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Mike Silver, NFL Insider inside 18 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: scoop on wild NFL free agency period, and Baker's trade demand. 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: But first, my top takes of the week. So let's 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: start with this. I have gone over this two or 21 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: three times on my national radio and TV shows. Days 22 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 1: are very long. You sleep seven I sleep seven hours 23 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: a day. I work out for an hour, I eat 24 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: for an hour. I hang out with my wife, I read, 25 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: I listen to music, I take naps, and that's about 26 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: eighteen and a half hours. I've got seven left. And 27 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: I had said this with Tom Brady. He's going to 28 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: hang out with his kids. But if your kids have 29 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: a life, they don't want to hang out with their 30 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: mid forty year old dad all the time. I got kids. 31 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: My daughter's twenty one, she lives, you know, in Hollywood. Honey, 32 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: you want to go for lunch. She's got like seven options. 33 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: She didn't even call me back half the time. She shouldn't. 34 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: She has a life. My son, he's got friends. You know, 35 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: once kids get to thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old, 36 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: it's not that they don't love dad. They got options. 37 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: And Gizelle is in some stay at home mom. She's 38 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: a supermodel with a eight nine figure annual income. She's 39 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: plenty busy. So my takeaway on Brady was he's usually 40 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: he has, you know, his convictions, but I predicted after 41 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: the season ended. He was very ambiguous. I thought there 42 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: was a chance he retired, and then when he retired, 43 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: I thought, I'll take him in his word, but I 44 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: think there's a chance he comes back. It's a small chance. 45 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: And I think Tom has never really given himself six 46 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: weeks off. I mean, really cleared his head, go on 47 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: a vacation, don't take a football, no playbook. He'd never 48 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: done that in the last twenty years. And I think 49 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 1: Tom said, all right, I'm going to have a couple 50 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: of beers, eat some cheesecake, give myself six weeks with 51 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: the family, and came to the conclusion because he still 52 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: has his health and he's still an MVP level quarterback. 53 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: This year, he came to the conclusion that I'm really 54 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: good at football. There's a lot of hours in these days. 55 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fill it playing football. My kids are more grown, 56 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: my wife's busy. We're gonna do backgammon with neighbors. That's 57 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: not Tom. Tom is an aspirational guy. I talk about this. 58 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm certainly not anything like a superstar athlete. I talked 59 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: to my wife all the time about this. If you're 60 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: compensated at a very high level, and you're doing something 61 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: you really love and you're pretty good at it. What 62 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: are you quitting to I understand people who work in 63 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: factories or have to lift things for a living, or 64 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: are in dangerous jobs firemen, police officers, hey man, get 65 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: out take the pension. Totally understand it. But glamour jobs 66 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: right like musicians, athletes, actors, jobs that are in entertainment 67 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: or news. There's a reason these reporters and these artists 68 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: are still traveling. Yeah, believe it or not. Ario Speedwagon 69 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: performed this weekend. Why they were paid a lot. It's 70 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: fun playing music and being adored by fans. I get it. 71 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady gave it six seven, eight weeks. He'd never 72 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: done that before, and he came to the conclusion that 73 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 1: a lot of really willful aspirational people do. I'm bored. 74 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Tom is mister gold setter, mister achievement. It 75 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: is hard to go from zero to sixty for twenty 76 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: years and then back to zero and again. I think 77 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of professional careers that you know. I 78 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: had a friend years ago who was an oncologist, you know, 79 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: a cancer doctor twenty five years psychologically, he was beat up. 80 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: He was done. He was tired. He'd seen death for 81 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: two and a half decades. It was time. That's different 82 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: than football. And Tom's done a remarkable job to stay 83 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: engaged with the younger teammates. And let's be honest about this. 84 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: He was good this year and his only loss at 85 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: the end of the year was to the Rams, who 86 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. The loser in this, my first thought, 87 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: the loser in this is Aaron Rodgers because all these 88 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: teams are getting better, all these acquisitions, and what did 89 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: Green Bay do this offseason? Just pay Aaron Rodgers more. 90 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: That's how they improved. They paid Aaron Rodgers more. So 91 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: when Tom retired, one of the things I think I 92 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: said on the podcast, I definitely said it before the 93 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: end of the season. I said, man, I'd have a 94 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: hard time retiring if I was Tom. Look at the NFC, 95 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: and this was before Russell Wilson left. But Trey Lance, 96 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: we don't know if it's going to work. Matt Stafford McVeagh, 97 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: can they repeat, I mean DAK Cowboys or Marie Cooper's gone. 98 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Dak's never been good without Amari. The NFC is wide open. 99 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: To me, Rams are the best teams. Tom's back with 100 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: Tampa second best roster. San Francisco, if Trey Lance can play, 101 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: is probably my third pick. And then Green Bay kind 102 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: of falls in that. Dallas, Arizona good enough to beat anybody, 103 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: not good enough to dominate top teams. So the winner 104 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: in this Fox TV gets a great quarterback in the NFC, 105 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: the winner all football fans. The loser, you know, potentially McVay, 106 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, Aaron Rodgers. But the roadblocks are few and 107 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: far between in the NFC. The bottom of it right 108 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: now is a mess. I was talking to a friend 109 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: about this, he's a New Yorker, and I said, this 110 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: league's getting like NBA top heavy. I said, name the 111 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: twelve best players between the Jets, Giants, Chargers, Rams. New 112 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: York had none of them, None of them. The Giants 113 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: are awful, The Jets are awful. And I said, you 114 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: start looking at the bottom of the NFC right now. 115 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: Giants are awful, Philadelphia is not very good. Winston Washington 116 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: should be better, but there are limitations. Atlanta, no Saints, 117 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: no Carolina unless they land to Shaun Watson kind of 118 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: a mess. Arizona fascinating, but Cliff Kingsbury yet to win 119 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: a big playoff game, a lot of drama this offseason. 