1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Danny and Samantha and welcome to Steph. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: I never told you production of I Heart Radio. Well 3 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: hello Annie, happy Monday. Yes we are recording on a Monday, 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: so happy Monday to you as well. But that means 5 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: we're a little to Yes, yes, we have discovered as 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: we have been attempting to record this for the last 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: three minutes, we may be a little tired and or 8 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: really have the mondays I said it, But today we 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: want to go ahead and put a time step on 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: this because not necessarily anything's going to change, but there's 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: actually a lot happening with this specific woman that we're 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: about to talk to for our edition of Women around 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: the World. That sounded weird, That was not the theme. 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to ignore that. But anyway, it is March 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: twenty two, two in one, and though she has already 16 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: made pretty big impression in the world and in just 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: science in general and history, we want to put this 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: caveat in here because I had a lot of articles 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: coming out about her project. If you're paying attention to 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: what she's doing, so that's fun time stamping it. And 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: yes we will tell you it is in just a minute. 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: But first Annie, I have a question for you. I 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: already know this answer, but it's a two parter, so 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: the second part I feel like I already know the 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: things because I think we've talked about it before. But 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: when go ahead and jump in here? Ay, were you 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: a huge fan of movies like Indiana Jones? Actually the 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: answer to that is interesting because I've always seen those 29 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: movies of once each okay, and I can't recall really 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: why I didn't go into them more because I loved, 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: as you all know, the mommy, right, I don't Yeah, 32 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know why. I was just like, 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm more into the Star Wars lane 34 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: than if I got to choose the hair some forward 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: is that was Oh Holly Fry, who is also the 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: big Star Wars fan. One of the times that I 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: had gone out with her during our adventures in any 38 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: of the Disney Wordland Disney World locations, we went to 39 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: one of the Indiana Jones theme ones, and when I 40 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: could not name anything and she could pointed out things, 41 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: she looked really sad. Oh yeah, I've seen that look. Yeah, 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: And she was just like like the little sick and 43 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: just like Samantha Samantha and that's all she said. So okay, 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: I feel better knowing that you were maybe in the 45 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: same spot as me. But here's the second part of 46 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: that question. Anything with like the Mummy and obviously again 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: with Indiana Jones. Did you ever have any experiences and 48 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: or any fantasies of being someone who is in the 49 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: archaeology world or in that history, Discovery world, adventure world. 50 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think I was born to like this 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: is different, but to me were um in my kid brain, 52 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: I was more into like healontology and like Sassil's like 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: dinosaurs and finding stuff like that, and I had like 54 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: a little kid for uh, like we spoke about one 55 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: of our recent classics. I would go out in the 56 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: woods and I'd find like one time I found this 57 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: mailbox and I was like unearthing it as if it 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: was some kind of ancient That's awesome. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, 59 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: So we had an experience in our I guess middle 60 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: school elementary school a time frame. They had this whole 61 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: like initiative going on trying to bring in these kids 62 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: that was remained together for the next three years and 63 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: learning different things. And one of our big projects was 64 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: actually doing an archaeological dig site behind the school playground, 65 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: and we actually discovered a village, a small Native American village, 66 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: to the point that we got to see synthesist because 67 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: we found like poll marks, and we found all of 68 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: this pottery shards, and we found all these like arrowheads 69 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: and weapons, and it was a true small town bill 70 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: It's like we found where all the posts were, where 71 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: the homes were. And then we had to keep it 72 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: for several years because several archaeologists came out and helped 73 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: dig up the site. And so because of this, it 74 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: was really sad because we worked on this so hard. 75 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: It was such an amazing project. I will never forget it. 76 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: They transferred our small class to a different location to 77 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: start up another location to see if we could find 78 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: more stuff, and of course it wasn't as cool. We 79 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: found things, but not a town, not a small like 80 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: area living area. So I was very sad and we 81 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: got taking off that project. But it was one of 82 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: the most like what moments when we started finding all 83 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: of these amazing