck at spelling, and I also suck at crossword puzzles.
Speaker 2: But would you ever get to would you ever get
Speaker 2: to the Sunday one? Have you ever? You know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like I hear the Sunday ones are the
Speaker 2: real hard ones. Monday it gets easy and then yeah
Speaker 2: that goes it gets more difficult.
Speaker 1: And as you could finish a Sunday is what you're asking.
Speaker 2: I'm asking. I'm asking how deep into the week would
Speaker 2: you get? Because I know there were times where you
Speaker 2: would you know, I remember asking you one. You'd be like,
Speaker 2: oh this is from like a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 5: Hmm, oh really, well that's you know, it depends on
Speaker 5: how yeah hard your work. Sometimes you just pick it
Speaker 5: up for ten minutes and go on about your day.
Speaker 5: But I haven't done one in a long time. But yes.
Speaker 5: I used to completely most of the time the same day,
Speaker 5: within an hour or two.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I was always jealous of people that could.
Speaker 5: I was. I think, at least what I know to
Speaker 5: be true, is it actually Saturday is the hardest day.
Speaker 5: Sunday's a big puzzle. Sunday's like the super sized puzzle,
Speaker 5: not necessarily harder.
Speaker 1: So it builds the Saturday, and then Sunday's a bigger one,
Speaker 1: and Monday's the easiest. I feel like I have maybe
Speaker 1: done a Monday.
Speaker 2: I've never I remember somebody saying that to me and
Speaker 2: being like, oh, okay, let me get the one on Monday.
Speaker 2: I just don't know, And I realized you had to.
Speaker 2: You had well, you had to read the paper too.
Speaker 1: That was the as I didn't know a lot of trivia.
Speaker 1: I mean, I could do it if it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, no letters, three letters, star of a sitcom
Speaker 1: alien puppet.
Speaker 5: This is a nice, nice callback.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. It means a lot to me.
Speaker 1: We barely talked about the episode, but we should talk
Speaker 1: about the Saint Elsewhere cast that was visiting in this.
Speaker 1: Did you guys, either one of you watch Saint Elsewhere
Speaker 1: back in the day.
Speaker 2: I did so Denzel, Yeah else was it Denzil's first role.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was his first role, but
Speaker 2: I know he was on sayt Elsewhere, him and Howie Mandel.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: Wasn't the theme song like that and that that something
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds very familiar.
Speaker 1: I visited the set once my parents watched it. I
Speaker 1: believe it was Bruce Paltrow, Gwyneth Paltrow's father, who was
Speaker 1: a very big showrunner then, who produced it with others.
Speaker 1: And my dad knew someone. We were visiting La and
Speaker 1: my dad knew someone. We got onto the set. It
Speaker 1: was like the first, like real big TV set. Interestingly,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about this out loud. The first real set
Speaker 1: I ever visited was was a hospital set which was
Speaker 1: sant Elsewhere, and I think it was beyond my It
Speaker 1: was too old for me as a child, but I
Speaker 1: remember my parents really loving it. Juelle just told me
Speaker 1: that Denzel made his feature film debut in the comedy
Speaker 1: A carbon Copy, and and then he was That was
Speaker 1: eighty one, and then he was cast in the So
Speaker 1: it's the second part probably, and he's on He was
Speaker 1: on Saying else Where eighty two to eighty eight. That'd
Speaker 1: be cool to We'll go back and watch a young
Speaker 1: Denzel on that show.
Speaker 2: Well he's been. The crazy thing is he's barely on
Speaker 2: the show, like he was one of the Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: they didn't use him a lot on the show, and
Speaker 2: which was which turned out to be great for him
Speaker 2: because he would be able to go and do movies
Speaker 2: instead of you know what I mean, they were like, well,
Speaker 2: you're not on the show this week, and he'd be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: well there's this dude doing this project. I you know,
Speaker 2: I'm going to sign on and do it.
Speaker 5: Then.
Speaker 2: So, like I remember Cry Freedom coming out. Oh I
Speaker 2: remember that movie, you know what I mean? Him, and that's.
Speaker 1: An amazing movie. If you haven't seen it, Cry Freedom.
Speaker 2: Cry Freedom. Him and Fish called Wander No it was
Speaker 2: Kevin Klein. Yeah, and so I remember they did. I
Speaker 2: remember that came out and I remember being like, holy cow,
Speaker 2: the dude from And this is when my parents were
Speaker 2: like informing me, no, this guy is an amazing actor.