120 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, we don't know. Seattle doesn't have a quarterback now. 121 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: The bottom of the NFC is large, the bottom of 122 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: the AFC is like Houston the Jets. That's it. So 123 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: just feels good. A little bit of a surprise, not 124 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: a shock. And I'll say it again, the days are long, 125 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady figured out after about sixty eight weeks, might 126 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: as well fill them with something I get great enjoyment from. 127 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: And I'm really good at throwing a football. In the NFL. 128 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: The Packers have moved Davante Adams to the Raiders for 129 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: draft picks. What do you think Aaron Rodgers is thinking? Well, 130 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: good question, and I don't know. As I've said many times, 131 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: I never try to get into Aaron Rodgers head. It's murky. 132 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: But I'll say this. When Dak Prescott signed that contract 133 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: and a contract for a B plus quarterback, you will 134 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: pay a price. You can kick that ship down the road. 135 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: You'll pay a price. You're seeing it now. Cedric Wilson gone, 136 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper gone right tackle, while Collins gone. Aaron Rodgers, Oh, 137 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: he got all that guaranteed money. He got fifty million 138 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: a year. He's still a thirteen and a half percent 139 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: cap hit. Don't win super Bowls in this league if 140 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: your quarterbacks over a twelve percent cap hit. Unless you're 141 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Aaron's not Tom Brady, you pay a 142 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: quarterback fifty million, regardless of all the guarantees. This everything 143 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: in a salary cap league, even with star quarterbacks, is 144 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: a value proposition. If you want to be the highest 145 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: paid blank in the National Football League, eventually your franchise 146 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: will have to make cuts. Aaron has always been about Aaron. 147 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: He's not about winning. He'd like to win. It's more 148 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: fun to win. He has always put Aaron and money 149 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: ahead of everything else. All right, gonna bring him my buddy, 150 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: Mike Silver. He's going to have a big announcement in 151 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks. I'm not going to get 152 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: into it, but he knows what it is and I 153 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: know what it is, and it's very exciting if you 154 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Yeah, it's very exciting. So 155 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: here's the latest. The Packers are trading wide receiver Davante 156 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: Adams to the Raiders for two prime twenty twenty two picks. 157 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: So I want to throw this at you. You love 158 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. He's a cow guy. I get it. Whoa 159 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: first he said categorically false when I think it was 160 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: Diana Rossini came out and said he's gonna get fifty 161 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: million dollars a year to be the highest paid quarterback. 162 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: Well it wasn't. Yeah, yeah, report bad, Yeah, not categorically false. 163 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: Vaccine fuzzy, that fuzzy. Everybody talks about the guaranteed money 164 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. God, Yet next year he's still a thirteen 165 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: and a half percent cap hit, which in the last 166 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: fifteen years, you can't win a Super Bowl if you're 167 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: over twelve unless you're Tom Brady. So a thirteen percent 168 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: is still a big cap hit. So now they don't 169 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: have Davante Adams. He trusts no second receiver. I'm going 170 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: to play the cynic. It was always with Aaron about 171 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: getting the money. It's not about winning. Say what you 172 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: want about overly optimistic, some argue inauthentic Russell Wilson. He 173 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: wanted better coaching and better players. Say what you want 174 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: about Brady. It's about winning. He takes pay cuts. With Aaron, 175 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: this has always been about because, as I've said, Mike 176 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: He's not going to get the records and the Super 177 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: Bowls like Brady er Manning or Breeze his contemporaries, they're 178 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: going to fill the record book. He wants that passer 179 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: rating stat and he wants his money. And I look 180 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: at this and I think he DeVante had to tell 181 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: him privately, bro, I'm not franchise tagging, and he knew 182 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: there was a chance that Devanta wouldn't sign. So in 183 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: the end, there were better places to go if you 184 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: took a little less to win games. Am I being 185 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: too hard? Okay? So this is instant reaction. That's my caveat. 186 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: This is my instant reaction, and I'll obviously learn more 187 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: in the coming hours and days. My instant reaction is 188 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that Aaron Rodgers came back without believing 189 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: that DeVante Adams was going to be a part of it. 190 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: The deadline for him telling the Packers was before the 191 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: franchise tag deadline. That was Aaron's you know, I got 192 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: to tell them by then. He did tell them by that. 193 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: He actually told them three days earlier at David Bactieri's wedding. 194 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: At the reception, he said, I'm coming back, So I 195 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: can't believe that Aaron Rodgers came back believing that Davante 196 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: Adams was not going to be a part of it, 197 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: since that's literally the person he seems to value most. 198 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: And I've had long conversations with him about how much 199 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: he values Davante Adams as a teammate and as a 200 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: player and specific reasons why. And I also know that 201 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: this whole thing really started. Yeah there was a money thing, 202 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: but really this started, and Aaron has spoken about it 203 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: publicly by him thinking, you guys, don't involve me in 204 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: these conversations or the coaches for that matter. You just 205 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: as a packer front office, do what you do and 206 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: I hear about it later. And you also don't go 207 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: after it and load up with guys. I want to remember, 208 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, part of the healing process was they've been 209 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: including me, and you know they signed Randall Cobb, which 210 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: you know turned out to be a good thing for 211 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: Aaron the first half of the season, and that's all 212 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: been much much better. So one of two things has happened, 213 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: and I find them both hard to imagine, and so 214 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: I'll obviously be doing some reporting. But either a Aaron, 215 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: as you said, kind of knew Davante is not going 216 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: to play for the franchise tag they'll never pay him. 217 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: We've got cap issues, and I'm gonna just take this 218 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: Bundy and hope they put a good team around me. 219 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: And look, they got Tavandra Campbell back and that's cool, 220 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: but I might lose DeVante Adams. That's hard for me 221 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: to imagine that he did that or b Aaron came 222 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: back thinking it's so much better now not only are 223 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: they paying me, but they involved me in all these 224 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: decisions that they know that. Now they're tagging Davante and 225 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna find a way to make that contract work 226 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: because I need him. And then they still traded him. Now, 227 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: if that happens, boom, that's gonna make Baker and the 228 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: Browns look like Sesame Street. And you're going to see 229 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback who is an adult but is throwing an 230 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: adult tantrum. And I would argue rightfully. So, so one 231 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: of those two things seemingly happened. Now, maybe it's the 232 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: first one and there's a plan and Aaron was resigned 233 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: to it, and they're gonna go get some other receiver 234 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: that he loved somehow. But my, my, I don't think 235 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: this is what he came back for. So listening to that, 236 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: my takeaway is still Aaron cares about Aaron. That's really 237 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: what it's I said this the other day. Not all 238 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: actors are in it for the art or the oscars. 