Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the
Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm.
Speaker 3: Strong and Jetty and now he.
Speaker 2: Arms Strong and Yetty.
Speaker 1: Eighty five year old Motown Legends Smokey Robinson has been
Speaker 1: accused of sexual assault by four of his former housekeepers.
Speaker 1: Robinson plans to beat the charges by being dead soon.
Speaker 3: That was funny.
Speaker 2: He has a point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no kidding those of you who like flavored coffee.
Speaker 4: So I'm out of my good my coffee. That's like coffee,
Speaker 4: flavored coffee, which is what I think coffee should taste like.
Speaker 4: And the worst part is you lose the smell. I'm
Speaker 4: making my coffee and it didn't smell coffee, which is
Speaker 4: one of the greatest smells in the history of the world.
Speaker 4: It smelled like chocolate or hazelin or something.
Speaker 2: What the hell? What is wrong with you people?
Speaker 1: Gum staunchly anti flavored coffee? I say, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: You're wrong, deeply wrong. If you like flavored coffee characters flawed.
Speaker 1: I do want it to another thing you may or
Speaker 1: may not be wrong about. We're getting a face from Katie.
Speaker 1: Why are you flavored copp Well, you're a girl.
Speaker 5: No, I like my coffee black. But says the guy
Speaker 5: who just put creamer in his what flavor was the
Speaker 5: creamer you put in your coffee?
Speaker 2: Like a week ago?
Speaker 3: Cream flavored cream face like cream like from a cow?
Speaker 2: You sure it wasn't almond berry?
Speaker 3: No, I don't do flavors. I don't do flavors strawberry
Speaker 3: whipped cream.
Speaker 2: It's whatever came out of the cow flavored. I do
Speaker 2: want to talk.
Speaker 3: About Mother's Day a little bit.
Speaker 4: I noticed yesterday there's two very divergent views on what
Speaker 4: Mother's Day, how it should be celebrated, and I just
Speaker 4: wondered where most people.
Speaker 3: Are on that.
Speaker 4: Also, I got to mention the teriff thing, the war
Speaker 4: with China, the terrif or with China's over. They they
Speaker 4: ended it, so the ninety day pause and and and
Speaker 4: I feel like it's probably just gonna stay that way.
Speaker 3: And so that whole thing. I'm ready for the historians.
Speaker 1: To write what we got out of it. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: crazy part is over. There's still some john to be done,
Speaker 1: in numbers to be set, and and you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm not quite as rosy as you are. I'm drinking
Speaker 1: the black coffee of reality. Here we still are an
Speaker 1: enormous trading partner with a malevolent communist power that seeks
Speaker 1: our destruction.
Speaker 2: So what about that part? Anyway?
Speaker 1: We will see going forward. I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: familiar with this. Trump has the White House, the Republicans
Speaker 1: have a White House, and in both houses of Congress
Speaker 1: at barely. But there's a midterm coming up. So what
Speaker 1: are the demo crats up to? A couple of interesting perspectives.
Speaker 1: Quoting a bit from the fabulous ally Bowls of the
Speaker 1: Free Press, she's highly amused that tariffs are now what
Speaker 1: she says is MAGA coded. They're code dead, they're associated
Speaker 1: with maga. So socialists are finally realizing that these are
Speaker 1: a bad idea to begin with. So suddenly everybody on
Speaker 1: the left is turning pro free trade and anti tariff.
Speaker 1: Complete flip Bernie Sanders saying it's a bit arrogant to say, well,
Speaker 1: maybe kids have too many toys and the price may
Speaker 1: go up a bit.
Speaker 2: I think billionaires like.
Speaker 1: Trump and Musk do not have a clue what it
Speaker 1: means for working class families. So all of a sudden, Bernie,
Speaker 1: who's been like pro labor and anti tariff his whole
Speaker 1: life for.
Speaker 2: Like free trade. Now it's funny, here's proff his whole life. Correct. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, he said anti So I just did he
Speaker 2: is now? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 1: So Bernie led a movement that fought hard against free
Speaker 1: trade for decades. Like his own Senate page, he literally
Speaker 1: says he has quote helped lead the effort against disastrous,
Speaker 1: unfettered free trade deals with China, Mexico, and other low
Speaker 1: wage countries. All we needed was one Trumpo, and every
Speaker 1: socialist in America's waxing poetic about cheap China made toys
Speaker 1: on Amazon and how they're the American dream.
Speaker 3: I love that man. About eight thousand pencils today on Amazon.
Speaker 4: I'm so excited about the good times, being back the
Speaker 4: gravy years, where you can have as many pencils and.
Speaker 3: Dolls as you wanted.
Speaker 2: So many dolls. I've assembled a doll Congress.
