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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. It's a Wednesday edition of Morning Combat,

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Speaker 1: and we intended to talk about many things today, including

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Speaker 1: BC the fact that it's my daughter's third birthday. Happy

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Speaker 1: birthday for Lis to my daughter Violetta. But we have

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Speaker 1: business to attend to. Hello everyone, I'm one half of

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Speaker 1: the Morning Combat hosting duo. My name is Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 1: joined on the other side of the screen by the

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Speaker 1: Viceroy of Connecticut, my friend and yours. He's very chatty

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Speaker 1: this morning, very chatty. It's Brian Campbell. What's up BC?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Luke, Apparently I made a bunch of our employees

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable on this morning's pre zoom call. But I'm here

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Speaker 2: to provide the same compliment to our viewers as well

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours when we've got a fantastic

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Speaker 2: show on this thump day, Luke. In fact, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: put you in that chair, Luke. Okay, I don't mean

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Speaker 2: the electric chair, but it might as well be the

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Speaker 2: MK equivalent. When you sit down and play a little

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Speaker 2: truth or trivia.

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Speaker 1: Brother, Oh shit, truth or trivia. We'll do that today.

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Speaker 1: Are we doing fan subs as well or not? Yes,

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Speaker 1: we are fan subs as well. So we have a busy,

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Speaker 1: busy Wednesday show for you with a slate of weekend

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Speaker 1: fights that are it's a couple of decent there's actually

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Speaker 1: a couple of good fights, but mostly on the boxing side.

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Speaker 1: The MMA this weekend.

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Speaker 2: It's a great weekend for boxing. Main events great okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, MMA, good main event. Actually I will not hate

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Speaker 1: on the main event. The main event is legit, but

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Speaker 1: everything else is not that money. All right, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about it just the.

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Speaker 2: Same saying bassa Luke.

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Speaker 1: It's trash. You know. That's so it's very disrespectful to

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Speaker 1: call it trash. But let's put it this way. There's

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Speaker 1: not much star power on these cards. Not much star power,

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Speaker 1: Okay, nice quality, Yeah, it is nice quality. And we

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Speaker 2: One more thing, Luke. Yes, it's a big week for comedy,

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Speaker 2: your appearance on Brendan Shop's thickpoy Nation Pod. I think

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Speaker 1: Okay, It's like, I don't know how true. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm ready to get this party started, Luke. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the I'm the it's my party, all right, let's do it, okay,

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Speaker 2: Because it's a great weekend for the box, Luke, I

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Speaker 2: I mean, same goals I had as a teenager, Luke,

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Speaker 1: I say? What is it? You are hr great sport? Luke? Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's the best sport. Maybe. All right, let's start with

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Speaker 1: Uh VC Topic number one, we start with the UFC

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Now, as I mentioned the card itself again

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Speaker 1: There's very little star power on the card and a

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Speaker 1: the main event. The main event is pretty great, actually,

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Speaker 1: in fact, I love it Rob Font at Bantamwaite taking

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Speaker 1: planting Frankie Edgar with a front kick. If your cheeto,

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Speaker 1: Vera ain't too bad either. Both of these guys are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's for absolute legitimacy and to prove that they're

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Speaker 2: putting these fights out and this main event it is

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Speaker 2: must see, Luke, and I think it's for legitimacy above

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Speaker 2: all else. They're both battle tested. They both won and

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Speaker 2: at these betting odds, they really reflect how good this

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Speaker 1: A little bit? Yeah, yeah, probably a because the odds

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Speaker 1: So it's not like you can't it's not like you

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Speaker 1: But you know, fonsibility and we'll talk more about this

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Speaker 1: Chieto Vera a little bit more of a wide open style,

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Speaker 1: and Font might be I have to look at the numbers.

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Speaker 1: just four point eight, which is still high for Marlon Vera. Dude,

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Speaker 1: he gets busy behind that thing. But I think I

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Speaker 1: For Vera, this is a much bigger fight than I

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Speaker 1: would say for Font. Font beat garb Brandt then tasted

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Speaker 1: dil Shaw, then it's Aldo, then it's Sandhagen. All four

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Speaker 1: the other guy that's a little debatable, but they're all

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Speaker 1: pretty close. You enter just south of that territory, just

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Speaker 1: south of that top four fray, that would be new

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Speaker 1: territory for Marlon Vera, and I would argue the biggest

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no question, it'd be three wins in a row.

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Speaker 2: It'd be the biggest win of his career. He is

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Speaker 2: and really welcome all killers from here on out, whether

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Speaker 2: it's the number six rank, Morob de Villa, Shilly Luke.

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Speaker 2: How am I saying that right or wrong?

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Speaker 1: Because I always I always thought it was devolish viely,

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Speaker 1: it would be the Wallash Wheelie.

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Speaker 2: There ain't no, there ain't no chance in hell it's

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Speaker 2: the Wallash Wheelie Luke.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's how they said. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: that's how I say on the broadcast. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't be hanging out with Luke until

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Speaker 2: you send me an audio file of your wife attempting

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Speaker 2: to pronounce pronounce a name, Luke, that's you.

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Speaker 1: No. I just know people are stupid and they think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna dead wrong me. So I want to get

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Speaker 1: unimpeachable resume. But since the sunsl loss, he beat Pettis,

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Speaker 1: I think Neil accepts a little bit more risk with

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Speaker 2: It was a really Luke, it was a reach. Okay,

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Speaker 1: One, I'll say this, I'll say this like it would

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Speaker 1: It's one of the three Bolvarian states, which is why

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Speaker 2: The lady who cuts my hair is from Ecuador.

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Speaker 1: This weekend, he takes on Jake Collier, who is a

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Speaker 1: High expectations for this one. I can't imagine that you do.

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Speaker 1: But Arlowski has proven to be a very, very durable guy. Dude.

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Speaker 2: UFC loves doing this. When they have a shitty esque

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Speaker 2: They have to be in the main co main event. Look, no,

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Speaker 2: is this another winderful, winnable fight for Alavski? And this

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Speaker 2: his twilight after the twilight, Luke, Yes, it is so

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Speaker 2: some potential bangers, Luke, including Touchy Feely against Joe Anderson Brito,

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Speaker 2: says Elkins against Tristan Connolly, Who's that guy? Luke that

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Speaker 2: guessed out me? Isn't that the guy that guessed out

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know another way for me

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I can look that up. But there's

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Speaker 2: this card? Luke, does do any of those move you?

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Speaker 2: As does Christoph Jotco against Gerald MEERSHARDA. That's it. That's

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Speaker 1: I would say a couple things that would point to

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Speaker 1: tougher fight than Edson Barboza. Now Bryce Mitchell won that

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Speaker 1: think in his UFC debut, Joy Anderson Brito. That's an

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Speaker 1: interesting fight. A couple of the ones to pay attention to.

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Speaker 1: This dude, Johann le NeSSI. I'm not sure how he

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Speaker 1: other one I undefeated out of Valetudo Japan. Tetsuro. I'm

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Speaker 1: He's undefeated again, prospect out of the flyweight out of Japan.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like a good looking dude to see how

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Speaker 1: far he can go, because what he's shown so far

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Speaker 2: With you, Yeah, Luke, Tristan Connelly guessed out Michelle Paedaeda

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Speaker 2: Now he's down to featherweight, so that should be an

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Speaker 2: interesting But yeah, Luke, this is really as I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like when you walk into Cumberland Farms

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Speaker 2: and you're hoping, dude, you're fucking hoping they got those

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Speaker 2: grill the grillers, the roller. You know, you you're hoping,

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Speaker 2: and then all they have, Luke is are hot dogs

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Speaker 2: and you're like, you know, I mean, I'll take it right.

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Speaker 2: You know, It's like it's not good for me, but

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Speaker 2: I'll take it.

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Speaker 1: That's about how I feel. I mean, there's the main

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Speaker 2: You know event double Jim pretty good, Luke it, we're

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Speaker 2: us and all you mm A only fans can tune

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Speaker 2: out now because Luke, this boxing weekend is Studley.

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Speaker 1: It's like me, Yeah, there's two big main events. We'll

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Speaker 1: go in order. First main event, Shaquer Stevenson taking on

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Speaker 1: Oscar Valdez. Second main event Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serano.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Stevenson versus Valdez. BC. Set the table

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Speaker 1: because if you are a boxing fan, they are super

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Speaker 1: excited about this one. Schaquerse Stevenson, who may be the

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Speaker 1: future of the sport. I don't think that's all that

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Speaker 1: crazy to say. He could be could be taking on

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Speaker 1: another hammer in Valdez. Odds are close, but people favor Stevenson.

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Speaker 1: Set the table for MMA fans, who are these guys

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Speaker 1: and why does this fight matter?

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Speaker 2: Two undefeated fighters, both champions at one hundred and thirty pounds,

439
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Speaker 2: looking to unify titles. First time. By the way, this

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Speaker 2: division will have a unified championship out since many Pacquiao

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Speaker 2: was last year in two thousand and nine, So that

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Speaker 2: tells you the distance. Here's why this really matters everything

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Speaker 2: you said about shakers. Stevenson was true silver medalist at

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Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen Olympic Games. You know, maybe had a

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Speaker 2: little hiccups here outside the ring and here or there,

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Speaker 2: had a couple performances that were a little you know, calm,

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Speaker 2: but when he stepped up in class and put his

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Speaker 2: nose to the grindstone, look he's special. In fact, don't

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Speaker 2: forget three fights ago I said, Look, this guy's gonna

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Speaker 2: end up in the power for pound king. Look he's

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Speaker 2: on his way to doing that. I also think he's

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Speaker 2: on his way of rising and weight. A former champion

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Speaker 2: at one twenty six now a champion at one thirty.

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Speaker 2: South Paul Boxer is really I think the only fighter

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Speaker 2: now deserve it of Mayweather praise in comparison. And that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: And I am talking more about pretty boy Floyd, whether

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Speaker 2: the younger version of him than the welterweight money may

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Speaker 2: But the point is we don't compare anybody to void Mayweather.

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Speaker 2: For a reason. But he's got the slickness, the toughness.

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Speaker 2: Not a big power puncher, but just a genius in there.

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Speaker 2: And Luke, he's facing such a style contrast that could

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Speaker 2: be perfect in terms of entertainment, could be and that's

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Speaker 2: Oscar Valdez, who we remember won a title at one

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Speaker 2: twenty six. Stevenson became his mandatory there and Team Stevenson

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Speaker 2: has said all along that Oscar Valdez has been ducking

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Speaker 2: him and that's why he moved up to one thirty.

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Speaker 2: But Luke, he did move up to one thirty and

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Speaker 2: take on the badass at one thirty, Miguel Burschell, and

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Speaker 2: he hammered him. He knocked him the hell out in

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Speaker 2: the knockout of the year. Since then, though, there's the

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Speaker 2: footage from that Robeson Concesile fight in which Oscar Valdez

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Speaker 2: drank the tea that popped him for drugs. The fight

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Speaker 2: still went on controversially. Valdez won a close but disputed decision.

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Speaker 2: So his stock last year was at an all time

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Speaker 2: high after the win over Burchell, but kind of came

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Speaker 2: back down to life. He is trained by Dye Renoso,

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Speaker 2: the manager and trader of Canelo Alvarez and Luke. He

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Speaker 2: is a former brawler who has really figured out how

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Speaker 2: to become a full time boxer puncher. So the ground

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Speaker 2: is set for this because you know Stevenson still claiming

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Speaker 2: that Valdez's team tried to duck him for this fight,

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Speaker 2: that they were trying to get Emmanuel Navarete in the

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Speaker 2: ring for a title fight. We're gonna have it. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be in Las Vegas. The best news for boxing

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Speaker 2: fans as it relates to that other great fight is

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Speaker 2: that top rank in ESPN and Dezone, which is handling

487
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Speaker 2: the women's fight, have agreed to stagger their main events

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Speaker 2: so they're not on at the same time. This is

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Speaker 2: one of those like rare wins for us in the

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Speaker 2: boxing game. But here's ultimately beyond just the fact that

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Speaker 2: it's unbeaten champion versus unbeaten champion in two names that

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Speaker 2: the hardcorees know that are on the verge of breaking through.

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Speaker 2: Here's why this fight really matters. It's because of Stevenson's upside. Luke,

494
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Speaker 2: this is his toughest test to date by far, but

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Speaker 2: when he stepped up in won a world title last

496
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Speaker 2: fight at one thirty against Jamel Hering the Fighting Marine.

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Speaker 2: I mean, dude, he destroyed him. There has been a

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Speaker 2: few times in history where matchups like this have happened.

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Speaker 2: And this is where the Floyd Mayweather comparison comes in.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember? And by the way, this is what

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Speaker 2: this could be a pay per view fight, This really could.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't sell a ton, but it's such a great fight.

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Speaker 2: It could be a pay per view fight and it's not,

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Speaker 2: which is great. But you know what was Floyd Mayweather

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Speaker 2: versus Diego Carlis back in the day, what was it

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Speaker 2: two thousand?

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Speaker 1: That's big? You said, one big?

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Speaker 2: Okay? When they fought, it was considered the toughest challenge

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Speaker 2: by far on Floyd's resume. The experts were split, but

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Speaker 2: a lot of them were picking Diego Corrals by knockout

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Speaker 2: because at that point at that weight class, which I

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Speaker 2: think was one thirty, I could dead wrong me. It

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Speaker 2: could have been featherweight. But the point is they met

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Speaker 2: at a at a huge early point where we were like, okay,

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Speaker 2: if Floyd is for real, dude, he's got to be

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Speaker 2: Corrals and Luke, I mean he pissed on Diego Corles.

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Speaker 2: He knocked him down five times until finally Carles's corner

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Speaker 2: stepped in and through the tonnel and we were like,

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Speaker 2: oh shit, pretty boy, Floyd is not just who we

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Speaker 2: thought he was, Like, he's way better, Luke. The styles

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Speaker 2: match up here where it's not that Valdez is some scrub,

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Speaker 2: it's not that he's slow, it's not that he's a

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Speaker 2: brawler only. But I think Stevenson is so good that

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Speaker 2: even with these odds being close, and even with the

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Speaker 2: high stakes and everything that we love about it, I'm

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Speaker 2: not convinced that that shaquer is not going to go

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Speaker 2: in there and do what Floyd did de Correls or

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Speaker 2: even what Floyd did to Arturo Gotti in their pay

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Speaker 2: per view fight, which they tried to play up to

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Speaker 2: be this big even fight. And if Floyd just jurnal

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Speaker 2: caked him, I cannot wait for this fight for that

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Speaker 2: main reason, Luke, above the style contrast, above everything else.

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Speaker 2: If Shakurr is even better than we think he is,

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Speaker 2: and I'm already calling him a future pound for pound king,

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Speaker 2: so how much better could he be, he may go

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Speaker 2: out there and make this not competitive. And if he does, Luke,

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Speaker 2: you're looking at the next big thing in our sport.

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Speaker 2: I don't so if he ever gets there commercially, that's

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Speaker 2: his own battle. But critically, you're looking at a special

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Speaker 2: young fighter on the rise. This is the right test

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Speaker 2: at the right time. And Luke J. Hager me all

542
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Speaker 2: you want. I'm McGregor at the Mayweather Way and I

543
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Speaker 2: am rock hard with emotion about this fight. I have

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Speaker 2: a phoner and I think you should too.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: You should adopt my life principles and my teachings and

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Speaker 2: get dialed in with your own fight erection and get

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Speaker 2: ready for this on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It's weird that we're here talking about our mutual fighter erections.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's good for business or not.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not like I said, I have a

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Speaker 2: fight direction for the other fight. Then we would have

553
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Speaker 2: some HR issues. I think this is acceptable for me

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Speaker 2: to speak like this on a fight this good, Luke, Okay.

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Speaker 1: A couple of questions. One what has Eddie Reinoso done

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Speaker 1: in terms of fighter development for Valdez? And two can

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Speaker 1: you give us a sense? I mean, you're comparing him

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Speaker 1: to Mayweather, but in a sense, but Stevenson seems to

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Speaker 1: be far more offensive. So from a US style matchup.

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Speaker 1: You indicated why it could get interesting. Can you drill

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Speaker 1: down a little bit more and specifically speak to Reinoso's

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Speaker 1: handiwork with Valdez.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Renezso has made Valdez better. There's no question the

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Speaker 2: Valdez at won twenty six while still an unbeaten champion.

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Speaker 2: We started to see his ceiling. He went in there

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Speaker 2: against Scott Quick. It's a great fight. Revisit it. Valdez

567
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Speaker 2: got his broad Joe jaw broken early and just fought

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Speaker 2: through it. Luke, he was way.