239 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: Some like the fame, the girls, and the money. I'm 240 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: not judging, but but Aaron Kent. It helps Aaron so 241 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: much to have his guy. So I still would argue 242 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: that even if I'm not even conceding that. But even 243 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: if that is the case, Aaron's not gonna have as 244 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: good a reality, the girls, the cars, whatever without that guy. 245 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: So and he has spoken publicly, you know, he has 246 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: said this is a big, big issue to me. I 247 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: want to be involved in these decision making processes. So 248 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: maybe they'll consult them during the draft and they'll use 249 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: those picks to draft someone that they are eyeballing, that 250 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: they think is gonna step in and immediately be as 251 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: good as Davante Adams. But you know, remember how DeSean 252 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: Watson was when they got rid of DeAndre Hopkins. He 253 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: didn't really enjoy that. That was the beginning of the 254 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: end with him. It would be understandable even without all 255 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: the history for Aaron Rodger is to be apoplectic if 256 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: they got rid of Davante Adams without him being part 257 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: of the plan, and if they didn't give it all 258 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: the recent history, he should retire today or you know, 259 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: force his way out today. So one of those two 260 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: things happened. I they're both very surprising to be scenarios, 261 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: and I guess we'll find out in due time what's 262 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: going up. Well, Davante is going to get a five 263 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: year deal from the Raiders. That's what I'm By the way, 264 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: great great move by Dave Ziggler and Josh McDaniels coming 265 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: in hot. I loved them training on Godway, getting Chandler Jones, 266 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: book ending them with Crosby. And now you're giving Derek Carr, 267 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: his college teammate and close friend, you know, the ultimate 268 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: security bank blanket. You're putting the you know, they've tried 269 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: so for so long to get a guy. Rugs obviously 270 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: turned out to be a you know, horrible this Mike 271 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: Darren Waller, Josh Jacobs, Hunter, Renfro, Derek Card, Davante Adams, 272 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: left tackle, Colton Miller. That's an elite offense, period, That 273 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: is an elite offense and you've got bookendge rushers who 274 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: are monsters. So the defense at the very least has that. 275 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: Now you're in a division with Mahomes, Russell and Herbert, 276 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: which is a you know, murderers row of Six Games 277 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: of Hell, and you know you've got to compete in there. 278 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: But man, that you gotta give Dave Zikle and Josh 279 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: McDaniels a lot of credit. You know, for years and 280 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: years I had a belief on what the league was 281 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: and because of rule changes, Mike, I really we had 282 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: lunch recently and I don't know if I mentioned this 283 00:18:52,160 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: among our many by the way covert discussions, covert, the 284 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: league has really become quarterback weapons pass rush league. Yeah, 285 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: it really has. I mean, you don't have to have 286 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: O Line Cincinnatio line men, linebacking cores in the Super 287 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: Bowl Rams Bengals. Weakness, safety doesn't matter. It's really quarterback 288 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: weapons because the three step drop back offense, you've got 289 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: to have nimble, twitchy athletes who can get to the 290 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: quarterback fast. You don't have to have a great offensive 291 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: line because you're not asking them to sustain blocks for 292 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: seven seconds anymore. And I look at this now, Green 293 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: Bay has an elite quarterback no longer has elite weapons, 294 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: and I would say I love Kenny Clark, but does 295 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: not have an elite pass rush. This doesn't feel like 296 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: a super Bowl team to meet Mike. You know, just 297 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: remember trades can be made. Right now, what I suspect 298 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: the Packers have decided. Again, I'm not sure if Aaron 299 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: is part of this, but I think what they've decided is, Man, 300 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: we've tried every cap trick in the book, and we 301 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, even though Aaron is only counting you know, 302 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: X against the cap, it's still a lot. We've tried 303 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: every trick of the book. We still care about these 304 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: other things. If we if we then pay Davante, we 305 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: don't think we can really do it. So I think 306 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: the play is we got to get some guys on 307 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: rookie contracts who are difference makers. So now they have picks, 308 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: they hopefully for them to have a receiver who can 309 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: step in the way Justin Jefferson did. Now that's that's aspirational. 310 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: If you get Justin Jefferson type, it's still not DeVante Adams, 311 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: and it still takes time with Aaron, but you can 312 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: you know that would be big. Well, that's That's that's 313 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: the key. Aaron with his own family has trust issues. 314 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: That's manifested itself in his football. He's not overly trusting. 315 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you watch that playoff game when that wide receive, 316 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: when that tight end drops a ball, I'm not going 317 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: back to the tight end. This is he trusts Randall 318 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: comp he trusts Aaron Jones. He trusted him on to 319 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: adds he's not a guy. This is this is you 320 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: always become as a quarterback, Mike, your personality. Same as 321 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: a talk show host. She becomes your personality. I mean Tom, 322 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: he's he's ingratiates himself with people. Tom's very good. He's 323 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: a people person. That's what he is as a quarterback. Um, 324 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, Stafford is a little loose. As we saw 325 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl parade. Can get can be a 326 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: little loose. He's a little loose as a quarterback. He's 327 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: kind of a go for it guy. He's a little loose. Uh, 328 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: that's his personality. Like you become your personality, So asking 329 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: Aaron too. Suddenly, let's say the Packers draft two receivers 330 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: with these picks. This is this is gonna be a 331 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: quick learning curve. And that's not Aaron's history. I guess 332 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: as my point, let me ask you this. So I 333 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: threw this out there. Stuff gets out when people wanted out. 334 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: The Brown's front office clearly was sending