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Speaker 1: tricky thing. But if there's something here, we gotta know,

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Speaker 1: you know, this isn't this isn't. Oh. I just want

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Speaker 1: to know stuff because I want to know, because I

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Speaker 1: want to scoop. No, this is about the future of

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Speaker 1: the country, and if this was really happening the way

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Speaker 1: I think it was at d O, j R, FBI,

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Speaker 1: we need to know about it, and that's why the

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Speaker 1: memo needs to be released. But I'm also trying to

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Speaker 1: prepare all of us for what to expect here if

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Speaker 1: the memo is released. I just saw this. This is

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Speaker 1: from CNN in the last hour of CNN White House.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a White House reporter, senior congressional correspondent.

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Speaker 1: Pardon me, I thought senior White House reporter. CNN as

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Speaker 1: so many you know, senior whatever. So I'm like, is

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Speaker 1: anybody not the senior you know, senior brown haired reporter

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Speaker 1: on the front lawn today of the White House? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, is it does everyone get to play put

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Speaker 1: the senior before their name. I also note that it's

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Speaker 1: no surprise why their ratings now. Maybe they were good

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Speaker 1: during the never Trump, the height of the never Trump

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Speaker 1: era in the election and afterwards, but every night now

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Speaker 1: they have panels where the panels are discussing Mueller's planned

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Speaker 1: questioning of of of subjects in the investing, not suspects,

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Speaker 1: but subjects in the investigation. Of the Russia collusion thing.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, they don't know anything. They don't know

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Speaker 1: when it's even gonna happen, they don't know what's gonna

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Speaker 1: be asked. This is just all speculation, but it's fever

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Speaker 1: swamp speculation. It gets the the never Trump, it gets

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Speaker 1: the Trump arrangement syndrome, afflicted left excited. Oh, who's mother

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Speaker 1: going to talk to now now here? I hear you know,

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Speaker 1: mother's gonna subpoeno a limo a limo driver from Atlantic

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Speaker 1: City and asking questions about Trump in the eighties. Oh

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Speaker 1: you know who cares well? I guess the people stuck

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Speaker 1: in airports and on treadmills watching CNN care. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: here's what CNN senior senior congressional correspondent put out in

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Speaker 1: the last hour, Manu Manu Raju. I actually don't know Monu.

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Speaker 1: So there's that never worked with Monu. Trump did declassify

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Speaker 1: NOONEZ memo if the House approves release. According to Evan Perez,

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Speaker 1: oh I'm sorry. See he's the senior DC judicial analyst

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Speaker 1: or something over there. You know, they got a lot

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Speaker 1: of senior something or others and the White House White

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Speaker 1: spokesman has said no decision has been made whether to

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Speaker 1: allow the memo to be classified, to release House Intel

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Speaker 1: or to release it. House Intel has to vote, giving

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Speaker 1: President five days to allow it to be declassified. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see. Look, I want this memo. I want this

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Speaker 1: memo out there. I want to see what's in it.

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Speaker 1: But they're going to play games. W They're gonna redact it.

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Speaker 1: It cannot be a memo that is entirely analysis of

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Speaker 1: classified information where we don't get any There has to

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Speaker 1: be something there beyond. I read this and this is

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Speaker 1: what I think, and I'm worried that maybe what the

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Speaker 1: memo is. You know, that this is something that's been

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Speaker 1: pulled together. It would be like one one one uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, one party in Congress puts out a paper

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Speaker 1: based on their investigation, and it's just it's a almost

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Speaker 1: like a partisan policy document. Right, We've been investigating and

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Speaker 1: here's what we find, and it's only Republicans. Are only

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Speaker 1: Democrats that signed onto. It doesn't mean it's not true.

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Speaker 1: It just means that the impact of it is much less.

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Speaker 1: We need to see what the actual basis is here.

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Speaker 1: But to work through this for a moment together and

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Speaker 1: to understand what's really coming here? And if you want

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Speaker 1: me to, I mean tell me. I mean I could.

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Speaker 1: I could sit here and say that, you know, struck

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Speaker 1: in page and call me. You know, they're all gonna

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Speaker 1: be in handcuffs, you know, any day. Now, just watch

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Speaker 1: just watch the what's the ratings sword based on that?

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are playing that game. Now, Oh

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Speaker 1: that's all they're all. It's all going down. There's Democrats.

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Speaker 1: They played dirty and they they go down hard. It's

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Speaker 1: not easy. It's gonna take a lot. Let's say that

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Speaker 1: the memo, which and this is what I've been told

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Speaker 1: by sources, including sources whose sources have read the memo. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's say that it's because and by the way,

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Speaker 1: they're also you've got members of Congress who have read

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Speaker 1: it going on TV saying this too, right, So it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really this is now all turning into a big

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Speaker 1: confirmation loop. But what we've heard is what we're hearing,

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Speaker 1: and what we're hearing is what we've heard. Let's say

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Speaker 1: that it is a few there's a few lines in there.

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Speaker 1: It says, you know, a the FBI requests a FISA

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Speaker 1: warrant for you know, blacked out blacked out, blacked out

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Speaker 1: some stuff there, but for the be based on intelligence

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Speaker 1: clean from the following source. And it's the Fusion GPS dossier,

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Speaker 1: which is an unclassified opposition research document paid for by

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Speaker 1: the Hillary campaign. And we've it's been published. I've read

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Speaker 1: every word of it. It's a it's all out there, right,

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Speaker 1: let's say that's what it is. Okay. The political consequences

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Speaker 1: would be severe. I think this would just would hurt Democrats,

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Speaker 1: This would hurt the anti Trump narrative, and it would

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Speaker 1: be a great thing, and it would be vindication and

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Speaker 1: it would be a wonderful day for America. Okay, And

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Speaker 1: I think it may be coming. So I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to say it's not that it's nothing or that it's unimportant.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I don't want us to overprom or to

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Speaker 1: to get ahead of what that will mean, because yes,

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Speaker 1: it will be great those of us who are honest

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Speaker 1: and looking at the facts as they come out and

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Speaker 1: basing our assessment of this effort to overturn a presidency.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is big. This has never happened in

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Speaker 1: my lifetime, but there is a big deal. But it'll

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Speaker 1: be a massive data point in favor of you and

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Speaker 1: me and all those of us who have been sitting

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Speaker 1: here being like se and then New York Times they've

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Speaker 1: lost they've lost their minds. They're playing dirty against Trump.

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Speaker 1: There's a deep state element. All what we're saying will

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Speaker 1: be proven to be true, but the consequences for those

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Speaker 1: involved in this, they'll say that we thought the dossier

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Speaker 1: was We thought the dossier was was good work. We

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Speaker 1: thought that it was based on good leads. They can

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Speaker 1: always fall back. And this is the problem with government,

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Speaker 1: This is the problem with deep sab bureaucracy. Stupidity is

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Speaker 1: always a defense in government. Stupidity will get you out

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Speaker 1: of a lot of stuff. Right, not being what I mean,

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Speaker 1: not being good at your job. Oh you know, we

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Speaker 1: made a mistake, bad judgment calls. That's what they're gonna

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Speaker 1: say about this. Now does that wipe away the politicization

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Speaker 1: is that? Of course not, But it means and now

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Speaker 1: no one's going to look. I've had any McCarthy on

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Speaker 1: and I've asked him this question specifically. He's a former

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Speaker 1: federal prosecutor. I'm telling it to you straight because I

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Speaker 1: respect all of you. Listen to the show. I know

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Speaker 1: what would get everyone fired, that's right, you know, tweeting,

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Speaker 1: Oh they're all gonna be frog marched out of the FBI,

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Speaker 1: and it's not gonna happen. The only remedy here for

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Speaker 1: the deep state corruption, the only remedy for all of

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Speaker 1: what we're seeing once it's really provable. Right now, we

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Speaker 1: have a lot of indicators, we have evidence, but we

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Speaker 1: haven't proven the case yet. But the only thing we

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Speaker 1: can do once we get to that point is a

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Speaker 1: political remedy. And that means, as I said, those who

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Speaker 1: have their eyes opened and are willing to listen to

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Speaker 1: reason and facts will be brought over to our side,

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Speaker 1: which will strengthen the Republican majority, which will strengthen the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration, will weaken the media's ability to con struck

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Speaker 1: narratives to stand in the way of what has been

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Speaker 1: a great first year for Trump and I'm hoping will

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Speaker 1: be even better. That's the real payoff here. That's really

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Speaker 1: what we can look forward to. But just don't don't

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Speaker 1: think that this is gonna be you know, the the

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Speaker 1: scene at the end of the cop movie were like

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Speaker 1: all the dirty cops, It's like one after another. There's

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Speaker 1: a montage the I'm like, you know, you know, why

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Speaker 1: do you have to tell them? Why do you have

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Speaker 1: to sell me out? And the cops are all you know,

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Speaker 1: like the end of Serproca or something. Well, actually serproc

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Speaker 1: is a very different ending, but you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the general that's that's the gist it. I was

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Speaker 1: actually think of American gangster there where the crooked cops

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Speaker 1: get caught in the end. So anyway, I got to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about immigration too. I know, we spent

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Speaker 1: a lot of time today already on this issue of

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Speaker 1: the memo and release the memo and what I think

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Speaker 1: will come of all this. I didn't spend too much

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Speaker 1: time in the text messages, the new text messages. Although

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Speaker 1: we mentioned the secret society. I want to know what

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Speaker 1: secret society is supposed to mean. Also, Congress has got

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Speaker 1: to get these We've got to have open testimony for

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Speaker 1: these memories because it is a politic It's going to

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Speaker 1: be a political issue dealing with eruption. Trying to use

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Speaker 1: the law and and and criminal justice to solve these issues,

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Speaker 1: as a conservative is always going to It's it's tricky.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways that they can dirty things up,

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Speaker 1: muddy up the waters and make it really hard to

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Speaker 1: get any justice, any real satisfaction. Political solutions are much

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Speaker 1: more realistic for this. Uh. If you think I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: I want to hear that too, But uh, I think

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Speaker 1: I'm right. Eight four four to five. We will talk

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Speaker 1: about immigration. I'm gonna share a really powerful op ed

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Speaker 1: with you in the next hour. Are really an op

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Speaker 1: ed on immigration that I think will Maybe it's not

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Speaker 1: going to change the way you view the debate, but

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Speaker 1: it'll leave a real impression on you. That much I

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Speaker 1: can say. So that's coming up in the next hour.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back, all right, lots of lines lid.

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Speaker 1: I had a feeling that would happen, So uh, let's

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Speaker 1: let's hear from all you team. Thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for listening in for those you want to call in.

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Speaker 1: If you want to write in Facebook dot com slash

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Speaker 1: page as well. Kenny in Boston, What up? Kenny? Hello, Buck,

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Speaker 1: And I want to thank you from the bottom of

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Speaker 1: my hut for bringing up that aspect that nobody is

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Speaker 1: going to go down for this. Oh okay, well say

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that somebody you know. I feel like people

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Speaker 1: get mad at me when I tell them this. I

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Speaker 1: said this back at the Blaze when the Benghazi thing,

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Speaker 1: I said, I promise you, no one's going to jail.

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Speaker 1: And this was right after you know, Obama on reelection.

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Speaker 1: I said, I promise you, no one's going to jail

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Speaker 1: for Benghazi because the fix is in. And that's what

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Speaker 1: we learned, right, Kenny, the fix. You know, Comby and

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Speaker 1: all these people, they know what they're doing in terms

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Speaker 1: of how they stay out of legal jeopardy for the

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Speaker 1: most part because they cover each other. Of course, there's

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Speaker 1: always plans B C. D E. For anybody who goes down,

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Speaker 1: and anybody who would go down is going to be

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Speaker 1: some low wrong person, that's right. You know, we we

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Speaker 1: might get the the Comy equivalent of a papadopolis, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, or Comey's equivalent of a papadopolis.