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Speaker 1: Cute, insane. I've seen it in MMA, but that's always insane.

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Speaker 2: It's insane. I mean, he's tough as shit, and Luke,

571
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Speaker 2: he gutted through and he won that fight. But I

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Speaker 2: think at that point we were like, Okay, we know

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Speaker 2: who who Oscar Valdez is. We know his ceiling. It's

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Speaker 2: why he was such a big underdog coming into that

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Speaker 2: Miguel Burchell fight, moving up in Wait known as a

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Speaker 2: brawler who doesn't have monster power. I think what what

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Speaker 2: Eddie Renoso and team Canelo has done is really help

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Speaker 2: him sharpen his skills. Because Luke, he didn't go out

579
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Speaker 2: there guns blazing recklessly to put away Burchell, but he

580
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Speaker 2: was hurting him with with with controlled poised you know,

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Speaker 2: darting in and out with combinations and landing pinpoint sharp punches.

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Speaker 2: And yes, burchellt was weight drained event, you know. I

583
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Speaker 2: mean he's had a problem making wait, Harry, despite his

584
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Speaker 2: long reign, and now Burchell looks like he's on his

585
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Speaker 2: way out of the sport. To be fair, he's going

586
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Speaker 2: down the wrong road. But Valdez is sharper than he's

587
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Speaker 2: ever been and it's brought back the boxer in him

588
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Speaker 2: because look after that quick fight, Valdez was openly considering like,

589
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Speaker 2: hey man, I may have to change, I may have

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Speaker 2: to become more of a boxer. And by the way,

591
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Speaker 2: he's got the amateur pedigree from Nogaullas, Mexico on the

592
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Speaker 2: border there. He is absolutely legit, but he loves the brawl.

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Speaker 2: He's a Mexican at heart. Luke, I mean, there's no

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Speaker 2: shame there. But I think you know, Renoso in company

595
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Speaker 2: has made him sharper. So it's not as if you know,

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Speaker 2: Shakur is gonna come in there right off the start

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Speaker 2: and commit surgery on him and just pick him apart.

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Speaker 2: There's potential for Harry moments, which is why you love

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Speaker 2: this fight. But don't forget why I make that distinction

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Speaker 2: between pretty boy Food and the lower waight classes and

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Speaker 2: Mayweather at welterweight. Yeah, I mean he made big money

602
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Speaker 2: at welterweight and beyond, but he was defensive, pot shotting, slick.

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Speaker 2: People forget younger Mayweather win after it, even though he's

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00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: a pure boxer at heart. Combination punching, offensive surging. When

605
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Speaker 2: he had somebody heard, he got them out of there

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Speaker 2: before his hand injuries. Of course, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: that in young Shakur, even though he's not considered a

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Speaker 2: puncher as well, Luke, because he showed damn sharp himself.

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Speaker 2: So it's certainly going to be up to Valdez to

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Speaker 2: offset what will be a fairly firm hand and foot

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Speaker 2: speed disadvantage between the two of them, because Schague Steven's

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Speaker 2: a ten out Stevenson is a ten out of ten

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Speaker 2: in those areas. But you know, can Valdez land big

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Speaker 2: countershots and try to discipline Shakur because if he doesn't, Luke,

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Speaker 2: that's where this long term could become a surgical dissection.

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Speaker 2: Only again, we don't have like evidence of Valdez succumbing

617
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Speaker 2: to this. He fought, He's fought through. Everything is Shakur.

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Speaker 2: That's Stevenson, that great where he can create that divide.

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Speaker 2: That's what you want to see, Luke. But as it

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Speaker 2: at its core, Oscar val does not the same boxer

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Speaker 2: technically that the sugar Stevens, and he doesn't have the

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Speaker 2: same speed even though he brings bigger power. So take

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Speaker 2: all of those mathematic medical equations and figure out for

624
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Speaker 2: yourself what you expect to see. Either way, it's either

625
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: gonna be the best showcase possible for Shakur or it's

626
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: gonna be a great fight. And I you know, either way,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be entertained. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Now. Let me use something Eddie Hearn said about that

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Speaker 1: fight as a bridge between this main event and the

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Speaker 1: one on his own. Eddie Hearn said something that I thought,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's got his own fights to promote. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he's wrong, which is he was

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Speaker 1: complimentary of the fight itself between Valdez and Stevenson. Eddie

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Speaker 1: Hearn was like, yeah, it's a great fight. It's a

635
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Speaker 1: legit fight. Those guys are awesome. But more people are

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Speaker 1: talking about Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano. Do you agree

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Speaker 1: even though he is promoting Taylor versus Serrano, So of

638
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Speaker 1: course he's going to say that, don't I don't know

639
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Speaker 1: that he's wrong, BC. Is he right?

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Speaker 2: It's tough to tell. So I did a really fun

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Speaker 2: interview this morning half hour with with with some great

642
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Speaker 2: Irish blokes, Luke, and turns out they actually watch our show.

643
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Speaker 2: So it was you know, it was great to talk

644
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Speaker 2: to them, and it was it was Joseph Conroy was

645
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Speaker 2: it was off the ball.

646
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Speaker 1: Off the balls. Yeah, those guys are awesome.

647
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Speaker 2: I love those guys, you know. And they were telling

648
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Speaker 2: me that Taylor and Serrano showed up on the Today

649
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Speaker 2: Show in Manhattan. I mean, that's pretty damn big Luke.

650
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So if you're if you're looking at this from the

652
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Speaker 2: lens of what it is and why we should put

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Speaker 2: it up there, Taylor versus Serrano one versus two pound

654
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Speaker 2: for pound on the women's side, and because of that,

655
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Speaker 2: because there's two all time greats here in the same

656
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Speaker 2: division at the same time, we're we're looking at legitimately

657
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Speaker 2: the best women's fight of all time on paper. I'm

658
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Speaker 2: not kidding you. Know, Leila Lei versus who Christy Martin

659
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: it was a draw. You know, there's been other matchups

660
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Speaker 2: of great women female fighters, but we don't have a

661
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Speaker 2: long history of anything more than a few female fighters

662
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Speaker 2: who were draws or like Ann Wolf, who were destructive,

663
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Speaker 2: but they didn't always face each other. There wasn't a

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Speaker 2: large group of them. This is the fight that could

665
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Speaker 2: kickstart a new era of women's boxing. That is just

666
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Speaker 2: you know, getting it closer to how MMA treats women's

667
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Speaker 2: fighters and in the in the parody there and the

668
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Speaker 2: the you know the So is it bigger in that

669
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Speaker 2: sense than Stevenson versus aout us? For sure? But you

670
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Speaker 2: know you asked the hardcore fans which one they're more

671
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Speaker 2: excited about. I think you have to go to this

672
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Speaker 2: top rank bout in Las Vegas on Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're not equivalent, right Like, on the one side,

674
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Speaker 1: we're saying, we're saying the women's side could be the

675
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Speaker 1: very best women's boxing fight of all time, and certainly

676
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Speaker 1: val Deswerd's stevensaid is a very good main event, but

677
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Speaker 1: no one is making a claim about its status among

678
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Speaker 1: all time all main events. So they're not equivalent. They

679
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Speaker 1: just happened to be taking place on the same weekend.

680
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Speaker 1: I want to make one point to you, BC, and

681
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Speaker 1: I see what you think about it, and I see,

682
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Speaker 1: just real quickly you mentioned they were going to be

683
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Speaker 1: in the Today Show. You know, Eddie hern is a

684
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Speaker 1: capable promoter. We should maybe give Jake Paul a little

685
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Speaker 1: bit of credit, not just for blowing up Amanda Serrano's profile,

686
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Speaker 1: which he is. I mean, no, no critic could deny

687
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Speaker 1: that he did that. He absolutely did. But dude, he's

688
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Speaker 1: kind of putting the full court press on this fight

689
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Speaker 1: as well, and I think it's getting a lot more

690
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Speaker 1: attention than it otherwise would still would get a lot,

691
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Speaker 1: But honestly, his involve it is making a difference for

692
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Speaker 1: the better and we should say it out loud.

693
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Speaker 2: Look, Amanda Serrano, until Jake Paul came around, was almost

694
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Speaker 2: despite being the most decorated fighter in women's boxing history,

695
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Speaker 2: titles in five divisions. Look, you already know she'd win

696
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Speaker 2: a title at one eighteen, She won the titles high

697
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Speaker 2: as one forty, and she would bounce around in the

698
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Speaker 2: same calendar year because she wasn't getting the promotional opportunities,

699
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Speaker 2: the money or the exposure straight up, it's where women's

700
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Speaker 2: boxing was. You know, her style is fun to watch,

701
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: she could talk a little bit, but like it just

702
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: wasn't connecting. There wasn't money in the game for female boxing,

703
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: you know, really until the Olympics kicked in allowing female

704
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Speaker 2: and then you saw Coloressa shields to two time gold medals,

705
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Speaker 2: Katie Taylor becoming a global star. They asked me this

706
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Speaker 2: this morning on the show, and I thought it was

707
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Speaker 2: a great question. It's like, you know, what are Jake

708
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: Paul's true intentions here? He's using his huge audience, In fact,

709
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Speaker 2: it's an audience, as we already know, which is not boxing,

710
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Speaker 2: you know, not really not a boxing background, and he's

711
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Speaker 2: giving light. I think it's the same thing with Jake

712
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Speaker 2: when you ask the question about what he's doing with

713
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Speaker 2: UFC Fighter Pay and making that a front page story,

714
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Speaker 2: whether his intentions to be this robin hood of boxing

715
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Speaker 2: are pure and true or not, just like whether his

716
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Speaker 2: intentions to expose EMMA fighter pay is more just to

717
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Speaker 2: try to get those UFC guys in the ring with

718
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Speaker 2: him or not. It's great, it's great for the sport,

719
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Speaker 2: it's great for the fighters, Serrano was fighting on off

720
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Speaker 2: TV undercards, Luke, you know what I'm saying, Like she

721
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Speaker 2: was fighting wherever they'd ever. Now she's on co main

722
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Speaker 2: event pay per views with Jake, making the biggest money

723
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Speaker 2: of her career, and now she's gonna headline Madison Square

724
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Speaker 2: Garden in the main event this Saturday, and the biggest

725
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Speaker 2: women's fight in history, and a fight that actually deserves

726
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Speaker 2: all of this hyperbole we're talking about. Yeah, shout out

727
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Speaker 2: to Jake, Paul, shout out to Eddie Hearn from the

728
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Speaker 2: beginning making the pursuit of promoting Katie Taylor a priority

729
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Speaker 2: to be fair this fight. I mean, they on the

730
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Speaker 2: Today Show. This fight freaking matters. That's great to see.

731
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Speaker 2: But look before we fully transition, it's there one thing

732
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Speaker 2: to close on the Stevenson fight. Part of why I

733
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Speaker 2: can make that storyline that I'm I don't know is

734
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Speaker 2: this Shakuerz coming out party on the level of Floyd

735
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Speaker 2: versus Corrals, Because Luke, are you firm that you know

736
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Speaker 2: exactly who Oscar Valdez is? And I say that because

737
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Speaker 2: he blew away Burchell in such a jump out of

738
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Speaker 2: his skin jump through the TV set. Holy crap. Get

739
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: up to that next level of elite. But dude, then

740
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: he popped for the for the for the you know,

741
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Speaker 2: the tainted supplement and the tea, and then he had

742
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Speaker 2: a very human performance amid all that stress against Conceso.

743
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Speaker 2: You got Sirkurs Stevenson in the pre fight build up saying,

744
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Speaker 2: don't cheat this time. I think if it's you and me,

745
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: Luke were like, hey, Oscar, if there was ever a

746
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: time to drink the tea, drink it for this fight.

747
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Speaker 2: Do you think there's any sort of aberration in there

748
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Speaker 2: that that maybe he was on the gear and that

749
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Speaker 2: Valdez fight was the I mean, the Burchell fight was

750
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Speaker 2: the full bloom of that. I mean, was it just

751
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Speaker 2: a bad night at the office against Concesoo. How do

752
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: you gauge his stock coming into this very much?

753
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Speaker 1: Do I not recall distinctly? And maybe I don't see

754
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Speaker 1: in fact, matter of factly I don't, But I feel

755
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: like I remember after Valdez beat conse Sao, they put

756
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Speaker 1: a microphone in his face and they asked him if

757
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: all the outside pressure was getting to him, because dude,

758
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: the boxing media was raining down on him for what

759
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: were a parent or perceived misdeeds related to doping and

760
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: perhaps other stuff as well. And I think he even

761
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: admitted it did get to him. I think he admitted, like, ugh,

762
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Speaker 1: this was this was a lot. I had a lot

763
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Speaker 1: going on. So I tend to think that that probably

764
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Speaker 1: played a role. Also, conse Sao had a good game

765
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: plan early in that fight anyway, so there was there

766
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: was a little bit of both. But the thing about

767
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: it is, it's like, dude, first of all, you know,

768
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Speaker 1: if you believe that Valdez was on something for the

769
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: consee Soeu fight, I got news for you, that ain't

770
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Speaker 1: the only fight. Again, if he was on it for

771
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Speaker 1: probably if he was on it for the conce Soeu fight,

772
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: he's still on it now. And also, you can reap

773
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Speaker 1: benefits even when you get off of pds, for the

774
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Speaker 1: transformation that it can cause long term. I mean, there's

775
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: a lot of things you can sort of used to

776
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Speaker 1: evaluate that. Again, you can know my view on this.

777
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: I think that drugs are rampant in sports, and we

778
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: all have this pretend ideology where we can clearly sort

779
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: the good from the bad. You cannot. So the point

780
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: I'll say is, if I was Stevenson's team, I would

781
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Speaker 1: count on the guy who showed up against Burchell. To

782
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: be quite honest with you, but the point is it

783
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter, dude, Burchell and Stevenson, that doesn't matter.

784
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: Burchell and Stevenson. They don't fight alike. They don't fight

785
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: at all alike. And I feel like Stevenson is gonna

786
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: over time, if he can withstand any sort of offensive,

787
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: forward moving pressure from Valdez, is going to probably probably

788
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: late eat them alive. I mean, just not the same

789
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: kind of fight.

790
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Speaker 2: I keep making these comparisons of fights. How about flood

791
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Speaker 2: Canelo as a comparison, because you know Valdez is coming

792
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: in withined. I know it was a different circumstance, but look,

793
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: the reason why the odds are closest because Valdez is

794
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: great and this could be a great fight. I'm just

795
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: giving you a potential scenario of Shakura. Either way, you

796
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 2: have to watch this Saturday night ESPN. But Luke, look,

797
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: the women's fight is the bigger story. I mean, look,

798
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Speaker 2: you've been covering both of these combat sports for a

799
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: bunch of years as well. You remember when women's boxing

800
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: was not only not televised, don't even freaking talked if

801
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: it was talked about it was because Hey, remember when

802
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: Christy Martin used to be on pay per views in

803
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: the nineties because of Don King, Like, we didn't talk

804
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 2: about that shit. Are you as just like joyfully surprised

805
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: as I am that we're actually here, this is fight

806
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: week and this is going to be a main event

807
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: at New York's Magison Square Garden, Like not even the theater. Luke,

808
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: the damn right, the damn arena.

809
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Speaker 1: I mean, like, yeah, damn you It's great because you know,

810
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,479
Speaker 1: I've had my complaints about women's boxing, in part because

811
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: it's mismanaged, which is not the fault of the women's boxers.

812
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: In part because you know, they haven't been promoted as

813
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: well as they should have been, which I think deters

814
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: recruiting long term the kind of talent that could make

815
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: women's boxing dynamic. I also think that the gloves are

816
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: too big. But I'll say this, I'll say this as

817
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: a general rule, these two are, if anything, the exception

818
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: to that. They deserve where they're at. Frankly deserve a

819
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: lot more than where they're at. To be quite candid

820
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: with you, but I'm so delighted to see high level

821
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: women's boxing showcased in a way that I can guarantee

822
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: for the fans entertainment and I can guarantee big stakes.

