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Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick

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Speaker 1: Shot screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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Speaker 1: and Micky Spagnola. And just like any good team, whenever

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Speaker 1: he comes down to playoff time, you have to be

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Speaker 1: to call to the bench, called to the bullpen, and

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Speaker 1: come in hot. And that is exactly what Mick Shots

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Speaker 1: is doing today. I am not Bill Jones sitting in

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Speaker 1: for the legend himself. I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad to be

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Speaker 1: alongside Everson Walls. We've got Mickey Spagnola on the phone,

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Speaker 1: and if you're watching us live, you won't see Mickey,

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Speaker 1: but we guarantee Mickey is here and he is present

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Speaker 1: as we bring you a Tuesday edition of Mix Shots.

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Speaker 1: How's everybody doing ever? Since? You're doing all right? Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing just fine. I gotta say you built yourself

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Speaker 1: up pretty well. Then you kind of raise the bar.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you, how well you do? We'll see

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Speaker 1: how I can fit in of course, I'm across Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com, but glad to make my mix Shots appearance.

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Speaker 1: You're wearing your victory white as the cowboys you're hiding.

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Speaker 1: They're white out this way outside too. It went well

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Speaker 1: with the with the weather. Oh good, good, absolutely, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? Can you hear us? All right?

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Speaker 1: I've got you loud and clear and ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Now you've you've had an interesting day so far getting

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Speaker 1: set for this show. We were just talking about it

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Speaker 1: a little bit off the air, but you're your journey

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Speaker 1: to be on mix Shots today was not your favorite thing, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It probably started it around quarters of eleven and ended

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Speaker 1: at about one o'clock trying to figure out why the

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Speaker 1: video from the uh app we used to get video

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Speaker 1: all the way to broken up video, which was better

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Speaker 1: than the color bars that we were dealing with, but

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Speaker 1: didn't quite get there. So, yeah, no one gets to

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Speaker 1: see my beautiful face today. Yeah, that's unfortunate. That's a

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Speaker 1: loss for everybody involved. They at least get to hear

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Speaker 1: you say that. I mean, can we honestly say that

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Speaker 1: to a loss? You know? We miss you, but to

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Speaker 1: say a loss, that's uh, that's different. That's a little

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Speaker 1: bit too far. But Chris beam in the back, he

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Speaker 1: was he was trying to get it all set up,

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Speaker 1: and I walked in. He goes look at Mickey and

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Speaker 1: he just pointed up to the screen and it just

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Speaker 1: looks like a bunch of colors put together. It actually

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Speaker 1: looked like a painting. And Chris came up with, am

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Speaker 1: not gonna see it first? Oh, we gotta know what

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Speaker 1: it looked like. It looked like that commercial when the

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Speaker 1: lady's face broke up. I'm not a bad aunt. The

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Speaker 1: is that an a T and T commercial? I think?

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, here we go. I got it,

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Speaker 1: I hope. So okay, yeah, there it is on Everson's

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Speaker 1: camera here. That guys, what do we call that now, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: you can go ahead. Is the Macasso? That is the Micasso? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what happens when you have a droid phone as

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Speaker 1: opposed to the beautiful iPhone that we're dealing with right here. Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is what rod commercial. I'll tell you what. I'd

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Speaker 1: rather get paid by one that works. Okay, I'd rather

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Speaker 1: get paid by one that works. Thank you. Sir very much,

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Speaker 1: Thank you Chris for that. This is this is better.

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Speaker 1: You better check the sponsor list for the Cowboys before

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Speaker 1: you start throwing that. Yeah, that's true, that's true. We

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Speaker 1: need to we gotta be careful about It's okay. I

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Speaker 1: think you're fine. I think you're fine. But the micasso

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Speaker 1: was what we were we were greeted with today. But Mickey,

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Speaker 1: any anything stand out to you? Jerry Jones was on

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Speaker 1: the fan earlier today kind of talking about going into

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Speaker 1: guys talked about a death yesterday, But anything stick out

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Speaker 1: to you? And what Jerry said, Mick, Well, he said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I thought he started off basically pointing out that,

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Speaker 1: Like the game on Saturday night had nothing to do

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Speaker 1: And you know he's exactly right, there's there's no cream

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Speaker 1: laughing at you, your Humphrey Bogart era of of of

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Speaker 1: of language here. Yeah, I can see the headlines now.

