Speaker 1: I miss the green, for example, I'm already upset.
Speaker 2: When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.
Speaker 2: And when I find my ball in a fried egg
Speaker 2: Friday Egg, the dreaded Friday Egg, Friday Frida Egg Egg,
Speaker 2: Frida Egg, Bride Egg Lie.
Speaker 1: I'm about ready to run.
Speaker 2: Off of the course. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to
Speaker 2: another edition of the Frida Egg Podcast. Today we are
Speaker 2: joined by Internet national sensation Patrick Newcomb. Patrick is one
Speaker 2: of the few golfers to win on two continents this year.
Speaker 2: He just finished up this season on the Mackenzie Tour,
Speaker 2: which is the Canadian Tour. He finished the fourth on
Speaker 2: the money list and that earned him as web dot
Speaker 2: Com card. Earlier in the year, he was playing on
Speaker 2: the Latin American Tour or the Narcos Tour. Patrick, welcome on,
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you're out in Portugal for this the Portugal
Speaker 2: Masters on the euro Tour.
Speaker 1: Huh Yeah.
Speaker 3: This this week I got a sponsored by the first
Speaker 3: one I've ever got, and I couldn't even get one
Speaker 3: in Latin America or Canada when I was writing for him,
Speaker 3: when I had conditional status and so it's it's cool
Speaker 3: to be able to show up and I have to
Speaker 3: Bundy qualifi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it like playing for like eight x money,
Speaker 2: or it might even be more of the money, more money,
Speaker 2: like for the first time.
Speaker 1: No, it's nice. Yeah, I think it's two million euro
Speaker 1: first this week. So that's that's a lot more.
Speaker 3: Than me me playing crazy good and shooting nineteen like
Speaker 3: I having Canada and win thirty k.
Speaker 2: So it's uh, it's it's good. I mean you deserve it.
Speaker 2: You have three wins this year and uh in a
Speaker 2: couple of different places, I mean a lot of great golf.
Speaker 2: And I think you've you've risen in some internet fame. Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, we saw you you win one time and
Speaker 2: it was like whoa, this guy's got this bucket hat on,
Speaker 2: and then he kept popping up, winning more and more.
Speaker 2: So I'm curious how, how and when did the bucket
Speaker 2: hat you know, revolution start.
Speaker 1: It started in Springfield, Missouri on Monday in a web event.
Speaker 3: My brother always had this big bucket hat and he
Speaker 3: was like, I want to wear shricks on.
Speaker 1: He's a he was a Nike guy when he was playing,
Speaker 1: so he just had a Nike one.
Speaker 3: So I got him of shrickx on bucket had out
Speaker 3: of the van and he was wearing it and I
Speaker 3: was like, that looks pretty nice. Like I've been trying
Speaker 3: to get more, thinking about get more for practice, and
Speaker 3: I wore it when I was practicing and it felt
Speaker 3: pretty good. And then you know, I went out and
Speaker 3: I wore an Argentina talking to my buddy like, I
Speaker 3: think I'm where the bucket hat is, but he's like, dude,
Speaker 3: you can't wear that out here. And I was like,
Speaker 3: I think I'm aware it and I shot sixty six,
Speaker 3: I think, and it just kind of stuck.
Speaker 2: After that.
Speaker 1: It was everybody was like that bucket hat looks bad
Speaker 1: on everybody, but it looks good on you, Pat, And
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't really know how to take that,
Speaker 1: but I guess I'll take it as a compliment.
Speaker 2: I've got a bucket hat, and that's the exact thing
Speaker 2: my buddy says, dude, you can't wear that bucket hat.
Speaker 2: I wore it recently because of my wedding to keep
Speaker 2: the sun off me. But I'm curious, does your bucket
Speaker 2: hat have one of those like little strings that go down?
Speaker 1: No, no, no.
Speaker 3: I couldn't. I couldn't do it with that. It would
Speaker 3: be dangling when I'm hitting and stuff. I couldn't deal
Speaker 3: with that. Yeah, that's just this straight up. I gotta
Speaker 3: figure out what to do with mine, because it's got
Speaker 3: like that string. I sometimes I put it behind my head.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I put it in the hat, but I'm thinking
Speaker 3: about just cutting it off. But then do you ever
Speaker 3: run into problems with the wind? And it so? So
Speaker 3: mine fit me really, but I guess my head just
Speaker 3: fits universal bucket hats really well. I don't know, but
Speaker 3: it doesn't ever and it'll like flip up, but it
Speaker 3: doesn't ever barely doesn't fly off. A normal hat flies
Speaker 3: off more than a bucket hat does, so I don't
Speaker 3: know why, but.
Speaker 1: I guess it's just just perfect.
Speaker 2: You're you're born for the bucket.
Speaker 1: I guess that's what it did. I guess that's what
Speaker 1: it's telling me that I was. I was born to
Speaker 1: where the bucket had.
Speaker 3: And and then the buck head on top of the
Speaker 3: pleated pants is just pretty much takes the keg.
Speaker 2: So you know, like all things like you know, cargo
Speaker 2: shorts I guess are like back in style now and
Speaker 2: they were out everything's coming back, so you know, please
Speaker 2: probably are going to come back, So you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. I don't know everybody. Everybody. Everybody's like, pet,
Speaker 1: you gotta get some real clothes, man, those aren't real.
Speaker 2: I mean, you've you've made some money now, so you
Speaker 2: can you can afford to invest, allocate some capital to
Speaker 2: the to the clothes, or or we gotta get you
Speaker 2: a close sponsor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be that'd be the first thing I need
Speaker 3: as a close sponsor, because even living the life that
Speaker 3: I'm living, like this trip over here in the porchical
Speaker 3: was just I just couldn't wrap my head around his
Speaker 3: money I was spending to get over here to play.
Speaker 3: But this week I'm playing for way more money than
Speaker 3: I've ever played for. So it's I guess it's a
Speaker 3: double edged sword there.
Speaker 2: So this week you're you know, you got the the
Speaker 2: bucket hat. You're gonna be rocking the bucket hat with
Speaker 2: arguably you know, this era's most famed no hat player,
Speaker 2: Robert Rock Who's who's just got mad flow game. You
Speaker 2: know it's gonna be a pretty stark contrast.
Speaker 1: Huh Yeah, I actually I actually don't have the bucket hat.
Speaker 1: This week.
Speaker 3: I actually left it at an event. I've actually been
Speaker 3: naked with the bucket hat for a few weeks.
Speaker 1: Now. I need to I need to get on the
Speaker 1: semi one. I have some at home.
Speaker 3: As soon as this week's over, it'll be it'll be
Speaker 3: back in play. But I listened at host family's house
Speaker 3: in Calgary, but it'll be. It'll be interesting to play
Speaker 3: with the flow game. Can't I can't keep up with that.
Speaker 3: It's his flow game has been. It has been really
Speaker 3: nice for a long time. And he and he plays
Speaker 3: in Europe, so with the wind, it just it's just
Speaker 3: like it's perfection out there.
Speaker 1: I just I can't. I don't think I can keep
Speaker 1: up with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's pretty amazing. I Yeah, Robert Rock,
Speaker 2: the flow hasn't deteriorated with age at all, Like there
Speaker 2: is no receding hairline there with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was walking on the range on Tuesday to
Speaker 1: hit like five balls maybe and before I went out,
Speaker 1: because I'd slept like three hours on all the flights
Speaker 1: out of London the Tour Championship to get London Ontario,
Speaker 1: to get all the way over here and then flew
Speaker 1: to London and then flew all the way down here
Speaker 1: and we're walking on the range. First guy I see
Speaker 1: on the range that I actually recognize if I meage
Speaker 1: my buddy, I'm like the flow game, the flow game,
Speaker 1: literally said the flow game.
Speaker 3: And he looks over and started dying laughing, And it
Speaker 3: was Robert Roth just hitting balls. And then of course
Speaker 3: I get paired with him right after, like I get
Speaker 3: the pairings come out, you.
Speaker 1: Know, the next day I'm paired. So it's it's just
Speaker 1: really funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot to be
Speaker 2: said about having like a trademark. Look Like, I think
Speaker 2: like basketball players make so much money because they're the
Speaker 2: most marketable because you can see their whole face. Fans
Speaker 2: are on top of them. But with golf, like you know,
Speaker 2: outside of the big superstars, the big top ten, like
Speaker 2: you remember guys because of like specific things and you
Speaker 2: know it can't be contrived, Like the bucket hat just happened,
Speaker 2: you know, so yours is the bucket hat. But like
Speaker 2: rock as the flow obviously you know there, So there
Speaker 2: there's a there's definitely a marketability factor, and it's good
Speaker 2: for fans because, like you know, fans recognize those types
Speaker 2: of things, like the casual fans easy for them to
Speaker 2: pick up on. So I you mentioned your brother used
Speaker 2: to play. You know, I'm curious, how did you get
Speaker 2: into How did you get into golf? I saw that
Speaker 2: you grew up in Kentuentucky, and just like, how did
Speaker 2: you get started with the game?
Speaker 3: I had a club in my hand when I was
Speaker 3: Both my parents played lots of golf. My dad picked
Speaker 3: up the game at like twenty six and was a
Speaker 3: scratch handicap by the time he was thirty. So he
Speaker 3: was just just really picked up on it fast and
Speaker 3: was became a really good player.
Speaker 1: And a real natural player, like hadn't taken a lot
Speaker 1: of lessons, had a crazy swing, like a big hop
Speaker 1: in his swing, and all kinds of crazy stuff. He
Speaker 1: used to make funning, but he use to beat everybody,
Speaker 1: and so I just had he chopped down little clubs.