823
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: You have two fighters, one a little bit more so

824
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Speaker 1: than the other, as high volume output, Serrano as more

825
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: high volume. Both, by the way, in their own right,

826
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Speaker 1: can be devastating punchers. I feel like Serrano is a

827
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: fucking amazing body technician. And I would say that Katie Taylor,

828
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: of the two of them, is a little bit more

829
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Speaker 1: of the sharpshooter slash sniper of the two of them,

830
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: a little bit more clever. I think, I would say

831
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Speaker 1: over at Man as Serrano. So you have a great

832
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Speaker 1: fight on your hands. And BC you know this as

833
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: well as I do. Like listen, Leila Ali was probably

834
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Speaker 1: the first time a women's boxer came around and I

835
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: was like, okay, this is like this is I'm not

836
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: gonna say, on par with the men's game, but you know,

837
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Speaker 1: very very respectable in all the ways you would respect

838
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: a prize fighter who is the mismatch Christy Martin, dude,

839
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Speaker 1: you know we joke like, Okay, for example, Ovechkin is

840
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: like killing it here in DC, and he may catch

841
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: Gretzky for all time. Yeah, goals, he might he might,

842
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: he might, he might. It's within the realm of possibility

843
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: if you can stay healthy, so he could become the

844
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Speaker 1: Anchel's leading all time goalscorer. What's kind of funny is

845
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Speaker 1: if you listen to fans around here, they're totally wrong,

846
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: but they'll say shit like, oh, yeah, Gretzky was playing

847
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: farmers and plumbers. Ovechkin's playing real athletes. And you hear

848
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: this from Jordan versus Lebron, Oh, Jordan played plumbers. But dude,

849
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: like you look at some of the people that Christy

850
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: Martin was boxing, bro, she was boxing fucking plumbers, and shit,

851
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: I mean that's just really what it was. That's not

852
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: what you have here at all. And I would also

853
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: add BC, we grew up in the era of like

854
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: the Mia Saint John's where it was like, oh, here's

855
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: this boxer who's also in Playboy, and that was kind

856
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: of the connection that you made, which I'm not like

857
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: hating on. I'm just pointing out Taylor and Serrano whoever

858
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: you like, motherfucker. They are all business. They are all business,

859
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: all action. They want all the smoke, and they have

860
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: done everything you could possibly ask of them as prize

861
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: fighters to put themselves in this position, and this is

862
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: the fight everybody wants. This is as legit as any

863
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: male fight you would ever find. It is it is

864
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: I w W want to say perfect, because no fight is.

865
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: But there are so many good, legitimate, sporting reasons to

866
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: love this contest. It is not a side show. It

867
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: is the show.

868
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: It's for Taylor's all. Taylor is the undisputed champion at

869
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: one thirty five, so it's for all four of her titles.

870
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: Sono's held the title here in the past. I believe,

871
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 2: I know she's the unified champion at one thirty She's,

872
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: like I said, held titles from one eighteen to one

873
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 2: forty and five different way classes. But Luke, it's weird

874
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: because I think that you know, I've said it before.

875
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: It's a fail to some degree that this fight is

876
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 2: not the first official step up for women's boxing to

877
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: move full time into twelve rounds as opposed to ten

878
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: the smaller gloves you mentioned, and also three minute rounds

879
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: as opposed to two. There are some women's fights, depending

880
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: on the sanctioning body, that get that male treatment, or

881
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: I don't even want to call it male treatment. I

882
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: want to call it what it should be normal treatment.

883
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: This fight's not. I know, those a little bit of

884
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: controversy because Serrono brought it up at the first press

885
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: conference and Taylor's like, you know, you should have brought

886
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: that up back when we were negotiating. I'm not changing

887
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: that for you and Luke. Style wise, I think it's

888
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: smarter for Taylor to stick with the two minute rounds,

889
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: but that may just ramp up the excitement that we

890
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: see because at their core, right, Taylor's like twenty to oh,

891
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: but she only has six KOs. And to be fair,

892
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: the reason why Closa Shields has barely any KOs. It's

893
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: hard in two minute rounds to get knockouts. It robs

894
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: the top female fighters of potentially getting that. But Taylor

895
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: is sharp. But she's a pressure fighter, combinations, constant movement

896
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: in front of you, and even though Sorono can do

897
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: it all, Luke, she's clearly the puncher. I mean, she's

898
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: got twenty one career knockouts in two minute rounds. Dude, Like,

899
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: on top of this fight, mattering, on top of this

900
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: fight being the perfect extension of what allowing women in

901
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: the Olympic Games have seen to done to the pro

902
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: game by injecting it with legitimate see and you know

903
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: all of that, this could also be a great fricking fight,

904
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: just like to be fair, Katie Taylor's two fights with

905
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: Delphine pursuon War both were just ten round wire to wire,

906
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: absolute wars. It's hard to imagine this fight not being

907
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: that it really is, dude, because Taylor's relentless, and if

908
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: Serano looks to dig in and establish herself as the

909
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: bigger puncher, we're gonna get some magic here, Luke absolute,

910
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: I mean in MSG, dude, come on, come on, Luke,

911
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: you know, get hyped for these ladies, dude.

912
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: But here's the one warning to fans. You know, Serrano

913
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: has some of the most volume I've ever seen a fight,

914
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: or hap she might actually have more volume than Taylor,

915
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: which is why of the two I said Taylor was

916
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: a bit of a sharpshooter relatively speaking. You're right about

917
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: the style, but Serrano is just you know, I mean,

918
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, forty jabs around and shit like something something

919
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: and crazy that she's attempting anyway, some insertain numbers. So

920
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to make is some of these rounds

921
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: might be really hard to score, really hard to score.

922
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: I could see several rounds pass where you're like, could

923
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: go either way, and it's gonna be interesting to see

924
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: if the Irish, I'm sure they will, but like how

925
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: much the Irish show up versus how much the Porto

926
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: Ricans show up in New York. If you don't know

927
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: New York City, these are two of the biggest immigrant

928
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: populations or you know, native at this point, but you know,

929
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: you get the idea. So the some of the the

930
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: demographics that they draw from two very spirited, rock ribbed

931
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: fight communities, Well, it's gonna be insane in there. But

932
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: I do think, man, unless someone really kind of not implodes,

933
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: but one's gonna have to really stick it to the

934
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: other because I think they're both so well suited with

935
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: such volume an attack. It's gonna get It's gonna be

936
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: a little bit like who was it not the same

937
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: kind of fight because there are different body types. But

938
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: do you remember how hard some of those rounds were

939
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: to score for like Fulton FIGAROA, You're like, I'm not

940
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: show you one that one. I really don't know. It's

941
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: gonna be like, I'm with you.

942
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: And then what's the best case scenario for the sport

943
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: here that they fight a couple times to be fair,

944
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: and you know it should be at this level. But

945
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. Storyline wise, though, couldn't get any better.

946
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: And again I give so much respect to Eddie Hearn,

947
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: his own, Jake, Paul, everyone involved in this to make

948
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: this happen at this level. It's what they deserve. And

949
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: you can't underestimate Luke what this fight could be for

950
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: the future. If it's great. I mean, look, dude, I'm

951
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: not it's not Apple to apples, but Cyborg versus Gina

952
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: Carano really did a lot to kick the door down,

953
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: and it's not Apple sapples because women's boxing has a

954
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: foothold right now in the boxing game, arguably the deepest

955
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: foothole it said ever, you want to talk about becoming legitimate,

956
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: which is what women's emmy became after that Cyborg uh

957
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 2: Coronto fight through Strikeforce, with with Home, I mean, with

958
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: with Rousey and Tate into the UFC and the expansion. Dude,

959
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: women's boxing deserves to be there. The problem is they

960
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: don't have the depth division to division. You know, after

961
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 2: the top four, five, six pound for pound, it gets

962
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: it gets dropped off from there. But fights like this

963
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: could create new generations of fighters and fight fans to

964
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: the women's game. And that's great. That's great, Louke quickly

965
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: because I'm blown away by this. So Vegkin News and

966
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: our repid producer Mikey Mormles letting us know that Ovechkin

967
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: currently is third all time. He's twenty one goals away

968
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 2: from second place.

969
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: Which which he will he will pass. That he will pass.

970
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: He has fifteen over fifty, he has over fifty goals

971
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: in the season, so he'll he will people reach number

972
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: two no matter what.

973
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: Here's why it's crazy. And I used to be a

974
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 2: much bigger a NHL fan. Now I'm a negative NHL fan.

975
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: But except for if you're at somebody's house and they've

976
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: got it on TV, and then it becomes awesome again, Luke.

977
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: And maybe because because of weed too, it could be

978
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: awesome again. But you get my point. Here's the deal.

979
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: I'm guessing. I looked up Ovechkin. I'm like, okay, what

980
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 2: is he? I know he's been around forever.

981
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: What is he like? Forty two?

982
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: Forty four? Dude, he's thirty six. And here's why this

983
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: is crazy, dude, because I watched the crap out of

984
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: Gretzky in the eighties. Gretzky came in at a free

985
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: flowing time in the NHL. I mean he scored like

986
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: ninety two freaking goals in like his third year, Luke,

987
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: like ninety two goals.

988
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: Dude.

989
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: Ovechkin came in if correct me if I'm wrong during

990
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: the the left wing lock era where the leader in

991
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 2: goal scorers for the season would be like forty eight, right.

992
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 2: I know he's had a couple of years of sixty

993
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: plus goals, but he's only thirty six. Dude, he may

994
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: actually do this.

995
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he might actually do it and again to be

996
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: thirty six and he has over fifty on the season.

997
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: Now he is out right now. He had a bit

998
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: of I think a chest or a shoulder injury, so

999
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna sit out until the playoffs start. But you know,

1000
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. He only has the one cup and

1001
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna say what they're gonna say. But dude, you

1002
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: watch this motherfucker play. He is a fucking refrigerator out

1003
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: there on skates blinding people and then his little spot

1004
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: off to the side on the goal. He is just uh,

1005
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 1: just fucking he's a machine. There's a he had there's

1006
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,479
Speaker 1: a quote that he gave one time and someone turned

1007
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: it into a local blog where they cover the capitals

1008
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: Russian machine. Does I think it's Russian machine? Don't break,

1009
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, dude, he is a fucking Russian machine. He's unbelievable.

1010
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: And one time was in the Russia house years ago.

1011
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: This is years ago before the war and all this

1012
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: shit is like the aughts, and Novechkin was there within,

1013
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, with some dying piece around his arm.

1014
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: He still played two hundred few games than Gretzky up

1015
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: to this point. Luke, Gretzky's a total point total. No

1016
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: one's touching that. Gretzky's total points. And by the way,

1017
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: and we're probably losing viewers at the bunches here, No,

1018
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: he has over twenty eight hundred career points. Gretzky's second

1019
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: is Yagur with nineteen hundred. Luke, that's insane.

1020
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, he's not going to catch that, but

1021
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: the goals is being on the lookout, it might happen.

1022
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk about topic number two. This one

1023
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: was kind of interesting. We've all seen Volkanovsky make the

1024
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: media rounds. He stopped by Morning Combat, among a lot

1025
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: of other places. He did talk to TMZ. Folks are

1026
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: asking him what could be next, what might be next,

1027
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: what should be next? And we all know McGregor is

1028
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: coming back at some point, maybe July, maybe a little

1029
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 1: bit later. Hard to say. But here's what Volkanovsky said

1030
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: about potentially facing McGregor. Of course he wants that fight,

1031
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: he says, quote, the question comes up a lot. He's

1032
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: another champ in my division that I haven't taken out.

1033
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: I've taken out everyone else, so it makes sense. On

1034
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: top of the circus and the money, I want to

1035
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: take out all the legends of this division. Connor McGregor

1036
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: held the belt in my division. I want that goat status,

1037
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: take out all the champions. You're effing saying something BCE.

1038
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit confused about all of this. One.

1039
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: Is there any chance McGregor goes to one forty five? No,

1040
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: I certainly have to fight Volkanovsky zero zero. And here's

1041
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: the other part about this BC. This is why I

1042
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: don't understand this. I get Volkanovsky calling this fight, I

1043
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: get I get why anybody would want to fight McGregor,

1044
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: fair enough, but if your team McGregor, and you're looking

1045
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: at the list of most attractive options for what you want,

1046
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: come back, do ability, big money, blah blah blah. Wouldn't

1047
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: Volkanovsky be at the bottom of the list, especially if

1048
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: you're at one fifty five where Volkanowski would beat him,

1049
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: But it wouldn't really mean the same thing because it's

1050
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: not at one forty. I don't I just don't understand.

1051
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: You'll love this matchup.

1052
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: Let me, let me act like you're barber here and

1053
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: clean you up, although I'll charge you far less. Uh,

1054
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 2: here's the deal. He's Volkanowsky has teased in the past

1055
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: and eventual moved to lightweight. He's talking about one fifty

1056
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 2: five here. He knows we all know Connor's never making

1057
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: forty five again. That was a that was a lifetime ago.

1058
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 2: But would Connor want this fighter? Should he want this fight?

1059
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: In theory? No, But you have to understand Connor has

1060
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: a outsized opinion of his striking ability against the offensive

1061
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 2: output of others. He probably looks at Volkanovsky as a

1062
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: smaller fighter who's a point fighter in his mind, right,

1063
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: you know, maybe not seeing the full facts here, who

1064
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: he could line up and knock out. Do I think

1065
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: this fight happens. No, But here's why I like this talk.

1066
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: I know not everyone's gonna agree with me. Here a

1067
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: couple points why. One, it's a brilliant move by Volkanovsky. Right,

1068
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 2: if he ever got this fight, that he becomes, you know,

1069
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: a next level pay per view star. Okay, like you

1070
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 2: get the rub from McGregor, it means a lot adding

1071
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: that name on his list. If he gets a victory

1072
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: there would obviously mean a lot. But UFC is that

1073
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: such a critical crossroads with the idea of how much

1074
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: does McGregor left have left? How many paydays do we

1075
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: have left in him? How long can we keep this

1076
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: thing moving knowing that the more elite names we put

1077
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: him against, the more likely he is to probably catch

1078
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: an l I've said for a while, Luke, I think

1079
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: it's interesting the idea, and it's not just McGregor. I've

1080
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: said this about old Anderson Silva. I used to want

1081
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 2: Connor McGregor versus Anderson Silva after both showed interest in that.

1082
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 2: I think the way you bridge that gap with Connor's

1083
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: age star power fading as his game is fading faster,

1084
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: is by putting him in fights like this against smaller

1085
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: guys who want the smoke because it's a boom for

1086
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: whoever wins it, Meaning if the smaller guy wins it,

1087
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: that's like a you know, that's a tent pole in

1088
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: their in their career resume and for the in for

1089
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: the USC. Look, I don't think you would hold. You

1090
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: could tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't think

1091
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 2: you hold these type of losses against either fighter when

1092
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: they sort of meet in the middle of weight. It's

1093
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 2: sort of a reach for both of them to make

1094
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: a fun, sort of random, attractive pay per view main event.

1095
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm using vult Konovski's interest to fuel my argument

1096
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: that if Suhudo really wants Connor and he's talking shit,

1097
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: find a way to meet him in the middle. It's

1098
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: a fun one. It's to me, Luke, it's no freaking

1099
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: different than putting a BMF belt on the line. Because

1100
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: Jorge versus Nate was such a great idea, right, Let's

1101
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: put him in the MSG in the main event. Let's

1102
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: put a fake belt on the line. I like, once

1103
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 2: in a while breaking the glass and doing these type

1104
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: of fun fights. I don't think it holds people back

1105
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: in terms of their wins and lost streaks and how

1106
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: critical we have to be. And if I'm a fan,

1107
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 2: which I am, don't you kind of want to see

1108
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 2: Connor against every big name possible because he's been such

1109
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: a unique sort of draw and offering in this sports history,

1110
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: whether it's Volkanovski or it's anyone else who wants to

1111
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: move up and meet him, whether it was Faber who

1112
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: almost became Connor's UFC one ninety six opponent when RDA

1113
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: pulled out. Don't you see any kind of value in

1114
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: this from a promotional slash entertainment standpoint? Or are you

1115
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: just like, no, no.

1116
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: No, You didn't make the case at all for why

1117
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: fam I should like it. You made the case for

1118
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: why a promoter might want to make it. You did

1119
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: do that, okay, And.

1120
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: The case is that it's interesting as shit. Luke, you're

1121
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 2: not inter here's the deal. I know we're all in

1122
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: our head going, oh, it's Volkanovsky and McGregor's stock is plummeting.

1123
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: But Luke, when you meet in the middle out of

1124
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: higher weight, sometimes different things happen. Has Has Volkanovsky met

1125
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: with the type of first round one punch power that

1126
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 2: kind of can bring up lightweight. I don't know, Luke.

1127
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm just I would like to tell you you sold

1128
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: me on it, but you didn't like. I just didn't

1129
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: hear much there to tell me that this is a

1130
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: fight that I need to see, Which isn't to say

1131
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: that if they made it, wouldn't have about again. You

1132
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: made your case for why the promotion could want to

1133
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: make it and what the value could be if they did.