a message to the 335 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: the Baker and his agent were over you. We're done 336 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: with you. He won't go to the Colts. He and 337 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: Ballard are two different people. And also the knock on 338 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 1: Wentz was he wasn't always disciplined. Well that's the exact 339 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: knock on Baker. Baker's a less talented, a smaller version 340 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: of Wentz. So I don't think they'd pursue him. I 341 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: think they would outbid Cleveland for Jimmy Garoppolo. Am I wrong? Yeah? 342 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean I am on record as being a major 343 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: Jimmy fan obviously as a person, and I like him 344 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: a lot as a player. I just think you and 345 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: me both, by the way, we both like him more 346 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: than media people. Yeah. But here's the problem, and I 347 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: think about this. I had that little side deal with 348 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: the Washington then football team this last season, and they 349 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: went all in on Ryan Fitzpatrick and he got her 350 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: in the first quarter of the first game, and that 351 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: was that. And it wasn't great, And so he was 352 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: an older guy. But if you look at Jimmy's injury history, 353 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: are you counting? You know, it's hard for me to 354 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: think you're going all in on Jimmy, and you know, 355 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: given his injury history, you really do seem to run 356 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: a risk that you're now going to plan d within 357 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: the season. And you have a team that theoretically is 358 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: built to win now, as you said, the offensive line 359 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: even without Treder, the running game. So it's you know, 360 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that Baker's a great fit with Indie, 361 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: but somebody's going to take them because they're just aren't 362 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: enough quarterbacks for the chairs. If Carolina doesn't get to Sean, 363 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: are they now looking at Baker. It might not be 364 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: there first, second, or eighth choice, but you take a look. 365 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: You know, Seattle pledges love for Drew Lock, but you know, 366 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: it's tough to not think Baker's an upgrade on Drew Lock. 367 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think we're gonna have to see, 368 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, how these other chairs play out. Obviously, when 369 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: the Watson Domino falls, will know a lot more. But 370 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem like it's been handled very very well. 371 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: And you know, think back to the whole Let's go 372 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: all the way back to the drafting a Baker and 373 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: then Hugh Jackson fired did well under Freddie Kitchens. They 374 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: wanted to hire Stefanski, but they hired Kitchens thinking that 375 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: was going to do it for Baker. He hired Todd Monkin. 376 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: Baker hated Monkin, terrible fit. Then they say, okay, fine, 377 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: we're firing Freddie Kitchens and now we're gonna hire the 378 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: guy we really want. Where the analytics guys, where the 379 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: IVY League guys. We're gonna hire Kevin Stefanski. I don't 380 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: feel like Kevin Stefanski and Baker have been a great 381 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: fit stylistically. And one reason I say that is if 382 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: you look at Baker's best game ever, which is going 383 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: into Pittsburgh and lighting it up in a playoff game. 384 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski was in his basement and Alex ben Pelt 385 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: was calling the offense and he opened it up, which 386 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: I think Bigger loved. He had him, you know, back 387 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: with the offense spread out and said just see it, 388 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: throw it go, and he had he had a monster game. 389 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: And so maybe the Browns are finally just saying Baker's 390 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: not a great fit for us stylistically, personality wise, whatever, 391 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 1: even though you know he was drafted by them, by 392 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: John Dorsey. But you know that's fine. What's the plan? 393 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: Just like the forty nine ers when hey, Jim Harbaugh 394 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: is not a good fit here anymore. We're not getting 395 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: along with him. We got to get rid of him. Okay, fine, 396 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: what's the what's the plan? Jim Tomsula? 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All right, my buddy Nick Wright is joining me. 427 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: He's launching a new podcast. We'll get into that over 428 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: the next twenty five to thirty minutes. Um, I've got 429 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: to start on something because, uh, you know college basketball 430 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: is there's so many programs. I think the country has 431 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: watched less of it every year. The one and done 432 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: has essentially cut off the head of college basketball. It's 433 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: too transactional. Um, So I want to stick to the NBA, 434 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: which is in your wheelhouse. So I was thinking about 435 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: you the other day. Lebron James is going on this 436 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: scoring binge, and I said, you know, this isn't a 437 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 1: lost season for Lebron because he's never gonna catch Michael 438 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: and he wants to stay as healthy as he can. 439 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: He's had no major injuries, and there is value in 440 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: having a big scoring year and being selfish this year 441 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: for the first year in his career, I'm gonna score 442 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: some points. And he's never been that guy, and I 443 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: think it's remarkable he's become that guy. And I'm like, 444 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: to me, my takeaway is, hey, he's looking around the league. 445 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: He's looking around the Lakers' I'm gonna score this year. 446 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna add some points. That's my takeaway on what 447 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: he's done. He know that he knows the chemistry doesn't work. 448 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: He can't trust a d They're gonna blow this thing up, 449 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: probably in the offseason, and for the first time in 450 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: his career, I'm gonna be a little selfish, That's my take. 451 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: What's remarkable about it, though, is that he can do 452 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: this in year nine. The most points per game ever 453 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: for a guy year nineteen or later is Kareem with fourteen, 454 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: So he's doubling it more than doubling it, right, And 455 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: the fact that I always believed, you know, he said 456 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: years and years ago, I could win the scoring title 457 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: every year if I really wanted to, and I believed that, 458 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: then I did not go into this year thinking even 459 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: if he wanted to, that he could still average thirty 460 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: points per game. I thought he could still control games. 461 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: I thought he could still be the guy that in 462 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: a critical fourth quarter of a playoff series you would 463 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: want over any other guy in the league. I thought 464 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: maybe he could still get to that. But the fact 465 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: that he's gonna play this year more games than Durant 466 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: and he's gonna potentially win the scoring title, it's there 467 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: is It's utterly remarkable, And I actually think your guy, 468 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, in a weird way, has caused people to 469 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: appreciate what Lebron is doing this season a little less 470 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: because Brady, you know, won a super Bowl at forty three, 471 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: was you know, almost was a league MVP, you know, 472 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: leading candidate at age forty four. So I think people 473 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: are it's like, yeah, this is the era of old 474 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: athletes dominating. But we've never seen anything close to this 475 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: in the NBA. Nothing close to it previously. A couple 476 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: of NFL topics. You and I disagree on Russell Wilson. 