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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. I have trust

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Speaker 1: issues with this year's NFL and hear me out as

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Speaker 1: But this year it feels like we're having that same

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Speaker 1: like all across the board, the teams we want to

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Speaker 1: flaws outweigh the greatness that we're seeing every single weekend,

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Speaker 1: we're stuck in a situation where we don't know who's

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Speaker 1: great because maybe nobody is. It's a fellas on Fox

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Speaker 1: And you think about what the NFL should be in

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Speaker 1: my mind by now, when you hit week fourteen, you

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Speaker 1: should be able to make definitive statements. You should be

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Speaker 1: able to look around the landscape of the league and know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've got a good sense today of who's great, and

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Speaker 1: are times that we have that. But we live in

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Speaker 1: a world right now in the NFL where just when

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Speaker 1: we think New England's gonna tank their way out, they

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Speaker 1: turn around. You a Thursday night, when how many people

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out who's actually amazing. Sure, you could

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Speaker 1: But what about that three game losing streak. Do we

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Speaker 1: have any idea to this day what really caused it?

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Speaker 1: You can, yeah, but brock Party people have been trying

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Speaker 1: to do that. And let's hold the same rock party

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Speaker 1: argument that we have to other quarterbacks. Yeah, but we

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Speaker 1: around and say, oh, well, the Cowboys look great right now.

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy looks like he has figured it out. It

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Speaker 1: looks like this offense is clicking. Dak is an MVP candidate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but wait till we see it in the playoffs. There's

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Speaker 1: love chaos. We'll get into college football and why we

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Speaker 1: hear me out? Am I right? Or do you have

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Speaker 3: For everything that you do, every single solitary team has a

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Speaker 3: And maybe I'm in the minority in this, and maybe

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Speaker 3: winning a championship this year as in so, just as

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Speaker 3: an impartial observer and a fan of the sport, I

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Speaker 3: you know it's you just don't know how this league

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Speaker 1: You have, You've injected this in my veins and now

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Speaker 1: That's where we want big brands in the NFL. Man,

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Speaker 3: Maybe you're right, well, And the good thing is, Look,

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Speaker 1: And what's hard for me because I agree with everything

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Speaker 1: And I think the problem for me, not the problem,

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Speaker 1: What the NFL does to human beings all the time,

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Speaker 1: Like the number of times we sit there and say, well,

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Speaker 1: Because if you talk about record setting contract, when you

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Speaker 1: talk about record setting contract, you are not just talking about, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be the best. I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: the face of my team. When you are talking about

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Speaker 1: records set contracts, you were talking about being the face

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Speaker 1: of a sport. That's what Patrick Mahomes is. He's the

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Speaker 1: record setting contract in the NFL. Like you, Alex Oveetchkin

435
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Speaker 1: for years, was, you know, one of the faces of

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Speaker 1: the NHL, Like you have to be a guy or

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Speaker 1: be on that team. That makes all of it worth it.

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Speaker 1: I look at Showy and I say, yes, I understand

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Speaker 1: that this is the greatest baseball player in the world

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna get wildly paid because of it. I'm

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Speaker 1: good with all of that, But is show a gonna

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Speaker 1: turn around and suddenly be in every TV commercial representing baseball?

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Speaker 1: Is it going to be this this phenomenon that leads

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Speaker 1: to ten World Series? Like, I understand the phenomenon of

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Speaker 1: the moment, but long term, Figgie, I got to ask, like,

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Speaker 1: when we're starting to talk about record setting contracts, Okay,

447
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Speaker 1: Like I get it, but is it really worth it? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And look, we've seen this in Major League Baseball before,

449
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Speaker 3: where the quote unquote best player in baseball gets a

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Speaker 3: ginormous deal and it doesn't necessarily equate itself to winning.

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Speaker 3: We want to go back to Alex rodriguezz then groundbreaking

452
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Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty two million dollar contract with the

453
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Speaker 3: Texas Rangers. Well, after about five years, Texas trade him

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Speaker 3: to the Yankees and it took him a couple of

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Speaker 3: years to actually win a World Series there. Mike Trout,

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Speaker 3: with Shoeyotoni's teammate the last few years, consists his best

457
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Speaker 3: player in baseball for about six seven years, but has

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Speaker 3: the I mean basically the temperament and the personality of

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Speaker 3: a gram cracker, like he's just boring a l and

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Speaker 3: it's not easily marketable.

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Speaker 2: Didn't want to be marketable.

462
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Speaker 3: Shoey Altani obviously a dynamic player, but there's a language

463
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Speaker 3: barrier there and that's always going to be difficult when

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Speaker 3: trying to market to an American fan base. Now, the

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Speaker 3: one reason I would say that their record contract would

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Speaker 3: matter is not only because of the individual production on

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Speaker 3: the field that is going to give you, you know,

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Speaker 3: from a hitting standpoint and the pitching standpoint, at this

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Speaker 3: point in time, after a second Tommy John is almost

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Speaker 3: going to be accepted as a bonus. But it's the endorsements.

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Speaker 3: It's the international flavor that you're gonna get all of that.

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Speaker 3: I mean when when they put these free agency pitches

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Speaker 3: out to players like shoe Heel Tani, who are transcendent

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Speaker 3: talents but also global marketing machines, they're saying, this is

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Speaker 3: how much money you're gonna make for us too, and

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Speaker 3: we can make for you on endorsements. I saw a

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Speaker 3: story that the Angels in their in stadium endorsements alone

478
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Speaker 3: last season made fourteen million dollars just off of in

479
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Speaker 3: in stadium, off of Shoeyotani, off of the Japanese advertising market.

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Speaker 3: Now you extrapolate that out to Toronto, where basically the

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Speaker 3: entire country will be encapsulated with Shoeotoni because it's the

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Speaker 3: only Major League Baseball team there. The Dodgers are in

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles, but they're on steroids. Compared to the Angels,

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Speaker 3: which are in Anaheim. Is completely different. So it has

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Speaker 3: to go beyond the production on the field. These franchises

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Speaker 3: are looking at it from a business standpoint. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: pay this guy six hundred million dollars. This guy might

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Speaker 3: actually end up netting US eight hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 3: to a billion dollars when it's all said and done,

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Speaker 3: based off of the endorsements. And that's why it's such

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Speaker 3: a big deal. And while they say it's worth.

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Speaker 1: It, Okay, I'm going to counter why. I don't think

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Speaker 1: any of it's worth it. But first, figure wanted to

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Speaker 1: hit us with some trend to get everybody caught up.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, we'll start with some inglorious losing streaks

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Speaker 3: that were extended in the NBA. On Friday night, Chicago

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Speaker 3: beating San Antonio one twenty one to one twelve sixteen

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Speaker 3: consecutive losses there for San Antonio, despite twenty points and

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Speaker 3: twenty one rebounds from Victor Winmbinyama. Orlando defeated Detroit one

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Speaker 3: twenty three to ninety one, which is the pistons nineteenth

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Speaker 3: loss in a row three game winning streak for the Clippers. However,

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Speaker 3: they beat Utah excuse me, one seventeen to one oh

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Speaker 3: three kings over the Suns, who are without Kevin Durant

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Speaker 3: and Bradley Beal thirty eight points for shake Yodus Alexander,

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Speaker 3: and a one thirty eight to one thirty six thunder

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Speaker 3: victory over Golden State Rockets, handing Denver their third street loss,

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Speaker 3: one fourteen to one oh six to final. There you

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Speaker 3: had victories for the Cavaliers, Celtics, and Minnesota in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence of the Jaguars questionable and likely a game

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Speaker 3: time decision for Sunday's matchup against Cleveland as he continues

511
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Speaker 3: to nurse that ankle injury he suffered on Monday night.

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Speaker 3: Saints quarterback Derek Carr clear concussion protocol, but still questionable

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Speaker 3: for their matchup against Carolina, with rib and shoulder injuries.

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Speaker 3: Seahawks quarterback Gino Smith will be a game time decision

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Speaker 3: for their matchup against San Francisco after he suffered a

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Speaker 3: growing injury in practice on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Back to the fellas, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, so I love your point as we break everything

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Speaker 1: down fellas on Fox Sports Radio about the monetization of

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Speaker 1: Show Hey, Otania. And by the way, he get good

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Speaker 1: on me for using a big word this early in

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Speaker 1: the morning. I feel good about that. I'm Jason Fitz

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Speaker 1: hanging out with Figgy, Shay, Mighty Marca. We are the

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Speaker 1: Fellas on Fox Sports Radio talking a little bit about

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Speaker 1: Show Hey. We'll get back to football in a second.

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Speaker 1: But here's where I think things are interesting, because you

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Speaker 1: make two really good points when it comes to Toronto

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Speaker 1: and particularly being Canada's team. I'll go back to my

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Speaker 1: buddy JP Are and Sibbey. I have known JP for

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Speaker 1: years played for the Blue Jayson. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that JP talked about at the time that was so

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Speaker 1: special and is still special to him, is that he

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Speaker 1: goes up and goes on these Canadian tours all across

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Speaker 1: the whole country, like Toronto is truly a national baseball

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Speaker 1: team for Canada. So I think that's an incredible point,

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Speaker 1: and the money that they could make makes it totally

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Speaker 1: worth it. This isn't a question of if it's worth

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Speaker 1: it for the franchise. The franchise will at their investment back.

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Speaker 1: I think probably on Show Hey, because he is such

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Speaker 1: a phenomenon. This is really to me a question of

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Speaker 1: why are fans so passionate about this because I'm going

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Speaker 1: to continue to oversimplify here, and I know everybody's gonna say, well,

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Speaker 1: it's the Angels, the Angels, the Angels, Fine, but we

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Speaker 1: look back at what we saw at the Angels. We

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Speaker 1: saw individual greatness that never led to a World series,

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Speaker 1: right with not just Show Hey, but also with they

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Speaker 1: have multiple players on that roster that were epic, Right

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Speaker 1: you look at it wasn't that long ago that the

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Speaker 1: Padres were assembled in a way where they were spending

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Speaker 1: money and that was going to mean that they were

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Speaker 1: going to win the World Series. Like we do this

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Speaker 1: all the time, and I just I don't understand why

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Speaker 1: people are so worked up to have Show Hey. Like,

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Speaker 1: I understand you want the best players. I get that

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Speaker 1: we want that, and I love that we want our

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Speaker 1: favorite teams to be big news stories, you know, but

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Speaker 1: at some point you got to look at it and

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Speaker 1: say it, does adding show hey? This is where baseball

559
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Speaker 1: is different than most sports. Does adding show hey immediately

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Speaker 1: make the Blue Jays the World Series favorite? Because you

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Speaker 1: got to look across when you start talking about again,

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Speaker 1: highest contracts, Like I'll argue the NBA's a little bit

563
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Speaker 1: of an that lighter, like Jalen Brown's the highest paid

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Speaker 1: player in the NBA. Right place, right time, right team,

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Speaker 1: the Celtics were sort of trapped in at least the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: He'll look a bit. But that's a question I a

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Speaker 1: contract I questioned too. You know when you talk about

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, you put Patrick Mahomes on any NFL team,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be a super Bowl favorite. You know at

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Speaker 1: the time with the Vetchkin, you put a Vetkin on

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Speaker 1: any NHL team, They're gonna be a Stanley Cup favorite.

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Speaker 1: Like it just works that way. You put show Hay

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Speaker 1: on any team in Major League Baseball, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a wild, interesting, fun year where there will be

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Speaker 1: highlights to watch throughout the course of the summer. But

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Speaker 1: it don't mean a damn thing when it comes to

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Speaker 1: actually lifting the trophy at the end of the year.

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Speaker 3: Figgie, Yeah, no, you're right, And that's I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it's a problem. It's just the natural reality of

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Speaker 3: Major League baseball like what it is. It's an individual

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Speaker 3: game wrapped up within the team sport. It's pitcher versus hitter.

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Speaker 3: And I don't care how great of a hitter show

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Speaker 3: al Tany is. He can go five or five and

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Speaker 3: the team can still lose ten to eight. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's just the natural fact that you can't run away from.

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Speaker 3: Look the last few World Series champions and talking about

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Speaker 3: these giant inflated contracts. You know, Corey Seeger obviously got

588
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Speaker 3: to signed a big deal with the Texas Rangers, but

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Speaker 3: he missed what thirty five percent of this past season

590
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Speaker 3: two injury issues. They just happened to get hot at

591
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Speaker 3: the right time. That Bryce Harper signed a big deal

592
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Speaker 3: with the Philadelphia Phillies a couple of years ago and

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Speaker 3: has been a clutch performer in the postseason for them.

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Speaker 3: But generally speaking, I'd say over the course of recent history,

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Speaker 3: at the very least, the highest paid baseball player, the

596
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Speaker 3: consensus best baseball player on the planet, has not necessarily

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Speaker 3: played for the best team or even played for a

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Speaker 3: team that's contended for a championship. Now, they could be

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Speaker 3: many reasons for that, but look to your point, and

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Speaker 3: I do think it's a legitimate issue. If you're talking,

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Speaker 3: there's not a salary cap in baseball, but there's a

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Speaker 3: very punitive luxury tax, and if you're signing a guy

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Speaker 3: who's taking up, you know, thirty eight percent of your

604
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Speaker 3: luxury tax of your salary cap, situation is going to

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Speaker 3: be difficult to feel the team that can actually be

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Speaker 3: compete for a World Series championship. So, like, I certainly

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Speaker 3: understand it, but I also wonder, look a team, if

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Speaker 3: you're a team like the Dodgers, would I use as

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Speaker 3: an example when I cover them on a day to

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Speaker 3: day basis, so I have more knowledge on the inner

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Speaker 3: workings of that organization more than any They are confident

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Speaker 3: in their farm system, their draft and development, their ability

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Speaker 3: to find and cultivate guys and be able to get

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Speaker 3: reclamation projects. We can sign a couple of stars and

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Speaker 3: then have the base of our roster be filled out

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Speaker 3: with a bunch of minimum salary or low salary guys

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Speaker 3: that can basically that we can win with and just

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Speaker 3: fortify the roster with big name players like Otani and

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Speaker 3: be able to win. So that's kind of the thought

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Speaker 3: on their philosophy. Now, Toronto has some good young guys

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Speaker 3: if they cultivated you know, your lad juniors and Bigio's

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Speaker 3: of the world. But they've also gone down and spend

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Speaker 3: on guys like George Springer in the past. So this

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Speaker 3: will be a big splash for them as well. Would

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Speaker 3: it make them a World Series contender? No, because they

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Speaker 3: still have issues on their pitching staff. But so your

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Speaker 3: argument is very valid. Make signing a big splash free

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Speaker 3: agent like Shoey Ootani is not going to cure all

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Speaker 3: the ills for the for a Major League Baseball franchise,

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Speaker 3: like signing a Lebron James or a Patrick Mahomes would

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Speaker 3: in the NFL or the NBA.

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Speaker 2: You are right on that.

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Speaker 1: I will continue to say till I am blue in

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Speaker 1: the face that at its core, free agency in almost

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00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: every sport is a little like gastric bypass. There are

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Speaker 1: some people that absolutely need it and it can change

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Speaker 1: their life, and it can be incredible for somebody that

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Speaker 1: gets it simply as a luxury because they don't want

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Speaker 1: to put in the work to lose the weight. And

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Speaker 1: I have several of friends they've gone through this four

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Speaker 1: or five years later, they're right back where they started,

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Speaker 1: right Because if you are looking at it as a

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to go out and do this and

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Speaker 1: it's going to be my fix, but you don't start

645
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Speaker 1: fixing everything else, you haven't really fixed anything. So my

646
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Speaker 1: fear for all of this, and I don't care whether

647
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Speaker 1: we're talking about NFL free agency major League Baseball free agency.

648
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Speaker 1: When I see wild numbers go out for somebody. The

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Speaker 1: first thing I ask when I see those epic huge

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Speaker 1: numbers is A, is that going to make you a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl or a World Series contender right now? Because

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Speaker 1: if the answer is no, then it's not worth it.

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Speaker 1: And b are you still going to be capable of

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Speaker 1: or are you already doing the things that you can

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Speaker 1: continue to do to be a long term successful franchise.

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Speaker 1: And if the answer to that is no, then it's

657
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Speaker 1: also not worth it. You can bring in Aaron Rodgers

658
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Speaker 1: all day, but you are at some point you are

659
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Speaker 1: rolling the dice that that quick fix is going to

660
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Speaker 1: get you the Super Bowl that you need right now.

661
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Speaker 1: And if it doesn't, and your franchise is doomed for

662
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Speaker 1: the future. It wasn't worth it. Same with show. Hey,

663
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Speaker 1: as much as we want to obsess over what this

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Speaker 1: player is and what he means to Major League Baseball,

665
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Speaker 1: I would like to obsess over the result instead of

666
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Speaker 1: simply obsessed over adding another name. We'll keep breaking down

667
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Speaker 1: the show Hey news though, I mean, I'm not stupid here.

668
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Speaker 1: If anything breaks, you'll hear about it right away. We'll

669
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Speaker 1: cut into everything. We'll get to the best life coverage

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Speaker 1: in the entire world as we break it all down.

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Speaker 1: But coming up next on Fox Sports Saturday Live from

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Speaker 1: the tire Act Sudents dot com studios. Sorry, got a

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Speaker 1: little confused there. Millions of dollars are on the line

674
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Speaker 1: millions of dollars tonight in one NBA game. We'll tell

675
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Speaker 1: you about it and why it's an amazing thing for

676
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Speaker 1: the league. Next on The Fellas on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm not even gonna pretend that I'm mad about

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Speaker 1: ay the Christmas music or b the well pulled Vamperry

683
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Speaker 1: Christmas music. I remember being in the studio playing that

684
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Speaker 1: fun fact. Also remember, like a lot of people don't

685
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Speaker 1: realize it, but the vanm Perry was on the Justin

686
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Speaker 1: Bieber Christmas record out there too, so cool Christmas experiences.

687
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Speaker 1: It is never too early for Christmas music. By the way,

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Speaker 1: you can just miss me with that argument. It's just,

689
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Speaker 1: you know, bring the joy, bring the Christmas joy, bring

690
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Speaker 1: all of the joy, and bring it to you. It's

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Speaker 1: the Fellas and you're sitting here saying, why the hell

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Speaker 1: are we talking about Christmas music? Relax a right, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back in where the Fellas live from the ti raq

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Speaker 1: dot com studios. I'm Jason Fitz hanging out with Shae,

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Speaker 1: hanging out with Figgy, hanging out with Mighty Mark. We

696
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: haven't heard from Mighty Mark today, Mighty Mark. How we

697
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Speaker 1: feel in everything good? Like we're gonna get to the

698
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Speaker 1: nd season tournament in a second. But got to check

699
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Speaker 1: in on my boy because I feel like right now

700
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Speaker 1: we're all sitting at the sports bar. You've got like

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Speaker 1: a little stool that's over on the side. Nobody's talked

702
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Speaker 1: to you yet. I'm worried about y so I'm rolling

703
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Speaker 1: the shot down to you, and I'm making sure my

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Speaker 1: boy's good.

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Speaker 6: I'm always good at observation. I just kind of watch,

706
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Speaker 6: see what's going on, make sure nobody spills their napkin,

707
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Speaker 6: just listen to the conversation, you know. I just jump

708
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Speaker 6: in when it's absolutely not needed.

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Speaker 1: You know what I love about this, Like this feels

710
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Speaker 1: I just jump in.

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Speaker 6: I just wait and wait till absolutely not needed that

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Speaker 6: I say something I'm imagining.

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Speaker 1: We're all sitting at like, you know, like we're on

714
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Speaker 1: the corner of the bar because like I'm not a savage.

715
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Speaker 1: You always sit on the corner when you got a group,

716
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Speaker 1: so you still have a chance a group conversation. Mighty

717
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Speaker 1: Mark says nothing. And then at the end of the night,

718
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Speaker 1: when we're about to leave, he just leans over to somebody.

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Speaker 1: It leans over to Shaye and he's like, hey, Shay,

720
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Speaker 1: she's been checking the out and he's figured it out

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Speaker 1: and Shay had no idea like that. That's where my

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Speaker 1: Mighty Mark is like just out observing everything, sitting a

723
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Speaker 1: little hunched over in the chair, just slowly like we

724
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Speaker 1: sent him the shot, but he's not taking the shot.

725
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Speaker 1: He's slowly sipping on it. That's Shay. That feels like

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Speaker 1: the vibe.

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Speaker 6: Here, observation, looking around, Look see who's looking at who?

728
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Speaker 6: It's like, see see who's looking at Shaye. You know,

729
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Speaker 6: just you know, just checking people, lot, just keeping it calm.

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Speaker 2: Number one wing man, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Come on, there's there's no now. Figgy seems like he's

732
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Speaker 1: the one that's going up to everybody for like, you know, Figgy,

733
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Speaker 1: if in this imaginary situation we were all single in

734
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Speaker 1: a bar, like Figgy is the one that's walking up

735
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Speaker 1: and saying, hey, what's that Like. Figgy's got that personality right,

736
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Speaker 1: Like I just I feel like that's that's that's his personal.

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Speaker 2: He's real personal. Yeah, especially give me a pop or two.

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Speaker 3: Even if I don't like I mean, if especially if

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Speaker 3: if Shay is like, hey, you know what, uh, this

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Speaker 3: one over here is like little like you know what,

741
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go warm it up for you. Let me go,

742
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Speaker 3: let me go see what's going on. You know what

743
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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: The idea like Figure walking up and be like, hello,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, I'll be your opening act.

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Speaker 4: I'm just here to By the way, I'm twenty three

747
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Speaker 4: years old. And the girls that i'd be probably going

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Speaker 4: after probably twenty three. It's I got mighty Mark and

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Speaker 4: k Fig helping me out. I think that'd be hilarious.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, right, you know, hurt, hurt, shay, Okay, Shave.

751
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Speaker 1: Reminding is by the way, also that he's a child,

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Speaker 1: That's right. Look, so we have several different perspectives here,

753
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: and I think that's important because there's something going on

754
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Speaker 1: right now in the NBA that I want perspective on.

755
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: It's the nd Season Tournament. And trust me, if you're confused,

756
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: that's okay, everybody's confused, you know. Have The other spot

757
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Speaker 1: that I create content for is Yahoo Sports, and we've

758
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Speaker 1: had so many meetings about the nd Season Tournament that

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Speaker 1: I actually had to do like an explainer at the

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Speaker 1: end of the elimination round. We had to sit there

761
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Speaker 1: and explain all of the tie breaking scenarios as everybody

762
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Speaker 1: got there. And a lot of people don't realize tonight's

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Speaker 1: game is actually truly significant. The winner of the nd

764
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Speaker 1: Season Tournament walks with five hundred thousand dollars per person

765
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Speaker 1: and per coach, So every single person on the sideline

766
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Speaker 1: of a game tonight will get half a million dollars.

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Speaker 1: The question is has this raised some level of interest,

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Speaker 1: because I'm a little torn on this. I feel like

769
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Speaker 1: when I talk to my NBA head friends and we

770
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Speaker 1: all sit there and talk about the league right now,

771
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Speaker 1: it is interesting how few have a real understanding of

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Speaker 1: even what this is, why it's going on, Why is

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Speaker 1: it in Vegas? Like I'm sitting here looking around and saying,

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Speaker 1: whatever their intent was was was to create some sort

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Speaker 1: of great basketball moment, they created conversation, Figgie, I just

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Speaker 1: don't know that if they created like this great basketball

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Speaker 1: moment we're flocking to, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: Well?

779
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Speaker 3: I think what they were trying to create is any

780
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Speaker 3: modicum of interest in NBA regular season basketball before Christmas,

781
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Speaker 3: and that's not really is a very difficult task considering

782
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Speaker 3: what it was competing against with college football and the

783
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Speaker 3: NFL obviously, So I do think from that standpoint, they've

784
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Speaker 3: succeeded the fact that we're even talking about the NBA

785
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Speaker 3: at this point in time. I saw stat earlier this

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Speaker 3: week that the ratings for the ESPN primetime game on

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Speaker 3: Tuesday Night, I believe it was the ratings were higher

788
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Speaker 3: by eighty nine percent compared to last year. Because it

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Speaker 3: was a tournament game, there was ant because there was

790
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Speaker 3: added interest for it. Now, whether that was not whether

791
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Speaker 3: that was just people who were just intrigued by I

792
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: don't know what this is. There's a novelty to it.

793
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: Let me check it out. Fans of those individual teams

794
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Speaker 3: or if they were legitimately into it. The NBA's goal

795
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Speaker 3: was simply to have some level of interest, some level

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Speaker 3: of increased interest in early season basketball then there typically

797
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Speaker 3: would be, and I would say from that standpoint it

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Speaker 3: has succeeded.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting too, because it's not by accident that ABC

800
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Speaker 1: will be playing the final tonight. Pacers Lakers tonight eight

801
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Speaker 1: thirty pm Eastern. I think part of the reason that

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Speaker 1: plays into tonight is because for the last however many months,

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Speaker 1: eight pm on a Saturday night has been about some

804
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: level of football, right, So they're just putting a sport

805
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: right there, making sure you watch it, and you know,

806
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Speaker 1: whether you're a conspiracy theorist and you believe that it's

807
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Speaker 1: by accident, or whether it just happens to be really

808
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Speaker 1: good luck. Having a brand like the Lakers in it

809
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: is not a bad thing to do. Having somebody like Halliburton,

810
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Speaker 1: who's played so well this year for the Pacers in

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Speaker 1: it is not a bad thing either, So it's an

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00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: intriguing you know, Pacers Lakers. You're right, Pacers Lakers on

813
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: a Saturday night before December would not usually matter to anybody,

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Speaker 1: So I get that. I just think that at some point,

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Speaker 1: when you do special events, it needs to either captivate

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Speaker 1: your diehards in a way that they can't get enough

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Speaker 1: of it, or it needs to bring in the casuals.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that this really did either at a

819
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: huge rate. I don't know the answer. I don't know

820
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Speaker 1: a solution to it. I just I look at it

821
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Speaker 1: and say, I don't know if it is in part

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Speaker 1: because it's in Vegas. I don't know, because that feels

823
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Speaker 1: a little stale, like the Lakers advancing might help that,

824
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Speaker 1: but like, I don't know, Shay, I look at it

825
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: and say, this has been okay. I don't know that

826
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Speaker 1: I have a better solution. I won't say that it's

827
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Speaker 1: necessarily an epic fail, but it's only felt okay to me.

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Speaker 1: Where are you on the committee?

