WEBVTT - Drinking The Black Coffee Of Reality

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm.

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<v Speaker 3>Strong and Jetty and now he.

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<v Speaker 2>Arms Strong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty five year old Motown Legends Smokey Robinson has been

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<v Speaker 1>accused of sexual assault by four of his former housekeepers.

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<v Speaker 1>Robinson plans to beat the charges by being dead soon.

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<v Speaker 3>That was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a point.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no kidding those of you who like flavored coffee.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm out of my good my coffee. That's like coffee,

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<v Speaker 4>flavored coffee, which is what I think coffee should taste like.

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<v Speaker 4>And the worst part is you lose the smell. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>making my coffee and it didn't smell coffee, which is

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<v Speaker 4>one of the greatest smells in the history of the world.

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<v Speaker 4>It smelled like chocolate or hazelin or something.

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell? What is wrong with you people?

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<v Speaker 1>Gum staunchly anti flavored coffee? I say, no, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You're wrong, deeply wrong. If you like flavored coffee characters flawed.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want it to another thing you may or

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<v Speaker 1>may not be wrong about. We're getting a face from Katie.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you flavored copp Well, you're a girl.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I like my coffee black. But says the guy

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<v Speaker 5>who just put creamer in his what flavor was the

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<v Speaker 5>creamer you put in your coffee?

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<v Speaker 2>Like a week ago?

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<v Speaker 3>Cream flavored cream face like cream like from a cow?

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<v Speaker 2>You sure it wasn't almond berry?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't do flavors. I don't do flavors strawberry

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<v Speaker 3>whipped cream.

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<v Speaker 2>It's whatever came out of the cow flavored. I do

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About Mother's Day a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I noticed yesterday there's two very divergent views on what

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<v Speaker 4>Mother's Day, how it should be celebrated, and I just

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<v Speaker 4>wondered where most people.

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<v Speaker 3>Are on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, I got to mention the teriff thing, the war

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<v Speaker 4>with China, the terrif or with China's over. They they

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<v Speaker 4>ended it, so the ninety day pause and and and

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like it's probably just gonna stay that way.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that whole thing. I'm ready for the historians.

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<v Speaker 1>To write what we got out of it. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>crazy part is over. There's still some john to be done,

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<v Speaker 1>in numbers to be set, and and you know, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not quite as rosy as you are. I'm drinking

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<v Speaker 1>the black coffee of reality. Here we still are an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous trading partner with a malevolent communist power that seeks

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<v Speaker 1>our destruction.

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<v Speaker 2>So what about that part? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>We will see going forward. I don't know if you're

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with this. Trump has the White House, the Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>have a White House, and in both houses of Congress

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<v Speaker 1>at barely. But there's a midterm coming up. So what

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<v Speaker 1>are the demo crats up to? A couple of interesting perspectives.

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<v Speaker 1>Quoting a bit from the fabulous ally Bowls of the

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<v Speaker 1>Free Press, she's highly amused that tariffs are now what

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<v Speaker 1>she says is MAGA coded. They're code dead, they're associated

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<v Speaker 1>with maga. So socialists are finally realizing that these are

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<v Speaker 1>a bad idea to begin with. So suddenly everybody on

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<v Speaker 1>the left is turning pro free trade and anti tariff.

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<v Speaker 1>Complete flip Bernie Sanders saying it's a bit arrogant to say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe kids have too many toys and the price may

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<v Speaker 1>go up a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I think billionaires like.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and Musk do not have a clue what it

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<v Speaker 1>means for working class families. So all of a sudden, Bernie,

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<v Speaker 1>who's been like pro labor and anti tariff his whole

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<v Speaker 1>life for.

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<v Speaker 2>Like free trade. Now it's funny, here's proff his whole life. Correct. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, he said anti So I just did he

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<v Speaker 2>is now? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bernie led a movement that fought hard against free

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<v Speaker 1>trade for decades. Like his own Senate page, he literally

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<v Speaker 1>says he has quote helped lead the effort against disastrous,

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<v Speaker 1>unfettered free trade deals with China, Mexico, and other low

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<v Speaker 1>wage countries. All we needed was one Trumpo, and every

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<v Speaker 1>socialist in America's waxing poetic about cheap China made toys

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<v Speaker 1>on Amazon and how they're the American dream.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that man. About eight thousand pencils today on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so excited about the good times, being back the

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<v Speaker 4>gravy years, where you can have as many pencils and.

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<v Speaker 3>Dolls as you wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>So many dolls. I've assembled a doll Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>I have four hundred and thirty five dollars that I

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<v Speaker 1>call the House of Representatives, and then one hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>I call the Senate, hundreds and hundreds of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I have one giant doll.