Speaker 3: When I was real little, I'd play in the sand
Speaker 3: if I wanted to play in the sand, you know,
Speaker 3: bookers and whatnot. And you know, it was just I
Speaker 3: was always around it, and he never really forced us
Speaker 3: into it. He just said if I ever really wanted
Speaker 3: to start playing, though, just like any other sport. He
Speaker 3: was like, I don't want you to take it serious,
Speaker 3: Like I mean, if we're going to spend the money,
Speaker 3: if you go.
Speaker 1: Play these tournaments, I don't mind it, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: take it serious and do what you're supposed to, you know.
Speaker 1: So it was like it was a little bit more
Speaker 1: intense then. You know, kids just go play in all
Speaker 1: these tournaments and visit their buddies. He was like, you're
Speaker 1: there to play. Well, that's kind of how he's always
Speaker 1: been so and that's I've kind of had that with
Speaker 1: me my whole life, and so I've been around the
Speaker 1: game my whole life pretty much. Hm.
Speaker 2: That's that's cool in terms of since you know, no
Speaker 2: nobody listening to this has probably gone to a Canadian
Speaker 2: tour or a Latin American Tour event. But that is
Speaker 2: something I do want to go cover a Latin American
Speaker 2: tour that sometimes I think it's a it's a missing
Speaker 2: frontier of golf media.
Speaker 1: What yeah, I guess I guess you could say that
Speaker 1: tell us about your style playing, like what's your game?
Speaker 2: Like, you know, is it you know, you know, if
Speaker 2: you were gonna compare yourself, I don't know, just break
Speaker 2: down your game.
Speaker 1: I hit it really straight.
Speaker 3: People people say, you know, well, there's all kinds of
Speaker 3: you know, people say, well, this guy hits it really straight.
Speaker 1: My buddy was telling me the other day. He was
Speaker 1: explaining to his uncle when we were in Ottawa, my
Speaker 1: buddy of Caddy's for me.
Speaker 3: His uncle's from Ottawa, and he was like, what's his
Speaker 3: game like?
Speaker 1: And he's like, it's hard to explain. Just hits it
Speaker 1: really straight. Like I don't really understand how to say it.
Speaker 1: He just hits it straight. And you know, he was
Speaker 1: just saying, like his uncle was saying, I don't even
Speaker 1: know what that means, like, you know, lots of guys
Speaker 1: hit straight.
Speaker 3: And then he got up and he was I was
Speaker 3: hitting balls at his course one day off and I
Speaker 3: was hitting him and.
Speaker 1: He just looked over him. He goes, you're right, It's
Speaker 1: just he just hits it straight. The ball doesn't curve
Speaker 1: at all, Like every shot just kind of just is
Speaker 1: dance straight like that's kind of how he plays. And
Speaker 1: so I'm just I hit it really straight. I have
Speaker 1: a lot of control on my wall and I'm a
Speaker 1: street key potter. So if if puttstuck going in I
Speaker 1: hit a lot of greens. I hit a lot of
Speaker 1: fairways and a lot of greens. And you know, if
Speaker 1: putt stuck go one in. That's if you're hitting the
Speaker 1: fairway in the green on every hole one stone, making
Speaker 1: some putts, you know, that usually adds up to some
Speaker 1: pretty low scores.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it's when the putter gets hot.
Speaker 2: I'm not anywhere near your your level of play. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm a good ball striker, though, and when the putter
Speaker 2: gets hot is so much more fun. Something I kind
Speaker 2: of believe in. And now in today's era of golf,
Speaker 2: is that kind of great ball striking, like in good
Speaker 2: ball strikers is a prerequisite, And it seems like it
Speaker 2: having won a couple of times and being in contention
Speaker 2: a lot, is it is it really?
Speaker 4: Does it really come down to the putter most weeks?
Speaker 4: And you know who makes a couple of extra putts?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it does. I like to play courses
Speaker 1: that that separate, it separates players to hit it well.
Speaker 1: And in Canada, the thing about Canada's courts are good
Speaker 1: down there, good up there, and the players well. But
Speaker 1: I hit a ton of drivers, so I hit a
Speaker 1: ton of drivers, even on really tight holes. That's a
Speaker 1: strength of mind.
Speaker 3: So I take advantage of that, and I'm hitting a
Speaker 3: lot shorter clubs end and a lot of guys, you know,
Speaker 3: because guys are hitting three lens of hybrids, shorter bunkers
Speaker 3: or in the to stay out the tightest areas, and
Speaker 3: I just hit driver on.
Speaker 1: Every hole just to hit it. I hit it up
Speaker 1: in the tidy areas, I'm not worried about it, and
Speaker 1: I hit short clubs. So for me, I think at
Speaker 1: the at the next level, essentially from everyone I've talked
Speaker 1: to that the weeks you make putts, that's the week
Speaker 1: she win. But I think there's a lot to be
Speaker 1: said about that, because you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that you know, have strike the ball very rarely
Speaker 1: do guys strike the ball poorly and when on tour.
Speaker 1: So I think it's I think it's more to be
Speaker 1: said about how well you hit it from the fairlight
Speaker 1: more than it is about making putts, because if you're
Speaker 1: hitting it to thirty feet on every hole, statistically, you're
Speaker 1: just not gonna have a chance to win. So I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's more about the approach. Tiger
Speaker 1: was the greatest there ever was it at approximity to
Speaker 1: hold you know, on his approach shots he played his career,
Speaker 1: wouldn't even hit the fairways. He was hardly hitting any
Speaker 1: fairways and you know, was still winning golf to him
Speaker 1: because he was stillhitting it to twelve feet in the rough.
Speaker 1: You know, So I think I think it's I think
Speaker 1: the big biggest part of the game in winning is
Speaker 1: the second shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had the UFC assistant coach and like last year,
Speaker 2: and that's something he said, is that the skill they,
Speaker 2: you know, really work on to try and develop guys
Speaker 2: for the next level is the approach and I mean
Speaker 2: shorter birdie plus you're gonna make more of in terms of,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of preparing for the next level. Obviously
Speaker 2: this week you've got you know, the European Tours, the
Speaker 2: second best tour in the in the world. What where
Speaker 2: do you think you need to do the most work
Speaker 2: with Is it the wedges and putting or is it
Speaker 2: you know, where do you see kind of the taking
Speaker 2: the next steps and continuing to improve.
Speaker 1: The wedges have been have been a question mark for me,
Speaker 1: which is it's funny there for a while I can
Speaker 1: hit a seven iron cluss and I can hit a
Speaker 1: wedge and stretches, which didn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: At all, but but that's kind of that's kind of
Speaker 3: my game. I hit a lot of mid irons close
Speaker 3: and and even longer clubs close and and I really
Speaker 3: revaent my wedges this year, and the wedges have gotten
Speaker 3: a lot better.
Speaker 1: So this week you're gonna hit a lot of short
Speaker 1: clubs and scores are gonna be well. Guys are gonna
Speaker 1: get a hold of this place from playing it.
Speaker 3: And so this week it's just about dialing in distances
Speaker 3: for me from all from anywhere from like one to
Speaker 3: seventy down to one hundred, which is.
Speaker 1: Pretty much every week for me. If those are dialed
Speaker 1: in as well as I drive it, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: tons of bucks. And I'm gonna have one day where
Speaker 1: I roll in a bunch of pots one or two
Speaker 1: and I'll give me a chance to win on the
Speaker 1: back mound on Sunday, which is which is all I
Speaker 1: look for every time I tee it up.
Speaker 3: Is everyone's like, you know, I want to win the
Speaker 3: golf tournament. But it's not so much about winning the
Speaker 3: golf trim is getting the work done.
Speaker 1: You know the first sixty uh, you know, sixty three
Speaker 1: holes and when you tee off on ten on Sunday,
Speaker 1: you got a chance to win. You want be three
Speaker 1: back or what what whatnot, But you can't ask for
Speaker 1: much more than a chance to win on the back
Speaker 1: now Sunday. And so that's kind of my motto.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's an aspect of golf that goes overlooked.
Speaker 2: Is just it's it's just the same way as making
Speaker 2: is getting birdy opportunities, and a bigger scale is getting
Speaker 2: winning opportunities. You know, you got to be in the
Speaker 2: mix because it's the ball is not gonna go your
Speaker 2: way every time, but if you're there a lot, you're
Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna happen more often. In terms of the
Speaker 2: wedge vamp, I'm always curious because one of the things
Speaker 2: I find interesting with golf is sometimes like what makes
Speaker 2: a great driver swing? You know, a great driver of
Speaker 2: the golf ball can be counteractive to a great wedge player.
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it something you did technique wise to
Speaker 2: kind of kind of revamp the wedge game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my brother had changed some stuff around in his
Speaker 1: wife's game and had smoken into a few people and
Speaker 1: kind of got I guess he could say he got
Speaker 1: his body out of the shot. Was took his legs
Speaker 1: and his and his upper body out the shot, and
Speaker 1: was pretty much just hitting web shots with his arms,
Speaker 1: which was more of a control. You can control the
Speaker 1: distance better, you can control a whole lot of different things.