Speaker 1: I have four hundred and thirty five dollars that I
Speaker 1: call the House of Representatives, and then one hundred dollars
Speaker 1: I call the Senate, hundreds and hundreds of dollars.
Speaker 2: Then I have one giant doll.
Speaker 3: I call trump a pencil in their hand.
Speaker 2: That's right, please.
Speaker 1: So it's well known that the Democrats are out of
Speaker 1: power and out of sorts. Nobody knows what they believe in.
Speaker 1: They ran a mummy and then they realized that was
Speaker 1: a bad idea, so ran a dummy and he got
Speaker 1: trounced by Donald Jay and nobody knows what they stand for. Well,
Speaker 1: it's starting to take shape a little bit. Nelly Bowles
Speaker 1: Wrights my beloved technocrats. New York Times columnists and podcast
Speaker 1: hosts Ezra Kleine and data whiz David Shore have been
Speaker 1: tapped by Senate Democrats to be their special guests.
Speaker 2: That their annual retreat.
Speaker 1: Only a few years ago, David Shore was fired for
Speaker 1: posting data suggesting that the riots following MLK Junior's assassination
Speaker 1: likely tipped the nineteen sixty eight presidential election in Nixon's favor,
Speaker 1: and that was interpreted as a vai as a thinly
Speaker 1: veiled critique of the Black Lives Matter protests, So he
Speaker 1: was fired for that. So the fact that seven demo
Speaker 1: Senate Democrats are picking Klein in Shore, who left really
Speaker 1: tried to destroy because they were normal, indicates a massive,
Speaker 1: massive messaging shift is coming our way, sure enough.
Speaker 2: And then here's Gaviy Newsom.
Speaker 1: Last week we lost the popular vote, we lost the
Speaker 1: electoral vote. We got crushed, and we need to be
Speaker 1: humble about that, and we need to have some grace
Speaker 1: and we need to understand why was it because of immigration?
Speaker 1: Was it because we were too quote unquote woke?
Speaker 2: And then Pete.
Speaker 1: Boot Edge Edge sporting beard by the way, Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Pete's got a beard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's rocking a beard. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he's hitting up the manly podcasts too. He's appearing
Speaker 1: anywhere on the like Moderate to write manly men podcasts,
Speaker 1: the drink coffee. If you know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: do know precisely what you were saying.
Speaker 2: You're saying he's gay anyway, boot Edge Edge.
Speaker 1: So anyway, he said, it is so hard to build
Speaker 1: and do things in this country. And I lived this
Speaker 1: when I was at the Department of Transportation. Too much
Speaker 1: regulation standing in charge in the way of progress. And
Speaker 1: Nelly writes, that's the closest thing we've gotten to Ama
Speaker 1: Kulpa for Pete having seven and a half billion dollars
Speaker 1: installing a total of seven charging stations in two years.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to forgive you, Pete. I.
Speaker 4: I was listening to the Dispatch podcast last week and
Speaker 4: A had an interesting conversation and Sarah, I isger on there,
Speaker 4: said she's on ABC this week every week. But she said,
Speaker 4: and I think she's absolutely right. She said, in what
Speaker 4: sense are there political parties anymore?
Speaker 3: There aren't.
Speaker 4: I mean they wait for a personality to emerge and
Speaker 4: then they go with whatever that personality.
Speaker 3: Believes they don't have.
Speaker 4: So the Republican Party does what Trump is into now,
Speaker 4: but as soon as.
Speaker 3: He disappears from the scene, it will be as at
Speaker 3: see as.
Speaker 1: The Democrats are right now, who are waiting for somebody
Speaker 1: to emerge, and then they'll adopt whatever policies that person is.
Speaker 1: If it's Bernie, they'll be a Bernie person. If it's,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody more moderate, they'll adopt that person. But
Speaker 1: the parties aren't driving it. The personality that emerges is
Speaker 1: driving it. So there aren't really parties now. I've been
Speaker 1: resisting the temptation to get into the Medicare reform negotiations,
Speaker 1: which are making me insane. These so called moderate Republicans
Speaker 1: are just trying to somewhat cap the explosive growth in waste, fraud, abuse,
Speaker 1: and perversion of this medical medical you.
Speaker 2: Know, care for the you know, the poor and the
Speaker 2: old and the it's just expl it's exploded Medicaid too.
Speaker 1: But well with medicaid, you know, you got the federal
Speaker 1: government paying ninety percent of the bill for healthy, working
Speaker 1: aged males who are just too lazy to work. You've
Speaker 1: got them paying about a third for poverty stricken pregnant ladies.