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Speaker 4: I think it's a success, a big time success. I mean,

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Speaker 4: viewership is up twenty three per I'm pretty sure it's

831
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Speaker 4: twenty three percent, twenty three percent in the NBA, and

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00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 4: then as well as just the attendance in November, like

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Speaker 4: for the actual games is at an all time high.

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Speaker 2: It's a record that's never been broken before.

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Speaker 4: So it's just I think they're more thinking about how

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Speaker 4: we can get people to keep viewing, how we can

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Speaker 4: get more people to come in the month of November

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Speaker 4: in the month of December, which they've done it, they

839
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Speaker 4: have one hundred percent of it, and people are trying

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Speaker 4: to compare it to the NFL, like, oh, the NFL

841
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 4: is bringing in sixteen mil, or like college basketball is

842
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 4: bringing in a million, and only like this big draw

843
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 4: is bringing in a million more. But we can't look

844
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Speaker 4: at that. We can just look at the progress they're making.

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Speaker 4: And in regards to the progress, it's a huge success.

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00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 4: Like if you're going up more than twenty five percent

847
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 4: in viewership, I'm very happy with that. Adam Silver is

848
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Speaker 4: very happy with that, and the people bringing in the

849
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Speaker 4: bills are very happy with that.

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Speaker 2: So in that regard, I think it's it's a great thing.

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00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 4: But again, yes, there is that kind of staleness to it,

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00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 4: Like honestly, the only thing I don't like about the

853
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: nd season tournament are those those hardwood floors.

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Speaker 2: Not a fan of that at all.

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Speaker 1: But other than it does at least identify that, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're watching it in season tournament. I like, you're right,

857
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Speaker 1: I think the floor designs have been trash, but it

858
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: does at least when you're flipping through, you're like, oh, it's.

859
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: You know, it's something new.

860
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a one hundred percent it's a breath or

861
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 4: fresh air almost, but it's it's like a breath of

862
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 4: fresh air when you're at like a trash compactor, you

863
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It's like, yeah, you're breathing, but

864
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 4: like still like it's not the greatest thing in the world.

865
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: But no, I mean, I'm a Laker fan.

866
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: So if I just get to see the Lakers and

867
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 4: Lebron my goat du Warner, like why not? Like I'm happy,

868
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: I get to go to the bars and my friends

869
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 4: have a good time and it's almost like a playoff atmosphere.

870
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 4: So I love it as a fan too, And then

871
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 4: seeing Tyree's do it and what he's doing it, it's

872
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 4: just great. And I again in an early MVP candidate

873
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 4: one hundred percent, especially if he wins, like, I don't

874
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 4: know how they'll take it away from him, and I

875
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 4: don't know what other people can do to kind of like, oh,

876
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 4: like he won the he won the ring basically not

877
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 4: by himself, but well, big fan.

878
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: Of it and I know we got a run here.

879
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: But also just looking at you speaking Tyre's Holliburd that

880
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 3: game against Boston, if you had a chance to watch

881
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: that quarter final the other night, I mean Indiana, that

882
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 3: might as well have been Game seven of the NBA

883
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: Finals because the crowd was into it, the players were

884
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: into it, and I think that's the sort of result

885
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: that the NBA was looking for, where that for for

886
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 3: local fans some modicum of national fans to be into

887
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: it more than you would be for a late November

888
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: early December game. So from that standpoint, I agree with

889
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: Shaye that it's a success.

890
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, because realistically, if it wasn't for the tournament,

891
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: would we even be talking about the NBA world also

892
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: talking about legendary coaches in the NFL that may be

893
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: looking for new teams. Will break it down next on

894
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: the Fellas. Not all coaching conversations are created equal, and

895
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: when we start talking about the NFL, how unpredictable it

896
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: is this year, and how good or bad some of

897
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: these teams are. There are legendary coaches that are suddenly

898
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 1: on the hot seat. And while I understand that conversation

899
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: around somebody like Bill Belichick with the way that the

900
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: Patriots season has gone, While I will give you that

901
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: part of the conversation, there's another legendary coach that suddenly

902
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: is being written about as being on the hot seat.

903
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: And it's absolutely absurd. If there is any chance that

904
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers would possibly move on from Mike Tomlin,

905
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: it would be one of the dumbest things we've seen

906
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: in years in all of sports. As the fellas on

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913
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: The way tire buying should be, there's a way coaching

914
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: carousels should run. And I think sometimes you look at

915
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: legendary names, and you look at expectations and ask our

916
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: expectations being met, Then you have to ask where those

917
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: expectations come from. I found myself stunned this week reading

918
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: an article in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette about how national

919
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: media has lost perspective by not understanding that Mike Tomlin

920
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: should be on the hot seat in Pittsburgh. Now, part

921
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: of the concept here was it's this narrative that Steelers

922
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: fans should be appreciative and they've been spoiled, and that's

923
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: not really watching what Tomlin has done. It's absolutely wrong

924
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: because Steelers fans had been spoiled because continuity at the

925
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: coaching spot is difficult to find because when you go

926
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: through the bad, you understand what the good looks like.

927
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: That's just real. I've been saying it for a couple

928
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: of weeks now, but let's be honest, getting the right

929
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: coach is maybe the luckiest thing you have to accomplish

930
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: in all the sports. Did the Texans get it right

931
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: when they got to Miko? Yeah, they also got lucky.

932
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: The same organization that was sitting here with no head

933
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: coach with a concept a year ago. Today, the concept

934
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: was nobody wanted the Texas job, particularly no minority candidate

935
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: would want it, but Demiko did. Now he's got ties

936
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: to the organizations. There's a million reasons why it happened.

937
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: There's a million reasons why it's working. But the bigger

938
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: point is it took luck. I always say better to

939
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: be lucky than good, and that's okay, But you got

940
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: to understand Mike McDaniel is a good head coach for

941
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Maybe great, but also we got to look

942
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: at Mike McDaniel and say, boy, they got it wrong

943
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: a few times before that, didn't they. It wasn't that

944
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: long ago we were convinced Robert Salah was going to

945
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: be the next great coach. Wasn't that long ago that

946
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: Brian Dabole was going to be the next great coach.

947
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott suddenly on the hot seat for a lot

948
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: of reasons other than just football. You start to look

949
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: at the coaching carousel and you have to appreciate the

950
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: fact that, man, it is hard to find the right one.

951
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: So now, how do you judge them? How do you

952
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: judge a coach other than just by win loss. That's

953
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: a tough question. But the one thing, you know, The

954
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: one thing we have learned, the one thing we can

955
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: be absolutely certain of, is if you want to win

956
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: in the modern NFL, you have to have a coach,

957
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: quarterback combo you can trust, you can bank on. You

958
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: gotta have your Andy Reid and your Patrick Mahomes. Right,

959
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: you look across board, that's what you gotta have. The

960
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: Bills now, they they're gonna believe in Josh Allen. They

961
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: may not believe in Sean McDermott because it's the two

962
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: of those together. It's the tag teams, the eighties tag team.

963
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: All Right, you gotta have Macho Man and you gotta

964
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: have Hulkochin. They gotta be together. If you start looking across,

965
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: you can say, hey, pretty easy to see what the

966
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: Steelers don't have Kauf, Kenny Pickett, don't have Kauf Mitchell Trubisky,

967
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: and I have a quarterback. First time I ever met

968
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: herm Edwards years ago. I was backstage at the Grand

969
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: Old Opry down in Nashville, Tennessee. He was speaking to

970
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: a convention and at the time, the band I was

971
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: in was playing for that convention, right, so we were

972
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: sitting backstage. I'd never met him before, and I'm sitting

973
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: there talking to him about my beloved Raiders, and I said,

974
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: what fixes my beloved Raiders? And Herm didn't know him

975
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: at all at the time. Herm looked over and laughed,

976
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: and he said, gotta have a quarterback. Man, tell you, you

977
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: can be a great coach, but you're not a great

978
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: coach until you have a quarterback. The Steelers don't have

979
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So what's the difference between the Steelers and

980
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Patriots absolutely suck. That's the difference. The Steelers

981
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: have been competitive. The Steelers don't have a quarterback, but

982
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: they've still put the rest of the roster in place.

983
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: You gotta ask yourself if there was a big split

984
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: right now, if there's a big split in Pittsburgh and

985
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: they turned around and they fired Mike Tomlin, you don't

986
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: think that every single team with the job opening wouldn't

987
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: flock to his door. That's an indication, because I don't

988
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: think everybody's flocking a Bill's door anymore. You got to

989
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 1: ask some serious questions about Belichick. The power he would want,

990
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: the roster construction he would force. You got to ask

991
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: all these questions. They're fair questions to ask about Bill.

992
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: But when you start talking about Tomlin, let's be real.

993
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: How many people have left Pittsburgh. Players have left Pittsburgh

994
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: to go out to be just abject disasters in the NFL,

995
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: whether it's as personalities or whether it's as players. And

996
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: then we say, man, how did Tomlin keep that in check?

997
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: You start talking about what the Steelers have done with

998
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. Man, I'm sorry, Pittsburgh fans, if you don't

999
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: want Mike Tomlin, what you're really asking for is a

1000
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: revolving door. A revolving door that could get you the

1001
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: next Brian Flores. It could get you that, like you

1002
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: pick your terrible coaches again as a Raiders fan, My god,

1003
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: you want Josh McDaniel. You want to do a flip

1004
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: right now? Go go ahead, perfect take Josh McDaniel's you

1005
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: doing that? No, Every single year, fan bases are convinced

1006
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: that the fix is there and it's a legendary coach. Right,

1007
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: they're going to hire their next legendary coach. I'll tell

1008
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: you right now, Steelers fans, you get rid of Tomlin,

1009
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: he comes over coaches the Raiders, I'll throw a damn parade.

1010
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,479
Speaker 1: I'll throw a Tomlin parade for him walking in the door,

1011
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: because that's the sort of coach every other team would want.

1012
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: So maybe it's time you appreciate so fellas I'm Fox

1013
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Figure. You get in here man like that.

1014
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: Tell me I'm wrong. You can tell me I'm wrong.

1015
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that Tomlin's greatness is in the ability

1016
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: to just right the ship no matter what happens, to

1017
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: be consistent. The standard is the standards. He always says,

1018
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: to find a way to win, and he's doing it

1019
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: with terrible quarterback situations. By the way, we're talking about

1020
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: the Steelers like they're a disaster. They're still in playoff contention,

1021
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: even though their quarterback position is a joke. To me,

1022
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: Tomlin would be coveted.

1023
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 3: Someone would pounce on him immediately. I can't disagree with

1024
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: you for all the reasons that you laid out, And

1025
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: you know the issue that you run into when there's

1026
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 3: a coach who's been around as long as he has

1027
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: and has in won at say the rate of say

1028
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: someone like Bill Belichick. He only has what only has

1029
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: what made it to a couple of Super Bowls, one

1030
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 3: of them I believe he a one to one or

1031
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: early in his tenure there in Pittsburgh. But to your point,

1032
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: the fact that the roster turnover, which by the way,

1033
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: I don't believe he has a heavy hand in personnel decisions.

1034
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 2: He never really has.

1035
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: He does pick his own coaching staff, and I think

1036
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 3: over the course of how long has he been there,

1037
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: sixteen years or whatever it's been, I think you can have

1038
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: a Mulligan that coordinated with someone like Matt Canada, that

1039
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: those sort of things can happen. To your point, not

1040
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 3: having a stable quarterback situation since Big Band was gone,

1041
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 3: not having the best offensive line, which again I don't

1042
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: think is necessarily his fault, getting the most that he

1043
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 3: possibly can out of that defense on a year and

1044
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 3: year out basis, even when they've had injury issues. Ryan

1045
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 3: Shazier having to retire early on, he was one of

1046
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 3: the best defensive players in the entire league. This guy's

1047
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: been through a lot of stuff and still has you

1048
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: staying afloat every single solid tier year and hasn't had

1049
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 3: a losing season. You know, anytime situations like this pop

1050
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 3: up fits, I always go back to It's an old example,

1051
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: but I think it rings true. I think of Frank

1052
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: Solich at Nebraska, and people towards the end of his

1053
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 3: tenure are saying, I'm tired of winning nine, you know,

1054
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 3: eight or nine games and not competing on a national

1055
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 3: level anymore. We got to get this guy out of

1056
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: here and modernize. So they fire Frank Soligs, they bring

1057
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 3: in Bill Callahan, and Nebraska outside of a little blip

1058
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: on the radar with bo Polini has been searching for

1059
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: that ever since. And meanwhile, you know, if Sprank Solich

1060
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 3: went to Ohio and won a couple of conference championships

1061
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: and had really good success at a lower level, albeit

1062
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: but still prove that he can still coach, be careful

1063
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 3: what you wish for Pittsburgh's Deealler fans. To your point,

1064
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 3: the grass is not always greener with the hot, sexy

1065
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 3: new name, because for every bright young offensive line like

1066
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Speaker 3: a Sean McVay you know, or a Mike McDaniel like

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Speaker 3: you bring up you mentioned, there's a bunch of other duds.

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Speaker 3: And the chances are you're going to find a dud

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Speaker 3: before you actually hit a home run.

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Speaker 1: I agree with everything you just said, and it's funny

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Speaker 1: I'm looking back at this was one of a few

1072
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: articles it was written about this, and it talks about

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00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: the fact that Tomlin has only won playoff games some

1074
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: four of his previous sixteen seasons with the team, as

1075
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: he goes as he's in his seventeenth season now as

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Speaker 1: part of this and it's the maddening thing to me,

1077
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: And this is my fault. This is your fault, this

1078
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: is our fault on the way we cover things. We

1079
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: just want to look at it and say, what's the

1080
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Speaker 1: playoff record? Well, is there not a story behind that?

1081
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Speaker 1: Like is there not context allowed to that? Like the

1082
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: conversation of what's his record in the playoff Okay, well

1083
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: we'd have to go back and look and see who

1084
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: he lost to, when he lost to him, and how

1085
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Speaker 1: he lost him. Like, there's so many situations that go

1086
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: around this arbitrary measure. And I've heard people this week say, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, if Mike McCarthy doesn't win a playoff game

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00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, he's gonna get fired. And it's like

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Speaker 1: based on what, like what is that playoff game? How

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00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: does that playoff game go down? Sure, if he loses

1091
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: seventy to nothing to a bad team in the playoffs,

1092
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: he might get himself fired. If he goes into playoff

1093
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: double overtime and loses on a sixty three yard field

1094
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Speaker 1: goal to San Francisco. I don't necessarily think that's a

1095
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: fireable offense. Like everybody wants to just put this this

1096
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: blanket statement around playoff success or failure, a like getting

1097
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: to the playoffs is no big deal, like b like

1098
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: You're just supposed to win through the playoffs no matter

1099
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: what happens, especially when you've grown up as Tomlin did

1100
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: in an era that included Belichick and Brady, Like this

1101
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: is just such an arbitrary measure to me. It's the Fellaws,

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Speaker 1: Sha Mighty Mark. We are the Fellas and Shay, I

1108
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Speaker 1: look at all this, like, look, if you're telling me

1109
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Speaker 1: right now, I can have any coach, any coach right

1110
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: to come in and take over again for my beloved

1111
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: raiders who have seen whatever. The number is twenty coaches

1112
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: in the last twelve years. Think about this, if I could,

1113
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: if I could turn around and nail Mike Tomlin is

1114
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: a higher for my favorite team, How would I not

1115
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: want this? Right? Like, Shay, you're a Browns fan, You

1116
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: faced Mike Tomlin. You cannot tell me that he isn't epic.

1117
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a lot of hate for the guy.

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Speaker 4: No, he's a great coach, honestly, but I'm gonna be

1119
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: the devil's advocate. I mean, I definitely agree with you guys,

1120
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Speaker 4: but I'm gonna be the devil's advocate here. Mike Tomlin

1121
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 4: took over for a pretty elite coach who just stepped away.

1122
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Speaker 4: So when he took over, he already had Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 4: He had an elite team. So seventeen years in the league,

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Speaker 4: I think for like fourteen years of those he had

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Speaker 4: Big Ben and he had a QB. So this is

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Speaker 4: kind of like the first couple of years where we're

1127
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 4: seeing him get some adversity, and I don't know, it

1128
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Speaker 4: seems as if almost yeah, like it's like, I'm not

1129
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Speaker 4: going to compare him to Belichick because Belichick drafted Tom

1130
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 4: Brady and like he was able to kind of create

1131
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 4: that team. But it kind of is like a Belichick situation.

1132
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 4: Tom Brady leaves, Big Ben leaves, and he's kind of

1133
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 4: sitting there not the same. So you're definitely right, you

1134
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 4: need the QB and you need the coach, But I

1135
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 4: think you need the QB more than you need the coach, honestly,

1136
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 4: especially in this scenario where again he basically inherited a

1137
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 4: team that won a Super Bowl I think two years

1138
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 4: before that, and it was, I mean, out of luck.

1139
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 4: You've just gotten in a very good position. And I again,

1140
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 4: like I'm not gonna say it's all luck. Like he's

1141
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 4: a great coach and he knew what he was doing.

1142
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 4: He won a couple of Super Bowls, and like he

1143
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 4: knew what he was doing with Big Ben. But then again,

1144
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 4: he had Big Ben, he had all these outlets, he

1145
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 4: had all these all these assets that he can use

1146
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 4: and it's great for him. But at the same time,

1147
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 4: he did it for so long that yeah, he's great.

1148
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 4: He has to be great, and he is one of

1149
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Speaker 4: the best, and anyone would be dumb to not take him.

1150
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 4: But again, just playing the devil's advocate, he did inherit

1151
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 4: one of the greater I mean one of the best

1152
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 4: Steeler teams I think ever, I mean not ever, but you.

1153
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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, and I don't disagree with some of that.

1154
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: But they're also seven and six right now and would

1155
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: make the playoffs today with the terrible quarterback situation. And

1156
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: this is the other challenge that they've had, and in fairness,

1157
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: is a challenge also faced by the Patriots at times.

1158
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: It's not like they've ever been picking high enough to

1159
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: get that replacement quarterback. I think the concept of replacing

1160
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: a legended quarterback is already daunting, And so what happens

1161
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: is you're right, I do think that you know, we've

1162
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: learned a little bit more about who was responsible for

1163
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: the success Brady Belichick not responsible, but you know there

1164
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: is a level of we saw Brady go somewhere else

1165
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: and win. We haven't seen Belichick been able to be

1166
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: able to replicate that. I think, for me, the bad

1167
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: of the Steelers, like we always talk about again draft prospects, figure,

1168
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: we talk about the ceiling and the floor, right, like

1169
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: the floor on a Tomlin, And you know, so often

1170
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: it's like, well, it's about the playoffs, about the playoffs.

1171
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just about getting the dance. You got a chance,

1172
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Speaker 1: and Tom to put you in that chance. You always

1173
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Speaker 1: feel like you got a chance with him on your sideline.

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Speaker 3: You do, I will say, and to play even more

1175
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 3: of a devil's advocate. If you look at some of

1176
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 3: the playoff losses, it's they're tough to swallow. You go

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Speaker 3: back to that Divisional playoff game against Jacksonville forty five

1178
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Speaker 3: to forty two, Blake Bortles. Now, granted that was the

1179
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 3: same Jacksonville team that had a lead against New England

1180
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: in the AFC Championship game that they ended up blowing,

1181
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 3: but that's a tough one to swallow. Baker Mayfield beat

1182
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 3: you in the postseason with the Cleveland Browns forty eight

1183
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 3: to thirty seven. You know, so in the Denver Broncos

1184
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: less we forget the Tim Tebow prayer pass to the

1185
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 3: to Damarius Thomas, like you know, that was a tough

1186
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: one to swallow. So there have been some tough playoff

1187
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 3: losses in his tenure where I can certainly understand if

1188
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 3: you're a proud frand like the Pittsburgh Steelers, where at

1189
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 3: a certain point you do tell yourself just being in

1190
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 3: the hunt and making it to the playoffs isn't enough,

1191
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: we got to start making some head away. We got

1192
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 3: to get to the AFC Championship Game a couple of times.

1193
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: We got to make it to more than two Super

1194
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Speaker 3: Bowls in an eighteen year period, though most franchises would

1195
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 3: kill for that. You know what I'm saying, So to

1196
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Speaker 3: a certain degree, I understand what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't disagree with you.

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Speaker 3: Fits if you were me, I would still hold on

1199
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Speaker 3: to them and just try to fortify the roster and

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Speaker 3: the organization around him better. But I do understand the

1201
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: frustration from the fans standpoint, saying we're knocking on the door.

1202
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 3: We make the playoffs every year, and it's the same story.

1203
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: We're the nineties Atlanta Braves.

1204
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Speaker 1: You're right, and I understand the logic on it. I

1205
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 1: just go back to again, this is just and you

1206
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: you you can appreciate this as much as anybody. When

1207
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: when did Tomlin? Tomlin got his job in Do we

1208
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: remember what year? Off? The top of our.

1209
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 3: First season was O seven seven?

1210
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Speaker 1: Okay, so since O seven I've seen in seven. It

1211
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: was Lane Kiffin, followed by Tom Cable, followed by Huge As,

1212
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: followed by Dennis Allen, followed by Tony's Perano for a

1213
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: little bit, followed by Jack del Rio, followed by John Gruden,

1214
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: followed by Rich Bisaccio, followed by Josh McDaniels, followed by

1215
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce. That's just in the amount of time that

1216
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, who is currently fifty one years old, by

1217
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: the way, still still has fifteen twenty years. If you

1218
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 1: want standing on a sideline, there's no doubt I've seen

1219
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: that many coaches and that because of the year was

1220
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, you give me one more year,

1221
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: and I add Art Shell at two and fourteen. Right,

1222
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: So when you start to think about that level of

1223
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: revolving door, this is why I'm risk averse. Like for me,

1224
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,479
Speaker 1: if I got a coach in there that I feel

1225
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: like more often than not going at least keep me

1226
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: in proximity. That's what I think we pay for now.

1227
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: I don't think you pay for greatness when you're talking

1228
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: about coaches. I think you pay for proximity. Can this

1229
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: person put me in the same penthouse as greatness? And

1230
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: if they can, then I got a chance. That's that's

1231
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: where my mind goes with it, Like I just want

1232
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: to have a chance.

1233
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Speaker 3: I certainly agree with that, I completely, and I know

1234
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: it's a different era, but like how many years the

1235
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: Tom Landry have the cowboy job before they actually turns

1236
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 3: it around, Like twelve, they were like a terrible franchise.

1237
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 3: Nobody has that sort of patience these days, and they

1238
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 3: were bad. The Steelers are actually a franchise that competes

1239
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 3: on a year and year out basis. And look, like

1240
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 3: I said, I understand the frustration if you're a fan

1241
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: of the Pittsburgh Steelers, but like we mentioned to open

1242
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: the segment, the grass is not greener on the other side.

1243
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: You know, you look, you might hit on a.

1244
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 3: Great young coordinator who can turn things around, but you

1245
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 3: might also get yourself a dud. And I one argument

1246
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: that people will have too for someone especially like Tomlin

1247
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 3: who's been in this role for as long as he has,

1248
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 3: is that maybe his message starts to wear thin. And

1249
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 3: that's why you have the questions of effort of guys

1250
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: like Pickings who are not blocking on run plays and

1251
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 3: things like that.

1252
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: Maybe you're reading too much into it.

1253
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I know that's

1254
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: something that gets brought up fairly often when a team

1255
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: the production starts to quote unquote slip and again, they'd

1256
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 3: be in the playoffs today if everything you know ended

1257
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 3: right now. But if they're not competing out to high

1258
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 3: enough championship level, people say like, well, maybe the best

1259
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 3: is just starting to wear within, and there might be

1260
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 3: something to that. I'm not sure. I can't speak to it.

1261
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Speaker 3: Only the players in the building can speak to that.

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Speaker 1: dot Com. I mentioned Mike McCarthy in this whole conversation,

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Speaker 1: and there is one glaring reason that everybody is wrong

1268
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Speaker 1: about what they're saying when it comes to Mike McCarthy's future.

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Speaker 1: In a minute, we'll get to a bold statement about

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00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: college football today. But I have to, as we were

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00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: talking about coaches, make a point about Mike McCarthy because

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00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: we're talking about legendary coaches and where they're going to go.

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00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: I understand that Mike McCarthy is not in that category.

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00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: But what I don't understand is the way we talk

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00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: about Jerry Jones, Like everybody seems convinced Mike McCarthy's gone

1285
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys don't have playoff success? What is that

1286
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: based on? If you look over the last several years,

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00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: Mike mccarthy'spent the coach since twenty twenty. Obviously Jason Garrett,

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00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: who annually was oh no, he's gonna get fired, Well,

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00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: he was there from two twenty ten to twenty nineteen.

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00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good amount of time. Wade Phillips got

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00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: a couple of years before, three years, three seasons before him.

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Speaker 1: Like if you want to say that Jerry Jones is

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00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: a quick trigger owner. When it comes to getting rid

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00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: of coaches, you have to go back to the late nineties.

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00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I don't really want to be judged

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00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: today by the way I acted in anything I did

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00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: in my life in the late nineties. I get that

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00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: we want to make the Cowboys a discussion all the time,

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01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: but every time we've had these hot takes on the Cowboys,

1300
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: we've been wrong. Zeke's not gonna get paid. Guy I did. Oh,

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01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: they don't love Dak. That's why the deal's not done. No,

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01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: that was never why the deal wasn't done. They they

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01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: wanted Dak for five years. He only wanted to sign four.

1304
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: Like we forget that. The reason there was a delay

1305
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: in Dak's contract is because the Cowboys loved him so

1306
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: much they wanted more years so they could spread that

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01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: cap hit out. Jerry got it done. We sat here

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01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: and we yelled and screamed about it. But Jerry got

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01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: it done. And now we sit here and yell and scream.

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01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: Oh McCarthy, Oh, he's on the hot seat. Based on

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Speaker 1: what Jerry's saying that he thinks they can compete with

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Speaker 1: the best in the NFC. What else do you think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna say, Jerry thinking that the Cowboys could be

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl team. Yes, all of these scenes can

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01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: be true at once. Jerry Jones can feel like the

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01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys are in a window to win a championship. He

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01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: can feel like they have all the necessary pieces, and

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01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: he can also be smart enough with football like any

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01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: of us, that he sits back, watches the game in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs play out and says, man, it just wasn't

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01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: our year. People don't like that answer, but it's just real.

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01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes you lose a football game, and the worst thing

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01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: you can do when that happens is overreact to the

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Speaker 1: emotion of the moment. I understand we've spent years talking

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01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: about Jerry Jones overreacting. I just think maybe we should

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Speaker 1: give the Cowboys credit for who they are today instead

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Speaker 1: of judging the owner and the franchise based on who

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01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: they were twenty years ago. Today, coming off with Jason Garrett,

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01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: particularly hard to argue that Jerry Jones hasn't been patient

1330
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: as an NFL owner. It's fellas on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: Figgi hit us with some trending. My friend, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, well we'll start with the NBA from Friday night.