Speaker 1: And I've always hit shots with my upper body and
Speaker 1: my arms were almost not existed. It was turn and turn,
Speaker 1: And that's so much harder to dial in a shot
Speaker 1: at eighty two yards or seventy five yards or sixty
Speaker 1: you know, sixty three yards weird numbers like that where
Speaker 1: you need to hit it within a yard or two
Speaker 1: and online and control the spin. It's that's it's a
Speaker 1: special art. Like that's why the most of the time,
Speaker 1: the guys that hit the ball the shortest off tee
Speaker 1: have the most have the least amount of rotation in
Speaker 1: their body and strength, so they have more control over
Speaker 1: the shorter shot if it's a you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: how it hit their normal shots. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: what we did. We kind of took my body out
Speaker 1: of the hit and we were kind of hitting with
Speaker 1: my arms and really got my arms swinging freer and
Speaker 1: not not swinging with my body, and you know, I
Speaker 1: started doing that and we just you know, wedges started
Speaker 1: coming off good spin was the same every time, and
Speaker 1: it really changed everything for me. Actually I switched, Actually
Speaker 1: I wanted Honduras, but I hit seven irons in every
Speaker 1: green in Honduras. It was it was the craziest thing.
Speaker 1: But but after that, you know, that's what's helped me
Speaker 1: play so well in consistent Canada and have a chance
Speaker 1: a lot because you know, I still make plenty of
Speaker 1: birdies with seven six five six seven irons that most
Speaker 1: people don't. And then I have a lot of good
Speaker 1: looks for with wedges, and it's just been it's just
Speaker 1: been really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, A good recipe for golf is drive it well
Speaker 2: and wedge it well and put it travel as well
Speaker 2: in terms of so you see it with like international
Speaker 2: players that come on the PGA Tour, like perfect examples,
Speaker 2: like a Seawou camp. But you're doing the same thing
Speaker 2: as an American now right now in Portugal, and then
Speaker 2: you know, in the spring in Latin America, what's it
Speaker 2: like and how much tougher is it to play golf
Speaker 2: in a foreign country where you don't speak the language,
Speaker 2: and you know, you're kind of traveling there. You're you're
Speaker 2: unaware of the culture, the surroundings. It's a new style
Speaker 2: of golf, Like how much you know? How difficult is that?
Speaker 2: And was there a big transition period.
Speaker 1: So over here?
Speaker 3: No, The best thing that I ever did happened to
Speaker 3: me in my career is I went to South Africa
Speaker 3: my second.
Speaker 1: Year as a pro and I went to Q School
Speaker 1: and I got status on the Sunshine Tour. And with
Speaker 1: getting me that status, I was there five months straight.
Speaker 1: I got status. I was going to play the whole
Speaker 1: first half of the year till the summer and then
Speaker 1: I might fly back after the summer and finish up.
Speaker 1: And I was there.
Speaker 3: I flew over, flew over in January, and I came back.
Speaker 3: I came back in late May, early June. I was
Speaker 3: it was about five months.
Speaker 1: And that was the best thing they ever happened to
Speaker 1: deal with being away with nobody. I went over there
Speaker 1: with nobody. I just went over there and uh and
Speaker 1: just figured it out. And doing that, I think that
Speaker 1: just made everything easier. So when I went to Latin America,
Speaker 1: it's annoying not speaking the language, but it wasn't a
Speaker 1: big deal for me. It was just I would just
Speaker 1: had I just knew how to get around, and so
Speaker 1: it makes a big difference. So I think, you know,
Speaker 1: really for anybody to go away into play in another country,
Speaker 1: it makes it so much easier, makes you so much
Speaker 1: more comfortable. Like when I was playing in Canada, it
Speaker 1: was like a breeze. It was like life was easy.
Speaker 1: It was it was like the craziest thing.
Speaker 3: It it's more difficult with with the language barrier and
Speaker 3: the cultures, but it's it's it's.
Speaker 1: When it carries over into your game and you're just
Speaker 1: like annoyed the whole time you're there. You just can't
Speaker 1: when you step away from all that stuff and you
Speaker 1: step on the course, it's like saying, that's the way
Speaker 1: I kind of look at it. It's like I don't
Speaker 1: have to deal with anything. I just deal with you know,
Speaker 1: hitting this white ball that I do all the time
Speaker 1: and getting in the hole. So that's kind of that's
Speaker 1: the kind of way I approach it, which makes it
Speaker 1: makes it a lot easier. It's like I'm excited to
Speaker 1: get to the course so and get away from all
Speaker 1: this nonsense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's on the golf course and none of
Speaker 2: that stuff matters. It's interesting. I imagine that the experience
Speaker 2: right out of college really you know, second years and
Speaker 2: in South Africa, it forced you to grow up. And
Speaker 2: I think one of the more underrated aspects of professional
Speaker 2: golf is learning to be an adult at age twenty three,
Speaker 2: travel and be alone. So, you know, how how was
Speaker 2: that adjustment period being in a foreign country for for
Speaker 2: five months alone? Like, you know, what would you do?
Speaker 1: And it was it was a pretty good setup. When
Speaker 1: I was in Johannesburg where I was staying, I wasn't
Speaker 1: far from the course, and you know, there's a couple
Speaker 1: of restaurants that I'd gone to like my first week
Speaker 1: there that and I kind of just kind of stayed
Speaker 1: in my little bubble in Johannesburg. But like going into
Speaker 1: like Zimbabwe and Zambia, I've seen all that. It's just
Speaker 1: it's just crazy. It's crazy to.
Speaker 3: See those cultures and experience those things, and and there's
Speaker 3: really eye opening and it was it made me appreciate
Speaker 3: what I had so much more.
Speaker 1: It was funny. I was on the plane back walking
Speaker 1: on the plane and people had to just hate me
Speaker 1: because I was just I literally was about to be
Speaker 1: on the plane. I was so happy. I was so happy.
Speaker 1: I was just like I just I was just started
Speaker 1: channing USA walking onto.
Speaker 3: The plane when I was about to fly out of Johannesburg,
Speaker 3: and then when I was I ended in London, I
Speaker 3: had a layover, and then even in London, I was like,
Speaker 3: this is not this isn't what I like, this is
Speaker 3: not home.
Speaker 1: I don't know what this is, but it's not like one.
Speaker 1: And I started chanting it again on getting on the
Speaker 1: plane again in London, like walking like after I got
Speaker 1: my ticket, walking down to the tarmac, like I was
Speaker 1: like like I was like, this is I cannot wait.
Speaker 1: I can't wait when these ten hours were over, and
Speaker 1: like it's going to be the most amazing thing in
Speaker 1: the world. And I was just so happy when I
Speaker 1: got back in the States and just you just couldn't
Speaker 1: even imagine. That's that's what made me, you know, appreciate
Speaker 1: what I had at home and you know, just just
Speaker 1: everything life. I was so much more appreciative about life
Speaker 1: and just everything that I was doing, you know, getting
Speaker 1: to come home and even being in Latin America.
Speaker 3: If I go for three weeks I know I'm coming home,
Speaker 3: so I'm even it's even easier like when I was
Speaker 3: going for five months.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a long time to be in a
Speaker 1: place where there's some beautiful things, where there was a
Speaker 1: lot of terrible things going on over there, and it
Speaker 1: was for me, it was amazing to experience those things.
Speaker 1: And you know, and hopefully my career keeps going and
Speaker 1: I only have to experience those things and small doses
Speaker 1: from now on, not not in large doses like I
Speaker 1: did before.
Speaker 2: Where you'll have like an end date unless you know,
Speaker 2: if you go out and win on the euro Tour
Speaker 2: this week, that would be a good problem, right, because then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be a great problem.
Speaker 3: And they and they go to the nicest places, like
Speaker 3: the European Tour events that were in South Africa were
Speaker 3: at the nicest courses I played the whole time I
Speaker 3: was there, So it was like, you know, they they
Speaker 3: go in and it's it's for royal treatment, and it's
Speaker 3: every it's super nice everywhere they go, and you know,
Speaker 3: it's not it's not like the Sunshine Tour and it's
Speaker 3: not like Latin America, and uh, you know, Canada was
Speaker 3: an amazing experience but if everything's always always amazing when
Speaker 3: you're playing though, and then any golfer knows that you
Speaker 3: always like the golf course. You go play some breaking
Speaker 3: DNK Muni that's in terrible shape, and you go out
Speaker 3: and she's sixty seventy, like I like that place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but if you you know, it's you
Speaker 1: can go play a perfect golf court shoot and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh that place, wasn't that nice out there, Like it
Speaker 1: wasn't that good. That's just that's just golfer's nature, I
Speaker 1: feel like. So, so you know that that was with Canada.
Speaker 1: It was it was funny. I was playing well, but
Speaker 1: it was so I was like I was always happy
Speaker 1: the whole time I was up there, but uh, but
Speaker 1: it was nice to get home and and this week,
Speaker 1: you know, I guess it's just hopefully I get hot
Speaker 1: and play well, and then we moved forward. I mean
Speaker 1: it's from week to week. I've been week to week
Speaker 1: for about twenty weeks now, because I didn't expect to
Speaker 1: stay up in Canada as long as I did.
Speaker 2: So with the Sunshine Tour and going to places.
Speaker 4: Like Zambias and Babe like, and you're traveling with your
Speaker 4: golf clubs.
Speaker 2: Did you not have a caddy at the time?
Speaker 1: No, No, I just picked up a local jock every time.
Speaker 2: What's the what's the between Latin America and UH and
Speaker 2: so you know, Southern Africa? What who had the better caddies?
Speaker 2: And you know who's the most memorable looper? You had?
Speaker 1: Most memorable? I got a few. I got the guy
Speaker 1: that I won with in Honduras this year. Carlos is
Speaker 1: one of the funniest guys I've ever met, because he
Speaker 1: literally he thought I was hilarious because we'd walk there
Speaker 1: was these promo girls and we would walk past him,
Speaker 1: and every time he would like, go get a drink
Speaker 1: or whatnot, and I'd like nudge him. I'd be like,
Speaker 1: let's you get in there, like go talk to her
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and he just thought that was He
Speaker 1: barely spoke any English. He just thought that was so funny.