items and things and finding out that 84 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: we actually were sitting on something really historical and sad 85 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: because of course, our relationships with the Native America's were 86 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: really sad because they were killed and or pushed out. 87 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: So a lot of really sad things, but cool things 88 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: at the same time because you're discovering all these things. Yeah, 89 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons we are talking about this 90 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: specific woman and we're talking about Dr Ruth Sheddy or 91 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: Ruth Sheddy Solis, who is a Peruvian archaeologist and anthropologists 92 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: and overall bad ass. So if you have a minute 93 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: to go look at her work, it is a phenomenal 94 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: that Sheddy was born in kal Yah, Peru and has 95 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: always had this love of the world of archaeology, so 96 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: again kind of like fostered into her. And in one 97 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: interview she actually talks about visiting different archaeological sites as 98 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: a child with our father, and she talked about really 99 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: honing in and deciding this is going to be my 100 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: career at the age of like eight or nine, because 101 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: her dad not only took her to the sizes, but 102 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: would gift her and her siblings books of all this 103 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: historical context and him having this love for archaeology and history, 104 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: her father influenced them with again his own love for 105 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: history and discovering older cultures. And I believe he moved 106 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: to Peru with the family and in talking about how 107 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: Peru was the center of civilization for them, so it 108 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: wasn't really interesting to see all this history as she 109 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: was talking about her own childhood and why she loves 110 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: what she loves, right and yeah. Shaddy studied both archaeology 111 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: and anthropology, as well as pedagogy and Lima at San 112 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: Marcos University, where she became a teacher and is currently 113 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: Vice Dean of Research at the Faculty of Social Sciences. 114 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: She has been the head of many projects, including projects 115 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: in Marenga, Lima and Baghua, Amazonists and some others. And 116 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: though these projects are interesting, what she's currently being celebrated 117 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: for is her work with the korl sup As Special 118 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: Archaeological Project. She is currently the director of the many 119 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: research teams at the Choral Archaeological Site or the Choral 120 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: Archaeological Zone. And just in case you didn't know, because 121 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: I definitely didn't, that Korral is known as the first 122 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: civilization of the entire American continent and is located several 123 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: miles outside of Peru and the civilization and has dated 124 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: back five thousand years, which is two thousand years older 125 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: than the Mayan civilization, but her road to discovering and 126 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: preserving the civilization was along and is actually a long battle, 127 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: which started in nineteen seventy eight when she visited that area, 128 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: but wasn't until nineteen that she and a team of 129 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: four others started working at that site. And not surprisingly, 130 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: she went through her share of disappointments and hope throughout 131 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: the project, and she talked about all the difficult conditions, 132 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: support from the government some of the times, and being 133 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: ignored by the government and oftentimes her own colleagues. As 134 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: some suggested her theories of the large civilization was just 135 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: quote an exaggeration, right. The coral civilization is fascinating because, 136 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: unlike so many other discovered civilizations, this was not a 137 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: warlike society um as there were no traces of weapons 138 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: or defensive walls within the city. The civilization was covered 139 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: by gravel and pebbles before it was abandoned, which helped 140 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: preserve the area. They were also seemingly ahead of our 141 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: times they maintained gender equality. During the dig, they discovered 142 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: remains of a woman dated four thousand, six hundred years ago, 143 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: and she was apparently all jacked out. They discovered a 144 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: shell necklace bone, broaches and blankets made of cotton and 145 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: other materials. Shaddy stated, we can interpret that some four thousand, 146 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: six hundred years before President, women had already reached significant 147 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: positions in society. The brooches, in particular, carved into bird 148 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: and monkey designs, point to quote a woman of prestige, right. 149 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: And along with those discoveries they also found flutes and 150 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: all these instruments. So it must have been a very 151 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: artistic world in civilization, which I want to be a 152 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: part of. But when talking about her works in regards 153 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: to Korral, she talked about the significance of how the 154 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: discovery could impact the local community um and she stayed, quote, 155 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: we wanted these people to identify with the heritage and 156 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: accepted as there's as a source of identity and cohesion. 