Speaker 2: He's done he did theater in New York, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, He's now blowing up as an actor.
Speaker 2: You should really check out if you because you know,
Speaker 2: I wanted to be an actor at an early age.
Speaker 2: They were like Denzel Washington and they showed me Cry
Speaker 2: Freedom and I remember being like, oh my god, this
Speaker 2: is the most amazing movie ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was incredible.
Speaker 2: And uh and I was very young when I came out.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And then you know, from that Mississippi Massala and you know,
Speaker 2: The Mighty Quinn and a bunch of other movies.
Speaker 5: But yeah, then Glory eventually of course Glory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Glen Glory was one of the first times as
Speaker 1: a child that I that I knew who he was.
Speaker 1: And I've just never seen a performance better than that
Speaker 1: performance in Glory.
Speaker 2: By the time Glory came out, I was well versed
Speaker 2: in Denzel Washington. William go ahead, I was just.
Speaker 1: Gonna say that for me. William Daniels is the voice
Speaker 1: of Kit.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, And when when William Daniels started speaking in this episode,
Speaker 1: I had forgotten. I went, oh my god, it's kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he was the voice of wat. Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never watched night Rider.
Speaker 1: He's a little bit older than us. So Donald and
Speaker 1: I were right in the pocket for a team and
Speaker 1: night Rider And did.
Speaker 2: You ever watch a Team?
Speaker 5: No? Oh, or never.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I went to Universal Studios and I
Speaker 1: was a kid. We went to Universal Studios the tour
Speaker 1: and they had a night Rider car and you could
Speaker 1: get in it and the car would talk to you,
Speaker 1: and it was amazing. In hindsight as an adult they
Speaker 1: obviously had a hidden camera and a guy, but as
Speaker 1: a child that was like, holy shit, it's Kit And
Speaker 1: I just remember thinking he was the coolest. And he would,
Speaker 1: you know, he would say things to try and show
Speaker 1: off that he could see you. It'd be like I
Speaker 1: like you, I like your blue shirt, and and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, cat. But they didn't have it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't it wasn't to William Daniels sitting in some room somewhere.
Speaker 1: Probably No, I don't think they paid his rate.
Speaker 2: Did he go on to do Boy Meets World after
Speaker 2: all of that, after Night Rider and everything? Wasn't he
Speaker 2: like the next door neighbor William Daniels?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, But I don't know about Boy Meets World,
Speaker 5: but certainly it would have been after sane elsewhere. Wasn't
Speaker 5: he I think I'm mixing him up with somebody else.
Speaker 5: But wasn't he in the graduate? Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 5: He might have been Dustin Hoffman's dad, the one.
Speaker 1: Who says plastics. Is he the one who says plastics?
Speaker 5: No, but that's in their yard.
Speaker 1: That's right. That's a neighbor, right, or a friend.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can picture him saying Benjamin, Benjamin. And if
Speaker 5: it's not him, it's an actor.
Speaker 1: That Joel's checking reminds me of each other. And then
Speaker 1: at at Begley h And also Stephen First, who was
Speaker 1: famously an Animal House. Yeah, have you seen Animal House?
Speaker 5: Donald?
Speaker 2: I have seen that. Yes, I have seen animal I.
Speaker 5: Saw Animal House the night before I left for college.
Speaker 2: College was college like animal.
Speaker 5: Not well, you know, it wasn't quite the same. But
Speaker 5: I did join a fraternity, probably influenced by that somewhat.
Speaker 5: It seemed like they were having fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you toga?
Speaker 5: I don't think we ever did a toga thing. That
Speaker 5: would be a little too on the notes.
Speaker 2: Dude, what's up with the zombie movie? All of a sudden,
Speaker 2: in the middle of this episode, out of nowhere, it
Speaker 2: turned into a zombie movie.
Speaker 1: I know it was Mark Buckland directing. I remember, and
Speaker 1: I remember it was kind of like a wide angle
Speaker 1: lens and trying to do all sort of a zombie film.
Speaker 1: I thought that was weird too. Did you notice it? Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm jumping around, but it's seven oh three.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed this, but the score
Speaker 1: all of a sudden has like record DJ scratching in it.
Speaker 1: Did you notice that?
Speaker 2: I didn't notice.
Speaker 1: There's like a score queue like all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 2: No fun, Prince of bel Air.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, so so Joelle is saying that Joel, are
Speaker 1: you saying that he was in the graduate then he was? Indeed?
Speaker 3: Sorry, yes, he was in the graduate Neil.