Speaker 1: So one time he thought that I, like, nugget, was like,
Speaker 1: don't talk to her, and he no, no, no, no, And
Speaker 1: then he went and talk to her. And then he
Speaker 1: came back and handed me a phone number and he goes,
Speaker 1: it's her phone number. You wanted her phone number? I said, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I said it for you. So from then on, every person,
Speaker 1: every time we went past the ten, he would go
Speaker 1: talk to him and get a phone number, and go
Speaker 1: talk to him and get a phone number, and it
Speaker 1: was the funniest thing ever. That's probably my favorite one.
Speaker 3: And he that was the first year I was in Honduras,
Speaker 3: and then he cadded from me again this year in
Speaker 3: Honduras and he.
Speaker 1: It was funny because we won and he was like
Speaker 1: he's been sending me messages every week like let me
Speaker 1: come caddy for you and all this stuff. But Carlos, yeah,
Speaker 1: Carlos Coast was funny. And he was also the only
Speaker 1: one that didn't ask for a big tip after the
Speaker 1: week was over, the only one of all the places
Speaker 1: that we went to.
Speaker 2: So do you got do you get a bigger tip?
Speaker 2: Because of that? Always? Yeah, that's always. It's an amazing thing.
Speaker 2: If you don't ask for something, it usually it works
Speaker 2: out better. In terms of the numbers, I mean, did
Speaker 2: you did you call any of them? Uh? Huh?
Speaker 3: Now, I chatted with one of them during the week
Speaker 3: of But it's like the it's like crazy because we're
Speaker 3: on this resort and then all these people that are working.
Speaker 3: You're getting bussed in from like miles and miles away
Speaker 3: to work and then they bust in early in the
Speaker 3: morning and then they stayed at the end and then
Speaker 3: they get bushed out. So it's uh, it's just the
Speaker 3: the culture and everything. And that was definitely wasn't gonna
Speaker 3: about to get take like a forty five minute bus
Speaker 3: ride in the middle of nowhere in Honduras.
Speaker 1: To go to go see. I've I teetered on the
Speaker 1: on the edge of bad experiences in South Africa, and
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna do that again in Latin America.
Speaker 4: So yeah, in terms of like the diceiest travel situation
Speaker 4: you've been in with like you know, your your clubs
Speaker 4: or you know, is there any time where you were
Speaker 4: like whoa, Like what the fuck am I doing?
Speaker 1: So I I was, I I met this girl in Nicaragua.
Speaker 1: This is this isn't a good story. This will be good.
Speaker 1: I've only told my buddies this, but I missed the
Speaker 1: cut Nicaragua and this is, this is, this is this
Speaker 1: is one of the this is one of the better stories.
Speaker 1: And this and I went to watch my buddy tea
Speaker 1: off and uh, and I was, I was sitting there
Speaker 1: and I practiced that morning, and that afternoon I was
Speaker 1: just having a couple of drinks because I couldn't change
Speaker 1: my flight We're going to the next week, so I
Speaker 1: just I went to go watch my buddy te off.
Speaker 1: I was gonna watch and walk a couple of holes
Speaker 1: and this girl was working this tent and I had
Speaker 1: to drink it and we started chatting a little bit
Speaker 1: and then she was like, you know, you're from America.
Speaker 1: We chatted whatever. I walked away, and then the next
Speaker 1: day I came back to watch my buddy come through
Speaker 1: there and she was there and she goes what, She goes,
Speaker 1: what are you leaving all this stuff? She's like, you
Speaker 1: should come come with us, me and my friends. You
Speaker 1: should be your friends should come. So I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: i'll go. My buddy had to play the next day
Speaker 1: and he's like, I can't go. So I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, whatever, I'll go. I don't have anything to do.
Speaker 1: So we pulled Nicaragua. We were literally on a resort
Speaker 1: in like a weird place in Nicaragua where it was
Speaker 1: like really out on the ocean, like exclusive, you know,
Speaker 1: really secluded, And so we're driving out and I think
Speaker 1: we're going to take a right the way we came
Speaker 1: in on our shuttle. We take a left and like
Speaker 1: and we take a left and the road ends and
Speaker 1: it's like a like a gravel road kind of thing,
Speaker 1: and it's like a road but it's not really a road,
Speaker 1: and there's no lights, and I'm just like thinking. I'm
Speaker 1: literally like we're driving and I'm think, well, something's gonna
Speaker 1: come up soon. And we get about like five miles
Speaker 1: like off, like down, I'm like, I'm like, well, pet,
Speaker 1: you made a bad decision and you're about to pay
Speaker 1: for it. Like, you made a poor decision and you're.
Speaker 2: About to pay for it.
Speaker 1: You can't really get mad's you really can't even get mad.
Speaker 1: You know, you made a decision that you should never
Speaker 1: have made to leave the resort, and you're about to
Speaker 1: pay for it. It's bad things you're about to happen.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's gonna happen, but bad things
Speaker 1: you're about to happen. And I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, stay calm, like you're fine. Like I
Speaker 1: was like looking around, I was asking a bunch of
Speaker 1: questions like are you okay. I'm like, yeah, whatever, And
Speaker 1: it's so funny. As soon as I'm asking, like, guys,
Speaker 1: I think I need to go back to the resort,
Speaker 1: like you guys can, like you guys might drop me
Speaker 1: off back at the resort, and we pull up on
Speaker 1: this beach and it's just like this amazing view and
Speaker 1: this like nice restaurant and like just like this super
Speaker 1: like nice place. And it was just funny because they
Speaker 1: were the people I was with, was just laughing at me.
Speaker 1: They were just like, you thought we were gonna kidnap.
Speaker 2: You didn't.
Speaker 1: I was like I thought something really poor was about
Speaker 1: to happen, to be honest, and but yeah, it was fine.
Speaker 1: We end up walking coming out on this beach and
Speaker 1: having dinner and it was it was fine, but it
Speaker 1: was Uh, that was probably the most uncomfortable I've ever
Speaker 1: been in any situation for about a ten minute stretch.
Speaker 2: So did you go back to the resort that night?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, I did. Yes. As soon as dinner was
Speaker 1: over when I went back to the resort, I was
Speaker 1: ready to get back to the resort. And uh, and
Speaker 1: I haven't done anything like that since that was that
Speaker 1: was a good lesson lesson learned.
Speaker 2: I think you should have doubled down there.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe a younger pet would have doubled down,
Speaker 1: but but that was that was a pretty that will
Speaker 1: that will always be to my memory for sure.
Speaker 4: So having played on both the McKenzie tour and the
Speaker 4: Narcos Tour, in terms of like the experience like of each,
Speaker 4: like how would how would you kind of compare the
Speaker 4: vibe and and the guys not on each and and
Speaker 4: just the overall like what what did you like and
Speaker 4: what did you not like about each experience?
Speaker 1: The best thing about the Narco story, which I think
Speaker 1: is funny that you call it that, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Best thing about Tron Carter no laying up guys creations,
Speaker 2: I can't take full credit for it.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so we The best thing about that is
Speaker 1: because you're in these places where there's a language barrier,
Speaker 1: and the Latin guys all have their crew and they're
Speaker 1: super and that their culture is super friendly, so they
Speaker 1: joke around with everybody and all of that. So the
Speaker 1: with that, you.
Speaker 3: Know, those guys are awesome too, because I've met a
Speaker 3: bunch of women and you know, and you know, a
Speaker 3: bunch of them think I'm a crazy guy, and all
Speaker 3: kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: With, you know, because of token stories like that and
Speaker 1: you know other things, and and so those those guys,
Speaker 1: that culture is great and they you know, they know
Speaker 1: like the ins and outs, and but the Americans that
Speaker 1: are down there, you're it's kind of like a brotherhood
Speaker 1: like kind of together because you're kind of secluded of
Speaker 1: the culture and you know, you don't speak the language
Speaker 1: that well, and you know, you're all kind of getting
Speaker 1: together to get an Airbnb and like you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: where'd you stay last year? Was that safe?
Speaker 3: You know, all this stuff, and it's just like a
Speaker 3: it's like more everyone looking out for each other. Down
Speaker 3: in the narcoch Tour and the McKinsey Tour. Everybody it's
Speaker 3: just like playing a mini tour event and it's not
Speaker 3: you know, everybody's not there's a much nice guys out there.
Speaker 1: Guys are nice, but it's.
Speaker 3: Not as tight as as a Latin Like I love
Speaker 3: the Latin Tour. I love playing down in Latin America
Speaker 3: because it's just everybody's so tight and it's just a
Speaker 3: great experience and you know, guys are guys are fun,
Speaker 3: and you know, you can experience a lot more things.
Speaker 1: Kid, it was more it was more like business like.
Speaker 1: It's actually felt more even like even in the web
Speaker 1: events I played, it felt more like a tour event
Speaker 1: down in Canada with just the culture like the PGA tour.
Speaker 3: It's not really like buddy buddy. It's like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's everyone has their own little click or their own
Speaker 3: little you know, they had their agent and you know
Speaker 3: all that stuff. That's kind of how it felt in Canada.
Speaker 3: More like everybody was you know, did their own thing.
Speaker 3: You know, everybody was nice and passing and practice.
Speaker 1: But Latin was you know, it's like a brotherhood.