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spatt says the Houston Texans are puff. Well, you

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Speaker 1: know what, they got one coming because a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago, when they were in the playoffs and the

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Speaker 1: You know what, if you're in the playoffs every year,

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Speaker 1: then go at it, right, but let's not get in

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Speaker 1: to get on how the Cowboys are in Unison in

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Speaker 1: regards to the message. Uh, sometimes Jerry can go off

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Speaker 1: maybe you shouldn't have said that, you know, bulletin board

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Speaker 1: like you said that, there are no cream puffs spags,

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Speaker 1: but you do you did have a team that just

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Speaker 1: predict anything. I'm not taking any team or win for granted.

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys looked at it. The Cowboys looked at it

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Speaker 1: They broke a few records, said a couple of personal records.

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Speaker 1: And let me go further. I saw Church coming in here, Spags,

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Speaker 1: Drut Cowboys. I'm gonna go work. So they take that

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Speaker 1: Nobody says Tampa better lookout. Yeah, you know, they played

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Speaker 1: check this what Schultz's final numbers were. I've got him

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Speaker 1: And so it works both ways. And I know this

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Speaker 1: Were you talking about Scholtz, I mean, were you not

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Speaker 1: looking at Deebo Samuel to start with, right, I think

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Speaker 1: it starts there. It's probably the second next guy and

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Speaker 1: maybe the third next guy. He was phenomenal coming out

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Speaker 1: of South Carolina, right. I saw enough of him beating

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Speaker 1: up on Missouri for three years or however many years

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Speaker 1: he was there. They just couldn't stop him, and I

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Speaker 1: wanted the Cowboys to be able to get him. So

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Speaker 1: this was before they got Cedee Lamb, and I think

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Speaker 1: he went the second round maybe that year, and it

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Speaker 1: was like, ah, he's gone, but check this out. So

433
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Speaker 1: he's their second leading rusher fifty nine carries for three

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five yards and eight touchdowns, and as

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Speaker 1: a receiver he leads with seventy seven catches one thousand,

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Speaker 1: four hundred and five yards and six more touchdowns. So

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Speaker 1: if you add that together his yardage from the line

438
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage one thousand and seven hundred and seventy yards

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Speaker 1: and fourteen touchdowns, they better know where he is every

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Speaker 1: time they line up defensively because if you go back

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Speaker 1: and watch the Rams game, he linds up wide at

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, he lines up at in the slot, he

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Speaker 1: lines up at running back, and they will hand him

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Speaker 1: the ball. They try to do everything they can to

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Speaker 1: get the ball in his hands, and once he gets it,

446
00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: he is a load. He's a little bit thicker, maybe

447
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Speaker 1: stronger Cede Lamb, but the same type of is a

448
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Speaker 1: way thicker and stronger than Lamb. Yes, but it's the

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Speaker 1: same type of it's the same type of guy makes

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Speaker 1: great catches and once he gets in the in the

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Speaker 1: open field, you're in trouble because he's gonna break your ankle.

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Speaker 1: And he's a strong, strong runner. You could tell he's

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Speaker 1: got some running back in his background spags. But also

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Speaker 1: I think I heard this morning, Uh he's only second

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Speaker 1: behind Chase if I'm mistaken. With the Bengals and yards

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Speaker 1: per catch, I think he's up in the seventeen point

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Speaker 1: something yard average. And so he's gonna beat you short

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna have the yak and he can go

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Speaker 1: deep on you as well. So yeah, he's somebody that

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Speaker 1: if you can just eliminate him, then you're going to

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Speaker 1: improve your chances of winning the game exponentially. He's not

462
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Speaker 1: only their most dangerous threat at wide receiver, he's not

463
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Speaker 1: only now their most dangerous thread at running back, but