477 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: I have him as a top five or six quarterback. 478 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: I think his temperament that's why I like him more 479 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: than Kyler or Aaron. You know, all these teams were 480 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: making these moves. All the Packers did pay Aaron Rodgers 481 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 1: more money. I think Denver is gonna be a much 482 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: better team. It feels very much. I've been saying this 483 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: for a year now. It feels very much like Tom 484 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: to Tampa. We had all these young players that were 485 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: better than everybody thought except for like fantasy football players, 486 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: like all these like Judy and Courtland Sutton and this 487 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: Javonte Williams, Like unless you're a fantasy football player, you mean, 488 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: I understand the value, but they're all just ready to explode. 489 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: I mean if teddy Bridgewater and Drew Locke had twenty 490 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: touchdowns and nine picks, goes two and Vic Fangio with 491 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: the coach like offensive coach Russell, we're getting a thirty 492 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: and seven that we're getting around there pretty quickly. So okay, 493 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: do you throw this top five stuff around? Okayhomes Mahomes. 494 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to just make this a list show. 495 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: But let's just Mahomes Alan Herbert. Do we agree they're 496 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: all better than him? Those three? That's just three? Mahomet 497 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: Mahomes Alan. Absolutely, you're not ready for Justin Herbert yet. Well, 498 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: he's got to have a winning record in the league. 499 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that he does. I he asked to 500 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: have a winning record in the league. Um. Justin Herbert, 501 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: by the way, has been the league two years, and 502 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: in those two years as one as many playoff games 503 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: as Russell Wilson the last two years, both with the 504 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: old goose egg. Um would you rather have Russ than 505 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: Rodgers for time out? I didn't say that because, well, 506 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,239 Speaker 1: Herbert's free right now. So if you're asking me as 507 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: a GM who I want, I'd take Herbert because I 508 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: have a Pam for two. No, that's fine. I move 509 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: on from the Herbert thing. I said, would you rather 510 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: have Russ than Rogers? Yes, Aaron. I think we have 511 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: a sixteen game playoff record, seven and nine at home, 512 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: often as a favorite. I think Aaron's into Aaron. I 513 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: don't think he has leadership skills. I have data that 514 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: proves he's not great coming from behind. He's a Baylor, 515 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: not a baller. He's not a foxhole guy. He's not optimistic. 516 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: He's more cynical. I think he I think he's a 517 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: bad hang. I think he wears people out. I don't 518 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: think he trusts many. That's that's a by the way, 519 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: that's been his issue family on. He doesn't trust people. 520 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm a I just know with Russell every 521 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: day all he thinks about his cr in football. I 522 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: don't think anything I think. And here's the thing. I 523 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: think you're like the guy who was in love in 524 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: love with this girl when you guys graduated high school 525 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: and then you both went to different colleges and he 526 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: came back, and she's given you all this evidence she's 527 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: a different person, and in your mind, she still as 528 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: she was four years ago. The Russell Wilson you fell 529 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: in love with. I don't know that that guy still exists. 530 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: He's not on the field, he's not as effective, and 531 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: off the field he seems like he's a bit of 532 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: a pain in the ass. Like I know he's your guy, 533 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: but he the whole I'm not demanding a trade, but 534 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: here are four teams I would go to be hold 535 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: on the ghost huddle on national television. Hey look at me, cameras, 536 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm you know, doing a whole huddle and a whole 537 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: two minute drill with no teammates, with my fingers broken, 538 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: and then having his doctor released that statement that seemed 539 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: like it came from Trump's White House doctor, this is 540 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: the greatest rehab of the greatest hand that you've ever seen. 541 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: I think it's I think your guy, Russell has got 542 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: in a little Hollywood. I think he's a little Hollywood Colin. 543 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: There are people in Seattle who do who did think 544 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: he's changed there. I've heard that from people around the Seahawks. 545 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: They thought he changed. And my takeaway is we all change. 546 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: He married one of the most beautiful people on the planet. 547 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: He's got a Super Bowl, he's got one hundred million 548 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: net worth, we all change. I think it is core. 549 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: He's an optimistic, aspirational, willful, focused guy. I think Aaron 550 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: Rodgers at his core is needy, doesn't have a wide 551 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: net of social connections. I think he's odd. I think 552 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean again, look at all the teams getting better. 553 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 1: The packers just paid Aaron Rodgers more. I think listen 554 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: that part. I agree with you on I think the 555 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: whole Rodgers fiasco's mortifying for him. I like, I know 556 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: he ended up making a ton of money, but I 557 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: think it's an insane what happened there. I always think 558 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: is insane. I was talking to an agent. I had 559 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: dinner with an agent about three or four nights ago, 560 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: and he said, I've ever seen an athlete lose more 561 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: brand than aaront in a year. He's like, a lot 562 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: of people want nothing to do with this. I've never 563 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: seen an athlete lose you know, whether it's Q rating 564 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: or popularity or anything without committing a crime faster than 565 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has, Like you know what I mean, Like 566 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: the this is it's remarkable, what the you know, the 567 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: way he's viewed now as opposed to twelve months ago. 568 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean literally, he's the highest paid quarterback in the league, 569 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: and he gets into semantics and he didn't like the 570 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: word used by Ian Rappaport. It's like, dude, you're the 571 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback in the league. End of debate. Of course, um, 572 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: you said agent. It made me think of someone because 573 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: I was when I was thinking about the quarterbacks. What 574 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: do you make of the Lamar thing? Why didn't Lamar 575 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: have a deal? Did Lamar Jackson? Like? What do you? 576 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: I know it started to just throw that at you, 577 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: but I thought of it because he doesn't seem to 578 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: have an agent. I would argue, of all the quarterbacks 579 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 1: in the league, the one who should most want long 580 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: term security is the one who rushes for a thousand 581 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: yards a year. Like, that's crazy to me that he 582 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: hasn't signed a new deal. Well, Lamar's initial brand was 583 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: undervalued and then very quickly turned to perhaps overvalued. He 584 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: can't play from behind. Baltimore, like New England, pays infrequently 585 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: drafts to replace. Everybody eventually is willing to pay. But 586 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: you know, I've read multiple reports that say they're in discussions. 