1134
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: To me, is quite real and quite fair. But I

1135
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: just don't know what like if I shopped this to

1136
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 1: the fans and I had it, It's not just one fight.

1137
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: So I've got McGregor who could fight mas butt All,

1138
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: I've got McGregor who could Again, we're all talking in theory,

1139
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: in theory, das for the third time or whatever. I

1140
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: just don't know how you're gonna convince any common fan

1141
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: to accept this one over any of the other more

1142
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: substantive alternatives with much bigger names. Okay, here's I just

1143
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: don't I just don't get it.

1144
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: Here's an alternative Connor going up to walts Waite and

1145
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: fight Nusemann for the history of the first attemption. We

1146
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 2: all hate that.

1147
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I don't like that fight.

1148
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: Would fuck him up. You got a smaller guy moving up, Luke.

1149
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: I know, maybe Volkanowski isn't the perfect choice for this

1150
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: argument because his pay per view brand is is like

1151
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 2: decent but not great. Right, He's still kind of trying

1152
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: to make that in his thirties, he's trying to become

1153
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: the biggest star he can. This would be a way

1154
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: to do that. But you're telling me you're not intrigued

1155
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: by the idea of what would that fight look like?

1156
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: No, I think, But also i've been maybe this color

1157
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: is my opinion, so this is part of it. I

1158
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: think Volkanovsky beats him without I'm not gonna say a

1159
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: whole lot of trouble, but like I would absolutely not

1160
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: bet on McGregor to win that contest. No, no, no chance.

1161
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe here's a more important question. And again, whether

1162
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: it's Volkanovski or anyone else small or moving up for

1163
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: fun sort of crossroads fight like this, do you think

1164
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: it would like how much of a loss would it

1165
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: be if McGregor goes in there against Shuto and gets

1166
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: outpointed in a fun fight Volkanowski and gets submitted? Is

1167
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: that a monster? I mean, I think that's I'm trying

1168
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: to make the case that that's less damaging than making

1169
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: him versus Joorge and if he gets knocked out right

1170
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: or making him versus any ranked lightweight and he gets beat.

1171
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: See, it's complicated too, because to answer that question, if

1172
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: let's let's say, let's imagine a scenario. I mean, by

1173
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: the way, you know, Connor can go in there, put

1174
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: one straight left on him and close the show. But

1175
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: this is what you have to ask yourself. If you're Connor,

1176
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: you go in there and you beat Volkanovsky, who the

1177
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: casual fan does not know. We all know who he is,

1178
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: but the casual fan does not know. What does it

1179
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: get you? It doesn't get you shit right. But you

1180
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: go in there and you lose to that guy. Dude,

1181
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: you are You have I won't say ruined the brand,

1182
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: but you have done some fucking damage to it.

1183
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: Now agree on both cases.

1184
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: Both. Let let me ask, let me, let me, let

1185
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: me pitch the question back to you, and then you

1186
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: answer it. You think that if your team McGregor you

1187
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: look at this scenario and you say, of all the possibilities,

1188
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: beating Volkanovsky materially does us the biggest benefit. Are you

1189
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: there no, I'm not there.

1190
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: I'm not there, Okay. But for you to say that

1191
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: Volkanowski gets nothing from this.

1192
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: Iss plenty from it. Connor winning gets nothing.

1193
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: I disagree on that. I think because of Connor's stance,

1194
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: I think he can pin it as Oh, I think

1195
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: I'm the greatest featherweight of all time. Okay, the current

1196
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: featherweight king who thinks he's great is going to move

1197
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: up and fight me. It would be the same thing

1198
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: if he thought Holloway at lightweight, in my opinion, Luke,

1199
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: and a rematch, it'd be like, you know, one of

1200
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: the all time greats wants to move up and meet me.

1201
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 2: I showed you what I can do. You could argue

1202
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: with the you know, with the critics care about it.

1203
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. I still think that's a great win

1204
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: for Connor. It's not that Volkanowski been moving up, you know,

1205
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 2: four weight classes here. Okay, But you just said the

1206
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: damage if Volkanovsky lost to Connor. I don't think there's

1207
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 2: a ton of damage there, Luke.

1208
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: Both ways, maybe I misspoke, but both ways, I'm talking

1209
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: about Connor. Both ways. If he wins again, you and

1210
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: I might be like, holy shit, dude, he beat Volkanovsky

1211
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: in the one fifty five. That's impressive. I don't know

1212
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: if the casual fans would see it that way. In

1213
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: number two they were.

1214
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: Undef He's virtually he's undefeated in the UFC. He's virtually

1215
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: undefeated meaning Volkanovsky.

1216
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: That would casual fan interest is star power, and almost

1217
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: star power alone, of which Volkanovsky has very little. That's

1218
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: the only thing he lacks in the fight game. Quite honestly,

1219
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: he has such a complete game. He's so super smart,

1220
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: he has a great team, he has a country behind him.

1221
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: I get all that, dude, I get all that. What

1222
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is, if you're McGregor and you're

1223
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: weighing your options, especially longevity, why would you risk it

1224
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: against a guy who beating for the casual audience, Which,

1225
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: again I'm gonna go back and say, you and I

1226
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: and people listening might be like, well, who gives a

1227
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: fuck about them? I don't give a fuck about them,

1228
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: but they are the biggest portion of the audience. They

1229
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: are much greater in number than we are. If you

1230
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: lose to a guy like that, I don't I don't

1231
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: think it sends a great message. And if you beat him,

1232
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: I just don't understand what the fan base who doesn't

1233
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: know who this guy is or how good he is,

1234
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: why they're supposed to react with great acclaim. To me,

1235
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: you geel much more out of beating somebody else who

1236
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: might have much more visibility to the largest border.

1237
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: Great acclaim is that if you're a casual fan who

1238
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 2: doesn't know how great Volkanovsky is and you watch him

1239
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: beat the guy that you know, that's then he becomes

1240
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: a star on that level in theory. Now, look, just

1241
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 2: for the record, I'm not sitting here trying to argue

1242
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: that this fight needs to happen or would be top

1243
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: ten in Connor's choices. I'm just saying a way to

1244
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: extend Connor's brand as a viable pay per view main event.

1245
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: If they decided to say, Okay, why are we gonna

1246
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 2: feed him Ustman, why are we even gonna feed him

1247
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: to OLIVERA?

1248
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: Right?

1249
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: What if we just did fun matchups like this again?

1250
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: Volkanovsky might not be the guy, but what if somebody

1251
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: else was. What if Look, you're telling me you wouldn't

1252
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: freaking care about Henry's hoodo versus Connor McGregor at one

1253
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one pounds. You tell me you wouldn't

1254
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: care about that all.

1255
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: This is a very boxing thing you're trying here. It's

1256
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: like giving the fights that people want. Let's go and

1257
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: manipulate this little thing and let's get horse hair gloves

1258
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: instead of regular padding. I was like, dude, just give them, dude,

1259
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: the DS fight. I agree with that the Usman fight

1260
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 1: is fucking stupid, but the Masvidal fight potentially, or something

1261
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: along those lines, something someone who has a who is

1262
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: a a worthy B side in terms of raising the

1263
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Speaker 1: level of potential pay per view bys. I think that's

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Speaker 1: the only direction Connor is looking. Goes in there and

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Speaker 1: dismantles him, which could be very possible. It would just

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Speaker 1: be a terrible outcome for a lot of different folks,

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Speaker 1: except for Volkanowski.

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Speaker 2: Or except for the UFC if they felt he had

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00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: long term potential to become something. But louke quickly, if

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Speaker 2: you're gonna make Connor against Jorge or Nate three or

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Speaker 2: any of those, to me, it's the same idea. You're

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00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: either a title contender or you're not. But if you

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00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: are not and you are still a brand, we typically say, Okay,

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00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 2: what other washy name can we put you against Why

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00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: not try to close that gap a little of the

1276
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: declining star, just like I wouldn't want it now, But

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00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: a year and a half ago, connor comeback fight against

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00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: frank Edgar could have been fun, right, Luke. That's that's

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00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 2: in that same category.

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Speaker 1: To me, Connor McGregor versus Frankie Edgar made sense at

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00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: UFC two hundred when Connor was there watching Aldo and

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00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: uh and Edgar go at it. But now, I mean

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00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: now that you're saying.

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Speaker 2: It, not now, okay? How about when he came back

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00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: against Cowboy, if that was Frankie Edgar, Luke, that would

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00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: have been a bigger deal.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I can't say for certain, but maybe I

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00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: don't think there'd be a huge difference, A monster different.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for hearing my ted talk. We'll go back

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00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: to the rankings and number one fight.

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Speaker 1: I do have some breaking movies. I do have some

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Speaker 1: breaking news. If you'd like to weigh in it very quickly,

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Speaker 1: be see one Championship. According to ESPN's Mark Ramundi has

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00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: signed a multi year US and Canada broadcast rights deal

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01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: with Amazon Prime. The promotion will announce Wednesday. The agreement

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01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: calls for twelve live one Cards to air on Prime

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Speaker 1: Video annually. Your reaction.

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Speaker 2: Twelve cards, So once a month we're getting a live

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Speaker 2: a live one championship fight on Amazon Prime.

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Speaker 1: As a prime subscriber, this is great for me. I

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01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: don't know what it will actually do for ones one

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01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: is One's got a bit of an issue because they

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Speaker 1: again I go back to it, the people who run

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Speaker 1: that organization, You couldn't trust a single thing that they

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01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: say ever in their lives. But the product that they

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Speaker 1: put out does have a lot of redeeming aspects. And

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Speaker 1: they're trying to break into the US market and they

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Speaker 1: tried with that that the bleacher Report app thing that

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Speaker 1: went fucking nowhere. They had a couple of shows on

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Speaker 1: TNT that just didn't hit the mark. Certainly it's a

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Speaker 1: boon for Amazon, and as a prime subscriber, I actually

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01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: like it. I'll watch it. I just don't know if

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01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: this is the kind of market penetration that they're looking for.

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Speaker 2: Well, you could argue, did they did they try for

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01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: bigger networks and you know, in more terrestrial TV networks

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01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: and this is what they settled for, or are they

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01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 2: looking to the future, which we're already in the future

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Speaker 2: of streaming it already is now, the future is now,

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01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 2: and they went with a big player, probably for decent money.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's just look either way. They need

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Speaker 2: to be available in the US, live at a at

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01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: a clicks. Notice this gets them there. So that's cool.

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Speaker 2: But Luke, to mend the point, to mend the fences

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01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 2: in that gap between you and one management and the

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01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 2: lack of trust, which you know, can't say. I don't

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Speaker 2: don't disagree with you, Hair, But Luke, what if Chatre

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01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: came back with season two of The Apprentice one Championship

1328
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 2: edition and he offered you a spot in the reality show, Luke,

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01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 2: and you went representing MK bro unlike the Joe Rogan show, Right,

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01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 2: you went representing MK. Would you do that for us?

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01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: Luke?

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Speaker 2: Would you do it?

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Speaker 1: I'd rather get shot in the face with liquid e

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01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: bowla that go on that show. Dude.

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Speaker 2: You could visit Singapore bro, oh, come on you and yeah,

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01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: Singapore school, but like I'd rather go under you know,

1337
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: different circumstances, Okay, all right, Or like I'd rather go

1338
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: see out the sex trade business. Right, that's what you'd do?

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01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: Okay, that's where your head is at. I was actually

1340
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: just looking to see monuments and shit. But all right,

1341
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: let's talk about this Al Jamain Sterling, who's he gonna fight?

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01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: This is actually a bit of a broader conversation because

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01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: there's also this, like BC, do you remember that brief

1344
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: Twitter push called the rally for Mark Hunt to get

1345
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: him a title shot by people just hashtagging it? Thinking

1346
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: like again, people who think that like hashtagging shit equals activism,

1347
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't. But the point I'm trying to make is

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01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: you're seeing something a little similar what's trying to get

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01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: Aldo a title shot, although his case is a little

1350
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: bit stronger. Here's the only point. Though. Sterling and so

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01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: Hudu have gone back and forth on social media. Sohuto tweeted,

1352
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm coming back for these tomato cans and I'm going

1353
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: to right the wrong. Al Joe lame, that's not funny.

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01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: You the number one contender, bitch. Al Jae responds, if

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01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: he wants to lose one of those c's, I'll gladly

1356
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: demot him. Let me know when you're serious, champ wink emoji. BC.

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Speaker 1: Of all the possibilities, you've got Aldo, you've got Suhudo,

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01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: you've got tj Dillashaw, Give me who should be Sterling's

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01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: next opponent, and give it to me based on all

1360
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: the criteria. Get the fans interested actually means something. You

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01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: could do something with it. Who's the best choice?

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01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: TJ. Dillashaw, former champion, didn't lose his belt, dealt with

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01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: USADA an injury, got sent to hell by sahudo in

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01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 2: a different way class. But he's back. Looked really good

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01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: in that comeback victory there against Corey Sanhagen.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the fight to make and I and

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01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm ready for Suhudo to come back. I'm glad he

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01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: re entered the pool. I think there there is a

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Speaker 2: number of fun, potential big matchups for a seat for

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Speaker 2: him to use his name in sort of his critical

1372
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: pound for pound standing despite being out of the sport

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01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: for a while. I liked the idea of the past

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01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: of Volkanovsky. I could see why Dana didn't. If so

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Speaker 2: Hudo wants to get in line, I'm okay with that.

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01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 2: If you told me Aljo's gonna fight Dila Shaw next

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01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: and then the winner fights to Hudo. Look, I'm gonna

1378
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: be sitting here. How would you not? How could you

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01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 2: be a fan and not get excited about Henry Sahudo

1380
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 2: announcing himself back into the mix for the title in

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01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 2: the sport's deepest division. Right, it's a win for all

1382
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: of us, but not next it's look again, I know

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01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 2: TJ just did an interview with Brett and I caught

1384
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: parts of it. Did he did he update his timeline

1385
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 2: on a comeback yet? Because that affects my my my

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Speaker 2: analysis here.

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Speaker 1: I did not. I don't know. I did not see

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01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: that either.

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Speaker 2: Provided TJ's healthy, that's the fight to make Luke. And oh,

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01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 2: by the way, dude, and look again, it's gonna sound

1391
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: like once again the media shitting on al Joe. How

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01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 2: many more of these shocking performances do we need from

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01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 2: him to wake up? But imagine if TJ won the

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01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 2: belt back and then fought Henry Sahudo. Get me out

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01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 2: of my chair at Luke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that'd be big. Or I gotta say this, what

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01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: if Sterling goes in there and just chokes out TJ

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01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: Dillashaw from the back, which because we know he's got

1399
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: ridiculous back control and he's an insanely strong grappler, dude,

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01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: that would set up a big fight too. I know

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01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: what you mean, Dela Shaw beating Sterling and then fighting,

1402
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: so Hudo would be bigger because he'd be a rematch

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01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. Fair enough. I mean, of all

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01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 1: the reasons, you're absolutely right. I just got to point

1405
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: out Sterling winning is hardly some travesty either. At this point,

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01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: fans are slowly coming around on him. They're starting to

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01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: really realize he's pretty good, and more than pretty good,

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01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: he's great.

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01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 2: Look, let me ask you something. Allow me to slide

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01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: in your DMS here. I know Devali Shilly at six

1411
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: is coming on, but Josee Aldo's in a prime spot

1412
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: right now. What if the UFC says, hey, Henry, hey, hey, cringe.

1413
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 2: Nobody calls their their number around here, right, Nobody calls

1414
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: their shots unless you're Connor or Brock or Ronda or

1415
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,959
Speaker 2: Darren Hill. Orm's out but no, but nobody calls their shots. Luke, Okay,

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01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: what if we did Henry Stahudo versus Jose Aldo and

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Speaker 2: a number one contender?

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Speaker 1: Spout? I mean, get just take all my money?

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01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: Yes, and and and McGregor's the referee. No, just kidding, yes, look.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, dude, I dude, that fight would be absolutely

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01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: fucking awesome. That would be increadile. And for Suhudo, you

1422
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: know you want to come back, you want to be

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01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: in this bantamweight division. Obviously we know he was the

1424
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: king of it when he left. But but that fight

1425
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: would be as legitimate a win as any other one

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01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: he has in this on this fucking mantonwait resume. In fact,

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01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: it might be his best bantamweight win to date if

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01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: he actually got that one in terms of quality of opposition.