Speaker 1: It's become so perverse and upside down. But the so
Speaker 1: called the moderate Republicans are saying, hey, we shouldn't crack
Speaker 1: down on this because it's it's real easy for them
Speaker 1: to portray us as mean, and so let's just keep
Speaker 1: letting it explode out of control. Now you got fiscal
Speaker 1: hawks saying, for God's sake, we got to do something
Speaker 1: about this. But the being shouted down in the Republican Party,
Speaker 1: I said to Jack, was it? I think it was
Speaker 1: verbally before the show, I said, the Republican Party doesn't
Speaker 1: stand for anything anymore. I have no idea what it is,
Speaker 1: neither party. It's funny you should bring that to us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's a personality's driven on both sides. Part
Speaker 4: of it is the way financing works now and all that,
Speaker 4: and in the air of Trump, you can have everybody
Speaker 4: bellowing from the same hymnal on the right.
Speaker 1: Then Trump changes his mind two weeks later, and then
Speaker 1: everybody's bellowing the opposite. Sure it's enough to make you
Speaker 1: a cuckoo nuts anyway, I love this.
Speaker 2: Back to kicking the Democrats who deserve it.
Speaker 1: Nelly Bowles in the Free Press brings up the project. Hey, La,
Speaker 1: you know what you're slack and listen to what Philly's doing.
Speaker 1: You think you can squander enormous amounts of money on
Speaker 1: practically nothing. Philadelphia has a project to build fifty seven
Speaker 1: units of affordable housing. So far, it's taken over six
Speaker 1: years and many many meetings and they still haven't even
Speaker 1: broken ground six years, tremendous amounts of money and haven't
Speaker 1: even stuck a shovel in the dirt on only fifty
Speaker 1: seven units. Anyway, Yes, yes, that's correct. And they're six
Speaker 1: years into the project, whatever that means. I guess I'm
Speaker 1: six years into my becoming an astronaut project too.
Speaker 2: Anyway, this is the punchline, folks.
Speaker 1: I went to the actual website to verify these numbers.
Speaker 1: They are, actually they are literally in print. The City
Speaker 1: of Pasadena, is it Pasadena? Yes, Pasadena, California is putting
Speaker 1: their electrical cables underground. There are a number of cities
Speaker 1: in California and around the country that do this. It
Speaker 1: helps maintain the reliability of electrical power during storms and
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. It also prevents you know, crappy
Speaker 1: polls from falling down or poorly secured wires from falling
Speaker 1: and igniting the underbrush and forests and causing horrific wildfires
Speaker 1: that kill many people and then ruin ruin many lives. Right, So,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of good reasons to put these
Speaker 1: electrical cables underground. The City of Pasadena's website estimates that
Speaker 1: it will take four hundred years to put their electrical
Speaker 1: cables underground. This is real quote. According to that construction timeline,
Speaker 1: Category two streets it's going to take Category one streets
Speaker 1: is the most important priority streets. According to the website,
Speaker 1: it will take one hundred years to put the power
Speaker 1: underground for the priority streets. One hundred years. Now, let
Speaker 1: me read from the website. Category two streets would be
Speaker 1: completed completed in approximately four hundred years. That's right, folks,
Speaker 1: it will take longer than America has existed to put
Speaker 1: electrical cables under the sidewalk. Progressives have decided that since
Speaker 1: getting things done is right wing coded, now we must
Speaker 1: remain completely still. We must put down our hammers and
Speaker 1: let the buildings around us slowly decay. We must embrace
Speaker 1: decay and death is the truest expression of what it
Speaker 1: means to be American, what it means to be human.
Speaker 1: Pasadena measures civic improvement projects in centuries like redwoods, like
Speaker 1: shark teeth, like.
Speaker 2: The wind, that's funist to god.
Speaker 1: The city website says, we're estimating it will take approximately
Speaker 1: four hundred years to complete the Phase two straits.
Speaker 4: And that's why there's an opening for that whole abundance
Speaker 4: Democrat movement that's catching on that we talked about on Friday.
Speaker 1: Right exactly, it's you know what, it's very blue doggie,
Speaker 1: or so it seems.
Speaker 2: In its early days.
Speaker 4: What is Mother's Day supposed to be? Came across two
Speaker 4: diverging opinions. I wanted to bring up and a bunch
Speaker 4: of other stuff on the waist here farm strong.
Speaker 6: Before ducklings rescued from a sewer drain in northern California,
Speaker 6: firefighters jumping into action after the mother duck quacked for
Speaker 6: somebody to help. Mama ended up rene with her babies
Speaker 6: just in time for Mother's Day.
Speaker 1: Oh well, Jan, thank goodness those baby ducks weren't swept
Speaker 1: way into the sewers to drown or be eaten by rats.
Speaker 1: In sports news, the a's were I like that, that's their.
Speaker 3: Happy Mother's Day story.
Speaker 1: Ducks rescued from a sewer from pure ducks. Well, I'm glad,
Speaker 1: well done, San Mateo Fire Department.