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<v Speaker 3>I call trump a pencil in their hand.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, please.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's well known that the Democrats are out of

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<v Speaker 1>power and out of sorts. Nobody knows what they believe in.

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<v Speaker 1>They ran a mummy and then they realized that was

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<v Speaker 1>a bad idea, so ran a dummy and he got

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<v Speaker 1>trounced by Donald Jay and nobody knows what they stand for. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's starting to take shape a little bit. Nelly Bowles

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<v Speaker 1>Wrights my beloved technocrats. New York Times columnists and podcast

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<v Speaker 1>hosts Ezra Kleine and data whiz David Shore have been

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<v Speaker 1>tapped by Senate Democrats to be their special guests.

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<v Speaker 2>That their annual retreat.

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<v Speaker 1>Only a few years ago, David Shore was fired for

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<v Speaker 1>posting data suggesting that the riots following MLK Junior's assassination

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<v Speaker 1>likely tipped the nineteen sixty eight presidential election in Nixon's favor,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was interpreted as a vai as a thinly

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<v Speaker 1>veiled critique of the Black Lives Matter protests, So he

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<v Speaker 1>was fired for that. So the fact that seven demo

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<v Speaker 1>Senate Democrats are picking Klein in Shore, who left really

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<v Speaker 1>tried to destroy because they were normal, indicates a massive,

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<v Speaker 1>massive messaging shift is coming our way, sure enough.

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<v Speaker 2>And then here's Gaviy Newsom.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week we lost the popular vote, we lost the

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<v Speaker 1>electoral vote. We got crushed, and we need to be

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<v Speaker 1>humble about that, and we need to have some grace

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<v Speaker 1>and we need to understand why was it because of immigration?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it because we were too quote unquote woke?

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<v Speaker 2>And then Pete.

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<v Speaker 1>Boot Edge Edge sporting beard by the way, Yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Pete's got a beard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's rocking a beard. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's hitting up the manly podcasts too. He's appearing

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere on the like Moderate to write manly men podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>the drink coffee. If you know what I'm saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>do know precisely what you were saying.

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying he's gay anyway, boot Edge Edge.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, he said, it is so hard to build

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<v Speaker 1>and do things in this country. And I lived this

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<v Speaker 1>when I was at the Department of Transportation. Too much

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<v Speaker 1>regulation standing in charge in the way of progress. And

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<v Speaker 1>Nelly writes, that's the closest thing we've gotten to Ama

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<v Speaker 1>Kulpa for Pete having seven and a half billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>installing a total of seven charging stations in two years.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to forgive you, Pete. I.

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<v Speaker 4>I was listening to the Dispatch podcast last week and

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<v Speaker 4>A had an interesting conversation and Sarah, I isger on there,

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<v Speaker 4>said she's on ABC this week every week. But she said,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think she's absolutely right. She said, in what

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<v Speaker 4>sense are there political parties anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>There aren't.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they wait for a personality to emerge and

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<v Speaker 4>then they go with whatever that personality.

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<v Speaker 3>Believes they don't have.

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<v Speaker 4>So the Republican Party does what Trump is into now,

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<v Speaker 4>but as soon as.

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<v Speaker 3>He disappears from the scene, it will be as at

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<v Speaker 3>see as.

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<v Speaker 1>The Democrats are right now, who are waiting for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to emerge, and then they'll adopt whatever policies that person is.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's Bernie, they'll be a Bernie person. If it's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody more moderate, they'll adopt that person. But

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<v Speaker 1>the parties aren't driving it. The personality that emerges is

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<v Speaker 1>driving it. So there aren't really parties now. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>resisting the temptation to get into the Medicare reform negotiations,

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<v Speaker 1>which are making me insane. These so called moderate Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>are just trying to somewhat cap the explosive growth in waste, fraud, abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>and perversion of this medical medical you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, care for the you know, the poor and the

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<v Speaker 2>old and the it's just expl it's exploded Medicaid too.