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01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: Need to go back and review his resume, but that

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Speaker 1: it would be on par with one of his better

1431
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: wins anyway, So yeah, dude, I'd be And then plus Aldo,

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Speaker 1: you would imagine could actually beat him the super competitive fight.

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Speaker 1: I love it great?

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Speaker 2: Is that could Could that be a pay per view

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01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: main event without having to put an interim title on

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: it just to try to make it acceptable for it

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01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: to be one, or.

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01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: Would it have to be a pay per view comine okay,

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01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum if they made it would have

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01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: to be five rounds bare minimums. I don't know if

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01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,919
Speaker 1: you could. I don't think you could do it without

1442
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: a belt, I really don't, And I don't think it

1443
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: could be the main event either. But that's that's about

1444
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: as good as a comin event ever gets that.

1445
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:26,439
Speaker 2: Give me fandom weight, sex, please, I need it all. Luke, Luke,

1446
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 2: are you more excited about Canelo sending Ali Abdelaziz to

1447
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 2: hell on Twitter? In a Canelo I'm sorry a Connor

1448
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: versus Jeremy Stevens like way? Or are you more excited

1449
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 2: about you want to say and give me five rounds

1450
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 2: for this wayy rematch? You want me to go all five,

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01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 2: I'll go all five.

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01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: I worry about her, to be honest, and I mean,

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01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: that's sincerely, dude, Like that Latin dude. She got turned

1454
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: into a different color person when that fight was over

1455
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: and all the swelling went down. That was a real

1456
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: bad situation. She's taking time off, so that's about the

1457
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: best thing you could do. But I just wonder, I

1458
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, listen, we'll have to see, we'll have to see.

1459
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: My only point being is she gave, I thought, everything

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01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: she had in that fight, and I wonder, I just

1461
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: wonder what she's gonna look like afterwards in terms of

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01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: what she can do, in terms of taking punishment and

1463
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: everything else. Five rounds does scare me a little bit

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01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: for her, Candidly, a little bit, doesn't it scare you?

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01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, I think this fight should be three rounds,

1466
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: which it is scheduled at right now, And I think

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01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 2: they should just let them savagely fight each other until

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01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 2: the one of them falls.

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Speaker 1: Luke, It's gonna be great. Yeah, I agree. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I appreciate her toughness. I appreciate her willingness to

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01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: like gas pedal to the floor with what time she

1472
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: has left. But I also understand the UFC being like, uh,

1473
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: let's see how you do with three rounds first. Also,

1474
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: this opponent is a tough as shit, so let's let's

1475
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: worry about that at a different time.

1476
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: All right, really excited about combat sports right now, Luke?

1477
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: This is great. You got the question is do you

1478
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 1: have pants on? All right? Yes? By the way, I

1479
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: don't know what Mike and Mormel saying there, you can

1480
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: read that from me. All Right, we go to now PFLBC,

1481
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: PFL God, they had the worst names for this PFL

1482
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: twenty two, number two regular season. That's the name of

1483
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 1: this fucking event. But okay, it's a pretty decent card

1484
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: on it. You got Bruno cape Losa, who is just

1485
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: an absolute force taking on Stuart Austin comin event I

1486
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: like a lot Brendan Locknan taking on Ryoji Kudo, and

1487
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: then you have a couple of other decent ones along

1488
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: the way. Lance Palmer taking on Chris Wade is a

1489
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: big one. Also, Bubba Jenkins taking on Kyle Bakhniak. We see,

1490
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: I won't belabor the point here. What on this card

1491
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: other than what I've mentioned, or perhaps that stands out

1492
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: to you the most?

1493
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's I don't like this card as

1494
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: much as some of the others, but I do love

1495
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 2: me some Bruno Capalosa from Brazil. I've followed his entire

1496
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 2: run to the PFL heavyweight title last year, and Luke

1497
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: each fight, I think he showed me more and more

1498
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 2: in terms of how legit he is, from his toughness

1499
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 2: to his gas tank to his ability to strike. I mean, look,

1500
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm nothing about him, this guy before last season, and

1501
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 2: now I'm wondering, like, is he a rising heavyweight on

1502
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 2: the global scene and not just the PFL scene. He

1503
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: looked that good last year, So I know Dick squad

1504
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: about Stuart Austin, but you know, I'll I'll what is

1505
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: that tonight this card?

1506
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think it's I think it's tonight or something.

1507
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 1: Let me look that up.

1508
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: It is only we had a cage that would that

1509
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 2: was smart enough to tell us when the fight was Luke,

1510
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: that'd be great.

1511
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: It's tomorrow. It's tomorrow, tomorrow, Okay, so the way ends

1512
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: will be today.

1513
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: I don't hate their week night way of doing things.

1514
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 2: And you know, yeah, you got a good mix. Lance

1515
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: Palmer had a bad season last year, Luke, after being

1516
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: a champion. I want to see him turn it around.

1517
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: Dennis Goutsov made a nice run in the heavyweight bracket

1518
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 2: last year before coming up short. But you're gonna put

1519
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 2: Bubba Jenkins and Shaman Maris on this prelim card, Luke

1520
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 2: in Boston Salmon, Wow, Luke, I may I may tune.

1521
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: Into this Boston Salmon's on the car. Yeah, but here

1522
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: the one that stands out to me is Ryoji Kudo

1523
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: taking it on Breaden and locked, and Brendon Lockton was

1524
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: the one who went for the takedown on Contender Series

1525
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: and family was cut for it. Kudo a good guy

1526
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: I think out of Shooto Japan. And then Bubba Jenkins man,

1527
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: I thought he was kind of left for dead on

1528
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: the side of the road and metaphorically speaking. And he

1529
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: did lose to Chris Wade in his last fight, but

1530
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: he had a decent run in PFL, beating both Lance

1531
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: Palmer and Bobby Moffatt. Here he takes on all action.

1532
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: Kyle Bockniak, you gotta love that one. Shaman Marish's you

1533
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: indicator is also on this card. There's a few spot

1534
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: clits in a bray use pretty decent. There's a few

1535
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: fights on this car that are respectable, but there's nothing

1536
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: that's really like amazing Crown Jewel type. It's just a

1537
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 1: few fights that are respectable.

1538
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 2: Luke, mister and missus Salmon were pretty bold and naming

1539
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 2: their son after a city. I know that you love Washington,

1540
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 2: DC more than anything, and that's why you've got that

1541
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 2: ink on you. But you can't like you. You wouldn't

1542
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 2: want you know, your parents have named you Washington. So

1543
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 2: if you had to be named after a city, Luke,

1544
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: which one would you have picked?

1545
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: Paradise City? I don't know.

1546
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: Well, the grass is green, Luke, and the girls here,

1547
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, they're pretty Yeah.

1548
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 1: Let's do some Let's do some quick hitters here very quickly. BC.

1549
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: Your reaction, Ben Rothwell, I think was on Emmmy Hour

1550
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 1: he announced this. He assigned with BKFC. You like it,

1551
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: you hate it?

1552
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, although they've made some nice changes

1553
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: and being acquired by Triller by the way, I'm interested

1554
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 2: to see if that does anything to be a KIFS.

1555
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: He's product and outreach. But Luke, truth or not truth,

1556
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 2: it's still the last stop on the on the combat

1557
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 2: sports food chain. It's you know what I mean, it's

1558
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: it's uh, it's south of the border on the I

1559
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: ninety five drive down to Florida. Luke, you know you

1560
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 2: can get some shitty trinkets and some gross food and

1561
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: a night's sleep. But uh, yeah, I guess you know,

1562
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, he's more he's a handsy heavyweight,

1563
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: but he's also a ground guy, so I don't know

1564
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: how this is gonna work, Luke. He's a big old

1565
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 2: Harry lug though so good.

1566
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: I know everyone's like, oh, this is great for what

1567
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: Rothwell style, and that's true. I think it can be.

1568
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: But remember he stopped Josh Barnett with what ten finger

1569
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: guillotine like he's got real skills on the mat as well.

1570
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: I'll just say I hope. Listen, a guy's trying out

1571
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: there make money with what he has built in his career.

1572
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: I remember when he was the IFL champion and he

1573
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: was fighting Roy Nelson for their belt. I remember all

1574
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: that very distinctly. He's been in the game a long time,

1575
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: and he's entitled to if you still got a name,

1576
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: to get some big checks. But like candidly, do I

1577
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: worry about his and all these guys who have these

1578
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: long careers and then they finish off in BKFC. Do

1579
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: I worry about their brain health? Yes? I do. I

1580
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: worry about their brain health and what kind of you know,

1581
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: injury that they have sustained. Because we just don't know

1582
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: a lot about how to detect. We don't have hardly

1583
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: any measure at all to detect CTE and anybody who's alive,

1584
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: so you know, he's his own man.

1585
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: We should create a CTE breathalyzer which all fighters have

1586
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,959
Speaker 2: to take on their way into the ring or octagon,

1587
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: and the number is put up over the big screen.

1588
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: Look that seems a little bit much, but yeah, I.

1589
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: Mean you could probably do it back room. Yeah, you're right,

1590
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 2: you can probably do a back room with the doctor

1591
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: where no one finds out, you know, unless your numbers

1592
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 2: too high and then we forced you to retire and

1593
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: you end up boxing over the border or something. I mean, look,

1594
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: the look the endgame of combat sports is primarily sad.

1595
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 2: That's the why we try to focus on the early

1596
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 2: and mid game. Yes, thank you, all right.

1597
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: Scott KOKERBC, the president of Bellator, says he might be

1598
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: open to open scoring for belatore events. Where are you

1599
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: on open scoring? And I'll tell you I have to

1600
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: say this. I'm not the biggest proponent of open scoring.

1601
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: I don't hate it, I don't love it. I think

1602
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: both sides make a lot of claims about what it

1603
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: will do for MMA or what its value is, and

1604
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: all of it's pretty questionable. But I will say, if

1605
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: you are Bellator doing something a little bit different than UFC,

1606
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: even if it's open scoring, which let's be clear about this,

1607
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: that would have to be the commission doing that. Belator

1608
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: couldn't force them to do it. They could ask the

1609
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: commission to do it, and the commission could then agree.

1610
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: But let's assume that they got that in play. Would

1611
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: it be enough of a product differentiation to create a

1612
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: little separation from themselves in UFC probably a little bit,

1613
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: but to me it would only be acknowledging like hardcore

1614
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: fan demand. I don't know what it would really mean

1615
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: other than that, I.

1616
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 2: Know it's like we're trying to put it in there

1617
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: to curb bad decisions, right, and sort of sores.

1618
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: Let me actually back up a step on that, because

1619
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: you're raising something interesting. There are two schools of thought

1620
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: on open scoring. One is that you need it to

1621
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 1: fix bad judging, or at least you know there were

1622
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: some fights that would be bad, and then folk the

1623
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: fighters to get better information and you could avoid the

1624
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: kind of bad outcome that sometimes happens with judging. That's

1625
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: one argument that it would in some ways meaningfully improve

1626
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: outcomes away from bad judging. The other argument, though, is

1627
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: that it has nothing to do with judging. It is

1628
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 1: something that however, fighters are owed. It's not about fixing

1629
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: any problem. It's about it's about giving fighters information that

1630
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: they should actually have as a matter of principle. So

1631
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 1: it's schools of thought.

1632
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: They're okay, I disagree, and it's and it's selfish and

1633
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 2: it's from a fan point of view. But here's the deal.

1634
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: The suspense of not knowing who won in any combat sport.

1635
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 2: The look the combat sports are set up, right, used

1636
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: to not be a limit on rounds in boxing, right

1637
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 2: like one hundred years ago. They were set up to

1638
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 2: where you go in there and whoever gets the knockout wins. Okay,

1639
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 2: that was a little inhumane when we're boxing forty rounds

1640
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 2: with minimally pad gloves and you got two tough guys,

1641
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: so you began to get an evolution in what you're

1642
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: putting in rounds and breaks and commissions and all that.

1643
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 2: To me, though that the heart of the matter is

1644
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 2: still you go in there and boxing or MMA to

1645
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 2: get the finish. If you don't, you leave it in

1646
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 2: the subjective hands of who that state's commission hired for

1647
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 2: that fight. As a fan, I still love the suspense

1648
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 2: of not knowing, along with the fighters and everybody else,

1649
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,879
Speaker 2: who won until the moment, and any type of argument

1650
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 2: of well what about a fighter who is really down

1651
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 2: on the cards but they think they're up. Shouldn't they

1652
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 2: know they have to fight harder? I mean, look, here's

1653
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 2: a wake up call. UFC already has win bonuses, and

1654
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 2: that built into the contract in finish bonuses to try

1655
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 2: to amp up this. I would not want the flip

1656
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 2: side of it, which is Fighter A has a bigger

1657
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 2: lead than they thought, so they just play it safe

1658
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 2: the rest of the way and take a guy down

1659
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 2: or whatever. No, I don't want that. I'd rather play

1660
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 2: off of not actually knowing. In every fighter knowing that

1661
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: you never can rest on your laurels. You always have

1662
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: to keep going. And I think from a viewing experience,

1663
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I would favor that

1664
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 2: in terms of fighters' rights. Should they know, I mean

1665
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 2: they've never really known before. Would I be against any

1666
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 2: promotion going for the you know, we want this as

1667
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 2: our identity, to try this out, Sure, try it out.

1668
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll maybe in the long run, Luke, I'll be

1669
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 2: a fan that comes around and goes, no, it's better

1670
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: this way. But I kind of need to be shown

1671
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 2: that it's better that way. So if Belcher wants to

1672
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 2: be the one that does it, then we'll see the

1673
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 2: pluses and minuses and we'll add it up as it happens.

1674
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 2: But if you're asking me as a fan, no, I

1675
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 2: want the suspense, all right.

1676
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 1: Francis Anghanu says that he will only sign with the

1677
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: UFC if and only if, it's a non starter. It

1678
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: said absolute must no negotiation. Otherwise, if the Fury fight

1679
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: is in the contract, does the UFC bend or not?

1680
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: It's a loaded question, Luke, it's a real loaded question.

1681
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 1: I think they tell him to pound sand. People think

1682
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: that the UFC wants this money, dude, they're fucking drowning

1683
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: in money.

1684
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1685
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't think you're here at all.

1686
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 2: And we do have to remember that argument we made

1687
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 2: last show. As much as I love Francis's upside and

1688
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 2: think at heavyweight he could do this for a while,

1689
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 2: he has thirty five coming off a seriou knee injury.

1690
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 2: Is that the guy that you're going to make concessions

1691
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: to knowing that you're going to open the door to

1692
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 2: more of this? Or do you want to hold firm

1693
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 2: and say no when you're under contract to us until

1694
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: you unionize and make us change it. We get to

1695
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 2: decide if you're going to do that other shit on

1696
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: the side that's going to get in the way and

1697
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 2: bring you more money and attention.

1698
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 1: Unless But I think I'll say this, I think Francis

1699
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: is right to put this the way he's putting it.

1700
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: If it's not and it's just a leveraging point. It's

1701
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: super smart, like, well, we'll start this conversation when you

1702
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: realize you're gonna pay me. You're gonna pay me one

1703
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 1: way or the other. The other sort of school thought

1704
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: though THEREBC is you know, UFC could like not pay

1705
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: as much on the fight end and then let him

1706
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: have the Tyson Fury fight collect some of that and

1707
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: so he would get he would get more in the

1708
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: end than he ordinarily would with a fight contract, but

1709
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 1: he wouldn't they UFC wouldn't be on the hook for

1710
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: paying it as much because he would just get a

1711
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 1: huge financial windfall from the potential Tyson Fury boxing fight.

1712
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: There's that. There's that option as well. I agree with you.

1713
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 2: And you said something very poignant on Monday, which which

1714
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 2: was about when I brought up Disney. And if you

1715
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 2: think about it, who does Dana White actually answer to Luke?

1716
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 2: Who does number two walk far right? Luke? He still answers,

1717
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 2: I guess to his bosses at Endeavor and certainly to

1718
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: Disney slash ESPN, Because Luke, what is the percentage that

1719
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 2: their annual TV contract means to their to the overall UFC,

1720
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 2: Like it's what it's got to be like tventy five percent, right,

1721
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 2: I mean they're not.

1722
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: Actually it's a little bit less, but pretty close. I mean,

1723
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: if you just do the math, they made over a

1724
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: billion last year and I think in revenue but in yes,

1725
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: that's right in revenue, and seven hundred and fifty million

1726
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: of it comes from the ESPN deal annually.