Speaker 4: I don't wish that the sewer ducks had perished on
Speaker 4: Mother's Day or any other day.
Speaker 3: Really, I'm glad that this.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm pro duck.
Speaker 4: So I am trying not to have any judgment on
Speaker 4: this and realizing that I may have been misled by
Speaker 4: my own experience and circle of friends my whole life
Speaker 4: into having a certain view of what Mother's Day or
Speaker 4: Father's Day is. I'm from the Midwest, that maybe that
Speaker 4: has something to do with it as opposed to like California,
Speaker 4: La style Mother's Day.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's an air a thing. I don't know, but.
Speaker 4: My experience with Mother's Day and Father's Day as a
Speaker 4: child and then as an adult has always been the
Speaker 4: kids and the parents spending time together on that day.
Speaker 4: But I became aware yesterday that I was. I was
Speaker 4: confronted with no, no, no, no, no, that's that's not
Speaker 4: mom's Mom's that's a day for moms to get away
Speaker 4: from their kids. Manny's, petties, champagne, brunch with the girls.
Speaker 2: That's what Mother's Day is.
Speaker 4: And I realized, maybe I've been off base all these years.
Speaker 4: I feel like all the people I know, it's way
Speaker 4: more hanging out the kids ish.
Speaker 1: But that's a long running joke in society is that
Speaker 1: Father's Day is for dads to spend time with the
Speaker 1: kids and Mother's Day is time for the mom to
Speaker 1: get away from the kids. Hmm.
Speaker 2: I mean it doesn't need to be that way. You
Speaker 2: you do you? But yeah, right, yes, Katie.
Speaker 5: The trend I've seen this year with my mom friends
Speaker 5: was they get away for the day and then they
Speaker 5: have the evening the dinner together.
Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: Again, my own small circle of experience has not been
Speaker 4: that at all, But that doesn't mean that that's the
Speaker 4: prevailing view.
Speaker 1: Was No, Judy was the primary caregiver, stay at home
Speaker 1: mom for a lot of years. So yeah, Mother's Day
Speaker 1: was a day to indulge mother.
Speaker 3: Okay, and.
Speaker 1: Uh, I know one mom was I heard from yesterday
Speaker 1: spent like was exhausted from a weekend of doing things
Speaker 1: with the kids because the kids wanted.
Speaker 4: To do Mother's Day things all weekend. Made me feel
Speaker 4: good and so you know.
Speaker 2: Not nearly so sweet.
Speaker 1: Opening statements from the Diddy trial shaping up to be
Speaker 1: as horrifying as you might guess, stay with us.
Speaker 4: Back to you, Jack, Do we know any more about
Speaker 4: the witness that has disappeared? That was the story this
Speaker 4: morning that shocked me from News Nation.
Speaker 1: One of the key witness has just gone a wall,
Speaker 1: and uh, with even some concern that they might have
Speaker 1: to delay the trial because the kind of hinged on
Speaker 1: this person's testimony. Some of the rap moguls have influence
Speaker 1: connections very reminiscent of crime bosses of old.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and do they offer you, hey, how about five
Speaker 4: million dollars and you don't show up?
Speaker 2: Or how about you show up.
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna you know, your children are going to
Speaker 4: disappear either one of those combination of that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Watch you're back for the rest of your life because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be something They have entire medi areas that
Speaker 1: can deliver that sort of message. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So that did He trial really kicking off today, So
Speaker 4: we've got an update on that coming up in a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 3: Good. I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: Also, Trump said a few things today before he jumped
Speaker 4: on a plane to go to the Middle East. There's
Speaker 4: so many huge stories going on right now. Are Zelenskin
Speaker 4: Putin going to meet face to face on Thursday? Zelensky
Speaker 4: says he'll be there waiting for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm skeptical, as I said earlier, but we shall see. Plus,
Speaker 1: the US China trade deals take in shape, all those
Speaker 1: giant tariffs are off. The stock market has exploded. I
Speaker 1: haven't checked recently, but.
Speaker 4: A pencil in every dollhouse going forward. Great gravy times
Speaker 4: are here again. Isn't it exciting?
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getdy The.
Speaker 7: First week of jury selection and the Sean Combs trial
Speaker 7: has ended without a jury being selected. Well yeah, I mean,
Speaker 7: where are you going to find twelve people who haven't
Speaker 7: had sex with Didty?
Speaker 4: So today's a big day in the Ditty trial. We're
Speaker 4: about to hear some details, and I'm wondering if this
Speaker 4: isn't going to be the first big celebrity trial we've
Speaker 4: had in a long time where we have practically daily
Speaker 4: updates on.
Speaker 3: It here on the show.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 4: Probably you start getting big time celebrities names thrown in
Speaker 4: there or some wild details.