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Speaker 3: We'll start with the Clippers picking up their third straight victory,

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01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard scoring forty one points as LA defeated Utah

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Speaker 3: one seventeen to one oh three. Luka Dancik with thirty

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Speaker 3: two points and tennis is for Dallas, and a one

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01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 3: twenty five to one twelve went over Portland, who's lost

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Speaker 3: three straight. Houston defeated the Nuggets in Denver, one fourteen

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Speaker 3: to one OHO six twenty five points there for Jalen

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Speaker 3: Green three straight losses there for the defending champs. It

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01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 3: was a thunder one thirty eight and the Warriors one

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Speaker 3: thirty six in overtime. Minnesota a league best seventeen and

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Speaker 3: four record after their one twenty seven to one oh

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Speaker 3: three victory over Memphis. You also had wins for the

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Speaker 3: next seventy six Ers and the Orlando Magic, who handed

1346
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Speaker 3: the Detroit Pistons their nineteenth consecutive loss. In NFL news,

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs will be without running back Isaiah Pacheco against

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Speaker 3: Buffalo on Sunday as he nurses a shoulder injury. The

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01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 3: Vikings will get receiver Justin Jefferson back for the first

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Speaker 3: time in seven games. Against Las Vegas after he injured

1351
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 3: his hamstring. Saints quarterback Derek Carr questionable for their matchup

1352
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 3: against Carolina this weekend with rib and shoulder injuries. He

1353
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 3: did clear concussion protocol on Friday. Back to the Fellas, so.

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Speaker 1: Fellas coming up on a Fox Sports Saturday Live from

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Speaker 1: the Tyrak dot com studios. But as we continue to

1356
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: break everything down, I gotta be honest. Figure, you love

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01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: college football. I love college football. We can agree on that,

1358
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: my friend. Right, everyone's good. We all love percent yes, okay,

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01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: shave Shae, You're going to be part of our love

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01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: brigade for college football. Like we're all in. I have

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01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: to make sure it's clear here. We all love it, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course I want to miss it for

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01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, now now, and we're all we're all good

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01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: people at our core, right, Like we're good dudes. We

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Speaker 1: we love hanging out. Everybody's like we're good people. Right.

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01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm about to say something that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: aren't gonna like. And you know, I just want to

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Speaker 1: qualify that I am. I say this with a warm,

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Speaker 1: full hearts, so you know I'm not grencish. I just

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Speaker 1: want I just before we have this open moment. I

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Speaker 1: just want to make sure we're all good. We're all

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01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: in a safe space. Everybody's comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Coffee, no doubt, never felt more safe in my life.

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Speaker 1: Now that I've said that, I'm just gonna be honest, y'all.

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Speaker 1: We don't really care about the Army Navy game. Everybody

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01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: says about the Army Navy game. Like everybody comes in

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01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, it's Army Navy. It's the weekend

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Speaker 1: dedicated to Army Navy. Okay, Like, let's look at the numbers.

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Speaker 1: You know me, I love my analytics with this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Last year, seven million people watch the Army Navy game.

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Speaker 2: That's good, pretty solid.

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Speaker 1: It's the only game on today, Like there's nothing else

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Speaker 1: like this is It's not like seven million, but the

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Speaker 1: game was going on, and the Iron Bowl was going on,

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Speaker 1: and this game was going like now like no, there's

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Speaker 1: one dollars football game today. See this is what Army

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Speaker 1: Navy is. Army Navy is PBS. Now. Years ago, they

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Speaker 1: used to do ratings for by a survey, so they

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Speaker 1: would mail out Nielsen, the company that tracks ratings, would

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Speaker 1: they would mail a survey to homes all across America

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Speaker 1: and they would have you check mark what you listened to.

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Speaker 1: And the interesting thing is, back then, this is many

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Speaker 1: years ago. Back then PBS, you know smart radio, smart TV,

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01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: because you did the same thing for your TV. Smart

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01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: smart radio, Smart TV had pretty good ratings. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people listened to it, a lot of people like

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Speaker 1: that smart talk. Right then, all of a sudden, they

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Speaker 1: came up with this new system where they could track

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Speaker 1: it digitally, so people were started wearing these monitors right

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01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: when they did that. One of the most alarming things

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Speaker 1: that happened is the ratings plummeted for PBS, for for NPR,

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01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: I should say for NPR and radio ratings plummeted. Why

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01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: did ratings plummet. The ratings didn't plumb it because suddenly

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01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: people stopped listening. The ratings plummeted because people weren't listening

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01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: in the first place, and because everybody wanted to feel smart,

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Speaker 1: so they said they were listening to NPR, when really

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Speaker 1: they weren't. They were listening to like Top forty. People

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01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: were not listening at that time. They were listening to

1410
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: hair metal. They were not listening to smart conversation about

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01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: Russian politics, like that's not what people were listening to.

1412
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: But everybody wanted to feel like a smart kid. And

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01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what Army Navy is. Everybody talks

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01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: about Army Navy and they talk about their great But

1415
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: like Army and Navy both play football games every Saturday,

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Speaker 1: we don't get the highlights from it. ESPN ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: show any of it to you. Air Force also, like

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01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: these football teams play every weekend, and then we turn

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Speaker 1: it into what the pageantry of this game is the

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01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: reason that everybody fought seven million People like, that's good,

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01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: it's nothing to shake a stick at, But it's not

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01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: the phenomenon people want it to be. If people really

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Speaker 1: loved Army Navy, the numbers would be through the roof.

1424
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: If people really loved Army Navy, then they would pay

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Speaker 1: attention to the football teams throughout the course of the year.

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Speaker 1: And if your answer is this is disrespectful to the

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Speaker 1: men and women that have fought so hard, I would

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Speaker 1: say number one, it's football relaxed. Number two, and this

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Speaker 1: is an important part of it. If you're really supporting

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01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: the men and women that have given so much to

1431
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Speaker 1: our country by supporting this football game, shouldn't you be

1432
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Speaker 1: supporting it all year round? Shouldn't the conversation be less

1433
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: about this one game and more about what it takes

1434
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: to be a football player for any of our Armed

1435
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: Services teams throughout the course of the year, how much

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Speaker 1: extra burden that is for all of them. Those are

1437
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Speaker 1: great conversations to have. But today, what we're gonna do

1438
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Speaker 1: is going to talk about Army Navy, and we're gonna

1439
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: talk about the fancy jerseys, and we're gonna talk about

1440
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: how cool it looks, and for the portion of a

1441
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: couple of hours, everybody's gonna feel really good about how

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Speaker 1: they supported Army Navy by talking about it, by checking

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Speaker 1: the score, and maybe by putting an eyeball on it.

1444
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: But realistically, if it mattered the way people say it matters, man,

1445
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Speaker 1: it wouldn't matter today. It would matter every single Saturday.

1446
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: But it doesn't when there's a great college football matchup.

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01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: It only matters when we clear everything out and we

1448
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: force people to pretend that they care at a level

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01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: that I too, my cores do not believe they do. Figgie,

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Speaker 1: have I made you uncomfortable? I just want to make

1451
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: sure we're stilling this. I feel like I'm at the

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01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm waxing at the bar, and everybody has slowly walked

1453
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,919
Speaker 1: away from me. They're all like this guy over here,

1454
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: he's on his own wheel.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't come with this. Who care for say?

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Speaker 2: Is this show doing over here?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I know you it's It may be uncomfortable, but it

1459
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 3: is true. And I think I had this conversation with

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Speaker 3: Anthony last year when this game came up, and look

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Speaker 3: the I think another issue with this too is it's

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01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 3: just not an aesthetically pleasing style of football either. Last

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01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 3: year's game went in to double overtime and like neither.

1464
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 3: I mean it was two yards in a cloud of

1465
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 3: dust the entire game. I think it was tied to

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Speaker 3: ten or something. It's just not pretty. Neither team. If

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01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 3: you have been keeping up a little bit, you know

1468
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 3: what's how they've played this year. And the only reason

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01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 3: I have is because I'm a college football weirdo and

1470
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 3: a nerd. Neither of them have been very impressive. Both

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01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 3: offenses have really struggled. Army tried to play a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a different sort of hybrid offense that's still

1473
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 3: run heavy, but not necessarily a triple option, and it

1474
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 3: wasn't really working out well for them this year. It's

1475
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Speaker 3: just not anesthetically pleasing form of football. Both teams are

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01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 3: five and six. By the way, even if either of

1477
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 3: them win, the Bulls are already locked in, so you're

1478
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 3: not playing for Bowl eligibility, so that doesn't necessarily matter either.

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Speaker 2: So look for all the players. You're right. The pageantry.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 3: I had some friends last year, a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 3: I should say, they watched the opening ceremonies like, oh,

1483
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 3: this is cool, and the band and the president's there,

1484
01:08:58,720 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 3: and then as soon as they kicked it off, the

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01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 3: turns it off, and when did something else.

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01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 2: It's the spectacle.

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01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 3: Around the game, the vibe around the game, honoring the

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01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 3: men and women. All these players who are on the

1489
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 3: field are going to go ahead and do some things

1490
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 3: that are so much more important than playing the sport

1491
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 3: of football than we appreciate them for that. But the

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01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 3: game in and of itself, unless someone like Keenan Reynolds

1493
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 3: is playing in it like he was a few years

1494
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: ago when he was a spectacular player and a Heisman

1495
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 3: finalist and all that. Or a team has eleven wins,

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01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 3: which I think one of those teams with him on

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 3: it did it's really a dud of a game more

1498
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 3: often than not.

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Speaker 2: If we're to be completely honest.

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Speaker 1: I will say loudly, as I've said for years in

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01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: every show that have been a part of, I get

1502
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 1: to talk about sports every day because men and women smarter, better,

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01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: braver all around, just better human beings than I will

1504
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: ever be fought for my freedom. I will die on

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01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 1: that hill all day every day. I have in my

1506
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: life devoted everything I can to help things like wounded Warrior.

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01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: I believe that there are incredible important conversations to have

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01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 1: about the people who currently serve, who will serve in

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01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: the future and in the past. I think honoring that

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01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: is incredibly important. I just think understanding that what we're

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01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: honoring today isn't as real as people want it to

1512
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: be is an important part of what we can all

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01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,839
Speaker 1: do better when it comes to honoring RV, Army, Navy,

1514
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: Air Force, all of these teams all the time, and

1515
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 1: my push to the world would be today when you

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01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: see those opening ceremonies, it's cool watch it, but ask yourself, hey,

1517
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: am I really is this? Does this resonate with me

1518
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: week in and week out? Because Army Navy is a

1519
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: great game, it's a great moment, it's great pageantry. But

1520
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: it's that sort of thing that everybody says they're super into.

1521
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: When the proof is in the pudding, when you actually

1522
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: look at the numbers, and when you actually look at

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01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: what people are going to pay attention to. I think

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1529
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Speaker 1: of the NFL? It's usually answered by now, we don't know,

1530
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: but we're about to figure out how to rank them

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Speaker 1: and rate them. Next On The Fellas on Fox Sports Radios.

1532
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: Fellas on Fox Sports Radio Live from the tire Rack

1533
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: dot Com Studios. God, I'm feeling all the Christmas fields.

1534
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie sitting here in my Grinch hoodie.

1535
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: God ready for all of it. So Fellas, I'm Jason

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01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: Fitzfiggy Shay Mighty Mark Wrawl hanging out with you. And

1537
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: here's the question I said. I started the whole show

1538
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: today saying I have trust issues, you know, because this

1539
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 1: year the NFL, it's hard to figure out who's great.

1540
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: That also plays all the way in to the conversation

1541
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: about players at some level and a real visceral conversation

1542
01:11:55,439 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: about the MVP. Because if the MVP is slee a

1543
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: quarterback award, fine, then let's just give it to a quarterback.

1544
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: If an MVP is the best player in the league.

1545
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: I think if there's ever been a year that maybe

1546
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: that conversation veers out of just a quarterback, this might

1547
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 1: be it. So I thought we could do something a

1548
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: little different rather than just sit here and yell about

1549
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: the MVP. Fellas, We're gonna unite and we are going

1550
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: to do something that the sports world's very familiar with.

1551
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: We are now going to create the first ever Fellas committee.

1552
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: We're a playoff committee. We're a voting committee. We all

1553
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: have a vote, and it is our job to decide

1554
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: arbitrarily based on the metrics that we have, but that

1555
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: we can decide to use when we want, how we want,

1556
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: where we want. Some familiar to anybody, we are going

1557
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: to decide who the top four should be in the MVP. Figgie,

1558
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: are you ready.

1559
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 2: For this exercise, I'm ready to roll.

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01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: Okay. So as we all know, Shae you have a

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01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: vote in this too, and Mighty Mark also, Shay, are

1562
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: you ready to fight for any Let Shae take the

1563
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: floor first here as producer extraordinary? Is there somebody you

1564
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: are fighting for? As you're number one in the MVP race?

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01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: Tyreek hil okay, So straight out of the gate, you

1566
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: are going Tyreek Hill. You are not going quarterback? Is

1567
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 1: there any argument though? For without how do we do

1568
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 1: it this way? Figure out present it to you? If

1569
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: we take Tyreek Hill away from Tua, Tua is still

1570
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: gonna have big numbers. If we take Tua away from

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01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, is Tyreek still going to have a big numbers?

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01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: So is that an argument for you?

1573
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: It can be will to have.

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01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 3: Look, Tua can still definitely have success within that offense

1575
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 3: as a rhythm and timing offense with Mike McDaniel. But

1576
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill is such a game changer and so dangerous.

1577
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 3: I think I might agree with Shay. I think even

1578
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 3: if he has a half step down of a quarterback,

1579
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,839
Speaker 3: he changes the field so much. Look, maybe his individual

1580
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,560
Speaker 3: production isn't as good, but I still think whatever a

1581
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 3: team he is on is still an explosive offense. Because

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01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 3: of that, he's a game changer. So I think I

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01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 3: still have Tyreek Hill as my number one.

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01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: You also have Tyree Kill as your number one? Okay,

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01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just gonna at least present the case

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01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: for a quarterback on a very good team, because in

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01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: my mind, part of the m VP conversation is take

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01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: them away and who are they? If you take Lamar

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01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: away from the Ravens, the Ravens are just not good. Like,

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01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: they're not good at all? Right, Like, several teams have

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01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: lost their quarterback this year. It is that that's true

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01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: for many teams. But Lamar playing very well for the Ravens.

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01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: They are a high seed in the playoffs at this point.

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Speaker 1: Is there any love for Lamar in this conversation?

1595
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 2: Yes, he is number two for me.

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01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Mighty Mark, are you in for Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 1: at number one and Lamar a number two? You are

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Speaker 1: also a voting member?

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Speaker 6: Good sir, I'll take what you guys are talking about.

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Speaker 6: I'll go with those two.

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01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,839
Speaker 1: That's out of what like. So now we've learned quickly

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01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: that as long as we distract Mighty Mark with like

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01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: I don't know snacks mark is there when we come

1604
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: into the committee meeting? Is there a preferred snack we

1605
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: need to bring you? Is to keep you engaged? Like,

1606
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: how do I bribe you to join my side on

1607
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: all voting matters.

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01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 6: Let's try coke and popcorn?

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we should have been a little more.

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01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: Dis diet coke over coke zero? Are you a coke zero?

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01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: Die cokey?

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01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 6: I'll try to die coke for now.

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01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, that's it's a personal taste thing that I'm

1614
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:13,520
Speaker 1: not sure I really appreciate. It's coziero is far better. Okay, story, Okay,

1615
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 1: I am excited for that story. But maybe we'll do that.

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01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: All right, So what Tyreek won Lamar to Shay? Are

1617
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: you in on that? Are?

1618
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if I agree with Lamar? At two?

1619
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: Okay?

1620
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,759
Speaker 2: Lamar is in my top four. We're doing top four, right.

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01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean we got to get through a

1622
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: top four together.

1623
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lamar is in my top four. I don't know

1624
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 4: if you'd be two. But we're not doing like a

1625
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 4: particular order here. But so he's in the committee, he's

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Speaker 4: in the fund.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, no, I mean, okay, at this point. If

1628
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: Tyreek is number one and we'll agree on Tarrek is

1629
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: number one, would you like to propose someone as number

1630
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: two as part of this committee.

1631
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, convince us that someone else should be too. We're

1632
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:50,799
Speaker 3: ranking these as if we're the committee.

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01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 4: I think that brock Pert I mean, with the way

1634
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 4: you guys have said it though, like, yes, you take

1635
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 4: Lamar away from the Ravens, the Ravens an't gonna win,

1636
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 4: and if you take party away from the forty nine ers,

1637
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 4: I'm sure they'll be able to win the games that

1638
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 4: they have. But I think what we've seen and what

1639
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 4: we've seen this entire year, Like I wasn't a broad

1640
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 4: pretty believer at all, but I honestly believe that he

1641
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 4: could be maybe my number two. But at the same time,

1642
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 4: when you that whole takeaway Lamar from the Ravens, that

1643
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 4: kinda is making me lean at two now a little

1644
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 4: bit more, just because I feel like if you took

1645
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 4: Brock Party away from the Niners, you could put someone

1646
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 4: else in that system.

1647
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 1: Sha Shae, Shae Shae.

1648
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 2: I'm making a convincing argument here.

1649
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: Show committee number Committee rule number one. Committee rule number

1650
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 1: one is whatever you say say with your chest like

1651
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 1: this is one of those things like if we're gonna

1652
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: be in an argument with your significant other, at least

1653
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: come in from the minute you're arguing, like certain that

1654
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 1: you are right, because if you if there's any if

1655
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 1: there's any wiggle room here, I mean right now, Figgie right.

1656
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: I feel like if this were reality TV show, Figgie

1657
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: and I are looking at each other, We're like side on,

1658
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: We're like, we got this committee. We're just gonna I

1659
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 1: mean you and you and Mighty Mark are not giving

1660
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: us a figgy, like tell me if I'm wrong here.

1661
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: But I just I feel like there wasn't a lot

1662
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: of conviction from Shade. I'm trying to convince us a brock.

1663
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 4: There definitely wasn't a lot of conviction, But I just

1664
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 4: needed some convincing, you know. I just wanted to put

1665
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 4: it out there because this is a committee, you know,

1666
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 4: and I'm looking at you guys as team members, Oh my, and.

1667
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 2: I want some help here.

1668
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, we needed some convincing too, and

1669
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 3: I think it failed kind of short there for you,

1670
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 3: Shay to.

1671
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 4: Be honest, and you know what, that's fine, that's fine,

1672
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 4: And in this point I agree Lamar Jackson we're putting

1673
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson at too. And you guys have convinced me,

1674
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 4: cause just talking it through, I kind of convinced myself.

1675
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: Remind me never to to like, I don't know, you

1676
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: guys have watched the the whatever game show version of

1677
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 1: Squid Games that's out there.

1678
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,799
Speaker 3: Oh, I love it. I've not seen it horrible.

1679
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, I just feel like, you know, Shay,

1680
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: you'd be you'd be much more like that where you're like, hey,

1681
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 1: let's all work together. I'm a little more cutthroat's all right.

1682
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: So we got Tyreek Kill, we got Lamar number to

1683
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: figure who you got is three.

1684
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 2: I'm going with Jalen Hurts.

1685
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 3: Despite his injury, I still think he's the injurine that

1686
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 3: makes that Eagles offense go on. He's made many big

1687
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 3: plays down the stretch when necessary to help them win games.

1688
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 3: It's as flimsy of a ten and two as you

1689
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 3: can get. I guess not as flimsy as Minnesota was

1690
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 3: last year, but you get my point. So I'm putting

1691
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts as my number three on the MVP list.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I went Christian McCaffrey at number three. Just

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01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: when you think about what he means to that offense.

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01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: And we have seen Rock Party struggle a few times.

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01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: We'd never see Christian McCaffrey struggle, right, Like, I think,

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01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: for me, Christian McCaffrey absolutely can't be stopped. And we

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01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 1: take that for granted some ways, and actually know what,

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01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm changing my vote. I'm changing my vote right now.

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01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,839
Speaker 1: I'm saying, why not go defensive player? Why not Miles Garrett?

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01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: Why not Miles Garret bey in the MVP? Like, okay,

1701
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: is there anybody more dominant in the game right now

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01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball to Miles.

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01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 4: Garrett, love it, agree with it, doubling down on it?

1704
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? That's my number?

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01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 2: Four? Got mister brown over here?

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01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: All right?

1707
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,520
Speaker 2: I don't know about that I'm talking about.

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01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm getting Miles Garrett up to number three? Can I

1709
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: talk anybody into Miles Garrett? Three?

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01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 2: Three is wild? Three is?

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01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: I mean?

1712
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a Browns fan? At three is?

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01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 4: I mean?

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01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 2: Three is up there? You might get me at four.

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01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 2: Three is tough though, four eight okay, yeah, because I

1717
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 2: have like four is like a lot of people, to

1718
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 2: be honest, but.

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01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 3: As dominant of a defensive player as he is, and

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01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 3: like he might be good for what two additional wins

1721
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 3: which could be good enough to get you into the postseason.

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01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 3: The quarterback can means so much. And I look at

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01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 3: a team like Philadelphia that's been on the edge so

1724
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 3: much all season long, and Jalen Hurts, even being banged up,

1725
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 3: playing as well as he's played, especially when it's matter

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01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 3: at most, like who's the replacement level guy you're putting

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01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:42,879
Speaker 3: in his place and getting that same production?

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01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 2: You're just not getting it.

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01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 3: I think of Jalen Hurts is not the starting quarterback

1730
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 3: and you just put X replacement level quarterback in his spot,

1731
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 3: It's not happening.

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01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: In an unpredictable year, we rely more than ever on

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01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: being able to trust a quarterback when it comes to

1734
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: what teams we can trust. We rely more than ever

1735
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: on a quarterback when we're trying to evaluate coaches. We

1736
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: rely more than ever on quarterbacks when it comes to

1737
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: just feeling like our favorite team has hope. And right now,

1738
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: if you look at the odds makers, they're relying more

1739
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 1: than ever on quarterbacks to win the MVP. The top

1740
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: six the six best odds right now to win the

1741
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: MVP all belong to quarterbacks. Either of the top ten

1742
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: all belong to quarterbacks. The question is should it in

1743
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: a year where the NFL looks different than ever, and

1744
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: in a year where frankly, the NFL seems less predictable

1745
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 1: and there are more star players making impacts in different

1746
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 1: ways every single Sunday, Maybe this is the year where

1747
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: we should force ourselves to open the perspective out of

1748
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 1: this quarterback when it comes to the conversation of who

1749
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: the most important, the most valuable player is, because you

1750
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: could argue any given Sunday in a year where we

1751
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 1: see backup quarterbacks trying to thrive, in a year where

1752
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: we see guys we've never heard of stepping up behind

1753
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: center and still putting up some decent numbers, in a

1754
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: year where we see somebody like Josh Dobbs go off

1755
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: in that sort of a year, Maybe this is that

1756
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: moment where the door has been cracked open that we

1757
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: can walk through to start to credit other players at

1758
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: other positions that are doing generational things this season that

1759
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 1: impact the game every single week. It's a Fellows on

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Speaker 1: The MVP vote should be simple. You should be able

1768
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: to walk in and at this point, fourteen weeks into

1769
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 1: the season, look at it and say, you know what,

1770
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 1: clearly there is someone dominating the league. Now, when I

1771
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: say it that way, clearly there is someone dominating the league.

1772
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: There is when I say clearly there is someone doing

1773
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: historic things this season. There is when I say, clearly

1774
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: someone is doing something this season that the Hall of

1775
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 1: Fame is going to remember it's happening. Will you factor

1776
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 1: all of that at oh, and clearly that level of

1777
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: dominance is leading to wins? Yep, all of those things

1778
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: are happening. All of those same criteria are being met

1779
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 1: right now, but they're not being met by a quarterback.

1780
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 1: So what do you do when you are watching a dynamic,

1781
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 1: unstoppable performance, when you are looking at the actions of

1782
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill every single week. And you gotta admit it.

1783
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: When you see the schedule, when you play the schedule

1784
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,839
Speaker 1: game and your your favorite team's taking on the Dolphins,

1785
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: what's the first thing that comes to your mind. God,

1786
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be able to stop Tyrek. When you

1787
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: look at the numbers. When you look at the numbers,

1788
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: it's historic. It's about five hundred yards away from being

1789
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: a two thousand yard receiver and he's doing it on

1790
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: the number one seed in the AFC. Oho The Dolphins

1791
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: haven't beaten anybody you have. They have. They may not

1792
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: have beaten anybody very good, but they've beaten a lot

1793
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: of teams right now. The AFC runs through Miami, and yes,

1794
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: two is a big part of that falls in his

1795
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: hand every snap. That's fine, I acknowledge that. I acknowledge

1796
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: it too as a part of this conversation. But when

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01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 1: I say Dolphins, you say Tyreek. And when you start

1798
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 1: putting history and context behind the numbers we're seeing it

1799
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: is clear right now who the MVP of the NFL is.

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01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: It is absolutely abundantly clear. His name is Tyreek Hill.

1801
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: He won't win the award, But when he doesn't win

1802
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: the award. Maybe we should hold MVP voters in the

1803
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: NFL to the same level of scrutiny that we're currently

1804
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 1: holding the college Football Playoff committee and ask a real question,

1805
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 1: is this simply a Quarterback of the Year award or

1806
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: is it an MVP? Because history will remember. Current football

1807
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 1: teams know it. Everybody knows what's coming and they can't

1808
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: stop it. And if that isn't the definition of an MVP,

1809
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: the hell is the Fellas, Let's bring Figgy, Shane Mighty Mark.

1810
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: We're doing a committee. We're figuring out the MVP award,

1811
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: and we came to Tyreek Hill as our number one

1812
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 1: on this. We're doing a committee just like house fotball

1813
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: player committe. We're gonna orbitrarily vote on things. FIGI the

1814
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 1: more I think about it, Tyreek Kill at number one,

1815
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: I am fired up about. I think it makes sense.

1816
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: I think we've settled on Lamar as number two. But

1817
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: I will ask you a question as we continue down

1818
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 1: this list. Does Dak as I just said quarterbacks, would

1819
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: you put DAK or CD on this link?

1820
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 3: Oh well, if it's between the two of them, I

1821
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 3: will put Dak on the list over CD Lamb for sure.

