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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. How does a twenty month old,

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Speaker 1: I was wearing crocs, running along the babies are us

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Speaker 1: And then out from behind one of the aisles, my

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Speaker 1: But that lasted that whole episode lasted a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: How does your son disappear and you don't know where

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Speaker 1: being with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM

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Speaker 1: one eleven. The whole thing start. Listen. Mother at call

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Speaker 1: was missing from his pack and play. Quinton was last

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Speaker 1: learned a lot with me an All Star panel to

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Speaker 1: make sense of what we know right now about Quentin Simon,

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Speaker 1: just twenty months old, missing. But first I want to

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Speaker 1: a reporter w SAV News three and News Nation affiliate. Brett,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. First of all, do

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Speaker 1: you have children? Number one? Oh? My goodness, No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a packing play? I have, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: tell me, Brett Buffington how tall he is? Now? Very

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Speaker 1: judging by the pictures that we've been able to take

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Speaker 1: But Quentin's grandfather said he didn't even know how to

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Speaker 1: packing play. John W. Deal is with me. He's the

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Speaker 1: probably profile lawyer out of Winter Park, author of the

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Speaker 1: method Proven Techniques for Winning Jury Troucy's at johnw dial

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Speaker 1: dot com. Also with me Karen el Smith, forensic expert,

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Speaker 1: Forensic Guys Jump in. But I'm thinking back on a

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Speaker 1: I think they certainly were thinking that they had to

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Speaker 1: get everybody's stories with an eye towards foul play, maybe

427
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,239
Speaker 1: get obviously get them separated so they could compare all

428
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Speaker 1: the different stories and see what added up to the

429
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: actual facts. So it's pretty clear for everybody that went

430
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: on the scene, somebody's not right. Yeah, something's not right.

431
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: But you typically, I mean, let's look at John and

432
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: a Ramsey, how that was bungled. Everybody in that moment

433
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 1: should have been separated, whether you suspect foul play or not,

434
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: absolutely to get their story so you won't be influenced

435
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: by what your mother or your father or your brother said.

436
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that when you don't

437
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: really remember that, but you're being influenced. Yeah, and listened

438
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: to the story and then fell in their story if

439
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: they had something to do with it. Yeah, that's absolutely

440
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 1: what can happen with a group interview like that. Exactly

441
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: you were hearing Brett Buffington, you know, Brett joining me

442
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: say a News Nation affiliate, Brett. Nobody could say other

443
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: than the boyfriend who got up and left at six am.

444
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 1: No one saw Quentin. Other than him until everybody realized

445
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: he was missing. That's the story that the family told me,

446
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: and that's the story that the police told everyone. And

447
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: this gap from six am to nine forty two am

448
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: and no one knows where this baby is. At least

449
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: that was their story, because doesn't anybody have to get

450
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: up and go to work other than the boyfriend. We

451
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: were talking about the search warrant just a little earlier.

452
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: Grandma was in Illinois, Grandpa was in South Carolina. They

453
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: owned the house. They were there working to provide for

454
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: his family, and so they didn't Grandpa didn't get there

455
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: Jil that evening and Grandma and not Joel late that night.

456
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: They weren't home. They were out of state, but they

457
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: lived there, that's correct. I'm not sure what their jobs are.

458
00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: Grandpa works in some kind of service job. He has

459
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: a workshop that he was driving. I'm not sure what

460
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: the grandmother does. But day more there And I think

461
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons that police filed the search

462
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: warrants so fast, is the people who owned the home. Yeah,

463
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: and of course, as we all know, are you legal legals.

464
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: If anybody allows says yes, you can come search, it

465
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be the homeowner or the name on

466
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: the lease. But that said, that's making it more clear

467
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: why I've already saw the head of a search warrant.

468
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: Now hold on just a moment, take a listen our

469
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: friends at WSAV. This video is absolutely jarrish that it

470
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: shows the desperation of the people who love Quentin. Simon,

471
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: You're gonna memorial not Baby's not dead. Quentin's grandmother and

472
00:27:50,560 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: Quentin's babysitter's house. The intense moments recorded by Dana McCarthy's daughter.

473
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: Dana says Quentin's grandmother barged through her back door, mad

474
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: over the thought of a memorial for the missing toddler.

475
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: My okay, what was that? I know that the last

476
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: voice was the grandmother yelling, my baby's not dead. So

477
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: this sounds to me like a Cindy Anthony situation where

478
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: the grandmother looks at Quintin as her baby. Right absolutely,

479
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: because Brett a million times my mother has said has

480
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: referred to my children as her babies. And I'm fine

481
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: with that. The more love they can get, the better.