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Speaker 1: That's and who cares? I feel bad for that guy?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's funny. What I wanted to really know

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Speaker 1: is what is in it for these people that they're

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Speaker 1: obviously tearing at the fabric of the integrity of the

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Speaker 1: United States by conducting this. He's a career, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: government workers, what are they getting out of it? It's

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Speaker 1: the phenomenal question, um, And it's one that I've actually

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Speaker 1: been figuring. I was gonna write. I write sometimes for

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Speaker 1: the Hill, and you know when I am busy these

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Speaker 1: days with the with the radio show. But I tried it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be trying to write more. Uh, but I

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Speaker 1: was gonna write on this issue. Actually, So maybe it's

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Speaker 1: a good idea. I'm me to talk about a little

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Speaker 1: bit first. This is a very important question. First of all,

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Speaker 1: before I get into the specifics of it, think about

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Speaker 1: it this way, Kenny. Why do government employees, you know,

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Speaker 1: leak sensitive national security stuff the Washingtonost in New York Times.

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Speaker 1: And it's an incredibly dumb thing to do, right, They

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Speaker 1: get they don't get any money out of it, they

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Speaker 1: don't get anything else. So why do they do that?

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Speaker 1: Hubris is a big part of it, Um. Sometimes there's

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Speaker 1: an ideological component of it, which I think is can

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Speaker 1: be a very big part of it. Right. Why were

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Speaker 1: they leaking during the Bush administration? Because they were so

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Speaker 1: convinced that George W. Bush was a danger to the

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Speaker 1: country and a danger of national security that anything they

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Speaker 1: could do to hurt Bush any and when I say

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Speaker 1: they it's a small group of people, but a small

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Speaker 1: group in the government that has the access can do

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Speaker 1: a lot of damage. Right, So we've already a stati

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Speaker 1: It's a great question. But let's make sure that we're

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Speaker 1: clear that there are lots of folks who do really

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Speaker 1: dumb things in the government for ideological reasons. Right. Leaking

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Speaker 1: is a great example of it. Lee, I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: that leaking classified stuff that they can get, you know,

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Speaker 1: sent to prison for a long time for. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: that's one thing specifically on Trump. Look at how many

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Speaker 1: look at what Sally Yates did, and look at Coomey's

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Speaker 1: true self, which has come out even more now that

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Speaker 1: he's no longer FBI director. If they in fact believe,

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Speaker 1: if they had the cur edge of their convictions, if

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Speaker 1: they believe that Trump is a danger to this country,

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Speaker 1: a danger to the international community, if they really take

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Speaker 1: that on, then why wouldn't they If if you do,

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Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying, If you take it from

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Speaker 1: their perspective, if their brain has been so rotted by

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Speaker 1: this anti Trump hatred, of course they would abuse their

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Speaker 1: power and try to stop him because they would be

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Speaker 1: morally obligated to do so. Do you see what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: And I know it's crazy, but if you take it

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Speaker 1: from the perspective of a Trump derangement syndrome sufferer, and

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Speaker 1: you're happy to be a senior FBI person or senior

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Speaker 1: d o J person, well you you better step in

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Speaker 1: and do something because somebody has to do. You see

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I know it's crazy, but it's important. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I can see what you're saying. Uh. You know that

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Speaker 1: the thing about them losing all these text messages and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that, and all this stuff and information, and

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Speaker 1: obviously they must be relying on the media to cover

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Speaker 1: from because it doesn't it show that they are either

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Speaker 1: a incompetent or be corrupt. Yes, And the answer, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Kenny, is yes, as in both incompetent and corrupt.

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Speaker 1: I've been telling everybody for a long Kenny, great questions

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Speaker 1: and great call man. Thank you very much for giving

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Speaker 1: me a ring. Um all we we got more on this.

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Speaker 1: If you're on hold, stay with me if you want.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to your calls in the next hour eight four,

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Speaker 1: four to five. You're right back. He's back with you now,

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Speaker 1: because when it comes to the fight for truth, the

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Speaker 1: fuck never stops. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Something happened. Something just broke right right before I was

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Speaker 1: gonna transition us into an immigration discussion, which we are

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Speaker 1: going to have, and I have an off ed that

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Speaker 1: I just have to share with you, and like, wow,

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Speaker 1: it'll be it'll be illuminating to say the least, on

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Speaker 1: issue of illegal immigration. But first, this just came up.

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Speaker 1: This was from Brett Bear Show on Fox, which is

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Speaker 1: a is a great news show, by the way, it's

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Speaker 1: one of my very favorites. But Brett Bear was talking

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Speaker 1: to uh Ron Johnson, I believe it was, and this

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Speaker 1: came up just before on air. Here what this is

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Speaker 1: all about is further evidence of corruption more than bias,

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Speaker 1: but corruption at the highest levels of the FBI and

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Speaker 1: that secret society we have. We have an informant that's

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Speaker 1: talking about a group that were holding secret meetings off site.

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Speaker 1: There's there's so much smoke here, there's so much suspicious.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's stop. There a secret society that a secret

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Speaker 1: meetings offside of the Justice Department. Correct, And you have

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Speaker 1: an informant saying that, yes, has anything more about that. No,

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Speaker 1: we have to dig into it. That's that's this is

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Speaker 1: not a distraction again, this is this is biased potentially

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Speaker 1: corruption at the highest levels of the FBI that is

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Speaker 1: now investigating. And now, by the way, Robert Mueller used

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Speaker 1: to run the FBI. Uh, he is in no position

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Speaker 1: to do an investigation over this kind of misconduct. So

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Speaker 1: I think at this point in time, we probably should

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Speaker 1: be looking at a special council to undertake this investigation up,

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Speaker 1: a special council to look at the special council. That's

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Speaker 1: where we are. But that's not even the biggest headline.

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Speaker 1: Here a secret society of I guess Trump derangement sufferers

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Speaker 1: at the FBI, at the top reaches of the FBI. Ah,

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Speaker 1: maybe people are going to prison. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: this is getting real. We are now there's a part

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Speaker 1: of me that look, I I approached things with a

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Speaker 1: with a natural skepticism, right. It was very helpful as

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Speaker 1: an intelligence analyst. It's very helpful as somebody now in

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Speaker 1: the media. I don't I don't run out. There was

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, did you hear this thing? And then

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Speaker 1: I have to go Actually that was totally fake. It

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Speaker 1: was false, you know. I try to live in reality

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Speaker 1: and do a lot of source verification and stay with

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Speaker 1: the facts and and analyze where I think it's going

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Speaker 1: without being convinced that I can tell you what the

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Speaker 1: future is or where something is definitely going. But a

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Speaker 1: secret society of frump paters at the FBI, I mean

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Speaker 1: they're actually calling it a secret society and a text message.

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Speaker 1: If that was more than just I'm assuming they're gonna

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Speaker 1: tell us that that was a joke, right if I'm

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Speaker 1: the if I'm the appointed lawyer, which I don't have

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Speaker 1: a law degree, so but I'd be better than some

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Speaker 1: lawyers anyway. If I were the appointed lawyer for Lisa

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Speaker 1: Page and and Peter Struck over the FBI, of course

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Speaker 1: my story publicly would be all the secret Society was

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Speaker 1: a joke. There, disappointed Hillary Laws you know, I know

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Speaker 1: how they're gonna try to play it. But if secret

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Speaker 1: Society is something that actually was happening, that becomes a

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Speaker 1: big problem. Right if you they said you heard the

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Speaker 1: audio I just played this for this was just on

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Speaker 1: Fox News, just breaking before that, you have Ron Johnson

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Speaker 1: out there saying, remember Congress, respect, remember Congress access to

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Speaker 1: classified information. He's saying that they've got a whistleblower. I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming they're not just taking like a random voicemail to

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Speaker 1: the Congressional Answering Service or something. I was a validated

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Speaker 1: whistleblower who was telling them that there was meetings of

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Speaker 1: a of a secret society off site, you know which

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Speaker 1: we're thinking here, top d o J people top. Remember

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Speaker 1: this is we're talking criminal justice here, folks, d o J, FBI,

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Speaker 1: federal government, federal law enforcement. Some of the top people

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Speaker 1: there may have been part of a secret society to

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Speaker 1: get rid of Trump or to stop Trump or this

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Speaker 1: is this is straight up Tom Clancy level stuff. Right,

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Speaker 1: This is like out of a fictional spy thriller espionage novel. Right,

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Speaker 1: the deep state element within the most powerful arm of

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Speaker 1: the federal government really, which is in fact a federal

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Speaker 1: law enforcement or if you want, you know, if someone's

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Speaker 1: trying to uh weaponize an arm of the federal government,

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Speaker 1: I mean short of the military, which the deep state

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Speaker 1: can't do, thankfully because the military's patriotism. But some folks

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Speaker 1: the top of the FBI. Uh, I'm a little worried here. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. Look this maybe we don't have enough yet

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Speaker 1: to say that this is a thing, but we have

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Speaker 1: enough to say that we need to find out if

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Speaker 1: it is or not. The secret Society of Anti Trumper's

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Speaker 1: at the at the d o J, at the FBI.

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Speaker 1: We we uh, this just keeps getting better. But will

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Speaker 1: you notice also that not a lot where's all the

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Speaker 1: Russia stuff that we're supposed to be find out about, right,

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Speaker 1: meaning that the Trump Russia, the meetings and all the

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Speaker 1: no now, that whole oh yeah, Papadopolis was the basis

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Speaker 1: for the collusion investigation because of what he said to

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Speaker 1: an Australian ingreat Britain about what he had heard the

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Speaker 1: New York Times around that that was what we call

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Speaker 1: weak sauce. That was some That was some week sauce.

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Speaker 1: That was not good. Alright, every single line here's lits.

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Speaker 1: I've got a you folks are kind enough to to

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Speaker 1: listen and and to give me your your thoughts here,

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Speaker 1: So let's get into it. Uh. First, up here is

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Speaker 1: Tim in Ohio. Tim, welcome to Welcome to the Box

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Hey, Buck, has been a few weeks since

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Speaker 1: I talked to you. Tell you what I'm gonna hit

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Speaker 1: you really quick with three big topics. Number one, shields. Hi,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we are loving it, thank you. And

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Speaker 1: the thing is and then I'm going on Wikipedia and

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Speaker 1: going back in time, going to these places, seeing exactly

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Speaker 1: where this is and where that happened, and which group

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Speaker 1: was this and that. I'll tell you what, you know,

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Speaker 1: they taught us a lot of good history back there

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Speaker 1: in the late sixties and seventies when I went to school.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I gotta I gotta look on Wikipedia,

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Speaker 1: get caught up in all these things you're telling us.

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Speaker 1: Is you're moving quick. It's good. It's not boring. It's fantastic. God,

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Speaker 1: I wish we could see it on screens. We went

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Speaker 1: so fast, but it's so informative. We're loving it. I

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Speaker 1: tell you. All the guys listening at work with us,

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Speaker 1: you know, thank you. It's very kind. You gotta dude

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Speaker 1: to fallow concept and able. Part two is count up Monday.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna really get into it because it got nasty,

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Speaker 1: my friend, it got crazy. No. Number two I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about quick. You know, there's this thing going

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Speaker 1: on now. Number three I want to hit quick too,

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Speaker 1: but it's immigration. Number two is back to the corruption

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Speaker 1: now in the government. Listen, I told that. We talked

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Speaker 1: weeks ago about how the FBI tapped my phone, right,

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Speaker 1: and that was over because of the crooked Clinton corruption

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Speaker 1: that was going back in the nineties. And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what. You know, my father worked for a high

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Speaker 1: bell for thirty four years. He's the one who uncovered

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Speaker 1: the tap of my line. Right. But the deal was,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't stand it any longer. It's writing off eds

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Speaker 1: in the paper because Clinton was selling our country out

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Speaker 1: for the missile guidance technology to China and the nuclear

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Speaker 1: stuff to China and everything, and and the job's going

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Speaker 1: to China. And I couldn't stand it anymore. I had

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Speaker 1: to write all these off eds and pretty soon you

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Speaker 1: know what, my phone is getting tapped. But anyway, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's move on to three. Immigration. Oh yeah, let's go

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Speaker 1: to immigration. Okay. Let me tell you something here in

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Speaker 1: the eastern Ohio. You know what we got Chicken Plucker's,

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Speaker 1: we got different types of forms of illegal immigration works.