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<v Speaker 1>But well with medicaid, you know, you got the federal

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<v Speaker 1>government paying ninety percent of the bill for healthy, working

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<v Speaker 1>aged males who are just too lazy to work. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got them paying about a third for poverty stricken pregnant ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>It's become so perverse and upside down. But the so

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<v Speaker 1>called the moderate Republicans are saying, hey, we shouldn't crack

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<v Speaker 1>down on this because it's it's real easy for them

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<v Speaker 1>to portray us as mean, and so let's just keep

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<v Speaker 1>letting it explode out of control. Now you got fiscal

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<v Speaker 1>hawks saying, for God's sake, we got to do something

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<v Speaker 1>about this. But the being shouted down in the Republican Party,

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<v Speaker 1>I said to Jack, was it? I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>verbally before the show, I said, the Republican Party doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>stand for anything anymore. I have no idea what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>neither party. It's funny you should bring that to us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's a personality's driven on both sides. Part

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<v Speaker 4>of it is the way financing works now and all that,

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<v Speaker 4>and in the air of Trump, you can have everybody

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<v Speaker 4>bellowing from the same hymnal on the right.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Trump changes his mind two weeks later, and then

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's bellowing the opposite. Sure it's enough to make you

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<v Speaker 1>a cuckoo nuts anyway, I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to kicking the Democrats who deserve it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nelly Bowles in the Free Press brings up the project. Hey, La,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what you're slack and listen to what Philly's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>You think you can squander enormous amounts of money on

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<v Speaker 1>practically nothing. Philadelphia has a project to build fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>units of affordable housing. So far, it's taken over six

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<v Speaker 1>years and many many meetings and they still haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>broken ground six years, tremendous amounts of money and haven't

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<v Speaker 1>even stuck a shovel in the dirt on only fifty

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<v Speaker 1>seven units. Anyway, Yes, yes, that's correct. And they're six

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<v Speaker 1>years into the project, whatever that means. I guess I'm

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<v Speaker 1>six years into my becoming an astronaut project too.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, this is the punchline, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the actual website to verify these numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>They are, actually they are literally in print. The City

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<v Speaker 1>of Pasadena, is it Pasadena? Yes, Pasadena, California is putting

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<v Speaker 1>their electrical cables underground. There are a number of cities

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<v Speaker 1>in California and around the country that do this. It

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<v Speaker 1>helps maintain the reliability of electrical power during storms and

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. It also prevents you know, crappy

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<v Speaker 1>polls from falling down or poorly secured wires from falling

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<v Speaker 1>and igniting the underbrush and forests and causing horrific wildfires

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<v Speaker 1>that kill many people and then ruin ruin many lives. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of good reasons to put these

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<v Speaker 1>electrical cables underground. The City of Pasadena's website estimates that

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<v Speaker 1>it will take four hundred years to put their electrical

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<v Speaker 1>cables underground. This is real quote. According to that construction timeline,

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<v Speaker 1>Category two streets it's going to take Category one streets

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<v Speaker 1>is the most important priority streets. According to the website,

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<v Speaker 1>it will take one hundred years to put the power

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<v Speaker 1>underground for the priority streets. One hundred years. Now, let

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<v Speaker 1>me read from the website. Category two streets would be

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<v Speaker 1>completed completed in approximately four hundred years. That's right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>it will take longer than America has existed to put

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<v Speaker 1>electrical cables under the sidewalk. Progressives have decided that since

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<v Speaker 1>getting things done is right wing coded, now we must

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<v Speaker 1>remain completely still. We must put down our hammers and

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<v Speaker 1>let the buildings around us slowly decay. We must embrace

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<v Speaker 1>decay and death is the truest expression of what it

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<v Speaker 1>means to be American, what it means to be human.

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<v Speaker 1>Pasadena measures civic improvement projects in centuries like redwoods, like

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<v Speaker 1>shark teeth, like.

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<v Speaker 2>The wind, that's funist to god.

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<v Speaker 1>The city website says, we're estimating it will take approximately

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred years to complete the Phase two straits.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why there's an opening for that whole abundance

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<v Speaker 4>Democrat movement that's catching on that we talked about on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Right exactly, it's you know what, it's very blue doggie,

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<v Speaker 1>or so it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>In its early days.

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<v Speaker 4>What is Mother's Day supposed to be? Came across two

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<v Speaker 4>diverging opinions. I wanted to bring up and a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of other stuff on the waist here farm strong.

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<v Speaker 6>Before ducklings rescued from a sewer drain in northern California,

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<v Speaker 6>firefighters jumping into action after the mother duck quacked for

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<v Speaker 6>somebody to help. Mama ended up rene with her babies

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<v Speaker 6>just in time for Mother's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, Jan, thank goodness those baby ducks weren't swept

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<v Speaker 1>way into the sewers to drown or be eaten by rats.

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<v Speaker 1>In sports news, the a's were I like that, that's their.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy Mother's Day story.

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<v Speaker 1>Ducks rescued from a sewer from pure ducks. Well, I'm glad,

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<v Speaker 1>well done, San Mateo Fire Department.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't wish that the sewer ducks had perished on

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<v Speaker 4>Mother's Day or any other day.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I'm glad that this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm pro duck.