1727
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 2: So that's still a boss yes to respect, unless Disney

1728
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 2: is coming down the pipe and saying, do you realize

1729
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 2: how we can market this baddest man on the planet

1730
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 2: on you know, on beating boxing champion against battle tested

1731
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 2: have a made champion? The rules are split. We're gonna

1732
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: find the middle ground. Unless they are making that campaign,

1733
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 2: than no chance in hell, Luke, And maybe I'm over

1734
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 2: maybe I'm even over estimating the controlled Disney would have

1735
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 2: in even that scenario. Can they get Dana out of

1736
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 2: Taichi Palace with a with a commission saying no, Apparently

1737
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: they can, Luke, but that may be as far as

1738
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 2: they can go.

1739
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: Uh BC. Dan Hardy, who is going to be having

1740
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: a boxing match with Diego Sanchez on the undercard of

1741
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: the who is it Ricky Hattn't? And who does he have?

1742
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 1: The exhibition against.

1743
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 2: Marco Antonio Brerera.

1744
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Barrera now. But here's the key. Dan Hardy

1745
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: says he's making more for boxing Diego than he made

1746
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: in all of his UFC paychecks combined.

1747
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 2: Are you serious, dude?

1748
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1749
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 2: Good?

1750
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: Which is? Which is by the way, is like entirely believable.

1751
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 1: There's no part about that that is surprising at all.

1752
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 2: Do I like this for Dan Hardy?

1753
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 1: If it's about about the locker room bonuses? Everybody? Yeah,

1754
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: what about them?

1755
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 2: Well, bring John Nash in here and I'll really tell

1756
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 2: you about them. But Luke, is it about if it's

1757
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 2: about Dan Hardy, you know, buying that vacation home, having

1758
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: having the money to do it after a long you know,

1759
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 2: a career spent at a high level before he walked away. Okay,

1760
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 2: go do it at your risk. I love you Dan Hardy,

1761
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 2: by the way, fantastic analysts and personality, and he likes

1762
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 2: to be very beautiful women. Luke, I don't want Diego

1763
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 2: Sanchez a part of this, though, I mean, come on,

1764
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 2: I mean, how many more times, how many more Eagle

1765
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 2: f c's bkfcs? How many more times are we gonna

1766
01:21:59,200 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: sanction Diego?

1767
01:21:59,840 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: Say?

1768
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 2: Have we not seen enough to know we've seen too much.

1769
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,799
Speaker 2: Do we not love this man enough to make him stop?

1770
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 2: The only place Diego Sanchez should be fighting and you

1771
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 2: can laugh at this or turn your face at this

1772
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 2: is the parking lot of the Lava Shack. And even then, Luke,

1773
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 2: he shouldn't be fighting there. But that's you want to

1774
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 2: talk about. The last stop on the on the combat

1775
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 2: food chain drive. I thought it was BKFC. No, it's

1776
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 2: the fucking Lava Shack. Unless he's fighting there, Luke, because

1777
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 2: he's got issues. Stop the madness. Okay, In fact, Luke,

1778
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 2: to save Diego's brain, I think you should box hardy.

1779
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: Okay, fuck that, dude. I'm old and pathetic and I'm

1780
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: not a boxer and no Jesus know, but I'll say this, dude,

1781
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 1: I do worry about all the I mean, I don't

1782
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 1: want to ever deny a guy of heyday, but like

1783
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, just candidly, candidly speaking, do I worry about

1784
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: all the damage Diego has taken. I don't think people

1785
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 1: really recognize how much of it there is. There's a

1786
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: shit ton that he's absorbed, you know, And I don't

1787
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: know if he saved his money. I doubt that he has,

1788
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: so I it's just a tough situation.

1789
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: It's a really Hey, look, our producer Mikey wants us

1790
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 2: to consider on open scoring, what if we showed just

1791
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 2: one of the judges' scores to the fighters? And I

1792
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: want to add, what if we showed the scores to

1793
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 2: only the fighters? Is there any sort of middle ground

1794
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 2: on open scoring that could work?

1795
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 1: But the thing is is like, dude, if you're gonna

1796
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: do open scoring, then just do it right. This whole

1797
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 1: shit like, oh well, I mean, I understand the point

1798
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: the question, which I think is a fair one, but

1799
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: I just mean to answer it in this way, which is,

1800
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, we're going to trickle out a little bit

1801
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: of information. What does that that you're you're giving me

1802
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: more incomplete information? It doesn't really tell me a whole lot,

1803
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 1: especially if like one judge has it thirty twenty seven

1804
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: one way, another one has it thirty twenty seven the

1805
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: other way. It doesn't really provide a very meaningful experience.

1806
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: What you have to see is what the judges are saying.

1807
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: What have they what have they assessed to this point?

1808
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: So either you're going to do that or you're not

1809
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: going to do this. The sort of slide of hand

1810
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: where you go halfway. I don't know. It doesn't really

1811
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: work for me, doesn't only work for me. And in

1812
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: the last but not least, Paul Day's gonna fight someone

1813
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: named Wendel gm Como at Beltore two eighty one. So

1814
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: there you go.

1815
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 2: All right, well there's that, Luke.

1816
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: All right, time for I guess we're doing what trivia now?

1817
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 2: So I just want to say I told you over

1818
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 2: Texas morning.

1819
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 1: Dude.

1820
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 2: Do you have any idea how excited I was when

1821
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 2: I woke up to seeing Chuck d of Public Enemy

1822
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 2: following me on Twitter. I mean, like, look, it was

1823
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 2: fucking like, you know, full full circle, full bloom, twelve

1824
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 2: year old me with a with a cassette deck, just

1825
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 2: going fired up until I realized he follows ninety seven

1826
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 2: thousand people, Luke, which means he probably didn't even follow me.

1827
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 2: It was probably some publicist, right.

1828
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: I did have Nick Diaz followed me on Instagram this morning.

1829
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: It's that that's not bad. Now he follows he follows

1830
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: four thousand people on Instagram, so it's not that exclusive

1831
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: a club, but it is, well, that could.

1832
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 2: Mean he actually wanted to follow you and wants your

1833
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: or maybe wants to fight you, Luke. That could be

1834
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 2: cool too. Here we go, Luke. Every Wednesday we waste

1835
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: time in the second half of the show, usually around

1836
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 2: a segment built upon getting Luke to answered questions he

1837
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: doesn't want to. This week we call it truth or trivia.

1838
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,799
Speaker 1: All right, truth or trivia. This is gonna be terrible.

1839
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: I have a feeling.

1840
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 2: All right, folks, here's the premise. I have five personal

1841
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 2: questions that Luke will not want to answer publicly. In

1842
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 2: order to avoid those, each question is preceded by a

1843
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 2: trivia question. It's simple, Luke, get the trivia question right,

1844
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 2: avoid the personal one. Here we go Number one, you

1845
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,839
Speaker 2: vapor piece of shit. Steepe Meochich. Luke is widely considered

1846
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: the most decorated heavyweight in UFC history, thanks in large

1847
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,879
Speaker 2: part to his total number of title defenses and victories.

1848
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 2: In fact, step A leads all UFC heavyweights with the

1849
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:47,759
Speaker 2: most victories in title bouts with six. Two other UFC

1850
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 2: heavyweights have won at least five different title bouts in

1851
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 2: the octagon. Name them.

1852
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: The only heavy one with at least five wins in

1853
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: title bouts.

1854
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 2: Stepe has six. He's in first place. Who is tied

1855
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 2: for second with five each, and they put a thirty

1856
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 2: second clock on the screen. Damn.

1857
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 1: Okay, Well one of these is easy. One is Randy Coutur.

1858
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 1: That one's very easy. Oh that second one is tough.

1859
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: Well you just think about who the champions were. Oh,

1860
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: fuck balls, I'm gonna.

1861
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 2: I'll give you. I'll give you a bonus twenty seconds here. Okay,

1862
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 2: after this this buzzer hits.

1863
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's not Lesnar, it's not Josh Barnett, it's

1864
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: not Rico Rodriguez, Tim Sylvia, Timah.

1865
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:41,799
Speaker 2: You got it, Luke, correct, Tim Sylvia a multi time champion.

1866
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 2: Five overall? Well done, Luke. I thought you were gonna

1867
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 2: say Caine, I thought I got you there.

1868
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: No, ok how many did he have? How many? Because

1869
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: he had a bunch of losses in title fights too? Right?

1870
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: But how you get ahead in this category of most

1871
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 2: wins in title fights is by losing your title and

1872
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 2: coming back.

1873
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 1: Luke, Right, that's right? Or now were you counting for Kator?

1874
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: Were you counting any of his light heavyweight wins? Because

1875
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 1: those are also title fight wins and he also was

1876
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: a heavyweight.

1877
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 2: I got this from the UFC record page, which they

1878
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 2: update themselves and I hit the menu to click heavyweights only. Okay, Luke,

1879
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 2: there you go. Wow, you avoided a very personal question. There,

1880
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 2: here we go number two, Luke. Despite other UFC pay

1881
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 2: per view cards producing more total buys, including a larger

1882
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 2: attendance and a larger livegate, most MMA fans will look

1883
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: back to the fondest at two thousand and nine's UFC

1884
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 2: one hundred card, an early celebration of where the fight

1885
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 2: promotion became. It emanated from Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.

1886
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,759
Speaker 2: It produced one point six million pay per view buys.

1887
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 2: Most people call it the greatest, grandest show in the

1888
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 2: promotion's twenty nine year history. Luke, you already know Brock

1889
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 2: Lesnar Frankmir two was your main event for the undisputed

1890
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 2: heavyweight title. There were four other victorious fighters though, on

1891
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: the pay per view main card beyond Lesner, and here's

1892
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 2: your hint. Two of them were welterweights, two of them

1893
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: were middleweights. Who are the four victorious UFC one hundred

1894
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 2: main card fights?

1895
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,719
Speaker 1: Well, I can name two more easily. One is Dan Henderson,

1896
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 1: one is Saint Pierre.

1897
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, who do they beat just for shits?

1898
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 1: Luke? Henderson beat Bisping, Saint Pierre beat Thiciago Alvis. Yes,

1899
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 1: all right, so I have one more welterweight and I

1900
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: have one more middleweight, you said, right, Yes, I did.

1901
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 1: Is John Fitch one of the other welterweights?

1902
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 2: Correct? He defeated Paulo Tiago.

1903
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 1: Luke, Yes, and there's a middleweight huh yep?

1904
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 2: He was, yeah, yeah, I'll give you enough hints.

1905
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, there's another middleweight on that card.

1906
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 2: Fourteen seconds, Luke.

1907
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: Fuck two thousand and nine. Who was it? I'm just

1908
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 1: gonna say, I don't think it was. But no, it

1909
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: couldn't have been Anderson Silva. Was it Demi and Maya?

1910
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1911
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 2: Incorrect, Luke. It was a UFC debuting Yoshi hero Ahiyama

1912
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 2: who feed Alan Belcher in.

1913
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: A close This was actually a good fight too, Yeah

1914
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: it was, it was, Luke.

1915
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 2: All right, Lucas, time for some truth, you old bitch.

1916
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: Luke, it's a tough question. That was hard.

1917
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 2: Well, you swept like four of the five last time

1918
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 2: we did this. I had to amp it up a

1919
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 2: little bit, Luke. Due to the slow but steady legalization

1920
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 2: and decriminalization of marijuana across the US, more fighters have

1921
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 2: been able to dial M for milligrams and openly flaunt

1922
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 2: their love of weed than ever before without stigma or penalty.

1923
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 2: In fact, you're vaping right now, Dirle. So why don't

1924
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 2: we have some fun, Luke and forced you to name

1925
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 2: your first team all tobacco squad for the sport of MMA.

1926
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 2: What that means is name the five fighters five only,

1927
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,839
Speaker 2: who you believe likely ingested the most amount of THCHC

1928
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: in the past thirty days.

1929
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: Well, you call them all tobacco. They wouldn't be all

1930
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 1: tobacco right.

1931
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 2: In this I call it all tobacco. But in this case,

1932
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 2: I mean THHC. Here a weed.

1933
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean which five fighters have had the most THHC

1934
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 1: in the last thirty days? Yes, all right, Nick and

1935
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: Nate Diaz be your top two. Okay, Oh that's a

1936
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: tough one. Uh, top five weed heads. I guess we

1937
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 1: can't say Rosenthal, right because he's not a fighter, Luke. Yeah. Uh,

1938
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 1: we can't say Archa Letta because he's not a UFC guy,

1939
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: right or is it m M A is in general?

1940
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 1: So I'll go Archie Letta. I'll go Archie Letta.

1941
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 2: He does his family does own acres of fields.

1942
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: Luke, Yes, God bless him, God bless them. I'll say, uh, oh,

1943
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 1: you know what, it's Jake Shields. It's basically like Team Scrappack.

1944
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: I like Jake Shields. Jake Shields. I see him every

1945
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 1: every time we've been I've ever like been to like

1946
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 1: a any kind of every time I even look at

1947
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: like what's happening at the high Rollers. Boy, Jake Shields

1948
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 1: is always there, like beating fuckers up in those competitions

1949
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: and everything else.

1950
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 2: Well, they just hand out jars full of those gimmicks.

1951
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: Luke and I talked to Jake Shields. I talked to

1952
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 1: Jake Shields for like an hour at the last one,

1953
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 1: and they just kept bringing us the free the pre rolls.

1954
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, this is like here, BC, hold

1955
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 2: my laptop. I gotta talked to Jake Shields.

1956
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let me say this, if you guys are

1957
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 1: ever in Vegas and they have an event, you should

1958
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: go to high Rollers. It's a fucking great time. But

1959
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: so those are my four. I gotta give one more.

1960
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 1: He's got to be a woman who's like just outrageous

1961
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:18,759
Speaker 1: with the marijuana.

1962
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 2: I thought you were going o'd mally here, Luke.

1963
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 1: Oh, how did I not say O'Malley? Yes, great call ship.

1964
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 1: Yes that's so much better. I was just guy because

1965
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: she's also there a lot.

1966
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I needed a female on the old

1967
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 2: weed team, Luke. And you're going, you're going.

1968
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: I oh go, just guy. I think she gets busy

1969
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:35,959
Speaker 1: with the marijuana, like like your boy.

1970
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 2: Mikey mor Miles saying we should go Kevin Holland and

1971
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 2: this team here.

1972
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 1: He's but he's too sober. That fucker's out fighting crime.

1973
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:44,600
Speaker 1: How much weed could he have in his system if

1974
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 1: he's out there just beating up people with fucking handguns.

1975
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 1: I doubt that. I doubt that.

1976
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, all right, Uh here we go Trivia

1977
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 2: question number three, Luke from Merco Philipovich to Mersad Bechtik.

1978
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 2: The group of urine Pia Nations formerly known as Yugoslavia,

1979
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 2: has produced numerous MMA talent, including those born abroad like

1980
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 2: Alexander Rakich and Stepe Miocic and for all you history

1981
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 2: buffs out there, Yugoslavia first came into existence in nineteen eighteen,

1982
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 2: following World War One, and with the exception of a

1983
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 2: four year run beginning in nineteen forty one, when the

1984
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 2: government was in exile amid the invasion of the Excess

1985
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 2: Powers at World War Two. Yugoslavia remained intact until nineteen

1986
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 2: ninety two. Luke, you you know you fancy yourself a

1987
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 2: man of the world.

1988
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: Here.

1989
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 2: Currently there are seven independent nations which make up the

1990
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 2: former Yugoslavia. Name five of them, Luke, Oh.

1991
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. This is a weak point for me.

1992
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: This is a weak point for me. I cannot. I

1993
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 1: won't even attempt.

1994
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 2: Dude, I thought you would sweep all seven because you're

1995
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 2: a total world politics and nerd. This is.

1996
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 1: Parts of like Eastern European geography are weak points for me.

1997
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 1: There are absolute week points. So I will not attempt.

1998
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 1: I will. I will take the LT here.

1999
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 2: Well, you can't. You can't take the L and go zero.

2000
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 2: You've got to try, Luke, Okay, No, I don't.

2001
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna no, No, I'm going to take the L.

2002
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 2: You literally cannot name one former Yugoslavian nation.

2003
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 1: I probably could name a few, but because I know

2004
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 1: for a fact I cannot even get close to five,

2005
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going to.

2006
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 2: Because you can't win. You won't play you You I

2007
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 2: mean you're serious.

2008
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, you you throw this on me with no

2009
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: prep whatsoever. I don't know. I don't know a lot

2010
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 1: about former Yugoslavia. I'm admitting I don't and uh, I'll

2011
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:33,679
Speaker 1: take the l I gotta answer now an embarrassing question.