Speaker 3: It's like a good group of guys and and Canada
Speaker 3: felt more like super business business like and and you know,
Speaker 3: guys weren't as you know, friendly and weren't like working
Speaker 3: together like they like it was in Latin America.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I imagine because there's a lot of guys down
Speaker 4: on the Latin America tour that that play that for
Speaker 4: like a that are from you know, South America and
Speaker 4: Latin America that play it for like their profession, like
Speaker 4: that's their thing, right.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. They don't go to the expensive weeks
Speaker 1: like you never see them in a week it's gonna
Speaker 1: cost them a lot of money to go play never
Speaker 1: see them there, Yeah, and so it's it's crazy to
Speaker 1: see that, you know. And then there's a lot of
Speaker 1: great players down there that play it on there every
Speaker 1: year and know all those courses and and stuff. And
Speaker 1: in Canada it seemed like it was a bunch of
Speaker 1: twenty two year olds, twenty one year twenty one, twenty
Speaker 1: three guys right.
Speaker 3: Out of college, hadn't did it, hadn't done you know,
Speaker 3: the travel and the professional lifestyle at all. And it
Speaker 3: was like it was like the I mean, it's important
Speaker 3: to play well, and it's important to work hard, but
Speaker 3: like my mentality is like if I'm happy and I'm
Speaker 3: excited to be there and I got a new crew
Speaker 3: with me, like I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna play a good most weeks.
Speaker 3: So you know, I've traveled the world and I've done
Speaker 3: a lot, and these, you know a lot of the
Speaker 3: younger kids that I met up there were just like
Speaker 3: it was like for dear life, like every every week
Speaker 3: mattered so much and every round mattaged so much. It
Speaker 3: just had a different feel than these, Like you said,
Speaker 3: these professionals down literally their profession was to play Latin
Speaker 3: America and finished you know, thirtieth on annualists to make
Speaker 3: money like for their family and like do the whole mine,
Speaker 3: you know, and everyone, you know, everyone up in Canada
Speaker 3: was really really driven to to just really get to
Speaker 3: the web that comfort. We're like, oh my, but I
Speaker 3: got so many buddies out there I've played against that
Speaker 3: they're already out there.
Speaker 1: I got to get there now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's almost like it's like the Canadian Tour
Speaker 2: is like an extension of college golf where it's it's
Speaker 2: so serious and it's you know, training, training, training, versus
Speaker 2: I mean the Latin America to where you're like, I mean,
Speaker 2: you're never going to go down to imagine an event
Speaker 2: and there's going to be like a gym nearby that
Speaker 2: you can go like pump weights and right after your round,
Speaker 2: I mean. And it's just such so much different in
Speaker 2: a vibe, and it's it's probably so helpful because it
Speaker 2: teaches you so much perspective. I think that that's what
Speaker 2: gets lost so much with you know, golfers, is a
Speaker 2: perspective of playing golf for a living, Like it's pretty
Speaker 2: damn awesome, especially if you can be successful at it.
Speaker 1: No, it's everybody it's uh. You know, I'll be saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be talking about this or that, and
Speaker 1: I'll be bitching about something. I'm sure at some point,
Speaker 1: you know, and and you know, my body's like like, dude,
Speaker 1: like just let me let me, let's search you, let
Speaker 1: me let me come hang out and in Latin America
Speaker 1: and play golf and you can come sit in my
Speaker 1: desk job and uh.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, and I always say it. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm like, everything's relative, so you should always know that,
Speaker 3: Like you know, anyone you can be uncomfortable in you're setting.
Speaker 3: It it's relatively it's different than what it normally is.
Speaker 3: But I said, I said, I had the greatest job
Speaker 3: in the world. I wouldn't change it for anything in
Speaker 3: the world. I was like, it's all relative, you know,
Speaker 3: to to whatever whatever's going on. And I like, I
Speaker 3: said it to my buddy, Like was like, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm still going to complain about something if I want
Speaker 3: to complain about it. Yeah, But but I mean, I
Speaker 3: have a great job in the world, which is which
Speaker 3: is nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it is sweet, gig. I complain a
Speaker 2: lot sometimes to my buddies about what I do now
Speaker 2: which is this and and write and stuff, And they're like, dude,
Speaker 2: are you kidding me? I'm like, well, like you know,
Speaker 2: there's but yeah, I love what I do way more
Speaker 2: than what I used to do. So it is all relative.
Speaker 2: So it where where? What was your what's it like
Speaker 2: in all of your travels? What's your favorite spot you've been?
Speaker 2: You know, whether it's in South Africa or South America, Canada.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're you're a h Your passport's got
Speaker 2: to be just littered.
Speaker 3: I gotta get new pages. I just looked like I
Speaker 3: could literally about to fly out here soon. I gotta
Speaker 3: make sure and check whatever the regulations are. But like
Speaker 3: I could literally about to fly out, and they be like,
Speaker 3: you can't fly out you don't have enough pages, because
Speaker 3: I know that's like a regulation and I'm getting very
Speaker 3: close to that. So actually after after I get home,
Speaker 3: like if I get a little stretch off, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have to get some new pages my passport.
Speaker 1: Probably my best spot, my favorite spot, one of those
Speaker 1: one of the coolest plants to ever went was.
Speaker 3: It was the first turn that I went to was
Speaker 3: the Dimension Dad that was in fan Court, South Africa.
Speaker 3: It's still a background on my phone, and it was
Speaker 3: three courses there and it was just one of the
Speaker 3: most amazing places.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. I played terrible, No, That's why That's
Speaker 1: why I remember it's still being so amazing, because I
Speaker 1: didn't play good at I missed the cut, and I
Speaker 1: still remembered how awesome the place was. And that's never
Speaker 1: the case for me that that is probably my favorite
Speaker 1: place that I've been. But my favorite, probably my favorite
Speaker 1: golf course that I've been to is it was probably
Speaker 1: Ocean Forest in Sea Island, Georgia. That's probably my favorite
Speaker 1: track I've ever played. There are Cherry Hills in Colorado. So,
Speaker 1: but the place I've ever been was probably Fan Court,
Speaker 1: South Africa.
Speaker 2: That's that's cool. I want to get down to South
Speaker 2: Africa sometime. I mean, I think I'm years away from
Speaker 2: doing that. I got some other places I want to
Speaker 2: check out, like Australia. You should try and play in
Speaker 2: like that Australian Open. That'd be cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they ever get me a start, I'll be there.
Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of how it is.
Speaker 2: You are definitely, uh, you don't. I don't think anybody
Speaker 2: will dispute that you won't travel. I will travel is
Speaker 2: a very you know app So now now that you've
Speaker 2: got your card locked up, I know you're you're you're
Speaker 2: going to try and get some sponsors and exemptions and
Speaker 2: and work that game. You know, like what else will
Speaker 2: you play in You're kind of a you know, you're
Speaker 2: in no man's land.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I'm depending on uh, you know
Speaker 1: what sponsored bots I get. I'm really excited about.
Speaker 3: You know, the PGA Tour is by far, hands down
Speaker 3: the best tour in the world. I know everyone knows that,
Speaker 3: but it's just it's just not even close. It's unbelievable
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 1: It's the greatest lifestyle in the world, and especially as
Speaker 1: a golfer, it's just you just play amazing tracks weekend
Speaker 1: and week out, and they chase the best weather too.
Speaker 1: You never played bad You notice how there's never bad
Speaker 1: weather on the PGA Tour. Yeah, like maybe maybe like
Speaker 1: one week a year and it's a weird storm where
Speaker 1: it was like high winds and the highest wind records
Speaker 1: and years. Yeah, there's never a bad weather ever on
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour.
Speaker 2: So he just came to Chicago and September is the
Speaker 2: best golfing weather here mm hmm.
Speaker 3: No hardly any wind, perfect and just sunny, no humidity. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's amazing. So I would love to
Speaker 3: get PJ tour starts. That's that's the next. That's the
Speaker 3: next for me is you know, I've been writing and
Speaker 3: hopefully I can get you know, get some starts. I
Speaker 3: went out to the after I wanted hon Duras. Not
Speaker 3: that I have a lot of money or anything, but
Speaker 3: I actually told my buddy I was gonna come visit
Speaker 3: him on the three weeks off.
Speaker 1: Visit him for a week and he lived out in Vegas,
Speaker 1: and so I wanted hun Duras and I changed my
Speaker 1: some I'm literally supposed to call in the morning Tour
Speaker 1: Travel and change my flight from back home out of
Speaker 1: hun Duras to Vegas forget in the morning. On sidey,
Speaker 1: I make the cut on the number this year. I
Speaker 1: go out and I go out and I'm in the
Speaker 1: middle of my round. It's funny. I'm I think I'm
Speaker 1: at like five under at the time. I'm in the
Speaker 1: middle of my round.
Speaker 5: Going to ninety ninety or maybe ten t and I'm like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, I forgot to change my flight and
Speaker 5: the only thing I thought about and the whole back
Speaker 5: nine is you can't forget to change your flight because
Speaker 5: tour travel most of the time isn't.
Speaker 1: Open on Sundays. Yeah, I was like, I have to
Speaker 1: call them before when I get done, like I have
Speaker 1: to do this, and it's all I found around the
Speaker 1: back nine.
Speaker 3: I went around there and shot sixty one and took
Speaker 3: the lead, and then I had to do a bunch
Speaker 3: of and I have set the course record, and I
Speaker 3: have to do all these interviews.
Speaker 1: And at the same point, I was sick that most
Speaker 1: of that week. It was the craziest week ever. I
Speaker 1: was sick all week. Like I literally didn't I literally
Speaker 1: didn't play. I played like one to nine holes practice
Speaker 1: round week. It was It's unreal how life works. And
Speaker 1: so I'm like and then I have to do all
Speaker 1: these interviews, and I'm like, well, I want to go
Speaker 1: hit a few balls. After these interviews, I forgot again.