587 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: Bushatti likes him, John Harbaugh supports him. But I was 588 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: on the Lamar's undervalued until last year, and then I thought, 589 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to keep my eyes open. Is 590 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: he a tad overvalued? I'm not sure he's either. But 591 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: would you have some concerns when you look at the 592 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: trajectory of Herbert and Joe Burrow? Oh, I would have 593 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: major concerns and major concerns if I'm the Ravens's but 594 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: I but from what I understand, I think the Ravens 595 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: have made him some offers. Like it's not like they're like, 596 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: we're not signing you now. Maybe they're not signing him 597 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: at forty five million a year. Maybe it's closer to 598 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: thirty five million a year. My point is this, I think, 599 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: given his playing style and that he didn't play great 600 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: last year, if I if I were advising him, I 601 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: would say, you have to sign the contract. Maybe you 602 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: cost yourself a total of twelve million dollars, but not 603 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: signing the contract, you might cost yourself a hundred million. 604 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,720 Speaker 1: Like how much did Baker cost himself by not signing 605 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: whatever the Brown's best last offer was, It might have 606 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: been one hundred million that he calls himself seventy five million. 607 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think for some of these guys 608 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: that aren't short things or are bigger injury risks than 609 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 1: others the whole. And I've talked about this before. Betting 610 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: on yourself sounds great except for when it doesn't work out. 611 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: When it doesn't work out, it's a Greek tragedy. It's 612 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: not a story of inspiration. And I worry about Lamar 613 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: in this regard. I think it's why Kayler's like, you 614 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: gotta pay me right now. And I'd be skeptical about 615 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: paying Kayler too, Like I wouldn't be a big fan 616 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: of that, But I understand why he's doing that. He 617 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: knows how big he is, he knows what's happening in 618 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the years. I think Lamar not 619 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: doing everything he can to get a new contract is crazy. 620 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: I think it's crazy. I think his mother is still 621 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: his agent. I know. That's That's what I'm saying. Like 622 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: I think it's I don't think it's great. I don't 623 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: think he's getting great advice. All right, you and your 624 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: wife have a new podcast. I didn't know if she 625 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: was on it. Now she is, well, she is on 626 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: it very intermittently, but my site kick on it. The 627 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: person asked me my questions is asking me the questions 628 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: is my son, So it's him and I with my 629 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: wife and daughters chiming in occasionally. But yeah, it starts Tuesday, 630 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: and I'm excited for it and I hope people she 631 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: can like and subscribe and everything. And I want to 632 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: say something because someone sent you a tweet and I 633 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: don't want to get two in the weeds on anything, 634 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: but I happen to see it and it said they 635 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: were mad at you. They were like, Uncle Colin, I'm 636 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: disappointed that you didn't have Nick as a part of 637 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: the volume. And one day, you know, that's a story 638 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: for the memoirs for both of us, but that is 639 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: a story for my last book. That is a story. 640 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: But I want America to know that Colin I both 641 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, did everything we could to make sure that 642 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: we could continue to work together in every capacity possible. 643 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: And Colin's hand has been open and out and assisting 644 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: me in every step of my journey the last six years. 645 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: So the idea that anyone would think you snubbed me 646 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: from the volume, I want to nip that in the bud. 647 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 1: That didn't happen. But like like Colin alud Doo earlier, 648 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: we all have different you know, contractual stuff and so. 649 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: But I'm very excited about this podcast that's starting on Tuesday. 650 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: It will be a couple of days a week and 651 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: it's short. This I'm learning from you on Some people 652 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: do podcasts an hour and forty minutes. These are going 653 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: to be about twenty five minutes long. I hope people 654 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: subscribe to it. It's called What's ray Make sure to 655 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: check out The Draymon Green Show. I brought Draymond Green 656 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: into the Volume because one of the more entertaining voices 657 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: in sports, unique perspective understands behind the rope. Also chops 658 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: up with guests like Gary Peyton, Zach Levine, Tracy McGrady. 659 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: Make sure download The Draymond Green Show wherever you get 660 00:40:51,040 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: your podcasts, only on the Volume podcast network. Right, Dave 661 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: Wantstat Fox Sports Bears Dolphins head coach coordinator for the 662 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys Super Bowl twenty seven, So you are one of 663 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: the last American standing who loves Mitch Trubisky. No no, no, 664 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: no no, I'm one of two because which you've talked 665 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: about today in your blind resumes. I watched that and 666 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: you have completely confused the National Football League world. That 667 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: was fantastic I'm telling you it, but it's a fact. 668 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: It truly is, and I really think calling it with 669 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: mister Trubisky, a lot has to do with and don't 670 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: put Troy Aikman's numbers up for Terry Bradshaw's the first 671 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: four years. I mean, because they might be worse, and 672 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: a lot has to do with the system that you're in. 673 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: And that was my only that was my only battle 674 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 1: cry in supporting Mitch. Yeah, and I said this, I 675 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: was never a huge Traubisky fan, but the Steelers have 676 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: much better perimeter weapons offensively, Chase Claypool and Deante Johnson. 