2012
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 2: So what is your bias against Eastern European It started

2013
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 2: with women, now it's continuing to this nation. The The answer,

2014
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 2: Luke was Bosnia, Herzegovina, Croatia, Kosovo, Montenegro, North Macedonia, all up.

2015
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 1: Couple of those that would have gotten But no, I

2016
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 1: would have fucked this all up. Yeah, I didn't know.

2017
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

2018
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, Luke, I love, this is exposing you. All right,

2019
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 2: it's time for some truth here, Luke.

2020
01:33:58,720 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 1: This is what you do.

2021
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 2: You know, Luke, everyone loves a good redemption or reunion story,

2022
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 2: which probably explains why our MK pregame preview video with

2023
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 2: Ariel Hawani, which we filmed in Tampa ahead of Paul

2024
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:14,799
Speaker 2: Woodley two, had double the traffic of any other pregame

2025
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 2: preview we filmed. So imagine a dark yet oddly realistic

2026
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,759
Speaker 2: scenario in which my liver gives out at the exact

2027
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 2: moment in which the fungus on my colliflower toes turns

2028
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,759
Speaker 2: to Gang Green at the exact moment that Anthony Smith

2029
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 2: assaults me during an MK live show, telling me to

2030
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 2: quote keep his fucking name out of my mouth, at

2031
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 2: the exact moment that Showtime decides to retroactively fire me

2032
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 2: for the Risen incident. Luke, Okay, and your boy BC

2033
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 2: croaks right there in front of your eyes on live

2034
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:51,679
Speaker 2: streaming TV like Jack Ruby sticking a gun in Oswald's gut. Okay, Luke,

2035
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure you'd be sad for a few weeks. You'd

2036
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 2: probably send flowers to my family. I'm sure Malco would

2037
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:01,799
Speaker 2: put together a clips highlight reel of my greatest moments.

2038
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 2: But look, at some point, Showtime execs are going to

2039
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 2: come to you and you know, say, hey, I know

2040
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 2: you're grieving, but you might be secretly relieved. How would

2041
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 2: you want this show to go on?

2042
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 1: Luke?

2043
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 2: We still believe MK can take over the world, and

2044
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 2: we've got an idea for the only man who really

2045
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 2: could slide into BC's chair and take this brand to

2046
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 2: an even higher level. That man, Luke, You guessed it,

2047
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 2: low Road Helwanie. So my awkward question for you is

2048
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 2: this after one year's time of Ariel replacing me in

2049
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 2: the MK chair, going three days a week as we do. Now,

2050
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 2: how high would the subscriber based on YouTube grow given

2051
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 2: your combined star power reputations within this combat sports brand?

2052
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 2: Where at what one hundred and nine thousand right now?

2053
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 2: In twelve months the reunionized Ariel and Luke show? How

2054
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 2: far does it go?

2055
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 1: Far? Uh? The thing is, with his access to all

2056
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: the fighters that he gets and the kind of interviews

2057
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 1: he pulls, it would be three or four x what

2058
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 1: we probably do to get there.

2059
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 2: To be Look, you should consider either offering me outright

2060
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 2: or trying to, you know, take some of my misdeeds

2061
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 2: and make them, make them more public.

2062
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, dude, I got an emergency. Can you hold

2063
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: on for one second? Can you tap dance for like

2064
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: thirty I haven't I have.

2065
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 2: An emergen Of course I can't.

2066
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 1: I have an emergency. Put the screen on him. I'll

2067
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 1: be right back.

2068
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 2: I got a deep well, I mean, you know, did

2069
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 2: we expect Luke to come out and outright brick Yugoslavia?

2070
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: No?

2071
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 2: And did we expect the awkwardness of that? Uh?

2072
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:45,560
Speaker 1: Of that?

2073
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 2: You know, your your wife dies and your old one

2074
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 2: slides back in, you know, to make the MK grand

2075
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 2: brand grow more. Did we expect Luke to walk away awkwardly? No,

2076
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 2: but we're in the midst of an awkward segment, and

2077
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 2: sometimes that happens at the end of the day. But yeah,

2078
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Is his neighbor mowing his lawn?

2079
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 1: Is is? Uh?

2080
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 2: It is? Uh? It's the two key slide in and

2081
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 2: pull the plugs.

2082
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: We got.

2083
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 2: We got some questions here though, to fill all right,

2084
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 2: Mikey wants to know who would be my dream guest

2085
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 2: to fill in for Luke? If it's a guest or

2086
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 2: is this a long term Uh? You know, if Luke dies,

2087
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 2: if Luke's fungus explodes in his feet and he dies,

2088
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 2: you know, how many clicks could be seeing somebody else?

2089
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:25,560
Speaker 1: Do?

2090
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 2: I think that's a that's a fair question. But uh, Luke,

2091
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 2: are you okay?

2092
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, dude, I mean, it's just one thing after

2093
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: the other. I don't know what the problem is with

2094
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:34,679
Speaker 1: everyone in this world.

2095
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 2: I golly man, Yeah, all right, so you're you know,

2096
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 2: you're saying three hundred thousand is your guest after one year?

2097
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 2: Three hundred thousand YouTube?

2098
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean that's a lot. That's a lot. Maybe not

2099
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 1: that much, but two three X for sure.

2100
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 2: It's something to think about for the future. Luke, let's

2101
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 2: go to question number four.

2102
01:37:56,360 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Yes, Okay, okay, Luke.

2103
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 2: There's a great website out there for music. I live

2104
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:08,560
Speaker 2: in Diabite. It's called AllMusic dot Com, and based on

2105
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 2: their profile here, they are calling Cannibal Corpse quote one

2106
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 2: of the most influential and contentious death metal bands of

2107
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:22,639
Speaker 2: all time. Formed in nineteen ninety with a furious musical

2108
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 2: assault marked by blast beats, throaty vocals, and high, highly

2109
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 2: violent lyrics end quote Luke. Despite a consistent amount of controversy.

2110
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 1: Over the years for your favorite band.

2111
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 2: It has released sixteen albums under the record label Metal

2112
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 2: Blade going back twenty one years, Luke. Five of those

2113
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 2: sixteen albums have recorded at least a four star rating

2114
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 2: by AllMusic dot Com on their five star scale within

2115
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:55,679
Speaker 2: that specific genre name. All four of the albums over

2116
01:38:55,760 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 2: the sixteens in the career of Cannibal Corpse that have

2117
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 2: been rated four stars are higher by AllMusic dot Com.

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01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: Ooh, that is a I don't know what the answer is,

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01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna have to guess, wo Man, name.

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01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 2: Four of the five total Sorry, there's five total? Name one, two, three,

2121
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 2: four five? Name four of the five total that are

2122
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 2: ranked four stars are higher?

2123
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: Is kill on there, Luke?

2124
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 2: That would be incorrect.

2125
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: Here is a skeletal domain.

2126
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:34,560
Speaker 2: That would also be incorrect. Look, maybe you're listening to

2127
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 2: the wrong Cannibal Corpse albums.

2128
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,639
Speaker 1: God, what were the ones that critics highly reviewed?

2129
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all it's all bullshit to me, Luke.

2130
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 2: But you're the one who can carve through.

2131
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 1: Dude, I have no fucking idea which ones they're highly rated?

2132
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 1: I could say which ones I like?

2133
01:39:56,920 --> 01:40:00,799
Speaker 2: All right, nineteen Butcher at Birth.

2134
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 1: Okay, that's one of the famous ones.

2135
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 2: Yes, nineteen ninety four is the bleeding back to life,

2136
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 2: Vile from ninety six, gore Obsessed from two thousand and two,

2137
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 2: and their last big critically claimed one was twenty twelve's Torture, Luke,

2138
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 2: everything else is shit apparently.

2139
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. Okay, all right, what's my question? Then?

2140
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:23,959
Speaker 1: I would have never gotten.

2141
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 2: That one Yugoslavian metal fan. You are, all right, Luke,

2142
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 2: here's your truth moment. I don't want a multiple answer.

2143
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 2: I don't want three or four or two. I want one.

2144
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:35,600
Speaker 2: What is the single moment of your professional career that

2145
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 2: has been the most validating personally?

2146
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 1: And why? Which single moment?

2147
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 2: Yes, let's go inside the actor studio here, Luke, let's

2148
01:40:58,960 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 2: find out.

2149
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,560
Speaker 1: You know, I've had a few ones that were you

2150
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 1: know what, I will tell you that, you know, most

2151
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 1: validating just sort of depends on what you want it

2152
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 1: to mean. I will say, I think the first time

2153
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 1: I sat so I remember, Okay, you know what it

2154
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 1: led to so much, so I'm gonna mention this one.

2155
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 1: The very first ever professional MMA event in Washington, d

2156
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 1: C was in May of two thousand and seven, and

2157
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: I conned my way into calling that fight along with

2158
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 1: the guy by the name of Charlie Neil, who had

2159
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 1: done a lot of HBCU sports covers and some other

2160
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 1: local coverage as well as an announcer. And you know,

2161
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 1: it was one of these crazy events back in that

2162
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 1: time when they were popping up all over the place.

2163
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 1: So I really I love the fact that I was

2164
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 1: part of the first ever professional MMA event in DC.

2165
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 1: I think it's like a little feather in my cap

2166
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 1: that I'm very proud of. And the guy who was

2167
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 1: the ring announcer on that card was a guy who

2168
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 1: now his name is JP and he hosts a one

2169
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 1: on four host the Junkies here in Washington, d C.

2170
01:41:58,160 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 1: These guys have been on the air for twenty years

2171
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 1: or fucking institution. He was one of the guys on

2172
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 1: that which got me into doing his show, and then

2173
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 1: the show for a time called Big O and Dukes

2174
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 1: I did for a while, and then I remember the

2175
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 1: program director called me into his office one day and

2176
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 1: I was just like a guest on their shows. Because

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01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 1: this is when UFC was starting to heat up post

2178
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: Ultimate Fighter, but no one knew anything about it, and

2179
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: I knew at least a little bit about it. I

2180
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 1: was working at Bloody Elbow at the time. And then

2181
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 1: he invited me into his office and he said, hey,

2182
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 1: we'd like to give you a show, a radio show.

2183
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 1: And this was still when radio was kind of hot.

2184
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still hot, but you know, in two

2185
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, radio was still

2186
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:38,520
Speaker 1: a very very important means of you know, media communication

2187
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 1: and a very to an extent to an extent, glamorous industry.

2188
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:45,560
Speaker 1: And I just was over the moon about that. I

2189
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 1: didn't expect it I wasn't asking for one, I wasn't

2190
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 1: even thinking about it, and then he just did it.

2191
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 1: And it was only a weekend show. It wasn't a

2192
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 1: big deal, but it opened so many doors for me,

2193
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 1: and I learned so much from the job, and it

2194
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 1: was so fulfilling to do that, to do that work,

2195
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,759
Speaker 1: I've had bigger moments, you know, getting on TV, getting

2196
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 1: this gig or bigger. We're definitely bigger, but in terms

2197
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 1: of like sentimental value, that was up there. Also when

2198
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 1: we did the Espionation Consensus USA Today MMA rankings and

2199
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 1: we had our rankings in every USA Today and every

2200
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,560
Speaker 1: hotel room and every pren edition every month. That was

2201
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 1: pretty big too. Like I was pretty proud of that.

2202
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 2: All right, Look, that was a good answer. You didn't

2203
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 2: you didn't, Yeah, you did it.

2204
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:27,160
Speaker 1: Thank you.

2205
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 2: I'm proud of you. Is that the promotion that you

2206
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 2: called the Brendan shob Fighting.

2207
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: So it's funny you mentioned that I was working at

2208
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 1: that radio station at the time that I was doing that,

2209
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:39,759
Speaker 1: but that was called UWC. I was a terrible commentator.

2210
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you listened to me do it, I

2211
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 1: would He's probably unbearable to hear. I was not good

2212
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: at it, but yes I was. I think it was

2213
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 1: Shobs like second or third profight. He felt like the

2214
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: local guy who was a big, tough wrestler from Mason,

2215
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 1: and Shob fucked him up completely.

2216
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 2: I would like someday to get footage of that fight

2217
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 2: in your call and you know, do like a behind

2218
01:43:59,040 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 2: the scenes with you and Schopp.

2219
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should. I would. I'd love to do that

2220
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 1: with him because I actually remember seeing him. I'd done

2221
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: some homework on him. I remember seeing him and then

2222
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 1: the first time I he was like, well he was

2223
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 1: in good shape, you know, he was a formidable athlete.

2224
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: And then when he walked by, I was like, you're

2225
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 1: Brendon Job and we got to talking. There's actually a

2226
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 1: picture of us talking for the first time, and and

2227
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 1: he went in there and made short work of this dude.

2228
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 1: It was like, I was like, it was nothing, so.

2229
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, let's make you uncomfortable one final time, Luke.

2230
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 2: You know the questions, escalating difficulty. Let's see if you

2231
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 2: get this. This is your last one, Luke. In twenty

2232
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:33,719
Speaker 2: two trips to the octagon, your arch nemesis John Jones

2233
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 2: has won twenty times, with only of course, the DQ

2234
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:39,719
Speaker 2: lost to Matt Hamill and the no contest with DC

2235
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 2: and their twenty seventeen rematch as the lone blemishes of

2236
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 2: those twenty UFC wins. Five have come by submission. Not

2237
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 2: only do I want you to name all five, Luke,

2238
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 2: but I'll give you a hint. Three of the five

2239
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 2: came in the calendar year of twenty eleven. Who are

2240
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 2: the five UFC fighters? John Jones has submits?

2241
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 1: Did Leoto Machida? Ryan Bader? Let me think here? So

2242
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: let's go through these Jcobrien did he submit? No? I

2243
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 1: don't think so, right, Uh, he didn't submit. Matthew Shanko

2244
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 1: or vera showgun? Did? Are we counting people? Did? No?

2245
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 1: That was a t KO. So then we had the

2246
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 1: two gust of Syn fights. That wouldn't count, two Cormier

2247
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 1: fights those don't count, Smith Reyes Santos don't count. Now

2248
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 1: we say five? Are all five of those in UFC?

2249
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 2: Yes?

2250
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Bonner, no goose Maud, no shit, dude? Who the

2251
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 1: fuck am I forgetting here?

2252
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 2: Look, you have run out of the time. Do you

2253
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 2: want to make a final guest here? You have run

2254
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:52,800
Speaker 2: out of time?

2255
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:54,759
Speaker 1: Can you get can you give me one hint.

2256
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,840
Speaker 2: One right, you said Jacobrien and then you said no,

2257
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 2: he was one of them. So that's three. Can you

2258
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 2: get the other two?

2259
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 1: He didn't submit? Oh he did submit, Vitor didn't he? Yes,

2260
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 1: that's four. Who is the fifth one? He submitted?

2261
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 2: I think you got it wrong, Luke. All right, you

2262
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 2: had a good effort. It was a good fight, Luke.

2263
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 2: We were looking for Quentin Rampage Jackson two thousand and

2264
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 2: one page.

2265
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:23,639
Speaker 1: From the back. You choked him from the back? Yes,

2266
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 1: I was there. It was in Denver at the Pepsi Center.

2267
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, your final uncomfortable question. Maybe this is

2268
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 2: the last time this segment appears. I think it's died

2269
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 2: a slow death in front of our eyes.

2270
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 1: Luke, No, I actually like this segment. I'm sorry. I

2271
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 1: had an emergency. It's fuck it. I can't get a break.

2272
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:37,080
Speaker 1: I can't get a break.

2273
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 2: Look, with the exception of myself, who serves as a

2274
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 2: bit of a hybrid friend, co host and competitor in

2275
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,560
Speaker 2: this space at different times, depending on the time of

2276
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:52,600
Speaker 2: the day, which three active media members or media personalities

2277
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 2: in the greater combat sports space do you feel, really

2278
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 2: are your biggest competitors in what you do in terms

2279
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 2: of their six and how it motivates you to be

2280
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 2: better at your own craft.

2281
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 1: I don't, you were. I don't pay attention to a

2282
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 1: single thing anyone else does.

2283
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 2: I don't believe that for a half fucking second at all. Well,

2284
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 2: you don't take you don't check the comments either, right, Luke, No.

2285
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 1: I checked. I always tell you the truth about it.