Speaker 1: I'm want to go hit a few balls and like,
Speaker 1: groove this, like I'm going to win the ball off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cancel win tomorrow. I go hit balls in the range
Speaker 1: I'm putting, and my buddy walks up to me and
Speaker 1: goes and goes you change your flight. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. I run back the room call like
Speaker 1: four minutes before Tour Travel closes, change my flight. I
Speaker 1: go on to win and spend a week out in Vegas.
Speaker 1: That story leads up to me playing TPC Summerland and
Speaker 1: I love that track. I absolutely love that track.
Speaker 2: It is built for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not too long, It's not too long. It
Speaker 1: plays firm and fast, and I hit a lot of
Speaker 1: short clubs in and the part fives are kind of narrow,
Speaker 1: and the greens are kind of quirky and hit long
Speaker 1: clubs well, and it just it's built so well for me.
Speaker 1: I tore it up all week long when I was
Speaker 1: out there, and so I would love to play in
Speaker 1: the Shriners Hospital. That's That's like the one that I
Speaker 1: really want to get in. In the wrap around season.
Speaker 2: We got to get this man a man a spot. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it'd be it'd.
Speaker 1: Be amazing to be able to get out there and
Speaker 1: go play. You know, I was out there all week
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm I almost got to Vegas and I
Speaker 1: ever get to a place in my life where I can.
Speaker 1: So I love that track.
Speaker 2: Where do you headquarter now.
Speaker 1: Really on awfully say, lately, I've just been flying to
Speaker 1: wherever a buddy lives and like practicing there instead of
Speaker 1: going back to Kentucky because my coach is there. But
Speaker 1: we can video, we can send videos, and I just
Speaker 1: it's not a lot I can get done at home
Speaker 1: in Kentucky.
Speaker 3: You know, I'll play a bit country club. It's sixty
Speaker 3: one hundred yards, no driving range. I've played it a
Speaker 3: billion times, like you know, it's like it just it
Speaker 3: just doesn't it doesn't show what I need to work on.
Speaker 2: Really, maybe you should play, you should try. I always
Speaker 2: say this to my buddy. He's my my floorball partner,
Speaker 2: and he plays at this course I grew up playing at,
Speaker 2: which is I mean you can hit driver everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I can go out and shoot under part of
Speaker 2: my sleep. I always tell him, like, why don't you
Speaker 2: play with just a five iron and under? So then
Speaker 2: you're hitting like all different clubs into the greens, you know,
Speaker 2: And I mean obviously it hurts it you don't get
Speaker 2: work on your driver, but Alsoden, you're hitting like seven
Speaker 2: irons and the greens that you've always hit wedges into.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I actually that was the next thing I
Speaker 1: was going to, Like, I've played that place with you know,
Speaker 1: no woods. I played that place with you know one time.
Speaker 3: One time I played that place with seven iron down
Speaker 3: and played it seven iron down and played it as
Speaker 3: a par sixty eight.
Speaker 1: Played the seven iron down and play the fives as fours.
Speaker 1: It was, it was, it was, It was crazy. My
Speaker 1: buddy was like, you can't shoot und the bar seven
Speaker 1: iron down and par sixty eight.
Speaker 3: Or it might have been six iron. It might have
Speaker 3: been where I could hit a full shot into the
Speaker 3: par threes, whatever club I needed. I think it was
Speaker 3: a six iron where I could hit a six iron
Speaker 3: to the middle of the green.
Speaker 1: It was a back flag. It was just I was tough.
Speaker 1: But whenever I could hit to the middle of the
Speaker 1: greens on the longest par three, that was the longest
Speaker 1: club in my bag and played in all the fives
Speaker 1: and I shot sixty seven. I shot one under actually
Speaker 1: doing that. And but yeah, it's of course, it's just
Speaker 1: so easy. I know it so well, and you just can't.
Speaker 1: I just can't. Like it's cool, it's cool to do.
Speaker 1: But like my my strength of my game is my driver,
Speaker 1: and I want hit drivers like that's what I work
Speaker 1: on because my driver is you know, I'm not short,
Speaker 1: like I'm super short, and I have to hit it straight.
Speaker 1: I'm decently long, and I hit it straighter than most
Speaker 1: guys that my length are longer hit it.
Speaker 3: So I can't really work on that stuff. So I
Speaker 3: just kind of fly to wherever. I was in Jacksonville
Speaker 3: on my last week off.
Speaker 2: And it's got to be nice that you get the
Speaker 2: practice and play at the TPC courses. It probably helps
Speaker 2: a ton with traveling around.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I always fly in with a
Speaker 1: TVC course, or I spend my winters in Orlando, so
Speaker 1: like that's I have a place there down at Reunion Resort.
Speaker 1: They're good to me there and I can go in
Speaker 1: there and practice in Orlando, so you know, wherever there's
Speaker 1: a TBC.
Speaker 3: I spent my birthday in New Orleans actually a rab
Speaker 3: before I to Argentina for an event and a gain
Speaker 3: there the first week back after I had won, and
Speaker 3: my buddy bought me a flight into New Orleans and
Speaker 3: they went out in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: And I was out practicing at the TBC down there.
Speaker 1: I just it's nice that, you know, if I wanted
Speaker 1: to go somewhere and need to go do something, I
Speaker 1: can always find a place to go practice, which is
Speaker 1: it's just good.
Speaker 2: Do you guys get access to the private ones too?
Speaker 1: Uh? Private?
Speaker 2: Like the private tPCS because I know some of them
Speaker 2: are private clubs.
Speaker 1: In a sense, like yeah, yeah, I know, I'm you
Speaker 1: get yeah.
Speaker 2: Because like Boston is a is a private one and
Speaker 2: I think I don't know where else are They've got
Speaker 2: a handful of privates.
Speaker 3: So any any of them that are on the list,
Speaker 3: if you remember, they just usually you show up, and
Speaker 3: especially the ones that aren't Sawgrass or Scottsdale, you show
Speaker 3: up and you are because a lot of times there's
Speaker 3: not one other guy out there, you know, like if
Speaker 3: you go to Boston or you know, summer and like
Speaker 3: you go out there, there might be four guys and
Speaker 3: they literally set you up in a locker, give you
Speaker 3: a locker and everything first class.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's pretty nice.
Speaker 2: Being a country club member without any of the dues, right.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Well, you played.
Speaker 3: You paid plenty of dues paying the PGA tour of
Speaker 3: a Q school, So yeah, you pay in the travel,
Speaker 3: you're paying, You're paying dues.
Speaker 1: Just so you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you'll you'll play a Q school this year,
Speaker 2: and obviously that's that's a big event with status, right,
Speaker 2: just getting the higher priority.
Speaker 1: Right, So I'm going to get a few starts. I
Speaker 1: could get anywhere from three to eight starts.
Speaker 3: I could get all eight off of my status out
Speaker 3: of Canada, possibly because it's changed a little bit this year.
Speaker 1: But if i go to Q school and win Q School,
Speaker 1: then I'm a full member.
Speaker 2: I'm in everything.
Speaker 3: And ten is like twelve I think or something like that,
Speaker 3: or half the year, you know, and then top forty
Speaker 3: five gets the first eight no matter what. So it
Speaker 3: and it's you're playing for fifty k. You know, it's
Speaker 3: more money than I've been playing for all year. So
Speaker 3: it's like, you gotta I'm definitely not gonna pass with
Speaker 3: my chance like that. And it's and those first aid
Speaker 3: on the web dot com are just so important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and there a lot of them are down
Speaker 2: in your uh, in your comfort zone down in Latin America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's pretty good. That is the main
Speaker 1: reason I went to Latin over Canada.
Speaker 3: Actually, you have a little bit better status if you
Speaker 3: play down there and finish in the five because every
Speaker 3: Latin America start you're in no matter what, your number
Speaker 3: doesn't have to get called, like you're automatically in as
Speaker 3: through sponsor invite for those.
Speaker 1: Latin America starts. If you've got in the top five
Speaker 1: the Lo Cinko down in Latin America, so you're better
Speaker 1: than Canada a little bit.
Speaker 2: You're in the Lo Cinco right now. Right if if
Speaker 2: it ended no no, no.
Speaker 1: No no, I'm I'm like, I think I'm like eleven
Speaker 1: now like eleven.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably never it's never happened before. But
Speaker 2: what if you've finished. What if you went down in
Speaker 2: there and played and you were top five and go
Speaker 2: and Canada. I feel like that should get full exemption.
Speaker 1: I feel like it should too. But it wouldn't knowing
Speaker 1: the pKa s or that wouldn't happen. So but I
Speaker 1: would just play out of whatever category was better, and
Speaker 1: it'd be funny because probably if I if I do
Speaker 1: go deck down there, something crazy happens and I went
Speaker 1: again down there. I guess it's not so crazy at
Speaker 1: this point. But if I went again down there and
Speaker 1: get finished in the five down there and then the
Speaker 1: five up there, and then I go to Q School.
Speaker 1: It could be funny. Then I go to Q School
Speaker 1: and if I say I won Q School, I would
Speaker 1: just all everything I did all year just really wouldn't
Speaker 1: have mattered as long as I finished in the top
Speaker 1: ten in the one Q School because those two category
Speaker 1: numbers wouldn't even matter. I'd just play out of my
Speaker 1: my full status category. So whatever category I have the
Speaker 1: best number from, that's what That's what you play on there.
Speaker 1: That's how I do it.
Speaker 2: I know it's tough because there's so many web guys
Speaker 2: that you know, struggle to get starts, but like I'm
Speaker 2: really surprised that there isn't more movement ability from Latin
Speaker 2: America and Canada mid year. Like I think a perfect
Speaker 2: example is Dan McCarthy last year, who won what is
Speaker 2: it for Canadian.