1822
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 3: But to be honest with you, I don't know if

1823
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 3: Dak is. I do know for a fact, Dak is

1824
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 3: not in my top four. I'll tell you that WHOA not.

1825
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,919
Speaker 1: Even in your top four? Okay, Dak. Now, because currently

1826
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 1: the best odds, it's a tie between Brock Perty and

1827
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. You know, they're both plus three hundred right

1828
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: now to win the MVP. So so you're just out

1829
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 1: on Dak altogether as an MVP caliber season.

1830
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 3: Well for putting him in a top four for this

1831
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 3: to this current exercise, then yes, if it was a

1832
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 3: top five, I'm probably will put him in.

1833
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, Okay, Okay, And I'm with

1834
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: you that I think part of the reason that you know,

1835
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: I understand that there are multiple weapons for the Dolphins

1836
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: that have worked incredibly well. I want to give CD

1837
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: his flowers. While CD has been great, I don't think

1838
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 1: CD has been at a Tyreek level. I don't think

1839
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 1: that's a hot take, right, And I think there has

1840
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: been this ascension really of Dak throughout the course of

1841
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: the last month. Particularly, I've given Mike McCarthy a lot

1842
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: of credit on this show. I think the Cowboys are

1843
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: an interesting case study here because if I'm looking at

1844
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: Tyreek and I'm looking at Lamar, to me, Dak and

1845
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and Lamar are sort of all in the

1846
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: same conversation. They're incredible quarterbacks on incredible teams this year.

1847
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: The question is just how do they separate from each other.

1848
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 3: I think that's a fair question to a certain degree.

1849
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 3: I think the run element for Jalen Hurts, which has

1850
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 3: not been as strong by the way this season, and

1851
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 3: the fact that he's improved as a passer, I think

1852
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 3: kind of puts him over the top. Granted, he has

1853
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 3: phenomenal weapons. He has, you know, one of the best

1854
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 3: receiver combinations in the entire NFL, and he has one

1855
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 3: of the best offensive lines in the entire NFL. But

1856
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 3: because of the unique new uniqueness of their offense and

1857
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 3: just anybody can't go in there and be plug and

1858
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 3: play and run it and run it as efficiently as

1859
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 3: he does, even despite the fact that he's battling through

1860
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 3: some injuries. That that's why I give the leg up

1861
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 3: to Jalen Hurts.

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01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 1: I think that the Jalen Hurts angle is the running angle,

1863
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 1: is a huge part of it. He's such a different

1864
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: part of their offense, right Like, there is value to that.

1865
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: As much as we've over over talked about brotherly shove

1866
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: or the tush push or whatever we want to call it,

1867
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 1: it is important to acknowledge that Philly is doing something

1868
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts is doing something that a lot of

1869
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks simply can't execute. Like I would not trust same

1870
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,759
Speaker 1: offensive line, same weapons, same formation, you put brock Party

1871
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: behind that offensive line, I don't think he's going to

1872
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: get that same first down on that brotherly shove, right like,

1873
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: I think there is some credit to what Jalen Hurts

1874
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: does and in the most indefensible play in the NFL,

1875
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: right now, that's just such a different angle and level

1876
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 1: to who he is and what he does, and there's

1877
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: a small to the way he does. The more we talk,

1878
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: the more I'm buying Hurts is my number three. I

1879
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: think you figure you have. You have smoothly laid out

1880
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 1: a case for Jalen Hurts it and by the way,

1881
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 1: best record in football. Like, as much as we've been

1882
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: you know, wedding on the Eagles best record in football,

1883
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: I think you're shay are we talking you in at

1884
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 1: this point? Since you you hate all quarterbacks are we

1885
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 1: talking to you in at this point.

1886
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 4: No, I mean I'm listening. I'm listening because I mean,

1887
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts. I feel like it's the same thing as

1888
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes though at this at this point almost it's like, yeah,

1889
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 4: he's he's having a good year, but it's not the

1890
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 4: year that he's had and are we going to give

1891
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 4: him an MVP on not his best year ever? I

1892
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 4: don't think so, and I don't think he should be

1893
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 4: number three because of that. But like again, I'm listening.

1894
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 4: I'm listening to what you guys have to say, and

1895
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 4: I want to see but again I don't He's not

1896
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 4: definitely not having the best year of his career that

1897
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 4: you guys agree with that.

1898
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 3: Production wise, his numbers are are I think not comparable

1899
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 3: to last season, but I think the team isn't as

1900
01:28:58,160 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 3: good as it was last season, and he has had

1901
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 3: the shoulder more of the burden on top of the

1902
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 3: fact that he's not one hundred and I mean he's

1903
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 3: he's almost I won't say single handily. Nobody does anything

1904
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 3: single handily in a game of football, but he's won games.

1905
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 3: I mean that Buffalo game, a couple of huge drives

1906
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 3: in the last, the final quarter, in and overtime. There's

1907
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 3: certain plays that he made. There's only a handful of

1908
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 3: other quarterbacks who would have the ability to be able

1909
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 3: to make that, and certainly replacement level quarterbacks would not

1910
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 3: be able to do the things that he's doing.

1911
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 2: So that's why I have him.

1912
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 1: There is being the like because here's the hardest part

1913
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: of it. I would argue that with Dak, you have

1914
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: to have CD as part of the conversation. With Tua,

1915
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: you have to have Tyreek as part of the conversation.

1916
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 1: With Jalen Hurts, you have to have AJ Brown as

1917
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: part of the conversation, which also speaks to how great

1918
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 1: some of these wide receivers are playing this year, like

1919
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: the elite of the elite. And then I guess part

1920
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 1: of the MVP conversation to me is that I believe

1921
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 1: that CD and AJ Brown are playing at such a

1922
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: high level, and I believe Tyreek is even a step

1923
01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 1: ahead of them. But how do we factor in some

1924
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: of that when we're analyzing these guys. It's hard because

1925
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the Eagles offense looks the same

1926
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: if you take AJ Brown away, I'm damn well sure

1927
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't look the same if you take Jalen Hurts away,

1928
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, so like that's the hard part of it.

1929
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 3: It is, it is, And look you also have to

1930
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 3: look at, you know, their overall records as well. Now

1931
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 3: look it's I think it's a feather in the cap

1932
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 3: of Christian mccaffre, who you pined for last segment, because

1933
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers went into Philadelphia and just you know,

1934
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 3: smacked them up around on their own home fields. But

1935
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 3: they've won some big games this year. They beat the

1936
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles against you know, some solid teams. The Cowboys

1937
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 3: are are a solid team. It has one of those

1938
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 3: MVP candidates you were just talking about. They beat albeit

1939
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 3: this is not the best Kansas City chief team, but

1940
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 3: they're still the defending champs and they went into air

1941
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 3: Ahead and defeated them. So and then I mean, I

1942
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 3: mentioned the Buffalo game, a team fighting for its playoff

1943
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 3: lives and still has one of the best quarterbacks in

1944
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 3: the league, and they beat them in a nip and

1945
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 3: tuck game. So I feel like he's responded in every

1946
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 3: single situation where he's needed to against the poorest team's

1947
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 3: good teams. It hasn't mattered. And Jalen Hurts has still

1948
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 3: been the engine of them makes them go.

1949
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 1: Now.

1950
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:01,839
Speaker 2: I think the argument about.

1951
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 3: AJ Brown is certainly a valid one, but I do

1952
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,839
Speaker 3: think the run element and the uniqueness of their offense

1953
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 3: and him orchestrating that offense is what gives him a

1954
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 3: leg up over someone like Dak Prescott, who's more of

1955
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 3: a traditional pocket passer.

1956
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree with all of that. I think

1957
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 1: sometimes some of these quarterbacks are canceling each other out,

1958
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: which is why I'll go back to making my case

1959
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 1: for Christian McCaffrey. And it's funny because I wanted to

1960
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: look this back up to make sure that I haven't

1961
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 1: lost my mind, because you know, I'm pretty not smart sometimes,

1962
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: So I looked it back up, and you know, let's

1963
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 1: look at last year. Last year, Christian McCaffrey rushed for

1964
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 1: eleven thirty nine eleven one, one hundred and thirty nine

1965
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,720
Speaker 1: yards over the course of seventeen games. Right so far

1966
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: this year he has one thousand and thirty two. So

1967
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 1: you're talking about he's just about to eclipse what he

1968
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 1: did last year. And last year it felt like he

1969
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: was getting more love and respect for receiving last year

1970
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 1: seven hundred and forty one yards. Well this this year

1971
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 1: already four hundred and twenty nine. So you start to

1972
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 1: look at his touchdown numbers this year, he's a he'scounted

1973
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: for seventeen touchdowns overall this year, which is more than

1974
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 1: he had throughout the entirety of last season. So when

1975
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: you think about Christian McCaffrey, I almost think that there

1976
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: is a lebron like moment, an mj like moment, a

1977
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 1: Kobe like moment. We normalize greatness and the first time

1978
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:14,719
Speaker 1: we see it, we say, oh my god, I can't

1979
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,680
Speaker 1: believe it, and then after a few years of seeing it,

1980
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 1: we're just like, oh, yeah, that's pretty cool. Like I

1981
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: think that's where we are with Christian McCaffrey, and I'm

1982
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 1: not sure that's the right place to be in. I

1983
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: know that, you know, a few years ago, the combined

1984
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 1: yardage was absolutely through the roof. But with twenty three

1985
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 1: twenty four hundred yards combined, he's not on pace right

1986
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 1: now for that. But when you look at what he's

1987
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 1: done touchdown wise, what he's done touch wise, where his

1988
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 1: averages are, is there really anybody more important to the

1989
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 1: success of their team other than Tyreek kill than Christian McCaffrey.

1990
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: I think you could argue, No, the way he's played

1991
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 1: this season feels MVPs to me. It feels transcendent to me.

1992
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 2: No, you're right.

1993
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 3: And the difficult part is, and we're talking about this

1994
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 3: season in particular, but if you go back to last

1995
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 3: year what San Francisco traded for him, it was almost

1996
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 3: seen as a luxury pickup. I mean they I think

1997
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 3: there were seven and three or something like that when

1998
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 3: they traded for him. And obviously he is a difference

1999
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 3: maker and took their offense to a completely different level.

2000
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 3: But it's not as if this offense was not necessarily

2001
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 3: good or productive before he got there. Now, maybe they

2002
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 3: went from being good to great, and I certainly shouldn't

2003
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 3: be discounted, but I wonder if he has that working

2004
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 3: against him. It wasn't like they needed him to go

2005
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 3: to another, you know, to be a competitive super Bowl

2006
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:31,600
Speaker 3: caliber or a playoff caliber team. Maybe they were a

2007
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 3: playoff caliber team and not a super Bowl caliber team,

2008
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 3: and maybe that puts him over the top.

2009
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:35,839
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm telling.

2010
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,839
Speaker 1: Me, but I'll go back to and this is what's difficult,

2011
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: because you're right, I think the luxury conversation around Christian

2012
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 1: McCaffrey is fair. But I also I'll go back to

2013
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,759
Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick from ESPN who tweeted out yesterday the nineteen

2014
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:52,759
Speaker 1: nineties forty nine Ers offense Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Brent Jones,

2015
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:56,759
Speaker 1: Roger Craig, Tom Rathman with Mike Holmgrenn as the offensive coordinator,

2016
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 1: and he said Joe Montana won the MVP that year.

2017
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: I think his point was making the point that Joe

2018
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 1: Montana won the MVP in the year where he had

2019
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 1: incredible weapons, including a Hall of Famer with him, and

2020
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 1: a couple of guys that should be in that conversation, right.

2021
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 1: But you look at this forty nine Ers offense and

2022
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 1: then you start thinking about, Okay, George Kittle is gonna

2023
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: be one of those guys that we talk about forever.

2024
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey is going to be one of those guys

2025
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 1: that we talk about forever. Right, Like you go up

2026
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 1: and down the list, this forty nine Ers offense is

2027
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: so stacked with guys that I think are going to

2028
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: be memorable for this generation for what they accomplished. I

2029
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 1: do think that changes the conversation around all of them

2030
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: fair or not. It just feels like they're so stacked

2031
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 1: offensively that it's hard to figure out which one to

2032
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 1: give the credit to, and how much of the credit

2033
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 1: goes to them, and how they're defended based on the

2034
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 1: other people, like all of these things that we think about.

2035
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so typically when that happens, to your point

2036
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 3: into Lewis, you know, tweeting that out, who gets the

2037
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 3: credit in situations like that, Generally it's the quarterback. Yeah,

2038
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 3: Usually the quarterback is the one who's throwing the passes

2039
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,640
Speaker 3: to all those guys. Because what differentiates San Francisco and

2040
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 3: someone like Party from someone like Jalen Hurts and say

2041
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 3: a J. Brown ed J Brown is gobblin up all.

2042
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 3: You know, the majority of the catches Ceedee Lamb is

2043
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 3: getting most of the production from Dak Prescott, Party spreading

2044
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 3: it around. I mean McCaffrey has over a thousand yards rushing, yes,

2045
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 3: but I mean Deebo Samuels has what five hundred and

2046
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,759
Speaker 3: sixty yards receiving, Kittle has almost eight hundred yards receiving.

2047
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuka is knocking on the door of one thousand yards.

2048
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 3: So all these guys are eating and Brock Party is

2049
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 3: the guy who's kind of the the maestro who's distributing

2050
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 3: it to all of them. So in a situation where

2051
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 3: there's multiple players having excellent seasons, usually the nod goes

2052
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:31,679
Speaker 3: to the quarterback. And even though Christian McCaffrey's having another

2053
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 3: spectacular all around season, I feel like most voters would

2054
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,759
Speaker 3: put the give the nod to Brock Party for that reason.

2055
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 4: I definitely agree with kfeg right there. I was also

2056
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 4: going to just bring that up. I was just trying

2057
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 4: to find a spot to get in. But no, seriously,

2058
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 4: when you because I feel like the only reason we're

2059
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,480
Speaker 4: not talking about Brock Party is because of CMC's greatness.

2060
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 4: But you can't take away I mean, he's accounted for

2061
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 4: like fifty eight percent of the touchdowns this season, which

2062
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 4: is way more than I thought, and as well, like

2063
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 4: you would think, like in like they played a lot

2064
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 4: more running plays than passing plays, but it's only been

2065
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 4: like forty eight percent passing plays compared to fifty two

2066
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 4: percent rushing plays. So it really isn't a huge difference

2067
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 4: in regards to CMC really putting the team on his

2068
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 4: back as well as Brock putting the team on his back.

2069
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 4: And also Purdy's first in the NFL with nine point

2070
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 4: six yards per attempt, so it's pretty like easy. I

2071
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 4: feel like to say brock Purty a little bit more

2072
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 4: than CMC. I mean, I love CMC, don't get me wrong.

2073
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 4: Seventeen touchdowns and then he had this crazy stat like

2074
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 4: even I know we're only talking about this year, but

2075
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 4: last year he had like so many touchdowns. I think

2076
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 4: it was like the most back to back games with

2077
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 4: a touchdown. But still like brock Purty as kfixeg, everyone's

2078
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 4: eating on the Niners, and it's not because of CMC,

2079
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 4: it's because of Purdy.

2080
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna ask you a very simple question, though,

2081
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 1: I'll ask both of you, all right, and big I

2082
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: don't like to put injury into the ethos, so I'm

2083
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:52,759
Speaker 1: not even gonna say injury. I'm just gonna say, let's

2084
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,759
Speaker 1: say the forty nine ers were looking around before their game,

2085
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,600
Speaker 1: any game, playoff game, we'll say, and one of the

2086
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:00,640
Speaker 1: guys got the poops and he wasn't gonna be able

2087
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 1: to play because you know, tummy issues, right, so there's

2088
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 1: nothing he could do. All right, this is an imaginary situation.

2089
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 1: If the forty nine ers had to choose for that

2090
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 1: one game to not have Brock Party or do not

2091
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 1: have Christian McCaffrey. Who are they choosing.

2092
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 4: Don't have Christian McCaffrey. I think just because of the

2093
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 4: back So think about this. You have so many offensive weapons.

2094
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 4: You got Deebo Samuel with your backup at QB, you

2095
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 4: got Trey Lance.

2096
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 2: You're gonna trust Trey Lance or Sam Donald? Sam Donald? Yeah?

2097
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:28,759
Speaker 2: So are are you gonna trust Sam Donald?

2098
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 3: It's like the level and to a certain degree, I

2099
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 3: see what Shay is saying, because there's a certain level

2100
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 3: of drop off from Brock Party to Sam Donald, from

2101
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:40,679
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey to say and Elijah Mitchell and a scheme

2102
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 3: that's very heavily run area in it.

2103
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 1: Now.

2104
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 3: Look, McCaffrey is a matchup nightmare, could do a lot

2105
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 3: of different things out of the backfield. He's extremely valuable

2106
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 3: in that role. But I like to think that Brock

2107
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:54,559
Speaker 3: Party because of the way that he's mattered at the offense.

2108
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 3: You know, it sounds weird to say, but I feel

2109
01:37:57,960 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 3: like they'd almost rather for a one game occurrence if

2110
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,679
Speaker 3: they have to be without one of those guys, they'd

2111
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 3: probably rather have Rock Purty and not Sam Donald under center.

2112
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 1: Ooh, I don't know. We're brought to you by Progressive Insurance.

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Speaker 1: just like the Committee, we came to no consensus on

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Speaker 1: our top four, so we have absolutely failed at the

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Speaker 1: MVP conversation, but we have decided to give it to

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Speaker 1: Tyreek in the meantime. What if I told you facial

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Speaker 1: hair could absolutely change the entire scope and landscape of

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball? Hear me out. We'll tell you about

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Speaker 1: it next. This Fellas on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: in Fox Sports Saturday Live from the ti Raq dot

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Speaker 1: com studios. We are the Fellas. I'm Jason Fitz hanging

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Speaker 1: out with Mighty, Mark Shay and Figgy. What if I

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Speaker 1: told you the facial hair could absolutely change the entire

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Speaker 1: landscape of Major League baseball? Cameron Mayban tweeted out, this

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01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 1: might be an unpopular take to Yankees fans, But you'd

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01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 1: be surprised how much more attractive the Yankees would be

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01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 1: if they got rid of that facial hair real rule.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't believe how many quality players just think it's

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Speaker 1: a whack rule to have. I mean, come on, we're

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Speaker 1: coming up on twenty twenty four, let that go already,

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Speaker 1: and I swear it would be more appealing. Again, this

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Speaker 1: only comes from conversations I've had an experience from actually playing.

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Speaker 1: I always think it's interesting when you hear from former

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Speaker 1: players like this because it speaks to just sort of

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Speaker 1: the divide. And as much as we laugh about it, look,

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Speaker 1: I don't think show Hey's out here wanting a big

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Speaker 1: old beard, so like, I don't think that's necessarily part

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Speaker 1: of the show Hey conversation. We'll get into in a second.

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Speaker 1: But Figgy, I just gotta feel like if you could

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Speaker 1: grow a beard, things would be much easier for the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: And people have said this throughout the years, and some

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Speaker 3: guys have been willing to sacrifice. One of the more

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Speaker 3: popular ones was Johnny Damon, who looked like a caveman,

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Speaker 3: and he left the Red Sox because the Yankees, you know,

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01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 3: gave him at all, for he couldn't refuse. So I

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01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 3: mean that works on some guys. But there's have been

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Speaker 3: a lot that I've spoken off the record, I know,

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01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 3: specifically to me saying like, yeah, the Yankees are not

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01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 3: appealing because they're telling me that I have to change

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01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 3: my look. And it's pretty ridiculous, especially in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: that we're telling a girl man that he can't grod

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Speaker 3: his hair, Like what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially given how much the world has changed. I'll

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01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 1: never forget when I did first take the first time

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Speaker 1: on a ESPN, they wouldn't let me roll my sleeves up.

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01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 1: I'd have a suit on to cover my tattoos because

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Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, they weren't comfortable having

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Speaker 1: tattoos on air. Now you've got, you know, guys on

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Speaker 1: air wearing tank tops and showing everything right, So, like,

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Speaker 1: it's just amazing the world has changed, and so I

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Speaker 1: understand why the rule may have been in place, But

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Speaker 1: I also think that you need to look around now

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Speaker 1: and just say, Okay, what does the modern society look

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Speaker 1: like and how do we fit into where players are now?

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01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 1: This is a much different era of player empowerment across

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Speaker 1: all of sports than it was thirty or forty years ago.

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Speaker 1: You either adapt or you get left behind. Show Hey,

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Speaker 1: News obviously dominated the baseball cycle yesterday, but there's a

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Speaker 1: real question that we need to ask about whether he

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01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 1: should be getting this kind of money. We will do that, but.

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Speaker 3: First FIGI hit us with some tripp All right, Well,

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Speaker 3: the NBA Friday night, the Clippers won their third consecutive game.

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Speaker 3: They defeated the Jazz in Utah one seventeen to one

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Speaker 3: oh three as Kawhi Leerhnerd scored a game high forty

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Speaker 3: one points. Sacramento Kings dearon Fox with thirty four points,

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Speaker 3: twenty three of them in the fourth quarter in a

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Speaker 3: victory over Phoenix one fourteen to one oh six the

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Speaker 3: final there as Kevin Durant missed the game for the Phoenix.

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Speaker 3: Suns Houston picking up his first road victory of the

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Speaker 3: season in a victory over Denver one fourteen to one

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Speaker 3: oh six. Sixteen straight losses for the Spurs, they failed

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01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 3: to the Bulls one twenty one to one twelve. You

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Speaker 3: had victories for the Thunder seventy six Ers, Celtics and

2190
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Speaker 3: the Timberwolves in NFL news, Seahawks quarterback Gino Smith will

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Speaker 3: be a game time decision for their matchup against the

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Speaker 3: forty nine Ers after he suffered a growing injury in

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Speaker 3: practice on Thursday. Chiefs running back Isaiah Pacheco has been

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Speaker 3: ruled out of Sunday's game against Buffalo with a shoulder injury.

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01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence to the Jaguars questionable, likely a game time

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Speaker 3: decision for Sunday's matchup against Cleveland as he can and

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Speaker 3: used to nurse an ankle injury. Back to the Fellas, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, so show Hey, o TOADI wildly in the news. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we all were sitting there looking at tweets about flights.

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Speaker 1: Where is it gonna be, what's it gonna look like?

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Speaker 1: What's next for show Hey? And the question is, as

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Speaker 1: you look at the money that he's going to get,

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01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: it's anticipated he will get the largest contract in North

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Speaker 1: American sports history. Is the money worth it? And there's

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Speaker 1: part of this conversation, right Like we talk about the

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Speaker 1: greatness of what show Hey has done, and I think

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Speaker 1: we have to acknowledge that anytime you hit free agency,

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Speaker 1: anytime you are looking at a new contract, in most

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Speaker 1: business like this, you are not paid for what you

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01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 1: have done. You are paid for what you are expected

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Speaker 1: to do moving forward. Contracts that are a reward for

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01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: prior greatness never seem to really work out. And what

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01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself in a vacuum at least

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Speaker 1: is do we believe that moving forward we will make

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Speaker 1: money off of this deal, that this deal will make

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Speaker 1: our team better moving forward for the next five years,

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01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 1: everything will matter. The very same things I say about

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Speaker 1: Belichick all the time. We can, on one hand acknowledge

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Speaker 1: the greatness of what he has accomplished, and then on

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Speaker 1: the other hand acknowledge where they are now and what

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Speaker 1: that means moving forward for the Patriots. You have to

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Speaker 1: say the same thing about show Hey, because if the

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Speaker 1: money is going to be iconic, oh my god, I

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Speaker 1: cannot believe this money. Then it is also fair to say,

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Speaker 1: are you paying for what has happened in the past,

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Speaker 1: which is a player that is the modern babe Ruth?

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Speaker 1: Are you paying for what you think you're going to

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Speaker 1: get moving forward? And Figgie, I think that's a tough argument.

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Speaker 1: There is a point here. If I'm looking around and

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Speaker 1: you came to me as an owner, I'm going to

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01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 1: ask you what are we paying for? Are we paying

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Speaker 1: for a hitter a pitcher or we paying for both?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that's the difficult part, and that's why there

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Speaker 3: are some rumors that he Choey Ootoni might even sign

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Speaker 3: a short term deal with maybe an opt out after

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01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 3: the second or third year so he can get himself

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Speaker 3: back out on the market and market himself as a pitcher,

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01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:14,599
Speaker 3: because we just don't know, like as at this point

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Speaker 3: in time, a guy's coming off of a second Tommy

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Speaker 3: John surgery. There have been some success stories off of that,

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Speaker 3: but certainly not a whole lot. But look, even as

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Speaker 3: a hitter, I mean, the guy is absolutely amazing with

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Speaker 3: forty four home runs last year.

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Speaker 2: All of his numbers were totally off the charts.

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Speaker 3: But you're volume a little bit differently if he's only

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Speaker 3: going to be a hitter versus going to be a

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Speaker 3: hitter and a pitcher at the same time. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: it is a very important question to ask. And the

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Speaker 3: problem is, I do think that whether it's the Blue Jays,

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Speaker 3: the Dodgers, the Angels, all the teams that are rumored

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Speaker 3: to still be in the mix for this, you wonder

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Speaker 3: if they don't even care, because again you talk about

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Speaker 3: is it going to pay dividends? You're asking if it's

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Speaker 3: gonna pay dividends on the baseball field. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: business wise, it will pay dividends for whoever signs them.

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Speaker 3: And I think, and to a certain degree, Jason like

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Speaker 3: this is that that's as important as whatever he brings

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Speaker 3: to them on the field.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're right. There's just no way to jump

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Speaker 1: around that. You're right. Like when you talk about what

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Speaker 1: matters to ownership, you got to ask, Okay, hey, imagine

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Speaker 1: this is scenario you and I fig Figgy and I

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Speaker 1: walk up to Shae. Shae, you are now the team owner.

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Speaker 1: And I walk up to Shane and I say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we we got this idea. You know, like like the

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Speaker 1: movie Elf when they're trying to figure out the next

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Speaker 1: big book and the ideas they bring in another writer,

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Speaker 1: like we got this idea, all right, I'm really stoked

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Speaker 1: about it. But here's the thing. What we need, Shae

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Speaker 1: is we need you to open up your pocketbook and

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Speaker 1: we need you to write a check for show. Hey, oh, Tony,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Shane. You tell me as an owner,

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Speaker 1: is your first thought, oh man, are we gonna win?

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Speaker 1: Or is your first thought? Are we gonna make money

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Speaker 1: back on this deal?