677 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: They have. They just got another offensive lineman today. They 678 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: have a better offensive line potentially than he had in Chicago, 679 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: and they have a better defense. They've led the NFL 680 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 1: and sacks Fife raight years, and they have a better 681 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,919 Speaker 1: coach in Mike Tomlin. So my thing is, I saw 682 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: case Keenum when eleven games in this league, when he 683 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,959 Speaker 1: had the right supporting cast. You can't tell me this 684 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: Steeler team is better than that Bears team. And he 685 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: got to the playoffs twice with that Bears team, and 686 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: you kept telling me, you're like Colin, he has limitations 687 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: there is a way to win with him. And that 688 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: was your assertion, right absolutely, and I still agree with that. 689 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: And I watched them obviously every week doing shows in 690 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: Chicago and was a training camp, and the first thing 691 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: that got my attention was with a lot of quarterbacks 692 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: without getting in other names, the intangibles on this kid 693 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: are a plus. And by that I mean in early, stay, late, 694 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: study it, team, guy, humble, I mean all of those things. 695 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: Give the kid a chance. And now when you got 696 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: some ability, I just think it was a bad mix 697 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: from the very beginning. You know, Matt Nagee did not 698 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: draft him, and he wanted to run a system that 699 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: was different and it just wasn't a fifth But the 700 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: kid won games when he had chances. And so I 701 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 1: think now in Pittsburgh and you didn't even mention Harris 702 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: nage Harris, maybe you know all rookie running back that 703 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 1: the Steelers have. So the Steelers and Mike Tomlin, they're 704 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: gonna play defense and they're gonna run the ball, and 705 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a great fit for the guy. And 706 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: whether they draft a rookie, they might be thinking in 707 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: the back of the mind, the Steelers still need to 708 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: draft a rookie running back or a quarterback. I'm sorry, 709 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: and that's fine, you know, but give Mitch a chance, 710 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: and let's say in two years, experience up there playing 711 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: behind Josh Allen with Brian dave Ball as his offensive 712 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: coordinate helps. Running a system helps a lot. Running a 713 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: system where the quarterback run was a big part of 714 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: Buffalo's offense with Josh Allen, you know what I mean. So, 715 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers are going to have a lot of good 716 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: film the study of what they believe this kid can 717 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: do best. I think it's a good I love it. 718 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for this kid. I said today, if 719 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 1: you told me Tah or Trubisky, because of his athletic 720 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: ability and the ability to move the polit I would 721 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: take Trubisky over toa absolutely, and the ability I think 722 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: to throw the ball down the field. Trubisky is a 723 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: lot better athlete than people give him credit for. Any question. Guy, 724 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: he's a tough guy. I mean, this kid is. So 725 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: I think it's a good fit. I like it. Like 726 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: I said, now, you know, I'm not gonna I'm not 727 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 1: going overboard. If the Steelers draft the Willis kid from Liberty, 728 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: I know they're high on him. In the draft, so be, 729 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: it's going to take that kid a couple of years 730 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: to get ready. Let's see what happens with Mitch. Yeah, 731 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: and I think something you know the Steelers in the 732 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: front office very well. The other thing is, and you 733 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: touched on this, he's a Mitch as a Steeler kid, 734 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 1: hard working, not a big ego. You know, I said 735 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: this about Big Ben. Ben was a polarizing figure. I 736 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: made one call today that somebody that knew Trubisky in 737 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: Chicago and they're like, everybody loved him. Ben could split 738 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: locker rooms. He had trouble with Lavian, he had trouble 739 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: with offensive coordinators Todd Haley, he had trouble with ab 740 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 1: My guy, said Jay Cutler. Polarizing in Chicago, big band, 741 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: polarizing in Pittsburgh. He's like everybody loved Trubisky. He feels 742 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: like a Pittsburgh guy. That's what I might take. What 743 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: he works, Yeah, yeah, and that's the way he plays 744 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: the game. He works and he plays that way. No, 745 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a good fit. I think for the Steelers. 746 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: You know, they were not going to give away three 747 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: number one picks for Deshaun Watson. I mean, that wasn't 748 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: going to happen. I'll tell you what. Talking to people 749 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: back there, they've seen enough of of Rudolf Mason Rudolph, 750 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 1: They've seen enough of Haskins. You know, they want to 751 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,919 Speaker 1: Ben's gone, let's let's have a clean slate and let's 752 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: move forward. So it's it's a good and the and 753 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. He loves the movement stuff. You know, 754 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: he did a lot so that he's not a Matt Canada. 755 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: You know Matt Canada when he was at Pitton and 756 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,479 Speaker 1: he had Peterman there. I mean they did a lot 757 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: of the jet sweeps and all that college I hate 758 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: to say colleague stuff, but that's kind of what he 759 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: did and had successful that Ben couldn't do that. Let 760 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: me tell you something. You rushed four guys against mister Biski. 761 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: You look up in your blind resume. How many first 762 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: dons he made with his feet. It's a big number. 763 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: He'll make plays with his feet. You can't fall in 764 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: love with things that have worked before, but you do 765 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: know as a coach there are certain recipes that work. 766 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: And if you go look at Belichick's five years in Cleveland, 767 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 1: the last two years in New England, the year Brady 768 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,760 Speaker 1: got hurt and New England before Brady started the Bledsoe 769 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,720 Speaker 1: years without Tommy's won forty seven percent of his games. 770 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,479 Speaker 1: And I think Bill's brilliant. But this is something Rex 771 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: Ryan said for years. He's like, listen, Brady changes the equation. 772 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: He's like a movie star in an average script. You know, 773 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: a lot of those funny movies wouldn't be as funny 774 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: without Jim Carrey. He made the movie right. Otherwise it's 775 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: a bad, stupid movie. And I look at Belichick. They 776 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: let Shack Mason go, they let J. C. Jackson go. Hell, 777 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: they're not paying Mac Jones. They're in a division with 778 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: wildly deep and talented Buffalo. My thing is, listen, I 779 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: know Belichick can coach. They don't have enough star players, Dave. 780 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: They got Matt Judon who vanished at the end of 781 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: the season. They don't have any perimeter playmakers. What do 782 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: you make I mean, hell, they're not paying Mac Jones. 