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Speaker 1: And that women are in the grocery store with full carts, okay,

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Speaker 1: and they're paying with eb T cards. They can't speak

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Speaker 1: a liqu at English. And I'm telling you it's really

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Speaker 1: taking off the people around here because you know what,

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Speaker 1: we gotta work for it. We're the working poor. And

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Speaker 1: these people got full carts and they're paying at eb

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Speaker 1: T cards and they're illegal. It's it's really ticking us.

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Speaker 1: Amnesty is not popular with the American people, and that's

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Speaker 1: that's why Democrats need to bring And thank you for

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Speaker 1: calling in, Tim, and thank you for kind words. Tim

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Speaker 1: was talking about Shields High podcast, which is on iTunes

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Speaker 1: if you want to listen, it's it's up there. It's free,

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00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: it's all history, it's some pretty cool stuff. But the

852
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: Democrats don't want to vote for amnesty and us they

853
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: bring along some Republicans because then it becomes a a

854
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: bipartisan destruction. Then then both parties have chosen the form

855
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: of the destructor, so to speak, they will have both

856
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: brought the country into a very uh, very bad place,

857
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: I think. Because well, I'll get into immigration and what's

858
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: and what's coming up on that in a few minutes.

859
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Speaker 1: Stay with me on that. Uh let's see, we have

860
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: uh Wayne in Lexington, North Carolina. Hey Wayne, Hey buk um.

861
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that I was originally a

862
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: cruise supporter, but yeah, me too, that he lost us

863
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: the primary heroes on war with Trump. But if these

864
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: cats by nobody goes to jail over this, miss Trump

865
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: will definitely be re elected. Oh yeah, well that's that's

866
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What do we care about more? Right?

867
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: This is why the release the memo is critical, Wayne,

868
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: because the memo is helpful to putting away this Russia

869
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: collusion nonsense and to slapping down the Democrats and their

870
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: media allies in a way that we can get enough

871
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: Americans to continue to see what a good thing the

872
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: Trump presidency is going to be for them. I'm invested

873
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: in the success of this country. I want everyone in

874
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: America be doing well, including including crazy leftists who you know,

875
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: don't know what's good for them, right, But I want

876
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: this country to prosper and to do well. And that's

877
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: why the political potency that could come from at least

878
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: the memo is much more important to me than Oh,

879
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna they're gonna charge Peter Struck with Look, I

880
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: mean I could come up with the charges right now,

881
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: maybe conspiracy and maybe and then this is if he's

882
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: done anything wrong, right, But I'm just saying conspiracy and

883
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: official misuse of position or something. I mean guy's not

884
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: gonna spend a minute in jail. Everybody, Okay, this is

885
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to Unless he's engaged in like wire

886
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: fraud or something. That guy's not going any anywhere anyhow.

887
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: They're not even gonna bring charges against him. But that's

888
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: not what matters most. What matters most is getting to

889
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: the truth as it relates to the movement that Donald

890
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: Trump represents and what it's doing for the country. That's

891
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: what I want to get to and when the truth

892
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: comes out and none of these cats could I mean,

893
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: Scooter living with the jail come on, man, right for

894
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, Scooter everyone to jail for

895
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: it was preposterous. They said that they knew that somebody

896
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: else would linked the name. He didn't leak anything. He

897
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: didn't leak anything. And you have idiots running around still.

898
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: I see people immediate wall Scooter or lib you looked

899
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,959
Speaker 1: at No, he didn't leak anything. They said he lied

900
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: about when he found something out when it with regard

901
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: to the investigation of a leaked name. I know about

902
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: this stuff because I know because I was in d

903
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Speaker 1: C and knew knew what was going on with all

904
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: this whole thing at the time, Wayne, Shield Time and

905
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Speaker 1: thank you for calling it from Lexington. Appreciate it very much.

906
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Speaker 1: John in West Virginia, Hey John, about the shield Time man.

907
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Speaker 1: Shield tie to you too, sir, Hey, Uh, you know,

908
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say some things about, you know, all

909
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: these emails and Hillary's everything that the Democrats do. You know,

910
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: they can't find nothing, everything's gone. But you brought up

911
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: the secret Society. When I was sitting here, I was thinking,

912
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: you know, how how long is this? If there is one?

913
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: How long how long has it been going on? I mean,

914
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: like with George Bush, they had weapons of mass destruction

915
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: but they were never found. Well, who gave George Bush

916
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: that information? Was that a set up for him to fail?

917
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: Because right after Bush we got Obama? Well? John, can

918
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: I just can I just say that that that we're

919
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: now I think seeing the potency of individuals who are

920
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: ideologically opposed to conservatives and the Republican Party in the

921
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: bureaucratic arm of the government. And I think you're raising

922
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: a very interesting point, which is there were Comy's and

923
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: structs and pages and McCabe's and oh my, long before

924
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: Trump even came on the scene. And what do we

925
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: think they you know, how how has the game been

926
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Speaker 1: played that we didn't know about with individuals like that

927
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Speaker 1: during the Bush administration and before war. So I think

928
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: that's a very interesting point. Yeah, because it just seems

929
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: like he was kind of set up because he was

930
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: left with his pants down because he put all those

931
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: soldiers over there and people died and they never found anything,

932
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: and that that was a big scar on his record. Well,

933
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: the deep state, the deep state is not is not new.

934
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Speaker 1: I think is a is a fair when to make

935
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Speaker 1: I mean Bush with WMD, that's a whole other we'd

936
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Speaker 1: have to go into a whole other area discussion. John,

937
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: but shield Shi and thank you for calling in from

938
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: from West Virginia. Uh. You know it's uh, it's remarkable, folks,

939
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: it really is. Uh watching this whole thing layout and

940
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: I I wonder how long they can kind of keep

941
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: the ruse going over it at CNN At MSNBC. There

942
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: are there are people at MSNBC. You have to know

943
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: that they're just it's unfortunate. But in the news business

944
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: for a lot of people feeding feeding disinformation to your audience,

945
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: and you know, finding out what you think will get

946
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: the most attention and what the largest percentage of the

947
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: audience wants to hear is is unfortunately good business in

948
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Speaker 1: a lot of cases. And so that's why you get this.

949
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: That's how CNN can be running night after and now

950
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: whether this is good business or not as a different discussion, see,

951
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: and then makes a lot of its money. For those

952
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: of you are wondering, how can I have such crap

953
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: ratings in the United States but still being business making

954
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: a lot of money? See, it makes a ton of

955
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: money internationally because it's also providing news content and countries

956
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: that you know it does CNN international, it's all it's

957
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: in the airports all of the world and stuff. So

958
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: that's why you know they can get away with at

959
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: some level not being particularly watched here in the States

960
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: because they're making money internationally, which also I think effects

961
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: our editorial line quite a bit. There's a reason why

962
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: they're like, well, what does wor ald opinions say about that? Sir?

963
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: And now every in America is like, first of all,

964
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: what does world opinion even mean? It's a meaningless phrase?

965
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: And second of all, who cares even if they could

966
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: tell me what world opinion was? Look skills based? But

967
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: were all the Pennon dictates it done. I'd be like,

968
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: I don't care about this world opinion. Right I live

969
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: in America. I'm concerned with my fellow Americans, what's going

970
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: on in this country. And you know, as a human being,

971
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: I wish the best for everybody else, But like, I

972
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: don't really care what their political opinions are. You know,

973
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: from you know, the Philippines to Sweden to Botswana, I

974
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: don't care what they think about our politics period at all.

975
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: Full stop care about what Americans think. And I'm hoping

976
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: to convince some of them to agree with me on

977
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: stuff eight four or four nine under two eight to five.

978
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: We've got to get into some immigration talk. Also a

979
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: bit of follow up, a bit of follow up to

980
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: the shutdown, the Schumer shutdown, just for fun, just for giggles.

981
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: We might get out of that later on this hour

982
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: and next hour. As I said, we've got Shaun Davis

983
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: joining from the Federalist and uh also our friend Andrew Arthur,

984
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: who's an immigration expert, to talk about Remember that long

985
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: California that I said I had done a reading of

986
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: and I came out and told you that from what

987
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: I can see, they're just they're just trying to write

988
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: laws in California now to arrest it, or to frighten

989
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: employers so that they won't be helpful and enforce the immigration.

990
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: We'll have an immigration expert on who literally was in

991
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: charge of enforcing employer sanctions in California. You'll have him

992
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: on in just a little bit talking about that. So

993
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: we've got a lot more comments there right there. Fake

994
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: news is better running high because the butt Sexton Show

995
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: is back. So the shutdown is effectively over because Democrats caved.

996
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: White House was taking a victory lap after Democrats in

997
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: the Senate caved and voted to reopen the government. Democrats

998
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: have relented, accepted nearly all white House terms, the Democrats

999
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: giving in on the dreamers. Did he came? It sounds

1000
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: like there's a lot that wasn't in this deal, Leader Schumer,

1001
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: what one thing did he get? The one thing I

1002
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: would say that he did get is the potential for momentum.

1003
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: There are a lot of Democrats that aren't happy. There

1004
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: are a lot of reasons for democratic activists to be concerned.

1005
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: A huge colossums thing by the Democrats. Schumer sell out.

1006
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: The perception is he got rulled. They are getting their

1007
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: butts kicked the Schumer shut down to the Schumer sellout.

1008
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: I like that, what choice did the guy really have?

1009
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: They were losing. They they thought that they could turn

1010
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: a circle into a square here. They thought they could

1011
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: convince people, we're shutting down the government. Why are a

1012
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: Republicans shutting down the government? We're shutting in the government,

1013
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: But why are they shutting down? That's like it doesn't

1014
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, there's some form of like multiple personality disorder

1015
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: and it just doesn't work. Right. You can't be the

1016
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: guy who's doing something and be like, why are people

1017
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: doing this? And so it didn't work, which is a

1018
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: good thing. I just thought it was funny though, to uh,

1019
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: to see how they're all, oh gosh, what are we

1020
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: gonna do now? And my my favorite though, Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

1021
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: Really she she uh, she's amazing, right, she never fails

1022
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: to deliver with just the dumbest talking points you could

1023
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: possibly find anywhere, delivered with such a lack of self awareness.

1024
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: It's it's a skill, you know. It's pretty incredible in

1025
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: its own way, right. I mean I I almost respected

1026
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: I mock it, but I almost respect it. Like you're

1027
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: the potential for momentum. You know, you could say that

1028
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: there's a potential for a lot of things that come

1029
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: out of the You could even say there's a potential

1030
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: for almost anything policy wise to come out of this.

1031
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: But the potential for momentum is a great way to

1032
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: spend something, right, you know, I I lost a whole

1033
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: bunch of money in the stock market this week, yes,

1034
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: but you you know you've created the potential of making

1035
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,959
Speaker 1: money next week. I mean I guess, right, I mean right, yeah, sure,

1036
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: That's that's one way to look at it. Also, could

1037
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: have just lost a bunch of money, right, and Chuck

1038
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: Schumer maybe just got a free ride on the Trump

1039
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: negotiation school bus. And you know that's kind of the

1040
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: end of it. I look, Trump was the X factor

1041
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: on this one. And it really comes down to also

1042
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: what I've been thinking along, which is that there's no

1043
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: because they couldn't win the argument about shutting down the government,

1044
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: and then how bad a shutdown was There wasn't There

1045
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: wasn't even really a shutdown. It was kind of a

1046
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: a halfway shutdown, right. You know. They didn't do like

1047
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: a cannon ball into the deep end of the pool.