Speaker 1: Like we've got today, what do we have, Katie. Opening
Speaker 1: statements have begun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they right now. The defense is starting to talk
Speaker 5: about Diddy, but the prosecutor just finished up. She talked
Speaker 5: a lot about Cassie Ventura and Jane, who was a
Speaker 5: girlfriend that did he had back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: How they were going to.
Speaker 5: Describe for you in painstaking detail, how they were forced
Speaker 5: to perform at freakofs. Another part says that Combs had
Speaker 5: found out that Cassie Ventura was seeing another man. In
Speaker 5: a rage, comb took his gun, his bodyguard, and kidnapped
Speaker 5: an employee to go to the unnamed man's house. Combs
Speaker 5: said that he was going to kill the man that
Speaker 5: Cassie was with. In another detail, they were going through
Speaker 5: allegations of regular physical abuse, saying that Combs sometimes beat
Speaker 5: Cassie Ventura when she took too long in the bathroom,
Speaker 5: and when she tried to run away, he always found her,
Speaker 5: often with the help of his inner circle.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty brutal. I'm reading some of the descriptions
Speaker 1: of what they're talking about. Yeah, this is not going
Speaker 1: to be like sexy and funny and exciting. I think
Speaker 1: it's going to be mostly sickening.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the defense just came out saying Seawan Combs
Speaker 5: is a complicated man, but this is not a complicated case.
Speaker 2: She's talking to the jury about.
Speaker 5: This case is about love, jealousy, infidelity, and money and
Speaker 5: voluntary choices made by capable adults. And the defense plans
Speaker 5: to present text messages from Shawn Comb's employees. For the
Speaker 5: most part, the evidence will show you it's talking to
Speaker 5: the jury that they loved him.
Speaker 4: And I loved the lifestyle that came with being around him, right,
Speaker 4: and then if things got ugly enough, he would put
Speaker 4: you in a position where he couldn't leave because you
Speaker 4: were scared for your life. Probably, what obviously is going
Speaker 4: to emerge over time is how in the world in
Speaker 4: the year twenty all the years this has been going on,
Speaker 4: how in the hell in the modern arrow with the
Speaker 4: number of people that would have had to have been
Speaker 4: aware of this lifestyle. Can you continue to pull this
Speaker 4: off in the United States of America. That's what's going
Speaker 4: to emerge. I think can be quite amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the prosecutors previewing some of the evidence the
Speaker 1: jury should expect test messages, text messages about prostitutes, videos
Speaker 1: of Comb's assaulting Cassandra Ventura, videos of some of the
Speaker 1: freak offs, which the government says show that Combs was
Speaker 1: directing the encounters. Of course, you know that's not a crime,
Speaker 1: but you will see for yourself the defendant's violence and aftermath.
Speaker 1: They described accounts to two women, including former girlfriend, who
Speaker 1: say Combs course them into drug fuel to orchestrated sex
Speaker 1: marathons with male prostitutes. Government says a third woman and
Speaker 1: a form employee will testify about times that Combs forced
Speaker 1: himself on her sexually. A case resolve around Combe's conduct,
Speaker 1: but also that of members of his inner circle who
Speaker 1: are accused of working to cover up their boss's crimes.
Speaker 4: So this is a good entry from the Washington Post
Speaker 4: today from reporters who were in there and tapping away
Speaker 4: on their phones. Sean Combs has been still an expressionalist,
Speaker 4: looking intently at the prosecutor and the jury box as
Speaker 4: a woman detailed the government's case against him, including an
Speaker 4: alleged incident when Combs paid for hotel security footage of
Speaker 4: him abusing Cassi Ventura. That's the video we've all seen
Speaker 4: of him dragging her by the hair down the hallway.
Speaker 3: Johnson said Combs arranged.
Speaker 4: For his workers to pay for what they thought was
Speaker 4: the only copy of the footage with a brown paper
Speaker 4: bag filled with one hundred thousand dollars in cash. High
Speaker 4: ranking employees who allegedly helped Combs cover up his crimes
Speaker 4: included his chief of staff as well as others. So
Speaker 4: they so, you know, at a hotel, of course, there
Speaker 4: probably would be only one copy of something like that,
Speaker 4: And they tried to show up with a paper bag
Speaker 4: full of one hundred grand and say, hey, give it
Speaker 4: to us, this is yours, No harm done, no foul,
Speaker 4: keep your mouth shut.
Speaker 2: Well that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, money was exchanged and the silence was maintained until
Speaker 1: somebody had made an.
Speaker 2: Extra copy, because people tend to do that, decided to
Speaker 2: leak it a year later.
Speaker 4: Right in the modern world, it'd be pretty easy to
Speaker 4: make an extra copy, whereas God, it wouldn't be that
Speaker 4: many years ago.