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<v Speaker 4>So I am trying not to have any judgment on

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<v Speaker 4>this and realizing that I may have been misled by

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<v Speaker 4>my own experience and circle of friends my whole life

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<v Speaker 4>into having a certain view of what Mother's Day or

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<v Speaker 4>Father's Day is. I'm from the Midwest, that maybe that

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<v Speaker 4>has something to do with it as opposed to like California,

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<v Speaker 4>La style Mother's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's an air a thing. I don't know, but.

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<v Speaker 4>My experience with Mother's Day and Father's Day as a

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<v Speaker 4>child and then as an adult has always been the

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<v Speaker 4>kids and the parents spending time together on that day.

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<v Speaker 4>But I became aware yesterday that I was. I was

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<v Speaker 4>confronted with no, no, no, no, no, that's that's not

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<v Speaker 4>mom's Mom's that's a day for moms to get away

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<v Speaker 4>from their kids. Manny's, petties, champagne, brunch with the girls.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Mother's Day is.

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<v Speaker 4>And I realized, maybe I've been off base all these years.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like all the people I know, it's way

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<v Speaker 4>more hanging out the kids ish.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a long running joke in society is that

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<v Speaker 1>Father's Day is for dads to spend time with the

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<v Speaker 1>kids and Mother's Day is time for the mom to

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<v Speaker 1>get away from the kids. Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it doesn't need to be that way. You

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<v Speaker 2>you do you? But yeah, right, yes, Katie.

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<v Speaker 5>The trend I've seen this year with my mom friends

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<v Speaker 5>was they get away for the day and then they

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<v Speaker 5>have the evening the dinner together.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting. Yeah, yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, my own small circle of experience has not been

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<v Speaker 4>that at all, But that doesn't mean that that's the

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<v Speaker 4>prevailing view.

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<v Speaker 1>Was No, Judy was the primary caregiver, stay at home

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<v Speaker 1>mom for a lot of years. So yeah, Mother's Day

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<v Speaker 1>was a day to indulge mother.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I know one mom was I heard from yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>spent like was exhausted from a weekend of doing things

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<v Speaker 1>with the kids because the kids wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>To do Mother's Day things all weekend. Made me feel

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<v Speaker 4>good and so you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Not nearly so sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Opening statements from the Diddy trial shaping up to be

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<v Speaker 1>as horrifying as you might guess, stay with us.

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<v Speaker 4>Back to you, Jack, Do we know any more about

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<v Speaker 4>the witness that has disappeared? That was the story this

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<v Speaker 4>morning that shocked me from News Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the key witness has just gone a wall,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, with even some concern that they might have

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<v Speaker 1>to delay the trial because the kind of hinged on

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<v Speaker 1>this person's testimony. Some of the rap moguls have influence

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<v Speaker 1>connections very reminiscent of crime bosses of old.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, and do they offer you, hey, how about five

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<v Speaker 4>million dollars and you don't show up?

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<v Speaker 2>Or how about you show up.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm gonna you know, your children are going to

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<v Speaker 4>disappear either one of those combination of that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch you're back for the rest of your life because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get you.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't that be something They have entire medi areas that

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<v Speaker 1>can deliver that sort of message. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So that did He trial really kicking off today, So

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<v Speaker 4>we've got an update on that coming up in a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Good. I'm looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, Trump said a few things today before he jumped

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<v Speaker 4>on a plane to go to the Middle East. There's

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<v Speaker 4>so many huge stories going on right now. Are Zelenskin

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<v Speaker 4>Putin going to meet face to face on Thursday? Zelensky

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<v Speaker 4>says he'll be there waiting for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm skeptical, as I said earlier, but we shall see. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>the US China trade deals take in shape, all those

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<v Speaker 1>giant tariffs are off. The stock market has exploded. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't checked recently, but.

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<v Speaker 4>A pencil in every dollhouse going forward. Great gravy times

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<v Speaker 4>are here again. Isn't it exciting?

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getdy The.

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<v Speaker 7>First week of jury selection and the Sean Combs trial

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<v Speaker 7>has ended without a jury being selected. Well yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>where are you going to find twelve people who haven't

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<v Speaker 7>had sex with Didty?

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<v Speaker 4>So today's a big day in the Ditty trial. We're

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<v Speaker 4>about to hear some details, and I'm wondering if this

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<v Speaker 4>isn't going to be the first big celebrity trial we've

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<v Speaker 4>had in a long time where we have practically daily

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<v Speaker 4>updates on.