Speaker 1: Tour events, crazy crazy good year and you.
Speaker 2: Know he I think he was top five in the
Speaker 2: first start of the year and he got injured this
Speaker 2: year and I know he lost his car, so he's
Speaker 2: back at Q school, you know, one year after winning
Speaker 2: four events. But like it's a it's such an interesting
Speaker 2: golf story in the sense of like this guy red
Speaker 2: hot and they injured. I think I want to say
Speaker 2: his thumb and he couldn't play basically all year, and
Speaker 2: when he came back it was so late in the season.
Speaker 2: It's you know, like it's a shame because that guy,
Speaker 2: you get him up on the Web. There's no question
Speaker 2: that he the golf level golf. He was playing like that,
Speaker 2: it's going to translate to the next level. And it's
Speaker 2: too bad when somebody wins like it. You know, you
Speaker 2: win three times on the Web, you're up to the
Speaker 2: up to the the PGA two automatically, like and you
Speaker 2: won three times.
Speaker 4: On the developmental tours to the Web, and those three
Speaker 4: wins should get you a spot up there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I can essentially get three starts next year.
Speaker 3: If I go to final stage and don't play well
Speaker 3: and I get my number, only gets called out of
Speaker 3: Canada three times in the first eight events and I
Speaker 3: miss three cuts, then I could not get to start
Speaker 3: the rest of the year. It's a chance I could
Speaker 3: not get to start the rest of the year. And
Speaker 3: that that's a little it's a little crazy, but you
Speaker 3: know they've built it that way. And in your first
Speaker 3: year on any tour.
Speaker 2: You always have to play well. You always have to
Speaker 2: play well well.
Speaker 1: Just you have you have to play so much better
Speaker 1: your first year than you have to play any other
Speaker 1: year on tours, just like the PGA Tour, you just
Speaker 1: don't get any of the you know, just don't get
Speaker 1: any You don't guarantee the lot of spots unless you,
Speaker 1: you know, finish number one of the money list, and
Speaker 1: you know, you just you have to take, you know,
Speaker 1: take your starts and play well. And you know, once
Speaker 1: you keep your card on each on any tour, the
Speaker 1: next year you're in every event. That's that's when life
Speaker 1: gets easy. That's when you can you know, if you
Speaker 1: have to play forty weeks or whatever it is you
Speaker 1: have to play every single week that year to keep
Speaker 1: your card, you can't, but you have that option. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't get twenty starts twenty two starts, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get to play the courses the second
Speaker 2: time around, so there's familiarity and you know comfort. I
Speaker 2: think that's one of one of the toughest things with
Speaker 2: being a PGA Tour rookie is like you're going to
Speaker 2: a tour and you're playing against guys that have played
Speaker 2: at a tour stop for tense or eight years, and
Speaker 2: you're playing the golf course for the first time, you know,
Speaker 2: staying in the town for the first time, and it's
Speaker 2: it's tough. It's it is. You know, golf is definitely
Speaker 2: a sport. It's quite different than like football, where football,
Speaker 2: like being a veteran's like the worst thing ever. I
Speaker 2: guess you're going to get booted by a young, cheaper contract,
Speaker 2: but golf being a veteran is extremely advantageous. So you know,
Speaker 2: the one event I think you should play is Argentina Open.
Speaker 2: You can get spot in the British Open or Open Championship.
Speaker 3: No, that one, That one's I'm probably gonna go down
Speaker 3: for that two week stretch in Argentina. That was actually
Speaker 3: where I'm almost in lou Han the week before that
Speaker 3: Argentina Opened. It was the first win I almost had
Speaker 3: and kind of when my whole career changed. Late that year,
Speaker 3: I started playing a lot better, made every cut that
Speaker 3: second half of the year except for one, I think
Speaker 3: in Latin last year, and I had a chance to
Speaker 3: win an argent Argentina and I shot seventy three on
Speaker 3: Saturday just because I hadn't been in that I was
Speaker 3: leading after two rounds and I just had never been
Speaker 3: in that situation in a long time on a good
Speaker 3: you know, in a four round event, you know, playing
Speaker 3: you know, on a good tour with good players, and
Speaker 3: I shot seventy three on Saturday and just literally just
Speaker 3: hurt myself all day long mentally, just was just doing
Speaker 3: things that I don't normally do.
Speaker 1: And you know, I went back and rec that night.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna play great tomorrow, like I
Speaker 1: know what I need to do. You know, my game
Speaker 1: was good, and we get.
Speaker 3: Washed out on Sunday, don't even play and I finished
Speaker 3: temp and I end up losing my card on the
Speaker 3: Latin A Marcasram last year by like a few hundred
Speaker 3: dollars Jesus, And it was, you know, it was it
Speaker 3: was tough for me, Like, it was really tough for
Speaker 3: me to for that, you know, for it to get
Speaker 3: almost taken from me. I went, you know, went from
Speaker 3: leading the tournament to shooting seventy three Indian I think
Speaker 3: it was three shots off the lead, but in tenth
Speaker 3: place because it was real longchamp and you know, that
Speaker 3: was a lot difference in money, and it was just like.
Speaker 1: It was super frustrating.
Speaker 3: And then I had some family stuff happen the next
Speaker 3: week and I missed the cut in the Argentine Open.
Speaker 3: You know, but that was kind of when my career
Speaker 3: really changed and turned, and I really felt it turning,
Speaker 3: and I knew this year was going to be a
Speaker 3: good year.
Speaker 1: I told my dad this funny this beginning of this year.
Speaker 1: I'd never said this before.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I'm getting better, like it
Speaker 3: should be a good year. But I literally told him
Speaker 3: right after I missed the cutting Bogata about one after
Speaker 3: I had to go Monday in because I had bad
Speaker 3: status from Q School in Latin America.
Speaker 1: I said, Pat, I said, Pops, this is this is it.
Speaker 1: This is my year. It's gonna be my breakout yere Like,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, it's gonna be my breakout year,
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna be doing something different next year. I said, like,
Speaker 1: because if as well as I'm playing, if I don't
Speaker 1: break out this year, then I'm not going to. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I played kind of crummy for a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks and the next couple of starts, and then
Speaker 1: how Dura's happened, and then pretty much from then on,
Speaker 1: I've just been open the flukings since I went in Honduras,
Speaker 1: and so it's it's been crazy.
Speaker 2: It's interesting what you said about the hon Duras when
Speaker 2: and how you're sick and you know how you and
Speaker 2: I had a sports psychologist on the podcast a couple
Speaker 2: of months ago, and I talked about how, like I
Speaker 2: noticed a lot of my really great rounds come, like
Speaker 2: you know, I meddled and went to the semis in
Speaker 2: like our mid Am Mash play last year, and it
Speaker 2: came after a weekend I was in a wedding and
Speaker 2: I spent zero time practicing. I think I'm still hungover
Speaker 2: on Monday morning when we played, and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: because you had zero expectations, like and usually great things
Speaker 2: happen when you have this sensation like versus like you know,
Speaker 2: being uber prepared and like playing you know, practicing a ton.
Speaker 2: And there's a weird thing with golf where I think,
Speaker 2: if you you don't I mean, obviously you don't expect something,
Speaker 2: you go out there a little bit more free. And
Speaker 2: it sounds like that's kind of what happened in Honduras
Speaker 2: where you it probably was the week you least expected it,
Speaker 2: given the circumstances of being sick and everything yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Wasn't killing that will in Guatemala, and it was kind
Speaker 1: of the sickness was coming on. And I remember getting
Speaker 1: catching a flight when I went through from Honduras, but
Speaker 1: or Guatemala because the window lays and we got washed out. Anyways,
Speaker 1: but I left so I could.
Speaker 3: Go get in the monday because I wasn't in the
Speaker 3: tournament in Honduras yet, Oh my god, on Sunday, so
Speaker 3: I went drawn and I fly into because I was
Speaker 3: gonna I was gonna have to play good to make
Speaker 3: the cut. Fly in and I get there and I
Speaker 3: get in on the number, and I remember like when
Speaker 3: I was got there and I found out I was in,
Speaker 3: I was gonna go play nine, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not even gonna go out there today,
Speaker 3: Like I don't feel good.
Speaker 1: I go to bed that night, wake up the next
Speaker 1: day and I'm just like can't move almost like like
Speaker 1: body feels terrible. Hardly hit any shots that week, and.
Speaker 3: I remember playing pretty good and getting nothing out of
Speaker 3: my rounds, and I was like, what a week to
Speaker 3: finally play good and I'm sick, like like I like,
Speaker 3: I'm playing well this week and I'm sick and all
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about is being sick, and I don't even
Speaker 3: really care where, you know, how prepared I am or
Speaker 3: anything like, if I could have been feeling good, I
Speaker 3: would have had a great week. I was thinking that
Speaker 3: on literally on Friday, in the middle of my round,
Speaker 3: and I make a birdie putt for twelve feet.
Speaker 1: On the thirty sixth hole to make the cut on
Speaker 1: the number and to go out first on Saturday. Then
Speaker 1: that changed my whole life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that changed that everything go first and played fast
Speaker 3: and didn't have to wait, and I'm a quick player.
Speaker 1: Shot sixty one. That changed my life. It's funny how
Speaker 1: things in life happened. And you know that one thing
Speaker 1: can can change the way you think, and you know,
Speaker 1: and when I shot sixty one, I believed I could win,
Speaker 1: And the wind kicked up that afternoon as soon as
Speaker 1: I finished. It was a perfect storm. And guys didn't
Speaker 1: play that good in the afternoon. The leaders and you know,
Speaker 1: I held held on Sunday, and you know, now I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here now in Portugal like the Portugal Masters. So
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's just a domino effect.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. So in terms of what would you have done,
Speaker 2: if you had had quit, if it hadn't worked out
Speaker 2: this year, I got.