Speaker 1: You're right, okay, all right, there you go.
Speaker 2: So in this episode, you know, JD's all word that
Speaker 2: he UH has gotten sick from UH. And I remember
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, I just felt invincible, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? And you know, even with even
Speaker 2: with things that I shouldn't have been even with things
Speaker 2: that I shouldn't have been doing where I should have
Speaker 2: been using protection, I felt like invincible, like you know,
Speaker 2: motorcycles whatever whatever it was, where I should have, you know,
Speaker 2: wore a helmet. I didn't, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And because of that, I got a lot of kids.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, are you see that way?
Speaker 1: Are using a cryptic analogy because your daughter is on
Speaker 1: your lap? Yes, I see, I followed it.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah you didn't.
Speaker 1: You didn't wear a helmet when you were on your motorcycle.
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. But the fear of disease or hurting myself
Speaker 2: in any way never came across my mind. You didn't
Speaker 2: think about things like that. Now I have nothing but
Speaker 2: fear when it comes to that stuff, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And it's it's it's I I noticed that
Speaker 2: I've because of the situation that we're in, and you know,
Speaker 2: because of isolation and quarantine and everything like that. I
Speaker 2: treat people a lot differently because of that. And Ted
Speaker 2: the lawyer does that to j D at one point
Speaker 2: where he's like he's trying to play it off where
Speaker 2: he is, you know, things will be fine, and then
Speaker 2: he's like, hey, don't you want your pin back? JD's like,
Speaker 2: don't you want your pin back? And the look and
Speaker 2: Ted's like, you know, keep it yeah, And that's kind
Speaker 2: of how I am now, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like when when the we get groceries delivered, now they
Speaker 2: knock on the door or I'll wait a minute before
Speaker 2: I go to the door, just to make sure that
Speaker 2: the air around the door isn't. You know, Like if
Speaker 2: we were in a room right now and Neil you
Speaker 2: would have coughed like that, I'd been like you, okay, man.
Speaker 1: I know I was coughing last night and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, my girlfriend must totally think I'm sick.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys are conscious of that.
Speaker 1: You're like, now you cough in public and you're like, no.
Speaker 2: No, I'm fine, No, no, no, no, I'm fine. I'm fine.
Speaker 2: And and that's you know, this episode. You know, everybody
Speaker 2: needs first of all, everybody needs to first of all
Speaker 2: chill out, you know what I mean. I know that
Speaker 2: this is a very dangerous and scary time for us
Speaker 2: and everything like that, but you're you're always jumping to
Speaker 2: the worst case scenario, you know what I mean. You
Speaker 2: you have a you have a you know, a feeling
Speaker 2: in your foot. You jump online and the next thing
Speaker 2: you know, You've got gird. You know, you're telling everybody
Speaker 2: I've got I've got a gout.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Your digestify on your toes.
Speaker 1: You're fucked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're fucked right, But you know what I mean, It's.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know if everyone's like that. Don you
Speaker 1: and I might be a neurotic and looking everything up
Speaker 1: and thinking we've got something bad, whereas other people might
Speaker 1: be like, you know, I'm fine.
Speaker 2: I don't know that many people that are that think
Speaker 2: that way, you know what I mean. I think there's
Speaker 2: a fear. We talked about this earlier. There's a fear
Speaker 2: of going to the hospital and finding out that something's wrong.
Speaker 2: So I think a lot of people when something does
Speaker 2: come up, they're like, ah, you know what, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to find out about it. If it's really bad,
Speaker 2: it'll kick my ass later on and then I'll have
Speaker 2: to go to the hospital and they'll fix it then.
Speaker 2: But you know, for Jay, for me personally nowadays, with
Speaker 2: this episode did for me when watching it was like
Speaker 2: it made me realize I have a real phobia when
Speaker 2: it comes to germs now, and I have a real
Speaker 2: phobia when it comes to other people's germs now, and
Speaker 2: it has a lot to do with what we're going through.
Speaker 2: But I didn't have that shit when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: I wasn't afraid of things like this, you know what,
Speaker 2: I mean, there were people that got stuck with me
Speaker 2: when we were doing the show. There a couple of
Speaker 2: people that accidentally got stuck with needles fucking around with
Speaker 2: the props, you know what I mean, thinking oh this
Speaker 2: is fake.
Speaker 1: That would have freaked me out.