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<v Speaker 3>It here on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably you start getting big time celebrities names thrown in

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<v Speaker 4>there or some wild details.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we've got today, what do we have, Katie. Opening

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<v Speaker 1>statements have begun.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they right now. The defense is starting to talk

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<v Speaker 5>about Diddy, but the prosecutor just finished up. She talked

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<v Speaker 5>a lot about Cassie Ventura and Jane, who was a

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<v Speaker 5>girlfriend that did he had back in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>How they were going to.

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<v Speaker 5>Describe for you in painstaking detail, how they were forced

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<v Speaker 5>to perform at freakofs. Another part says that Combs had

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<v Speaker 5>found out that Cassie Ventura was seeing another man. In

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<v Speaker 5>a rage, comb took his gun, his bodyguard, and kidnapped

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<v Speaker 5>an employee to go to the unnamed man's house. Combs

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<v Speaker 5>said that he was going to kill the man that

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<v Speaker 5>Cassie was with. In another detail, they were going through

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<v Speaker 5>allegations of regular physical abuse, saying that Combs sometimes beat

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<v Speaker 5>Cassie Ventura when she took too long in the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 5>and when she tried to run away, he always found her,

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<v Speaker 5>often with the help of his inner circle.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's pretty brutal. I'm reading some of the descriptions

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<v Speaker 1>of what they're talking about. Yeah, this is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be like sexy and funny and exciting. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be mostly sickening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and the defense just came out saying Seawan Combs

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<v Speaker 5>is a complicated man, but this is not a complicated case.

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<v Speaker 2>She's talking to the jury about.

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<v Speaker 5>This case is about love, jealousy, infidelity, and money and

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<v Speaker 5>voluntary choices made by capable adults. And the defense plans

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<v Speaker 5>to present text messages from Shawn Comb's employees. For the

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<v Speaker 5>most part, the evidence will show you it's talking to

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<v Speaker 5>the jury that they loved him.

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<v Speaker 4>And I loved the lifestyle that came with being around him, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and then if things got ugly enough, he would put

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<v Speaker 4>you in a position where he couldn't leave because you

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<v Speaker 4>were scared for your life. Probably, what obviously is going

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<v Speaker 4>to emerge over time is how in the world in

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<v Speaker 4>the year twenty all the years this has been going on,

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<v Speaker 4>how in the hell in the modern arrow with the

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<v Speaker 4>number of people that would have had to have been

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<v Speaker 4>aware of this lifestyle. Can you continue to pull this

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<v Speaker 4>off in the United States of America. That's what's going

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<v Speaker 4>to emerge. I think can be quite amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the prosecutors previewing some of the evidence the

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<v Speaker 1>jury should expect test messages, text messages about prostitutes, videos

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<v Speaker 1>of Comb's assaulting Cassandra Ventura, videos of some of the

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<v Speaker 1>freak offs, which the government says show that Combs was

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<v Speaker 1>directing the encounters. Of course, you know that's not a crime,

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<v Speaker 1>but you will see for yourself the defendant's violence and aftermath.

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<v Speaker 1>They described accounts to two women, including former girlfriend, who

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<v Speaker 1>say Combs course them into drug fuel to orchestrated sex

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<v Speaker 1>marathons with male prostitutes. Government says a third woman and

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<v Speaker 1>a form employee will testify about times that Combs forced

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<v Speaker 1>himself on her sexually. A case resolve around Combe's conduct,

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<v Speaker 1>but also that of members of his inner circle who

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<v Speaker 1>are accused of working to cover up their boss's crimes.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is a good entry from the Washington Post

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<v Speaker 4>today from reporters who were in there and tapping away

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<v Speaker 4>on their phones. Sean Combs has been still an expressionalist,

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<v Speaker 4>looking intently at the prosecutor and the jury box as

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<v Speaker 4>a woman detailed the government's case against him, including an

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<v Speaker 4>alleged incident when Combs paid for hotel security footage of

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<v Speaker 4>him abusing Cassi Ventura. That's the video we've all seen

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<v Speaker 4>of him dragging her by the hair down the hallway.

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson said Combs arranged.

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<v Speaker 4>For his workers to pay for what they thought was

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<v Speaker 4>the only copy of the footage with a brown paper

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<v Speaker 4>bag filled with one hundred thousand dollars in cash. High

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<v Speaker 4>ranking employees who allegedly helped Combs cover up his crimes

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<v Speaker 4>included his chief of staff as well as others. So

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<v Speaker 4>they so, you know, at a hotel, of course, there

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<v Speaker 4>probably would be only one copy of something like that,

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<v Speaker 4>And they tried to show up with a paper bag

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<v Speaker 4>full of one hundred grand and say, hey, give it

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<v Speaker 4>to us, this is yours, No harm done, no foul,

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<v Speaker 4>keep your mouth shut.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, money was exchanged and the silence was maintained until

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<v Speaker 1>somebody had made an.