1048
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: They kind of went into the shallow end up to

1049
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: their knees and they're like, oh, let's chili. It got out.

1050
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: You know, that doesn't really count. It wasn't like a

1051
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: real shutdown. But the immigration issue is still what lingers

1052
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: as the main point of debate going forward, and I

1053
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about that coming up here,

1054
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: because this is important and more we understand what's really

1055
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: at stake here where all this is going. And we

1056
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: have an immigration expert joining us in the next hour.

1057
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: But I've got this op ed that I want to

1058
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Speaker 1: share with you, and I'm gonna read a whole a

1059
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: whole bunch of segments from it, some excerpts from it

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Speaker 1: for you, because I think it's very powerful and it

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Speaker 1: will really illuminate some issues in the illegal immigration debate

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Speaker 1: for us in a way that you're just gonna have

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Speaker 1: to wait and see. Why why I'm so set. How

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00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: often do I tell you about just one particular editorial.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty rare. I think you're gonna like this one,

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Speaker 1: so you have to stay with me and hear what

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Speaker 1: it is. Other shows just talking to you in the

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Speaker 1: Freedom Mud, we have a mission. We fight for the

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00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: truth in a team effort and buck us back with

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00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: our next play, I'd like to leave no doubt where

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Speaker 1: the White House stands on the Flake, Graham and Dermott

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Speaker 1: agreement on immigration reform. In a bipartisan meeting here at

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Speaker 1: the White House two weeks ago, we outlined a path

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Speaker 1: forward on four issues, serious border security and end to

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Speaker 1: chain migration, the cancelation of the outdated and unsafety slattery,

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Speaker 1: and a permanent solution to DACCA. Unfortunately, the Flake Graham

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Speaker 1: Durban agreement does not meet these benchmarks. In fact, it

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Speaker 1: would not secure our border, encourage more illegal immigration, increased

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Speaker 1: chain migration, and retain the visa lottery system. In short,

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Speaker 1: it's totally unacceptable to the president. Totally unacceptable to the president.

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Speaker 1: Democrats have not expressed a willingness to do anything other

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Speaker 1: than some minor budgetary maneuvering on immigration in the wall.

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Speaker 1: So how do we think we're going to get to

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Speaker 1: a deal in a few weeks time. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're going to get there. I think the fight that

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Speaker 1: we just had very briefly over DOCCA is going to

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Speaker 1: continue going forward. But before I dig into that some more,

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Speaker 1: because I've talked about DOCCA with some frequency here, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to just share with you and and editorial um

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Speaker 1: that I think does a very good job of outlining

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Speaker 1: the problems of amnesty. And and let me now quote

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Speaker 1: to you from in part this this opinion piece. Quote

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Speaker 1: back in Congress granted amnesty to an estimated three million

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants as part of a law that also promised

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Speaker 1: to crack down on further illegal immigration by imposing sanctions

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Speaker 1: on employers who knowingly violated the law. At that time,

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Speaker 1: this page, so this is the whole editorial board. This

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Speaker 1: is not just one person. This is the editorial board.

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Speaker 1: This page endorsed amnesty because it was tied to measures

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Speaker 1: that promised to keep further rounds of illegal immigration in check.

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Speaker 1: But now years later there are twice as many illegal workers,

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Speaker 1: and employer sanctions are widely deemed a joke. Workers pretend

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Speaker 1: to show employer's proof of citizenship or work visas, and

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Speaker 1: employers pretend they do not know that the proof is fake.

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Speaker 1: The primary problem with amnesties is that they beget more

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Speaker 1: illegal immig ration. Demographers traced the trust of the doubling

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Speaker 1: of the number of Mexican immigrants since nine in part

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Speaker 1: to the amnesty of the nineteen eighties amnesties signal foreign

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Speaker 1: workers that American citizenship can be had by sneaking across

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Speaker 1: the border or staying beyond the term of one's visa

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Speaker 1: and hiding out until Congress passes the next amnesty. Nine

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Speaker 1: eighties amnesty also attracted a large flow of illegal relatives

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Speaker 1: of those workers who became newly legal. All that is

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Speaker 1: unfair to those who play by the immigration rules and

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Speaker 1: way ears to gain legal admission. It is also unfair

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Speaker 1: to unskilled workers already in the United States. Between nineteen

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Speaker 1: eight and the gap between the wages of high school

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Speaker 1: dropouts and all other workers widened substantially. Professor George Borjas

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Speaker 1: of Harvard estimates that almost half of this trend can

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Speaker 1: be traded east to the immigration of unskilled workers. Illegal

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Speaker 1: immigration of unskilled workers induced by another amnesty would make

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Speaker 1: matters worse. The best course of action is to honor

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Speaker 1: America's proud tradition by continuing to welcome legal immigrants and

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Speaker 1: find ways to punish employers who refuse to obey the law.

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Speaker 1: End quote. I mean, that's some really good stuff, right.

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Speaker 1: It really makes the case lays it out. I'm familiar

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Speaker 1: with Professor Borjas's work from Harvard. For those who say

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Speaker 1: that there's no uh that that wages are not depressed

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Speaker 1: in responsibly immigration, they're wrong. It's just they're not depressed

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Speaker 1: on a national level. But that makes sense, right, because

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Speaker 1: you're talking about such a large labor pool on a

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Speaker 1: state by state, county by county level. Because illegal immigration

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Speaker 1: is not universally distributed, it absolutely has an effect on wages.

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Speaker 1: You live in certain parts of Arizona. Guess what unskilled

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Speaker 1: labor working as a handyman, working as a you know,

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01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: as a general contractor, or you know, whatever you've got

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Speaker 1: right that is pressured by the illegal population. It's true.

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Speaker 1: We can do this a whole bunch of places. So

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Speaker 1: but you may be saying, Bob, what, what's what is this?

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Speaker 1: What is the source? And I'm wondering I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you this. Where do you think I found this? Editorial?

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01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: Members from the editorial board. It's not written by one person.

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01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: It's a it was a collective effort. Where do you

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01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: see this this full throated and really clear minded critique

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01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: takedown of amnesty period, No amnesty. Amnesty is bad. Don't

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Speaker 1: do it hurts wages, hurts the prospects of future immigrants,

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Speaker 1: to get into the country, puts on the back along

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. Who wrote this very powerful piece. It

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Speaker 1: was the New York Times. The New York Times editorial

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Speaker 1: board wrote what I just read to you. But they

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Speaker 1: wrote it in two thousands. They wrote it some time ago.

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Speaker 1: Now you could say, Buck, things changed a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: But what part of that editorial actually is no longer valid.

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Speaker 1: I've been telling you about the amnesty for quite some time,

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Speaker 1: and everything I've been telling you is true. It led

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01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: to a much larger ambassy than they said, and there

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01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: was basically no enforcement, and it was a debacle, and

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Speaker 1: it led to a lot more illegal immigration. That is

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Speaker 1: what amnesties do. New York Times recognized that in two thousand,

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Speaker 1: the editorial board the collective people deciding what their opinion is,

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Speaker 1: which of course also affects a lot of their newsroom coverage. Now,

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Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting. It's it's a good article,

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Speaker 1: and it was you know, made the case well, and

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Speaker 1: there was I didn't read you the beginning parts about it,

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Speaker 1: which were about the a f l C. I oh,

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Speaker 1: because the unions. We're saying that they want amnesty, but

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01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: the unions want ambassy, because they want the illegals to

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Speaker 1: no longer be illegal so they can join unions because

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Speaker 1: unions need members. That's a whole other part of this discussion.

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Speaker 1: But one thing that I think we have to keep

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Speaker 1: in mind here is we go forward. We talked about

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Speaker 1: DOCCA and amnesty, and what that will mean is that

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Speaker 1: was the New York Times xenophobic? Was the New York

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Speaker 1: Times racist as recently as the year two thousand? Was

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01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: their editorial board just full of all right racists? Or

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01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,959
Speaker 1: did maybe they just understand what was obvious and true

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Speaker 1: about illegal immigration then, But now because of certain very

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Speaker 1: prominent investors who have policy preference for illegal immigration, because

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Speaker 1: of the changing climate of the Democrat Left party in

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Speaker 1: this country, they completely repudiate to all of this. But

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Speaker 1: all the points that I made to you, or all

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Speaker 1: the points that I read to you from this piece,

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Speaker 1: and it's much of it is a repetition of what

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01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: I've said to you here on the show before, is

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Speaker 1: not just still valid, it's even more valid. The immigration

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01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: illegal immigration problem has only gotten worse. The effect on

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Speaker 1: wages has only increased, The debt burden from illegals in

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Speaker 1: this country has only been exacerbated. But what was So

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Speaker 1: what happened between now and then? Oh, the demographic realities

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Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party have also changed. Not only has

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Speaker 1: the ownership of the New York Times changed, which those

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Speaker 1: you are curious and see how much money. At one point,

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Speaker 1: Carlos Slim, Carlo Slim, who is a Mexican billionaire, basically

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Speaker 1: stopped the New York Times from going bankrupt. But the

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Speaker 1: reality is not just of New York Times ownership and

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Speaker 1: and its needs to get some cash, but also the

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Speaker 1: demographic reality the Democrat Democratic Party changed. You know, the

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Speaker 1: Democrats realized that their pathway to the best pathway to

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Speaker 1: Democrat dominance is to is to make new voters by

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Speaker 1: bringing them in from the outside. And that's the way

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Speaker 1: to do it, not trying to debate in front of

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Speaker 1: the American people about what the Democrat platform really is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, as much as I find Bernie

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01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: Sanders to be kind of refreshing and even somewhat uh

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01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: somewhat charming in comparison to his other Democrat Senate colleagues,

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Speaker 1: his policies would wreck the country and it would be

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Speaker 1: a disaster. So and and he's an economic illiterate, right, So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Democrats if they really got their way. You know,

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Speaker 1: we see this with Obamacare. Does anybody think Obamacare was

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Speaker 1: this great, uh you know, country saving act of legislation

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Speaker 1: that we spent so much time talking about. Everything's no Obamacare.

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Speaker 1: I have friends who have had to go on it stinks.

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Speaker 1: It stinks. It's just a regis. It's a crappy redistribution

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Speaker 1: of wealth program under the guys of healthcare that doesn't

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Speaker 1: deal with any of the underlying problems in the healthcare market,

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01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: doesn't increase care. I know. It's well, I'm sure soon

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Speaker 1: we'll be able to talk about healthcare a lot again

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Speaker 1: on the show. The point I'm just making is that

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Speaker 1: Democrats aren't gonna win on the merits. They're gonna win

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01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: by making new voters. That's the plan here, and I

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Speaker 1: think that sharing with you that New York Times piece

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Speaker 1: from Okay, granted it was almost twenty years ago now,

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Speaker 1: but how could it be that now opposition to an

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01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 1: amnesty is is very widely derided by the Democrat media

1225
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: as being rooted in nativism and racism and xenophobia. But

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01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 1: it was just understood twenty years ago that amnesties are bad.

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Speaker 1: Amnesties be getting more amnesties. Amnesties particularly hurt African American

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Speaker 1: workers in this country. And it's unfair to the legal

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01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: immigrants who are doing what they're supposed to do to

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01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 1: come into the country. These are all still things that apply.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that's changes now it's eleven million of

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Speaker 1: legals in the country and the Democrats have been pushing

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Speaker 1: for amnesty and for uh, they've been pushing for a

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01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: legal immigration folks, the Democrat Party. I mean, this is

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01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 1: the really the underlying truth of all this is that

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party has been colluding with illegal immigration for

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01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: a long time now. They are pro illegal immigration, They

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01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: want illegals in the country, they want more to come

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Speaker 1: into the country. They are favorable toward this lawbreaking. They

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01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: are willing to trade the sovereignty of this country for

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01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: the votes that it garners for them. Full stop. That's

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Speaker 1: what's been happening here. It is a sellout of the

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01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: American people, all of us from all backgrounds, from all

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Speaker 1: of the world who came here legally or have been here.

