1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: How do you think it came that you were arrested 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: for something that seems so patently incongruous with our constitutional 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: rights to free speech. Well, i'll tell you corrupt police. Uh, 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: corrupt police trying to protect one of their buddy's girlfriends. 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: And I think that they thought it would just scare me. 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: There are No Girls on the Internet. As a production 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio and Unboss Creative, I'm Bridget Todd 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: and this is there are No Girls on the Internet. 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: People talk a lot about threat to free speech without 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: mentioning the reality that the people who are most likely 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: to face consequences, but the things they say online are 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: people who are already marginalized. And Cocoa brisco a former 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: comedian living in Arlington, Virginia, who was arrested last year 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: for making TikTok's, is a great example of what I 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: mean him. I'm Coco Briscoe Man, I'm a TikToker. The 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: story of Coco's arrest starts out in a pretty unlikely place, 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: the search for love. Coco was new to the city 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: and was going on a lot of dates, so she 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: started chronicling them, and a TikTok series called Dating in 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: DC I live in d C. I live in Columbia Heights. 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm not single now, but when I was single, I 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: remember what a I don't know, uh particular place dating 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: in DC is. And so I really appreciated your content 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, yeah, dating in DC can 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: be kind of a healthscape. And so watching your content, 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: I really felt for you. I mean that not all 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: of your dates were bad, but I really felt like 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: what it was like to be dating and be like, 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: oh God, am I ever going to find the one? 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: So I always appreciated your content. Thank you so much. 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: So I was watching your saga, and I know that 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: you've probably gotten quite good at describing what happened in 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: sixty seconds. But you were, you know, someone who just 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: made these lighthearted TikTok's about your your dating life finding 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: love in d C. And you were and that actually 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: resulted in you being arrested for making TikTok's. Can you 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: tell us what happened? Yes, So you're right. My series 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: was just about dating. It was very lighthearted. It was 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: about um online dating and going on my dates and 40 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: just about my dating adventures. UM. I used to be 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: a stand up comedian and so when I talked about 42 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: my dates. I do have a sense of humor behind it. 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: I don't take dating super seriously. Although I am truly 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: looking for a relationship. I'm looking for love. So I 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: started doing it with no expectation that anyone was even 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: gonna watch it. I thought it was just gonna be 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: my friends and family and maybe some random people in 48 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: the internet, and it it grew pretty quickly. But it 49 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: was really fun in the beginning because I felt like 50 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: I had kind of like a cult following, like it 51 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: was like a very specific type of person and I 52 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: felt that my audience really related to me. I felt 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: like they were close in my age range. I felt 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: like they understood the struggle, and so it felt like 55 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: just talking to my friends. I was just coming on 56 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: talking to my friends about my dating life. And so, 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: as you know, you said, you did quite a bit 58 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: of dating before you got into your relationships. The hell 59 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: on Earth, it can be um and it gets expensive, 60 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: you know. I mean a lot of times men are 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: gentlemen and offer to pay um. But also there's a 62 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: lot involved in you know, buying new outfits or ubering 63 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: to and from a different neighborhood d C and the 64 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: surrounding areas. It's a big area, so I was spending 65 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: a lot of money on cab fare and stuff. So 66 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: I decided to start going to local places. I also 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: thought it would be a good opportunity to support local 68 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: businesses in my neighborhood as well as keep me safe 69 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: because dating can be sketchy. Luckily, I hadn't had any 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: super sketchy dating experiences, but it could happen, and so 71 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: I thought, if I go to local places, then they'll 72 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: recognize me and they'll know what I'm doing, that I'm 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: on a date, they'll see me going on dates, and 74 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: so if anything weird ever happened, this is just a 75 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: familiar place to me. And it was all great. That 76 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: was working out really great because I was going to places, 77 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: walking to and from my house, and all of a 78 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: sudden things started getting very weird in my neighborhood. I 79 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: am new to this area. Um, I didn't know many people. 80 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: I hadn't really no one had really befriended me locally, 81 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: but all of a sudden, kind of slowly, people started 82 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: to know who I was, like knowing my name, and 83 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: I was I was feeling like I was getting stared 84 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: at a lot. I was feeling like a lot of 85 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: people were showing up. The same groups of people were 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: showing up everywhere that I was, and I just thought 87 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: it was a coincidence. It was weird, Um, but I thought, 88 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, this is kind of I'm on Columbia Pike 89 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: in Arlington. There's four bars the neighborhood. People go to 90 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: the same four bars. Not that weird. Now, People like 91 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: me loved following the ups and downs of Cocoho's dating 92 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: journeys on TikTok, but some people that she encountered in 93 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: real life didn't have that same response. Some of them 94 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: are actually really hostile. Basically, the response was who does 95 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: she think she is? Slowly people started saying things to me. Um. 96 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: If someone introduced to me to someone, they're like, I 97 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: know who you are, Coco, I've seen your TikTok and 98 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: I was like oh. But it was never in a 99 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: friendly way. It was always in a like yeah, I've 100 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: seen your TikTok and like, why are these people watching 101 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: my TikTok. My TikTok wasn't that popular at the time. 102 