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Speaker 4: I think it's are we going to make money back

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Speaker 4: on this deal? And I'm pretty sure most people would

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Speaker 4: think that. I mean maybe if you're a massive fan,

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Speaker 4: yeah you care about winning, But I mean this is

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Speaker 4: all about money, and it's always been about money. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is a business when it really comes down to it. Yeah,

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01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 4: we love it and we make it more than it is.

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Speaker 4: But this has always been a business and it's all

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Speaker 4: about making money at the end of the day. That's

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Speaker 4: why coaches get fired, that's why players get let go,

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01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 4: and that's why people are paying so much money for this.

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Speaker 4: The only issue with this I see really is I

2294
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 4: don't think there's ever been a player that basically missed

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Speaker 4: that much time with that much injury, Like like Rinaldo

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Speaker 4: wouldn't get that much money if he got that kind

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Speaker 4: of surgery. MESSI wouldn't get that much money if he

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Speaker 4: got that injury. Lebron wouldn't get that much money if

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Speaker 4: he literally had that injury. Like, it doesn't make sense

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Speaker 4: to me. I don't think there's ever been a player

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Speaker 4: in the history of sports that had literally one of

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Speaker 4: these same injuries, not even the season, Like he literally

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Speaker 4: sat out last season at the end. It's not even

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Speaker 4: been like two or three months, and he's about to

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Speaker 4: get a five hundred to seven hundred million dollar deal

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Speaker 4: and break records.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, dude, Tiger Woods won't.

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Speaker 4: Like the only reason he's doing that is because of

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Speaker 4: his name, And I think that's something I can kind

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Speaker 4: of compare it to show, hey, like a Tiger situation.

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Speaker 4: But even then, it's like he's he's young, like we

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Speaker 4: need to get some output out of him, and there

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01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,560
Speaker 4: has been no output. I mean, yeah, he's a great player,

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01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 4: but he hasn't won anything. And you saw that with

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01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 4: Trout he was a great player and he didn't win anything.

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01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 4: So this guy's also injured. So it's it's kind of

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01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:23,719
Speaker 4: wild to me, Like I can't believe it, So he's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be able to hit though, So now, yeah to

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01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 3: Tommy John surgery and didn't pitch at all in twenty

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Speaker 3: nineteen and had a pretty good offensive year despite the

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Speaker 3: fact that he couldn't pitch.

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Speaker 2: So you're paying for that too, No, one hundred percent.

2323
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 4: And then like you can't compare it to other sports

2324
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 4: because yes, he can bat and that, Like I can't

2325
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 4: compare him to Ronaldo there, but you're paying for fifty

2326
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 4: percent of him, so you should give fifty percent of him,

2327
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, is he worth one

2328
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 4: point four billion dollars?

2329
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 1: No? So well, but yeah, you're right in theory. But

2330
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 1: here's the real question. What's the cost of relevance? Like

2331
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 1: when we look at the NBA, I say this all

2332
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: the time. You got max value players that really aren't

2333
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 1: worth max contract. You see it all the time, and

2334
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 1: you saying, man, you're gonna pay him that. But the

2335
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 1: question is, all right, it's that or become irrelevant. And

2336
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 1: that was a question all the way back when all

2337
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:15,640
Speaker 1: the stars were leaving OKAC. One of the questions I

2338
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 1: asked an NBA insider at the time is what's the

2339
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 1: cost of relevance? At what point do you look around

2340
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 1: and say, hey, I don't care how much I have

2341
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,719
Speaker 1: to spend, and I really don't care if we win games.

2342
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 1: I just want people to know that we have a team.

2343
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,599
Speaker 1: I want people to buy this stuff. I want people

2344
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 1: to watch the highlights. I want people to consume what

2345
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 1: we're doing. I want people to fill the stadium and

2346
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 1: buy the overpriced beers and hot dogs. I want people

2347
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:40,599
Speaker 1: to buy the jerseys. I want people to understand the brand.

2348
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 1: I want the brand to make money. And one of

2349
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 1: the toughest things about sports ownership is that you own

2350
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 1: a team that's supposed to win championships, but also it's business.

2351
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 1: It's how you make money. And the more we talk

2352
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 1: about show hey guys, the more I keep thinking about

2353
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 1: for whoever ends up signing him, this isn't necessarily about oh,

2354
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to couch. It is this helps

2355
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 1: us win the world. Here, sure, cool, cute, that's fun,

2356
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a beautiful, beautiful sentiment. Let's go there.

2357
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 1: But realistically, like, figure, you've made this clear, and I

2358
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: think you're right. This is a return on investment, is

2359
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 1: cost of relevance, and so I'm gonna look at it

2360
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, if he cost me a billion dollars,

2361
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 1: can I make one point five? If he cost me

2362
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 1: one point five, can I make three? Can I make

2363
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 1: enough off of this deal that my brand grows, that

2364
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 1: my valuation for my franchise grows, that I make more

2365
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 1: money Like that at the end of the day, is

2366
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,560
Speaker 1: a huge part of what this conversation is for whoever writes.

2367
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 2: A check yep.

2368
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 3: And if the results of that is you can't spend

2369
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 3: as much money on other players, and you're gonna be

2370
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 3: mired in mediocrity, so be it. It's hurd and degree

2371
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 3: and you know the fans, you know there's gonna be

2372
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:47,719
Speaker 3: the initial shine and everything's gonna be exciting and great.

2373
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 3: Look I saw this with the Angels firsthand. Out of

2374
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 3: the first three or four years, it's incredible. Then after

2375
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 3: a while it's like, well, yeah, well we'll go to

2376
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:55,599
Speaker 3: the park to watch this guy play. What the rest

2377
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 3: of the team is trash? But what difference does it

2378
01:49:57,439 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 3: Makeer're watching a great player do his thing and the

2379
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 3: owner are making their money. Yeah, they say they want

2380
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 3: to win, and I'm sure they're gonna try to put

2381
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 3: a competitive team on the field as much as they

2382
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:09,679
Speaker 3: possibly can, but ultimately it's all about, you know, cashing

2383
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 3: the checks and making sure they turn a profit on

2384
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 3: this thing. And so especially for a franchise like Toronto. Look,

2385
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 3: and Toronto has spent them, not saying that they're cheap

2386
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,719
Speaker 3: by any stretch. And Rogers basically owns the entire continent,

2387
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:23,679
Speaker 3: you know, or at least that our country of Canada,

2388
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 3: so they they print money up there. I'm not saying

2389
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 3: they wouldn't invest. And obviously the Dodgers invest. They've been

2390
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 3: one of the most successful franchises in baseball since the

2391
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 3: Googen Hind partners bought them years ago. But yeah, I

2392
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 3: can't sit here and act like competing on the baseball

2393
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 3: field is chief among the reasons why you would sign them,

2394
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 3: as weird as it might stout sound, and us talking

2395
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 3: sports talk radio and talking about competing and wanting to win,

2396
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 3: I just don't believe when you're talking about a deal

2397
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 3: of this magnitude with an international superstar, that winning on

2398
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 3: the field is the most important factor.

2399
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 2: I really don't think that's the case.

2400
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 1: Well, I love your point about going to the game,

2401
01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 1: because we all know, oh man, this team's better than

2402
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 1: then we thought, don't know any of the stars, but yeah,

2403
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:04,559
Speaker 1: let's go to the Okay, that happens sometimes. And then

2404
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 1: when you're on the road and it's like, oh, this

2405
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 1: team's better than we thought and they're in town, we

2406
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 1: should go, oh, yeah, sure that happens sometimes. Hey, you

2407
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 1: want to go see Show. Hey, that happens all the time. Yep. Oh,

2408
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where that game is, Hey, Show Hayes

2409
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 1: in town. Like, I'm not gonna drive up to Fenway

2410
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 1: to just see a plucky team that I didn't didn't

2411
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 1: know was going to be this good. But if you

2412
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 1: tell me Show he's taking on the Red Sox, I'm

2413
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:27,640
Speaker 1: gonna hop in the car with my buddies. We're gonna go.

2414
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:29,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna have the drinks, we're gonna go see the experience.

2415
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 1: So the more we think about Show, Hey, I think,

2416
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 1: the more we have to couch this conversation about what

2417
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 1: it's really about. It's not about winning the World Series.

2418
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 1: It's about winning the bank account. And at the end

2419
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:44,600
Speaker 1: of the day, most of us are fans because we

2420
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 1: are fanatical about a brand of a sport that we love.

2421
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:50,640
Speaker 1: But most owners are owners because they're rich and they

2422
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 1: understand how to make money in the business that they have.

2423
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:55,120
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2424
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:56,840
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2425
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2430
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:12,800
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2431
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:15,320
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2432
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 1: making sure the Fellas get to everybody as soon as

2433
01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 1: possible immediately after all right, coming up next on The Fellas.

2434
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 1: As much as we have been talking about everything else,

2435
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:27,719
Speaker 1: there is one matchup. There's absolutely one must see matchup

2436
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL this weekend, and it is not the

2437
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 1: game you think. We'll tell you about it next on

2438
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 1: The Fellas on Fox Sports Radio. So Fellas on Fox

2439
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Live from the ti rack dot Com studios.

2440
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 1: I just, you know, I gotta let the Christmas music

2441
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 1: breathe a little bit, y'all like it, just it feels good.

2442
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 1: Like I am that guy. I'm Jason fitz hanging out

2443
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 1: the fellas a figgy. Shay mighty Mark causing getting a

2444
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 1: much deserved day off today. I'm gonna be honest with you,

2445
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 1: Like Shay, just just being real. I like going to

2446
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 1: them all even when I don't need anything in Christmas time,

2447
01:52:57,520 --> 01:52:59,679
Speaker 1: just to hear the Christmas I'm just just being honest,

2448
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:02,200
Speaker 1: like like I just like being around the chaos. Everybody's

2449
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 1: shopping and wearing their ugly sweaters and like I got

2450
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 1: my Grinch rebox on and I'm just walking around for

2451
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 1: no good reason, don't need anything. It's just like I

2452
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 1: waved it Santa yesterday at the mall. I was like, eh,

2453
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 1: feeling good, Like there's part of it, like you just

2454
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 1: give me that Christmas music and suddenly I want to

2455
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 1: be in Target for twenty minutes for no good reason.

2456
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I completely agree? Are you kidding me?

2457
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 4: Like we got this place called the Comments near me,

2458
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 4: and it's kind of like where I grew up. It

2459
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 4: was like the place to go on Friday nights and

2460
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 4: it usually plays Frank Sinatra in these like in their audio,

2461
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 4: like while you're walking around. But when Christmas time came along,

2462
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:35,719
Speaker 4: they'd start playing Christmas music. And they had this huge

2463
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 4: tree that they would put up. So as a kid,

2464
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 4: I used to love going there all the time during Christmas,

2465
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:43,439
Speaker 4: just because of the vibes, the music, and I think

2466
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 4: ever since then and because of that, I am so

2467
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 4: okay with Christmas coming in October, like right after Halloween.

2468
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:52,559
Speaker 4: Like I am completely fine with it. Like I bought

2469
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 4: my Christmas tree the day after Thanksgiving, like I was

2470
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 4: ready to go. I was very happy for it. Me

2471
01:53:57,960 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 4: and my mom still haven't decorated it, but it is

2472
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 4: sitting in our living room.

2473
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 3: Do not worry, no, go ahead, I say, the wife

2474
01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 3: and I are right there with you. The day after Christmas.

2475
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 3: By the way, we got our tree and it's set

2476
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 3: up in the room. We haven't had a chance to

2477
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 3: decorate it yet. I'm all for even Thanksgiving Day. But

2478
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 3: November one, Halloween. The problem I happens when you're walking

2479
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 3: around a store and it's October twenty second and there's

2480
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:21,640
Speaker 3: there's a like nine Christmas issles already set up. It

2481
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:23,880
Speaker 3: was like, can, I mean, fits you love Halloween? Can

2482
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 3: we let Halloween breathe for a second. That's the problem

2483
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:26,640
Speaker 3: that I have.

2484
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of like wake up the day

2485
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 1: after like November first, I should walk into the stores

2486
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 1: and everybody overnight reset everything, and it's like and put

2487
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 1: me straight into Christmas then, and like, like I've always said,

2488
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, you hang out, you have some drinks, you

2489
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 1: watch some games, you talk to you your buddies. That's

2490
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 1: what you do at halftime of a football game. Well

2491
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 1: that's what you do on Thanksgiving. So Thanksgivings halftime on Christmas,

2492
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 1: like you can take those two three days off for

2493
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 1: the weekend and then you get right back into it.

2494
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm all in. But you mentioned Sinatra. I believe me.

2495
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 1: We'll get to football in a second. But you mentioned Sinatra.

2496
01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 1: She like there is nothing just more Christmas y but

2497
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 1: also just classy, like bougie that I look like. I'm

2498
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 1: not a boogie guy. But I'm telling you, Christmas time,

2499
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 1: you just you turn all the lights down, so all

2500
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:09,920
Speaker 1: you have is the glow of the Christmas lights on,

2501
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 1: all the decorations and everything. The lights are dim in

2502
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 1: the whole house. You get to you get to record

2503
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 1: player and you just put on like Sinatra, Christmas, any

2504
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,160
Speaker 1: of it. You know you got that. I've got the

2505
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 1: record player that then goes to the Spotify or goes

2506
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 1: to the Sons in the house, so like all the

2507
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 1: speakers have that, like Crispy record he sound, pour yourself

2508
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 1: with glass of whiskey and you just sit down and

2509
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 1: like in a dimly lit room, you just appreciate some Christmas.

2510
01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 1: Like you said, Sinatra, I get all my Christmas feels

2511
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 1: from like hundred Sinatra Christmas on vinyl.

2512
01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 4: Oh you just said whiskey. Have you ever had whiskey

2513
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 4: with agnog or bourbon with agnog?

2514
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 1: No?

2515
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:45,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a new one. What guys, No,

2516
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 2: never had it?

2517
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god, a huge eggnog. Guy has to be

2518
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:51,720
Speaker 3: made just right for me to actually imbibe.

2519
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:54,040
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I only have it when I go

2520
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 4: like snowboarding, or like when I go for Christmas time.

2521
01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 4: That's a big time Christmas drink whiskey and agnog. It's

2522
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 4: like the only time I'll have it. Also, like like

2523
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 4: an alcoholic mocha, like a like a hot chocolate.

2524
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 2: Have you guys ever had that?

2525
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2526
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh sure absolutely.

2527
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:10,320
Speaker 4: I mean I usually call it a mammoth mocha because

2528
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 4: I only have it when I go up to Mammoth.

2529
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 4: But oh my goodness.

2530
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 1: The wait, wait, wait, so mammoth mocha only because you

2531
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 1: go like I would have thought it was just a

2532
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 1: particularly large mocha. So it's like my math.

2533
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 4: No, So there's this there's this mountain in California. It's

2534
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 4: a it's a pretty big ski location and snowboard location.

2535
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 4: It's called Mammoth Mountain. And on the mountain they have

2536
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 4: like the lodges, and in the lodges they have pretty

2537
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 4: big bars. And at these bars, it's like a twenty

2538
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 4: dollars drink. But I'm doing it? Are you kidding me?

2539
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 4: But it is so good and it's so strong, but

2540
01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:44,840
Speaker 4: you don't notice it, so it's perfect for snowboarding. You

2541
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:47,120
Speaker 4: just get a little bit tipsy. You don't really care

2542
01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 4: if you eat, like absolute face, like that would be

2543
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 4: the worst. But other than that, like I'm happy, it's

2544
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 4: great and I'm very excited to drink some megnog and

2545
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 4: whiskey and a Mammoth mocha.

2546
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a big eggnog. I'm kind it's got

2547
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 1: to be perfectly made. I have an old recipe that

2548
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 1: a front of the family gave that that is takes

2549
01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:07,480
Speaker 1: way too long to make and it's worth it. So

2550
01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 1: like I'm an eggnog snob, Like if it's really good eggnog.

2551
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm in on it. But for the most part, Like

2552
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:15,040
Speaker 1: and the funny thing is, once we hit like December

2553
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 1: twenty sixth, I want none of this. Like once we

2554
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 1: hit December twenty sixth, it's like, all right, the lights

2555
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 1: are done. Everything's like but until then, like, oh man,

2556
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 1: like especially when you're sitting in the house and it's

2557
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 1: just the glow of the old like C nine bulbs.

2558
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: You kids are too young to understand, like the it's

2559
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 1: not led, it's it's like it's got this warmth to it.

2560
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 1: It feels like you're at the end of the movie

2561
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 1: Christmas Story where you're just sitting there, like with the

2562
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 1: snow falling in the tree. Oh man, I'm telling like

2563
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 1: that to me when we talk about like the things

2564
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 1: that signify Christmas, just sitting there with like old Sinatra

2565
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 1: Christmas music on, drink in hand and the glow of

2566
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 1: the house. Figgi that that that feels like Christmas.

2567
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 3: Oh, it's amazing. On know what you mean. And you know,

2568
01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 3: we talk about violations on the show all the time.

2569
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 3: You guys tell me this is a violation, and this

2570
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 3: one goes to my wife. So this was two years ago.

2571
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 3: It's Christmas night and she says, what do you think

2572
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 3: about taking down the decorations? And I'm like, oh god,

2573
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 3: I don't. And I swear we never argue about anything.

2574
01:58:15,640 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 3: This was our standing argument. I was like, under north circumstances,

2575
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 3: am I taking down Christmas decorations on Christmas Day? You're

2576
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:24,760
Speaker 3: out of your mind? She's the house is too cluttered.

2577
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:26,720
Speaker 3: I want to. So we had it back and forth

2578
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:28,960
Speaker 3: for probably about two and a half minutes. And of course,

2579
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 3: because I like, you know, my life and happy wife

2580
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 3: after life, I ended up relenting. But I was like

2581
01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:35,840
Speaker 3: that I've never felt more dirty in my life than

2582
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 3: when I tuk down Christmas on Christmas night.

2583
01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:42,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it stays up until like January mid January.

2584
01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 1: For me, I just don't light everything the same way.

2585
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 1: It stays up till mid January. They're like, I just never.

2586
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 1: I never take that, especially with the National Championship Game

2587
01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 1: always being like a week after. We're too like, it's

2588
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:53,840
Speaker 1: too slam, too busy. I feel like it's a mid

2589
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:57,880
Speaker 1: late January thing getting into court like Shay you, I mean,

2590
01:58:57,920 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 1: what's your mom tell you that? I had to throw

2591
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:01,120
Speaker 1: that in? What the moms say about it?

2592
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 4: Grace no, she's I mean we keep it We're lazy,

2593
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 4: are you kid? I mean we keep it up forever.

2594
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:11,920
Speaker 4: When the tree starts dying, that's when we'll throw it away.

2595
01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 1: I just love the fact that it's like, what's what's

2596
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 1: moms say we have to do about that? I've never

2597
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 1: felt older than I do on this show today. Okay,

2598
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 1: I promise you we would get into the matchups of

2599
01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:24,080
Speaker 1: the weekend. There are a couple of huge college, huge

2600
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 1: NFL matchups this weekend, but everybody's talking about one. We'll

2601
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:29,320
Speaker 1: give you a different game you have to watch this weekend.

2602
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 1: Next on the Fellas. In an unpredictable year, we rely

2603
01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:37,440
Speaker 1: more than ever on being able to trust a quarterback

2604
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:41,800
Speaker 1: when it comes to what teams we can trust. We

2605
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 1: rely more than ever on a quarterback when we're trying

2606
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 1: to evaluate coaches. We rely more than ever on quarterbacks

2607
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 1: when it comes to just feeling like our favorite team

2608
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 1: has hope. And right now, if you look at the

2609
01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:59,360
Speaker 1: odds makers, they're relying more than ever on quarterbacks to

2610
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:03,040
Speaker 1: win the The top six, the six best odds right

2611
02:00:03,080 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 1: now to win the MVP all belong to quarterbacks. Either

2612
02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:10,200
Speaker 1: of the top ten all belong to quarterbacks, The question

2613
02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 1: is should it in a year where where the NFL

2614
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:16,879
Speaker 1: looks different than ever, and in a year where frankly,

2615
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 1: the NFL seems less predictable and there are more star

2616
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:24,960
Speaker 1: players making impacts in different ways every single Sunday, maybe

2617
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 1: this is the year where we should force ourselves to

2618
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:31,440
Speaker 1: open the perspective out of this quarterback when it comes

2619
02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:35,360
Speaker 1: to the conversation of who the most important, the most

2620
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:40,040
Speaker 1: valuable player is, because you could argue any given Sunday

2621
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:43,320
Speaker 1: in a year where we see backup quarterbacks trying to thrive,

2622
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:46,160
Speaker 1: in a year where we see guys we've never heard

2623
02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 1: of stepping up behind center and still putting up some

2624
02:00:48,760 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 1: decent numbers, in a year where we see somebody like

2625
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:55,560
Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs go off in that sort of a year,

2626
02:00:56,560 --> 02:01:00,320
Speaker 1: maybe this is that moment where the door's been tracked

2627
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:03,360
Speaker 1: open that we can walk through to start to credit

2628
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 1: other players at other positions that are doing generational things

2629
02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:11,880
Speaker 1: this season that impact the game every single week. It's

2630
02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:15,160
Speaker 1: a Fellows on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Jason Fitz hanging

2631
02:01:15,200 --> 02:01:17,320
Speaker 1: out with Figgie, Shaye, Mighty Mark, you know the group.

2632
02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:19,840
Speaker 1: At this point, we're all hanging out with you. We're

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Speaker 1: The way tire buying should be The MVP vote should

2638
02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:37,680
Speaker 1: be simple. You should be able to walk in and

2639
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,080
Speaker 1: at this point, fourteen weeks into the season, look at

2640
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:42,360
Speaker 1: it and say, you know what, clearly there is someone

2641
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:45,960
Speaker 1: dominating the league. Now, when I say it that way,

2642
02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 1: clearly there is someone dominating the league. There is when

2643
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:57,680
Speaker 1: I say clearly there is someone doing historic things this season.

2644
02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 1: There is when I say, clearly someone is doing something

2645
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:08,720
Speaker 1: this season that the Hall of Fame is gonna remember

2646
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:14,920
Speaker 1: it's happening. Will you factor all of that at oh,

2647
02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 1: and clearly that level of dominance is leading to wins. Yep,

2648
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:27,800
Speaker 1: all of those things are happening. All of those same

2649
02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:33,000
Speaker 1: criteria are being met right now, but they're not being

2650
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 1: met by a quarterback. So what do you do when

2651
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:41,360
Speaker 1: you are watching a dynamic, unstoppable performance, when you are

2652
02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:46,040
Speaker 1: looking at the actions of Tyreek Hill every single week,

2653
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 1: and you gotta admit it when you see the schedule.

2654
02:02:50,680 --> 02:02:52,839
Speaker 1: When you play the schedule game and your your favorite

2655
02:02:52,840 --> 02:02:55,120
Speaker 1: team's taking on the Dolphins, what's the first thing that

2656
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:57,760
Speaker 1: comes to your mind. God, we're not going to be

2657
02:02:57,800 --> 02:03:02,160
Speaker 1: able to stop Tyrek. When you look at the numbers.

2658
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:08,880
Speaker 1: When you look at the numbers, it's historic. It's about

2659
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:11,200
Speaker 1: five hundred yards away from being a two thousand yard

2660
02:03:11,240 --> 02:03:15,960
Speaker 1: receiver and he's doing it on the number one seed

2661
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:19,440
Speaker 1: in the AFC. Oh, the Dolphins haven't beaten anybody, had

2662
02:03:19,440 --> 02:03:21,880
Speaker 1: they have. They may not have beaten anybody very good,

2663
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:25,000
Speaker 1: but they've beaten a lot of teams right now. The

2664
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 1: AFC runs through Miami, and yes, two is a big

2665
02:03:30,160 --> 02:03:33,280
Speaker 1: part of that falls in his hand every snap. That's fine,

2666
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 1: I acknowledge that. I acknowledge it too as a part

2667
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:42,640
Speaker 1: of this conversation. But when I say Dolphins, you say Tyreek.

2668
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:47,160
Speaker 1: And when you start putting history and context behind the

2669
02:03:47,240 --> 02:03:50,280
Speaker 1: numbers we're seeing. It is clear right now who the

2670
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:53,680
Speaker 1: MVP of the NFL is. It is absolutely abundantly clear.

2671
02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:56,560
Speaker 1: His name is Tyreek Hill. He won't win the award,

2672
02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 1: But when he doesn't win the award, maybe we should

2673
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:05,320
Speaker 1: hold MVP voters in the NFL to the same level

2674
02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:08,000
Speaker 1: of scrutiny that we're currently holding the College Football Playoff

2675
02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:12,120
Speaker 1: Committee and ask a real question, is this simply a

2676
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:15,320
Speaker 1: Quarterback of the Year award or is it an MVP?

2677
02:04:16,240 --> 02:04:21,720
Speaker 1: Because history, we'll remember, current football teams know it. Everybody

2678
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:25,520
Speaker 1: knows what's coming and they can't stop it. And if

2679
02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:29,640
Speaker 1: that isn't the definition of an MVP, the hell is

2680
02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:32,920
Speaker 1: the fellas, Let's bring Piggy Shane Mighty Mark. We're doing

2681
02:04:32,920 --> 02:04:36,240
Speaker 1: a committee, we're figuring out the MVP award, and we

2682
02:04:36,320 --> 02:04:38,920
Speaker 1: came to Tyreek Hill as our number one on this.

2683
02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:41,240
Speaker 1: We're doing a committee just like the College FOOTB Playoff Committe.

2684
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:44,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna orbitrarily vote on things. Piggy. The more I

2685
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 1: think about it, Tyreek Kill at number one, I am

2686
02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:48,840
Speaker 1: fired up about. I think it makes sense. I think

2687
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:51,640
Speaker 1: we've settled on Lamar as number two. But I will

2688
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 1: ask you a question as we continue down this list.

2689
02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 1: Does Dak as I just said quarterbacks, would you put

2690
02:04:57,280 --> 02:04:59,360
Speaker 1: Dak or CD on this list?

2691
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:04,200
Speaker 3: Oh well, if it's between the two of them, I

2692
02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:07,360
Speaker 3: will put Dak on the list over CD Lamb for sure.

2693
02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:09,000
Speaker 3: But to be honest with you, I don't know if

2694
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:10,960
Speaker 3: Dak is I do know for a fact Dak is

2695
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 3: not in my top four. I'll tell you that who.