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Speaker 1: he also threw a touchdown pass in the final game

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Speaker 1: of the regular season as against the Los Angeles ram

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Speaker 1: So he can do a little bit of everything. So, Mick,

467
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Speaker 1: when when you're talking about this guy, you have to

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Speaker 1: know where he is at all times. San Francisco Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: they're going to run all this motion. They're gonna run

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Speaker 1: all this eyewash up in front, try and confuse the defense,

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Speaker 1: and Deebo Samuel for the most part, him and Brandon

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Speaker 1: i Yuk another very shifty, speedy wide receiver on the outside. Balls. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: both of those guys are going to be tough matchups,

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Speaker 1: just based off of the speed that they have and

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Speaker 1: a lot of times they're already they're already running. They

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Speaker 1: already have that momentum because of the motion and what

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Speaker 1: they're able to do prior to the snap. And then

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Speaker 1: not only that, but they want to run the football right.

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Speaker 1: They they look at it that we are going to

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Speaker 1: run right at you, and they do it with a

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Speaker 1: lot of two tight ends. But you know, the other

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Speaker 1: thing they use. How about this, they use a fullback right, wow,

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Speaker 1: Yes it is Mick. He had it. And they will

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Speaker 1: line him up in a true fullback. They'll line him

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Speaker 1: up off the line of scrimmage to either the left

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Speaker 1: or the right, behind the kind of offset from the

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle. And he's a load and they use him.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, he's caught thirty passes. You know he

489
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Speaker 1: rhymes me. Uh. Ever said you remember Rathman, the fullback

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Speaker 1: the Niners. Yes, I do, Yes, I do. That type

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Speaker 1: of guy, right, he will. He will go through a

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Speaker 1: brick wall for you. But that's when that's when fullbacks

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Speaker 1: were the norm in an offense. Yes, he was just another,

494
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Speaker 1: just another fullback out there who was hardheaded and very determined.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I should have said Daryl Johnston too. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: guess you could have. That's very true. But but when

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Speaker 1: they run the ball and he's a load going into

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Speaker 1: the middle. And by the way, I don't mean as

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Speaker 1: I think about it, Darille Johnson, I don't think he

500
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Speaker 1: had ten catches his entire career. Oh no, he did.

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Speaker 1: Oh he may have had fifteen. Okay, I'm sorry. Now

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Speaker 1: you got Kyle looking at this up now, you go ahead,

503
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Speaker 1: masty little book. Nineteen ninety four, Daryl Johnson had forty

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Speaker 1: four catches. Wow, Troy must have been on a lot

505
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Speaker 1: of pressure that year. He had fifty ninety three. That's

506
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Speaker 1: when he missed all his blocks and then de Troy

507
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: had no choice but to throw. You want to know

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Speaker 1: what's funny about that, though, Mickey, is the fifty catches.

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Speaker 1: Out of those fifty catches, there wasn't a single catch

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Speaker 1: for a first down. They were all undertake. I told

511
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Speaker 1: you he blew his blocking a sigmon, and Troy's like, hey,

512
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Speaker 1: your man is hanging off of me. Take this thing.

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Speaker 1: He had. He averaged seven point four yards of Come on, yeah, yeah, yeah,

514
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: that's about it. That's funny. Whatever happened to the fullback man,

515
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Speaker 1: I mean bringing back there's probably what two or thrifts

516
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Speaker 1: that college offense. Ye, college happened to the fullbacks and

517
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 1: they got rid of them, and they basically got rid

518
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Speaker 1: of the tight end. Uh, And all of a sudden,

519
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: it's four and five wide receivers out there. Can't you

520
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: can't get rid of that tight end. Though. That tight

521
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Speaker 1: end is a stubborn creature, and I'm glad of that

522
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Speaker 1: because you right now, the tight ends, to me are

523
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Speaker 1: the most impressive players on most professional football teams. I

524
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: mean they are the studs of the squad. You look

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Speaker 1: at Andrews from from the Ravens, I mean that guy

526
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Speaker 1: right there. You look at the guy from the Pittsburgh Steelers,

527
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Speaker 1: and not only do you have one, you've always got backup.

