WEBVTT - Jeb Terry: Being the Original Beast Mode, The Game-Changing Cosm Experience

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<v Speaker 1>This is Jeb Terry. This is Jebby and this is

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL Players Second Acts Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Peanut too Mean and this is the NFL Players

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<v Speaker 2>Second Acts Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>And with me, as always, my choice is Sidekick the

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<v Speaker 3>Deacon Roman harping us up.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby. I appreciate it. Thank you so much, Peanut.

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<v Speaker 3>That was actually a normal intro to me and I

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate that you don't ever do that. So with all

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<v Speaker 3>that being said, I want to thank all of our

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<v Speaker 3>listeners and the people that watch us all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>will answer all your questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Peanut. Who we got today? We got a going guys.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in the two thousd and for.

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<v Speaker 3>Draft, drafted by Tampa Bay, played three seasons. He's killing

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<v Speaker 3>it in the business for it. He's a tech guru.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why he's the ero CEO of COSM. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 3>please welcome to the show podcast. Jeb Terry.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I got to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I like about Jeb is that the

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<v Speaker 3>moment he sat down, he said, Okay, who do I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta beat?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, just get it. Petition is the one who

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<v Speaker 2>we beating. Who I gotta be Who's at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's what we're running for, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta find competition.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, Hey, I like it. I like it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are you from? I'm here some some that that accident?

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<v Speaker 3>What what what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You know, grew up in Dallas, Texas, and so

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<v Speaker 2>my god, you know part of Dallas? What part of Dallas?

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<v Speaker 1>Just North Dallas in area up there, proper group in Lakewood. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a Carpers Cove Waco Temple there is. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>Central Texas, Yeah, Passes. That place has changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a lot booming right, Yeah, Yeah that's me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a Texas has the best football room. They go

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<v Speaker 2>sign that for sure. We're killing Alabama high school football.

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<v Speaker 1>No chance, Florida, get out of here. In California, get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing Calabama y'all doing right now is like

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<v Speaker 3>fighting on riverboats.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all y'all got right now. That's all y'all doing.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't realize this was what was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here for We.

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<v Speaker 2>Will accept that. We will openly accept that. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you this, as far as high school

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<v Speaker 3>football is concerned in Texas, and I listened to all

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<v Speaker 3>the scouts from ESPN and the people I work with

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<v Speaker 3>on my SEC nation and network, they say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>Texas football players are great. They're really really good. But

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<v Speaker 3>they're usually the same player that you get in high school.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to kind of be that they're kind of

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<v Speaker 3>maxed out because they've been getting coached up doing the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing since like sixth grade. Versus Florida, some other

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<v Speaker 3>athletes from other places, they probably have a bigger runway

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe a higher ceiling purely because like they're a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit or raw, you know, versus Texas. You guys

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<v Speaker 3>do such a great job of coaching them since fifth grade. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm coming from Carolina, where the ceiling is the roof. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know if Jordan out there, but

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta tell you what, man, there's there's no ceiling

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<v Speaker 3>for Texas football right now. We're growing up there. The

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<v Speaker 3>competition is real from day one, Yes it is. And

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<v Speaker 3>you're playing quick. Yeah, you're playing it like Pop Warner,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you guys are tackling early, like they're out there

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<v Speaker 3>early six years old.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what's going I didn't play that early, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, I know I did. I idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, let's just get we'll talk about football. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get the first one out the way.

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<v Speaker 2>We love to know. What was your first welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL moment?

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<v Speaker 1>Got it? So?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>The Bucks drafted me right coming off that that Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl team and O two and I come in and

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<v Speaker 1>there's guys like Derek Brooks, you know, Mike Alstott, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>guys you look up to. And mine was just in practice, right,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I find myself blocking Derek and

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<v Speaker 1>all start cuts behind me, and You're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh wow, this is this is the real deal.

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<v Speaker 1>The guys I've been watching, all these guys have been

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<v Speaker 1>watching for forever, man, you know, And that was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things. It's just like dis an appreciation for

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<v Speaker 1>the skill and the talent that these guys had because

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like I was going into a team that

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<v Speaker 1>was rebuilding. The team wasn't up and coming. This team

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<v Speaker 1>was established and that defense at the time was league's best.

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<v Speaker 1>And we had some guys that you followed for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, and that was always something that was incredible

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<v Speaker 1>to me. You don't play in that room. What were

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<v Speaker 1>those practices? Like hot they still don't have an indoor man, Tampa,

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<v Speaker 1>Now they do. Now Tampa's got one?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they finally have?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was at Old One Buck when we were there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, you fly in and the airplanes

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<v Speaker 1>came right over the top of that practice facility. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. And I had come from Carolina where he

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<v Speaker 1>had just redone the whole Keenan Football Center and the

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<v Speaker 1>whole deal. So we had these great facilities at Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, all right, going to the.

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<v Speaker 2>NFL, it's better. No.

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<v Speaker 1>Old One Buck was not that, But man, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>the practices were intense because the guys were all pros.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone on that team was a pro. Same and Rice,

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Day, Booger, McFarlane, all stot, I mean, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Ron Day and then you had you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Gruden was the coach, and he had you know, guys

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<v Speaker 1>like Ron Middleton, tight ends coach Morris, you know those

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<v Speaker 1>coach that coaching tree.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my gosh, you're like these guys that coaching trees. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>You looking around the NFL right now and these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are all still doing it at a big.

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<v Speaker 2>Scale, really big scale.

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<v Speaker 1>And that that that team, the coaching staff, everybody came

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<v Speaker 1>to the came to the room and works and it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was awesome to be part of that organization.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, your career ended a little short. Low, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>isn't a little short, but and I know you probably

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<v Speaker 3>still wanted to play.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what was your what was your best memory was

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<v Speaker 2>of your I.