Speaker 3: You'd had to been like a you know, an audio
Speaker 3: visual major in college or something to be able to
Speaker 3: do that. But wow, that's how these people get away
Speaker 3: with that.
Speaker 1: They've just got so much money to throw at these situations,
Speaker 1: because without that video, this trial doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Speaking of throwing money at situations, his lawyer team makes
Speaker 1: OJ's dream team look like a double A ball club.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not going to know all these names,
Speaker 1: but they're like the biggest names in especially New York
Speaker 1: defense attorneys, including folks who defended pharma bro Martin Screlley,
Speaker 1: remember him, Keith Ranier, the leader of the Nexium sex cult,
Speaker 1: Dominique strauss Khan, the former managing director of the IMF.
Speaker 1: Remember in twenty eleven he was accused of sexually assaulting
Speaker 1: an hotel maid. They've defended Louis Mangione, among others. He's
Speaker 1: just he's got quite a few super heavyweights.
Speaker 2: Well he's a billionaire, right, including the.
Speaker 1: Daughter of Mark Geragos by the way, a little ty
Speaker 1: and O Jay.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he is something like that. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: that gives you.
Speaker 3: A you know, quite a bit of money to spread
Speaker 3: around on lawyers.
Speaker 1: Team also includes Alexandra Shapiro Fromin, a appellate court lawyer
Speaker 1: at the firm Shapiro or out of Bach, who was
Speaker 1: once prosecutor.
Speaker 2: In New York.
Speaker 1: She graduated from Columbia Law School and was one of
Speaker 1: the first clerks of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg at the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. She also wrote a novel entitled Presumed Guilty.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: It's sort of Shakespearean when you just get through the
Speaker 4: idea of you got so much money and power that
Speaker 4: you just you know, you run amook. You your most
Speaker 4: base instincts, run them up, and you feel like you
Speaker 4: can do anything. Because he was doing anything and getting
Speaker 4: away with it for a very long time. And it
Speaker 4: would seem as a fan of Shakespeare in human Nature
Speaker 4: that your appetite for that sort.
Speaker 3: Of thing grows with the eating.
Speaker 4: I mean, the more you get to do whatever you
Speaker 4: want and can pull it off, it makes you want
Speaker 4: to just explore further that part of your personality seems
Speaker 4: to happen. Well, Shakespeare was a plagiarizer. Jack this stuff
Speaker 4: straight out of the Old Testament. There are a number
Speaker 4: of tales of kings of old who grew bold and
Speaker 4: greedy and expressed contempt towards the laws of God and
Speaker 4: man and found themselves falling.
Speaker 2: So yeah, how many.
Speaker 4: Movie stars, actresses, musicians that we do respect knew this was.
Speaker 1: Going on, had an idea of it? Yeah, you could
Speaker 1: be like the ugly Particulars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you could have an idea. He's pretty
Speaker 4: freaky and not have any idea of like the hardcore
Speaker 4: violence and threats and all that sort of stuff, the rape.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: I've known a handful of people in my life who
Speaker 1: have been kind of pleasure seeking types. Hard PARTI yours
Speaker 1: in the direction of uh of old Diddy, and yeah,
Speaker 1: they they want everybody to have a good time, and
Speaker 1: they don't necessarily, you know, show you the inner workings
Speaker 1: of how everybody happened to be there, what substances and
Speaker 1: and the rest of it.
Speaker 2: Now, that's the part of throwing a good party.
Speaker 1: You don't tell them, Hey, I've threatened these prostitutes with
Speaker 1: a pistol whipping right, a bad form.
Speaker 3: It's that romantic or sexy.
Speaker 1: Uh. If that video had stayed hidden, I think he
Speaker 1: would he wouldn't even be in jail right now. I
Speaker 1: think that was the big deal, and I mean it's
Speaker 1: been stated as such by all kinds of legal experts
Speaker 1: in all the articles I read over the weekend, And
Speaker 1: then that's going to be huge for showing the jury
Speaker 1: what kind of person he is.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Not only that, but I read with interest mentioned this
Speaker 1: a little earlier. But prosecutors say they have trouble convincing
Speaker 1: juries that somebody like Diddy allegedly can be that brutal
Speaker 1: and cruel over that long period of time, because most
Speaker 1: normal people don't have that in their life experience.
Speaker 2: Somebody who is so.
Speaker 1: Who's so disregards kindness and compassion that they can just
Speaker 1: brutalize people. Would do They have a hard time picturing that.
Speaker 3: Would you want to be a jury on a trial
Speaker 3: like this?
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: So to finish the thought, to show somebody brutalizing somebody else,
Speaker 1: that juror say, oh wow, he is capable of that.
Speaker 1: That's terrible in a way that you know I don't need.