528
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Speaker 1: It looks just like him. So you know that's I

529
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Speaker 1: love it. They've got big studs at tight end, and

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Speaker 1: I hope they never go away. Well you know what

531
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Speaker 1: if we and I don't mean to swerve off to

532
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Speaker 1: the side of the road, but the tight ends last

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00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: night in that National Championship game, they had a big

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Speaker 1: hand in what went on. Yeah, and I And when

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Speaker 1: I was watching that, I was going to ask Everson,

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Speaker 1: It's like, so kind of teams normally cover the tight

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Speaker 1: end because these days those types of tight ends they

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Speaker 1: can't the running backs can't, I mean, the linebackers can't

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Speaker 1: run with them. Well, I would call the matchup that

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00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: we always had with tight ends was our strong safeties.

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Speaker 1: And now you're talking to Tom lad your defense, Uh

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Speaker 1: even you're even doing it with when I went to

543
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Speaker 1: the Giants with Belichick, no your strong safety is gonna

544
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: handle that tight end. But let's just be real. We

545
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: always made the tight end have to work his way

546
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Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage. Nowadays they just don't do

547
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: that necessarily, you know. I remember Dexter clean Scale, Charlie Waters.

548
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Speaker 1: Uh god, I remember some great strong safeties that we had,

549
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: Myron Guyton, Kenneth Jackson in New York. These guys had

550
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Speaker 1: to match up with not just tight ends. We had

551
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Speaker 1: strong safeties then Dvin Woodson, who could match up with

552
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: wide receivers and running backs as well. So I don't

553
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: know what's going on with the strong safeties these days,

554
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: but that's the way it was back then. Probably no

555
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: one wants to be a strong safety. They don't want

556
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Speaker 1: to have that type of assignment to deal with. And

557
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: that's where a guy, I guess, on the Cowboys side,

558
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: I know what we do want to talk about that

559
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: that National Championship game last night, But on the Cowboys side,

560
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: that's where having a guy like Jaron Curse helps out

561
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: because he's a bigger bodied safety who has the coverage ability,

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Speaker 1: has the physicality to be able to cover guys watching

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Speaker 1: as well. I'm sorry Wilson as well, Yeah, both of

564
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Speaker 1: those guys very athletic. But when we talk about jay

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Speaker 1: Ron Curves, very special. I don't know what Minnesota was

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Speaker 1: doing when they got rid of him, but you're looking

567
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Speaker 1: at a guy. I mean that's He's one of the

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Speaker 1: best hybrid players that you can kind of put your

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Speaker 1: finger on right now. He's like a Tyler Matthew type

570
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: of guy. We don't use him necessarily like they would

571
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Speaker 1: use Matthews, but he has that ability and he has

572
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Speaker 1: made an extreme impact on this team. I would imagine

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Speaker 1: he's probably top five in tackles on this team by four.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, he's number one. Wow. Yeah, that's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: By the way, since you guys brought it up, we

576
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Speaker 1: got a kind of an injury COVID update yesterday after

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Speaker 1: our show obviously, and uh, you know, like everybody was

578
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Speaker 1: coming back off COVID by Wednesday, and I think Jayron

579
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Speaker 1: Curse might be the last one. I think Jerry and

580
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Speaker 1: Mike said they are hoping to have him back by Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Not only was he on COVID, but I think he

582
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Speaker 1: And so they're hoping to have him back by Thursday,

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Speaker 1: But the other COVID guys, Anthony Brown came off the

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Speaker 1: with the exception of Jayron Curve. So your guys are

588
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Speaker 1: exactly right. And you know, and he owes dan Quinn

589
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637
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Speaker 1: players for outstanding community service activities off the field and

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Speaker 1: excellence on the field. Help Dak earned twenty five thousand

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Speaker 1: followed by Prescott through January seventeenth. Vote Dak. When is

644
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: the announcement? Usually that's right around Super Bowl week, isn't it,

645
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: Mick When they announced Walter Peyton Man of the Year.