Speaker 2: Either I would have lost my ship. Nowadays, I'd be like,
Speaker 2: I'm dying. I know I'm dead. Sarah was the only
Speaker 2: person that I knew. Sarah Schalk was the only person
Speaker 2: that I knew that was like that was like if
Speaker 2: if she had if she had the chills, it was
Speaker 2: it was life for death. I'm dying. I know I'm dying,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It must be a real thing. I mean, while terrifying
Speaker 1: for for real medical personnel, who who get stuck, I'm
Speaker 1: sure on occasion if the person had something serious, how
Speaker 1: scary that would be.
Speaker 2: We're walking around the house. Don't get sick, and don't
Speaker 2: break your leg, don't get hurt, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: The kids are playing around like, well, everybody, calm down.
Speaker 2: We don't want to go to the hospital right now.
Speaker 2: Now's not the time to go to the hospital.
Speaker 5: Well, really, there's you know, it's never a good time
Speaker 5: to go to the hospital. But uh yeah, I thought
Speaker 5: about that, like if you had a appendix.
Speaker 1: Right, was exact ass cheek.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can have my eye shake removed, but it
Speaker 5: was an elective surgery. Turns out side they couldn't have that.
Speaker 5: But yeah, you don't want anything to go wrong. You're well,
Speaker 5: we'll see, you know, in the next week or so
Speaker 5: if any of this people crowding around each other, uh something.
Speaker 1: Well, I actually have said I not to be Debbie
Speaker 1: Downer towards the end of the episode, but that the
Speaker 1: things are spiking back up in LA and uhh, and
Speaker 1: no one's talking about it because there's plenty else going
Speaker 1: on in the news, as we all know. But I
Speaker 1: read I read some articles like why is no one
Speaker 1: talking about the new COVID spike in Los Angeles?
Speaker 5: I think there's spikes in a lot of places, but
Speaker 5: New York is going down so much that it looks
Speaker 5: like a flat line.
Speaker 1: For the country, you mean, like the national line. Yeah, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: well yeah, I fear I fear that that everyone's kind
Speaker 1: of over it. You know, people are like, all right,
Speaker 1: we did fuck it. We got to get out of
Speaker 1: the house now. And and that might be fine if
Speaker 1: you live in a place where this isn't as prevalent,
Speaker 1: but in la it does appear to be climbing back up.
Speaker 2: And the only reason why we're talking about this right now,
Speaker 2: we know we try to get you away from as listeners,
Speaker 2: and we try to keep this as a distraction, a
Speaker 2: distracted as much as a distraction as possible. But this
Speaker 2: is in the story. Yes, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: And so that's why we.
Speaker 1: That's why, guys, it's it's in the episode. And so
Speaker 1: you know about Scott Foley being left I mean, listen
Speaker 1: and Jowell please weigh in as the only female on
Speaker 1: the panel, but Scott fully Scott Foley being left alone
Speaker 1: by Sarah standing there with his roses, it just felt
Speaker 1: a little like just so mean. I mean, with Elliott,
Speaker 1: she found love and or not love necessarily, but she
Speaker 1: really liked this guy. He's as bad as charming as
Speaker 1: a human being could be. He looks like Scott Foley,
Speaker 1: She's like, she leaves him, she leaves him at dark.
Speaker 1: It looks exactly like Scott Volly, she leaves him at
Speaker 1: the door. I mean, I don't know what are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think okay, So I didn't get into movies from
Speaker 3: the seventies until like I was in college. This is
Speaker 3: sort of my first experience watching a woman be like, listen,
Speaker 3: I like you, but this career I've invested in is
Speaker 3: everything to me that we have to pause because it
Speaker 3: wasn't even like a solid breakup. She's like, right now,
Speaker 3: I can't make this work. And it like as a
Speaker 3: you know. Once, I'm like twelve, and I was like,
Speaker 3: you could just leave a dude for work.
Speaker 4: It's brilliant started.
Speaker 3: A white boys at that age. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: so tedious. And so for her to just be like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna work on my stuff, I was like, this
Speaker 3: is brilliant. Oh my god, I really like to see.
Speaker 1: Oh I okay, there you go. There's the answer. I
Speaker 1: was like, I mean, I was impressed by the character
Speaker 1: making that choice because the writers really went out of
Speaker 1: their way to make sure there was absolutely nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with this guy. I mean, he was as dreamy as
Speaker 1: it could be. But she was getting distracted from her
Speaker 1: work and and she was like, look, I really am
Speaker 1: excited about but this is what I've worked my whole
Speaker 1: life for. So I gotta I gotta push you away.
Speaker 5: Which he's not gone though, is he.