Speaker 1: But I'm a cynical man, having got it. I'd love
Speaker 1: to be as of humanity for an entire career. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'd love.
Speaker 4: To be a juror what a fascinating experience that would
Speaker 4: be six to eight weeks of listening to this and
Speaker 4: then and then applying the law to it with the
Speaker 4: evidence and everything. That would be so interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, it's one of the downsides of
Speaker 1: the jury system. And we around here advocate very very
Speaker 1: strongly for you to not try to.
Speaker 2: Get out of jury duty.
Speaker 1: Try as hard as you can to do jury duty
Speaker 1: because it's a constitutional you know, responsibility of all of us,
Speaker 1: and it's just crazy interesting in all sorts of different ways.
Speaker 1: I really really recommend you you try to get on
Speaker 1: a jury. Plus, you could end any common sense whatsoever
Speaker 1: we need you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could end up on the other end of
Speaker 4: this someday where you didn't do anything. Do you want
Speaker 4: a bunch of numb nuts making the decision?
Speaker 1: On the other hand, six to eight weeks, I mean,
Speaker 1: there are plenty of us who that that would not do.
Speaker 2: I just can't do it.
Speaker 3: No, I couldn't single parent, Yeah, full time.
Speaker 2: Primary care or is just somebody with the nature of
Speaker 2: their work.
Speaker 1: You can't have Jim cover your accounts while you're out
Speaker 1: for six weeks. You're a sole proprietor for a proprietor,
Speaker 1: for instance, or you do a radio show slash podcast
Speaker 1: and nobody could come.
Speaker 2: Close to your brilliance to fill in. Uh so, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's tough, but it's important.
Speaker 4: I'm not a guy who's I don't think would be
Speaker 4: shocked by any of the stuff that's going to come
Speaker 4: out of this trial.
Speaker 3: But there are probably jurors on there. I'm like trying
Speaker 3: to picture my mom or somebody.
Speaker 1: Who might be like, I mean, really kind of hard
Speaker 1: to wrap their heads around what they're talking about.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: There are occasional discussions of having professional jurors in this
Speaker 1: country to simplify things and not have to run through
Speaker 1: zillions of people who are trying to make excuses and get.
Speaker 2: Out of it.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. It's just a whole rigmarole. It's an
Speaker 1: intriguing notion. There's some pretty strong pros and some cons.
Speaker 1: But tell you what, if that were the deal man,
Speaker 1: when and if I ever retire from this dead end gig,
Speaker 1: I could absolutely see doing that being a professional juror.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to work full time all the time.
Speaker 1: But oh it's so interesting.
Speaker 4: Hey, so is there a racial element to this. You know,
Speaker 4: the whole OJ thing really turned into a black white
Speaker 4: you know, the riots afterwards and everything like that. And
Speaker 4: is there a racial element to this? Is is black
Speaker 4: community standing up for Diddy Combs or is he not?
Speaker 4: Is that not the thing here?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Katie, have you heard anything like that.
Speaker 1: I've been unaware of any dynamics like that, which doesn't
Speaker 1: prove anything.
Speaker 5: But the only person I've seen charing for Diddy is Kanye.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I agree, which is not like somebody you
Speaker 3: want on.
Speaker 1: Your side, not see sympathizer. Yes, not the best look. Hey,
Speaker 1: thanks for the offer, yea, but yee yay ye But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll bet Ya shows up at the courthouse at some point.
Speaker 1: He is going to be out front there at some
Speaker 1: point doing it. We were in his clan robes yelling
Speaker 1: about Hitler is all blat not helpful.
Speaker 3: Hey, you're not helping. You're not helping me here with
Speaker 3: the klan that.
Speaker 2: You think you're helping.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate it, But you and your clan robe
Speaker 1: and your heile Hitler go.
Speaker 4: Trump is headed to the Middle East. You might be
Speaker 4: getting a new plane from the uh from who Qatar?
Speaker 4: It's going to provide him with a plane. That's kind
Speaker 4: of a story that the left's really into right now.
Speaker 3: I don't know if.
Speaker 2: It's well, he's good. They're going to lend it to
Speaker 2: him as Air Force one.
Speaker 1: Then when he's out office, he'll just keep it.
Speaker 4: Theoretically, Okay, now, okay, we got a bunch of stuffed update.
Speaker 3: You want to stay here.
Speaker 8: So for the first time in many years, we'll slash
Speaker 8: the costs of prescription drugs, and we will bring fairness
Speaker 8: to America.
Speaker 3: Drug prices will come down by much more.
Speaker 8: Really, if you think fifty nine if you if you
Speaker 8: think of a drug that is sometimes ten times more expensive,
Speaker 8: it's much more than the fifty nine percent. You know,
Speaker 8: it depends on the way you want to addle, but
Speaker 8: in one way, you could analyze.