646
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: They do it that Saturday before the Super Bowl when

647
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Speaker 1: they have the big show. Oh, the big honor show show.

648
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: I was kind of I was at that show, but

649
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: I was kind of listless. I just failed miserably in

650
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: making the hall of face me to the Honors telling us, Hey,

651
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: we gotta get ready. You know, you gotta go to

652
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: the honor show. I'm like, man, you can't want it anymore. Yeah,

653
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: we're a little pissed up here. We went to the show.

654
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: We all our lips were hanging in our laps. We

655
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: would pissed. Man. So that that list of the running

656
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Speaker 1: backs with tight ends, yeah, I mean touchdowns, I'm sorry.

657
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: Where was Dan Reeves? Oh? So we were talking in

658
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Speaker 1: the break and we were talking about most receiving touchdowns

659
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Speaker 1: for a running back and a fullback for those of

660
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: you listening, and we were talking about how actually Daryl

661
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Speaker 1: Johnston and Dan Reeves had the most. Dan Reeves had seventeen,

662
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: Darryl Johnston had fourteen. Who did you ask about? You

663
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: ask about Reeves? Just now? No? Yeah, So so I

664
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Speaker 1: looked because I thought I remembered this after looking at

665
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Speaker 1: his stats after he passed away last week, and in

666
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: his first three years he had fifteen touchdown receptions until

667
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: he tore up his knee. Wow, so that's just in

668
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: three years. Three years. Yeah, Tom Landry always had certain

669
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Speaker 1: players that he wanted to be in certain pos positions.

670
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: He would draw a place for players. I don't know

671
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Speaker 1: if that was an ego thing for him to where

672
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Speaker 1: it's like, well, I'm picking you because I think only

673
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Speaker 1: you can do this when clearly everyone else could have

674
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: done it could have probably done. But but you know,

675
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Speaker 1: player coaches have their favorites, and Tom land You always

676
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: had a certain type of player for a certain type

677
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: of play in a certain situation, and that was pretty

678
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: consistent throughout his entire coaching career. You know what, that

679
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: sounds a lot like what's that Dan Quinn? On the

680
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: defensive side of things with Michael Parsons in company, I

681
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: think That's a great transition because that's what dan Quinn

682
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: has done all year along, right, Nick, Yeah, No, he

683
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: has figured out roles for guys that he could sit

684
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Speaker 1: them into what he's doing. Instead of saying, this is

685
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Speaker 1: what I do, now, let me see who can do that. No,

686
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: he looked and saw what guys could do and said, okay,

687
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that. And that's what he did

688
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: with jay Ron Curse, That's what he did with Michael Parsons.

689
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: That's what he did with Layton Vanderesh. Yeah, and all

690
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: the players that he brought over from the Falcons as well.

691
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Speaker 1: The seat Yeah. Absolutely. And by the way, speaking of fullbacks,

692
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Speaker 1: when's the last time you saw three hundred and sixty

693
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Speaker 1: pounder line up at fullback like he did last night?

694
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Speaker 1: I'm the goal line other than Connor McGovern, I guess

695
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: Connor's not even three sixty. Then nobody got pushing the

696
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Speaker 1: one guy last night on Georgia. They said he lost

697
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Speaker 1: forty pounds, he was still sixty and he ran a

698
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Speaker 1: four sixty pounds. I'm like, man, I told my son,

699
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: this guy runs faster than I ever ran and he's

700
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Speaker 1: three sixty. That was unbelievable. Talking about the Georgia Bulldogs.

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Speaker 1: Number ninety five kind of reminds me of Lakwan McGowan.

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00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: You remember that name at all? Probably not. He was

703
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,479
Speaker 1: the Baylor tight end during like the Art Briles runs

704
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Speaker 1: where he was three eighty and he played tight end

705
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Speaker 1: at three eighty were number eighty and everything. I remember him.

706
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Speaker 1: He had a touchdown to Coton ball Michigan h where now,

707
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Speaker 1: Oh I don't even know. Yeah, no idea, Hopefully it's okay.