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<v Speaker 2>Extra copy, because people tend to do that, decided to

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<v Speaker 2>leak it a year later.

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<v Speaker 4>Right in the modern world, it'd be pretty easy to

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<v Speaker 4>make an extra copy, whereas God, it wouldn't be that

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<v Speaker 4>many years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd had to been like a you know, an audio

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<v Speaker 3>visual major in college or something to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>do that. But wow, that's how these people get away

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<v Speaker 3>with that.

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<v Speaker 1>They've just got so much money to throw at these situations,

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<v Speaker 1>because without that video, this trial doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of throwing money at situations, his lawyer team makes

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<v Speaker 1>OJ's dream team look like a double A ball club.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're not going to know all these names,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're like the biggest names in especially New York

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<v Speaker 1>defense attorneys, including folks who defended pharma bro Martin Screlley,

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<v Speaker 1>remember him, Keith Ranier, the leader of the Nexium sex cult,

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<v Speaker 1>Dominique strauss Khan, the former managing director of the IMF.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember in twenty eleven he was accused of sexually assaulting

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<v Speaker 1>an hotel maid. They've defended Louis Mangione, among others. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just he's got quite a few super heavyweights.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he's a billionaire, right, including the.

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<v Speaker 1>Daughter of Mark Geragos by the way, a little ty

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<v Speaker 1>and O Jay.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he is something like that. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>that gives you.

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<v Speaker 3>A you know, quite a bit of money to spread

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<v Speaker 3>around on lawyers.

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<v Speaker 1>Team also includes Alexandra Shapiro Fromin, a appellate court lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>at the firm Shapiro or out of Bach, who was

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<v Speaker 1>once prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 2>In New York.

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<v Speaker 1>She graduated from Columbia Law School and was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first clerks of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg at the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court. She also wrote a novel entitled Presumed Guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>It's sort of Shakespearean when you just get through the

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<v Speaker 4>idea of you got so much money and power that

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<v Speaker 4>you just you know, you run amook. You your most

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<v Speaker 4>base instincts, run them up, and you feel like you

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<v Speaker 4>can do anything. Because he was doing anything and getting

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<v Speaker 4>away with it for a very long time. And it

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<v Speaker 4>would seem as a fan of Shakespeare in human Nature

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<v Speaker 4>that your appetite for that sort.

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<v Speaker 3>Of thing grows with the eating.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the more you get to do whatever you

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<v Speaker 4>want and can pull it off, it makes you want

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<v Speaker 4>to just explore further that part of your personality seems

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<v Speaker 4>to happen. Well, Shakespeare was a plagiarizer. Jack this stuff

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<v Speaker 4>straight out of the Old Testament. There are a number

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<v Speaker 4>of tales of kings of old who grew bold and

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<v Speaker 4>greedy and expressed contempt towards the laws of God and

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<v Speaker 4>man and found themselves falling.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, how many.

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<v Speaker 4>Movie stars, actresses, musicians that we do respect knew this was.

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<v Speaker 1>Going on, had an idea of it? Yeah, you could

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<v Speaker 1>be like the ugly Particulars.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think you could have an idea. He's pretty

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<v Speaker 4>freaky and not have any idea of like the hardcore

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 4>violence and threats and all that sort of stuff, the rape.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I've known a handful of people in my life who

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<v Speaker 1>have been kind of pleasure seeking types. Hard PARTI yours

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<v Speaker 1>in the direction of uh of old Diddy, and yeah,

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 1>they they want everybody to have a good time, and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't necessarily, you know, show you the inner workings

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<v Speaker 1>of how everybody happened to be there, what substances and

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that's the part of throwing a good party.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't tell them, Hey, I've threatened these prostitutes with

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>a pistol whipping right, a bad form.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that romantic or sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. If that video had stayed hidden, I think he

0:25:57.520 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 1>would he wouldn't even be in jail right now. I

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.880
<v Speaker 1>think that was the big deal, and I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>been stated as such by all kinds of legal experts

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.159
<v Speaker 1>in all the articles I read over the weekend, And

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<v Speaker 1>then that's going to be huge for showing the jury

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of person he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only that, but I read with interest mentioned this

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<v Speaker 1>a little earlier. But prosecutors say they have trouble convincing

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:24.640
<v Speaker 1>juries that somebody like Diddy allegedly can be that brutal

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<v Speaker 1>and cruel over that long period of time, because most

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<v Speaker 1>normal people don't have that in their life experience.