482
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: So what is all the screaming going on about? You

483
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: know what, if we're having this case, technically grandmother did

484
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: have legal custody of Quentin. That was her child. That said,

485
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: she told me that in her interviews with us, she's

486
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 1: talked to me Lisa the phone liston text, but when

487
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: I talked to her with the camera and she didn't

488
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Speaker 1: say that this is my child. She really had a

489
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: connection to who is she arguing with who wanted to

490
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: have a memorial? The other lady who loves quitting so much,

491
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: and we know that is the baby sit there, Dana Macarta,

492
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: Diana Macarta, and she was sitting in her house. This

493
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: was Saturday, a week ago when grandma barged in the

494
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: back door. Of course, they're very upset, they're very emotional,

495
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: and when you get media for a team to come

496
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: through there, there's TV reporters in front of your house.

497
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: So obviously they have been emotionally drained. And you could

498
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: case if you've listened to that entire clip, you can

499
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: hear the emotion and they care. But she barged in

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00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: the babysitter's house and they just had a screaming badge

501
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: at each other. Well, I gotta tell you again, that

502
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: reminds me John Deale, this is your neck of the woods.

503
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: They Cally Anthony Case because I've got to tell you,

504
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: I've met George and Cinda Anthony, and I know a

505
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: lot of people don't think this, but they're perfectly nice people.

506
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: And they have been absolutely death stated, without question about

507
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: and Kelly's death, and they've been videoed over and over

508
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: and this have been played a million times where they're

509
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: yelling at the news media. They were so heartbroken and

510
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: angry and didn't understand what had happened. And the news

511
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: media was camp literally at the edge of their lawn,

512
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: and their front yard's not that big. You can't even

513
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: go out the door without the media yelling at you.

514
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: And at one point George and or Cindy were out

515
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: there yelling at the media to go away, and that's

516
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: how they were portrayed. I completely understand it, and I

517
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: get this grandma going crazy on the babysitter, just you know,

518
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: you don't know what's happening, and you're at the end

519
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: of your rope and you just explode right exactly. I mean,

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00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: it's it's eerily similar to that situation that obviously Cindy

521
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: Anthony was the one who was leading the charge for

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Speaker 1: the search. George was obviously devastated. Then we had that

523
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: their daughter, the mother of Keiley, was acting obviously erratically,

524
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: So it was I can imagine the pressure, but we we

525
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: can't imagine the pressure they were under. And just like

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00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: hearing that grandmother, I can hear it intense pressure. Okay,

527
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: with this pot pourri of emotions and facts that don't

528
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: fit together, I get what's coming down. Take a listen

529
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: to our friends at WJCL. For the first time today,

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00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: Channam County Police chief said there is a possible criminal

531
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: element to this case. But still five days in Quentin

532
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: is missing. We have you're hearing Chennam County Police dispatchers

533
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: on Wednesday morning, when Quentin Simmon went missing from his

534
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: buck Culture Road home in Savannah, A plain of us,

535
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: her one year old son is missing. Will Her door

536
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: was open, but I think he's unable to open a door.

537
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: Scene one came in and from pound. Fast forward five

538
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: days to Monday. Everybody is being looked at, Everybody is

539
00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: being interviewed. Time stories with Nancy Grace. You know, I'm

540
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: just thinking through what you told me earlier, Bret Buffington.

541
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: Now they think there's a criminal element to Quinton's disappearance.

542
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: If the grandma has legal custody, the grandma is out

543
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: of town and the grandpa is out of town. I

544
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: guess that's why they have the babysitter so often that

545
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: the grandmother has arranged. Who was watching Quinton the morning

546
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: he disappeared? Mom? How long have the grandma been gone?

547
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: Was she gone overnight? Oh? Very sure. I don't know

548
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: exactly how a long. She told us that she got

549
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: the news and she got back to Georgia's fast as

550
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: she could. But I mean, obviously overnight baby goes missing

551
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: on mommy's watch, that's correct. Another thing about mommy, Brett Buffington,

552
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: heyst of the panel, Please don't sit back and sip

553
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: your latte. Jump in, Bret Buffington. Another thing, is it

554
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: the mother Leilanie Simon, this is Quentin's bio mom. Didn't

555
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: she say that? She the one that said the bio

556
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: dad came into Quintin and her parents, her stepdad and

557
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: mister Thomas, and her mom both told me that there

558
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: was absolutely no way that happened. That the bio dad

559
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: hadn't been in bobbed this kid's life since he was born.

560
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: So that's not just a mix up where she thought, oh,

561
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Speaker 1: this was the day he was going to come pick

562
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: up Quentin. Oh no, no, no, note, Okay, I don't

563
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: like that at all. It was incredible police work. They

564
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: had this ninety two in the morning. On Wednesday, at

565
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: two thirty they announced they cleared the dad, nobing to

566
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: do with him. Okay, guys, le's turned into a criminal

567
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: investigation or it's heading that way. Take a listen to

568
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: Diana mccarta. This is the babysitter. A lot of people

569
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: are saying, well, you're the babysitter. You should have did more. Look,

570
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: I did well. I thought was best. Defects was aware

571
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Speaker 1: of the situation. People can say no, they wasn't or

572
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: they would have took him. Look, I don't know all

573
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: the circumstances, but I know Defects was aware, and I

574
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: know that I did contact the grandmother Alat via text

575
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: or calling because she had custody. Defects was aware of this.