708
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: He was a legend and they put two of their

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Speaker 1: guys on their goal line offense. What is fullback of?

710
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: What is sight in? And guess where the guy ran

711
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: right between the Yeah, that was a fun game, Church

712
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Speaker 1: coming out on top of LL tell you, I tell

713
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Speaker 1: this bad right? No, I got it right. You guys

714
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: were piggybacking, okay, Alabama? Yeah first, yes, exactly, So all right,

715
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: nicky real quickly give us an update on what you've

716
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: heard abround the offensive and defensive coordinators Dan Quinn Kellen Moore,

717
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: both of which I feel like every time I opened

718
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: up my phone, I get a notification that a team

719
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Speaker 1: is requesting to interview one of those two guys. What

720
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: have you heard the latest well, I think the latest

721
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: was Denver. Right, Miami just got on the phone. Miami

722
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: just did it too for both of them, Right, dan

723
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: Quinn for Miami is all I see. I could see

724
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: dan Quinn a pretty good fit in Denver. I just

725
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: think that. But again, so these guys want to interview him, Right,

726
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: But if I'm dan Quinn and I know what I

727
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: went through as a head coach, I'm gonna be pretty

728
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Speaker 1: picky on the situation I get myself into the second time,

729
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: all right, you know. And I think Mike McCarthy probably

730
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: was the same way. Yeah, you know, I'm I'm gonna

731
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: get into a situation where there's a good general manager,

732
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Speaker 1: the ownership is strong, and it's a it's a good organization.

733
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Speaker 1: I think those are the things that you don't just

734
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Speaker 1: go to go right. You better pick someplace where you

735
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: fit in awfully well. And Kyle we We I talked

736
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Speaker 1: about this. I believe it was last week when we

737
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Speaker 1: talked about Sean Payton when he had an interview with

738
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Speaker 1: the Raiders and he just didn't feel comfortable in two

739
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: thousand and five taking that job. I think he was

740
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: a little iffy on the quarterback situation. And you know,

741
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: you had to be a certain person to go in

742
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: there with Al Davis. Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah,

743
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: when you talk to Al, that's a whole different field. Yeah, exactly.

744
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: And so he feel like you're being threatened doing the interview. Yeah,

745
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: and he turned the job down, and everybody's like, oh,

746
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: you can't turn Al Davis down. You're you're committing you know,

747
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: professional suicide. And then the next year he took the

748
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: Saints job. In the rest is history. So I think

749
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Speaker 1: if you're you know, especially if you're getting the second chance,

750
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: you just don't take anything. I think I'd be pretty

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00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: particular and where I went and who I worked with,

752
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: and I would darn sure make sure that either I

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback or I've got a high draft choice

754
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: to get one. Now, he was he was in a

755
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: great place with Atlanta, you know, I mean, the ideal

756
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: situation for him, quarterback situation. He had a defense that

757
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: he could walk around, just like he's doing with the

758
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys right now. Obviously he went to the Super Bowl away,

759
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: we remember what happened there, But that was a great

760
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: situation for him there. He's obviously he's very cagy about

761
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: the choices that he makes and he won't do anything

762
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: foolish at all. He's too old for that. Number one,

763
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: it's too accomplished. And it also, Yeah, he had a

764
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: great quote yesterday about you know, I like what I'm

765
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: doing here and I'm trying to remember how he put it,

766
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: and he goes, I'm damn sure going to do this

767
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: or that it was. It was. It was pretty good

768
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Speaker 1: response to uh doing interviews, because he sounds like he

769
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: would prefer, you know, if he's gonna do him or

770
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: if he's gonna let it out that he's doing him,

771
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: that he wants to do it at the end of

772
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: the season, not in the middle of his playoff run.

773
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: And maybe Kelly Moore is not in that same scenario.

774
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not in the same position. Kellen may take

775
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: these interviews here. He already took the Jacksonville interview, and

776
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: because he is the younger guy has not been at

777
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: head coach previously, he needs to get every avenue that

778
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: he could be in order to be that head coach.