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<v Speaker 1>Will say on an intro we said three years, I

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<v Speaker 1>got five. I got five all the way I.

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<v Speaker 3>Apologize, Yeah yeah, I apologie.

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<v Speaker 2>However you get there? Does that?

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<v Speaker 1>I know I had one which I had gotten heard

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<v Speaker 1>and did the whole injury settlement thing that when I

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<v Speaker 1>was coming back. So you know, look, my career was

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<v Speaker 1>one where I got close to being really really good

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<v Speaker 1>and then some things got in the way, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things happened in the NFL. I got heard I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>playing great, and it was pretty obvious to me where

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't playing up to the standard that I knew

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<v Speaker 1>I could play. And so I'd gone to the forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine ers in my last season and I tore a

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<v Speaker 1>planer fascia and again just wasn't playing good football. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty obvious when they cut me. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things where they go a Jeb, need you.

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<v Speaker 2>To talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, yeah, I get it right. It's that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually one of the things I missed about playing football

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<v Speaker 1>is the transparent nature of feedback, Like you know, when.

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<v Speaker 3>You are not plus plus league.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, it's clear, and it was. It was pretty clear

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<v Speaker 1>to me, and I tried to hang on for a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, had a few workouts that last season. Fortunately

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<v Speaker 1>i'd taken the g maat right the NBA test and

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<v Speaker 1>and wasn't a good enough position to apply to a

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<v Speaker 1>few schools, And it was kind of had to make

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<v Speaker 1>it decision where where I knew I wasn't playing the

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<v Speaker 1>level I wanted to play at and and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I could get back there. You know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you were playing really good and the game's moving slow

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<v Speaker 1>and you feel good, and so kind of made that

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<v Speaker 1>decision and year five that it was I had to

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<v Speaker 1>move on and go chase that second act and and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we went back to Hill to make the

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<v Speaker 1>act better than the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Went back to Hill, did I did?

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<v Speaker 1>I went back to Chapel. I looked a lot of places,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had my oldest daughter at the time. It

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<v Speaker 1>was two thousand and eight, market crashed, I got cut

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<v Speaker 1>and my first kid was born, and it's like whoa

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<v Speaker 1>the trip It was real fast, right, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like, all right, get back to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to business school, regroup, refresh, figure out that next step.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you're the CEO of your company, cause them

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<v Speaker 3>and I want you to be able to share with

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else. And it's spilled coe s M, s M,

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<v Speaker 3>and now be able what does it bring to the

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<v Speaker 3>fans and tell kind of explained what it is. I

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<v Speaker 3>tried to read up on it and it looks really

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<v Speaker 3>really cool in the web technical and I was just like,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't even try it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good. It's one of those things where you go

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<v Speaker 1>to like an event or cocktail party and someone asked,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do? Yeah, you know, you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell them. Sometime that's gonna take a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, This makes me feel a lot better. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Look what we're what we're setting out to do is

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<v Speaker 1>the most incredible fan viewing experience I think to ever

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<v Speaker 1>hit the industry. You know, I was fortunate I had

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<v Speaker 1>a few seats along the way as a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mobile video platform, a company I started got bought by

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports when worked at Fox for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>where I met a bunch of the guys in and

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<v Speaker 1>around this office as well and learned a lot from them,

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<v Speaker 1>and then moved on, Oh, you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely hamming it up with all the guys earlier. This

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<v Speaker 3>is where you know all of them from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we got some stuffing, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, it's like combining

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<v Speaker 1>all the stuff that I was able to learn when

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<v Speaker 1>I was at those seats and then leaning into some

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<v Speaker 1>super kind of advanced technology that's happening. That's you know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people aren't going to be seeing for

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<v Speaker 1>a number of years, but it's combining that to super

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<v Speaker 1>serve the fan and give them that all access seat

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<v Speaker 1>that you never had.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So everyone has heard about virtual reality and how you

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<v Speaker 1>put on a headset and it's like you're actually at

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<v Speaker 1>the game, right, And you can do that and it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool, but you miss the energy, the vibe, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole scene and the environment. And that's what we're about.

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<v Speaker 1>A cosm, is why I leverage all that technology to

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<v Speaker 1>power those experiences, but I bring it at a scale

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<v Speaker 1>to where you are in that environment with hundreds and

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of fans and you can high five and you

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<v Speaker 1>can cheer, and it's the same environment like you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>at the game itself. And we do it in a

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<v Speaker 1>live format at super high resolution, and we can literally

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<v Speaker 1>transport fans to that best seat, whether it's court side,

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<v Speaker 1>pitch side, fifty yard line, you name it. I can

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<v Speaker 1>take them there. And it is as an undescribable thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have to be patient with that, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about patients a lot, and we have to

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to be misunderstood until we launch, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of part of it and being resolute in that mission.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're opening up our first venue here I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred yards away just from here. It's a sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand square foot facility and it is going to

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<v Speaker 1>blow your mind. It is one of the most incredible

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<v Speaker 1>technological advancements I think I've seen in my career and

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<v Speaker 1>the team around it developing this bringing us to life

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<v Speaker 1>is the most amazing experience that I think has hit

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<v Speaker 1>the industry in a long time now.

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<v Speaker 3>The pandemic hit a lot of people hard a few

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<v Speaker 3>years back, and a lot of companies went Bailey up

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<v Speaker 3>and whatnot. How hard was it for COSM to get

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<v Speaker 3>started during the pandemic, and it was It was interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>It was We saw a trend in the industry prior

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<v Speaker 3>to it, the watch party phenomenon. Everyone wants to go

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<v Speaker 3>and hang out and the game together really prevalent with

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<v Speaker 3>World Cups, you know, and you got to see the

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<v Speaker 3>soccer fans and then the Premier league fans and that

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<v Speaker 3>started to expand, and you get the Deer District right

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<v Speaker 3>in Milwaukee, and you got Jurassic Park with the Raptor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was a thing that was happening. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>the pandemic kind of shined the light on the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that we as humans we want connectivity, we want the

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<v Speaker 3>energy of the crowd. Us being here is way better

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<v Speaker 3>than like a zoom podcast. Zoom right is tough. Well

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden we did this. It's like, yeah, this is it,

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<v Speaker 3>this is like, this what we need.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we wanted to do. We want we

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<v Speaker 1>want the juice energy, right, and so you think about

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<v Speaker 1>that human connectivity and that's what our business is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we were able to buy companies up. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the companies we bought was a big was

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<v Speaker 1>a public company. We took a private That was on

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<v Speaker 1>April sixth, twenty twenty, so week three of the pandemic, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that was when it was gnarly. But then the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>created opportunities to be capital efficient with our acquisition strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>We bought a few more companies, we rolled them up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it created you know, really difficulties in managing and

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<v Speaker 1>distributed workforce around the world via zoom. Now, I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>in person guy by nature, and it's hard to express that.

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<v Speaker 1>But we were able to fight through it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, I think it hardened us.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look through the history of some of the

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<v Speaker 1>great companies that were founded, they got they got founded

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<v Speaker 1>in downturns or in crises, things like that. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mix of being opportunistic, finding the right opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>and people changed their frame of reference and looked for

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<v Speaker 1>different things, right, whether that's building a team. People had

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<v Speaker 1>to doferent perspectives like, man, I want to do something fun, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do something that excites me, something that's

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<v Speaker 1>like next cutting edge. And you're able to offer those

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities and I actually think it would ended up it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to end up being part of our big narrative

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<v Speaker 1>of of how our company was built.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you're also you guys are looking to expand in

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<v Speaker 3>in Dallas. You're going to build their doubt we're at

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<v Speaker 3>in Dallas and are you are you going to try

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<v Speaker 3>and base it around like the arena almost like what

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about with the buck zone or the what

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<v Speaker 3>the raptors have outside there, because you know we look

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<v Speaker 3>at it and you talked great example is the World

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<v Speaker 3>Cup when those when you see Argentina win, it.

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<v Speaker 2>All like going grace, It's like right there, that was

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<v Speaker 2>like to bring that.

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<v Speaker 3>To the fans no matter where it will be, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it will be a unique, unique experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>And people don't understand, like sports gives us this emotion

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<v Speaker 3>that you can't get everywhere else. Then last second shot

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<v Speaker 3>that last second field goal, that games and whatever. It's

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<v Speaker 3>this emotion that you don't get doing anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get it. And it's the ability to high

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<v Speaker 1>five and be around fans that are sharing in that joy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in high five and someone you've never met

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<v Speaker 1>or never know, test bumping, you know, fist bump, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It's that energy, and so we want to

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<v Speaker 1>deploy that at a massive scale. So we've announced our

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<v Speaker 1>one here. We've announced our one in North Texas. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's are called Frisco, which I.

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<v Speaker 2>Said that, I said, I bet it's in Frisco.

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<v Speaker 1>So where we are I would say we are in

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<v Speaker 1>the colony, which is Frisco adjacent if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>say anything. But it's all in North Texas here at

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<v Speaker 1>a entertainment district called Grandscape, so it's a mixed use

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment district. But that strategy is further away from the

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<v Speaker 1>venues in Arlington, from the stadiums, and so here we

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<v Speaker 1>are stadium adjacent right in the mix, always shoulder programming,

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<v Speaker 1>organic when the team's on the road, come watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Causem that type of energy with a lot of traffic

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<v Speaker 1>and demand and the pre the post entire programming slate

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas. You look at it for the fans that

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<v Speaker 1>can't get to the arena, that it's too far to

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<v Speaker 1>get to, and offering that amenity there. And it's the

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<v Speaker 1>hire day part, whether it's showing Premier League games in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, rolling into the NBA in the evening, everything

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<v Speaker 1>in between. And you've got UFC pay per views and

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<v Speaker 1>you have all the program on the weekend. You can

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<v Speaker 1>fill a content counter real fast, and it's all live

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's always new, always fresh, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come to Cosmic to see it at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you partnered with UFC in July, and I

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<v Speaker 3>know fans got to experience like something one of a

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<v Speaker 3>con experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you can you talk about that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So every time we announce a big deal, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a media day where we bring up you know, the league,

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<v Speaker 1>the federation, whoever we partner with, and then we bring

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<v Speaker 1>up all their media. Uh So we did a did

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<v Speaker 1>one big, a dead one, did a big one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was, where is he going?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he digging work? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>So we went we did we did one one the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA around their All Star game in Salt Lake. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where we have a big demo facility and then we

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<v Speaker 1>hosted the UFCS as well after we announced that, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just about bringing the people in and seeing what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about. This is us see it to believe it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is right. It's inherently hard to market and promote,

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<v Speaker 1>but once they're in, it's just going to give them

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<v Speaker 1>dulously shareable. We talk about this thing called the viral

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<v Speaker 1>coefficient right where it's when someone experiences your product, your tech,

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<v Speaker 1>your food, what all, they just want to share about it.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to post, they want to drive more awareness.

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<v Speaker 1>And we think ours is really big because we've seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>When people come, all they want to do is film

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<v Speaker 1>and say they were there. And so that's that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the of what we're doing, is we share this out.

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned that the energy is sport and fandom

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. That's the business we deal in.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing better because we all self select and

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<v Speaker 1>say I want more Saints gear, I want more Bears gear,

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<v Speaker 1>I want more Bucks gear. All the fans are out

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<v Speaker 1>there saying that I want more, and so if we

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<v Speaker 1>can always position to super serve that fan and give

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<v Speaker 1>them what they want, we have a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>How many people can you fit in your in the facility. Yeah, son,

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<v Speaker 3>five thousand square feet? How many people?

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<v Speaker 1>So right here the total capacity is two thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>in this and so you get a good energy and

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<v Speaker 1>just bring on my phone because I got to show

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<v Speaker 1>you the video. There's no other way to do it

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<v Speaker 1>than to show you what we're looking at right here.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is what we built up in Salt Lake City.

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<v Speaker 2>So can you describe it what we're looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we're walking into our office here. We call it

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<v Speaker 1>the Experience Center and this is where we preping onboard

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<v Speaker 1>you and then all of a sudden you go into

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<v Speaker 1>the dome and it is that transformative experience. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is an eight k twenty meter diameter led dome that

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<v Speaker 1>is crystal clear and puts you there. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>spatial audio system so when the pin drops, it's in

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<v Speaker 1>the upper ninety. When the ball hits the net, you

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<v Speaker 1>know where it is. Then you level that up with

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<v Speaker 1>a elevated hospitality, hit great f and b, elevated foods.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear his head hit the mat in this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have the energy of the crowd. And we

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<v Speaker 1>do all this live live, and so these are the

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<v Speaker 1>things our teams did from producing the Olympics to producing

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<v Speaker 1>the World Cup to going around the world and doing

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<v Speaker 1>this in a live format. I can now bring that

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<v Speaker 1>at scale to give fans that best seat in the

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<v Speaker 1>house no matter what it is. We leverage a linear

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<v Speaker 1>feed and it over top so you get the color commentary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So it's really the best of at home and

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<v Speaker 1>the best of in stadium experience, and it is. We

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<v Speaker 1>think it's truly one of the kind in a category

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<v Speaker 1>defining thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. So when do we get one in Chicago?

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<v Speaker 2>I like that thing right there?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, we're looking, we're looking. I got when do we

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<v Speaker 1>get one in Chicago? Let me do some looking when

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<v Speaker 1>I get on my plane to night.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Jeff tell me this, How would this go along

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<v Speaker 3>with a Super Bowl experience? Like, how would you guys

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<v Speaker 3>be able to do that? Just understanding you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you're a football guy. Yeah, so doubt How

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<v Speaker 3>are we going to scale this in football terms? You

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<v Speaker 3>have no doubt here. I know you're going to show everything,

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<v Speaker 3>But how would this compare to an in game Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl experience versus what you're bringing to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the promise of what we're bringing is it

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<v Speaker 1>is a complimentary experience to being in the stadium. We

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<v Speaker 1>are never going to take that place, correct, That is

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<v Speaker 1>a sacred environment. I appreciate you saying, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no way we can ever replace that. What we want

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<v Speaker 1>to do is offer fans who might not be in

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<v Speaker 1>that city, who might not be able to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>who who wanted to try to experience something as close

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<v Speaker 1>to it as possible. That's the offering we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>give them. And we endeavor to have the second best

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl experience in the world, as opposed from being

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<v Speaker 1>there in itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right again, you said it, I mean, I mean it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's are insane. Look it's it's it's definitely an intricate

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<v Speaker 1>puzzle and it takes a lot of patience to go

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<v Speaker 1>through it and navigate with leagues, federations, broadcasters, all the partners,

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<v Speaker 1>all the rights holders, and our whole approach is you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be additive. You got to be you got

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<v Speaker 1>to make the pie bigger. We aren't cannibalizing any existing

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<v Speaker 1>distribution outlet. And that's our approach.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's so smart.

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<v Speaker 1>And have a partnership minded approach the entire time. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hopefully pulling some heart strings, is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being on the field in certain situations too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, for sure. You got this experience growing pretty

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<v Speaker 2>quickly though just from the video you've seen, like I

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<v Speaker 2>I assume you you expect tremendous growth pretty quickly with

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<v Speaker 2>with what would you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just Yeah, we're we're excited about it. So we're opening

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<v Speaker 1>to next year. We have big ambitions. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be announcing a few more sites later this year, a

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<v Speaker 1>few more league partners, some broadcast partners, and and so

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<v Speaker 1>the momentum is real. And one of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>like to talk about with our company is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you deal in the in the in the business

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<v Speaker 1>or the tech world, you know there's not everyone's been

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<v Speaker 1>on a team, and not everyone knows how important momentum

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<v Speaker 1>can be. You know, when you're on a winning streak, right,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you capture it? How do you keep it?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you keep everybody juiced up? And that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we try to do here every time we every

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<v Speaker 1>time we get a win, you got to celebrate that

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<v Speaker 1>win definitely, and then forget it and get to the

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<v Speaker 1>next one, you know what I mean. And so we

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<v Speaker 1>we just try to keep that momentum going. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>it now, we've got the juice and we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>just maintain it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, Do you have any plans to do anything international?

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. We look at the international markets, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with the distribution from US based sports internationally a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of interest. Right. We've got the NFL over in London

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest of Europe and all the interests there.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the NBA going globally as well, and then

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<v Speaker 1>in Germany too. In Germany it's a it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big spot. And then additionally you have international sport

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<v Speaker 1>coming here, right, whether it's Premier League, Champions League, you

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<v Speaker 1>look at cricket, that's a massive sport.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an amazing day part for us too, right because

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<v Speaker 1>those usually on different hours where you don't have prime

0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:16.560
<v Speaker 1>time US sports, and so internationally is part of our footprint.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the companies we acquired, actually it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be weird, is the biggest planetarium company in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So we power over seven hundred planetariums globally. We have

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<v Speaker 1>forty two in China, and so part of our core

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<v Speaker 1>business is delivering that. If you saw that video, you

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<v Speaker 1>see where that heritage comes into play, and it's all

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.800
<v Speaker 1>that expertise that they have in that space. And that

0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:38.920
<v Speaker 1>gets to where the word cosm comes from. It's where

0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:43.040
<v Speaker 1>cosmos meets the coliseum. And so being able to take

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<v Speaker 1>that same amazing core tech and apply it to that

0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:47.840
<v Speaker 1>live sports and entertainment opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, now that you're saying all those things takes me

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<v Speaker 3>to where I'm in North Carolina, man Charlotte, and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>go to the Vincent van Go experience and it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like you're in this whole room. They're going through

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<v Speaker 3>all these different things and they're pulling it all up

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<v Speaker 3>in And when I looked at you guys video, you

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<v Speaker 3>guys are like inside the ring octagon for M and

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<v Speaker 3>a fighter. And so give me that because the music

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<v Speaker 3>I think you guys is. Of course the texts way better,

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<v Speaker 3>but is it. Can you kind of draw the connection

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<v Speaker 3>for me or really disassociate the connection that I'm drawing

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<v Speaker 3>in my head?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what I want to say is what the immersive

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.520
<v Speaker 1>van go industry, it's called industry. It's location based entertainment

0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.320
<v Speaker 1>in the experience economy as a whole, right, it's booming.

0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:29.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean that is something that is done incredibly well,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's Van Go or Monet or.

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<v Speaker 2>They just pick it up in movies, yeah.

0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Or any of these different entertainment experiences. And it's about

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<v Speaker 1>this this convergence of art and science and all these

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<v Speaker 1>other genres with immersive technology. And we think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great baseline and it's and it's proven, there is a demand,

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<v Speaker 1>and what we focus on is how do we we

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<v Speaker 1>look at that consumer habit and then apply it to

0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:56.440
<v Speaker 1>live sports and merge that with fandom. And we treat

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<v Speaker 1>every patron like a fan and that could be a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of sport, but it calls me a phantom, music, science, art,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever may be. And our job is to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>our tech is the best in the world that can

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<v Speaker 1>then drive that experience and give them something an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>time and hopefully they spend time with us.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the goal.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone shares their time at COSM, then we're winning.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, that's what we try to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, the biggest differentiator is the live format and

0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:22.359
<v Speaker 1>the fact that we own all the tech stack and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of stuff around it, but it's an

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<v Speaker 1>exciting time.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short break and we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>right back. All right. So you've been a CEO for

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<v Speaker 2>what twelve fifteen years now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Oh yeah, from small companies to bigger ones. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>highs and lows and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>But I want to ask another question about that. But

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<v Speaker 3>how would you rate yourself? You talked about getting critiqued

0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 3>and all these other things. How do you critique yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>And how do you stay hungry? I mean, number one,

0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:53.639
<v Speaker 3>you got to feed everybody at your company too. But

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<v Speaker 3>tell me how do you what do you see yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you grade yourself? I'll put it in there,

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<v Speaker 3>give me the critique. Fifteen do you do? You have

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<v Speaker 3>it figured out? Are you a vet?

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<v Speaker 2>What like? Are you still like?

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still in the rookie Grind's great question? Man.

0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:09.960
<v Speaker 1>So look, in my first act as an AL player,

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be a Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just put it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my goal. I clearly missed, you know. And I

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<v Speaker 1>tell people on my team, I go, I got fired

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<v Speaker 1>for my dream job twice. Like they didn't casually let

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<v Speaker 1>me go and give me severance. They said, Jeb, you suck, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, And so as I try to think back

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<v Speaker 1>on kind of that experience those notes, the opportunities I

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 1>had there, you try to apply that scarcity to every

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity I have in the business world, right, And by

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:39.440
<v Speaker 1>doing that, I think you you understand that every opportunity

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>can be fleeting if you're not devoting your time, you

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<v Speaker 1>know your spirit and frankly, with with what we're building

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<v Speaker 1>at COSM, I got to give it everything I got,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I continue to mature as a CEO, I

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<v Speaker 1>try to learn along the way. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the being a CEO of a small startup that's doing

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a mobile video platform is very different than being the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO where I am now, which is to me be

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:02.439
<v Speaker 1>very different from them. We're a big public company and

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.440
<v Speaker 1>we're global and I've got venues all over the world, right,

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>And so look, it's it's I think I'm good at

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<v Speaker 1>my job. Let's say that I'm confident in my abilities.

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I have a long way to go to

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<v Speaker 1>improve and I try to bring on either team members

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<v Speaker 1>that work with me to help me get better and

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>fill my blind spots. Right, you can't be a master

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>of it all, and I do think from a team

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 1>building perspective, that's where I try to focus on and

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 1>excel on is building a team, Like, for example, I

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<v Speaker 1>have three stools in the business cosm, tech, cause of media,

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:37.880
<v Speaker 1>cousin venues. How many real divisions are on a football team, offense,

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the defense teams? Right, What makes us good at our

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>job is that corporate support staff, the training room, the

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<v Speaker 1>equipment room, all the guys that are out there helping

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<v Speaker 1>us be excellent at our job. Like I try to

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:54.400
<v Speaker 1>think of our corporate function as in making our stars

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 1>be their absolute best, right, that's my job. Set the vision,

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<v Speaker 1>resource the hell out of team, make sure they have

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<v Speaker 1>all the tools they need and then let them run

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>right and make sure we get that alignment. And we've

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 1>tried to set up the organization a little bit that way,

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, offensive coordinator, that's my head of venues, right,

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:13.479
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator that's my head of technologies. Right, special teams,

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.120
<v Speaker 1>that's my head of media. And you try to set

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that up that way. And you know, I don't know

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:19.679
<v Speaker 1>if you guys feel this, but when you look at

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 1>at a coaching staff and a coaching tree, you'll look

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:24.679
<v Speaker 1>at guys and be like, man, that guy's running the

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>organization like a CEO of a business. That's the best one.

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, He's he surrounded his staff

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 1>are all studs, you know what I'm saying. He's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those coordinators run they're all sudden. They let them run.

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:38.919
<v Speaker 1>They're not micromanage. And look, I don't want to be

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>over correlative Is that the word? Like correlate the experiences?

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<v Speaker 1>But that mattered to me, and and I think I

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>try to learn from that and apply that because people

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.400
<v Speaker 1>always ask, you know, what do you learn in football

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>that makes you good in the business world? Right? How

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 1>do you get from A to B? And you just

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>got to find those notes of performance teams and try

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<v Speaker 1>to bring it that way. And so long winded answer

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<v Speaker 1>man of saying I think I'm I think I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well. I think you do know I've got a

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:07.640
<v Speaker 1>long way to run. You know, I got a lot

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>to learn. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a pretty good football player at my university.

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<v Speaker 2>You were, you were okay at Alabama?

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<v Speaker 3>So I was, I was. I was pretty decent at

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<v Speaker 3>my team. And I never had an award named after me.

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<v Speaker 3>So can you tell can you can you tell the

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<v Speaker 3>people what the Jeb Terry Beast Mode Award is?

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Wow?

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>You know that that there's there's a lot of ways

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:27.879
<v Speaker 1>you can get an award named after. I like to

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 1>think it was all from my skill on the football field,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but look, it's it's I don't know if

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I had a reputation or not as an old linement there,

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 1>but I was an energetic, high energy guy. And you know,

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I was one of those guys that like to get

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>fired up before the game. And you know, I'm a

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm a helmet beater. I'm one of those guys. I'm

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>not a quiet guy in the corner salt and I'm

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 1>a helmet beater. I'm get him going.

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, some people like it, some dope, but that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>where it came from. I was pretty good in college,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I was able to do some good things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love Carolina. I love the tar Heels. And

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 1>by the way, expecting the big year from my guys,

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>they should. They got to win the first may sling it.

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 1>We got to win the first one.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to win the first one. I think that's

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 3>going to really talk about everything. The first game is

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 3>North Carolina versus South Carolina and Charlotte at Bank of

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 3>America Stadium. It's going to be a big one and

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 3>those teams, those two teams are not rivalries.

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 2>But they don't like you. Come on, they don't like

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 2>you. You know, you know.

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Look, we've got Sam Howe slinging it for the commanders now,

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<v Speaker 1>QB one, yes, right, Just gotta know that guy's a stud.

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Drake may now coming through. They're saying he's the best

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>in the nation. By the way. I don't know if

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.679
<v Speaker 1>you all ever met him yet, but impressive, impressive young man.

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 3>I watched him in high school at Myers Park. I

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 3>live in park right there in Charlotte. So yeah, y

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 3>all the way around. So we feel good about it

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 3>as tarhell fans excited about where it goes. You just, guys,

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 3>guys gonna get a couple of stops on defense.

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Tell me we looked a part. I'm going to tell

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you we've got some. We've got some four and five

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 1>stars out there.

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 3>You're halfway there, halfway there, were there looking the part.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Carolina blue is the best best color in the country.

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:04.160
<v Speaker 1>So if you guys can get behind me on that,

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>we can get along.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the blue.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna allow the blue is nice because they

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 3>call it Carolina. When you say Carolina who people know

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 3>that you know it.

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I agree. I mean, let's just be honest.

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 3>Look, Michael Jordan's related, Michael Jordan really helped you guys

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 3>outsell it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just be honest.

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>However he worked, Tell me all right, which one was harder?

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Being an all academic acc player football player his senior

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 3>year or putting up twenty seven reps at two twenty

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 3>five combin. I got nineteen. How did you get thirteen? Thirteen?

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 3>I got nineteen.

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I got more in the in my pro day. But

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<v Speaker 1>what's the official number? Yeah, thirty?

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 2>It has got to be at least thirty.

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did better in my pro day, but twas

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<v Speaker 1>seven at the combine. Hey, look, I y'all are gonna

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>laugh at this. I got a lot of sports fans

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>on our team, right, one of my my business vel

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>shut out Peter Murphy, head of our media group, now

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>killing it at the organization on an all hands, pulls

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 1>up my combine stats and presents it to the entireization,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was good across the board, have really short arms,

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>right for an old lineman. And that that was the knock.

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>And he gets on. He says, man, our CEO is

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>really good because he's got short arms. But no, I

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>will say, academics was always important to me. It was

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>always something instilled in my family to perform. Yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever I'm going to spend my time, do it well

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>type of thing, and it was important. And so I

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>will say when I went and got my NBA, though,

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>it changed from getting good grades to study and to

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>succeed in in in the real world. And that's a

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>different dynamic.

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Your mind's in a different place. It's in a different place.

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 3>When yeah, when you go back, you're in a totally

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 3>different place. You got to go back. I'm trying to

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 3>get him to go back and get his masks. So

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:53.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to tell him he don't want to do

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 3>I have a normal degree, Like, you don't want another one.

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't want you need to get one. You know

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 3>everybody experience you're going to do. We're going to continue

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 3>to keep this podcast movement and we're not gonna get

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 3>stuck in the US.

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Like, yes, you're right, I'll get on one shoulder.

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 3>You don't want to fight, you don't want to do

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 3>amazing race, you don't want to get your masters.

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>We want you to keep growing. I want.

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah, to take all

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 3>this like into consideration. Okay, keep your grades up, my man.

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 3>And uh, but I would say this, what made you

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 3>choose you know you're from Texas? Yeah, what made you

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 3>choose Chapel Hill over University of Texas Texas A and

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 3>m Sup Harve Because I heard you got it off.

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 1>It was the only ride I got, you know, unknown

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>guy coming out of high school. I showed up, you

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>know mech then's the summer camp matter? Yeah, you didn't

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>have all the recruiting stuff that's going on now. It's

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>hard to get known. I went to a military school

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>in Indiana for high school, and I always like Carolina

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, shout out Jordan for I'm telling you this

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>being a Texas kid knowing nout to Carolina Blue, and

0:30:58.440 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, let's go check it out near They

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 1>had a good bus in school and went to camp

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, who are you right? Like, where'd

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you come from? I go, well, I'm from Texas, but

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I played football at military school Indiana and it's basically

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>you want a scholarship type of thing, you know. I

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>was playing d line at the time, thought I was

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 1>an athlete. Still think I'm an athlete, but you know,

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>got pushed over. But yeah, and then you know, they

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>saw potential in me and they offered me, which was fantastic.

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>They gave me a shot to play d line when

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I came in, and I did my first year before

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I got hurt and loved every minute of it. And

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I looked at Texas. It would have been

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>great to go there. If they would have given me

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>a ride. It would have been a hard decision. Yeah

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>they didn't. You know, Harvard was fantastic, but I didn't

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>think it offered the football I wanted at the time,

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 1>even you know, and uh, I looked at Carolina being

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the best of both worlds. To be honest, I had

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a great business school again there top ten undergrad business school,

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>great brand. We were just coming off those years when

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>dray Bli was there. I mean we were, you know,

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>top five in the country. Mack was there just previously

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>before I went to Texas, so there was we were

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>still riding really high.

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 2>And the DC the Yeah, of course he coached me

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 2>in college.

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, coach coach forbus is the man.

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I love how you can yell get all angry and

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 3>never cursed, never cursed, never never.

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, you guys got them all call you meet yeah,

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>meet hey. Yeah, you know coach Horbus was there and

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot to love about Carolina.

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. Fortunate for the opportunity.

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 3>So tell me this before you ask your last question

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 3>or I know you're going to come off the dome

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 3>with something hot, So think about it for a second.

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 2>All right, I want to know this.

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 3>How many acquisitions have you had and how many exits

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 3>have you had? And what do I mean by that

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 3>is like how many businesses have you bought up and acquired?

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Always think this is an incredible stat This is like

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 3>looking on the back of your baseball car Yeah.

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 2>So, Jeff Terry, how.

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>About fired twice from his dream job? Yeah, let's get that.

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>That's the start fired twice dream job for the first

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>startup that we did. And you know my guy Ryan Nice,

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, yes, he's one best friend and co founder

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of the first business we did. Oh wow, so we

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>we we had we sold that business, went to Fox

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Sports and did it there started another business that was

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>a failure, flat out learned a lot from it, you

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Yeah, the partnership dynamic wasn't wasn't

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't right, and it didn't work out. And then with

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>his next business founded this other one, invested in a

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>number of businesses that did well between then and now,

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>and then recently have bought essentially three companies uh major acquisitions,

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>but with a few tuck ins underneath that as well,

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and have a few more to go. And look, we

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>have a big, big vision for this one man. This

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>is cosm. Is a we say, it's category defining, right,

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>It's these things where it is just a cosm. And

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I think we have an opportunity here to totally change

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the dynamic of the sports industry. And we're seeing the

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>industry tend to agree, which is exciting. You know, it's

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>been a lot of work, a whole lot of work,

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but this is a good one. I'm excited to hear

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>a lit more about that Mount Rushmore. Four presidents are

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>on this big mountain somewhere in the in the Dakotas.

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Since South Dakota, Oh, okay, South Dakota, I said, Dakota's well,

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>South Dakota. Now I'm just there. Will you let me Why?

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Why?

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Why is it cool? Thomas can I fire HNDS cool.

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.800
<v Speaker 3>It's like, hey, bigger than partnership.

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Is not working.

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Partnership is not working. This partnership is not working. You

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 3>keep cutting me off. Everything I pitched to you, you

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 3>you shoot it down. Oh my god, I need a

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 3>new partner. Look you come on, I need a new partner.

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:28.479
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, the Dakotas South Dakota. I've had people in my life.

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not self made. I've had a lot of people

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>like help me my failures.

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.919
<v Speaker 3>They've they've critiqued me, They've molded me, they've they've they've

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 3>shaped me.

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Who's on your personal mount rushmore?

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Man? Four people? That's a good question.

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Four people.

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Thanks.

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's off the cuffs of I don't even

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>any prep work for that either. That's that's one. You

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>gotta get a lot of.

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Thought about freestyle. Man, That's what I did.

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you have yours?

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I do, but I'm not on the hot seat. Yes

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I do.

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Look, uh one was my dad hundred percent, you know,

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 1>shape me. Influenced me a lot. And the other one's my mom. Yeah,

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's it's they were the yin and the

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 1>yang and and helped for me. Who I am? The good,

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 1>the bad. The in between all of it, you know,

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>really really drove me to pursuit of of where I

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>am now. Oh man, goodness, I'm just gonna throw my

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 1>wife on there too. It is she's the leader of

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>our family. You know, when I get home, I am

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>in her domain and and it's everything I can to

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>uh do what I can to help her as we

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>run our family. Right, they got three kids, and there's

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot going on, and then the fourth. I mean, goodness, gracious, guys, hmmm,

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to reserve the right to come back on

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:46.399
<v Speaker 1>that one. I don't know, offhands, there's no way we're

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>not letting you mean, I don't know that I can

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 1>do it. I don't know that I can do it.

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:52.479
<v Speaker 1>I've had a lot of great mentors. Man, you haven't

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:52.879
<v Speaker 1>been able.

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 3>You haven't lot lowed down yet since you've been old

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 3>the States, and all of a sudden said, it's a

0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 3>big one between those between the three I named.

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Stump, I've had some great coaches, some great mentors, some

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>great capital partners. There's been a you know, it's I've

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>been blessed to have a ton of people in my life.

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna put it one up don't.

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I think. I don't think that's fair to the others.

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, you might. You might have to be

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 2>make them out.

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>You might make it, but then his sisters are going

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:20.399
<v Speaker 1>to come out.

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 2>You know what did we go to?

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Man? I'n't be thinking about this all night, you guys.

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>You guys have got me give me yours?

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:29.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh mine?

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 3>It was it was my mom, my dad, my wife,

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 3>and then it was my my Actually my high school coach,

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 3>my high school coach, Bill Clark, because he really changed me.

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 3>He really taught me a lot of things early. Uh,

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 3>and everybody else. I mean I could pick a couple

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 3>professional coaches, but my high school coach really instilled in

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.360
<v Speaker 3>me a lot and uh for the like, I was

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 3>not even going to play football.

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like going to quit. Wow.

0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they just played basketball and he was like

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 3>you need to come back either.

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Like play. He came in and changed everything.

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 3>So for me, I was like not even about to

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 3>be the own basketball basketball Wow.

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 2>So basketball with the Carolina Blue Hey, rest a shirt rest.

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I am terrible at hoops. That guy though, He'll be

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, what about you, peanut?

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Mom dad, I'd say, mom, dad, wife And then a

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 3>good friend of mine. His name is John Wright. He

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 3>uh played played in the played football in the sixties,

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 3>turned business kind of like you, and he just really

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 3>helped me grow mentally, you know, mind control, not mind control,

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 3>just controlling my mind and just mental toughness and things

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 3>like that. So yeah, he great mentor for me. Helped me,

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, motivational speaker and all that. So yeah, those

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 3>are those are my four.

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, one of the things I missed the most.

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Now on the other side of the uh, in the

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>business world, you don't have coaches like you have in football.

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 1>You don't have Sometimes coaches are tough, right, but they're

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>telling you the plus minus yeah, and then how to

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>get better. And then you've got a team of people

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>that are here to help you get better.

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I mean versus like you're just

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 2>out there.

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 1>You're just out there, Like man, this sale cycle is along.

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like do I send another email?

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Close this deal? Yeah?

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:13.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, how do you react? And you know it's

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 1>it's you. You You miss it when you're out of it,

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>right when you're in it. Like, man, this dude is

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 1>on me, Like the step six inches that way is

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>not going to matter, but I would kill to have

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 1>someone telling them.

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 3>But that's the beauty of us, though, Like we run

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 3>toward criticism and that's what makes us who we are.

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 3>And that's why you're killing it right now. That's why

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 3>you're so successful in your second act right now, because

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 3>you're always looking to get better, You're always looking for

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 3>that criticism. But when you fail, it's like, Yo, what

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 3>list is that I learned? Because without failure, I can't

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 3>have success, right.

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Right, every every everyone I've ever had is like it's

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 1>a cliche, right, Like, there's a failure in everyone I

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>talk about. You know the Instagram line for every like, Hi,

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a you know what's the opposite of Instagram? You know,

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it's there's a there's a low point there every time. Yeah,

0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people miss that. And anyway, it's true

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>in football, and it's true in the business world, and

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:04.280
<v Speaker 1>it's true in all all walks.

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, Jeff Terry, you are the freaking man.

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Dog appreciate.

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to see COSM continue to blow up.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to see the arenas as you continue

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<v Speaker 3>to put them up all these places. I'm really really

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<v Speaker 3>looking forward to and I definite you in there. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if i'd be front row, but I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>standing in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready, we'll get you there.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to go?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see ready to go?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, anyways, man, thank you guys so much as always

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<v Speaker 3>tuning in right here on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Peanut. Good job. You know how to listen

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<v Speaker 2>and pay attention all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right anywhere you pick up your podcast, whether it's Apple podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks as always for tuning in.

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<v Speaker 3>Give us a rating five stars only five star rating.

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<v Speaker 3>Give us a review. Hit that button, follow man, tell

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<v Speaker 3>a friend to tell a friend to tell a friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff Taylor, you're off the hot seat, Peanut, get us

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<v Speaker 3>out of here on the dog.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm peanuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Willman.

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<v Speaker 3>There's someone waving at the window there. It is my god, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't hear it. You can't hear yeah, hey, but

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<v Speaker 3>yeah we just saw coach and yeah, I'm Peanut. Jeff Room,

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<v Speaker 3>my uncle were little Jebbie, Oh and little Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to get a cameo and a jump little cameo.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on the cary, come on here, turn around right here.

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<v Speaker 2>You getting right there, right there, right there, right there,

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking at decade.

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<v Speaker 1>There he is, I'm looking at camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, getting right over there. Oh yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>See boom, there we go. Five stars, say give him

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<v Speaker 1>five star.

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<v Speaker 2>Five stars, five stars. We'll see all later. Hey taking

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<v Speaker 2>players act? What up? How are us