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Speaker 1: Our families have been here for a very long time, right.

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01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: It is a sell out of all of us. And

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01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: there's really no answer to that. And because we've seen.

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01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: They have no answer to it. Because we've seen what

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01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: the changes can be from rapid infusion of immigrants all

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01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: from one background or one culture or one ideology in

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Speaker 1: Europe and what that can do to a country. People

1252
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: are like, WHOA hold on a second, Maybe we should

1253
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: think a little more about this. Maybe the American people

1254
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: could be consulted by their elected representatives about what we

1255
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: think about this. But no, no, you'll you'll just hear

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01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: more about how it's racist. Racist. We have to we

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01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: all the dreamers, what are we gonna They're all valedictorians

1258
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: and they just wanted the American dream. It's amazing, isn't it.

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01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: I just think it's interest in New York Times twenty

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Speaker 1: years ago, a bunch of racists over the New York Times,

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01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,799
Speaker 1: racists opposed to amnesty, or maybe they just were thinking

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01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: clearly then and now they've they've sold out and there's

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01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: no turning back for them. I think we can all

1264
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: come to our own conclusions about which one of those

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Speaker 1: is more likely. We'll be right back. We're going to

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Speaker 1: the World Economic Form to share President Trump's economic story

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01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: and to tell the world that America is open for business.

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Speaker 1: We want the world to invest in America and to

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Speaker 1: great jobs for hard working Americans. President Trump's economic agenda

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Speaker 1: has unleashed the U. S economy and we are growth.

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Speaker 1: His policies have led to a rising stock market, low unemployment,

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Speaker 1: and strong GDP growth. The administration's commitment to deregulation that

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Speaker 1: are passing of comprehensive tax reform have helped level the

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Speaker 1: playing field for our businesses and our workers. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we should leave out of our conversations here what

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Speaker 1: a quiet panic the left finds itself in right now,

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Speaker 1: even that here we are a year into the a

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Speaker 1: year into the Trump presidency, almost exactly here into it,

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Speaker 1: and countries doing great, right. Economy is really good. Employment

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Speaker 1: is really good. I mean, unemployment is very low. You

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Speaker 1: got all that, you got, all this bonus is coming out.

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Speaker 1: Tax reform happened. I mean, you know, I remember, I'm

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Speaker 1: a little if you remember we all are, right that

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Speaker 1: year ago or so, we were being told that that

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Speaker 1: financial and nuclear armageddon we're both waiting in the wings.

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Speaker 1: It was just a matter of time. And now here

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Speaker 1: we are and we're like, things are great. And I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing from people who tend to be at least market skeptics,

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Speaker 1: you know, especially when things are looking really good. They're

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Speaker 1: the guys who start looking at things like it might

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Speaker 1: be time to batten down the hatches a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, no, I think we've got another another

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Speaker 1: year or two a really strong growth. And then things

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Speaker 1: make cool off a little bit. But it doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that things are gonna be in the toilet, right, It

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Speaker 1: just means that things might slow down a little bit.

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Speaker 1: This is great, This is all really good for the country.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're not caught up in a in some

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Speaker 1: large scale, uh terrible grinder of a foreign war, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean we're we're not. We're I know, there's we

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Speaker 1: have troops in harm's way in a rock and Afghanistan still,

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Speaker 1: but at least we're not in in country in a

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight thousand and patrolling all the streets

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Speaker 1: ourselves and everything else. Right, the country's economy is doing

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Speaker 1: really well. Isis is on the run, And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking around and I'm like, what's the what do

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Speaker 1: they have to They're still clearing this Russia thing. I

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Speaker 1: just think that there's some level of deep embarrassment that

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Speaker 1: they're trying to avoid two. And those are for those

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Speaker 1: that have some shred of decency or honesty or integrity.

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Speaker 1: And I think that there are people who are uh

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Speaker 1: never Trump, who have been, who have come around. And

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Speaker 1: I remember reading recently a and she's a very very

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Speaker 1: good writer, a very smart lady. Um At Molly Hemingway.

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Speaker 1: She writes The Federalist. We've got Shaun Davis, who's co

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Speaker 1: founder of the Federalists, coming on here in just a

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Speaker 1: few minutes. She looks she wasn't she wasn't never Trump,

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Speaker 1: but she wasn't really a Trump fan. She's like, look

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Speaker 1: after his first year, one of my on what grounds

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Speaker 1: as a conservative? Am I supposed to be complaining? Really?

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Speaker 1: I mean I know that as I say this, CNN

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Speaker 1: evangelicals of Trump a do over amid porn star allegations

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Speaker 1: and any past behavior. Yeah, that's let's let's focus on

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Speaker 1: the economy. Is is flying high, Things are going great.

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Speaker 1: Trump is crushing it. Crump crump, Trump just essentially pile

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Speaker 1: drive Shoomer and all the rest of them. And CNN

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Speaker 1: wants to run stories on evangelical hypocrisy or something, right,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're trying to get out with that oh,

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Speaker 1: evangelicals are being so hypocritical on Trump. It's like it's

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Speaker 1: just they never they're never gonna, never gonna figure out

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Speaker 1: that doesn't work, first of all. Or MSNBC is already

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Speaker 1: doing that. So they're competing with the channel that's already

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Speaker 1: we hate Trump all the time always, and they're like, no,

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Speaker 1: we hate Trump too, and like no, we hate trouble Boy.

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Speaker 1: They're like, we hate Trump. How many hate Trump channels

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Speaker 1: can you have before? It's like, we got it, this

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Speaker 1: is covered, we understand. You know, it's amazing, you know.

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Speaker 1: Barnaroma over at Fox Business had this to say. I

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Speaker 1: was speaking with some business people in Europe the other

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Speaker 1: day and they told me that had a whole strategy

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Speaker 1: to invest in Europe, and after the tax plan in

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Speaker 1: the US, they've completely shifted their strategy and now they're

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Speaker 1: shifting that money away from Europe and into the US.

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Speaker 1: So this tax legislation that the President signed into law

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Speaker 1: earlier this year, this is shifting plans across the world.

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Speaker 1: It's not just benefiting America. It's also changing direction for

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Speaker 1: some money that was earmarked elsewhere. So it's very powerful. YEP,

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Speaker 1: tax reformers having all kinds of. But was there ever

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Speaker 1: anything that the obamainistration did that had similar effects to this?

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was a there was a whole trillion

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Speaker 1: dollar stimulus that was just a giveaway for Democrat interests

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Speaker 1: and unions in the left, but it didn't didn't get

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Speaker 1: the economy roaring right. People are always save the financial system. No,

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Speaker 1: that was the bank bellot. That's a different thing. People

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Speaker 1: conflate them, but different. Uh. Here we are. Look, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have uh an immigration expert joining us here

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Speaker 1: in just a few minutes to address the specifics of

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Speaker 1: that California law that I was telling you about. That's

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Speaker 1: a real even for those of us who have very

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Speaker 1: low opinion of what Democrats are trying to do on immigration,

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Speaker 1: people like me, it's still kind of shocking. So we'll

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Speaker 1: have him joining us on that. I want to hear

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Speaker 1: from our friend Shawn Davis from the Federal shortly about

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Speaker 1: the text messages and the latest and the FBI. He's

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Speaker 1: he digs very deep into all that and as a

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Speaker 1: as an excellent analyst of it. Also got some thoughts

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Speaker 1: on student debt, student loan debt and defaults on that.

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Speaker 1: I know that doesn't necessarily, you know, send everybody in

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Speaker 1: a wow student loan debt, but it's it's important and

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Speaker 1: for a lot of you listening, even if you don't

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Speaker 1: have to worry about student loan debt, your kids, if

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Speaker 1: they don't already, probably will have to. So we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that and then we'll get some roll calls. So

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Speaker 1: jam packed our three on the way. So the shutdown

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Speaker 1: is over everybody, but the fight over immigration looms. In fact,

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Speaker 1: you could argue that Democrats have only turned up the heat,

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Speaker 1: or at least they think they have. They believe there's

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Speaker 1: going to be some conclusion to the Dhaka issue. A

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Speaker 1: reach arrived at in the next arrived out in the

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Speaker 1: next few weeks. Well what's really going on with all

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Speaker 1: of that? And much more on the immigration front, we

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Speaker 1: have Andrew Arthur with this now. He's a resident fellow

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Speaker 1: in law and Policy at the Center for Immigration Studies,

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Speaker 1: And you're going to have you back. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me. Great to be here. So I I spoke

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Speaker 1: earlier on the show and this was just my own

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Speaker 1: I saw this clip and I tracked down what I

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Speaker 1: could about this law in California hb R SP fifty

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Speaker 1: four and here is what the Attorney General the state

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Speaker 1: of California had to say about it. Play. And it's

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Speaker 1: important that employers in California understand what these new laws

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Speaker 1: are because ignorance of the law does not let you

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Speaker 1: escape punishment. And we want our our employers, who are

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Speaker 1: working really hard to keep our economy going and employed

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Speaker 1: more folks to understand what these new laws are. And

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure, given these swirling rumors

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Speaker 1: about what might be going on, to just be aware

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Speaker 1: of what their rights and their responsibilities are. So is

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Speaker 1: that to say, if you find their employers who have

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Speaker 1: violated ad is your office? Are you guys ready to

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Speaker 1: go after them? If there are violators of California law

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Speaker 1: out there, uh, law enforcement will investigate and prosecuting authorities

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Speaker 1: could be the local prosecuting authorities or could be the

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Speaker 1: Attorney General's office will prosecute those who violate the law.

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Speaker 1: All right, Andrew, so talent California's passed the log here

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Speaker 1: targeting employers that they're saying they'll prosecute the employers for when,

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Speaker 1: and from what I read, it's saying that if you

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Speaker 1: share information with the FEDS and you're not supposed to

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come after you. What's going on here? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, fifty is a very unusual law, particularly in

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Speaker 1: light of the arguments that California made back in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and twelve in the case of Arizona versus United States.

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Speaker 1: If you remember, Arizona had come up with its own

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Speaker 1: scheme to arrest individuals who are legally president that states

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Speaker 1: and turn them over to Ice, and the government was like, well, well,

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Speaker 1: we don't want these people. And California stepped in and

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Speaker 1: argued vociferously that immigration is strictly a federal issue and

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Speaker 1: that the states have no responsibility, no no area that

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Speaker 1: they should act in. And now they've turned around and

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Speaker 1: passed eight four fifty the Immigrant Worker Protection Act, which

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Speaker 1: is really a piece of work, but it actually works

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Speaker 1: on two levels. The first level is it makes very

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Speaker 1: strong statements, uh, you know you you shall not provide

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Speaker 1: voluntary consent, you shall not share records. But it's full

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Speaker 1: of weasel languages, we like to say. In the law.