779
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: But how much of a distraction is before we wrap

780
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: things up, how much of a distraction could that be?

781
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: Mickey for a locker room like this, because Dan Quinn

782
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: is making a stand saying I don't want to do

783
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: this until after the playoff run is over, whereas Kelln

784
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: Moore has already taken an interview and is probably thinking

785
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: about a couple of these other spots as well. Yeah,

786
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: And I think as long as you're doing virtually, uh

787
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, at some point at night, you're done working

788
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: right good point and it's like or you know, the

789
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: night before a game, when everything's settled. I don't think

790
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: that affects these guys. Just schedule it out. It's just

791
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: schedule it out. Yeah, I mean, it's not like you're

792
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: flying somewhere to go beat people. And you also have

793
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: to understand these teams are going to interview ten people

794
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: for the job, right, They're not going to just interview

795
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: one or two and then make a decision. Uh. You know,

796
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: it's like what the Cowboys did with my well no,

797
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: when they hired when they hired, when they hired Wade Phillips.

798
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: They must be interviewed ten different guys. There you go.

799
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: And a lot of that what Jerry was doing was

800
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: picking other people's mind about his situation, his roster. He

801
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: wanted to see what they thought of what he had

802
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: and maybe where they were going right and so, and

803
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: remember this was after Bill Parcels finally got him to

804
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: two consecutive winning seasons for the first time. Well, it

805
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: would have been they had winning seasons in five o

806
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: six they were both nine and seven, right, So you

807
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: would have to go back to ninety five ninety six

808
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: for the last time they had consecutive winning seasons because

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00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: they had a losing season in ninety seven, they had

810
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: a winning season in ninety eight they were five hundred

811
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Speaker 1: and ninety nine, and then the three in a row

812
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: five and eleven seasons, a winning season, a losing season,

813
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: and then those two winning seasons. So yeah, I think

814
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: I'll put that on my mind. Spects tried to block

815
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: that one out, block it away. Well, I'm glad to

816
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: hear that. I'm glad to hear that. You guys don't

817
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: think it's that big of a deal, because a lot

818
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: of Cowboys fans are a little up in arms, and

819
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: I think it's because they're they're safeguarding what they see

820
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: as a great situation with Dan Quinn as the defensive coordinator,

821
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: Kelly Moore as the OC. I think at some point

822
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: you got to look at it and say you're in

823
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: a great spot to be in because they've been so successful.

824
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: Because they're so so I don't finish it out. They're

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00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: gonna finish it out. I think that's either way. Isn't

826
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: worried about it. They're gonna finish the season. Yeah, they're

827
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: not gonna like to like, college's not gonna go away

828
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: because we got not gonna pull a Lincoln Riley before

829
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: the al that's not happening. We're gonna stay intact until

830
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: this thing is done. Yeah, So that's good, you know,

831
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Speaker 1: And I thought Jerry put it a good way. He said,

832
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: he said, you know, when he goes, you know, he said,

833
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: rest assured, he goes when you're sat successful. And he

834
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: was talking about how the NFL is kind of Bill.

835
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: He said, when you're successful, it works to the team

836
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: that aren't successful meeting, they're going to come to the

837
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: team that is successful and try to hire somebody and

838
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: he goes. And then on the other hand, when you're unsuccessful,

839
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: it works that the team's advantage to be able to

840
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: take advantage of the teams that are successful, and y'all,

841
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: and that's kind of how the schedule goes, right, you know,

842
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: that's how it works out. Gotta take advantage whenever you

843
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: have that window of opportunity. But that's it for us

844
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Speaker 1: here on Mick Shots Today. Mickey, are you back tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: I maybe back tomorrow and appreciate you. Or I don't

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Speaker 1: think I'm back tomorrow. I haven't been told I'm back.

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Speaker 1: I believe Bill will be here Tomorrow's But yeah for

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Speaker 1: Everson Walls for Mickey's back, Nola for Chris Beam, I'm

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's filling in for Bill Jones. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow on a new edition of Mick Shots, Gold, Cowboys

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Speaker 1: and Kyle. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.