Speaker 1: No, he does come back.
Speaker 2: But I don't know that she was distracted. I think
Speaker 2: it was how the hospital reacted to her and the
Speaker 2: Walk of Shame in the beginning of the episode. I
Speaker 2: think that was more of a reason for her to
Speaker 2: break up with. You know, Elliott is very worried about
Speaker 2: what everyone thinks about her. That's what the character, That's
Speaker 2: how the character is, you know. You know, she even
Speaker 2: says it in the beginning, and ninety nine percent of my
Speaker 2: life is me trying to impress my dad, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And so I think when the Walk
Speaker 2: of Shame thing happened and everyone made fun of her,
Speaker 2: I think that's that's you know, it sent her down
Speaker 2: the rabbit hole and she spiraled, and that's why.
Speaker 1: But he was also it wasn't just that Donald she
Speaker 1: you know, Kelso's like grilling her and she doesn't know
Speaker 1: the answers to questions. It rounds where she always does,
Speaker 1: and then she starts getting in her head. At one
Speaker 1: point she's like, uh, she can't think of something, and
Speaker 1: I like, I turned around, I'm like, come on, you
Speaker 1: know that she's tired, maybe because she was up all
Speaker 1: night playing schoolgirl right.
Speaker 2: But I think that stems from once again, you know,
Speaker 2: Kelso seeing her at the at the scrubs machine and
Speaker 2: giving her ship for not having her scrubs her scrubs.
Speaker 5: That day, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I think, I don't know, I could be I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's probably it's probably both a combination of both. But anyway,
Speaker 1: we all know, we all know the spoiler alert that
Speaker 1: Scott Foley comes back. He ends up being an animal.
Speaker 1: Is he a marine biologist or an animal trainer at
Speaker 1: SeaWorld something like that.
Speaker 2: But what a great scene that was though, too man
Speaker 2: where they break up because it looks like it's going
Speaker 2: one way, you know, and the miss there's a great misdirection, right,
Speaker 2: you know, she breaks she kind of you see her
Speaker 2: breaking up with him earlier in the script where he
Speaker 2: comes to visit her and she's like, and he's doing
Speaker 2: all the right things, and she's getting pissed off that
Speaker 2: he's doing all the right things. And then she comes
Speaker 2: out at the end and it seems like she's gotten
Speaker 2: over all of the all of the bs that she
Speaker 2: was holding on to because of her Walk of shame situation,
Speaker 2: and then in the middle of it, she discovers. Wait
Speaker 2: a second, it's not just that I am distracted because
Speaker 2: of how perfect you are. And now's not the time
Speaker 2: for me to be distracted. Now's the time for me
Speaker 2: to be the best I possibly can be, so that
Speaker 2: in a couple of years, in a few years, I
Speaker 2: can find another I can find a guy just like
Speaker 2: you and do it all over again. And this time
Speaker 2: for Keeps and I feel and the way they both
Speaker 2: play the scene is perfect because it really does feel
Speaker 2: like Sean is hit by a mac truck because he
Speaker 2: doesn't see it coming, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 2: sees it as Okay, she had a bad day. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna bring her flowers and cheer her up. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: now she's walking back into the hospital and I'm standing
Speaker 2: here with a dozen roses.
Speaker 1: I felt bad for him. I'm such a sucker for
Speaker 1: the writers. Really how to get me with you know,
Speaker 1: love that cannot be. I'm like, oh, this poor guy,
Speaker 1: he's like crazy about this girl. He's standing here with
Speaker 1: roses and he's like, she's goes, he goes. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be I'm gonna wait here because I know you're gonna
Speaker 1: change your mind in two minutes and She's like, I
Speaker 1: hope so, and then she doesn't he.
Speaker 2: Just and then he trashes the roses.
Speaker 1: Well do you think he trashes the rose that or
Speaker 1: he leaves them and people just walk all over him.
Speaker 1: I couldn't just figure that out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just thought of that when I first saw
Speaker 5: the roses. I thought, yeah, come on, that's a little
Speaker 5: bit of a hissy fit.
Speaker 1: Like he was jumping up and down on it.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, but the only reason I know that he
Speaker 5: doesn't disappear well it, come to think of it. Oh, no,
Speaker 5: the last episode I guess of season one is somebody's wedding.
Speaker 5: Is it Turk and Carla?
Speaker 2: No, we don't get married until season three, I think.
Speaker 5: Well, then.
Speaker 2: At the end of season two.