783 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: Who are they paying? Yeah, it did surprise me a 784 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: little bit with the when Jackson got away, you know, 785 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,720 Speaker 1: because I thought they'd resign him. You know. Again, Bill 786 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: obviously has an opinion on that we're not aware of, 787 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 1: or we're not privy to you know, I would just 788 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 1: say this regardless of who plays. And we can talk 789 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: Mac Jones versus Tom Brady, the foundation of the Patriot way. 790 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: Let's use that what Bill Belichick wants to do, not 791 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: turn the ball over, be one of the least penalized teams, 792 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,280 Speaker 1: be good in the special teams. It doesn't matter who 793 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: the players are. That formula doesn't change. And I think 794 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: where coaches get into problems all of a sudden, they 795 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 1: get a player that's a great drop back passer and 796 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 1: they change their whole philosophy and then they end up 797 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: throwing interceptions and it doesn't work out. Where Bill and 798 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,479 Speaker 1: search players into the mold that he wants his team 799 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,399 Speaker 1: to be. And he's done that since Cleveland. I mean 800 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 1: you can back and look, we played Cleveland when he 801 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: was up there, and I practiced against him when he 802 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: was at Cleveland. He came out three years in a 803 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: row to Chicago, to Platteville to the Bears when I 804 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: was the head coach of the Bears and uh, and 805 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: we worked against each other and it was the it 806 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: was the blueprint that they were going to do. And 807 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: you saw that. The issue with Mac Jones, it was 808 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: going to be high percentage passes, a lot of screens. 809 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: Run the ball, don't turn it over. One of the 810 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 1: least fedalized teams in the league, play good defense. I mean, 811 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: that's the formula. So I uh, you know, you know, yeah, 812 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was the difference. I remember a playoff game 813 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: where we lost to him, and I remember North Turner, 814 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: uh callby and he says, take a look at this, 815 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: and they I think we had fifteen third dons and 816 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: they had fifteen third dons, and in our quarterback, Jay Feeler, 817 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: I think he completed you know, eight of the third 818 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: of the fifteen third dons and Brady completed eleven or twelve, 819 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 1: and it was those three passes that made the difference 820 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: in them getting first dons and winning the game by 821 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: three points. You know. So I think that Tom Brady, 822 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: a player of his caliber, does make a difference. But 823 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: my point is this that Tom Brady played within the 824 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: framework of the Patriot way. You know, his skill did 825 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: not meant that he even though he could have done 826 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: more in his mind, he didn't. He didn't. And so 827 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: I think that's that's Bill Belichick. There's a lot of credit. 828 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of these coaches will will swing 829 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: one way or another, depending completely on the players they lose, 830 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 1: and they lose the foundation of what they're trying to build. 831 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 1: That doesn't happen in New England. You never will. You 832 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: know the Chicago Bears, Well, here's what worries me. Rookie GM, 833 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 1: a defensive coach in a league that is increasingly offensive. 834 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: Should I be worried? If I'm a Bears fan? Justin 835 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: Fields now probably gonna lose Allen Robinson offensive line still 836 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:59,760 Speaker 1: work in progress? A defensive head coach? Are how much? 837 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: And you know this organization? Well, are you a little concerned? 838 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: Off a turbulent year one? About year two? For him? No? 839 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I have. This is encouraged. I've 840 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 1: been about the Bears organization in years and let me 841 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: tell you two things. Two things. Number one, you know, 842 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 1: the offense is young. David Montgomery Mooney, the tight end commences, 843 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: you know, the rookie end. You know he's They've got 844 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 1: two young offensive linemen and I think they're going to 845 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:35,280 Speaker 1: be players. They are a young offense, Justin Fields and 846 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: the problem that the Bears would have had if they 847 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: keep all these veteran guys that Danny Trebasins and the 848 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. Yeah, you know. I mean in two years, 849 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, when the offense reaches the peak of a 850 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 1: championship level play, the defense would have been old or 851 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,359 Speaker 1: out of contracts. So I like, I love what they're doing. 852 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: They are saying right now, you know what, we are 853 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 1: going to go young. We got a young football team. 854 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna draft young players, We're gonna coach young players, 855 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,720 Speaker 1: and we're gonna bring this whole franchise to the top. 856 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,240 Speaker 1: At the same time, I think that's smart. The second 857 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 1: thing why I love a defensive head coach, I mean 858 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: they he understands the importance of running the football. And 859 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, in three of the coaches that they hired 860 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: on offense, Luke Getsy was on my staff at Pitt, 861 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: Andrew Janoko their quarterback coach, was a backup quarterback for me, 862 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 1: a Pit and David Walker, they're running back coach who 863 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: they hired was with me six years of pit. They 864 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: all get the running game and they understand it. It's 865 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: gonna be the best thing that could have happened for 866 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: Justin Fields. Is Justin Field's going to be a great player. 867 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't know we all hope so, but we're gonna 868 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: find out because he's gonna be in an offense now. 869 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 1: It truly gives him a chance to be successful. They're 870 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: gonna run the ball, they're gonna play defense, they're gonna 871 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: play field position, and that's in my mind, that's what 872 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 1: a young quarterback really needs until he gets his confidence 873 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 1: and until he gets this swigger a little bit. So 874 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna find out because Justin Fields is going to 875 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 1: get the best chance and this system with these coaches 876 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 1: to be successful. So I like what they're doing personnel wise, 877 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: and I like what they're doing philosophy wise. I really do. 878 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 1: I would have thought you hated the Khalil Mack move. 879 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,760 Speaker 1: You like pass rushers. I do. But you know, between 880 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack last year, between you, I'm just gonna Kleil 881 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:34,240 Speaker 1: Mack a team Hicks and uh Cohen a little running 882 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 1: back that they let go. Between those three guys, they 883 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: played three percent of the snaps, three percent of the 884 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 1: play of their place. I mean, because of injuries. It's age, 885 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 1: it's injuries. It's time to move on, new regime, new coach, 886 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 1: new energy, it's you got to do it. It's time 887 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: to move on, and uh, I'm all for it, you know. 888 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: I hope I love Khalil Mack. I hope he has 889 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 1: a great year with the charts. I really do it 890 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: all these other guys, but get those young guys in 891 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 1: there and build this team together. 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