2286
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: I always checked them on occasion. I do not check

2287
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 1: them every episode. I checked them on occasion, so that

2288
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:25,680
Speaker 1: that is definitely the reality there, Dude, I don't. I

2289
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to what the competitors do, but to

2290
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 1: answer the question in good faith in the way in

2291
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 1: which you're asking it. I think the three biggest names,

2292
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 1: or the names where you know they're doing something similar

2293
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:38,560
Speaker 1: to us, or maybe they're a little bit ahead of

2294
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 1: us in a certain way, you know, in the same

2295
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 1: kind of space. Obviously, Ariel, you gotta put him number one.

2296
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 1: I'd probably put Brett Okamoto in there as well.

2297
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 2: He's great, dude, Brett. You know everything you want to

2298
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 2: said about his looks aside, Brett's fucking good at what

2299
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 2: he does.

2300
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 1: I think you want to bang Brett more than.

2301
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 2: You want he's very handsome man.

2302
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: You know, I was watching who would bang brett O

2303
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 1: Kamoto for BC or his wife? I'd go b C.

2304
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:04,759
Speaker 2: I love Brad. I'm I wouldn't now at all, fairness,

2305
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't bang it, but I do love him.

2306
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 1: He's a great How many beers deep was this when

2307
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 1: he congratulated us at the end of.

2308
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:14,720
Speaker 2: Awards, So yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, he was on

2309
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 2: the verge of throwing up within the next hour probably,

2310
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:20,719
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of good ones, but like relative

2311
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 2: to what we're doing, those two for sure.

2312
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 1: And then it's a little bit less clear because you

2313
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 1: have some foreign language ones that do some pretty interesting stuff.

2314
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 1: That's actually the third one is kind of I mean,

2315
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 1: I guess I might say, damn, I don't know about

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01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 1: the third one, to be honest with you, because they're

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01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:44,040
Speaker 1: all do like Kevin oliys up there, but he didn't

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01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 1: really do the same thing we do. And then Mark,

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01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 1: they don't have to do the same thing you do.

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01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 2: They could just in a sense be people that you

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01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 2: look at his competitors in the spirit like I thought

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01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 2: you were gonna pick Jail To be fair, he does TV,

2323
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 2: he does his own.

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01:48:57,200 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does a lot of similar stuff too. But again, dude,

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01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't think of him in

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01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, I want to keep it somebody who like,

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01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:07,680
Speaker 1: wasn't a former fighter, wasn't a former fight.

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01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 2: Okay, how about Submission Radio. Dude, they get big numbers

2329
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:10,799
Speaker 2: and they're they're.

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Speaker 1: Dudey, they're pretty good up there. They're pretty good up there,

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01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I'll go, Oh, that's man, it's tough.

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01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 1: You know what. You know who I'll say, I'll say

2333
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 1: Chris Mannix. Chris Mannix, he's got he's boxing. It's not

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01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 1: on MMA, but he's got the Sports Illustrated gig where

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01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,559
Speaker 1: he does boxing and NBA. I've always kind of wanted

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01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:33,839
Speaker 1: to not NBA per se, but dabble a little bit outside.

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01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 1: Plus in the boxing side. He's got the de Zone

2338
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 1: gig and he has like a podcast on top of it. Like,

2339
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: Chris Mannix has done a lot of good work as well.

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01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 1: So I'll say those. I'll say, Aeriel, Okamoto, Mannix. That

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01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:46,880
Speaker 1: is that a fair list?

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01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:49,719
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a very fair list. Hey, Mike Bowen,

2343
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Okay, I'm sorry.

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01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 1: See that's the thing. It's like there's a lot of

2345
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 1: guys do great stuff, but I just I'm just trying

2346
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 1: to think about like more on the on camera space.

2347
01:49:58,040 --> 01:49:59,719
Speaker 1: Although he does on camera work as well.

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01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 2: But yet, No, he's great, Oscar Will's great. I'll shoty

2349
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 2: a lot of great a lot.

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01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 1: Of great, tons of great ones. Danny Segura is our

2351
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 1: guy shot.

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01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, thank you for playing my bullshit reindeer games.

2353
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 2: We got one more for you. Morning Combat at gmail

2354
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:17,680
Speaker 2: dot com is the home of our producers if you

2355
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 2: want to email in Wednesday fan subs, Friday dead wrongs.

2356
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:22,680
Speaker 2: But today, Luke, we look deep and we turned the

2357
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 2: camera back on our viewers, into their souls to see

2358
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:27,639
Speaker 2: whether they can fit in a s mediam MK shirt.

2359
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:35,800
Speaker 2: This one's called fans. We've got mail, yes, mail listeners.

2360
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 2: This is Jay. He says, I've got no message for you,

2361
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:46,640
Speaker 2: but this guy sent these in last minute last Wednesday.

2362
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 2: I guess he's talking about himself.

2363
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 1: What do we got here. We haven't been that thin

2364
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 1: since we were teens.

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01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, that's Snoop Dogg level thin. Thank you

2366
01:50:57,960 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 2: for how high that was? Great?

2367
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 1: And this is what blow that up? Blow that up?

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01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 1: There we go cheechen chalks Chronicles of Brief History of Weed.

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01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 2: Thank you, we got one more. I'll take that right there. Yes,

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01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:16,680
Speaker 2: that's pretty good.

2371
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,280
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, Half Bear. You love Half Baked? I

2372
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 1: love Half Baked, but I think you love Half Baked

2373
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:23,719
Speaker 1: even more than me like you love.

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01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the greatest comedy movie of my lifetime.

2375
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:30,639
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's better for pound than comedy classics,

2376
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 2: but in my sense of humor, yeah, it's the greatest movie.

2377
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 2: It's the funniest movie of all time. All right, this

2378
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 2: one's from Julian. Hey. Boys, each time Luke Puff's on

2379
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 2: that vape, I remember him saying that he was going

2380
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 2: to quit. I laughed then, and I continue to laugh

2381
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 2: as a long time fan. Luke, may all of your

2382
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:46,679
Speaker 2: carcinogen gains not be loyal.

2383
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 1: I know I keep attempting to, but I haven't really

2384
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:55,680
Speaker 1: tried that hard. I'm pathetic. So yes, guilty, guilty as jod.

2385
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 2: All right, Tom says, Hey, thanks to Luke and BC

2386
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 2: for sharing their favorite movies. On a recent an episode

2387
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:03,639
Speaker 2: of MK, I went back and watched this nineties classic

2388
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 2: on their recommendation. Cheers from Dublin it's Tom c.

2389
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, dude, that might be the best fans off

2390
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 1: I've ever seen.

2391
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 2: Washed in, washed and washed her.

2392
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean it could not be more perfect. Two pathetic

2393
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 1: zeros who somehow have managed to fucking find their way

2394
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:24,600
Speaker 1: into something interesting. That truly is the story of this brand. Unbelievable.

2395
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Also, we have Brandon here, who says, Hi,

2396
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 2: Luke and Brian, here's a photo of me repping the

2397
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 2: drug rug this weekend at my local motocross race up

2398
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 2: here in Montana. Thanks for your awesome content. E look

2399
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 2: for Oh shit, Oh dude, that's badass, right, dude?

2400
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 1: That is that is both perfectly dubt and also fucking

2401
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 1: awesome at the same time. That is one hell of

2402
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:53,719
Speaker 1: a shot, dude. I love that one. That is great.

2403
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 2: Look. I was told the other day that they're actually

2404
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 2: called not drug rugs or Mexican hoodies. They're called Baja

2405
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:04,280
Speaker 2: hoodies because they started in the Baja section of Mexico

2406
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 2: there below California. Do you believe that, Luke?

2407
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,519
Speaker 1: I mean they're ugly, they're beautiful. Thank you.

2408
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 2: This one's from Sam. He says, say the line, say

2409
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:15,640
Speaker 2: the line.

2410
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 1: Upper bound limit. I like that.

2411
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 2: He took the average Joe art of you.

2412
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 1: Luke.

2413
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:24,920
Speaker 2: That's beautiful right there.

2414
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:27,479
Speaker 1: That. Yeah, you got one coming. You have one IA

2415
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 1: making for you as well. He's gonna make it awesome.

2416
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 1: Trust me, you'll be happy with it.

2417
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure we may have to make posters that we

2418
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 2: put out, dext Did you not take math classes in

2419
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 2: high school where they talked about the upper bound limit? No?

2420
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:41,600
Speaker 2: I mean I did take math classes, but you know I.

2421
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 1: Went to did you did you take calculus in high school?

2422
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:46,719
Speaker 2: I did pre cal Yeah, I took.

2423
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 1: Did you take calculus or did you take pre calcy

2424
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 1: ain't the same?

2425
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 2: I think both? I think both. Yeah, I think senior

2426
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 2: year I took calculus. I mean you know that was

2427
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 2: twenty six years ago, Luke. Okay, at this point, all right,

2428
01:53:57,680 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 2: I mean my kids are gonna be in high school

2429
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:03,679
Speaker 2: next year. I'm oldest dude. Jason says, what's up? BC

2430
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 2: and lt J from Boston. Here just one for you.

2431
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 2: This is how your belaitor recap should have been shown

2432
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 2: to the viewers. BC. Please hide the satchel and them

2433
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 2: chicken legs. Okay, is a family show.

2434
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean we both just looked. I just looked terrible.

2435
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 1: All the time.

2436
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Luke, I do have you know, very underdeveloped,

2437
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 2: muscularly thin legs. But you know that happens in life

2438
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 2: if you're a piece of shit, right, you know what

2439
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 2: I mean? Fat face, skinny legs. There you go. It's BC.

2440
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. That was funny. Tommy says, Hey,

2441
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 2: lug and BC, it's Tommy from Australia. I think you

2442
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 2: may also be in the one half percent of MMA fans. Oh,

2443
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 2: he might be in that percent of MMA fans who

2444
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 2: enjoy our boxing coverage. I saw the doctored photo that

2445
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:54,440
Speaker 2: Luke posted on Instagram of the those bleed views you

2446
01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 2: guys had for Spence Ugas. Fortunately I was able to

2447
01:54:57,440 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 2: source the original version of what was on your screen?

2448
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 1: Can we zoom in?

2449
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 2: I didn't see this yet. That would be Joanna's i

2450
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 2: G account. I've been there before and over. Go over

2451
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 2: to Luke's side of it. Please look at those nabs.

2452
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 1: That actually is my vape in the picture. That's the

2453
01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,839
Speaker 1: best sport about it on the table. That is awesome.

2454
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:26,440
Speaker 1: That's great. That is great.

2455
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 2: They know us better than we know ourselves, truly.

2456
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 1: That is a more accurate statement has never been uttered

2457
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:34,160
Speaker 1: on this show ever.

2458
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 2: All right, Jonah's here with a belatore meme. Luke, let's

2459
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 2: see if this is any good.

2460
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 1: Fans waiting? Dude, when is this fuck? And everyone was like, dude,

2461
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 1: don't worry, Cyborg is gonna blow her out and around

2462
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh.

2463
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 2: Todd says, these are the additional photos of Carla as

2464
01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 2: far as bachelorette party, and they're disturbing. He says, let's

2465
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 2: see what we got here.

2466
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 1: Would you show up to this bachelor party in your

2467
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 1: drug rug? That would be the only fitting move, Like

2468
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:24,919
Speaker 1: you just won the World Series and you're getting champagne

2469
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 1: sprayed in your face.

2470
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 2: Oh god, I would have definitely gone to that party.

2471
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 2: There's no question. Wow wow, all right, JP is here,

2472
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 2: my boy Jay, that my long lost French Canadian cousin.

2473
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 2: He says, I may be a week late here, but

2474
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 2: I feel it's a moment in time. We'll never forget BC.

2475
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 2: In those shorts, Luke is out and Sharon is in.

2476
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 2: BC makes her feel right at home and renames the

2477
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 2: show basic Combat.

2478
01:56:57,880 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 1: Boy.

2479
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:00,880
Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh.

2480
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 1: Dude, that is BBC sat down at the for our

2481
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 1: post fight show. He's like, who wants to go to

2482
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 1: RB's we have the meats.

2483
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 2: Are you telling me I look like hope solo? Luke?

2484
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 2: Where are you going with this? I mean, come on,

2485
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 2: bro oh boy, Okay, let's get on.

2486
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:20,400
Speaker 1: Are you punching relatives at a cookout?

2487
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 2: All right? Okay? Danger Mouse is back, Luke. You know

2488
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 2: he always gives us good stuff. He's back with a

2489
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 2: trio of TV and film related memes. Hey, BC, I've

2490
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 2: sent you to the Mandalorian to help you show those

2491
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 2: athletic greens. This is the way, Luke. Okay, this is greens.

2492
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 2: You've made a few references to the classic film pulp

2493
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 2: fiction in the last few shows, so I've taken the

2494
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:50,520
Speaker 2: opportunity to add Luke to a couple of scenes, once

2495
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 2: showing his love of coffee. That's right, Luke, that's dead on.

2496
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 2: That's dead on right there.

2497
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 1: It is pretty fair.

2498
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:01,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and finally a change of character for Luke

2499
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 2: in a shout out to Sylvester Trest the loan in

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01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:10,560
Speaker 2: a chat whose comment gave me the idea. All right,

2501
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:12,040
Speaker 2: Sylvester inspired this, Luke.

2502
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:14,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's a little much. I don't know that

2503
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm pointing a gun at the head of the fans,

2504
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 1: but yes, that is. I mean, if your gun had

2505
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 1: dead wrong me, and I've been dead wrong before, I

2506
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 1: will be dead wronged again. You gotta be accurate. That's

2507
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:24,680
Speaker 1: the deal. That's the deal.

2508
01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 2: Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Thank you all all our

2509
01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:30,120
Speaker 2: posters here. Hey, Bill and Jenny, you're still alive in

2510
01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 2: the RV. Reach out to me. I'm doing a wellness

2511
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 2: check on you right now. Thank you very much. I'll

2512
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 2: love our people webscream congrats again on your beautiful son.

2513
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:40,920
Speaker 2: He continues to grow. Look, we've just got a weird

2514
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:45,839
Speaker 2: group of I want to say followers, but Luke.

2515
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:48,360
Speaker 1: We're on this journey with them accolytes.

2516
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you know. Can we run up that meme

2517
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 2: of me doing Heaven's Gate? I mean, did you ever

2518
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 2: see that picture they made of me, Luke.

2519
01:58:56,840 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 1: With like the gear on that they wore with like

2520
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:00,040
Speaker 1: the nikes.

2521
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah yeah in the track we are we

2522
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:07,200
Speaker 2: are brainwashing a new generation. It is mk Ultra. Thank

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01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:09,080
Speaker 2: you to our team. Remember to go to our merch

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Speaker 2: Great merch, hats, mugs, all that great shit. Okay, thirty

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01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 2: days free of Showtime please the label that pays us.

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01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:28,480
Speaker 2: Just a heads up, folks, we're gonna be filming some

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01:59:28,600 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 2: really fun stuff over the next few weeks. We won't stop. Okay,

2530
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:34,280
Speaker 2: can't stop, won't stop. So support us here at showtime.

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Speaker 2: Get your thirty days free boxing belatour all that and

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01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:40,720
Speaker 2: then some Luke, we're coming on again. Okay, Well that's

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01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 2: the thing. We don't stop, Luke. We don't rest on

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01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:46,680
Speaker 2: our laurels at all. I don't even know what laurels are.

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Speaker 1: Bro. Let's see about this. So as you mentioned all

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01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:53,520
Speaker 1: the stuff there Morningcombat at gmail dot com for Friday's

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01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:56,680
Speaker 1: dead wrong, we'll have some more content coming for you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I got a little video coming your way.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we got big interviews. Should we say the names

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Speaker 2: are Wait, we should wait.

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Speaker 1: Let's wait, let's wait, let's wait, let's wait because we

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02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:05,200
Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna happen, because you know how

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02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:07,840
Speaker 1: it goes, so let's just see how it goes. But

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02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:09,760
Speaker 1: then you're right, we have some of that coming as well.

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02:00:09,880 --> 02:00:11,880
Speaker 1: So we got some fun stuff headed your way. You

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02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 1: can follow us on social there and that's it. BC.

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Speaker 1: I still have a fire. I have to put out,

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Speaker 1: so I probably.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, any of you haters that think we've peaked, we haven't.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to be we haven't said anything about it,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna be probably in studio, not this weekend

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02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:27,880
Speaker 1: but the following, so we got some stuff coming your

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Speaker 1: way for that as well. Fun fun shows, all right,

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Speaker 1: BC for Brian Campbell, for Malka, for CBS Sports for Showtime.

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you guys so much for watching

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Speaker 1: more content coming your way tomorrow and then of course

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Speaker 1: on Friday. Until then, may all of your gains be

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Speaker 1: loyal