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Somebody who is so.

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Who's so disregards kindness and compassion that they can just

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<v Speaker 1>brutalize people. Would do They have a hard time picturing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you want to be a jury on a trial

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<v Speaker 3>like this?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>So to finish the thought, to show somebody brutalizing somebody else,

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<v Speaker 1>that juror say, oh wow, he is capable of that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's terrible in a way that you know I don't need.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm a cynical man, having got it. I'd love

0:26:57.640 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to be as of humanity for an entire career. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love.

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<v Speaker 4>To be a juror what a fascinating experience that would

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<v Speaker 4>be six to eight weeks of listening to this and

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 4>then and then applying the law to it with the

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 4>evidence and everything. That would be so interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's you know, it's one of the downsides of

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>the jury system. And we around here advocate very very

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 1>strongly for you to not try to.

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Get out of jury duty.

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Try as hard as you can to do jury duty

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>because it's a constitutional you know, responsibility of all of us,

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's just crazy interesting in all sorts of different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I really really recommend you you try to get on

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>a jury. Plus, you could end any common sense whatsoever

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>we need you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you could end up on the other end of

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 4>this someday where you didn't do anything. Do you want

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of numb nuts making the decision?

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, six to eight weeks, I mean,

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of us who that that would not do.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't do it.

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 3>No, I couldn't single parent, Yeah, full time.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Primary care or is just somebody with the nature of

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 2>their work.

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>You can't have Jim cover your accounts while you're out

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>for six weeks. You're a sole proprietor for a proprietor,

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 1>for instance, or you do a radio show slash podcast

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and nobody could come.

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Close to your brilliance to fill in. Uh so, yeah,

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 2>it's tough, but it's important.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not a guy who's I don't think would be

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<v Speaker 4>shocked by any of the stuff that's going to come

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<v Speaker 4>out of this trial.

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 3>But there are probably jurors on there. I'm like trying

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 3>to picture my mom or somebody.

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Who might be like, I mean, really kind of hard

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to wrap their heads around what they're talking about.

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yes, yeah.

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>There are occasional discussions of having professional jurors in this

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>country to simplify things and not have to run through

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>zillions of people who are trying to make excuses and get.

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Out of it.

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah. It's just a whole rigmarole. It's an

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>intriguing notion. There's some pretty strong pros and some cons.

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>But tell you what, if that were the deal man,

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>when and if I ever retire from this dead end gig,

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I could absolutely see doing that being a professional juror.

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want to work full time all the time.

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>But oh it's so interesting.

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 4>Hey, so is there a racial element to this. You know,

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 4>the whole OJ thing really turned into a black white

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.479
<v Speaker 4>you know, the riots afterwards and everything like that. And

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 4>is there a racial element to this? Is is black

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 4>community standing up for Diddy Combs or is he not?

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 4>Is that not the thing here?

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Katie, have you heard anything like that.

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I've been unaware of any dynamics like that, which doesn't

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>prove anything.

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 5>But the only person I've seen charing for Diddy is Kanye.

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, I agree, which is not like somebody you

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 3>want on.

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Your side, not see sympathizer. Yes, not the best look. Hey,

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>thanks for the offer, yea, but yee yay ye But yeah,

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet Ya shows up at the courthouse at some point.

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>He is going to be out front there at some

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>point doing it. We were in his clan robes yelling

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>about Hitler is all blat not helpful.

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 3>Hey, you're not helping. You're not helping me here with

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 3>the klan that.

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>You think you're helping.

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>And I appreciate it, But you and your clan robe

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and your heile Hitler go.

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Trump is headed to the Middle East. You might be

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 4>getting a new plane from the uh from who Qatar?

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 4>It's going to provide him with a plane. That's kind

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 4>of a story that the left's really into right now.

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if.

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>It's well, he's good. They're going to lend it to

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>him as Air Force one.

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Then when he's out office, he'll just keep it.

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 4>Theoretically, Okay, now, okay, we got a bunch of stuffed update.

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 3>You want to stay here.

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 8>So for the first time in many years, we'll slash

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 8>the costs of prescription drugs, and we will bring fairness

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 8>to America.

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Drug prices will come down by much more.

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 8>Really, if you think fifty nine if you if you

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 8>think of a drug that is sometimes ten times more expensive,

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 8>it's much more than the fifty nine percent. You know,

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 8>it depends on the way you want to addle, but

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 8>in one way, you could analyze.