Speaker 5: When we were shooting that episode.
Speaker 2: He was there in the last episode of the scene
Speaker 2: your wedding.
Speaker 5: Yes, that is he So many fays, you.
Speaker 1: Know, there's so many fans right now that know the
Speaker 1: show better than us. They're like, you idiots, he's an
Speaker 1: episode and this one and this one of this one,
Speaker 1: but we don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's ask. Let's let a wiki guy, all right.
Speaker 1: So, Neil, we have this guy. His name is Trevor
Speaker 1: Trevor Wiki, we have a question. How many more episodes
Speaker 1: is Scott folly in? And was he? Did he attend
Speaker 1: Donald and Carla's wedding? Hey, guys, Scott fully appears in
Speaker 1: twelve episodes over seasons one, three, and eight, including Turk
Speaker 1: and Carla's wedding reception in the season three finale. All right,
Speaker 1: we got to wrap this up. Guys. We've been neil.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to keep you so long. We've been going
Speaker 1: an hour and forty five six minutes.
Speaker 5: It's okay.
Speaker 1: I hope you had a good time just shooting the
Speaker 1: ship with us. We miss you.
Speaker 2: We miss you big time. We'd love to have you
Speaker 2: back too, if you ever want to come back and
Speaker 2: hang out with us. Yes, me more than yeah, I
Speaker 2: will because this was fun.
Speaker 5: But I thought we would talk about me more. That
Speaker 5: kind of bored.
Speaker 1: Oh, he checked out until we started talking about the
Speaker 1: night terrors. Guy Alf at the foot of his bed
Speaker 1: against the glass. By the way, Donald, remember we were
Speaker 1: speaking about that rap song up, sir, mix a lot.
Speaker 1: Put him on the glass, put him on the baby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: his nightmare is Alf putting him on the glass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would do it for me too.
Speaker 1: For now, I have the visual of Alf putting his
Speaker 1: breasts on on on glass.
Speaker 2: Or his tail penis or his tail penis.
Speaker 1: On that note. Thank you everybody for listening. We really
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Follow Donald and I on Instagram, especially Donald
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have as many followers as I. He's
Speaker 1: very upset about it.
Speaker 2: I am very upset about it. We even talked about
Speaker 2: it on the podcast. It hasn't moved. It hasn't moved.
Speaker 1: Don't yell at people. Donald, it's not a win to
Speaker 1: end the podcast.
Speaker 2: I just don't. I think it's disrespectful. I think it's disrespectful.
Speaker 1: Okay, calm down.
Speaker 2: I was clueless, damn it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was in clueless. Dammit. Uh you
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna keep doing it for the foreseeable future. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it's totally free. You know, we just do this. It's
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Speaker 1: you can just listen to it anywhere for totally free. Yes, Dom,
Speaker 1: what were you going to say before you lead us
Speaker 1: in song?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, and you know, we'll have Neil
Speaker 2: back on and we'll talk about more things I wanted
Speaker 2: to get into. I wanted to get into The Fugitive.
Speaker 1: I wanted to say it, let's save it. Maybe he
Speaker 1: has a one story about Harrison Ford being difficult to
Speaker 1: save it? All right, thanks for listening.
Speaker 2: Just work twice with Harrison Ford, though he's worked twice
Speaker 2: with Harrison Ford The Crystal Skull and and and The Fugitive.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for one day each time?
Speaker 2: Right, Well, once sing you had way more lines than
Speaker 2: just kimbole.
Speaker 1: Is that all it was, Kimball?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was more in the script, not not much more,
Speaker 5: but it was. I was wondering which take they would
Speaker 5: use when I saw the film. We wonder when I'm saying,
Speaker 5: now back up, come toward me, let me see your hands,
Speaker 5: you know all that stuff, And I see the movie
Speaker 5: and it's Kimball Bank straight to me.
Speaker 1: Well, Neil, you're in You're in what I consider a classic.
Speaker 1: So that's just cool to me.
Speaker 5: And it is a really good movie.
Speaker 1: It's a great I recently rewatched it and it's so good.
Speaker 1: Holds up, Oh, it holds up. It's so good. All right,
Speaker 1: Donald lead us in the song you Got Mad Last
Speaker 1: Time when I did.
Speaker 2: It, I want Nail to do it, Neil, can you
Speaker 2: just go? Five six seven?
Speaker 5: The real quick?
Speaker 4: Yeah, stories about show. We made about a bunch of stories. Yea.
Speaker 2: We watch Your Wiz and Allo