157 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: She worked with the community by organizing a participative workshop 158 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: to promote integral sustainable development, and she spoke of the 159 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: significance of the project overall, stating quote, the worldwide response 160 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: to the values of Chorrel civilization has encouraged us. So 161 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: has our ability to convey to current and feature societies 162 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: the importance of peaceful social interactions between people with different cultures. 163 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: And languages who exchange resources, products, experiences, and knowledge produced 164 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: in the Indian territory, which is itself immensely varied. This 165 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: intercultural relationship favored back cut al social system enabled it 166 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: to develop very early in the northern central area of Peru. 167 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: This is a valuable message for modern society as nowadays 168 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: military action and behavior are still ubiquitous, which is entirely counterproductive. 169 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: Of the millions of years of human evolution and the 170 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: six thousand years of establishing complex civilizations, we have failed 171 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: to strengthen our human identity and preserving living conditions on Earth. 172 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: We need to reflect on this to avoid exterminating ourselves. 173 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: And of course I'm also thrilled to be able to 174 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: improve the quality of life of the populations around Choral 175 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: and train archaeologists with a different vision who can appreciate 176 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: the day of our social reality of Peru and not 177 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: unlike Indiana Jones, she has gone through some trauma and 178 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: danger between having threats made against her by what is 179 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: being reported as squatters, but seems to be a more 180 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: a deeper conflict with people who are trying to claim 181 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: the area to develop the land, and so they may 182 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: be destroying the site out of hate. Some of the 183 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: sites have been destroyed and some of the mummies and 184 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: items have been destroyed, legal battles from former colleagues who 185 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: have tried to claim her work or leave her out 186 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: in documentation, and even being shot in early two thousand's 187 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: on the site, and the land was declared a UNESCO 188 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: World Heritage Site in two thousan nine, by the way, 189 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: and she's currently experiencing a lot of pressure and threats 190 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: from those squatters, which are believed to be made up 191 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: of those who are claiming that they were given the 192 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: land in the nineteen seventies. And not only has she 193 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: and her team in receiving thoughts, but people who are 194 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: involved as the legal visors, and even the possibility of 195 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: her dog being poisoned as a threat. When we say poison, 196 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: they killed their dog. So it's it's pretty intense, and 197 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: there has been a lot of support by many academics 198 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: and those in the historical world, in science world, with 199 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: petitions and letters being sent out to the government for 200 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: her and her team's protection. Today, I know right now 201 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: there are so many articles coming out about what's happening 202 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: there because there has been an all out threat against 203 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: her as well. As the actual exclavation site, they're having 204 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: to have police protection around it and all of these things. 205 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: And there's also a question about why haven't they been found, 206 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: why haven't they been arrested at this point, because you 207 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: kind of know what's going on, and there seems to be, 208 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: of course, a lot of money involved in this conversation. 209 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: Who has the rights to what um? And of course 210 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: she is working to preserve it, so for those who 211 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: want to develop the land to sell it kind of 212 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: puts a kink in their plan. So does feel like 213 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: a straight out mystery or a straight out suspense thriller? Right? No? Me? Okay, 214 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: maybe it's just me. Her work is being celebrated as 215 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: she continues to make history. She's been named BBC's Top 216 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: Women two thousand eighteens Loreal UNESCO's National Prize for Women 217 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: in Science. She was given the Medal of Honor of 218 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: the Congress of the Republic of Peru as well. And 219 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: obviously we are talking about what she's done and continues 220 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: to do, and her love and passion and preserving history 221 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: and bringing things to light. She hasn't talked about how 222 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: as a woman in this field has been a struggle, 223 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: but how persevering and being able to fight for what 224 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: you know has been there. So she's known that something 225 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: has been there since nineteen seventy four and has fought 226 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: for it, and then it was actually celebrating in the 227 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: two thousands. So that's badass, yes, but as very badass indeed, 228 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: and continues to be. So we'll see what happens in 229 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: the meantime. If you have any suggestions listeners for women 230 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: we should cover in this segment, you can email us 231 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: or email stuff Media mom Stuff at iHeart media dot com. 232 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at mom Stuff Podcast 233 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: or on Instagram and stuff one ever told you I 234 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: thinks it's always to our super producer Christina, thank you 235 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: not asked me and thanks to you for listening. 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