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Speaker 1: This is Jeb Terry. This is Jebby and this is

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Speaker 1: the NFL Players Second Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Peanut too Mean and this is the NFL Players

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Speaker 2: Second Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 3: And with me, as always, my choice is Sidekick the

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Speaker 3: Deacon Roman harping us up.

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Speaker 2: Baby. I appreciate it. Thank you so much, Peanut.

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Speaker 3: That was actually a normal intro to me and I

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Speaker 3: appreciate that you don't ever do that. So with all

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Speaker 3: will answer all your questions.

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Speaker 2: Peanut. Who we got today? We got a going guys.

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Speaker 2: He was in the two thousd and for.

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Speaker 3: Draft, drafted by Tampa Bay, played three seasons. He's killing

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Speaker 3: it in the business for it. He's a tech guru.

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Speaker 3: That's why he's the ero CEO of COSM. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: please welcome to the show podcast. Jeb Terry.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I got to be here.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 3: You know what I like about Jeb is that the

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Speaker 3: moment he sat down, he said, Okay, who do I

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Speaker 3: gotta beat?

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Speaker 2: All right, just get it. Petition is the one who

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Speaker 2: we beating. Who I gotta be Who's at the top

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Speaker 2: of the show.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what we're running for, right.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: You gotta find competition.

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Speaker 2: Man, Hey, I like it. I like it. I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Where are you from? I'm here some some that that accident?

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Speaker 3: What what what is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, grew up in Dallas, Texas, and so

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Speaker 2: my god, you know part of Dallas? What part of Dallas?

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Speaker 1: Just North Dallas in area up there, proper group in Lakewood. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm a Carpers Cove Waco Temple there is. I'm a

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Speaker 1: Central Texas, Yeah, Passes. That place has changed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's a lot booming right, Yeah, Yeah that's me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a Texas has the best football room. They go

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Speaker 2: sign that for sure. We're killing Alabama high school football.

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Speaker 1: No chance, Florida, get out of here. In California, get

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Speaker 3: The only thing Calabama y'all doing right now is like

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Speaker 3: fighting on riverboats.

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Speaker 2: That's all y'all got right now. That's all y'all doing.

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Speaker 1: We didn't realize this was what was going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I'm here for We.

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Speaker 2: Will accept that. We will openly accept that. Now.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you this, as far as high school

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Speaker 3: football is concerned in Texas, and I listened to all

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Speaker 3: the scouts from ESPN and the people I work with

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Speaker 3: on my SEC nation and network, they say, you know what,

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Speaker 3: They're going to kind of be that they're kind of

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Speaker 3: same thing since like sixth grade. Versus Florida, some other

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Speaker 3: athletes from other places, they probably have a bigger runway

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Speaker 3: I'm coming from Carolina, where the ceiling is the roof. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: competition is real from day one, Yes it is. And

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Speaker 3: you're playing quick. Yeah, you're playing it like Pop Warner,

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Speaker 3: Like you guys are tackling early, like they're out there

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Speaker 1: This is what's going I didn't play that early, but

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Speaker 2: We love to know. What was your first welcome to

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Speaker 1: The Bucks drafted me right coming off that that Super

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Speaker 1: The guys I've been watching, all these guys have been

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Speaker 1: And I was at Old One Buck when we were there,

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Speaker 2: NFL, it's better. No.

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Speaker 1: Old One Buck was not that, But man, a lot

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Speaker 1: the practices were intense because the guys were all pros.

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Speaker 1: Everyone on that team was a pro. Same and Rice,

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Speaker 1: Ron Day, Booger, McFarlane, all stot, I mean, just.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me.

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Speaker 1: We had Ron Day and then you had you know,

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Speaker 1: Gruden was the coach, and he had you know, guys

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Speaker 1: like Ron Middleton, tight ends coach Morris, you know those

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh, you're like these guys that coaching trees. Wow.

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Speaker 1: You looking around the NFL right now and these guys

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Speaker 2: Scale, really big scale.

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Speaker 1: And that that that team, the coaching staff, everybody came

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Speaker 1: it was awesome to be part of that organization.

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Speaker 3: Now, your career ended a little short. Low, Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: Like what was your what was your best memory was

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Speaker 2: of your I.

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Speaker 1: Will say on an intro we said three years, I

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Speaker 3: Apologize, Yeah yeah, I apologie.

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Speaker 2: However you get there? Does that?

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Speaker 1: I know I had one which I had gotten heard

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Speaker 1: and did the whole injury settlement thing that when I

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Speaker 1: it was pretty obvious when they cut me. It's one

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Speaker 2: To talk to you.

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, I get it right. It's that's

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Speaker 1: actually one of the things I missed about playing football

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Speaker 1: Ye, it's clear, and it was. It was pretty clear

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Speaker 1: to me, and I tried to hang on for a

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Speaker 1: and wasn't a good enough position to apply to a

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Speaker 1: few schools, And it was kind of had to make

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Speaker 2: Went back to Hill, did I did?

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Speaker 1: I went back to Chapel. I looked a lot of places,

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Speaker 3: And so you're the CEO of your company, cause them

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Speaker 3: and I want you to be able to share with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even try it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good. It's one of those things where you go

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Speaker 1: to like an event or cocktail party and someone asked,

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Speaker 1: what do you do? Yeah, you know, you don't even

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Speaker 1: want to tell them. Sometime that's gonna take a while.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, This makes me feel a lot better. Now.

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Speaker 1: Look what we're what we're setting out to do is

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Speaker 1: the most incredible fan viewing experience I think to ever

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Speaker 1: around this office as well and learned a lot from them,

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Speaker 1: and then moved on, Oh, you're.

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Speaker 3: Definitely hamming it up with all the guys earlier. This

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Speaker 3: is where you know all of them from.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some stuffing, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's like combining

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Speaker 1: super kind of advanced technology that's happening. That's you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't going to be seeing for

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Speaker 1: a number of years, but it's combining that to super

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Speaker 1: serve the fan and give them that all access seat

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So everyone has heard about virtual reality and how you

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Speaker 1: the game, right, And you can do that and it's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool, but you miss the energy, the vibe, the

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Speaker 1: A cosm, is why I leverage all that technology to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. You got this experience growing pretty

439
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Speaker 2: quickly though just from the video you've seen, like I

440
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Speaker 2: I assume you you expect tremendous growth pretty quickly with

441
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Speaker 2: with what would you.

442
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Speaker 1: Just Yeah, we're we're excited about it. So we're opening

443
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Speaker 1: to next year. We have big ambitions. We're going to

444
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,720
Speaker 1: be announcing a few more sites later this year, a

445
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,639
Speaker 1: few more league partners, some broadcast partners, and and so

446
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,879
Speaker 1: the momentum is real. And one of the things I

447
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,879
Speaker 1: like to talk about with our company is, you know,

448
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 1: when you deal in the in the in the business

449
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,919
Speaker 1: or the tech world, you know there's not everyone's been

450
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 1: on a team, and not everyone knows how important momentum

451
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,320
Speaker 1: can be. You know, when you're on a winning streak, right,

452
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Speaker 1: how do you capture it? How do you keep it?

453
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Speaker 1: How do you keep everybody juiced up? And that's that's

454
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Speaker 1: what we try to do here every time we every

455
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Speaker 1: time we get a win, you got to celebrate that

456
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Speaker 1: win definitely, and then forget it and get to the

457
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Speaker 1: next one, you know what I mean. And so we

458
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Speaker 1: we just try to keep that momentum going. We've got

459
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Speaker 1: it now, we've got the juice and we're trying to

460
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Speaker 1: just maintain it.

461
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Speaker 2: Right now, Do you have any plans to do anything international?

462
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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. We look at the international markets, especially

463
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Speaker 1: with the distribution from US based sports internationally a lot

464
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Speaker 1: of interest. Right. We've got the NFL over in London

465
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Speaker 1: and the rest of Europe and all the interests there.

466
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Speaker 1: You've got the NBA going globally as well, and then

467
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Speaker 1: in Germany too. In Germany it's a it's a it's

468
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Speaker 1: a big spot. And then additionally you have international sport

469
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Speaker 1: coming here, right, whether it's Premier League, Champions League, you

470
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Speaker 1: look at cricket, that's a massive sport.

471
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Speaker 2: Crazy.

472
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Speaker 1: It's an amazing day part for us too, right because

473
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Speaker 1: those usually on different hours where you don't have prime

474
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Speaker 1: time US sports, and so internationally is part of our footprint.

475
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Speaker 1: One of the companies we acquired, actually it's going to

476
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Speaker 1: be weird, is the biggest planetarium company in the world.

477
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Speaker 1: So we power over seven hundred planetariums globally. We have

478
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Speaker 1: forty two in China, and so part of our core

479
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Speaker 1: business is delivering that. If you saw that video, you

480
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Speaker 1: see where that heritage comes into play, and it's all

481
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Speaker 1: that expertise that they have in that space. And that

482
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Speaker 1: gets to where the word cosm comes from. It's where

483
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Speaker 1: cosmos meets the coliseum. And so being able to take

484
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Speaker 1: that same amazing core tech and apply it to that

485
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Speaker 1: live sports and entertainment opportunity.

486
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Speaker 3: Now, now that you're saying all those things takes me

487
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Speaker 3: to where I'm in North Carolina, man Charlotte, and I'll

488
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Speaker 3: go to the Vincent van Go experience and it's kind

489
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Speaker 3: of like you're in this whole room. They're going through

490
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Speaker 3: all these different things and they're pulling it all up

491
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Speaker 3: in And when I looked at you guys video, you

492
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Speaker 3: guys are like inside the ring octagon for M and

493
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Speaker 3: a fighter. And so give me that because the music

494
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Speaker 3: I think you guys is. Of course the texts way better,

495
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Speaker 3: but is it. Can you kind of draw the connection

496
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Speaker 3: for me or really disassociate the connection that I'm drawing

497
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Speaker 3: in my head?

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Speaker 1: Well, what I want to say is what the immersive

499
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Speaker 1: van go industry, it's called industry. It's location based entertainment

500
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Speaker 1: in the experience economy as a whole, right, it's booming.

501
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 1: I mean that is something that is done incredibly well,

502
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Speaker 1: whether it's Van Go or Monet or.

503
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Speaker 2: They just pick it up in movies, yeah.

504
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Speaker 1: Or any of these different entertainment experiences. And it's about

505
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Speaker 1: this this convergence of art and science and all these

506
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Speaker 1: other genres with immersive technology. And we think it's a

507
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Speaker 1: great baseline and it's and it's proven, there is a demand,

508
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Speaker 1: and what we focus on is how do we we

509
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Speaker 1: look at that consumer habit and then apply it to

510
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Speaker 1: live sports and merge that with fandom. And we treat

511
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Speaker 1: every patron like a fan and that could be a

512
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Speaker 1: fan of sport, but it calls me a phantom, music, science, art,

513
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Speaker 1: whatever may be. And our job is to make sure

514
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Speaker 1: our tech is the best in the world that can

515
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Speaker 1: then drive that experience and give them something an amazing

516
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Speaker 1: time and hopefully they spend time with us.

517
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Speaker 2: That's the goal.

518
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Speaker 1: If someone shares their time at COSM, then we're winning.

519
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Speaker 1: And then you know, that's what we try to do.

520
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Speaker 1: And again, the biggest differentiator is the live format and

521
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Speaker 1: the fact that we own all the tech stack and

522
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff around it, but it's an

523
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Speaker 1: exciting time.

524
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Speaker 2: We're going to take a short break and we'll be

525
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Speaker 2: right back. All right. So you've been a CEO for

526
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Speaker 2: what twelve fifteen years now?

527
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, from small companies to bigger ones. Yeah,

528
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Speaker 1: highs and lows and everything.

529
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Speaker 3: But I want to ask another question about that. But

530
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Speaker 3: how would you rate yourself? You talked about getting critiqued

531
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Speaker 3: and all these other things. How do you critique yourself?

532
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Speaker 3: And how do you stay hungry? I mean, number one,

533
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Speaker 3: you got to feed everybody at your company too. But

534
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Speaker 3: tell me how do you what do you see yourself?

535
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Speaker 3: How do you grade yourself? I'll put it in there,

536
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Speaker 3: give me the critique. Fifteen do you do? You have

537
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Speaker 3: it figured out? Are you a vet?

538
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Speaker 2: What like? Are you still like?

539
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Speaker 1: Man?

540
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Speaker 2: I'm still in the rookie Grind's great question? Man.

541
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Speaker 1: So look, in my first act as an AL player,

542
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Speaker 1: I wanted to be a Hall of Famer.

543
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just put it out there.

544
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Speaker 1: That's my goal. I clearly missed, you know. And I

545
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: tell people on my team, I go, I got fired

546
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: for my dream job twice. Like they didn't casually let

547
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Speaker 1: me go and give me severance. They said, Jeb, you suck, right,

548
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Speaker 1: I mean, And so as I try to think back

549
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Speaker 1: on kind of that experience those notes, the opportunities I

550
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Speaker 1: had there, you try to apply that scarcity to every

551
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Speaker 1: opportunity I have in the business world, right, And by

552
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Speaker 1: doing that, I think you you understand that every opportunity

553
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: can be fleeting if you're not devoting your time, you

554
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Speaker 1: know your spirit and frankly, with with what we're building

555
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Speaker 1: at COSM, I got to give it everything I got,

556
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Speaker 1: and as I continue to mature as a CEO, I

557
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: try to learn along the way. I mean, you know,

558
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Speaker 1: the being a CEO of a small startup that's doing

559
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Speaker 1: a mobile video platform is very different than being the

560
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Speaker 1: CEO where I am now, which is to me be

561
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Speaker 1: very different from them. We're a big public company and

562
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Speaker 1: we're global and I've got venues all over the world, right,

563
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Speaker 1: And so look, it's it's I think I'm good at

564
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Speaker 1: my job. Let's say that I'm confident in my abilities.

565
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Speaker 1: I think I have a long way to go to

566
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Speaker 1: improve and I try to bring on either team members

567
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Speaker 1: that work with me to help me get better and

568
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: fill my blind spots. Right, you can't be a master

569
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Speaker 1: of it all, and I do think from a team

570
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: building perspective, that's where I try to focus on and

571
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Speaker 1: excel on is building a team, Like, for example, I

572
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Speaker 1: have three stools in the business cosm, tech, cause of media,

573
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Speaker 1: cousin venues. How many real divisions are on a football team, offense,

574
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Speaker 1: the defense teams? Right, What makes us good at our

575
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: job is that corporate support staff, the training room, the

576
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Speaker 1: equipment room, all the guys that are out there helping

577
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Speaker 1: us be excellent at our job. Like I try to

578
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: think of our corporate function as in making our stars

579
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Speaker 1: be their absolute best, right, that's my job. Set the vision,

580
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Speaker 1: resource the hell out of team, make sure they have

581
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: all the tools they need and then let them run

582
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Speaker 1: right and make sure we get that alignment. And we've

583
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Speaker 1: tried to set up the organization a little bit that way,

584
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Speaker 1: Like you know, offensive coordinator, that's my head of venues, right,

585
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator that's my head of technologies. Right, special teams,

586
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: that's my head of media. And you try to set

587
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Speaker 1: that up that way. And you know, I don't know

588
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: if you guys feel this, but when you look at

589
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: at a coaching staff and a coaching tree, you'll look

590
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Speaker 1: at guys and be like, man, that guy's running the

591
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: organization like a CEO of a business. That's the best one.

592
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, He's he surrounded his staff

593
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: are all studs, you know what I'm saying. He's one

594
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Speaker 1: of those coordinators run they're all sudden. They let them run.

595
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: They're not micromanage. And look, I don't want to be

596
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: over correlative Is that the word? Like correlate the experiences?

597
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Speaker 1: But that mattered to me, and and I think I

598
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: try to learn from that and apply that because people

599
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: always ask, you know, what do you learn in football

600
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: that makes you good in the business world? Right? How

601
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: do you get from A to B? And you just

602
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: got to find those notes of performance teams and try

603
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Speaker 1: to bring it that way. And so long winded answer

604
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Speaker 1: man of saying I think I'm I think I'm doing

605
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Speaker 1: pretty well. I think you do know I've got a

606
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: long way to run. You know, I got a lot

607
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Speaker 1: to learn. Now.

608
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Speaker 2: I was a pretty good football player at my university.

609
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Speaker 2: You were, you were okay at Alabama?

610
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Speaker 3: So I was, I was. I was pretty decent at

611
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Speaker 3: my team. And I never had an award named after me.

612
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Speaker 3: So can you tell can you can you tell the

613
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Speaker 3: people what the Jeb Terry Beast Mode Award is?

614
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: Wow?

615
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: You know that that there's there's a lot of ways

616
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Speaker 1: you can get an award named after. I like to

617
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Speaker 1: think it was all from my skill on the football field,

618
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Speaker 1: you know, but look, it's it's I don't know if

619
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Speaker 1: I had a reputation or not as an old linement there,

620
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Speaker 1: but I was an energetic, high energy guy. And you know,

621
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Speaker 1: I was one of those guys that like to get

622
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Speaker 1: fired up before the game. And you know, I'm a

623
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Speaker 1: I'm a helmet beater. I'm one of those guys. I'm

624
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Speaker 1: not a quiet guy in the corner salt and I'm

625
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Speaker 1: a helmet beater. I'm get him going.

626
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Speaker 2: You know.

627
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: Uh, some people like it, some dope, but that's probably

628
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Speaker 1: where it came from. I was pretty good in college,

629
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Speaker 1: you know. I was able to do some good things.

630
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: And I love Carolina. I love the tar Heels. And

631
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: by the way, expecting the big year from my guys,

632
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: they should. They got to win the first may sling it.

633
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: We got to win the first one.

634
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: You've got to win the first one. I think that's

635
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 3: going to really talk about everything. The first game is

636
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Speaker 3: North Carolina versus South Carolina and Charlotte at Bank of

637
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Speaker 3: America Stadium. It's going to be a big one and

638
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 3: those teams, those two teams are not rivalries.

639
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 2: But they don't like you. Come on, they don't like

640
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: you. You know, you know.

641
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: Look, we've got Sam Howe slinging it for the commanders now,

642
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: QB one, yes, right, Just gotta know that guy's a stud.

643
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: Drake may now coming through. They're saying he's the best

644
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: in the nation. By the way. I don't know if

645
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: you all ever met him yet, but impressive, impressive young man.

646
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Speaker 3: I watched him in high school at Myers Park. I

647
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: live in park right there in Charlotte. So yeah, y

648
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 3: all the way around. So we feel good about it

649
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: as tarhell fans excited about where it goes. You just, guys,

650
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 3: guys gonna get a couple of stops on defense.

651
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Speaker 1: Tell me we looked a part. I'm going to tell

652
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: you we've got some. We've got some four and five

653
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: stars out there.

654
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: You're halfway there, halfway there, were there looking the part.

655
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: I don't know.

656
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: Carolina blue is the best best color in the country.

657
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: So if you guys can get behind me on that,

658
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: we can get along.

659
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: I like the blue.

660
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna allow the blue is nice because they

661
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 3: call it Carolina. When you say Carolina who people know

662
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: that you know it.

663
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: I agree. I mean, let's just be honest.

664
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: Look, Michael Jordan's related, Michael Jordan really helped you guys

665
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: outsell it all.

666
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: Let's just be honest.

667
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: Man.

668
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: However he worked, Tell me all right, which one was harder?

669
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: Being an all academic acc player football player his senior

670
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 3: year or putting up twenty seven reps at two twenty

671
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: five combin. I got nineteen. How did you get thirteen? Thirteen?

672
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: I got nineteen.

673
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: I got more in the in my pro day. But

674
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: what's the official number? Yeah, thirty?

675
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: It has got to be at least thirty.

676
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did better in my pro day, but twas

677
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: seven at the combine. Hey, look, I y'all are gonna

678
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: laugh at this. I got a lot of sports fans

679
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: on our team, right, one of my my business vel

680
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: shut out Peter Murphy, head of our media group, now

681
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: killing it at the organization on an all hands, pulls

682
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: up my combine stats and presents it to the entireization,

683
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: and I was good across the board, have really short arms,

684
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: right for an old lineman. And that that was the knock.

685
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: And he gets on. He says, man, our CEO is

686
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: really good because he's got short arms. But no, I

687
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: will say, academics was always important to me. It was

688
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: always something instilled in my family to perform. Yes, you know,

689
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: wherever I'm going to spend my time, do it well

690
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: type of thing, and it was important. And so I

691
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: will say when I went and got my NBA, though,

692
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: it changed from getting good grades to study and to

693
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: succeed in in in the real world. And that's a

694
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: different dynamic.

695
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: Your mind's in a different place. It's in a different place.

696
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: When yeah, when you go back, you're in a totally

697
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: different place. You got to go back. I'm trying to

698
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: get him to go back and get his masks. So

699
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell him he don't want to do

700
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: I have a normal degree, Like, you don't want another one.

701
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: I don't want you need to get one. You know

702
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: everybody experience you're going to do. We're going to continue

703
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: to keep this podcast movement and we're not gonna get

704
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: stuck in the US.

705
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: Like, yes, you're right, I'll get on one shoulder.

706
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: You don't want to fight, you don't want to do

707
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: amazing race, you don't want to get your masters.

708
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: We want you to keep growing. I want.

709
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah, to take all

710
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: this like into consideration. Okay, keep your grades up, my man.

711
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: And uh, but I would say this, what made you

712
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: choose you know you're from Texas? Yeah, what made you

713
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: choose Chapel Hill over University of Texas Texas A and

714
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: m Sup Harve Because I heard you got it off.

715
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: It was the only ride I got, you know, unknown

716
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: guy coming out of high school. I showed up, you

717
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: know mech then's the summer camp matter? Yeah, you didn't

718
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: have all the recruiting stuff that's going on now. It's

719
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: hard to get known. I went to a military school

720
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: in Indiana for high school, and I always like Carolina

721
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: I mean, shout out Jordan for I'm telling you this

722
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: being a Texas kid knowing nout to Carolina Blue, and

723
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: I was like, let's go check it out near They

724
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: had a good bus in school and went to camp

725
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: and they were like, who are you right? Like, where'd

726
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: you come from? I go, well, I'm from Texas, but

727
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: I played football at military school Indiana and it's basically

728
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: you want a scholarship type of thing, you know. I

729
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: was playing d line at the time, thought I was

730
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: an athlete. Still think I'm an athlete, but you know,

731
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: got pushed over. But yeah, and then you know, they

732
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: saw potential in me and they offered me, which was fantastic.

733
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: They gave me a shot to play d line when

734
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: I came in, and I did my first year before

735
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: I got hurt and loved every minute of it. And

736
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, I looked at Texas. It would have been

737
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: great to go there. If they would have given me

738
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: a ride. It would have been a hard decision. Yeah

739
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: they didn't. You know, Harvard was fantastic, but I didn't

740
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: think it offered the football I wanted at the time,

741
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: even you know, and uh, I looked at Carolina being

742
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: the best of both worlds. To be honest, I had

743
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: a great business school again there top ten undergrad business school,

744
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: great brand. We were just coming off those years when

745
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: dray Bli was there. I mean we were, you know,

746
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: top five in the country. Mack was there just previously

747
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: before I went to Texas, so there was we were

748
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: still riding really high.

749
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: And the DC the Yeah, of course he coached me

750
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: in college.

751
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, coach coach forbus is the man.

752
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: I love how you can yell get all angry and

753
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: never cursed, never cursed, never never.

754
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you guys got them all call you meet yeah,

755
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: meet hey. Yeah, you know coach Horbus was there and

756
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, a lot to love about Carolina.

757
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Fortunate for the opportunity.

758
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: So tell me this before you ask your last question

759
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: or I know you're going to come off the dome

760
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: with something hot, So think about it for a second.

761
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: All right, I want to know this.

762
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: How many acquisitions have you had and how many exits

763
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: have you had? And what do I mean by that

764
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 3: is like how many businesses have you bought up and acquired?

765
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: Always think this is an incredible stat This is like

766
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: looking on the back of your baseball car Yeah.

767
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: So, Jeff Terry, how.

768
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: About fired twice from his dream job? Yeah, let's get that.

769
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: That's the start fired twice dream job for the first

770
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: startup that we did. And you know my guy Ryan Nice,

771
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, yes, he's one best friend and co founder

772
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: of the first business we did. Oh wow, so we

773
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: we we had we sold that business, went to Fox

774
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: Sports and did it there started another business that was

775
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: a failure, flat out learned a lot from it, you

776
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, the partnership dynamic wasn't wasn't

777
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: wasn't right, and it didn't work out. And then with

778
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: his next business founded this other one, invested in a

779
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: number of businesses that did well between then and now,

780
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: and then recently have bought essentially three companies uh major acquisitions,

781
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: but with a few tuck ins underneath that as well,

782
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: and have a few more to go. And look, we

783
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: have a big, big vision for this one man. This

784
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: is cosm. Is a we say, it's category defining, right,

785
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: It's these things where it is just a cosm. And

786
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: I think we have an opportunity here to totally change

787
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: the dynamic of the sports industry. And we're seeing the

788
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: industry tend to agree, which is exciting. You know, it's

789
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: been a lot of work, a whole lot of work,

790
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: but this is a good one. I'm excited to hear

791
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: a lit more about that Mount Rushmore. Four presidents are

792
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: on this big mountain somewhere in the in the Dakotas.

793
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: Since South Dakota, Oh, okay, South Dakota, I said, Dakota's well,

794
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: South Dakota. Now I'm just there. Will you let me Why?

795
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: Why?

796
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: Why is it cool? Thomas can I fire HNDS cool.

797
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, bigger than partnership.

798
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: Is not working.

799
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: Partnership is not working. This partnership is not working. You

800
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 3: keep cutting me off. Everything I pitched to you, you

801
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: you shoot it down. Oh my god, I need a

802
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: new partner. Look you come on, I need a new partner.

803
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

804
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 1: Anyway, the Dakotas South Dakota. I've had people in my life.

805
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm not self made. I've had a lot of people

806
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: like help me my failures.

807
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 3: They've they've critiqued me, They've molded me, they've they've they've

808
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: shaped me.

809
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: Who's on your personal mount rushmore?

810
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: Oh?

811
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: Man? Four people? That's a good question.

812
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: Four people.

813
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: Thanks.

814
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: I mean, that's off the cuffs of I don't even

815
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: any prep work for that either. That's that's one. You

816
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: gotta get a lot of.

817
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: Thought about freestyle. Man, That's what I did.

818
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: Do you have yours?

819
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: I do, but I'm not on the hot seat. Yes

820
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: I do.

821
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: Look, uh one was my dad hundred percent, you know,

822
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: shape me. Influenced me a lot. And the other one's my mom. Yeah,

823
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: I mean, there's it's they were the yin and the

824
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: yang and and helped for me. Who I am? The good,

825
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: the bad. The in between all of it, you know,

826
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: really really drove me to pursuit of of where I

827
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: am now. Oh man, goodness, I'm just gonna throw my

828
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: wife on there too. It is she's the leader of

829
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: our family. You know, when I get home, I am

830
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: in her domain and and it's everything I can to

831
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: uh do what I can to help her as we

832
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: run our family. Right, they got three kids, and there's

833
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: a lot going on, and then the fourth. I mean, goodness, gracious, guys, hmmm,

834
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to reserve the right to come back on

835
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: that one. I don't know, offhands, there's no way we're

836
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: not letting you mean, I don't know that I can

837
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: do it. I don't know that I can do it.

838
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,479
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of great mentors. Man, you haven't

839
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: been able.

840
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: You haven't lot lowed down yet since you've been old

841
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: the States, and all of a sudden said, it's a

842
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: big one between those between the three I named.

843
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: Stump, I've had some great coaches, some great mentors, some

844
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: great capital partners. There's been a you know, it's I've

845
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: been blessed to have a ton of people in my life.

846
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: You're not gonna put it one up don't.

847
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: I think. I don't think that's fair to the others.

848
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you might. You might have to be

849
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: make them out.

850
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: You might make it, but then his sisters are going

851
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: to come out.

852
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: You know what did we go to?

853
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: Man? I'n't be thinking about this all night, you guys.

854
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: You guys have got me give me yours?

855
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: Oh mine?

856
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: It was it was my mom, my dad, my wife,

857
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: and then it was my my Actually my high school coach,

858
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 3: my high school coach, Bill Clark, because he really changed me.

859
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: He really taught me a lot of things early. Uh,

860
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: and everybody else. I mean I could pick a couple

861
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: professional coaches, but my high school coach really instilled in

862
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 3: me a lot and uh for the like, I was

863
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: not even going to play football.

864
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: I was like going to quit. Wow.

865
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they just played basketball and he was like

866
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: you need to come back either.

867
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 2: Like play. He came in and changed everything.

868
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: So for me, I was like not even about to

869
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: be the own basketball basketball Wow.

870
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: So basketball with the Carolina Blue Hey, rest a shirt rest.

871
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: I am terrible at hoops. That guy though, He'll be

872
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Speaker 1: all right, all right, what about you, peanut?

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Speaker 3: Mom dad, I'd say, mom, dad, wife And then a

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00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: good friend of mine. His name is John Wright. He

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00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: uh played played in the played football in the sixties,

876
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: turned business kind of like you, and he just really

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00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: helped me grow mentally, you know, mind control, not mind control,

878
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: just controlling my mind and just mental toughness and things

879
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 3: like that. So yeah, he great mentor for me. Helped me,

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00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 3: you know, motivational speaker and all that. So yeah, those

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Speaker 3: are those are my four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, one of the things I missed the most.

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Speaker 1: Now on the other side of the uh, in the

884
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: business world, you don't have coaches like you have in football.

885
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Speaker 1: You don't have Sometimes coaches are tough, right, but they're

886
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: telling you the plus minus yeah, and then how to

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00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: get better. And then you've got a team of people

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00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: that are here to help you get better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean versus like you're just

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Speaker 2: out there.

891
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: You're just out there, Like man, this sale cycle is along.

892
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: It's like do I send another email?

893
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: Close this deal? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know, how do you react? And you know it's

895
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Speaker 1: it's you. You You miss it when you're out of it,

896
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: right when you're in it. Like, man, this dude is

897
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: on me, Like the step six inches that way is

898
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: not going to matter, but I would kill to have

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Speaker 1: someone telling them.

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Speaker 3: But that's the beauty of us, though, Like we run

901
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: toward criticism and that's what makes us who we are.

902
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: And that's why you're killing it right now. That's why

903
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: you're so successful in your second act right now, because

904
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: you're always looking to get better, You're always looking for

905
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: that criticism. But when you fail, it's like, Yo, what

906
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: list is that I learned? Because without failure, I can't

907
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: have success, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, every every everyone I've ever had is like it's

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00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: a cliche, right, Like, there's a failure in everyone I

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00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: talk about. You know the Instagram line for every like, Hi,

911
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: there's a you know what's the opposite of Instagram? You know,

912
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: it's it's there's a there's a low point there every time. Yeah,

913
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people miss that. And anyway, it's true

914
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: in football, and it's true in the business world, and

915
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: it's true in all all walks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Jeff Terry, you are the freaking man.

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Speaker 2: Dog appreciate.

918
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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see COSM continue to blow up.

919
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see the arenas as you continue

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00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 3: to put them up all these places. I'm really really

921
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: looking forward to and I definite you in there. I

922
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Speaker 3: don't know if i'd be front row, but I'll be

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Speaker 3: standing in there.

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00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: Ready, we'll get you there.

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Speaker 2: Want to go?

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Speaker 1: I want to go.

927
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Speaker 2: I want to see ready to go?

928
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Speaker 3: Well, anyways, man, thank you guys so much as always

929
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Speaker 3: tuning in right here on this one.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Peanut. Good job. You know how to listen

931
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: and pay attention all.

932
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Speaker 3: Right anywhere you pick up your podcast, whether it's Apple podcast,

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thanks as always for tuning in.

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Speaker 3: Give us a rating five stars only five star rating.

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Speaker 3: Give us a review. Hit that button, follow man, tell

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Speaker 3: a friend to tell a friend to tell a friend.

938
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Speaker 3: Jeff Taylor, you're off the hot seat, Peanut, get us

939
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Speaker 3: out of here on the dog.

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Speaker 2: I'm peanuts.

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Speaker 1: Willman.

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Speaker 3: There's someone waving at the window there. It is my god, right,

943
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Speaker 3: I can't hear it. You can't hear yeah, hey, but

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Speaker 3: yeah we just saw coach and yeah, I'm Peanut. Jeff Room,

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Speaker 3: my uncle were little Jebbie, Oh and little Jeff.

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Speaker 1: You want to get a cameo and a jump little cameo.

947
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Speaker 2: Come on the cary, come on here, turn around right here.

948
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Speaker 2: You getting right there, right there, right there, right there,

949
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Speaker 2: we're looking at decade.

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Speaker 1: There he is, I'm looking at camera.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, getting right over there. Oh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: See boom, there we go. Five stars, say give him

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Speaker 1: five star.

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Speaker 2: Five stars, five stars. We'll see all later. Hey taking

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Speaker 2: players act? What up? How are us