2696
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:16,480
Speaker 1: Not even in your top four? Okay, k Now, because

2697
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:20,880
Speaker 1: currently the best odds, it's a tie between brock Perty

2698
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:23,120
Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott. You know, they're both plus three hundred

2699
02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:25,320
Speaker 1: right now to win the MVP. So so you're just

2700
02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:27,880
Speaker 1: out on Dak altogether as an MVP caliber season.

2701
02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:29,880
Speaker 3: Well for putting him in a top four for this

2702
02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:32,040
Speaker 3: to this current exercise, then yes, if it was a

2703
02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:34,240
Speaker 3: top five, I'm probably put him in to be honest with.

2704
02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:37,800
Speaker 1: You, Okay, okay, And I'm with you that I think

2705
02:05:38,160 --> 02:05:41,120
Speaker 1: part of the reason that you know, I understand that

2706
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 1: there are multiple weapons for the Dolphins that have worked

2707
02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:47,800
Speaker 1: incredibly well. I want to give CD his flowers. While

2708
02:05:47,840 --> 02:05:49,960
Speaker 1: CD has been great, I don't think CD has been

2709
02:05:49,960 --> 02:05:51,760
Speaker 1: at a Tyreek level. I don't think that's not hot.

2710
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:56,200
Speaker 1: Take right, And No, there has been this ascension really

2711
02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:58,920
Speaker 1: of Dak throughout the course of the last month. Particularly,

2712
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:01,120
Speaker 1: I've given Mike McCarthy a lot of credit on this show.

2713
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:04,360
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are an interesting case study here

2714
02:06:04,400 --> 02:06:07,280
Speaker 1: because if I'm looking at Tyreek and I'm looking at Lamar,

2715
02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:10,920
Speaker 1: to me Dak and Jalen Hurts and Lamar are sort

2716
02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:14,440
Speaker 1: of all in the same conversation. They're incredible quarterbacks on

2717
02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:17,800
Speaker 1: incredible teams this year. The question is just how do

2718
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:19,480
Speaker 1: they separate from each other.

2719
02:06:20,520 --> 02:06:22,560
Speaker 3: I think that's a fair question to a certain degree.

2720
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:24,600
Speaker 3: I think the run element for Jalen Hurts, which has

2721
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:27,040
Speaker 3: not been as strong by the way this season, and

2722
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:29,600
Speaker 3: the fact that he's improved as a passer, I think

2723
02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:31,240
Speaker 3: kind of puts him over the top. Granted, he has

2724
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:33,120
Speaker 3: phenomenal weapons. He has, you know, one of the best

2725
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:36,080
Speaker 3: receiver combinations in the entire NFL, and he has one

2726
02:06:36,120 --> 02:06:38,920
Speaker 3: of the best offensive lines in the entire NFL. But

2727
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:43,160
Speaker 3: because of the uniqueness of their offense and just anybody

2728
02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:44,880
Speaker 3: can't go in there and be plug and play and

2729
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:47,760
Speaker 3: run it and run it as efficiently as he does,

2730
02:06:48,160 --> 02:06:50,320
Speaker 3: even despite the fact that he's battling through some injuries.

2731
02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:52,440
Speaker 3: That that's why I give the leg up to Jalen Hurts.

2732
02:06:53,680 --> 02:06:59,600
Speaker 1: I think that the Jalen Hurts angle is the running angle,

2733
02:06:59,640 --> 02:07:01,879
Speaker 1: is a huge part of it. He's such a different

2734
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:05,600
Speaker 1: part of their offense, right Like, there is value to that.

2735
02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:09,480
Speaker 1: As much as we've over over talked about brotherly shove

2736
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:12,520
Speaker 1: or the tush bush or whatever we want to call it.

2737
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:15,000
Speaker 1: It is important to acknowledge that Philly is doing something

2738
02:07:15,080 --> 02:07:17,400
Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts is doing something that a lot of

2739
02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:20,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks simply can't execute. Like I would not trust same

2740
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:24,000
Speaker 1: offensive line, same weapons, same formation, you put brock Party

2741
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:26,040
Speaker 1: behind that offensive line. I don't think he's going to

2742
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:29,200
Speaker 1: get that same first down on that brotherly shove, right Like,

2743
02:07:29,240 --> 02:07:31,720
Speaker 1: I think there is some credit to what Jalen Hurts

2744
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:34,640
Speaker 1: does and in the most indefensible play in the NFL

2745
02:07:34,720 --> 02:07:37,320
Speaker 1: right now, that's just such a different angle and level

2746
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:39,920
Speaker 1: to who he is and what he does, and there's

2747
02:07:39,960 --> 02:07:42,520
Speaker 1: a smoothness to the way he does. The more we talk,

2748
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:44,840
Speaker 1: the more I'm buying Hurts is my number three. I

2749
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:48,560
Speaker 1: think you figure you have smoothly laid out a case

2750
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:51,400
Speaker 1: for Jalen Hurts and by the way, best record in football.

2751
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:53,040
Speaker 1: Like as much as we've been, you know, wedding on

2752
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:56,080
Speaker 1: the Eagles best record in football, I think you're shay.

2753
02:07:56,440 --> 02:07:58,760
Speaker 1: Are we talking you in at this point? Since you

2754
02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:01,800
Speaker 1: hate all quarterbacks? Are we talking to you again?

2755
02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:05,560
Speaker 4: No, I mean I'm listening. I'm listening because I mean

2756
02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:07,960
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts. I feel like it's the same thing as

2757
02:08:07,960 --> 02:08:11,160
Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes thought this at this point, almost it's like, yeah,

2758
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 4: he's he's having a good year, but it's not the

2759
02:08:13,160 --> 02:08:16,040
Speaker 4: year that he's had And are we going to give

2760
02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:18,480
Speaker 4: him an MVP on not his best year ever? I

2761
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:20,280
Speaker 4: don't think so, and I don't think he should be

2762
02:08:20,360 --> 02:08:24,320
Speaker 4: number three because of that. But like again, I'm listening.

2763
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:26,320
Speaker 4: I'm listening to what you guys have to say, and

2764
02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:28,640
Speaker 4: I want to see but again I don't He's not

2765
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:30,800
Speaker 4: definitely not having the best year of his career that

2766
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:31,760
Speaker 4: you guys agree with that.

2767
02:08:33,480 --> 02:08:36,160
Speaker 3: Production wise, his numbers are are I think not comparable

2768
02:08:36,240 --> 02:08:38,360
Speaker 3: to last season, but I think the team isn't as

2769
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:40,240
Speaker 3: good as it was last season, and he has had

2770
02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:42,880
Speaker 3: to shoulder more of the burden on top of the

2771
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 3: fact that he's not one hundred and I mean he's

2772
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:48,480
Speaker 3: he's almost I won't say single handedly. Nobody does anything

2773
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:50,920
Speaker 3: single handedly in a game of football, but he's won games.

2774
02:08:50,920 --> 02:08:53,600
Speaker 3: I mean that Buffalo game, a couple of huge drives

2775
02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:55,920
Speaker 3: in the last the final quarter, in and overtime. There's

2776
02:08:56,080 --> 02:08:58,080
Speaker 3: certain plays that he made. There's only a handful of

2777
02:08:58,120 --> 02:09:00,640
Speaker 3: other quarterbacks who would have the ability to be able

2778
02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:03,000
Speaker 3: to make that, and certainly replacement level quarterbacks would not

2779
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:04,560
Speaker 3: be able to do the things that he's doing.

2780
02:09:05,480 --> 02:09:06,400
Speaker 2: So that's why I have him.

2781
02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:10,880
Speaker 1: There is being the like because here's the hardest part

2782
02:09:10,920 --> 02:09:15,400
Speaker 1: of it. I would argue that with Dak, you have

2783
02:09:15,480 --> 02:09:17,600
Speaker 1: to have CD as part of the conversation. With Tua,

2784
02:09:17,680 --> 02:09:20,080
Speaker 1: you have to have Tyreek as part of the conversation.

2785
02:09:20,200 --> 02:09:22,000
Speaker 1: With Jalen Hurts, you have to have a J Brown

2786
02:09:22,040 --> 02:09:24,400
Speaker 1: as part of the conversation, which also speaks to how

2787
02:09:24,400 --> 02:09:26,400
Speaker 1: great some of these wide receivers are playing this year,

2788
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:29,880
Speaker 1: like the elite of the elite. And then I guess

2789
02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:32,280
Speaker 1: part of the MVP conversation to me is that I

2790
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:35,400
Speaker 1: believe that CD and AJ Brown are playing at such

2791
02:09:35,400 --> 02:09:37,240
Speaker 1: a high level, and I believe Tyreek is even a

2792
02:09:37,240 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 1: step ahead of them. But how do we factor in

2793
02:09:39,720 --> 02:09:43,000
Speaker 1: some of that when we're analyzing these guys. It's hard

2794
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:46,920
Speaker 1: because I'm not sure that the Eagles offense looks the

2795
02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:48,920
Speaker 1: same if you take AJ Brown away, I'm damn well

2796
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:50,600
Speaker 1: sure it doesn't look the same if you take Jalen

2797
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:52,440
Speaker 1: Hurts away, you know. So, like, that's the hard part

2798
02:09:52,480 --> 02:09:53,200
Speaker 1: of it.

2799
02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:53,560
Speaker 2: It is.

2800
02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:55,760
Speaker 3: It is, And look you also have to look at

2801
02:09:55,800 --> 02:09:57,920
Speaker 3: you know, their overall records as well. Now, look it's

2802
02:09:57,960 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 3: I think it's a feather in the cap of Christian

2803
02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 3: McCaffer who you pined for last segment, because the forty

2804
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:05,440
Speaker 3: nine ers went into Philadelphia and just you know, smacked

2805
02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:08,760
Speaker 3: them up around on their own home field. But they've

2806
02:10:08,800 --> 02:10:11,080
Speaker 3: won some big games this year. They beat the Philadelphia

2807
02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:14,480
Speaker 3: Eagles against you know, some solid teams. The Cowboys are

2808
02:10:14,560 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 3: a solid team. It has one of those MVP candidates

2809
02:10:16,800 --> 02:10:18,880
Speaker 3: you were just talking about. They beat albeit this is

2810
02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:21,000
Speaker 3: not the best Kansas City Chief team, but they're still

2811
02:10:21,040 --> 02:10:23,400
Speaker 3: the defending champs and they went into air ahead and

2812
02:10:23,440 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 3: defeated them. So and then I mean I mentioned the

2813
02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:27,680
Speaker 3: Buffalo game, a team fighting for his playoff lives and

2814
02:10:27,680 --> 02:10:29,280
Speaker 3: still has one of the best quarterbacks in the league,

2815
02:10:29,280 --> 02:10:31,320
Speaker 3: and they beat them in a nip and tuck game.

2816
02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:34,040
Speaker 3: So I feel like he's responded in every single situation

2817
02:10:34,120 --> 02:10:37,600
Speaker 3: where he's needed to against the poorest team's good teams,

2818
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:39,840
Speaker 3: it hasn't mattered, and Jalen Hurts has still been the

2819
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:40,640
Speaker 3: engine that makes them go.

2820
02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:42,080
Speaker 2: Now, I think the argument about A J.

2821
02:10:42,240 --> 02:10:44,760
Speaker 3: Brown is certainly a valid one, but I do think

2822
02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:47,480
Speaker 3: the run element and the uniqueness of their offense and

2823
02:10:47,560 --> 02:10:50,280
Speaker 3: him orchestrating that offense is what gives him a leg

2824
02:10:50,360 --> 02:10:52,400
Speaker 3: up over someone like Dak Prescott, who's more of a

2825
02:10:52,440 --> 02:10:53,560
Speaker 3: traditional pocket passer.

2826
02:10:54,160 --> 02:10:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree with all of that. I think

2827
02:10:56,240 --> 02:10:59,000
Speaker 1: sometimes some of these quarterbacks are canceling each other out,

2828
02:10:59,040 --> 02:11:01,040
Speaker 1: which is why go back to making my case for

2829
02:11:01,120 --> 02:11:03,920
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. And it's funny because I wanted to look

2830
02:11:03,920 --> 02:11:05,560
Speaker 1: this back up to make sure that I haven't lost

2831
02:11:05,560 --> 02:11:08,040
Speaker 1: my mind, because you know, I'm pretty not smart sometimes,

2832
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:10,200
Speaker 1: So I looked it back up, and you know, let's

2833
02:11:10,240 --> 02:11:12,920
Speaker 1: look at last year. Last year, Christian McCaffrey rushed for

2834
02:11:13,040 --> 02:11:15,680
Speaker 1: eleven thirty nine eleven one thy one hundred and thirty

2835
02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:18,680
Speaker 1: nine yards over the course of seventeen games. Right so

2836
02:11:18,800 --> 02:11:20,720
Speaker 1: far this year he has one thousand and thirty two.

2837
02:11:21,080 --> 02:11:24,480
Speaker 1: So you're talking about he's just about to eclipse what

2838
02:11:24,520 --> 02:11:26,280
Speaker 1: he did last year. And last year it felt like

2839
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:28,880
Speaker 1: he was getting more love and respect for receiving last

2840
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:30,960
Speaker 1: year seven hundred and forty one yards. Well, this this

2841
02:11:31,080 --> 02:11:33,800
Speaker 1: year already four hundred and twenty nine. So you start

2842
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:35,800
Speaker 1: to look at his touchdown numbers this year, He's a

2843
02:11:36,080 --> 02:11:39,760
Speaker 1: he'scounted for seventeen touchdowns overall this year, which is more

2844
02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:42,280
Speaker 1: than he had throughout the entirety of last season. So

2845
02:11:42,680 --> 02:11:45,200
Speaker 1: when you think about Christian McCaffrey, I almost think that

2846
02:11:45,280 --> 02:11:49,360
Speaker 1: there is a lebron like moment, an MJ like moment,

2847
02:11:49,400 --> 02:11:52,960
Speaker 1: a Kobe like moment. We normalize greatness and the first

2848
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:54,720
Speaker 1: time we see it, we say, oh my god, I

2849
02:11:54,720 --> 02:11:56,480
Speaker 1: can't believe it, and then after a few years of

2850
02:11:56,520 --> 02:11:58,680
Speaker 1: seeing it, we're just like, oh, yeah, that's pretty cool.

2851
02:11:58,840 --> 02:12:00,879
Speaker 1: Like I think that's where we are with Christian McCaffrey,

2852
02:12:00,920 --> 02:12:02,720
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure that's the right place to be in.

2853
02:12:02,840 --> 02:12:05,280
Speaker 1: I know that, you know, a few years ago, the

2854
02:12:05,360 --> 02:12:09,120
Speaker 1: combined yardage was absolutely through the roof. But with twenty

2855
02:12:09,120 --> 02:12:11,520
Speaker 1: three twenty four hundred yards combined, he's not on pace

2856
02:12:11,600 --> 02:12:13,640
Speaker 1: right now for that. But when you look at what

2857
02:12:13,720 --> 02:12:16,160
Speaker 1: he's done touchdown wise, what he's done touch wise, where

2858
02:12:16,160 --> 02:12:19,600
Speaker 1: his averages are, is there really anybody more important to

2859
02:12:19,640 --> 02:12:21,760
Speaker 1: the success of their team other than Tyreek Kill than

2860
02:12:21,800 --> 02:12:25,240
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. I think you could argue no. The way

2861
02:12:25,240 --> 02:12:28,560
Speaker 1: he's played this season feels MVPs to me, it feels

2862
02:12:28,760 --> 02:12:29,800
Speaker 1: transcendent to me.

2863
02:12:30,240 --> 02:12:32,760
Speaker 3: No, you're right, And the difficult part is, and we're

2864
02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:34,960
Speaker 3: talking about this season in particular, but if you go

2865
02:12:35,000 --> 02:12:37,280
Speaker 3: back to last year when San Francisco traded for him,

2866
02:12:37,920 --> 02:12:40,440
Speaker 3: it was almost seen as a luxury pickup. I mean

2867
02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:43,240
Speaker 3: they I think there were seven and three or something

2868
02:12:43,280 --> 02:12:45,840
Speaker 3: like that when they traded for him. And obviously he

2869
02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:49,040
Speaker 3: is a difference maker and took their offense to a

2870
02:12:49,080 --> 02:12:52,320
Speaker 3: completely different level. But it's not as if this offense

2871
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:55,120
Speaker 3: was not necessarily good or productive before he got there.

2872
02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:57,760
Speaker 3: Now maybe they went from being good to great, and

2873
02:12:57,800 --> 02:13:00,080
Speaker 3: I certainly shouldn't be discounted, but I wonder if if

2874
02:13:00,120 --> 02:13:04,280
Speaker 3: he has that working against him. It wasn't like they

2875
02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:07,840
Speaker 3: needed him to go to another, you know, to be

2876
02:13:07,920 --> 02:13:11,400
Speaker 3: a competitive, a super Bowl caliber or a playoff caliber team.

2877
02:13:11,400 --> 02:13:12,920
Speaker 3: Maybe they were a playoff caliber team and not a

2878
02:13:12,920 --> 02:13:14,480
Speaker 3: super Bowl caliber team, and maybe that puts them over

2879
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:14,800
Speaker 3: the top.

2880
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, I tell me.

2881
02:13:16,000 --> 02:13:19,040
Speaker 1: But I'll go back to And this is what's difficult,

2882
02:13:19,080 --> 02:13:22,120
Speaker 1: because you're right, I think the luxury conversation around Christian

2883
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:25,720
Speaker 1: McCaffrey is fair. But I also I'll go back to

2884
02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:29,000
Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick from ESPN, who tweeted out yesterday the nineteen

2885
02:13:29,080 --> 02:13:33,000
Speaker 1: nineties forty nine Ers offense Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Brent Jones,

2886
02:13:33,080 --> 02:13:37,000
Speaker 1: Roger Craig, Tom Rathman with Mike holmgreann as the offensive coordinator,

2887
02:13:37,000 --> 02:13:38,840
Speaker 1: and he said Joe Montana won the MVP that year.

2888
02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:41,120
Speaker 1: I think his point Lewis was making the point that

2889
02:13:41,200 --> 02:13:43,400
Speaker 1: Joe Montana won the MVP in the year where he

2890
02:13:43,480 --> 02:13:46,160
Speaker 1: had incredible weapons, including a Hall of Famer with him,

2891
02:13:46,160 --> 02:13:49,120
Speaker 1: and a couple of guys that should be in that conversation, right.

2892
02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:51,800
Speaker 1: But you look at this forty nine Ers offense and

2893
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:54,040
Speaker 1: then you start thinking about, Okay, George Kittle is going

2894
02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:56,440
Speaker 1: to be one of those guys that we talk about forever.

2895
02:13:56,520 --> 02:13:58,320
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey is going to be one of those guys

2896
02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:01,200
Speaker 1: that we talk about forever. Right, you go up and

2897
02:14:01,240 --> 02:14:04,200
Speaker 1: down the list. This forty nine ers offense is so

2898
02:14:04,440 --> 02:14:06,360
Speaker 1: stacked with guys that I think are going to be

2899
02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:09,640
Speaker 1: memorable for this generation for what they accomplished. I do

2900
02:14:09,680 --> 02:14:12,240
Speaker 1: think that changes the conversation around all of them, fair

2901
02:14:12,360 --> 02:14:15,040
Speaker 1: or not. It just feels like they're so stacked offensively

2902
02:14:15,080 --> 02:14:16,920
Speaker 1: that it's hard to figure out which one to give

2903
02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:18,640
Speaker 1: the credit to, and how much of the credit goes

2904
02:14:18,680 --> 02:14:21,080
Speaker 1: to them, and how they're defended based on the other people,

2905
02:14:21,120 --> 02:14:22,480
Speaker 1: like all of these things that we think about.

2906
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so typically when that happens, to your point

2907
02:14:25,000 --> 02:14:27,160
Speaker 3: into Lewis, you know, tweeting that out, who gets the

2908
02:14:27,160 --> 02:14:30,840
Speaker 3: credit in situations like that, Generally it's the quarterback. Yeah,

2909
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:33,520
Speaker 3: Usually the quarterback is the one who's throwing the passes

2910
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:35,880
Speaker 3: to all those guys. Because what differentiates San Francisco and

2911
02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:38,000
Speaker 3: someone like Party from someone like Jalen Hurt and say

2912
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:40,800
Speaker 3: aj Brown. J Brown is gobbling up all you know,

2913
02:14:41,000 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 3: the majority of the catches Ceedee Lamb is getting most

2914
02:14:43,240 --> 02:14:46,280
Speaker 3: of the production from Dak Prescott, Party spreading it around.

2915
02:14:46,320 --> 02:14:48,800
Speaker 3: I mean McCaffrey has over a thousand yards rushing, yes,

2916
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:51,680
Speaker 3: but I mean Deebo Samuels has what five hundred and

2917
02:14:51,680 --> 02:14:54,960
Speaker 3: sixty yards receiving, Kittle has almost eight hundred yards receiving.

2918
02:14:55,000 --> 02:14:57,760
Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuka is knocking on the door of one thousand yards.

2919
02:14:57,920 --> 02:15:00,880
Speaker 3: So all these guys are eating and Brock Party is

2920
02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:03,440
Speaker 3: the guy who's kind of the the maestro who's distributing

2921
02:15:03,480 --> 02:15:05,320
Speaker 3: it to all of them. So in a situation where

2922
02:15:05,360 --> 02:15:09,080
Speaker 3: there's multiple players having excellent seasons, usually the nod goes

2923
02:15:09,120 --> 02:15:11,920
Speaker 3: to the quarterback, and even though Christian McCaffrey's having another

2924
02:15:11,960 --> 02:15:15,400
Speaker 3: spectacular all around season, I feel like most voters would

2925
02:15:15,400 --> 02:15:18,000
Speaker 3: put the give the nod to Brock Party for that reason.

2926
02:15:18,080 --> 02:15:20,480
Speaker 4: I definitely agree with Kfe right there. I was also

2927
02:15:20,520 --> 02:15:21,720
Speaker 4: going to just bring that up. I was just trying

2928
02:15:21,760 --> 02:15:24,640
Speaker 4: to find a spot to get in. But no, seriously,

2929
02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:26,960
Speaker 4: when you because I feel like the only reason we're

2930
02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:29,680
Speaker 4: not talking about Brock Party is because of CMC's greatness,

2931
02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:31,960
Speaker 4: But you can't take away I mean, he's accounted for

2932
02:15:32,000 --> 02:15:35,560
Speaker 4: like fifty eight percent of the touchdowns this season, which

2933
02:15:35,720 --> 02:15:38,040
Speaker 4: is way more than I thought, and as well, like

2934
02:15:38,120 --> 02:15:41,320
Speaker 4: you would think, like in like they played a lot

2935
02:15:41,360 --> 02:15:43,760
Speaker 4: more running plays than passing plays, but it's only been

2936
02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:46,440
Speaker 4: forty eight percent passing plays compared to fifty two percent

2937
02:15:46,520 --> 02:15:49,400
Speaker 4: rushing plays. So it really isn't a huge difference in

2938
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:52,200
Speaker 4: regards to CMC really putting the team on his back

2939
02:15:52,240 --> 02:15:53,080
Speaker 4: as well as Brock.

2940
02:15:52,920 --> 02:15:53,960
Speaker 2: Putting the team on his back.

2941
02:15:54,280 --> 02:15:57,200
Speaker 4: And also perty's first in the NFL with nine point

2942
02:15:57,240 --> 02:16:01,880
Speaker 4: six yards per attempt, so it's pretty like easy. I

2943
02:16:01,920 --> 02:16:04,240
Speaker 4: feel like to say brock Purty a little bit more

2944
02:16:04,280 --> 02:16:06,440
Speaker 4: than CMC. I mean, I love CMC, don't get me wrong.

2945
02:16:06,520 --> 02:16:09,680
Speaker 4: Seventeen touchdowns and then he had this crazy stat like

2946
02:16:09,720 --> 02:16:11,960
Speaker 4: even I know we're only talking about this year, but

2947
02:16:12,040 --> 02:16:13,920
Speaker 4: last year he had like so many touchdowns. I think

2948
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Speaker 4: it was like the most back to back games with

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02:16:15,760 --> 02:16:20,400
Speaker 4: a touchdown. But still like brock Purty as kfaxeg, everyone's

2950
02:16:20,440 --> 02:16:22,919
Speaker 4: eating on the Niners, and it's not because of CMC,

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02:16:23,160 --> 02:16:24,120
Speaker 4: it's because of Purdy.

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02:16:24,360 --> 02:16:26,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna ask you a very simple question, though,

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02:16:26,360 --> 02:16:28,560
Speaker 1: I'll ask both of you, all right, and I don't

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02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:30,520
Speaker 1: like to put injury into the ethos, so I'm not

2955
02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:33,280
Speaker 1: even gonna say injury. I'm just gonna say. Let's say

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02:16:33,400 --> 02:16:35,920
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers were looking around before their game,

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02:16:36,320 --> 02:16:38,840
Speaker 1: any game, playoff game, we'll say, and one of the

2958
02:16:38,840 --> 02:16:40,879
Speaker 1: guys got the poops and he wasn't gonna be able

2959
02:16:40,879 --> 02:16:42,560
Speaker 1: to play because you don't tell me issues, right, so

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02:16:42,800 --> 02:16:44,560
Speaker 1: there's nothing he could do, all right, This is an

2961
02:16:44,560 --> 02:16:48,160
Speaker 1: imaginary situation. The forty nine ers had to choose for

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02:16:48,200 --> 02:16:51,039
Speaker 1: that one game, to not have brock Purty or to

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02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:53,480
Speaker 1: not have Christian McCaffrey. Who are they choosing not to

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02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:54,440
Speaker 1: have Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 4: I think just because of the back So think about this,

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02:16:57,240 --> 02:16:59,640
Speaker 4: you have so many offensive weapons. You got Deebo Samuel

2967
02:17:00,480 --> 02:17:02,600
Speaker 4: with your backup at QB, you got Trey Lance.

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02:17:03,520 --> 02:17:06,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna trust Trey Lance or Sam Donald? Sam Donald? Yeah?

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02:17:07,240 --> 02:17:08,959
Speaker 2: So are are you gonna trust Sam Donald?

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Speaker 3: It's like the level and to a certain degree, I

2971
02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:13,160
Speaker 3: see what Shay is saying, because there's a certain level

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02:17:13,200 --> 02:17:16,120
Speaker 3: of drop off from Brock Party to Sam Donald, from

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02:17:16,160 --> 02:17:20,480
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey to say and Elijah mis Mitchell and a

2974
02:17:20,560 --> 02:17:22,440
Speaker 3: scheme that's very heavily run area in it.

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02:17:22,520 --> 02:17:22,680
Speaker 5: Now.