576
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: I think that she's trying to take the heat off

577
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: of them. Diana talking with us today, telling me she's

578
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: called Georgia's Department of Family and Children's Services about Quentin

579
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: and his siblings before Defects told you there was a case. Yes, absolutely,

580
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Diana isn't the only neighbor here to tell us they

581
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: were concerned about the children in this home. I was

582
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: afraid she would go and get it, yet afraid that

583
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: the baby would be hit by an oncoming car. Was

584
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: that the problem on Brett Buffington neighbors were afraid the

585
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: children were out in the yard and on the street

586
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: too much. We know the neighbors, the babies that are,

587
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: they had all reached out to Defects, according to what

588
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: the babies that are told me, And there was an

589
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: open Defects investigation according to what Diana said. And yet

590
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: we know that the calls from the neighbors were because

591
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: they saw the children out in the yard unsupervised. Okay,

592
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: so it was an issue of non supervision. That's why

593
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: Defects kept getting getting called to do what Diana told me,

594
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: guess said, there was just so many people in that

595
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: little neighborhood. They're worried that one of them was going

596
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: to get industry and something bad would happen. And I guess,

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00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: once again, doctor Angie Arnold, Defects did nothing right. Well.

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Speaker 1: One of the comments that I want to make first

599
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: of all, Nancy, is you know, it's very difficult for

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Speaker 1: people to call Defects. Nobody wants to call defects. I

601
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: call them all the time. I don't know what you're

602
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: talking about, do you really? Yeah, well, I think it's

603
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: hard for neighbors to do something like that. So, but

604
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: that would mean to me, if the neighbors are doing it,

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00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: this was happening a lot. Actually I correct, let me

606
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: correct myself. I've called nine one one many times. If

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00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: I see, for instance, parents on the side of the interstate,

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00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: you know when you're on off ramp, trying to get

609
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: money and they got their babies. There are people wandering

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00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: and parking lots trying to get money, or children wandering

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00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: alone and a parking lot. Yeah, I don't have any

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00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 1: problem with it. I understand that. But really and truly, Nancy, psychologically,

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00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more difficult for the people that

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00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: live around you to actually call defects. So what so

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00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: what that means is this was this was a really bad,

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00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: ongoing problem. These children were not being supervised. And we

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00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: can play around with that term of you know, what

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00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: was that term that you used about just wild children

619
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Speaker 1: being really range free range, I like free range chickens.

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00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: That's certainly putting perfume on a pig. I get you.

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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying that neighbors don't want to

622
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: rat each other out, but apparently these neighbors were more

623
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Speaker 1: concerned about Quentin and what they know. Guys, um, I

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Speaker 1: want to take Listen to our cut, Jackie, please play

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00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: Police Chief Jeff Haddling our cut twenty three. Our investigation

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Speaker 1: over the last eight days has led us to the

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Speaker 1: heartbreaking conclusion that twenty month old Quentin Simon is deceased.

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Speaker 1: We have named his mother, Lelani Simon, as a primary

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Speaker 1: suspect in Quentin's disappearance and death. We have not made

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Speaker 1: in the rest or filed any charges at this time

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Speaker 1: and more in our cut twenty seven, twenty eight. I

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Speaker 1: cannot get into any specifics relative to evidence what I can.

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Speaker 1: What I can say is the evidence that we have

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Speaker 1: so far, based on multiple search, warrants and interviews, has

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Speaker 1: led us to the conclusion that Quentin is deceased. The

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Speaker 1: investigation doesn't end, you know, right there. We will continue

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Speaker 1: investigative reporter, to w SAV News Nation affiliate, why are

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Speaker 1: all eras pointing toward the mom? Police came out and

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Speaker 1: get into any of the details we'd pressure to them.

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Speaker 1: I asked the police chiefs at that press conference, you're

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Speaker 1: telling us that you think you have a dead child.

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Speaker 1: Now you have nobody. You have all these people who

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Speaker 1: are so concerned about this little boy. Tell them why

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Speaker 1: you no longer think they're gonna he's gonna come home

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Speaker 1: and he's that. I can't. I'm not going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the evidence we have, but there's something that let

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Speaker 1: us believe that Quinton is that also, Nancy, When a

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Speaker 1: the victim's parents or step arent. That is written in stone.

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Speaker 1: Right now, tensions are running high in the search for

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Speaker 1: Quentin Simon. We know that the bio mom, the mother

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Speaker 1: Leilani Simon, is now considered suspect number one, and police

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Speaker 1: are telling us without a reason, they believe this baby

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Speaker 1: is dead. We pray that is not true and wait

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Speaker 1: for justice to unfold. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off.

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