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Speaker 1: It begins with except as otherwise required by federal law,

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Speaker 1: and employers shall, and it does that and number of places,

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Speaker 1: and it does that for what I think is a

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Speaker 1: very deceptive reason, and that is they don't want employers

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Speaker 1: to know what their responsibilities are. They want to sow

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Speaker 1: confusion so that they can force the employers to not

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Speaker 1: comply with immigration law, even though the employers are required

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Speaker 1: to comply with immigration law. So that that was my

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Speaker 1: initial read of this as somebody who doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: legal background but does a lot of reading, I was like,

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Speaker 1: this seems like it's designed specifically to be vague so

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Speaker 1: they could attach threats and the vagueness would work together

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Speaker 1: so that people would feel like, well, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get in trouble here, so I just better not

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Speaker 1: say anything about the illegal immigrants who may be working

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Speaker 1: for me. That's exactly right. The Attorney General in this

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Speaker 1: instance is a bully, and what he has attempted to

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Speaker 1: do is bully employers in the state of California into

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Speaker 1: not complying with valid federal law. How would that even work?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what would under this and I guess it's

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Speaker 1: California state Senate bill or what is it called Assembly

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Speaker 1: bill for fifties Assembly bill? Thank you? How is it

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Speaker 1: that one could based on your reading, even how could

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Speaker 1: an employer violate this law? What would a violation even

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Speaker 1: look like I have no idea. And keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: at one time, for a period of four years, I

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Speaker 1: was the employer sanctions counsel in the San Francisco District

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Speaker 1: of the I S. I had jurisdiction over employer sanctions

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Speaker 1: for two thirds of the state of California. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not unfamiliar with California law. Looking at this, I

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Speaker 1: have no idea what a violation would be. Because the

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Speaker 1: fact is employers. You know, employers are required upon notice

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Speaker 1: to give information to the government, to give I nines

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Speaker 1: to the government. That's how we That's how our employer

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Speaker 1: sanctions scheme works. It's paperwork that gets turned over to

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Speaker 1: the government. Now, the one provision that is interesting is

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Speaker 1: that they have to give notice to employees when there's

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Speaker 1: a problem. Basically, what that does is its employees the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to run before they get caught by eyes. So

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Speaker 1: so there's this California and everybody we're just we're talking

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Speaker 1: to areh Andrew Arthur here also known as art from

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Speaker 1: the Center for Immigration Studies, used to be in charge

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Speaker 1: of employer sanctions in the state of Colorado for ones

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, State of California for one section of the state,

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Speaker 1: and he's saying he can't even tell you what a

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Speaker 1: violation of this new California law would be. And oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, what you just told me is really

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Speaker 1: mind blowing, Andrew, and that is that California law now

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Speaker 1: is telling people that they can't in fact tell federal

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Speaker 1: and that that that the employers will get in trouble

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Speaker 1: for passing along the information. Again, it's it's written in

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Speaker 1: such vague language that it's intended to scare the employers

1478
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: more than it actually is intended to sanction the employers.

1479
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: And for that reason, I think that the Attorney General

1480
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions, who has shown no reluctance whatsoever to go after,

1481
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 1: uh the sanctuary cities, this will give Jeff Sessions a

1482
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: strong reason to go after the State of California about

1483
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: this law. And I got a feeling that what you're

1484
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: gonna see is a district court, a circuit court, or

1485
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 1: maybe the Supreme Court will step in and actually say,

1486
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, either one the laws invalid is written, which

1487
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: they may do, or to say, okay, the laws salid,

1488
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: but it doesn't really do anything. And that will actually

1489
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: provide the guidance to the employers. What's going on to

1490
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: wait for that, Yeah, it's gonna take a while. What's

1491
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: going on with the sanctuary city showdown in California specifically?

1492
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 1: There have been a few UH local politicians, city politicians.

1493
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: I'm sure people in the State Assembly in California are

1494
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: getting in on this too, But just folks out in

1495
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: California work for the government in one capacity or another,

1496
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: are saying, Oh, I'll go to prison before I give

1497
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: up on sanctuary city policy, or I'll get arrested before

1498
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: I give what are they even referring to? Well, UH

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01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: ICE director Tom Holme it had suggested that there should

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01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: be sanctions and you know, against the the individuals from

1501
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: these you know, towns and localities who enforce these sanctuary

1502
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:15,480
Speaker 1: laws that are in essence hiding or sheltering these aliens.

1503
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: Um and again, the validity of the ability to do that,

1504
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely clear on. But this is a very

1505
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: inventive attorney general, and he's a fellow who knows the

1506
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 1: immigration laws backwards and forwards. I'd consider myself an immigration expert,

1507
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 1: but I'm nowhere near on Jeff Sessions as level. So

1508
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 1: I think that he's going to work his way through this,

1509
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: and he's going to find a way to come down

1510
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: with some serious sanctions. Now I don't know whether that

1511
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: I doubt it's going to be jail, but it's probably

1512
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, pulling some federal funding from a

1513
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: lot of these localities that depend on federal funding because

1514
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: of course California is broke. Tell me about the and

1515
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: they're speaking of Andrew Arthur of the Center for Immigration

1516
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 1: Studies here. Everyone tell me Andrew about your piece on

1517
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: c i S dot org. There is no deadline on

1518
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: DOCCA because coming out of the shutdown, the one thing

1519
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: that Democrats can say is, well, we're gonna have to

1520
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: get a deal the next time around, and that was

1521
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: the deal this time was next time we get a deal.

1522
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 1: That's what Democrats are saying on DOCCA specifically, right And

1523
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: it's interesting because March fifth keeps getting thrown around as

1524
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: a deadline for DOCCA, but in reality, under the laws

1525
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 1: exists right now, there is no deadline. And we go

1526
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 1: back to California, as we often do when it comes

1527
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 1: to immigration. Judge William outs Up of the Northern District

1528
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: of California the Federal Court in San Francisco issued an

1529
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: order that said that UH DOCCA had to continue indefinitely,

1530
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: and in fact, u S Citizenship and Immigration Services has

1531
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: been forced to reopen its acceptance of renewals for DOCCA

1532
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: beneficiaries so that they can renew their status UH and

1533
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: that includes individuals whose status expired after the October fifth

1534
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: deadline that have been set by the then Acting Secretary

1535
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 1: of Homeland Security, Elaine Duke. So right now there is

1536
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: no docket deadline. What do you make of concerns that

1537
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 1: if there is a DOCTA deal, no matter how it

1538
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: is written or worded, you know, no matter what the

1539
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:19,799
Speaker 1: legislation looks like, the congressional fix, how that comes out,

1540
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 1: that there will be challenges. People will that effectively, an

1541
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: amnesty for some becomes an amnesty for a lot more

1542
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: based on the way the system actually works. Well inevitably,

1543
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:36,480
Speaker 1: whenever you have any of these amnesties, there's always you know, litigation,

1544
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: Oh I sent my information in but it got lost

1545
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 1: in the mail or somebody told me I couldn't do it,

1546
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: or something like that. So that's you know, one of

1547
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: the many problems with the amnesties is that eventually you

1548
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 1: have you know, litigation that involves a group of people

1549
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: that gets resolved. But in this particular instance, if Congress

1550
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: grants some sort of regularized status to these individuals, and

1551
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: I think that we've or from you know, the President

1552
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: and uh, the other end of Pennsylvania avenue on this

1553
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 1: that you know, that will be federal law that will

1554
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: be enforced, and the fact is that will largely be

1555
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 1: unassailable by any sort of court action. You will not

1556
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 1: have another group of individuals could step in after the

1557
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 1: fact to say, oh, we should be included too. You

1558
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: think that a doctor fix then does include permanent legal

1559
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: status and that Trump will sign that. Well, you know

1560
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: the what is the doctor fixed? Tell me? Well, you know,

1561
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: right now it looks like a variety of different things.

1562
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: Securing America's Future Act, which is the good Latin McCall

1563
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: bill in the House, provides three years of nonimmigrant status

1564
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: renewable for individuals who have who are document of fisheries. Uh.

1565
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: And that goes on indefinitely. And you know, some of

1566
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: those people, as time goes on, will eventually get green

1567
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 1: cards because they'll get it through another method. In the Senate,

1568
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,839
Speaker 1: they're talking about, you know, a direct path to green cards.

1569
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: For these individuals. So it could take any number of

1570
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 1: different um, any number of different UH status is that

1571
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 1: would be possible outcomes here. All right, fair enough, Andrew Arthur,

1572
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 1: everybody the Center for Immigration Studies c i S dot

1573
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: org for his latest and all the rest that they're

1574
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,759
Speaker 1: doing over at the Center Immigration Studies. Andrew always appreciate

1575
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: you making the time. Thank you, sir, Thank you for

1576
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: having me. Great talk to you as always. Alright, team,

1577
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna roll into a quick break here. We got

1578
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: a lot more showcoming, so stay right there. Should people

1579
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 1: take out big loans to go to college? It's a

1580
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: question that I think this country is going to have

1581
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: to spend a lot more time on in the years ahead.

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01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 1: Peace out based on information presented by the Brookings Institution,

1583
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 1: which is a left of center democrat leaning but not

1584
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 1: totally leftist think tank, and they think that for students,

1585
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: this is from the from the research paper for students

1586
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 1: who took out utteral loans in two thousand and four,

1587
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: default rates will reach nearly for by that means four

1588
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 1: out of every ten students will default by UH. This

1589
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: is time for a total rethink of what higher education

1590
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: spending should be. The setup that we currently have for it,

1591
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 1: and it's trouably. You read through the study and it

1592
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: shows that there are most of the people that are

1593
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 1: most affected by this, the overwhelmingly the highest percentage of

1594
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 1: defaults and all the of the economic woes that come

1595
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 1: along with that, because never student loan debt, you can't

1596
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: default even in bankruptcy, so it just it just follows

1597
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: you around like a specter forever um. The people that

1598
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: are most affected by that are going to for profit colleges,

1599
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: and four profit colleges, as the name implies, see a

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01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 1: market opportunity. I don't know, some of you probably listening

1601
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: went to for profit colleges and had a great experience.

1602
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's not possible. I'm not saying that

1603
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: for profit colleges are a bad thing, but they are

1604
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 1: the biggest single problem when you look at student loan

1605
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 1: debt and what's going to really affect a lot of

1606
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 1: people for much of their lives going forward. Because here's

1607
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 1: what's happened in the country. We've we've all been told

1608
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 1: you have to have a degree, right, you have to

1609
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 1: go beyond high school and you have to have a degree.

1610
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 1: And the truth is that if everybody has a degree,

1611
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,759
Speaker 1: then a degree no longer has quite the same value.

1612
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: Education for skills that you really have that are marketable

1613
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 1: is one thing, but education as a credential is different

1614
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 1: is another thing. If you learn, for example, how to

1615
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 1: be an electrician, you you can make a really good

1616
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 1: living right there. Electricians do very well. I specialized electricians

1617
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,839
Speaker 1: make pretty crazy money. I mean they really really good livings,

1618
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: really serious wages no matter where you are in the country. Uh,

1619
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, not brain surgeon money, but but pretty good

1620
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 1: of the better than struggling radio host money. I'll tell

1621
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: you that. So there's that, and there's others that come

1622
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 1: to mind. You can you know, there's uh, I believe

1623
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 1: you know, welders by the hour do very well. I

1624
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 1: mean there's different professions h vac in installers, people that

1625
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 1: have a specific marketable skill. To learn that is one thing.

1626
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: But to go and you know, get a degree, and

1627
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever it is that people are studying

1628
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 1: at some of these programs that are for profit colleges.

1629
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,719
Speaker 1: If if it's not translating into a job right away,

1630
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 1: the credential is not that valuable. People are not going

1631
01:31:56,120 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: to see a for profit college degree and kick the

1632
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 1: door wide open. And that's been kind of the implicit

1633
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: or I know, maybe it's even explicit promise of higher

1634
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: education for a long time in this country. I just

1635
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 1: think it's garbage. I see so many people that are

1636
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: very smart and very driven who didn't finish college, only

1637
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 1: did maybe went to college for a little bit, and

1638
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 1: or they never went. Or it should be based on

1639
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 1: whether or not it's necessary for your field. I think

1640
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 1: the idea that we all should be racking up dead

1641
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: and going to school from eighteen to twenty two roughly

1642
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 1: if you go to a four year college is just

1643
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 1: I just think it's just crazy. And the world has

1644
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 1: changed a lot, and what's marketable and what's needed, what's necessary?

1645
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 1: You know what I've seen, and this is I've had

1646
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: to do a fair amount of hiring over the years,

1647
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: as well as a lot of applying for jobs, but

1648
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: I've also had to hire people. The skill of having

1649
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 1: a job is one of the most important skills you

1650
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 1: want if you're going to give someone a job, meaning

1651
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 1: that one of the number one things that you can

1652
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: look for and that somebody really needs is handling and

1653
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: managing the day to day responsibilities of being somewhere at

1654
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 1: a certain time for a certain period of time, and

1655
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 1: doing what is asked and doing it in a way

1656
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: that it is sufficient or better than sufficient, right meeting

1657
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: job responsibilities. I think a lot of people, and I

1658
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 1: see this among friends of mine who just go to

1659
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 1: one one degree after another and kind of always lingering

1660
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 1: around the academy in some way. Oh you know, I'm

1661
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm working on my masters or I'm working on my

1662
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:36,600
Speaker 1: my PhD. And you know, you get in this in

1663
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:40,520
Speaker 1: this situation where you never have to show up and execute,

1664
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be that that's your job

1665
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 1: you want to do forever. It doesn't have to be

1666
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 1: that you know that the first job you ever you

1667
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 1: ever have is what you're locked into forever. My generation,

1668
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: roughly speaking, millennials, we're switching jobs all over the place.

1669
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: You know, we're switching jobs like it's going out of style.

1670
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: And I just think that there needs to be a

1671
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 1: shift in education. But back to the default issue, and

1672
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 1: if you have forty to fault, there's a trillion dollars

1673
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: of student loan dead outstanding. If you get up to

1674
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: a fort to fault, right, that's for everybody who's borrowed

1675
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 1: after the year two thousand and four, that the year

1676
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 1: that I graduated college. That's gonna have a real effect.

1677
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 1: And you know what's gonna be amazing. And I can

1678
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 1: guarantee you this that will be a very compelling Democrat

1679
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: data point because the federal government has been back stopping

1680
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 1: all these loans. So the federal government says, well, we're

1681
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 1: we're going to back stop the loans, and so banks

1682
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 1: have been able to lend out money to anybody, get

1683
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 1: get a percentage on it as long as it's for

1684
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 1: student loans, and they're not gonna be left holding the

1685
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 1: bag at the end of the day. It's great for banks.

1686
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 1: So what will happen is they'll be a Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: asked political movement that just says, you know, make them

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01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 1: will go away, disappear. I mean, they're just gonna say

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Speaker 1: that it's it was unfair and you know, raw, rob

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders America. Now it maybe at some point in

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Speaker 1: the future, I don't know if Bernie is going to

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01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 1: be in condition to be leading this movement, but nonetheless,

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01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 1: the same idea will be prevalent, and that's that debt

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01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: forgiveness is a political issue. And all you need is

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01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 1: a political consensus and you will just wipe away. But

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01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: think about what that will do for I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't even I was gonna say, I don't know. No

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01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 1: one knows what that's gonna do. If all of a

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01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: sudden you just take all of this accumulated debt and say, well,

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01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 1: because we say so, it's gone now. I just think

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01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 1: that will rock the markets. But yeah, defaults coming up.

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01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: That's that's the latest analysis on student loans. So I

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01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: I know what I speak of here. Try to avoid debt, everybody,

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01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 1: unless it's for a home and it's a home you're

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01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 1: gonna live in, at a home you love, avoid debt

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01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. So what's this about Comey

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01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: claiming that the buddy that lee the memo to the

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01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:05,640
Speaker 1: New York Times that Comey leaked to him is in

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01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 1: fact his lawyer. This is just getting crazier and crazier, folks.

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Speaker 1: We've got somebody joining us now who can answer that question,

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01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 1: or at least give us the closest thing to an

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01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,759
Speaker 1: answer out there, and a whole lot more. Sean Davis

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01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 1: is with us. He is co founder of the Federalist

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01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: He's a super sharp guy, and we want to ask

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01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 1: him for some opinion. Sean Grett, to have you back,

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01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 1: great to be back, Thank you for having me. All right, man,

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01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 1: what Comey? What's with Comey? What's he doing now? Uh?

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01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 1: He seems to be sanctimoniously tweeting stupid inspirational quotes on

1719
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 1: Twitter while simultaneously patting himself on the back for being

1720
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 1: the last honest man in America. But the big hullabaloo

1721
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 1: today Um goes back to his testimony before Congress last year.

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01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 1: Now you'll remember that after he got fired, he took

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Speaker 1: a bunch of memos he says he wrote a while

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01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: FBI director, and he took him home with him, and

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Speaker 1: he leaks them to a friend of his who's locks

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01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 1: stir at Columbia, And he told that friend, you've got

1727
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 1: to leave these to the media. We've got to get

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01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: a special council to go after the guy who fired me.

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01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 1: New York Times publishes allegedly excerpts from it. Special council

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01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 1: gets uh appointed, and then we're off to the races. Well,

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01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 1: today we find that this attorney, this law professor Um,

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01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: who took those leaks from Comey which were illegal by

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01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 1: the way classified information at Porting Center Athlete. That attorney

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01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,520
Speaker 1: is now claiming to have been and to be Comey's

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01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 1: personal attorney. And when I talked to him on the

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01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: phone earlier today, he would not tell me when that

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01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 1: legal work for Coomy began. He wouldn't tell me if

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01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 1: he was acting officially as Comy's attorney when they had

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01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 1: that those discussions about the coordinated illegal league. He wouldn't

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01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 1: say whether he was Comy's attorney when Comy characterized him

1741
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 1: under oath before Congress is just a friend. And the

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01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 1: interesting thing that's going on here is it looks to

1743
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 1: me as a centic on the outside, is that this

1744
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:01,639
Speaker 1: is a very brazen way for this person to shield

1745
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 1: the communication that he and Tomy had coordinating their illegal

1746
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 1: leaks from any sort of law enforcement scrutiny. And that's

1747
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 1: important because The New York Times reported today that Tommy

1748
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 1: was actually interviewed by the Special Council about what he

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01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 1: did with all those memos. So at the plot stickened

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01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 1: quite a lot today, Sean, everybody just you know, it

1751
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 1: was chief investigator for Senator Tom Coburn and has worked

1752
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 1: up on the Hill, so he knows the ins and

1753
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 1: outs of this stuff quite a bit firsthand, Sean, what

1754
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 1: are we to make now? I mean, I've been talking

1755
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: about it here on the show, but I wanted your

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01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 1: take on. So now the FBI, Uh, we've got these

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01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 1: new text messages between the the agent and the lawyer.

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01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:47,680
Speaker 1: We've also got the Democrats, it seems, trying to simultaneously

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01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 1: slow role and downplay this. Fis a memo that we

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01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 1: haven't seen yet. Let me start with the texts. What

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01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 1: what are we supposed to make of these different FBI

1762
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 1: officials now saying some really cryptic, weird stuff that lines

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01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: up with what you'd think you'd see from people that

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01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 1: working against Trump in the time periods we're talking about.

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01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 1: All right, So we know that two top d o

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01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 1: J and FBI officials, Peter Struck and Lisa Page, who

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01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 1: were connodling with each other on the side UM exchanged

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01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 1: we're told, fifty thousand text messages with each other in

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01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 1: seventeen Many of these, curiously, between December fourteen Steen and

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01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 1: the de Mueller was appointed, have magically gone missing. But

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01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 1: of the text that we have seen, they talk about

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01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 1: uh an insurance policy to keep Trump from becoming president.

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01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 1: They talk about a desire to see his businesses fail. Um,

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01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 1: they're talking about a secret society the day after the

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01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 1: election that needs to have a meeting. Um. It goes

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01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 1: beyond mere bias. Now. I don't care if if agents

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01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: have personal political opinions. We all do. The question is

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01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: whether they were able to sign load those opinions and

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01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 1: do an honest, above board, ethical a job in their

1780
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 1: official duties and its It's looking like they did, And

1781
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,719
Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of conspiratorial talk. They talk about leech,

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01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 1: they talk about targeting reporters. It is beginning to look

1783
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 1: as if the worst case scenario that a lot of

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01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 1: us thought about over it the d O J and

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01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 1: FBI actually happened, which was that every political investigation there

1786
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 1: of Clinton, of Uranian one of Trump was just a

1787
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:31,759
Speaker 1: political hatchet job from the very beginning, with an outcome

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01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 1: crete determined, and with justice being just a far off

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01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 1: ideal that nobody was really all that concerned about. Do

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Speaker 1: you think we're going to find some answers coming up here, Sean?

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01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 1: There's this memo that's gotten a lot of play and

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01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 1: people talking about release the memo. I can't think of

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01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 1: a reason why the public should not be able to

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01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 1: see at least a redacted version of the memo. Now

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01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 1: the moment, there are redactions, as anybody who has operated

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01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: in that world knows, you can basically get away with

1797
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 1: removing all the all of the meat, I mean, all

1798
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 1: the important stuff from a memo. But nonetheless, at least

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01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 1: a redacted memo would give us something. And if it's

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01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 1: all blacked outlines are mostly blacked outlines, then we'd have

1801
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 1: even more questions, I think. But do you think it's

1802
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 1: as it's gonna be as potent as we're being led

1803
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 1: to believe right now by some members of Congress who

1804
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 1: have seen it, because I'm worried they're over selling it

1805
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 1: right now. In a few weeks, it's gonna be there

1806
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 1: are fives abuses. This is our analysis of it, and

1807
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 1: the Democrats will just say, well, you know you don't

1808
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 1: have enough there. It's not going to change the narrative.

1809
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm hoping I'm wrong. I want to know where you

1810
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 1: are on this. Well. I want to see the document

1811
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to be released, and I want to see

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01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 1: the information that underlies it, the actual flight will warrant,

1813
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 1: the actual d j FBI documents. I want to see

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01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 1: all that I think is an American task peer. As

1815
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 1: a voter, I'm entitled to know what the government is doing. Um,

1816
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 1: if it's doing something improper, to say, spy on its

1817
01:41:55,800 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 1: political opponents who use law enforcement powers against them. UM.

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01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:04,959
Speaker 1: What I find telling is that uh House Intel Committee

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01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 1: has put this report together. They are required by House

1820
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 1: rules to oversee the intelligence communities. They are required by

1821
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 1: House rules to keep Congress informed on what they're doing.

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01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:18,839
Speaker 1: And House Democrats, having seen this information, all voted against

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01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 1: the House Intel pursue it to its congressional obligation from

1824
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: informing the entire Congress. Um. And given how leaky Adam

1825
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 1: shift uh and his his little crew is over there,

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01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: the fact that they're not leaking a single thing about this,

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01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:35,679
Speaker 1: the fact that they've seen the Vice A warrants, they've

1828
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,559
Speaker 1: seen these underlying documents, and they haven't said a word

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01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 1: about it, suggests to me that it's fairly devastating to

1830
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:44,600
Speaker 1: the narrative that's been crammed down our throats for the

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01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: last year. UM. But I'm reserving judgment. I don't know

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01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 1: what's in it. I obviously haven't seen it. Uh, nobody

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01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 1: who's seen it. We'll talk about what's in it. I'm

1834
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: just gonna wait read it for myself, try and get

1835
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 1: the underlying Uh. I hope the underlying information will get out,

1836
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to render a judgment there. How

1837
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 1: certain are you at this point that there was high

1838
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 1: level corruption at the FBI and the Department of Justice

1839
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:10,600
Speaker 1: that affected the Hillary email probe and the Russia and

1840
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 1: Russia counterintelligence and then collusion investigations with regards to Trump. Well,

1841
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't look good. Um, it's hard to

1842
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:24,480
Speaker 1: look at these draft memos for Comy about exonerating Hillary

1843
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 1: and compare those two statements he made and conclude that, yeah,

1844
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 1: this is all about board and everyone was telling the

1845
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: truth and there was no crookery going on. I mean,

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01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 1: you had Comy tell Congress that he hadn't made up

1847
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 1: his mind until after he had interviewed Hillary and looked

1848
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:40,839
Speaker 1: at all the facts, and yet we have these drafts

1849
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:44,919
Speaker 1: of her exoneration given to him months before, using language

1850
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:48,679
Speaker 1: curiously that Nerrod exactly what Obama said about Hillary being

1851
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 1: careless and not intending to break the law. You have

1852
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 1: Peter Struck and other officials watering down potential language to

1853
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,679
Speaker 1: make it easier on Hillary. You have them talking about

1854
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 1: some sort of an investigation being an insurance policy against Trump.

1855
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 1: The whole thing stinks to high heaven. And quite honestly,

1856
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 1: the longer the FBI and d o J and House

1857
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 1: Democrats try and hide this, the worst the conspiracy theories

1858
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 1: are going to get. So just for the good of

1859
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 1: the Republican, for the good of democratic government, we need

1860
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 1: all the facts out there so we can kind of

1861
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 1: dispense with all the conspiracy theories on the left and

1862
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 1: right and just make judgments based on the actual effect.

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Speaker 1: Oh just one more thing I want to throw in there.

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Speaker 1: You got a piece upon the Federalist Obama's campaign paid

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01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 1: nine d seventy two thou dollars to a law firm

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Speaker 1: it's secretly paid Fusion Gps. And what happened here so

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01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 1: we learned. I think it was late last year that

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01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 1: a law firm was being used as an intermediary by

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01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,640
Speaker 1: d NC and the Hillary campaign to pay Fusion Gps

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01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 1: for the shoddy dossier that they used to launch an

1871
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 1: investigation against Trump. And they didn't actually release that until

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Speaker 1: they nearly had to give up all their bank records

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01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 1: to the House and Hell Committee, and they released its

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01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 1: info under durest to hopefully tilt the scales and the

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01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 1: court case about those bank records. And you look at

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01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: the actual records and you say, wait a minute. The

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01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 1: Obama campaign wasn't active at all, in because Obama wasn't

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01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 1: running yet, they spent almost a million bucks to this

1879
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:21,759
Speaker 1: exact same law firm that was funneling money to Fusion

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Speaker 1: GPS in order to run this Russia conspiracy against Trump.

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01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 1: I would like to know a lot more about what

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01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 1: that nearly million dollars is actually used for, because I

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01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:35,160
Speaker 1: don't understand how a dormant campaign with nobody on the

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01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: ballot needed to spend a million bucks on legal fees.

1885
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 1: Very good question, question I want answer to Sean Davis.

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01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 1: Everybody check out his latest on the Federalist dot com.

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01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 1: Great site, excellent analysis, and uh Sean, we always appreciate

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01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 1: you joining us. Thank you, sir, always a pleasure. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Going to close it out with some roll call teams,

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Speaker 1: so stay right there. Buck is back, everybody, Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for hanging out with me today in the

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Speaker 1: Freedom Hut. Also special thanks to all of you who

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Speaker 1: have been downloading and checking out the Shields High History podcast.

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Speaker 1: what it was really like in those last days at

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Speaker 1: the Theodosian walls, with uh sight thousand turks ready to

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Speaker 1: overrun them, impale the survivors do all kinds of terrible,

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Speaker 1: horrific stuff, and the stakes of the battle being well

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Speaker 1: not just temporal, but for many of those fighting, it's

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Speaker 1: celestial as well. The future of humankind and the great

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Speaker 1: Holy War of the time also brought into that whole

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Speaker 1: uh situation. So you know, there you go check it

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Speaker 1: out Shields High Uh. You can go find it on iTunes.

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Speaker 1: Please do leave a review if you don't mind. That

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Speaker 1: would be a big help on iTunes. If you give

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Speaker 1: us a little review there, people look at that and

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Speaker 1: they say, hmmm, and the more reviews the better everyone.

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Speaker 1: So don't see it and say, oh, he's got a

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Speaker 1: five star review, because a five star review. Think of

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Speaker 1: it like Amazon, five star review from four people is

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Speaker 1: not nearly as as much of an indicator as a

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Speaker 1: four and a half star review from three thousand people. Right,

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Speaker 1: So the more reviews, even if you're just gonna give

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Speaker 1: me a star rating the better, hopefully at least four stars.

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Speaker 1: But you know, hey, you gotta do what your conscience

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Speaker 1: dictates on the reviews. Please do leave some reviews up

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Speaker 1: on iTunes for the shield Hime podcast as we try

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Speaker 1: to continue getting that going. All right, we got some

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Speaker 1: emails here. This is on official Team Buck at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com. We've got this one in bucking Mike. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the job, Mike. You're in good company and

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Speaker 1: the future is bright with this team. Just ordered my

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Speaker 1: Shields High T shirt to cultivate some positive vibes as

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Speaker 1: this early spring season unfolds Shields High brother from Brian. Well, Brian,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. I appreciate that. Very nice of you.

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Speaker 1: Rita writes in with this one Animal Kingdom, this is

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Speaker 1: a show recommendation. Ellen Barkin is the mother and head

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Speaker 1: of her own crime family. Her boys are hunky surfer

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Speaker 1: dudes with gorgeous girlfriends, lots of backstabbing and manipulation. Can't

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Speaker 1: wait for season three, Rita, I've never even heard of

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Speaker 1: animal kating in the show, but I'll have to know.

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Speaker 1: Oh you guys are what do you think? No? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mike all right. Quinn also known as Mike also known

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Speaker 1: as Quinny also known as mikey Uh is saying yes,

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Speaker 1: and Brandon is saying no, you don't know, okay, no opinion,

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Speaker 1: no open. You can plete the fifth on the shows,

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Speaker 1: but never heard of it, okay, so that's fine. But

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Speaker 1: I have never heard of it either, So maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: have to check this one out. But we'll see. Jar Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. This one's from Josh. Hey Buck, I've been

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Speaker 1: listening to you since you were on the Blaze following

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Speaker 1: Glenn's program. I would listen to you on the app

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Speaker 1: since I couldn't find you on the radio and NYC

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Speaker 1: where I drive a truck. I just finished Wednesday's podcast

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Speaker 1: and heard you talk about the Shields High planned expansion.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a g e idea. Um did I

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Speaker 1: read these yesterday? Did these sound familiar that I can't remember? Now?

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Speaker 1: It's okay? Well, anyway, thank you brother for the very

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Speaker 1: kind note about the expansion of Shields High, and I

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Speaker 1: hope I am keeping things lively as you're listening to

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Speaker 1: the show in the truck right now, we'll get into

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Speaker 1: some uh some of the Facebook version of roll Call

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Speaker 1: as we've got a few more minutes here, I get

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Speaker 1: to hear from all of you. Just listen to yesterday's podcast.

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Speaker 1: This one's from Mark. Wow. I didn't expect the message

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Speaker 1: to be read on air, and I'd be happy to

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Speaker 1: send you a bottle of mead once I have more already,

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Speaker 1: I only make small batches in the bottles get scooped

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Speaker 1: up quickly. Is meat like honey liquor? Does that sound right?

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Speaker 1: I think it feels like it's wheat and honey, right.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that what's in mead? I don't even know. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure Mark, the mead maker who wants to make freedom

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Speaker 1: hunt mead, I feel like he can give us all

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Speaker 1: the tutorial. So Mark, next next Facebook message, tell me

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Speaker 1: how one makes mead? And why dost thou makest the

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Speaker 1: tastiest med? I'm sure you do. Uh. We have Robert

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Speaker 1: writing in book a note from the University of North Texas.

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Speaker 1: I thought you might appreciate. Okay, well, this is a photo,

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Speaker 1: so that's no fun. But it's a cute, nice cartoon.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for sending it. And I can't really describe

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Speaker 1: it on air because the cartoon described being described by

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Speaker 1: me is not gonna work. Matthew a question I've not

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Speaker 1: heard asked, Yet, if it is so important for doctor

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Speaker 1: people to become US citizens, why haven't they started the process. Well, Matthew,

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Speaker 1: if you are in fact in the country illegally, and

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Speaker 1: I think if you, I forget what the specific rules are.

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Speaker 1: I know, if you overstay a visa by a full year,

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Speaker 1: I think you are legally barred from the country for

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Speaker 1: for five years. It might be ten years one or

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Speaker 1: the other. But once you're already in the country illegally,

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Speaker 1: there is really no process for you to be in

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Speaker 1: the country legally that does not require you to go

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Speaker 1: home to your country of origin and then start the

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Speaker 1: very long and onerous process. So that's why they haven't started,

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Speaker 1: because they'd have to go home. You can't be in

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Speaker 1: the country illegally and become legal based on the current

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Speaker 1: immigration laws that are in effect. Uh Aries writes in

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Speaker 1: with the following great podcast today, you were hitting it

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Speaker 1: on all cylinders. Um, so there you go, all right,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Aris. I listened to it with someone who's

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Speaker 1: Shawn's fan, who's normally critical of you, that loved your show.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll take it. I just listen to your

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Speaker 1: segment on the curds and you're right on all levels.

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Speaker 1: When Turkey didn't allow the fourth idea to pass through

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Speaker 1: a rock, we should have started re evaluating the nature

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Speaker 1: of our situation with them. Uh well, thank you Aries

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Speaker 1: for the very nice note. I appreciate it. Jesse wrote

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Speaker 1: in with this one Narco season two yea or nay?

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Speaker 1: I love season one. I value your opinion like gold. Well, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: since you value my opinion on TV shows like gold

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Speaker 1: let me first say you have fantastic taste in the

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Speaker 1: opinions of who you should listen to. What it comes

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Speaker 1: to tell you know what I'm saying, listen to me

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Speaker 1: is the right move on TV, says says me. But

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Speaker 1: you should definitely check out Narcos season two and season three.

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Speaker 1: I think you can even make a case at season

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Speaker 1: three maybe the best season of Narcos, which is saying

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Speaker 1: a lot, but it was really really good. Um So

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Speaker 1: here we go, James writes in Oh, he first sent

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Speaker 1: me a link about Syria and then heard you talk

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Speaker 1: about this in the podcast today. Glad you're picking up

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Speaker 1: on the story. Seems the US has moved on, James.

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Speaker 1: I agree, man, A lot of people have moved on

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Speaker 1: from this, and I have not moved on very much.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I want to keep focused on this

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Speaker 1: because I think we owe our friends, the Kurds, who

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Speaker 1: have been doing so much good work and taking a

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Speaker 1: lot of casualties, a lot of heat fighting against the

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Speaker 1: Islamic State. We owe them more than just forgetting about

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Speaker 1: them and letting the Turks. I mean, look, the Turks

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Speaker 1: are bombing a whole area of of Afrian in northern Syria,

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Speaker 1: and they're saying that these are pekk Terrists. Okay, first

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Speaker 1: of all, there's a lot of different ethnic groups and

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Speaker 1: and religious groups that are in this area of northern Syria.

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Speaker 1: So what is it gonna tell me that the the

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Speaker 1: Christians and the uh the CITs in the area they're

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Speaker 1: part of the pe kk two, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're part of the Kurdistan Workers Party

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Speaker 1: right there. They're not even Kurdish necessarily. So that's the Turks.

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Speaker 1: We don't really want to deal with the reality here

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Speaker 1: because they're the Look, it's it's a country that we

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Speaker 1: like to think of as a close ally because of NATO,

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Speaker 1: but Turkish policy and US policy have been diverging for

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Speaker 1: a long time, and someone needs to call them to

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Speaker 1: account for it. All right, that's gonna be it for

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Speaker 1: today on the show here in the Freedom Hut. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for hanging out already thinking about tomorrow's show.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a doozy, so be sure to be here,

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Speaker 1: same time, same place as always, Shields High