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02:17:22,680 --> 02:17:25,320
Speaker 3: Look, McCaffrey is a matchup nightmare, could do a lot

2977
02:17:25,320 --> 02:17:28,640
Speaker 3: of different things out of the backfield. He's extremely valuable

2978
02:17:28,879 --> 02:17:32,600
Speaker 3: in that role. But I like to think that Brock

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02:17:32,640 --> 02:17:34,800
Speaker 3: Party because of the way that he's mattered at the offense.

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02:17:35,240 --> 02:17:38,200
Speaker 3: You know, it sounds weird to say, but I feel

2981
02:17:38,200 --> 02:17:40,200
Speaker 3: like they'd almost rather for a one game occurrence if

2982
02:17:40,240 --> 02:17:41,920
Speaker 3: they had to be without one of those guys, they'd

2983
02:17:41,920 --> 02:17:45,080
Speaker 3: probably rather have Brock Party and not Sam Donald under center.

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Speaker 1: just like the committee, we came to no consensus on

2991
02:18:05,800 --> 02:18:08,160
Speaker 1: our top four, so we have absolutely failed at the

2992
02:18:08,280 --> 02:18:10,680
Speaker 1: MVP conversation, but we have decided to give it to

2993
02:18:10,720 --> 02:18:13,480
Speaker 1: Tyreek in the meantime. What if I told you facial

2994
02:18:13,520 --> 02:18:17,840
Speaker 1: hair could absolutely change the entire scope and landscape of

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02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:20,000
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball? Hear me out, We'll tell you about

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Speaker 1: it next. This Fellas on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back

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02:18:23,240 --> 02:18:26,440
Speaker 1: in Fox Sports Saturday Live from the ti Raq dot

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Speaker 1: com studios. We are the Fellas. I'm Jason Fitz hanging

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Speaker 1: out with Mighty, Mark Shay and Figgy. What if I

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02:18:34,440 --> 02:18:39,280
Speaker 1: told you the facial hair could absolutely change the entire

3001
02:18:39,400 --> 02:18:44,400
Speaker 1: landscape of Major League Baseball? Cameron Maban tweeted out, this

3002
02:18:44,480 --> 02:18:46,920
Speaker 1: might be an unpopular take to Yankees fans, but you'd

3003
02:18:46,959 --> 02:18:49,120
Speaker 1: be surprised how much more attractive the Yankees would be

3004
02:18:49,160 --> 02:18:51,480
Speaker 1: if they got rid of that facial hair. Real rule.

3005
02:18:51,800 --> 02:18:54,160
Speaker 1: You wouldn't believe how many quality players just think it's

3006
02:18:54,160 --> 02:18:56,000
Speaker 1: a whack rule to have. I mean, come on, we're

3007
02:18:56,040 --> 02:18:58,199
Speaker 1: coming up on twenty twenty four. Let that go already,

3008
02:18:58,240 --> 02:19:00,040
Speaker 1: And I swear it would be more appealing again, and

3009
02:19:00,400 --> 02:19:04,000
Speaker 1: this only comes from conversations I've had an experience from

3010
02:19:04,120 --> 02:19:07,440
Speaker 1: actually playing. I always think it's interesting when you hear

3011
02:19:07,440 --> 02:19:10,320
Speaker 1: from former players like this because it speaks to just

3012
02:19:10,360 --> 02:19:13,120
Speaker 1: sort of the divide. And as much as we laugh

3013
02:19:13,120 --> 02:19:14,920
Speaker 1: about it, look, I don't think show Hay's out here

3014
02:19:14,959 --> 02:19:16,680
Speaker 1: wanting a big old beard, so like, I don't think

3015
02:19:16,720 --> 02:19:19,080
Speaker 1: that's necessarily part of the show Hey conversation we'll get

3016
02:19:19,080 --> 02:19:21,600
Speaker 1: into in a second. But Figgy, I just gotta feel

3017
02:19:21,600 --> 02:19:23,400
Speaker 1: like if you could grow a beard, things would be

3018
02:19:23,520 --> 02:19:25,359
Speaker 1: much easier for the Yankees.

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02:19:25,120 --> 02:19:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

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02:19:25,959 --> 02:19:27,920
Speaker 3: And people have said this throughout the years, and some

3021
02:19:27,959 --> 02:19:29,800
Speaker 3: guys have been willing to sacrifice. One of the more

3022
02:19:29,840 --> 02:19:32,240
Speaker 3: popular ones was Johnny Damon, who looked like a caveman

3023
02:19:32,680 --> 02:19:34,720
Speaker 3: and he left the Red Sox because the Yankees, of

3024
02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:35,480
Speaker 3: you know, gave.

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02:19:35,400 --> 02:19:36,720
Speaker 2: Him an aller he couldn't refuse.

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02:19:37,160 --> 02:19:39,160
Speaker 3: So I mean that works on some guys, but there's

3027
02:19:39,520 --> 02:19:41,680
Speaker 3: have been a lot that I've spoken off the record,

3028
02:19:41,760 --> 02:19:43,960
Speaker 3: I know, specifically to me saying like, yeah, the Yankees

3029
02:19:43,959 --> 02:19:45,840
Speaker 3: are not appealing because they're telling me that I have

3030
02:19:45,840 --> 02:19:48,560
Speaker 3: to change my look. And it's pretty ridiculous, especially in

3031
02:19:48,600 --> 02:19:50,480
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, that we're telling a girl man that

3032
02:19:50,520 --> 02:19:52,320
Speaker 3: he can't growd his hair, Like what are we doing?

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02:19:52,760 --> 02:19:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially given how much the world has changed. I'll

3034
02:19:55,200 --> 02:19:57,119
Speaker 1: never forget when I did first take the first time

3035
02:19:57,160 --> 02:20:00,440
Speaker 1: on ESPN, they wouldn't let me roll myself leaves up.

3036
02:20:00,440 --> 02:20:03,039
Speaker 1: I'd have a suit on to cover my tattoos because

3037
02:20:03,080 --> 02:20:06,560
Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, they weren't comfortable having

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02:20:06,600 --> 02:20:08,800
Speaker 1: tattoos on air. Now you've got you know, guys on

3039
02:20:08,840 --> 02:20:11,000
Speaker 1: air wearing tank tops and show and everything right, So, like,

3040
02:20:11,200 --> 02:20:13,440
Speaker 1: it's just amazing the world has changed, and so I

3041
02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:16,039
Speaker 1: understand why the rule may have been in place, But

3042
02:20:16,120 --> 02:20:18,000
Speaker 1: I also think that you need to look around now

3043
02:20:18,040 --> 02:20:21,040
Speaker 1: and just say, Okay, what does the modern society look

3044
02:20:21,160 --> 02:20:24,680
Speaker 1: like and how do we fit into where players are now?

3045
02:20:24,720 --> 02:20:27,800
Speaker 1: This is a much different era of player empowerment across

3046
02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:30,560
Speaker 1: all of sports than it was thirty or forty years ago.

3047
02:20:30,600 --> 02:20:33,120
Speaker 1: You either adapt or you get left behind show. Hey

3048
02:20:33,160 --> 02:20:37,400
Speaker 1: news obviously dominated the baseball cycle yesterday, but there's a

3049
02:20:37,440 --> 02:20:40,240
Speaker 1: real question that we need to ask about whether or

3050
02:20:40,280 --> 02:20:42,520
Speaker 1: not he should be getting this kind of money. We

3051
02:20:42,560 --> 02:20:44,680
Speaker 1: will do that, but first Figgi hit us with some treading.

3052
02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:45,080
Speaker 1: All right.

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02:20:45,080 --> 02:20:47,400
Speaker 3: Well, the NBA Friday Night, the Clippers won their third

3054
02:20:47,480 --> 02:20:51,120
Speaker 3: consecutive game. They defeated the Jazz in Utah one seventeen

3055
02:20:51,280 --> 02:20:53,600
Speaker 3: to one oh three as Kawhi Lehnert scored a game

3056
02:20:53,680 --> 02:20:57,080
Speaker 3: high forty one points. Sacramento Kings dearon Fox with thirty

3057
02:20:57,120 --> 02:20:59,520
Speaker 3: four points, twenty three of them in the fourth quarter,

3058
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:02,320
Speaker 3: and a victory over Phoenix one fourteen to one oh

3059
02:21:02,400 --> 02:21:05,160
Speaker 3: six the final there as Kevin Durant missed the game

3060
02:21:05,760 --> 02:21:08,880
Speaker 3: for the Phoenix. Suns Houston picking up his first road

3061
02:21:08,959 --> 02:21:11,160
Speaker 3: victory of the season and a victory over Denver one

3062
02:21:11,240 --> 02:21:14,240
Speaker 3: fourteen to one oh six. Sixteen straight losses for the Spurs,

3063
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:16,880
Speaker 3: they failed to the Bowls one twenty one to one twelve.

3064
02:21:16,959 --> 02:21:19,840
Speaker 3: You had victories for the Thunder seventy six Ers, Celtics

3065
02:21:20,160 --> 02:21:24,119
Speaker 3: and the Timberwolves. In NFL news, Seahawks quarterback Gino Smith

3066
02:21:24,160 --> 02:21:26,160
Speaker 3: will be a game time decision for their matchup against

3067
02:21:26,160 --> 02:21:28,640
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers after he suffered a growing injury

3068
02:21:28,680 --> 02:21:31,800
Speaker 3: in practice on Thursday. Chiefs running back Isaiah Pacheco has

3069
02:21:31,800 --> 02:21:33,879
Speaker 3: been ruled out of Sunday's game against Buffalo with a

3070
02:21:33,879 --> 02:21:37,039
Speaker 3: shoulder injury. Trevor Lawrence to the Jaguars questionable, likely a

3071
02:21:37,040 --> 02:21:40,160
Speaker 3: game time decision for Sunday's matchup against Cleveland as he

3072
02:21:40,200 --> 02:21:42,199
Speaker 3: continues to nurse an ankle injury.

3073
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Speaker 1: Back to the Fellas, all right, so show hey, O

3074
02:21:46,480 --> 02:21:49,320
Speaker 1: TOADI wildly in the news. Obviously, we all were sitting

3075
02:21:49,320 --> 02:21:53,280
Speaker 1: there looking at tweets about flights. Where is he gonna be,

3076
02:21:53,360 --> 02:21:55,760
Speaker 1: what's he gonna look like? What's next for show hey?

3077
02:21:56,400 --> 02:21:58,440
Speaker 1: And the question is, as you look at the money

3078
02:21:58,480 --> 02:22:00,720
Speaker 1: that he's going to get, it's anti abit. He will

3079
02:22:00,720 --> 02:22:04,360
Speaker 1: get the largest contract in North American sports history. Is

3080
02:22:04,400 --> 02:22:07,160
Speaker 1: the money worth it? And there's one real angle that

3081
02:22:07,240 --> 02:22:09,560
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Speaker 1: Injuries should be at least part of this conversation, right,

3087
02:22:24,680 --> 02:22:27,280
Speaker 1: Like we talk about the greatness of what Shohey has done,

3088
02:22:27,320 --> 02:22:29,520
Speaker 1: and I think we have to acknowledge that anytime you

3089
02:22:29,600 --> 02:22:32,440
Speaker 1: hit free agency, anytime you are looking at a new contract,

3090
02:22:32,800 --> 02:22:35,320
Speaker 1: in most business like this, you are not paid for

3091
02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:37,560
Speaker 1: what you have done. You are paid for what you

3092
02:22:37,600 --> 02:22:41,040
Speaker 1: are expected to do moving forward. Contracts that are a

3093
02:22:41,080 --> 02:22:44,960
Speaker 1: reward for prior greatness never seem to really work out.

3094
02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:47,520
Speaker 1: And what you have to ask yourself in a vacuum

3095
02:22:47,600 --> 02:22:51,480
Speaker 1: at least is do we believe that moving forward we

3096
02:22:51,560 --> 02:22:54,120
Speaker 1: will make money off of this deal, that this deal

3097
02:22:54,360 --> 02:22:56,520
Speaker 1: will make our team better moving forward, that for the

3098
02:22:56,560 --> 02:22:59,480
Speaker 1: next five years everything will matter. The very same things

3099
02:22:59,480 --> 02:23:02,000
Speaker 1: I say about Belichick all the time. We can, on

3100
02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:04,599
Speaker 1: one hand acknowledge the greatness of what he has accomplished,

3101
02:23:04,720 --> 02:23:06,840
Speaker 1: and then on the other hand acknowledge where they are

3102
02:23:06,840 --> 02:23:09,000
Speaker 1: now and what that means moving forward for the Patriots.

3103
02:23:09,080 --> 02:23:10,760
Speaker 1: You have to say the same thing about show Hey,

3104
02:23:10,840 --> 02:23:14,160
Speaker 1: because if the money is going to be iconic, Oh

3105
02:23:14,200 --> 02:23:17,000
Speaker 1: my god, I cannot believe this money, then it is

3106
02:23:17,080 --> 02:23:19,440
Speaker 1: also fair to say are you paying for what has

3107
02:23:19,520 --> 02:23:22,200
Speaker 1: happened in the past, which is a player that is

3108
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:25,120
Speaker 1: the modern babe ruth. Are you paying for what you

3109
02:23:25,160 --> 02:23:28,000
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get moving forward? And figgi, I think

3110
02:23:28,000 --> 02:23:31,360
Speaker 1: that's a tough argument. There is a point here. If

3111
02:23:31,400 --> 02:23:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking around and you came to me as an owner,

3112
02:23:34,320 --> 02:23:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you what are we paying for? Are

3113
02:23:36,360 --> 02:23:38,760
Speaker 1: we paying for a hitter, a pitcher? Are we paying

3114
02:23:38,800 --> 02:23:39,160
Speaker 1: for poll?

3115
02:23:40,280 --> 02:23:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that's the difficult part, and that's why there

3116
02:23:42,680 --> 02:23:45,280
Speaker 3: are some rumors that he shoe Otani, might even sign

3117
02:23:45,360 --> 02:23:47,440
Speaker 3: a short term deal with maybe an opt out after

3118
02:23:47,440 --> 02:23:49,720
Speaker 3: the second or third year so he can get himself

3119
02:23:49,760 --> 02:23:52,240
Speaker 3: back out on the market and market himself as a pitcher,

3120
02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:54,840
Speaker 3: because we just don't know, like as at this point

3121
02:23:54,840 --> 02:23:56,720
Speaker 3: in time, a guy's coming off of a second Tommy

3122
02:23:56,760 --> 02:23:59,720
Speaker 3: John surgery. There have been some success stories off of that,

3123
02:23:59,800 --> 02:24:03,440
Speaker 3: but certainly not a whole lot. But look, even as

3124
02:24:03,440 --> 02:24:06,360
Speaker 3: a hitter, I mean, the guy is absolutely amazing with

3125
02:24:06,440 --> 02:24:08,400
Speaker 3: forty four home runs last year. All of his numbers

3126
02:24:08,400 --> 02:24:10,760
Speaker 3: were totally off the charts. But you're volume him a

3127
02:24:10,760 --> 02:24:12,440
Speaker 3: little bit differently if he's only going to be a

3128
02:24:12,480 --> 02:24:14,720
Speaker 3: hitter versus going to be a hitter and a pitcher

3129
02:24:14,760 --> 02:24:16,840
Speaker 3: at the same time. So yeah, it is a very

3130
02:24:16,879 --> 02:24:19,880
Speaker 3: important question to ask. And the problem is, I do

3131
02:24:19,920 --> 02:24:22,440
Speaker 3: think that whether it's the Blue Jays, the Dodgers, the Angels,

3132
02:24:22,440 --> 02:24:24,640
Speaker 3: all the teams that are rumored to still be in

3133
02:24:24,680 --> 02:24:26,920
Speaker 3: the mix for this, you wonder if they don't even care,

3134
02:24:27,280 --> 02:24:29,720
Speaker 3: because again you talk about is it gonna pay dividends?

3135
02:24:30,160 --> 02:24:32,600
Speaker 3: You're asking if it's gonna pay dividends on the baseball field.

3136
02:24:32,640 --> 02:24:35,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, business wise, it will pay dividends for

3137
02:24:35,480 --> 02:24:38,880
Speaker 3: whoever signs them. And I think, and to a certain degree,

3138
02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:41,959
Speaker 3: Jason like this is that's as important as whatever he

3139
02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:43,119
Speaker 3: brings to them on the field.

3140
02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:49,039
Speaker 1: You know, you're right. There's just no way to jump

3141
02:24:49,080 --> 02:24:51,800
Speaker 1: around that. You're right. Like when you talk about what

3142
02:24:51,879 --> 02:24:55,400
Speaker 1: matters to ownership, you got to ask, Okay, hey, yeah,

3143
02:24:55,640 --> 02:24:59,000
Speaker 1: imagine this is scenario. You and I Figgy and I

3144
02:24:59,040 --> 02:25:01,080
Speaker 1: walk up to Shape you are now the team owner,

3145
02:25:01,480 --> 02:25:03,640
Speaker 1: and I'll walk up to Shane and I say, hey,

3146
02:25:03,879 --> 02:25:06,400
Speaker 1: we we got this idea, you know, like like the

3147
02:25:06,440 --> 02:25:08,280
Speaker 1: movie Elf when they're trying to figure out the next

3148
02:25:08,280 --> 02:25:10,400
Speaker 1: big book and the ideas they bring in another writer,

3149
02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:13,039
Speaker 1: like we got this idea. All right, I'm really stoked

3150
02:25:13,040 --> 02:25:15,520
Speaker 1: about it. But Here's the thing. What we need Shae

3151
02:25:15,760 --> 02:25:18,039
Speaker 1: is we need you to open up your pocketbook and

3152
02:25:18,080 --> 02:25:20,480
Speaker 1: we need you to write a check for show. Hey

3153
02:25:20,480 --> 02:25:23,680
Speaker 1: o Toani, I don't know, Shane. You tell me as

3154
02:25:23,720 --> 02:25:27,320
Speaker 1: an owner, is your first thought, oh man, are we

3155
02:25:27,360 --> 02:25:30,039
Speaker 1: gonna win? Or is your first thought? Are we going

3156
02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:31,400
Speaker 1: to make money back on this deal?

3157
02:25:32,720 --> 02:25:34,480
Speaker 4: I think it's are we going to make money back

3158
02:25:34,480 --> 02:25:37,120
Speaker 4: on this deal? And I'm pretty sure most people would

3159
02:25:37,160 --> 02:25:39,880
Speaker 4: think that. I mean maybe if you're a massive fan,

3160
02:25:40,000 --> 02:25:41,720
Speaker 4: yeah you care about winning, But I mean this is

3161
02:25:41,720 --> 02:25:43,760
Speaker 4: all about money, and it's always been about money. I mean,

3162
02:25:43,800 --> 02:25:46,000
Speaker 4: this is a business when it really comes down to it. Yeah,

3163
02:25:46,040 --> 02:25:48,400
Speaker 4: we love it and we make it more than it is.

3164
02:25:48,480 --> 02:25:50,320
Speaker 4: But this has always been a business, and it's all

3165
02:25:50,320 --> 02:25:52,200
Speaker 4: about making money at the end of the day. That's

3166
02:25:52,200 --> 02:25:54,440
Speaker 4: why coaches get fired, that's why players get let go,

3167
02:25:54,680 --> 02:25:56,520
Speaker 4: and that's why people are paying so much money for this.

3168
02:25:56,920 --> 02:25:59,640
Speaker 4: The only issue with this I see really is I

3169
02:25:59,640 --> 02:26:04,520
Speaker 4: don't think there's ever been a player that basically missed

3170
02:26:04,560 --> 02:26:08,480
Speaker 4: that much time with that much injury, Like like Rinaldo

3171
02:26:09,080 --> 02:26:11,520
Speaker 4: wouldn't get that much money if he got that kind

3172
02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:13,440
Speaker 4: of surgery MESSI wouldn't get that much money if he

3173
02:26:13,480 --> 02:26:15,840
Speaker 4: got that injury. Lebron wouldn't get that much money if

3174
02:26:15,879 --> 02:26:18,560
Speaker 4: he literally had that injury. Like, it doesn't make sense

3175
02:26:18,600 --> 02:26:20,039
Speaker 4: to me. I don't think there's ever been a player

3176
02:26:20,080 --> 02:26:23,560
Speaker 4: in the history of sports that had literally one of

3177
02:26:23,560 --> 02:26:26,960
Speaker 4: these same injuries, not even the season, Like he literally

3178
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:30,480
Speaker 4: sat out last season at the end. It's not even

3179
02:26:30,520 --> 02:26:32,360
Speaker 4: been like two or three months, and he's about to

3180
02:26:32,360 --> 02:26:34,960
Speaker 4: get a five hundred to seven hundred million dollar deal

3181
02:26:35,160 --> 02:26:38,520
Speaker 4: and break records. I mean, like, dude, Tiger Woods, won't

3182
02:26:38,520 --> 02:26:40,000
Speaker 4: he Like the only reason he's doing that is because

3183
02:26:40,000 --> 02:26:42,080
Speaker 4: of his name, And I think that's something I can

3184
02:26:42,160 --> 02:26:45,400
Speaker 4: kind of compare it to show, hey, like a Tiger situation.

3185
02:26:45,840 --> 02:26:49,160
Speaker 4: But even then, it's like he's he's young, like we

3186
02:26:49,200 --> 02:26:50,840
Speaker 4: need to get some output out of him, and there

3187
02:26:50,840 --> 02:26:53,800
Speaker 4: has been no output. I mean, yeah, he's a great player,

3188
02:26:53,879 --> 02:26:56,520
Speaker 4: but he hasn't won anything. And you saw that with

3189
02:26:56,600 --> 02:26:58,520
Speaker 4: Trout he was a great player and he didn't win anything.

3190
02:26:58,560 --> 02:27:01,680
Speaker 4: So this guy's also injured. So it's it's kind of

3191
02:27:01,720 --> 02:27:03,440
Speaker 4: wild to me, Like I can't believe it.

3192
02:27:03,560 --> 02:27:05,680
Speaker 3: He's gonna be able to hit though, So now that yeah,

3193
02:27:05,760 --> 02:27:07,840
Speaker 3: the Tommy John surgery and didn't pitch at all in

3194
02:27:07,879 --> 02:27:10,320
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen and had a pretty good offensive year despite

3195
02:27:10,360 --> 02:27:11,400
Speaker 3: the fact that he couldn't pitch.

3196
02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:13,720
Speaker 2: So you're paying for that too, No, one hundred percent.

3197
02:27:13,720 --> 02:27:15,360
Speaker 4: And then like you can't compare it to other sports

3198
02:27:15,360 --> 02:27:17,800
Speaker 4: because yes he can bat and that, like I can't

3199
02:27:17,800 --> 02:27:20,400
Speaker 4: compare him to Ronaldo there, but you're paying for fifty

3200
02:27:20,440 --> 02:27:22,800
Speaker 4: percent of him, so you should give fifty percent of him,

3201
02:27:22,840 --> 02:27:24,720
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, is he worth one

3202
02:27:24,760 --> 02:27:26,280
Speaker 4: point four billion dollars?

3203
02:27:26,400 --> 02:27:26,560
Speaker 2: No?

3204
02:27:27,160 --> 02:27:33,800
Speaker 1: So well, but yeah, you're right in theory. But here's

3205
02:27:33,800 --> 02:27:38,760
Speaker 1: the real question. What's the cost of relevance? Like when

3206
02:27:38,760 --> 02:27:41,199
Speaker 1: we look at the NBA, I say this all the time,

3207
02:27:41,240 --> 02:27:44,439
Speaker 1: you got max value players that really aren't worth max contracts.

3208
02:27:44,520 --> 02:27:45,920
Speaker 1: You see it all the time, and you're saying, man,

3209
02:27:45,920 --> 02:27:48,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay him that. But the question is, all right,

3210
02:27:48,959 --> 02:27:52,119
Speaker 1: it's that or become irrelevant. And that was a question

3211
02:27:52,480 --> 02:27:54,959
Speaker 1: all the way back when all the stars were leaving OKAC.

3212
02:27:55,120 --> 02:27:57,200
Speaker 1: One of the questions I asked an NBA insider at

3213
02:27:57,240 --> 02:28:00,280
Speaker 1: the time is what's the cost of relevance? At what

3214
02:28:00,360 --> 02:28:02,440
Speaker 1: point do you look around and say, hey, I don't

3215
02:28:02,480 --> 02:28:04,640
Speaker 1: care how much I have to spend and I really

3216
02:28:04,680 --> 02:28:07,320
Speaker 1: don't care if we win games. I just want people

3217
02:28:07,360 --> 02:28:09,360
Speaker 1: to know that we have a team. I want people

3218
02:28:09,440 --> 02:28:12,160
Speaker 1: to buy this stuff. I want people to watch the highlights.

3219
02:28:12,200 --> 02:28:14,039
Speaker 1: I want people to consume what we're doing. I want

3220
02:28:14,040 --> 02:28:16,879
Speaker 1: people to fill the stadium and buy the overpriced beers

3221
02:28:16,879 --> 02:28:19,080
Speaker 1: and hot dogs. I want people to buy the jerseys.

3222
02:28:19,200 --> 02:28:21,240
Speaker 1: I want people to understand the brand. I want the

3223
02:28:21,280 --> 02:28:24,320
Speaker 1: brand to make money. And one of the toughest things

3224
02:28:24,320 --> 02:28:27,080
Speaker 1: about sports ownership is that you own a team that's

3225
02:28:27,080 --> 02:28:31,080
Speaker 1: supposed to win championships. But also it's business. It's how

3226
02:28:31,080 --> 02:28:33,720
Speaker 1: you make money. And the more we talk about show

3227
02:28:33,720 --> 02:28:36,560
Speaker 1: hey guys, the more I keep thinking about for whoever

3228
02:28:36,680 --> 02:28:39,920
Speaker 1: ends up signing him, this isn't necessarily about oh, I mean,

3229
02:28:39,959 --> 02:28:41,880
Speaker 1: they're going to couch. It is this helps us win

3230
02:28:41,920 --> 02:28:45,039
Speaker 1: the world. Here, sure, cool, cute, that's fun. That's a beautiful,

3231
02:28:45,080 --> 02:28:48,920
Speaker 1: beautiful sentiment. Let's go there. But realistically, like, figure, you've

3232
02:28:49,000 --> 02:28:51,080
Speaker 1: made this clear, and I think you're right. This is

3233
02:28:51,120 --> 02:28:54,280
Speaker 1: a return on investment, is cost of relevance. And so

3234
02:28:54,360 --> 02:28:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at it and say, Okay, if he

3235
02:28:56,720 --> 02:28:59,680
Speaker 1: costs me a billion dollars, can I make one point

3236
02:28:59,680 --> 02:29:02,000
Speaker 1: five If he costs me one point five? Can I

3237
02:29:02,040 --> 02:29:04,440
Speaker 1: make three? Can I make enough off of this deal

3238
02:29:04,680 --> 02:29:08,040
Speaker 1: that my brand grows, that my valuation for my franchise grows,

3239
02:29:08,040 --> 02:29:10,160
Speaker 1: that I make more money Like that at the end

3240
02:29:10,240 --> 02:29:11,959
Speaker 1: of the day, is a huge part of what this

3241
02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:14,200
Speaker 1: conversation is for whoever writes a check, yep.