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 3>It that way.

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 8>But between fifty nine and eighty and I guess even

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 8>ninety percent, I don't.

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Know what any of those numbers mean.

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 4>But President Trump signed an executive order that are supposed

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 4>to really slash.

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Prescription drug prices. He signed it today.

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 4>Now, he tried to do the same thing in the

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 4>first term, but the court stopped him, saying he doesn't

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 4>have the ability to do that.

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he feels he has the ability

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 3>to do it.

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 4>Here, it's another example of something that you know, Congress

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 4>could write a law about him, could be a permanent

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 4>part of our lives.

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 3>But we don't do things like that anymore.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, I've got to admit I'm torn on this topic.

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I've heard some pretty steady role in reliable people say

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>we're removing the innovation, the R and D, the incentive

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to come up with groundbreaking new drugs, and Trump is saying, now,

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>that's that's not truel.

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 2>We're getting ripped off.

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm completely at sea, and I think ninety nine percent

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 4>of people are on all this stuff. I mean, I

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 4>don't have this lightest idea what things cost.

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I got.

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm on eight different drugs for my whooping cough. Now eight.

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 4>I was at the doctor for three hours on Saturday,

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 4>lots of drugs. I went and picked up four Saturday afternoon.

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 4>They ranged in price that I paid, that I had

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 4>to hand money over to someone. They ranged in price

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 4>from zero to thirty five cents to forty eight dollars

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 4>and I just pay it just like everybody else does.

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 4>Why is that one forty eight why is that one zero?

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't have any idea. I don't question it. What

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 4>am I gonna try to figure out?

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:35.479
<v Speaker 2>Why?

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 3>Where would you even start?

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 2>And who's paying how much?

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>To a pharmacy or a pharmacy benefits manager, an insurance

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>company or whatever.

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I don't know if that one that cost

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 4>me thirty six cents was outrageously priced that my insurance

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 4>company picked up but is now spreading that cost among I.

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Don't have any idea, and neither to you.

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 4>And so yeah, I don't even know what it means

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 4>when he says I'm gonna low or prescription drug costs.

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 3>I have insurance and my drugs don't cost much, So.

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Right, it doesn't mean they don't cost

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 2>me much.

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 4>They might be costing a ton of money, and it

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 4>might be horrible, and we might be all getting ripped off,

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 4>and we're all paying way too much for insured and

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 4>my insure, my premiums are high enough, my deductible's insane.

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's because insurance the drugs are too high.

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, and I'm never gonna sit down

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to figure it out either. No, in every good and

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>thorough explanation I've ever gotten of how our health system works,

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>including the government's involvement in it. You go through it's

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>like the stages of accepting death. I mean, there's the

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>eyes glazing, then there's the anger, then there's the discouragement

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>and the sadness, and you realize not all. Not only

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>do I know this system is crazy and confusing. I

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>know I will never be able to understand it. It

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>is so complex and mobbed up.

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh, and I got a lot.

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to be discouraging it just is.

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 3>I got a letter the other day on some medical bill.

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 4>They're gonna turn it over to collections because I owe

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 4>five dollars in twenty four cents that somehow slipped through

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 4>the cracks of and I tried to pay it, and

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 4>that I punched in the code of the account I've got.

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 3>And they claim it doesn't exist. I know I've done

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 3>this before.

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 2>It's five dollars and twenty four cents.

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Good freaking God, and I have no idea what I

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>was from or where.

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 2>That sort of stuff is just nuts.

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Yeah, that's what pushes people toward wanting a single

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.799
<v Speaker 4>pair system. But I guarantee you a single pair system

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 4>is gonna feel a lot like being at the DMV.

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.720
<v Speaker 4>You might not be paying out of pocket per time

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 4>the same way, but the hassle paperwork getting denied will

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:34.879
<v Speaker 4>be insane.

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>So love a lot of what Trump's doing on a

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:43.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of different fronts, but the whole having a tariff

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>against foreign movies to help out Hollywood's saying, there's rather

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 1>a good argument against that. I would like to make

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<v Speaker 1>grab it fire podcast Armstrong.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get you on demand. You probably ought to subscribe.

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<v Speaker 3>I just read a detail from the Diddy trial today.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the women is going to explain, Gee ros So,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's stuff there that was shocked the conscience

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<v Speaker 4>of anybody but a merchant marine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not sure we want to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not going to tell you about it. We

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<v Speaker 3>got more an hour four. If you don't get it,

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<v Speaker 3>get to the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty