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Speaker 1: presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now,
Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon
Speaker 1: Gross way back. What's the baby? Let's go? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: hadn't been the same without seeing you guys every week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: follow us? What's up? I don't even remember how this works.
Speaker 1: This may be a total disaster. Well, I mean every
Speaker 1: show disaster, but this may be worst than normal. Nate,
Speaker 1: how you doing? Brother? Now? I'm doing fantastic. You know
Speaker 1: what I am? When when when Kurt starts the show
Speaker 1: with more energy than you, we gotta I'm fantastic. I'm
Speaker 1: too fatastic for us. He was hanging out yesterday with
Speaker 1: his boy. You know what I'm saying yesterday, He's too
Speaker 1: good for us. Nah, brother, I'm I'm pump brother. I'm
Speaker 1: just waiting to see what you gonna bring is you
Speaker 1: got a baby, you got you brought us wings stop,
Speaker 1: So I'm just excited about you. I want to I
Speaker 1: want to I wanna before we get going, I want
Speaker 1: to address the elephant in the room, and I mean
Speaker 1: literally the elephant in the room. I am. I am
Speaker 1: broadcasting live from my born sons bedroom here in Frisco,
Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage playroom. Yes, I had the graft
Speaker 1: in the room. The draft. Well, I just I just
Speaker 1: zoomed in on the elephants. You probably didn't see that,
Speaker 1: but that's that's his crib. So yes, a week ago Tuesday,
Speaker 1: I am now the proud owner of a baby boy
Speaker 1: that we brought home from the hospital on Saturday night.
Speaker 1: And surprisingly, I've been getting a decent amount of sleep
Speaker 1: about in three hour increments. Every three hours. We wake up,
Speaker 1: we eat, we go to the bathroom, and we go
Speaker 1: back to sleep, and we do it all over again.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, I'm I'm a pops. So congratulation, Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate it. We got a new member. I'm
Speaker 1: hanging with the boy. Got a fifth member. We do.
Speaker 1: He'll he'll make an appearance at some point. I'm not
Speaker 1: quite ready to give him the limelight yet, but at
Speaker 1: some point we'll We'll get him in here. All right, fellas,
Speaker 1: enough about this, let's talk about football man we had
Speaker 1: football yesterday. We had talking football. We had mister Jones,
Speaker 1: we had Steven, we had coach McCarthy, we had Nate Newton,
Speaker 1: we had Michael Irvin. We had you look good yesterday.
Speaker 1: By the way, Nate, you look really good. You dress
Speaker 1: up for them, but you won't dress up for us.
Speaker 1: That's cool. And we had dakh bro. Oh, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's do this. There's so much to get to. I've
Speaker 1: got a whole list of things, Jesse. I know you
Speaker 1: have not been able to talk out loud in a
Speaker 1: public forum to a mass audience and so long. It's
Speaker 1: probably killing you. Just just sit there. Let's let you,
Speaker 1: let's let you open it up. What's what's the one
Speaker 1: thing you want to talk about from all the stuff
Speaker 1: that was going on yesterday, or you know what, let's
Speaker 1: even say from the last time that we had the show.
Speaker 1: What's one thing you want to you want to get
Speaker 1: into you right off the bat? Wow for the last man.
Speaker 1: There's so much. Let's just start. Let's just let's attack
Speaker 1: really the elephant in the room. Right. We finally heard
Speaker 1: after one hundred and nine days, we finally heard from
Speaker 1: the boss. Uh, mister Jones. He spoke yesterday, and you
Speaker 1: can just tell like the people in the media were
Speaker 1: like all at the starting blocks waiting to get the
Speaker 1: first question out of the gate because you knew what
Speaker 1: it was going to be about. You knew what you
Speaker 1: you knew and if you follow the Cowboys, you know
Speaker 1: David Moore always kind of gets the first question in
Speaker 1: all rights, so you knew it was coming from him.
Speaker 1: But you knew right where they were going, and you
Speaker 1: knew right what you know what they were going to say.
Speaker 1: And if you were born last night, then you probably
Speaker 1: didn't know that Jerry was going to have the most
Speaker 1: ready answer that he could possibly have for that particular situation.
Speaker 1: And he said a bunch of words. He said a
Speaker 1: lot of words. He went on alone soliloquy to really
Speaker 1: say no thing then, and so you know, it was
Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was. It was well thought out,
Speaker 1: it was executed flawlessly. I mean, he didn't stutter, he
Speaker 1: didn't miss a beat, he didn't miss a syllable or word,
Speaker 1: a comma quote or nothing to say really, nothing to
Speaker 1: say really that question that we all wanted to know
Speaker 1: and find out about. I think we're still in the
Speaker 1: same place we were before the four minute long soliloquy
Speaker 1: by by Jerry on yesterday. But he spoke, but he spoke,
Speaker 1: and he said something. So I guess you now have
Speaker 1: to just wait. Maybe you know, we don't have to
Speaker 1: have another hundred and nine days because the season will
Speaker 1: be here before we know it, and then we'll have well,
Speaker 1: well we'll see something. We will see something. We won't
Speaker 1: have any preseason games, but where we see we will
Speaker 1: see something. Game one of the season in California. What
Speaker 1: is that so five field or whatever that field is
Speaker 1: in LA against the Rams. So we'll we'll see whatever
Speaker 1: he was trying to say in not saying anything at all,
Speaker 1: but using a really really a lot of words. We
Speaker 1: will see what that product is when we get to
Speaker 1: week one of the season. So were you played with
Speaker 1: that or would you rather seem more definitive? You know, no,
Speaker 1: he didn't say anything like he he you know, he
Speaker 1: used the word grace and I felt like he was
Speaker 1: going to take it out the church and it was
Speaker 1: grace and it was God has spoken right, like he
Speaker 1: still hadn't answered the question. It was a lot of
Speaker 1: great lot of we heard graces and it you know,
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, we get it, Grace, but what
Speaker 1: does that mean as far as so the question is
Speaker 1: still not answered and it's still very but but it
Speaker 1: was the most, if it was the most Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: of all Jerry Jones things to do. It's to say
Speaker 1: something so eloquent and lengthy and give you word that
Speaker 1: you may not know or understand, and have a point
Speaker 1: like like you know, almost like a preacher, drive that
Speaker 1: point home for you to leave and sometimes feel like
Speaker 1: I don't know what to even talk about. It's almost
Speaker 1: you just explain for the last four minutes of nothing
Speaker 1: right I am but black version of Jerry Jones you
Speaker 1: have it. It's almost very it's getting to where it's
Speaker 1: getting to the point where it's almost very Yogi bearish
Speaker 1: where he talks. He'll say something and there's so much
Speaker 1: to take in about what all is being said that
Speaker 1: you almost forget what the point was and you just
Speaker 1: kind of move on to the next question. You're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not Yeah, we're not gonna get any out of this. So, Kurt,
Speaker 1: what was what? What's something that you've been chopping at
Speaker 1: the bit to talk about or something that came out
Speaker 1: of yesterday that that kind of you want to address Well,
Speaker 1: I think, well, now it's chopping up the bit talking
Speaker 1: about that signing last night. But at the time going
Speaker 1: into that press conference was kind of you know, I
Speaker 1: liked what Dak said it was or you know, going
Speaker 1: on to that second press conference, I liked what he said. Um,
Speaker 1: you do wonder though, if that's you know, the contract.
Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting. Um, nobody seems worried about it,
Speaker 1: but I think us as fans still are. So that
Speaker 1: was something that at some point I would love to
Speaker 1: get into. But again then that all kind of changed
Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, Nate your term. But hey, brother, like
Speaker 1: I said earlier, you know, since we last talked, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's been one hundred and nine days
Speaker 1: for us too. And I just want to say, Shannon,
Speaker 1: why I appreciate You don't know how much I appreciate.
Speaker 1: When I went out to clean out my car and
Speaker 1: a lady walter under me with a bag of wings
Speaker 1: that blew me away up. My wife and my will
Speaker 1: we gonna eat today? What we eat? So I took
Speaker 1: pitches and put in a chair. She went up back
Speaker 1: rule came bang out a big bag. So that is
Speaker 1: big for me. Uh, your son being delivered is big
Speaker 1: for me. And uh and I'm with you, Kurt. Where
Speaker 1: are we gonna talk about Everson Griffith? Talk about him
Speaker 1: real quick, real quick? Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to wing
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Speaker 1: They sent all of us when they we finally got
Speaker 1: it right after you guys gave me so much trouble
Speaker 1: for not being able to get that stuff delivered. We
Speaker 1: finally got wings delivered on National Wing Day. Chris got
Speaker 1: nothing because Chris deserves nothing. Now I'm just kidding. Chris
Speaker 1: deserves everything for keeping this thing on the track. Next
Speaker 1: time you were you were included, Chris. I know you
Speaker 1: got a houseful of people. We're gonna have to get
Speaker 1: you the family pack. So shout out to wing Stop.
Speaker 1: Thanks for hooking us up last week. It was awesome food.
Speaker 1: I actually had had you had wings the night before
Speaker 1: because I didn't know they were delivering it, and then
Speaker 1: they delivered it, so I doubled up up. So I
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing for me before we get into
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin is Dad had a great point that I
Speaker 1: didn't even think about and I didn't. You don't think
Speaker 1: about players talking about this, but this season he made
Speaker 1: the statement that the team that stays the healthiest has
Speaker 1: got the best shot at winning this thing this year.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was really insightful and something that
Speaker 1: you know, sounds like the players and specifically the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are talking about that, holding each other accountable, making sure
Speaker 1: they're doing the right thing and staying healthy, you know,
Speaker 1: off the field as well as on the field. So
Speaker 1: I thought that was a great point and something that
Speaker 1: I hadn't hadn't really thought about, So we brought it
Speaker 1: up a few times in the last few minutes. Everson Griffin,
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about the guy. I got
Speaker 1: several text messages last night saying, you're gonna love this guy.
Speaker 1: This guy's that's a great signing, a great pickup. What
Speaker 1: do you guys think about the signing a defensive guy,
Speaker 1: defensive lineman from out of Minnesota with four time Pro bowler.
Speaker 1: I believe what's your guys take on them sign that?
Speaker 1: And what does that mean for the rotation the way
Speaker 1: it is? Does it change that upper is it's just
Speaker 1: more depth that they're ating. Let me say this right now, that.
Speaker 1: This is what we call tangible evidence. What I mean
Speaker 1: by that is Alden Smith ain't seen in eight years,
Speaker 1: twenty five years, ain't seen all this Smith. I don't
Speaker 1: know where Randy Gregory at Tyrone Crawford. He's coming off
Speaker 1: double hip surgery. We got tangible evidence of a guy
Speaker 1: that can actually play football, who's played within the last year.
Speaker 1: This guy's a big time player waiting to happen. Hey,
Speaker 1: the Vikings wanted him back. Zim thought they can get
Speaker 1: him under the radar at a good price. We went
Speaker 1: and got a player that can impact a game. And
Speaker 1: more importantly, he's a big game hunter. That's when he
Speaker 1: shows up at his best. I like this signing, Jesse absolutely.
Speaker 1: And what makes this even great is if you go
Speaker 1: back and watch film. He was a person that gave
Speaker 1: our future Hall of Famer Tyrn Smith left tackle fits.
Speaker 1: He gave him fits. So you know, he's just not
Speaker 1: a guy who just goes out there. You know, he's
Speaker 1: not playing anybody. No, he goes up against the best
Speaker 1: and he wins. But like DeMarcus Lawrence, not only can
Speaker 1: he get after the past. I think he has like
Speaker 1: seventy five career sacks, but he is stout, and he
Speaker 1: is strong in the run game. And when you look
Speaker 1: at this defense, the way that Mike Nolan wants to
Speaker 1: run this defense. He wants to have Jalen Smith and
Speaker 1: Layton vander Esh and Sean Lee and other guys being
Speaker 1: free flowing, attacking linebackers. How do you do that? You
Speaker 1: got to get dogs up front. You got Marcus Lawrence,
Speaker 1: you got You went and got Ontario Poe. You went
Speaker 1: and got Gerald McCoy, You went and got ever said Griffin.
Speaker 1: You went and got Pro bowlers all across the front line.
Speaker 1: And so now what does that do for your linebackers?
Speaker 1: You keep the big guys off of them, the small
Speaker 1: little guys that Rod manually trying to have in there
Speaker 1: and playing out of position. We're getting pushed back into
Speaker 1: the linebackers and now they're single blocking and they're able
Speaker 1: to have that guard or that center get up to
Speaker 1: that second level and get on Jalen and get on Layton.
Speaker 1: And so now the running back has all this success. Well,
Speaker 1: you've eliminated that. You've eliminated that. And on top of that,
Speaker 1: when you look at what they've done upfront with this defense,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get after the quarterback. They're gonna stop the
Speaker 1: run game, which is going to make tremendous, tremendous amount
Speaker 1: of pressure on the quarterback. And now you don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about your defense on the back end. Not
Speaker 1: saying that those guys don't have to cover anybody, but
Speaker 1: they won't have to cover anybody as a long So
Speaker 1: all those long developing routes, those double moves, quarterbacks won't
Speaker 1: have the time to sit in the pocket and to
Speaker 1: pick you apart, because you got you got you got
Speaker 1: Griffin coming from one side, you got Laura's coming from
Speaker 1: the other side, you got Donetario Poe, you got up
Speaker 1: the middle. I mean, so now you've got some guys
Speaker 1: that's gonna and now you have a rotation, and I
Speaker 1: don't have to depend on guys like a Randy Gregory,
Speaker 1: like a Alden Smith, like a Tristan Hill who bother way,
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill. And if you're watching this, hear me and
Speaker 1: hear me good. This is you have been son. You
Speaker 1: have been put on notice. Hearing me and hearing me good,
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, you have been put on notice. These guys,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, Mike Nolan, these not not the guy that
Speaker 1: drafted you. They don't owe anything to you. You if
Speaker 1: you think for one second, Tristan Hill, that this is uh,
Speaker 1: you need to be baby set. Now, this ain't a
Speaker 1: daycare center, all right. If you need to be baby set,
Speaker 1: go to a daycare center. Son, You have been put
Speaker 1: on notice. They haven't went and got some holes and
Speaker 1: some dogs up front and never got away, and really
Speaker 1: and I and so so you think if you you
Speaker 1: you you can tiptoar around if you want this year,
Speaker 1: Tristan Hiller, and you're gonna spend a lot of time
Speaker 1: on the sideline, and that jersey number might be gone.
Speaker 1: You have been listen, Nate, am I lion. This is
Speaker 1: a notice theory, Hillo. You have been put unnoticed. We
Speaker 1: are no longer waiting on you, Tristian Hill. If you
Speaker 1: can't get it and figure it out how to be
Speaker 1: a pro and go about your business, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: We got some dogs, we got some boys up front
Speaker 1: that's gonna go out there and play, and you might
Speaker 1: be finding new address soon, son, especially if some other
Speaker 1: guys start popping up in camp and out playing you,
Speaker 1: some undrafted guys, maybe some late round pick guys. Nah,
Speaker 1: Navel Gallimore, You've been put a man's Tristian Hill. You
Speaker 1: tweeted something about it doesn't matter who's playing cornerback. Now
Speaker 1: you really believe that, I truly, I'm always a firm believer. Now, granted,
Speaker 1: it's always great to have some dogs on the islands,
Speaker 1: right that you can blind up anybody out there. But
Speaker 1: when you get the pressure that you're gonna get up,
Speaker 1: thank you. You're guys are not gonna have all this
Speaker 1: time for developing route. Quarterbacks used to be able to
Speaker 1: go to their first read, second read, third read, then
Speaker 1: checked down to come back to the first read again.
Speaker 1: That's not going to be a realistic thing with this
Speaker 1: type of front and with Mike Nolan who likes to
Speaker 1: dial up the blitz. So not saying that you can
Speaker 1: have any Joe smoll out there, but what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is you don't have to have the row rivus out
Speaker 1: there and still be able to be productive. You need
Speaker 1: to have some guys out there who can hold up initially.
Speaker 1: If you can hold up initially at the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: to create a little bit of timing being thrown off,
Speaker 1: these guys coming at you in waves up front quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are not going to be back there sitting in the
Speaker 1: pocket tapping the ball looking around. No guy's gonna be
Speaker 1: breathing down their necks, breathing down their throats, and they
Speaker 1: got to deliver the ball quicker and sooner than they
Speaker 1: want to. So guys in the back end are able
Speaker 1: to go out there and make plays and not have
Speaker 1: to cover for five six seconds like they did in
Speaker 1: the pass. Our rotation is strong man whatever Sue Griffin,
Speaker 1: jamarkets Lars up front, those two horses there, do you
Speaker 1: got done? Terrio Poe eating up bodies and you got
Speaker 1: Jarred mccoich and three technique that is constant pressure. You
Speaker 1: rotate the other guys in now you may get Tyrone
Speaker 1: Crawford a little more first and ten uh second secondly
Speaker 1: short because he's a run stopping type guy. But those
Speaker 1: other four guys, you know, not saying that the Ontario
Speaker 1: poet is a great pass Russian, but he's gonna eat
Speaker 1: up bodies. He's gonna put pressure with the quarterback can't
Speaker 1: step up. If you can't step up and move around
Speaker 1: inside of the pocket. Those guys off the end with
Speaker 1: the relentless DeMarcus Lawrence and evers a group are relentless
Speaker 1: fast rushers and they can stop the run. So it
Speaker 1: reminds me. It reminds me when the New York Giants
Speaker 1: were making their run and not saying that anyone is
Speaker 1: like a Michael Straighthand type of player, but they had
Speaker 1: they had a group they called the NASCAR Group, Right,
Speaker 1: they had this group called the NASCAR and it was
Speaker 1: Michael Straighthand, it was Jpp, it was Chris Canty, it
Speaker 1: was uh Justin Tuck, it was I mean, they had
Speaker 1: these guys, yes, and they would just be able to
Speaker 1: line them up in and create these matchups because they
Speaker 1: were all big, they were all strong, they were all fast.
Speaker 1: And I think this is this kind of gives me
Speaker 1: a little bit of reminisce of that. When you add
Speaker 1: in a Bradley and Ni when you add in Jaylen
Speaker 1: Smith now being a blitzer, when you add in a
Speaker 1: narrow another and Gallimore, when you add in a Tyrone Crawford.
Speaker 1: Now you have this rotation of guys where you can
Speaker 1: do so many different things, where you can even get
Speaker 1: freaky sometimes when you can line up Jaylen Smith at
Speaker 1: the end and maybe drop them off into coverage and
Speaker 1: bring a blitz from a different direction because all these
Speaker 1: guys have versatility. They're not they're not one trick ponies.
Speaker 1: And it gives you a tremendous opportunity to go out
Speaker 1: there and do some great, great, great things without them
Speaker 1: stepping foot on the field. And this is all. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot riding on this and depending upon each other,
Speaker 1: like chemistry and schemes and all that. But with these
Speaker 1: editions they made in the offseason, y'all think it's realistic
Speaker 1: that they could have a top ten d defense this year. Uh. Now,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be excited to share them, but don't
Speaker 1: do that. No, the reason I'm saying that because Jesse
Speaker 1: gree or disagree, But it's gonna it's gonna come down
Speaker 1: to turnovers to them turnovers. If they can create enough
Speaker 1: pressure and our corners can knock down the tip enough
Speaker 1: balls to get interceptions, like to get fumbles. If our
Speaker 1: lineback can create separation, that what makes you top ten.
Speaker 1: We're talking about sacks and pressures and backdowns, but if
Speaker 1: you can turn them backdowns or them tip balls or
Speaker 1: those hits, them devastating hits into fumbles interceptions, now you're
Speaker 1: talking about the top ten defense, and I just want
Speaker 1: to see. I would like to give them three or
Speaker 1: four weeks to get going and get groovy before before
Speaker 1: we talk about that. I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 1: get too premature. Now, I'll talk about our offense being
Speaker 1: top five or top ten, but our defense it still
Speaker 1: remains to be seen. Yeah, all right, all right, you're
Speaker 1: taking a break, okays for you guys when we get back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna take a break so Jesse can catch
Speaker 1: his breath and we can see if put a governor
Speaker 1: on his bike to slow the down. Maybe it's been
Speaker 1: so long I forgot just how much Jesse can talk.
Speaker 1: I mean, how could you forget that? But I was
Speaker 1: just reminded Jesse is the man. Jesse is the man.
Speaker 1: I missed you guys so much. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break when we get back. Kurt's got questions,
Speaker 1: I got dad jokes. We're gonna talk about Dak Presscott.
Speaker 1: We're gonna run out of time. Well, we're gonna talk
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Speaker 1: their career stats, it's got what they've done in the past.
Speaker 1: It's got you know, predictions of what they're going to
Speaker 1: do in the future, what they need to do in
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Speaker 1: Who who all does analysis in that thing? Is it
Speaker 1: all of our writers? Yeah, it's our writers. It's Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: David Hillman, Nick Eatman, Kyle you almost chipped in. I
Speaker 1: even chipped in a little bit, so Z don't have
Speaker 1: a good great right? Wow? Well, Kurt, you mentioned before
Speaker 1: we went to break that you had some questions. I
Speaker 1: don't want to wait any longer for that. I want
Speaker 1: to make sure you get your questions in. So take
Speaker 1: it away, man, what you got? Okay, here's my question
Speaker 1: now I'm starting off. Don't put me don't be ragging
Speaker 1: on me because you think I don't like Zeke. I
Speaker 1: love Zeke, and I like smooth smooth. Yeah, here we go,
Speaker 1: Here we go. I like this move. I think it's
Speaker 1: it's definitely gonna help him and adds depth. But you know,
Speaker 1: I've seen some places where this guy's the difference maker.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm questioning. I mean, if this was
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, you'd have the best defensive line in the
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But you know, all these guys are
Speaker 1: over thirty. Um McCoy, I think what post twenty nine,
Speaker 1: twenty thirty? H Griffin is thirty two, He'll be thirty
Speaker 1: three by the end of the season. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: he was on a defense last year when he wrecked
Speaker 1: up what eight sacks? Wasn't nine? Say yeah, twenty four
Speaker 1: twenty four quarterback hits loving hits with losses. Right, he
Speaker 1: was on it. He was on a defense that was
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league. Had five Pro Bowlers,
Speaker 1: his guy on the right, on the left defensive end,
Speaker 1: he had what fourteen and a half sacks? They had
Speaker 1: an old pro one of their cornerbacks as a Pro Bowler.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was on the solid defense. You're adding
Speaker 1: him here. Now, last year on the right defensive end,
Speaker 1: you had a guy who came in and he had
Speaker 1: eight sacks, eight and a half sacks. Heard, No, he
Speaker 1: had more than that, eleven half. He led the team.
Speaker 1: He led the team. Now you should be stronger in
Speaker 1: the middle. Hopefully you know you've got a better player
Speaker 1: on the right defensive end. Although he's older. Mum, what's it?
Speaker 1: Got completely joined the right guy last year? Yeah, Quinn.
Speaker 1: Quinn was twenty nine last year. I think so he's
Speaker 1: gonna help. But is he the one guy that's going
Speaker 1: to put you over the top because you pretty much
Speaker 1: got the same parts and you may be worse on
Speaker 1: the back end of the secondary. How much? How is
Speaker 1: he going to help you make this as a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl defense? He would not play as many snaps as
Speaker 1: he played in Minnesota. That's number one, Number two back in,
Speaker 1: I think it is better, uh, for its talent. I
Speaker 1: don't know abody's experienced, but for its talent our back in,
Speaker 1: it's better. This rotation that Jesse eloquently put in place
Speaker 1: here early in Earli. It is elite, man, it is
Speaker 1: elite for what we're gonna ask each individual guy to do.
Speaker 1: They're gonna scheme these guys. That's one thing we didn't
Speaker 1: do last years, helped scheme guys into sacks by whell blitzing,
Speaker 1: by where being in the right places. We have that now,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to have have that with Coach Noble and
Speaker 1: his bunch of guys. This is a better defensive front
Speaker 1: as of today, right now that what we had at
Speaker 1: any poet last year. Yeah. See, I think maybe the
Speaker 1: difference maker isn't necessarily the players. It's the coaches, because
Speaker 1: you know, they've they've got to scheme these guys up
Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback, and so a few of
Speaker 1: them they do, but some of them is raw enough
Speaker 1: to get there. The d law and Everson Griffins, is
Speaker 1: they they dog enough to get there. Gerald McCourt, if
Speaker 1: they play him right, he's got something in the tame brother.
Speaker 1: We gotta get you up right, eight man. This pass
Speaker 1: the question got you cut off? That's the question, though.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're counting on Jerald McCoy, who's thirty something,
Speaker 1: to be the guy who was in twenty fifteen. DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence is a dog. There's knowing about it, doubt about it.
Speaker 1: But how many sacks did he have last year. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what people look at. Brother man will make the
Speaker 1: same amount of money every year. Okay, so you had
Speaker 1: Quinn on the right side, you had no turnovers on
Speaker 1: the back end. How is Griffin bringing in his double
Speaker 1: digit let's give him double digit sacks? How that gonna
Speaker 1: help Lawrence on the other side, who didn't have very
Speaker 1: many last year, and your turnovers on the back end.
Speaker 1: I think for me, it's going to be a combination
Speaker 1: of a couple of things. Um. One you bring a
Speaker 1: Griffin is a while he may not be as young
Speaker 1: as Robert Quinn, he's more experienced, right, he has more
Speaker 1: skins on the wall. Um he has you know, he
Speaker 1: he has some snificant moves. But I think the one
Speaker 1: thing that we cannot cannot miss having do Ontario Poe
Speaker 1: and having Gerald McCoy in that middle. What that does
Speaker 1: and those guys aren't going to have to play all
Speaker 1: of these snaps you got never you got Nevin Galloway,
Speaker 1: who's gonna be able to come in and do some
Speaker 1: other teams Antoine Woods. So what that now does is
Speaker 1: those those guards who are used to being able to
Speaker 1: go out and double team a guy like Tank or
Speaker 1: push out and now it's one on one because those
Speaker 1: other guys were just too small. You now have to
Speaker 1: account for that pressure up the middle. You now have
Speaker 1: to designate another guy to double team one of those
Speaker 1: one of those two guys in the middle. So that
Speaker 1: now allow us for more one on one matchups. And
Speaker 1: it comes to the point where if you have now
Speaker 1: two one on one matchups on the outside, because it
Speaker 1: third down and eight and you got you know, those
Speaker 1: guys inside, or it's it's second and whatever. Those guys
Speaker 1: on the inside, the Nevill Gallimore's, the Ontario Poles, the
Speaker 1: General McCoy's, those guys on the Ntoine Woods are going
Speaker 1: to eat up bodies. So you're going to allow your
Speaker 1: Bradley and Nis to just be non track minded. Hey
Speaker 1: see the guy back there with the football that's saying
Speaker 1: hut hut, go get him. Jalen Smith, go get him,
Speaker 1: Tank Griffin, go get him. Oh by the way, Aldon Smith,
Speaker 1: when you come into the game, just go get that
Speaker 1: guy right there. We don't have to worry about all
Speaker 1: that other antillary stuff because we got those big halls
Speaker 1: in the middle eating those bodies up. Or it's going
Speaker 1: to allow us up front to do more things, the twists,
Speaker 1: the stunts, the blisters and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And I think on the back end, what it does
Speaker 1: is I think overall we'll have more opportunistic players on
Speaker 1: the back end, guys who are more who are more
Speaker 1: susceptible to going to get the football. Right. I'm not
Speaker 1: teaching to keep my head turned around while the ball
Speaker 1: is coming. No, I'm teaching to get my head back
Speaker 1: so I can go up and get that football. And
Speaker 1: you got guys in the back end, and you got
Speaker 1: coaches that are now teaching, Hey, we're going to get
Speaker 1: the football, fellas, because coach Nolan, he donna send these
Speaker 1: guys up front. So keep your head on the swoomer
Speaker 1: because that ball is gonna come out quick. It's gonna
Speaker 1: come out fast, so be in a position to go
Speaker 1: and get the football. So I think that's how it's
Speaker 1: It's transitioned from being a better defense than it was
Speaker 1: last year than it is it's better than the defense
Speaker 1: this year than it was last year. This is a
Speaker 1: ned to take him further in the playoffs. But the
Speaker 1: offense gonna do that, and then and then and then
Speaker 1: all again on offense again, on offense, this offense is
Speaker 1: going to be putting up so much high numbers and points.
Speaker 1: It's going to leave the opposing team's offense to be
Speaker 1: one track minded. And as a defensive coordinator, if I
Speaker 1: have a team that is a one track minded team
Speaker 1: because they're down in the points, that allows me to
Speaker 1: just go ahead and unleash my dogs. I don't have
Speaker 1: to work. These guys are down twenty one points. They
Speaker 1: ain't got time to run the football. They gotta they
Speaker 1: gotta throw this thing. And so when that happens, now
Speaker 1: I can go out there and scheme a thing up
Speaker 1: completely different because that other team is trying to play
Speaker 1: catch up instead of them being in control and being
Speaker 1: the attackers there you know we are now they are
Speaker 1: now the hunted and we're the hunters. And they're not
Speaker 1: gonna take their foot off the gas when you get
Speaker 1: a twenty one point lead off fourteen point lead, they
Speaker 1: ain't gonna take their foot off the gas too until
Speaker 1: it's two minutes left in the game, whereas before the
Speaker 1: people come out at halftime, Okay, we're up twenty one
Speaker 1: or we're up seventeen, let's just run the ball. Come on, brother,
Speaker 1: that's that's had one of the top God, mister gloom
Speaker 1: and doom. As far as I thought that was shadding,
Speaker 1: God turns out to be Kurt. Hey, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get you, get you guys to explain. Oh really, I
Speaker 1: really hope So I know, of course, Black, I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be better. I think a couple of wings
Speaker 1: stops they're gonna be better. But I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I just worry about people saying, oh, they're they're just
Speaker 1: great defense now and no, I don't know what they're still. Wait,
Speaker 1: they're wishing on a lot of things. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of hope, a lot of cross fingers on what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But I think what Jesse saying there, Kurt, is they're
Speaker 1: gonna be about opportunities. They're gonna be about playing the
Speaker 1: situations a little bit better. We didn't play the situations
Speaker 1: as well year. I think coaches are the biggest impacting
Speaker 1: right Yeah, Oh no, I'm not disagreeing with that. I
Speaker 1: promise you. Ain't you disagreeing with that? Kurt? Do you
Speaker 1: have any more questions? Or is that the only thing
Speaker 1: you got? Oh? You know, I'll beat them down a
Speaker 1: little bit later. It's cool. All right, Well, Jesse, you
Speaker 1: brought up a point that I want to I want
Speaker 1: to talk about. This is something that's come up a
Speaker 1: couple of times over the last I guess week or so.
Speaker 1: Is now you got Ceedee Lamb in the mix. You
Speaker 1: got Michael Gallup, you got Amari Cooper, you got Zeke,
Speaker 1: you got you know, Tony Pollard, You've got Blake Jarwin.
Speaker 1: Are there enough footballs? You know? Dak said yesterday it
Speaker 1: just takes one one guy. Are there enough footballs to
Speaker 1: keep these guys happy? And? I mean I think everybody
Speaker 1: you expect this team to put up twenty seven to
Speaker 1: thirty four points a week. I think that's what the
Speaker 1: expectation is. So obviously there's gonna be you know, it
Speaker 1: came out last week that Mari said it. You know,
Speaker 1: we expect to have that three one thousand yard receivers.
Speaker 1: But then you got Za, you got you know, Zeke,
Speaker 1: and then you got Blake jarr And what is that
Speaker 1: gonna look like? And how does that how do you
Speaker 1: think the season unfolds when obviously there's only so many
Speaker 1: touches to go around? How do they handle that? They
Speaker 1: go about it the same way. I mean, look at
Speaker 1: just look at what the numbers were last year. You
Speaker 1: had two one thousand yard receivers. You had Jason, You
Speaker 1: had Jason Witten who came on, you know, Grandpa Witten,
Speaker 1: and he had about six hundred or something receiving yards
Speaker 1: and all he was doing was catching four yard rides
Speaker 1: from falling. Then you had Rundall cop who was coming in.
Speaker 1: I think he had another six hundred something yards or
Speaker 1: five from yards, eight hundred yards excuse me, And how
Speaker 1: many balls did he dropped? I mean he had at
Speaker 1: least about ten eleven drafts would it would have added
Speaker 1: probably another one hundred and fifty yards in total. So
Speaker 1: that gives you three thousand yard receivers right there. Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott through for thirty touchdowns, and he was one hundred
Speaker 1: yards off from throwing a five thousand yards season. The
Speaker 1: new league, the New Football League, it's forty five hundred
Speaker 1: to five thousand yards plus now for the way that
Speaker 1: guys are throwing. So this team saying that having a
Speaker 1: thousand yards three thousand yard receivers on this team is
Speaker 1: not something that's saying like, no, in fact, you can,
Speaker 1: you can, you can probably damn there. Get the four
Speaker 1: thousand yard receivers, because I believe what Blake Jarwin is
Speaker 1: gonna do with that tight end position is going to
Speaker 1: be much more athletic, dynamic, explosive, exuberant, u flamboyant than
Speaker 1: what we've seen in the last couple of years from
Speaker 1: eighty two. So all those yards where at two was
Speaker 1: catching and falling, I think Blake Jarring now gets those
Speaker 1: and turn them into much more greater plays. And if
Speaker 1: Randall cop can get eight hundred yards, and I'm not
Speaker 1: putting that pressure on cd Land because I thought that
Speaker 1: he has a lot to learn. And Randall Cobb had
Speaker 1: a wealth of knowledge of how to recognize defenses and
Speaker 1: how to recognize how someone is defending him and how
Speaker 1: to get open. But if he if he gets close
Speaker 1: to that, I doubt he dropped as many balls as him.
Speaker 1: And he's a tougher after the catch type of runner.
Speaker 1: So we know what what I'm always gonna do it.
Speaker 1: And if Mike Goller continues his ascension what he's going
Speaker 1: to do, then now you're saying a guy that tighten
Speaker 1: Knights had six hundred yards two could who was like
Speaker 1: a sloth, And now I got a much more athletic
Speaker 1: guy and now I had a guy who dropped the
Speaker 1: ball ten times last year and was hurt, who had
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards, And now I have this young fresh
Speaker 1: dog of a wide receiver. It's no question. And Dac
Speaker 1: was one hundred yards off from throwing five thousand, and
Speaker 1: Zeke still has four hundred yards receiving, and Tony Power
Speaker 1: had a couple hundred yards receiving. There's more than enough
Speaker 1: footballs to go around for this team to be super successful.
Speaker 1: And for Doc to throw for thirty plus touchdowns and
Speaker 1: somewhere around five thousand to fifty five hundred yards, that's fast.
Speaker 1: So all they have to do, Kurt Daniels Shannon Gros,
Speaker 1: I'm a Kurt Daniels Shannon girl. All they have to
Speaker 1: do is be fishing, play mistake free football. It's more
Speaker 1: than enough balls to go around. Don't have those pre
Speaker 1: snap pmties, don't don't drop balls that are in your hand.
Speaker 1: Well we can. We know Time's gonna get at least
Speaker 1: one holding in one of those every game, so stop,
Speaker 1: let's stop. Come home. We know you don't get one.
Speaker 1: I like you know we want three super Bowls and
Speaker 1: I did worse than that, So I like, I like
Speaker 1: where you're going with it, though, Nate, I think you're
Speaker 1: right to fish because they led the league in yards
Speaker 1: last year. They were sixty points and they finished eight.
Speaker 1: N All they gotta do is tightened. If they tightened
Speaker 1: up their red zone. If they tightened the red zone,
Speaker 1: it's over. It's over if they tightened And see this is,
Speaker 1: this is the kick Randall Cob had eight hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty eight yards last year. With you this is and
Speaker 1: you drop the ball ten times, that's three thousand yards
Speaker 1: receivers right there. Yeah, I think, I mean, I just
Speaker 1: I just crept this rail. Let me say this, the kicker.
Speaker 1: You still have to account for Zeke in certain games.
Speaker 1: You still have to account for him. And I ain't
Speaker 1: talking and I'm talking about the all around. Zeke will
Speaker 1: come back. The field was spread out. They don't have
Speaker 1: to bog down in the box. Now, the field was
Speaker 1: spread out. As long as the young CDE Lamb does
Speaker 1: with Jesse's acting them to do, just catch the ball,
Speaker 1: the field spreads out. And now when you you would
Speaker 1: see the big runs again from Zeke. I promise as
Speaker 1: long as I left guard and our center be able
Speaker 1: to match and play well together. Oh boy, now you're
Speaker 1: but let me say this as well, and I'm glad
Speaker 1: you mentioned that, because I forgot all about this to
Speaker 1: go back to church point earlier. How else will ever,
Speaker 1: here's how else. Everson Griffin, Ontario poel U, General McCoy
Speaker 1: and Tank Lawrence. Here's how else they're going to help.
Speaker 1: And it has nothing to do with end game stuff.
Speaker 1: Our offensive line, the new look offensive line, whether it
Speaker 1: be one of the two Connors, whether it be one
Speaker 1: of you know the kid. These guys are going to
Speaker 1: get work every single day against former pro bowlers, right,
Speaker 1: They're gonna get that tough, professional work every single day
Speaker 1: against these guys. And then when you're dumber practice, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a guy like Joe McCoy say, hey, young fella,
Speaker 1: listen early in practice, you did this. Next time do
Speaker 1: this right? Oh hey uh don Terra Poco say you know, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you got me on that bull rush. What did you
Speaker 1: see while I saw that you was leaning too hard
Speaker 1: on this way? And I did this? Oh every sin
Speaker 1: Griffith's gonna come and say, hey, young fella, when you're
Speaker 1: playing out here, look at the set. Look at So
Speaker 1: now they have that experience of going against these defensive guys.
Speaker 1: It's gonna help us offensively because that knowledge and that
Speaker 1: work every single day you have no choice but to
Speaker 1: get better. You have no choice but to absorb and
Speaker 1: soak up that knowledge that these guys are going to
Speaker 1: be giving. So that's another way that guys like Tank
Speaker 1: and McCoy and Poe and Everson Griffith is going to
Speaker 1: be able to enhance us, not only defensively, but offensively
Speaker 1: giving those young guys great quality, respectable professional work every
Speaker 1: day in practice. You year that, Kurt, I like it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you stopped that, Kurt, I'm looking at you. Stop that?
Speaker 1: Well you are. You are my new dum in glue
Speaker 1: that my boy Chris Beam has helped us out with.
Speaker 1: When you look at what Randall Cobb and Tavon Austin
Speaker 1: had done last year, eight hundred and twenty eight yards
Speaker 1: by Randall Cobb and one hundred and seventy seven yards
Speaker 1: by by Tavon Austin, both of those guys are no
Speaker 1: longer here. You have your third thousand yard receiver right
Speaker 1: there between those two guys. You have a thousand yards
Speaker 1: right there, like literally like literally that like literally that's
Speaker 1: a thousand yards right are making too much of yards though,
Speaker 1: because the yards they needed last year. I say that's
Speaker 1: why I say, if they clean up the red zone,
Speaker 1: then those yards Jesse are talking about would be tremendous.
Speaker 1: But if they don't clean up the red zone, Freaky
Speaker 1: micas in the building, Freaky Mike gonna get it right,
Speaker 1: Might Freaky might know how to score points in the
Speaker 1: red zone. He gonna be just firne and getting that
Speaker 1: red zone. Freaky Mics on the job and on the scene.
Speaker 1: And y'all know the difference. Y'all know that's the difference.
Speaker 1: Freaky Mike is the difference in the red zone. He
Speaker 1: gonna get real freaky, gonna leave you football horney in
Speaker 1: the red zone. Yeah yeah. In fact, all right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. So Jesse's getting too worked up.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know where this is headed, he keeps.
Speaker 1: I can't stand up. I tell you that much. I
Speaker 1: can't stand up right now. I knocked setting over. Don't
Speaker 1: do that. I don't do that. This is this is
Speaker 1: a show. Let's keep this. Let's keep this PG. Thirteen.
Speaker 1: We don't ever know who's watching. We don't ever know.
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Speaker 1: we come back, Man, we got so much to talk about.
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Speaker 1: going on with baseball basketball Dak. Let's talk about Dak
Speaker 1: the contract not getting done, what he had to say yesterday.
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Speaker 1: before we talk football, I got a dad joke for y'all.
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Speaker 1: in the well because he couldn't see that well. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: All right? Hey, every show the rest of the year,
Speaker 1: Every show, y'all getting one of those? You getting one
Speaker 1: of those? All right? I want to get you. I
Speaker 1: want to get y'all. Thoughts on this um the season.
Speaker 1: We've seen the NBA do it one way, We've seen
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball do it another way. I think to
Speaker 1: have a successful season, I think they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: figure out some kind of combination of both. This is
Speaker 1: just my personal opinion. I think they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: take the NBA's model and maybe turn it into kind
Speaker 1: of what Hockey's doing and have four or five or
Speaker 1: six different host cities. Where they rotate. You know, you
Speaker 1: come in for a month and you play all the
Speaker 1: teams that are in this region, and then you move
Speaker 1: to the next kind of bubble. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's feasible. I don't know if that if that is
Speaker 1: gonna work, but I'm seeing what's happening in a Major
Speaker 1: League Baseball and it kind of you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of red flags there, and football is a very
Speaker 1: high contact sport. You know, a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: more guys are in the in the rooms, um, a
Speaker 1: lot more guys are on the teams. So I'm thinking
Speaker 1: they're going to have to figure out some types of
Speaker 1: protocols where it's kind of a you know, the NBA
Speaker 1: has been successful with it, um some kind of mixture. Now.
Speaker 1: I think if they do it the right way, they
Speaker 1: can have a full season. I think it can work.
Speaker 1: But you know, Dak even mentioned it said that they
Speaker 1: think that, you know, teams that stay the healthiest are
Speaker 1: going to be the ones that that that make a
Speaker 1: run at this thing. So I just kind of wanted
Speaker 1: to get y'all's feedback with everything that's going on with
Speaker 1: the other professional sports leagues. What's what's y'all's opinions and
Speaker 1: thoughts about you know, getting a full season in here. Well,
Speaker 1: I hope it happens. I mean, I think it will. Um.
Speaker 1: I think Deck's right, I mean injuries. Health always plays
Speaker 1: a big part in team's successive cheer, but it's even
Speaker 1: worse now obviously with the COVID concerns. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: you you just hope that the players they can't do
Speaker 1: the bubble situation like the NBA and NHL. I just
Speaker 1: don't think that's possible. And you just hope the players learn,
Speaker 1: you know, they hope they've seen what the MLB has
Speaker 1: had to go through with some of those teams. Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I think I've only played five games so far. You
Speaker 1: hope the players kind of continue this self contained bubble
Speaker 1: they've already sort of started. I think they said ninety
Speaker 1: percent of the guys are staying at the omnium. Whether
Speaker 1: it's realistic that those guys are you're not going to
Speaker 1: go out or not to either family or whatever, that
Speaker 1: that's probably not realistic, But you just you gotta hope
Speaker 1: that they follow the right protocols. I just believe as
Speaker 1: fellas that you have to try, you have to learn,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna cost money. But this has been one
Speaker 1: of father said, this is one of the financial lessons. Boy,
Speaker 1: if I hope you really really prosper from and learn from.
Speaker 1: And that's the bottom line, because one thing I knew
Speaker 1: on March fifteenth, they gave us a bunch of rules
Speaker 1: and protocols to follow. As of today, none of them work,
Speaker 1: but the mask that nobody wanted to put on. So
Speaker 1: now we have to pay a heavy price and learn
Speaker 1: it as owners, as fans, and as players. And we'll
Speaker 1: learn as we go because COVID is not going anywhere
Speaker 1: anytime soon. Yeah. I just find this one hard hard
Speaker 1: to believe that we'll have a full season. As someone
Speaker 1: who's been in an NFL locker room, I understand how
Speaker 1: fast when someone gets a cold, when someone gets to flue,
Speaker 1: I've seen how fast that spreads through the locker room.
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's any other sport where you're
Speaker 1: when you're in as close of contact with the next
Speaker 1: man as you are when it comes down to football.
Speaker 1: And even if ninety percent of the guys are in
Speaker 1: a bubble at the OMNI for the Dallas Cowboys, that
Speaker 1: means that ten percent of the guys are not. And
Speaker 1: when you're talking about practice, these the ten percent that
Speaker 1: is not, those are probably the guys who probably can't
Speaker 1: afford to stay at the OMNI for that longer period,
Speaker 1: So they're going to be at their apartments in a
Speaker 1: new city, trying to experience some new things. And I
Speaker 1: don't know about you, guys, but I'm just keeping it real.
Speaker 1: When I was new to Dallas, and I will go
Speaker 1: through training camp and all that kind of stuff. Eventually
Speaker 1: you want to get next to somebody and we don't
Speaker 1: know who that somebody else have been next to, and
Speaker 1: then you bring all of that back into the practice
Speaker 1: where you're now going up against Tyrn Smith or you're
Speaker 1: going up against Sean Lee, and that thing can spread
Speaker 1: so fast and un baseball when you have a picture
Speaker 1: who may have tested positive, or you got seven more
Speaker 1: in the bullpen ready to go. If that tests positive
Speaker 1: for COVID, he's out for fourteen days. That's two games.
Speaker 1: It ain't no way around that. You know, if if
Speaker 1: Zeke tests positive for COVID, that's fourteen days fifteen days
Speaker 1: isolation quarantine. That's two games. In the National Football League,
Speaker 1: It's not like you know, you got this rotation of
Speaker 1: guy that you can just plug and play. And I
Speaker 1: look at and you can speak on this. I look
Speaker 1: at offensive line. There is not one group that is
Speaker 1: more close and tight knit than the offensive line. They
Speaker 1: do more things together, they hang around more with each
Speaker 1: other than any other group. So that thing can threat
Speaker 1: through your offensive line like that. And now you got
Speaker 1: four guys on you're starting five offensive line out with
Speaker 1: COVID for two weeks, and now you want to line
Speaker 1: up your you're thirty one million dollars quarterback and your
Speaker 1: your your high paid running back. I just I find
Speaker 1: it very hard that this thing is actually going to work.
Speaker 1: And we're oh and by the way, we didn't even
Speaker 1: really hit cold and flu season yet, but how do
Speaker 1: when we get to October we hit that part yet? Well,
Speaker 1: So I just find it very hard to believe that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Well. And the thing, the thing that we
Speaker 1: have to do here, and the thing that NFL is
Speaker 1: willing to do, as we heard at the State of
Speaker 1: the Union yesterday, they're going they're going in and they're
Speaker 1: going in with their eyes wide open and the enthusiastic
Speaker 1: about trying until we try and give an effort and
Speaker 1: see how this goes so you can make your adjustments
Speaker 1: because it's a day to day thing with this, with
Speaker 1: this enemy we fight now that we don't know when
Speaker 1: it's comming to how it's coming. But all the x
Speaker 1: the only thing the experts can agree on is when
Speaker 1: October hit, it's coming back. Okay, we know this, we
Speaker 1: understand this. Now you just try to do what you
Speaker 1: can do and make your adjustments and then if this
Speaker 1: thing have to shet out, you have to do a restart.
Speaker 1: Like the NBA, you have to do a re start,
Speaker 1: but you'll be more knowledge, more understanding of what you
Speaker 1: have to do. I mean, definitely start fast and win
Speaker 1: games early, yes sir, yes, sir. Do you be like
Speaker 1: NBABA got twenty two guys that will have a shot
Speaker 1: at the playoffs. You better start fans on with you
Speaker 1: as you want to be one of those ten or
Speaker 1: twelve guys and the restart to be able to have
Speaker 1: a chance at being the playoffs. So there's four teams
Speaker 1: now that say they're not going to play in front
Speaker 1: of fans. Is that any kind of you think the
Speaker 1: NFL is gonna come out and say, okay, nobody can
Speaker 1: play with fans, because that's a competitive advantage at all.
Speaker 1: Want to be the state theme that is be so
Speaker 1: few fans, it won't make a difference. It's a state
Speaker 1: and the state theme. It's gonna be a state state
Speaker 1: them you ain't gonna be. That's one thing the NFL
Speaker 1: is not gonna be able to control. Oh, since nobody
Speaker 1: gets I mean baseball, I mean the different states have
Speaker 1: different they've decided across the board. Nobody's having fans. And
Speaker 1: I just wonder if we win his baseball baseball, they
Speaker 1: players to say, Hey, we all got COVID, let's play.
Speaker 1: You're gonna try to baseball. That's for me. I don't
Speaker 1: get me started on baseball. I mean when I'm at
Speaker 1: my regular job and listen to people how baseball is
Speaker 1: looking to point the thing at their commissioner and so
Speaker 1: anything the players can do to make them that their
Speaker 1: sport look bad, they do it. Football is not that
Speaker 1: is not that is not designed that way and not
Speaker 1: built that way. But I agree with suggested it's gonna
Speaker 1: be when when October call m it's gonna be up. Yeah, Kurt,
Speaker 1: And I think Kurt A big part of that is
Speaker 1: I can see the competitive advantage part. But I can
Speaker 1: also see the revenue part, like, I don't think the
Speaker 1: NFL would deny teams that are able to generate make
Speaker 1: sure you remember revenue. Yeah right, they share revenue and
Speaker 1: all that. It's probably don't don't don't want those other
Speaker 1: stadiums open soil they have a little bit coming in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I can see it both ways. But I
Speaker 1: would imagine that they would allow teams that ken you
Speaker 1: rate revenue during this time to be able to do that.
Speaker 1: So all right, let's shift gears real quick. The last
Speaker 1: four minutes of the show. Five minutes of the show,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott talked for the first time and seems like
Speaker 1: forever yesterday and you know, a typical, dat fashioned you know,
Speaker 1: if there were any animosities between him and the organization,
Speaker 1: you could not tell it. Yesterday. He said he plans
Speaker 1: on being a cowboy for life. He grew up wanting
Speaker 1: to play for the Cowboys. He's right where he wants
Speaker 1: to be. You know, there were some questions about him
Speaker 1: and Stephen talking last minute about trying to get a
Speaker 1: deal done. You know, obviously, Dak, just the kind of
Speaker 1: guy he is, he's not gonna let on if you
Speaker 1: know there is animosity there. What did you guys take
Speaker 1: out of that, and do you think that that's necessarily
Speaker 1: a bad thing. I know we've talked about a lot
Speaker 1: on this show that going and playing under the tag
Speaker 1: this year and then see what happens next year. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's several different opinions out in the media. What's your
Speaker 1: thoughts on how that played out towards the end of
Speaker 1: them putting the tag on him and then what he
Speaker 1: had to say yesterday. I believe this her head. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it right quickly. I can get out of
Speaker 1: the way. You're giving him thirty one. That's a hard,
Speaker 1: cold cash thirty one meal. Next year, it jumps to
Speaker 1: thirty seven if you don't get a deal next year.
Speaker 1: And you don't and you don't blow Dak out of
Speaker 1: the water if he plays well, and it's all predicated
Speaker 1: on them going to the playoffs, if he plays well,
Speaker 1: you gotta hurt. You got you got to get it done,
Speaker 1: because you don't want to jump from thirty seven to
Speaker 1: well into the mid forties to next year. You cannot
Speaker 1: pay him then, so you go out there either blow
Speaker 1: you got to blow his socks off out of this
Speaker 1: year if you want him to be your quarterbacks as players,
Speaker 1: does having that still hanging out there does it bother
Speaker 1: you at all? Does it provide any kind of distraction
Speaker 1: or anything like that, Jess, Jess, get on it um
Speaker 1: for Dak. I'm gonna be honest with you. He is
Speaker 1: in such the driver's seat in this like there is
Speaker 1: not I can't see unless there's a catastrophi injury. I
Speaker 1: cannot see a scenario where he doesn't come out winning.
Speaker 1: And here's why. Think about in the last four years
Speaker 1: as a cowboy and cowboy money, he's made about four
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars right and just salary, He's
Speaker 1: made probably somewhere between fifty to seventy five million dollars
Speaker 1: in endorsements. That's that's that's money. That's his money. Now
Speaker 1: you add thirty one million that Nate said, that's cold
Speaker 1: hard cash. So when you look at the end of
Speaker 1: the end of the deal, like he's sitting at it
Speaker 1: right now, where I got one hundred million dollars of money,
Speaker 1: that not not I got one hundred percent money of
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars. He's done enough in this league
Speaker 1: in the last four years with the Dallas Cowboys that
Speaker 1: if nothing ever again it gets worked out with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: someone's going to give him at least another hundred million
Speaker 1: dollar contract. Look across the board, there are a couple
Speaker 1: of teams who will be looking for a veteran quarterback
Speaker 1: in the next couple of years. Tom Brady can't play
Speaker 1: that much longer. Drew Brees can't play that much longer.
Speaker 1: Flip Rivers can't play that much longer, can't play that
Speaker 1: much longer. Big Ben can't play that much longer. And
Speaker 1: a lot of these teams are in positions and have
Speaker 1: rosters that are still competing rosters. So that's five that
Speaker 1: is nat off the top, so that in the next
Speaker 1: year or so, if they don't get a deal done,
Speaker 1: then he'll get thirty seven. The next year, that's one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty seven plus some more endorsements that he'll get.
Speaker 1: So that's another let's say another one hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: that he has in cold hard cash, and then someone
Speaker 1: will give him a year after that another one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars deal whatever. So we're talking about
Speaker 1: him leaving this deal at the end of the day
Speaker 1: when he all hangs it up around three hundred something
Speaker 1: million dollars, if not more, if not more than that.
Speaker 1: So I think that looks at this and go, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I've done enough and have a I have a body
Speaker 1: of work where someone across this league is going to
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be honest with you. Look at a team,
Speaker 1: like a team like the Browns. If Baker Mayfield gonna
Speaker 1: start getting his stuff together, they're gonna be looking to
Speaker 1: ship him up out of there too. So there's teams
Speaker 1: all across the board. Man, I want to go to
Speaker 1: the Jets, you know, I don't know. I'm just saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: there are there are teams all across the board who
Speaker 1: are going to be looking. The Chicago Bears, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be another team's gonna be looking. There'll be seven, eight, nine, ten,
Speaker 1: teen that will be looking for a quarterback and be like,
Speaker 1: I remember this guy, he's a guy that we want
Speaker 1: to give another four year, five year deal to one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars, one hundred and seventy million dollars,
Speaker 1: whatever the number is. That's like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say all the right things. I ain't sweating it
Speaker 1: I've put in enough work. I'm going to leave this
Speaker 1: thing at the end of the day. From a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick, a fourth round pick, I'm going to leave
Speaker 1: this thing when I'm done playing with this game. Earned
Speaker 1: somewhere around two hundred, two hundred and fifty to three
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in cash. Now, I don't know about y'all.
Speaker 1: I don't know about y'all. I don't know how y'all
Speaker 1: bank won't go. But if you're telling me that in
Speaker 1: ten years I can earn up to maybe two hundred
Speaker 1: to three hundred million dollars, you think I'm getting a
Speaker 1: press conference and have my face all turned up. No,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what it is, what it is,
Speaker 1: I know what my future is. Unless there's a catastrophic injury.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing, that's the only thing that that
Speaker 1: breaks this down. And even if it does, one hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars is still not a bad constellation process. Because
Speaker 1: the Cowboys said, we have a team that is ready
Speaker 1: to win. We had we brought in a coach that
Speaker 1: is ready to win. Everything you've done, you've you've enhanced
Speaker 1: that chances of being success. So the Jones is noticed
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, once this season over with, you
Speaker 1: would see a flurry from the Joneses end like we've
Speaker 1: never seen before. But that can still sit back and
Speaker 1: staying packing. Can I want he gonna say that, y'all
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay me. I'm with you, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying the urgency from the Joneses we have not seen.
Speaker 1: We would not have seen this before I got. I
Speaker 1: understand Jesse. I'm not going to get Jesse because I
Speaker 1: would be dropped a few of them proms on the
Speaker 1: side of the road. Listen, listen them up. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm gonna be right here. Put me
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, I want to touch the
Speaker 1: him and his guard. Let me get Yeah, just grace.
Speaker 1: I want the grace. Give me a little graces and
Speaker 1: I meet some grace, grace. Whatever. What y'all are saying
Speaker 1: to all the fans out there that are like man,
Speaker 1: I hope Dak doesn't play this year mad at the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and then he doesn't come back and sign a deal
Speaker 1: next year. Jesse, you're saying, he's okay, he's good, good good,
Speaker 1: He's good. He ain't mad, He ain't mad. Man. You've
Speaker 1: seen his house have you seen a picture of his house?
Speaker 1: Oh ye, back, y'all think about yeah. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: he got Walkoles, he partnered with Walkoles, he got nut
Speaker 1: jets and all the coup man. Listen, He's like, okay, y'all,
Speaker 1: that's why he was able to sit back and go
Speaker 1: here's what I want. I can't get it. All right, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm good. This is Jesse. This is a new move.
Speaker 1: Grace please Bush, Chris put him to Grace all. We
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. We gotta stay old schedule.
Speaker 1: Let Chris get back to work. So Nay, it's so
Speaker 1: good seeing you again. Jesse's so good. Here your boys
Speaker 1: so good, Curt, guys kid hanging out Manday. Please please
Speaker 1: join us on Monday. We will be back on Mondays
Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock, our normal time. We're gonna be once
Speaker 1: a week through training camp, and then I think we'll
Speaker 1: go daily once the regular season starts. Join us every
Speaker 1: Monday eleven o'clock. I will bring you a dad joke
Speaker 1: every time we have the show. Is my gift to you. Uh.
Speaker 1: Jesse will will stay long when did Nate will have
Speaker 1: some great insight and Kurt will just try to ask
Speaker 1: some questions to get nay on the roll about Zeke.
Speaker 1: At some point. We guarantee all those things will happen
Speaker 1: every show, So for now, have some grace on this
Speaker 1: show and tune in on Monday. We will be back.
Speaker 1: So good being with you guys. Thank you, thank you Chris,
Speaker 1: thanks to Wingsap. We appreciate the food. Be gracious, and
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