3242
02:29:14,240 --> 02:29:16,240
Speaker 3: And if the result of that is you can't spend

3243
02:29:16,240 --> 02:29:18,800
Speaker 3: as much money on other players, and you're gonna be

3244
02:29:18,920 --> 02:29:23,920
Speaker 3: mired in mediocrity, so be it as hurting degree. And

3245
02:29:23,959 --> 02:29:25,920
Speaker 3: you know, the fans know there's gonna be the initial

3246
02:29:26,000 --> 02:29:28,640
Speaker 3: shine and everything's gonna be exciting and great. Look I

3247
02:29:28,680 --> 02:29:30,840
Speaker 3: saw this with the Angels first hand. Out of the

3248
02:29:30,840 --> 02:29:32,720
Speaker 3: first three or four years, it's incredible. Then after a

3249
02:29:32,760 --> 02:29:34,320
Speaker 3: while it's like, well, yeah, well we'll go to the

3250
02:29:34,320 --> 02:29:35,920
Speaker 3: park to watch this guy play. What the rest of

3251
02:29:35,920 --> 02:29:37,840
Speaker 3: the team is trash? But what difference does a maker

3252
02:29:37,959 --> 02:29:40,320
Speaker 3: watching a great player do his thing and the owners

3253
02:29:40,320 --> 02:29:42,480
Speaker 3: are making their money. Yeah, they say they want to win,

3254
02:29:42,480 --> 02:29:45,160
Speaker 3: and I'm sure they're gonna try to put a competitive

3255
02:29:45,160 --> 02:29:47,360
Speaker 3: team on the field as much as they possibly can,

3256
02:29:47,800 --> 02:29:50,400
Speaker 3: but ultimately it's all about, you know, cashing the checks

3257
02:29:50,520 --> 02:29:52,640
Speaker 3: and making sure they turn a profit on this thing,

3258
02:29:53,160 --> 02:29:56,280
Speaker 3: and so especially for a franchise like Toronto. Look, and

3259
02:29:56,320 --> 02:29:58,240
Speaker 3: Toronto has to spend them I saying that they're cheap

3260
02:29:58,280 --> 02:30:01,040
Speaker 3: by any stretch. And Rogers basically holds the entire continent,

3261
02:30:01,320 --> 02:30:03,960
Speaker 3: you know, or at least that our country of Canada,

3262
02:30:04,080 --> 02:30:05,560
Speaker 3: so they had they print money up there. I'm not

3263
02:30:05,600 --> 02:30:08,160
Speaker 3: saying they wouldn't invest. And obviously the Dodgers invest. They've

3264
02:30:08,160 --> 02:30:10,400
Speaker 3: been one of the most sexful franchises in baseball since

3265
02:30:10,400 --> 02:30:13,400
Speaker 3: the Googen Hind partners bought them years ago. But yeah,

3266
02:30:13,560 --> 02:30:16,080
Speaker 3: I can't sit here and act like competing on the

3267
02:30:16,080 --> 02:30:18,640
Speaker 3: baseball field is chief among the reasons why you would

3268
02:30:18,640 --> 02:30:22,039
Speaker 3: sign them, as weird as it might stout sound, and

3269
02:30:22,280 --> 02:30:24,800
Speaker 3: us talking sports talk radio and talking about competing and

3270
02:30:24,840 --> 02:30:27,680
Speaker 3: winning to win, I just don't believe when you're talking

3271
02:30:27,760 --> 02:30:30,600
Speaker 3: about a deal of this magnitude with an international superstar,

3272
02:30:31,040 --> 02:30:33,240
Speaker 3: that winning on the field is the most important factor.

3273
02:30:33,280 --> 02:30:34,480
Speaker 2: I really don't think that's the case.

3274
02:30:34,879 --> 02:30:37,400
Speaker 1: Well, I love your point about going to the game

3275
02:30:37,800 --> 02:30:40,400
Speaker 1: because we all know, oh man, this team's better than

3276
02:30:40,400 --> 02:30:42,119
Speaker 1: we thought. Don't know any of the stars, but yeah,

3277
02:30:42,200 --> 02:30:44,800
Speaker 1: let's go to the Okay, that happens sometimes, and then

3278
02:30:44,800 --> 02:30:46,400
Speaker 1: when you're on the Road, it's like, Oh, this team's

3279
02:30:46,440 --> 02:30:48,400
Speaker 1: better than we thought and they're in town. We should go.

3280
02:30:48,520 --> 02:30:50,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure that happens sometimes. Hey, you want to

3281
02:30:51,000 --> 02:30:53,360
Speaker 1: go see show Hey, that happens all the time. Yep, Oh,

3282
02:30:53,480 --> 02:30:55,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where that game is. Hey, show Hayes

3283
02:30:55,760 --> 02:30:58,320
Speaker 1: in town. Like, I'm not gonna drive up to Fenway

3284
02:30:58,400 --> 02:31:00,720
Speaker 1: to just see a plucky team that I didn't didn't

3285
02:31:00,760 --> 02:31:02,280
Speaker 1: know what was gonna be this good. But if you

3286
02:31:02,360 --> 02:31:06,039
Speaker 1: tell me Show he's taken on the Red Sox, I'm

3287
02:31:06,040 --> 02:31:07,879
Speaker 1: gonna hop in the car with my buddies. We're gonna go,

3288
02:31:07,879 --> 02:31:10,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna have the drinks, we're gonna go see the experience.

3289
02:31:10,080 --> 02:31:12,840
Speaker 1: So the more we think about show Hey, I think,

3290
02:31:12,879 --> 02:31:15,680
Speaker 1: the more we have to couch this conversation about what

3291
02:31:15,800 --> 02:31:19,520
Speaker 1: it's really about. It's not about winning the World Series.

3292
02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:22,240
Speaker 1: It's about winning the bank account. And at the end

3293
02:31:22,280 --> 02:31:24,840
Speaker 1: of the day, most of us are fans because we

3294
02:31:24,879 --> 02:31:27,520
Speaker 1: are fanatical about a brand of a sport that we love.

3295
02:31:27,680 --> 02:31:30,880
Speaker 1: But most owners are owners because they're rich and they

3296
02:31:30,959 --> 02:31:33,400
Speaker 1: understand how to make money in the business that they have.

3297
02:31:33,680 --> 02:31:35,360
Speaker 1: You're always rich if you hang out with us after

3298
02:31:35,360 --> 02:31:37,080
Speaker 1: the show. By the way, our podcast goes up. If

3299
02:31:37,120 --> 02:31:39,240
Speaker 1: you missed any of today's show, you can check out

3300
02:31:39,240 --> 02:31:41,720
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3301
02:31:41,760 --> 02:31:44,240
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3302
02:31:44,360 --> 02:31:48,120
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3303
02:31:48,160 --> 02:31:50,800
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3304
02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:53,040
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3305
02:31:53,400 --> 02:31:55,560
Speaker 1: in crime, so it's a twenty four to seven work guy,

3306
02:31:55,560 --> 02:31:58,320
Speaker 1: making sure the Fellas get to everybody as soon as

3307
02:31:58,320 --> 02:32:01,480
Speaker 1: possible immediately after all right, coming up next on the Fellas,

3308
02:32:01,480 --> 02:32:03,760
Speaker 1: as much as we have been talking about everything else,

3309
02:32:03,800 --> 02:32:07,959
Speaker 1: there is one matchup. There's absolutely one must see matchup

3310
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:10,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL this weekend, and it is not the

3311
02:32:10,240 --> 02:32:11,960
Speaker 1: game you think. We'll tell you about it next on

3312
02:32:12,000 --> 02:32:15,120
Speaker 1: the Fellas, I'm Fox Sports Radio, So Fellas, I'm Fox

3313
02:32:15,120 --> 02:32:18,760
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Live from the ti rack dot Com studios.

3314
02:32:18,879 --> 02:32:21,360
Speaker 1: I just you know, I gotta let the Christmas music

3315
02:32:21,400 --> 02:32:23,520
Speaker 1: breathe a little bit, y'all, Like it's just it feels good.

3316
02:32:23,600 --> 02:32:26,520
Speaker 1: Like I am that guy. I'm Jason Fitz hanging out.

3317
02:32:26,680 --> 02:32:29,680
Speaker 1: The Fella's a figgy Shay Mighty Mark causing getting a

3318
02:32:29,720 --> 02:32:32,800
Speaker 1: much deserved day off today. I'm gonna be honest, with you,

3319
02:32:33,040 --> 02:32:35,720
Speaker 1: Like Shay, just just being real. I like going to

3320
02:32:35,760 --> 02:32:37,720
Speaker 1: the mall even when I don't need anything in Christmas time,

3321
02:32:37,760 --> 02:32:39,920
Speaker 1: just to hear the Christmas me. I'm just just being honest,

3322
02:32:39,959 --> 02:32:42,840
Speaker 1: Like I just like being around the chaos. Everybody's shopping

3323
02:32:42,879 --> 02:32:45,200
Speaker 1: and wearing their ugly sweaters and like I got my

3324
02:32:45,240 --> 02:32:47,480
Speaker 1: Grinch rebox on and I'm just walking around for no

3325
02:32:47,520 --> 02:32:49,879
Speaker 1: good reason, don't need anything. It's just like I waved

3326
02:32:49,879 --> 02:32:52,240
Speaker 1: at Santa yesterday at the mall. I was like, ah,

3327
02:32:52,440 --> 02:32:54,440
Speaker 1: feeling good, Like there's part of it, like you just

3328
02:32:54,440 --> 02:32:56,360
Speaker 1: give me that Christmas music and suddenly I want to

3329
02:32:56,360 --> 02:32:58,160
Speaker 1: be in Target for twenty minutes for no good reason.

3330
02:32:58,200 --> 02:33:00,520
Speaker 4: Oh, I completely agree, Are you kidding me? Like we

3331
02:33:00,560 --> 02:33:02,640
Speaker 4: got this place called the Comments near me, and it's

3332
02:33:02,720 --> 02:33:04,560
Speaker 4: kind of like where I grew up. It was like

3333
02:33:04,879 --> 02:33:07,720
Speaker 4: the place to go on Friday nights and it usually

3334
02:33:07,800 --> 02:33:10,560
Speaker 4: plays Frank Sinatra in these like in their audio, like

3335
02:33:10,560 --> 02:33:13,240
Speaker 4: while you're walking around. But when Christmas time came along,

3336
02:33:13,240 --> 02:33:15,920
Speaker 4: they'd start playing Christmas music and they had this huge

3337
02:33:16,040 --> 02:33:18,240
Speaker 4: tree that they would put up. So as a kid,

3338
02:33:18,280 --> 02:33:21,160
Speaker 4: I used to love going there all the time during Christmas,

3339
02:33:21,200 --> 02:33:23,680
Speaker 4: just because of the vibes the music, and I think

3340
02:33:23,720 --> 02:33:26,560
Speaker 4: ever since then and because of that, I am so

3341
02:33:26,760 --> 02:33:30,560
Speaker 4: okay with Christmas coming in October, like right after Halloween.

3342
02:33:30,680 --> 02:33:32,879
Speaker 4: Like I'm completely fine with it. Like I bought my

3343
02:33:32,959 --> 02:33:36,480
Speaker 4: Christmas tree the day after Thanksgiving, like I was ready

3344
02:33:36,480 --> 02:33:38,240
Speaker 4: to go. I was very happy for it. Me and

3345
02:33:38,320 --> 02:33:40,440
Speaker 4: my mom still haven't decorated it, but it is sitting

3346
02:33:40,480 --> 02:33:41,240
Speaker 4: in our living room.

3347
02:33:41,520 --> 02:33:44,680
Speaker 3: Do not worry, no, go ahead an say the wife

3348
02:33:44,680 --> 02:33:47,160
Speaker 3: and I are right there with you. The day after Christmas.

3349
02:33:47,200 --> 02:33:48,640
Speaker 3: By the way, we got our tree and it's set

3350
02:33:48,680 --> 02:33:49,920
Speaker 3: up in the room. We haven't had a chance to

3351
02:33:49,959 --> 02:33:53,960
Speaker 3: decorate it yet. I'm all for even Thanksgiving Day. But

3352
02:33:54,080 --> 02:33:57,520
Speaker 3: November one, Halloween. That problem I happens when you're walking

3353
02:33:57,520 --> 02:33:59,840
Speaker 3: around a store and it's October twenty second, there's a

3354
02:33:59,879 --> 02:34:02,360
Speaker 3: like nine Christmas issles already set up. I was like, can,

3355
02:34:02,600 --> 02:34:04,840
Speaker 3: I mean, fits you love Halloween? Can we let Halloween

3356
02:34:04,879 --> 02:34:05,760
Speaker 3: breathe for a second.

3357
02:34:05,920 --> 02:34:06,879
Speaker 2: That's the problem that I have.

3358
02:34:07,400 --> 02:34:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of like wake up the day

3359
02:34:09,480 --> 02:34:12,160
Speaker 1: after like November first, I should walk into the stores

3360
02:34:12,240 --> 02:34:15,280
Speaker 1: and everybody overnight reset everything, And it's like and put

3361
02:34:15,280 --> 02:34:18,280
Speaker 1: me straight into Christmas then, and like like I've always said,

3362
02:34:18,320 --> 02:34:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, you hang out, you have some drinks, you

3363
02:34:19,840 --> 02:34:21,959
Speaker 1: watch them games, you talk to you your buddies. That's

3364
02:34:21,959 --> 02:34:23,720
Speaker 1: what you do at halftime of a football game. Well

3365
02:34:23,720 --> 02:34:26,360
Speaker 1: that's what you do on Thanksgiving, So Thanksgivings halftime on Christmas,

3366
02:34:26,360 --> 02:34:28,160
Speaker 1: like you can take those two three days off for

3367
02:34:28,200 --> 02:34:30,280
Speaker 1: the weekend and then you get right back into it.

3368
02:34:30,440 --> 02:34:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm all in. But you mentioned Sinatra. Believe me, We'll

3369
02:34:33,720 --> 02:34:35,680
Speaker 1: get to football in a second. But you mentioned Sinatra.

3370
02:34:35,720 --> 02:34:39,879
Speaker 1: She like there is nothing just more christmas y but

3371
02:34:39,959 --> 02:34:43,640
Speaker 1: also just classy, like bougie that I love. Like I'm

3372
02:34:43,680 --> 02:34:46,000
Speaker 1: not a boogie guy, but I'm telling you, Christmas time,

3373
02:34:46,240 --> 02:34:48,280
Speaker 1: you just you turn all the lights down, so all

3374
02:34:48,280 --> 02:34:50,160
Speaker 1: you have is the glow of the Christmas lights on,

3375
02:34:50,200 --> 02:34:52,560
Speaker 1: all the decorations and everything. The lights are dim in

3376
02:34:52,600 --> 02:34:54,640
Speaker 1: the whole house. You get to you get to record

3377
02:34:54,680 --> 02:34:57,240
Speaker 1: player and you just put on like Sinatra, Christmas, any

3378
02:34:57,280 --> 02:34:59,400
Speaker 1: of it. You know you got that. I've got the

3379
02:34:59,400 --> 02:35:01,760
Speaker 1: record player. It then goes to the Spotify or goes

3380
02:35:01,800 --> 02:35:03,800
Speaker 1: to the sons in the house, so like all the

3381
02:35:03,840 --> 02:35:07,240
Speaker 1: speakers have that like crispy recordy sound. Pour yourself with

3382
02:35:07,320 --> 02:35:09,280
Speaker 1: glass of whiskey and you just sit down and like

3383
02:35:09,320 --> 02:35:12,600
Speaker 1: in a dimly lit room, you just appreciate some Christmas.

3384
02:35:12,600 --> 02:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Like you said Sinatra, I get all my Christmas feels

3385
02:35:15,000 --> 02:35:17,279
Speaker 1: from like one hundred Anatra Christmas on vinyl.

3386
02:35:17,360 --> 02:35:19,560
Speaker 4: Oh you just said whiskey. Have you ever had whiskey

3387
02:35:19,560 --> 02:35:21,040
Speaker 4: with egnog or bourbon with egnog?

3388
02:35:21,480 --> 02:35:21,680
Speaker 1: No?

3389
02:35:21,959 --> 02:35:24,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a new one.

3390
02:35:24,360 --> 02:35:25,520
Speaker 1: What guys? No?

3391
02:35:26,160 --> 02:35:27,760
Speaker 2: Never had it? Oh my god.

3392
02:35:27,840 --> 02:35:30,400
Speaker 3: Not a huge eggnog. Guy has to be made just

3393
02:35:30,520 --> 02:35:31,959
Speaker 3: right for me to actually imbibe.

3394
02:35:32,360 --> 02:35:34,280
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I only have it when I go

3395
02:35:34,360 --> 02:35:37,160
Speaker 4: like snowboarding, or like when I go for Christmas time.

3396
02:35:37,320 --> 02:35:40,120
Speaker 4: That's a big time Christmas drink, whiskey and eggnog. It's

3397
02:35:40,120 --> 02:35:42,840
Speaker 4: like the only time I'll have it. Also, like like

3398
02:35:42,879 --> 02:35:45,400
Speaker 4: an alcoholic mocha, like like a hot chocolate.

3399
02:35:45,760 --> 02:35:46,600
Speaker 2: Have you guys ever had that?

3400
02:35:46,879 --> 02:35:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

3401
02:35:47,120 --> 02:35:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh sure absolutely.

3402
02:35:48,440 --> 02:35:50,520
Speaker 4: I mean I usually call it a mammoth mocha because

3403
02:35:50,560 --> 02:35:51,959
Speaker 4: I only have it when I go up to Mammoth.

3404
02:35:52,400 --> 02:35:54,280
Speaker 2: But oh my goodness, the.

3405
02:35:54,320 --> 02:35:56,760
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, so mammoth mocha only because you go

3406
02:35:56,920 --> 02:35:58,920
Speaker 1: like I would have thought it was just a particularly

3407
02:35:59,000 --> 02:36:00,480
Speaker 1: large mocha. My man.

3408
02:36:01,959 --> 02:36:04,840
Speaker 4: No, So there's this, there's this mountain in California. It's

3409
02:36:04,840 --> 02:36:08,520
Speaker 4: a it's a pretty big ski location and snowboard location.

3410
02:36:08,680 --> 02:36:11,240
Speaker 4: It's called Mammoth Mountain. And on the mountain they have

3411
02:36:11,360 --> 02:36:13,120
Speaker 4: like the lodges, and in the lodges they have pretty

3412
02:36:13,120 --> 02:36:15,520
Speaker 4: big bars. And at these bars, it's like a twenty

3413
02:36:15,560 --> 02:36:17,920
Speaker 4: dollars drink. But I'm doing it? Are you kidding me?

3414
02:36:18,760 --> 02:36:22,160
Speaker 4: But it is so good and it's so strong, but

3415
02:36:22,200 --> 02:36:25,080
Speaker 4: you don't notice it, so it's perfect for snowboarding. You

3416
02:36:25,120 --> 02:36:27,360
Speaker 4: just get a little bit tipsy. You don't really care

3417
02:36:27,400 --> 02:36:31,320
Speaker 4: if you eat like absolute face, like that would be

3418
02:36:31,360 --> 02:36:34,560
Speaker 4: the worst. But other than that, like, I'm happy, it's

3419
02:36:34,560 --> 02:36:36,440
Speaker 4: great and I'm very excited to drink some egnog and

3420
02:36:36,440 --> 02:36:38,000
Speaker 4: whiskey and a Mammoth moocha.

3421
02:36:38,240 --> 02:36:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a big eggnog I'm kind of like,

3422
02:36:40,320 --> 02:36:42,800
Speaker 1: figure it's got to be perfectly made. I have an

3423
02:36:42,840 --> 02:36:44,800
Speaker 1: old recipe that a front of the family gave that

3424
02:36:45,280 --> 02:36:47,600
Speaker 1: is takes way too long to make and it's worth it.

3425
02:36:47,640 --> 02:36:49,640
Speaker 1: So like I'm an eggnog snob. Like, if it's really

3426
02:36:49,640 --> 02:36:52,280
Speaker 1: good eggnog, I'm in on it. But for the most part, like,

3427
02:36:52,560 --> 02:36:55,279
Speaker 1: and the funny thing is once we hit like December

3428
02:36:55,320 --> 02:36:58,040
Speaker 1: twenty sixth, I want none of this, Like would we

3429
02:36:58,080 --> 02:37:00,080
Speaker 1: hit the December twenty sixth, It's like, all right, the

3430
02:37:00,160 --> 02:37:03,520
Speaker 1: lights are done. Everything's like but until then, like, oh man,

3431
02:37:03,840 --> 02:37:06,120
Speaker 1: like especially when you're sitting in the house and it's

3432
02:37:06,200 --> 02:37:09,560
Speaker 1: just the glow of the old like C nine bulbs.

3433
02:37:09,560 --> 02:37:11,920
Speaker 1: You kids are too young to understand like that. It's

3434
02:37:11,959 --> 02:37:15,039
Speaker 1: not led, it's it's like it's got this warmth to it.

3435
02:37:15,040 --> 02:37:16,680
Speaker 1: It feels like you're at the end of the movie

3436
02:37:16,760 --> 02:37:18,920
Speaker 1: Christmas Story where you're just sitting there, like with the

3437
02:37:19,240 --> 02:37:21,960
Speaker 1: snow falling in the tree. Oh man, I'm telling like

3438
02:37:22,080 --> 02:37:24,240
Speaker 1: that to me when we talk about like the things

3439
02:37:24,240 --> 02:37:27,960
Speaker 1: that signify Christmas, just sitting there with like old Sinatra

3440
02:37:28,040 --> 02:37:31,520
Speaker 1: Christmas music on, drink in hand and the glow of

3441
02:37:31,560 --> 02:37:33,320
Speaker 1: the house. Figgi that that feels like Christmas.

3442
02:37:33,360 --> 02:37:36,600
Speaker 3: Oh, it's amazing. On know what you mean. And you know,

3443
02:37:36,640 --> 02:37:38,680
Speaker 3: we talk about violations on the show all the time.

3444
02:37:38,720 --> 02:37:40,720
Speaker 3: You guys tell me this is a violation. And this

3445
02:37:40,760 --> 02:37:43,600
Speaker 3: one goes to my wife. So this was two years ago.

3446
02:37:44,160 --> 02:37:47,320
Speaker 3: It's Christmas night and she says, what do you think

3447
02:37:47,320 --> 02:37:50,400
Speaker 3: about taking down the decorations? And I'm like, oh god,

3448
02:37:50,600 --> 02:37:55,360
Speaker 3: I don't, and I swear we never argue about anything.

3449
02:37:55,840 --> 02:37:57,360
Speaker 2: This was our standing argument.

3450
02:37:57,640 --> 02:38:00,280
Speaker 3: I was like, under no circumstances am I taking down

3451
02:38:00,360 --> 02:38:03,520
Speaker 3: Christmas decorations on Christmas Day? You're out of your mind

3452
02:38:03,720 --> 02:38:05,000
Speaker 3: because the house is too cluttered.

3453
02:38:05,000 --> 02:38:05,360
Speaker 2: I want to.

3454
02:38:05,840 --> 02:38:07,600
Speaker 3: So we had it back and forth for probably about

3455
02:38:07,640 --> 02:38:09,840
Speaker 3: two and a half minutes, and of course, because I like,

3456
02:38:09,959 --> 02:38:12,400
Speaker 3: you know, my life and happy wife after life, I

3457
02:38:12,520 --> 02:38:14,680
Speaker 3: ended up relenting. But I was like that I've never

3458
02:38:14,720 --> 02:38:17,119
Speaker 3: felt more dirty in my life than when I tug down.

3459
02:38:17,040 --> 02:38:18,760
Speaker 2: Christmas on Christmas night.

3460
02:38:19,040 --> 02:38:22,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it stays up until like January, mid January.

3461
02:38:22,400 --> 02:38:24,120
Speaker 1: For me, I just don't light everything the same way,

3462
02:38:24,200 --> 02:38:26,160
Speaker 1: stays up till mid January. They're like, I just never

3463
02:38:26,480 --> 02:38:28,879
Speaker 1: I never take that, especially with the National Championship Game

3464
02:38:28,920 --> 02:38:31,480
Speaker 1: always being like a week after. We're too like it's

3465
02:38:31,480 --> 02:38:34,080
Speaker 1: too slam, too busy. I feel like it's a mid

3466
02:38:34,160 --> 02:38:38,119
Speaker 1: late January thing getting into court like shay your I mean,

3467
02:38:38,160 --> 02:38:39,680
Speaker 1: what's your mom tell you that I had to throw

3468
02:38:39,720 --> 02:38:41,840
Speaker 1: that in? Like what mom say about that race?

3469
02:38:43,440 --> 02:38:45,360
Speaker 2: No, she's I mean we keep it. We're lazy, are

3470
02:38:45,360 --> 02:38:47,480
Speaker 2: you kidd? I mean we keep it up forever, keep

3471
02:38:47,520 --> 02:38:48,520
Speaker 2: it up to Valentine's Day.

3472
02:38:49,560 --> 02:38:53,120
Speaker 4: When the tree starts dying, that's when we'll throw it away.

3473
02:38:53,160 --> 02:38:54,920
Speaker 1: I just love the fact that it's like, what's what's

3474
02:38:54,959 --> 02:38:56,960
Speaker 1: mom say we have to do about that. I've never

3475
02:38:56,959 --> 02:38:59,400
Speaker 1: felt older than I do on this show today. Okay,

3476
02:38:59,560 --> 02:39:01,480
Speaker 1: I probably should. We would get into the matchups of

3477
02:39:01,560 --> 02:39:04,280
Speaker 1: the weekend. There are a couple of huge collegeships, huge

3478
02:39:04,400 --> 02:39:07,600
Speaker 1: NFL matchups this weekend, but everybody's talking about one. We'll

3479
02:39:07,600 --> 02:39:09,560
Speaker 1: give you a different game you have to watch this weekend.

3480
02:39:09,640 --> 02:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Next on The Fellas,