Speaker 3: It that way.
Speaker 8: But between fifty nine and eighty and I guess even
Speaker 8: ninety percent, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know what any of those numbers mean.
Speaker 4: But President Trump signed an executive order that are supposed
Speaker 4: to really slash.
Speaker 3: Prescription drug prices. He signed it today.
Speaker 4: Now, he tried to do the same thing in the
Speaker 4: first term, but the court stopped him, saying he doesn't
Speaker 4: have the ability to do that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he feels he has the ability
Speaker 3: to do it.
Speaker 4: Here, it's another example of something that you know, Congress
Speaker 4: could write a law about him, could be a permanent
Speaker 4: part of our lives.
Speaker 3: But we don't do things like that anymore.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I've got to admit I'm torn on this topic.
Speaker 1: I've heard some pretty steady role in reliable people say
Speaker 1: we're removing the innovation, the R and D, the incentive
Speaker 1: to come up with groundbreaking new drugs, and Trump is saying, now,
Speaker 1: that's that's not truel.
Speaker 2: We're getting ripped off.
Speaker 4: I'm completely at sea, and I think ninety nine percent
Speaker 4: of people are on all this stuff. I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't have this lightest idea what things cost.
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 3: I'm on eight different drugs for my whooping cough. Now eight.
Speaker 4: I was at the doctor for three hours on Saturday,
Speaker 4: lots of drugs. I went and picked up four Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 4: They ranged in price that I paid, that I had
Speaker 4: to hand money over to someone. They ranged in price
Speaker 4: from zero to thirty five cents to forty eight dollars
Speaker 4: and I just pay it just like everybody else does.
Speaker 4: Why is that one forty eight why is that one zero?
Speaker 4: I don't have any idea. I don't question it. What
Speaker 4: am I gonna try to figure out?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 3: Where would you even start?
Speaker 2: And who's paying how much?
Speaker 1: To a pharmacy or a pharmacy benefits manager, an insurance
Speaker 1: company or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know if that one that cost
Speaker 4: me thirty six cents was outrageously priced that my insurance
Speaker 4: company picked up but is now spreading that cost among I.
Speaker 2: Don't have any idea, and neither to you.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I don't even know what it means
Speaker 4: when he says I'm gonna low or prescription drug costs.
Speaker 3: I have insurance and my drugs don't cost much, So.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Right, it doesn't mean they don't cost
Speaker 2: me much.
Speaker 4: They might be costing a ton of money, and it
Speaker 4: might be horrible, and we might be all getting ripped off,
Speaker 4: and we're all paying way too much for insured and
Speaker 4: my insure, my premiums are high enough, my deductible's insane.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's because insurance the drugs are too high.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, and I'm never gonna sit down
Speaker 1: to figure it out either. No, in every good and
Speaker 1: thorough explanation I've ever gotten of how our health system works,
Speaker 1: including the government's involvement in it. You go through it's
Speaker 1: like the stages of accepting death. I mean, there's the
Speaker 1: eyes glazing, then there's the anger, then there's the discouragement
Speaker 1: and the sadness, and you realize not all. Not only
Speaker 1: do I know this system is crazy and confusing. I
Speaker 1: know I will never be able to understand it. It
Speaker 1: is so complex and mobbed up.
Speaker 3: Oh, and I got a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't mean to be discouraging it just is.
Speaker 3: I got a letter the other day on some medical bill.
Speaker 4: They're gonna turn it over to collections because I owe
Speaker 4: five dollars in twenty four cents that somehow slipped through
Speaker 4: the cracks of and I tried to pay it, and
Speaker 4: that I punched in the code of the account I've got.
Speaker 3: And they claim it doesn't exist. I know I've done
Speaker 3: this before.
Speaker 2: It's five dollars and twenty four cents.
Speaker 1: Good freaking God, and I have no idea what I
Speaker 1: was from or where.
Speaker 2: That sort of stuff is just nuts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's what pushes people toward wanting a single
Speaker 4: pair system. But I guarantee you a single pair system
Speaker 4: is gonna feel a lot like being at the DMV.
Speaker 4: You might not be paying out of pocket per time
Speaker 4: the same way, but the hassle paperwork getting denied will
Speaker 4: be insane.
Speaker 1: So love a lot of what Trump's doing on a
Speaker 1: lot of different fronts, but the whole having a tariff
Speaker 1: against foreign movies to help out Hollywood's saying, there's rather
Speaker 1: a good argument against that. I would like to make
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Speaker 3: I just read a detail from the Diddy trial today.
Speaker 4: One of the women is going to explain, Gee ros So,
Speaker 4: I mean, there's stuff there that was shocked the conscience
Speaker 4: of anybody but a merchant marine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure we want to hear about it.
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