Speaker 1: A buddy that lives in New York City. I got
Speaker 1: a pretty good backup plan. He he owns his own
Speaker 1: company in New York City.
Speaker 3: We grew up together. He's he's one of my best friends,
Speaker 3: if not my best friend. And I grew visit him
Speaker 3: like my vacation. Everyone's like, you can go to the beach.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm going to New York City and
Speaker 1: then go see my buddy and then we're gonna go out.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's you know, ten degrees up in New York City
Speaker 3: and we just go out, go up there, go out
Speaker 3: every night. He knows everybody, you know, see the city.
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 3: I like New York City. It's my favorite places to go.
Speaker 3: And and he's like, has like a recruiting company, and
Speaker 3: that's that's where I was. Edited was headed to go
Speaker 3: to New York City. Uh, you know, he said, I
Speaker 3: always got a spot. But he tells, he tells me,
Speaker 3: now if I quit, I'm an idiot.
Speaker 2: Son didn't know.
Speaker 1: He don't know if I have a job.
Speaker 2: If I quit now, man Zuma's revenge was the turning point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It's it's funny how things like that happened, and how
Speaker 3: I had a conversation with my guy room with Tim O'Neill,
Speaker 3: who's been on and off the nationwide tour in the
Speaker 3: wood dot Com Tour and it's won a lot down
Speaker 3: in Latin America.
Speaker 1: And I asked him.
Speaker 3: I was like, what's your best advice for Sunday? Nothing crazy?
Speaker 3: I don't meaning crazy. What's your best advice? He said,
Speaker 3: past the patient say you're playing great, stay patient, don't
Speaker 3: do anything crazy.
Speaker 1: Don't do anything crazy because you think you have to
Speaker 1: go win this golf turn because you don't just stay patient.
Speaker 1: And I stay patient all day long. And yeah, stay
Speaker 1: pagion all day long.
Speaker 3: And and make the first time I think got ever
Speaker 3: going boogie free at three under. Usually I'm you know,
Speaker 3: I shoot five six seven under if I go bogie free.
Speaker 1: And I went bogie free at at three under par
Speaker 1: and slid into that playoff and you know the rest
Speaker 1: is history.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome. A patients is that's good advice for
Speaker 2: all of life. So we do a underrated overrated segment.
Speaker 2: It's just quick. Yeah, we'll do like three of them.
Speaker 2: You just say overrated, underrated, and you can explain if
Speaker 2: you want to or not. First one we're gonna do
Speaker 2: is the Safari hat versus the bucket. You know, you know,
Speaker 2: the bigger, the longer one.
Speaker 1: Mine's a Safari hat pretty much.
Speaker 2: It looks like think it was a hybrid almost.
Speaker 1: Maybe it might be a hybrid.
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure, but it's it's close, it's pretty big,
Speaker 3: it's really big.
Speaker 2: So there's gonna be underrated alternative hats, I guess is
Speaker 2: the is the way to go. Oh they're underrated, Yeah,
Speaker 2: super underrated. Under it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unbelievable. They're underrated and they need more love.
Speaker 1: I don't know everyone's then. I've been wearing the snapbacks
Speaker 1: just because.
Speaker 2: I don't have the bucket. The next question we'll go
Speaker 2: with is uh is is food and in Latin and
Speaker 2: South America.
Speaker 1: Overrated?
Speaker 6: Overrated for sure, for sure overrated. So the best spots Mexico.
Speaker 6: I love text backs, but the Metacos are unbelievable.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite spot of all of it. They love
Speaker 1: they eat too much beef, like it's unbelievable. All they
Speaker 1: do is eat steak and like eleven thirty at night.
Speaker 2: That's all they do Winter Argentina a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: for like two weeks. It's nuts. How much steak?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so much steak and it's really good and
Speaker 1: it's amazing beef.
Speaker 3: And after your second meal of beef and eleven PM,
Speaker 3: you're like, I never want to eat beef again. I
Speaker 3: don't want this, Like I want something else other than this.
Speaker 3: You can't even get chicken. They look at you like
Speaker 3: you're stupid, like you have four heads if you ask
Speaker 3: for chicken.
Speaker 2: This other thing that's crazy is like eleven thirty. It's
Speaker 2: like dinner time.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, they restaurants have to open early,
Speaker 1: and we'll come to town. They'll call at your restaurants
Speaker 1: and ask them to open at a normal hour. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then like they have to make plans.
Speaker 2: When we're coming through Ohn And then, uh, what about poutine?
Speaker 2: Overrated and underrated?
Speaker 1: Mmm?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: If I've had good poutine, you don't care. I would
Speaker 1: say over eighty. I had it at a club and
Speaker 1: I was really turned off by I had it in
Speaker 1: Winnipeg my first week up there, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this isn't that good. I'm not that happy with it.
Speaker 1: But I've never had it anywhere else, so that was
Speaker 1: probably my mistake. Honestly. I didn't have it like a
Speaker 1: good shot, but the one at the Country Winnipeg, it
Speaker 1: was not very good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Canadians are going to be mad at you.
Speaker 1: I love Canada. I'll only give them a shout out
Speaker 1: because Canada. Canada was an amazing place for me. But
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not. I'm not all about the proutine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll get a guaranteed start or you didn't. Did
Speaker 2: you get started at RBC You weren't in the top five.
Speaker 1: I hadn't. Yeah, I was. I finished sixth in Winnipeg,
Speaker 1: and I would have if I would have won in
Speaker 1: thunder Bay, I would have got a start. And I
Speaker 1: was leading on Saturday with like nine holes left at
Speaker 1: thirteen under the winning score, had a big lead on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and I blew up. It was it was. It was
Speaker 1: one of my more epic finishes in the golf tournament.
Speaker 1: But I imploded pretty much and finished thirtieth that week.
Speaker 1: It was. My buddy still makes fun of me about it.
Speaker 1: It was just complete implosion, just lost my mind and
Speaker 1: uh and uh yeah, And so I ended up not
Speaker 1: getting that Star. I thought I was gonna get that story.
Speaker 1: I got way in myself. I'm gonna get into RBC.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win the RBC, Like IM killing it right now,
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and then I should finish thirty. It
Speaker 1: was so funny.
Speaker 2: That's fun It happens to me all the time. And
Speaker 2: like USGA qualifiers. As I start thinking about like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play in this this mid AM or this
Speaker 2: USM or whatever it is, I'm like, I start thinking
Speaker 2: about the golf course and then next thing I know,
Speaker 2: like I played three holes five over and I'm like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: it's nice to last. But the U the one time
Speaker 2: I didn't have that happen was I ended up burning
Speaker 2: the last three of my last four to get in
Speaker 2: and I didn't think I had a chance, And it
Speaker 2: was just like I was like, it was perfect because
Speaker 2: I didn't have time to just shit all over myself.
Speaker 1: I said, the literally the best thing that ever happened
Speaker 1: to me when I got sixty one was well, I
Speaker 1: got to the last toy. It was the easiest home
Speaker 1: in golf course eighteen and Audult, this is the easiest
Speaker 1: home on golf course each part five and I'm the
Speaker 1: hardest hole on the golf course. I hold like an
Speaker 1: eight footer after chopping it all up and down it
Speaker 1: when I was at nine under and I was like,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I can shoot fifty nigh and
Speaker 1: then I.
Speaker 2: Just my head.
Speaker 1: My head just imploded. It just exploded. And and I
Speaker 1: and I make make an eight footer and I get
Speaker 1: to the last hole, and uh, and I just would
Speaker 1: just like, just get it anywhere around the green and
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it on the front fringe,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I don't need a three footer
Speaker 1: right now for sixty one, I mean for sixty two.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't need it. And I just
Speaker 1: bashing out of the front fringe from forty feet and
Speaker 1: it goes in, and I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that this is over. I ran out
Speaker 1: of holes to mess it up, and I was about
Speaker 1: to mess it up. That's literally what I when I
Speaker 1: told my buddy, I said, I was gonna mess it up,
Speaker 1: but I had to play a couple more holes.
Speaker 2: That's uh. I was playing the Midham the US Madam
Speaker 2: last year and I on my second round, I birdied
Speaker 2: ten and I was like I was like three clear
Speaker 2: of the number for match play, and I'm like, all right, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're in match play. Like if I get hot masters,
Speaker 2: you know, this is what's going through my head, Like
Speaker 2: and literally the next hole is the easiest hole on
Speaker 2: the golf course. The drive the fairway is like one
Speaker 2: hundred yards wide, and I hit it into the ship.
Speaker 2: I was just like unbelieve, like you know, of all
Speaker 2: the things I make like a double and I'm like,
Speaker 2: then I just start grinding. Just sure enough. I had
Speaker 2: too many holes. Yeah, I I needed that last hole
Speaker 2: to be done. But it's funny how golf is so
Speaker 2: uh yeah, well, we'll be rooting for you in Portugal
Speaker 2: and uh keep let us know where you're where you're
Speaker 2: going next and we'll be uh got a new person
Speaker 2: to favorite on the on the PGA Tour app.
Speaker 1: Sounds good. I'm excited. I've enjoyed this. This was this
Speaker 1: was a cool experience and h it's great to meet
Speaker 1: here and you know, hopefully and hopefully you won't stay
Speaker 1: in touch and and talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll tee it up in Florida this winter when
Speaker 2: you're down.
Speaker 1: Definitely definitely sounds good.
Speaker 2: Alright, man, have a good one all right yeah, peace
Speaker 2: m hm.