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: It's not like everyone watches my TikTok. I, Like I said, 103 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: I had kind of a cult falling, and so it 104 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: just kind of got slowly got weirder and weirder and weirder, 105 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: and then finally, uh, someone told me about this group 106 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: chat that was going on that has about fifty people 107 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: in my neighborhood who all were kind of local yogl 108 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: like this is their territory, I think, was their feeling, 109 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: and who's this girl coming from California doing this TikTok 110 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: going on all these day dates? Like it was a 111 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: very much the energy was who the hell does she 112 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: think she is? Like that's the kind of energy I 113 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: was getting from these people. And when I was told 114 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: about the group chat, I originally thought it was just 115 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of people watching my TikTok's and making fun 116 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: of it, like look at this stupid girl, she goes 117 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: on a lot of dates, like what a loser, And 118 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: I didn't really care. I thought it was really lame 119 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: and uncool. Um. But then it got scary because I 120 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: realized that some of the employees of these bars that 121 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: I was going to, we're letting this group chat know 122 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: every time that I was in the bar. Coco's in here, guys, um. 123 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: And it was a variation of things that were being 124 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: set what a stupid wore. Um, let's banquish her from 125 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: Columbia Pike. I'm gonna end her who chooses violence tonight, 126 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: Let's let's And they just they kept mentioning the word 127 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: a violence. And I get that that's a figure of speech, 128 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: right like I choose violence. But the way they were 129 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: speaking about me, the way they were speaking about my body, 130 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: the way that the language behind it, and there was 131 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: so much I didn't share on TikTok. I have multiple 132 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: screenshots lots of conversations between these people, which, in a 133 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: way I wish I hadn't ever found out about it, 134 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: but I'm glad I did because I think if this 135 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: behavior had continued, it could have gotten very dangerous. I 136 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: think that kind of group uh gang mentality of we 137 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: all have this common enemy bond can really lead to 138 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: dangerous situations, especially for women. Finding out that there was 139 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: a group of people from her neighborhood in a group 140 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: chat saying these kinds of things about her understandably made 141 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: Coco feel unsafe. But then the conversation turned to tracking 142 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: her specific whereabouts. One day, a bartender at one of 143 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: the bars she frequented for dates took a video of 144 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: Coco riding her bike down the street and posted it 145 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: in the group chat. Coco had had enough. I was 146 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: shocked when I saw that one of the bartenders had 147 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: taken a video of me riding my bike down the street. 148 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: I had walked into the bar. I was looking for 149 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: a friend of mine. I just glanced in. I was like, Oh, 150 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: my friend's not in here. I got on my bicycle 151 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: and I was on my way. I was riding home. 152 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: It was late at night, and she had taken this 153 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: video and said a bunch of really disgusting things to 154 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: these people that call me, discussing names and which, by 155 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: the way, I do not know these people. I have 156 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: no personal relationship with any of these people. Um. And 157 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: I was horrified, and so I went to the bar owner. 158 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: I felt like I had a decent relationship with him. 159 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: He had always been pretty nice to me, and I 160 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: had never had any type of There was never a 161 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: situation with any of these people or any of these 162 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: places where there was any type of friction. I was 163 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: just a paying customer going on my dates, having a 164 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: drink and some food and leaving. That was the entire thing. 165 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: And when I went to the bar owner, I was like, Oh, 166 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: he's going to be horrified that his employee did this, 167 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: because I would. I would be like, this person is fired. 168 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: This is unacceptable. And instead of saying I'm so sorry 169 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: that happened to you, Coco, UM, we do not condone 170 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: this kind of behavior. You've been a great customer. I 171 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: will handle this, he screamed in my face and said, 172 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: if you don't feel safe in my bar, then you 173 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: never have to come back. Um. And I was shocked 174 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: that that was his reaction. After being made aware of 175 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: the kinds of conversations happening about her, Coco failed a 176 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: police report, and she was actually the first person in 177 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: the situation to contact law enforcement, but she says it 178 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: didn't really go anywhere. The police basically blew her off, 179 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: and after getting such a hostile reaction from the bar manager, 180 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: she felt like she didn't have a ton of options. 181 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: So she took to TikTok and used her platform, which 182 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: had once been about a lighthearted chronicling of her dates, 183 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: to talk about what she was experiencing. So I took 184 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: to social media and I said, this really crazy stuff 185 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: is going on in my neighborhood and I don't know 186 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: what to do. About it. I didn't know what to 187 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: do about it. I didn't say the name of the bars. 188 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: I didn't say the name of any of these people 189 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: other than a first name, because it was in the 190 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: screen shop from the chat. Well after I made the 191 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: very first video saying this, bartender took a video of 192 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: me leaving on my way home at night and send 193 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: it to a bunch of people that talked about violence 194 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: against me and call me names and our bullies and 195 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: stalkers in my opinion, because they followed me around. Um, 196 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: I was like, this is what's happening, and I don't 197 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: know what to do. This woman filed a protective order 198 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: against me, okay, preventing me from making TikTok's talking about 199 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: the situation. Even though I didn't even know the woman's 200 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: last name. I didn't know anything about her, and I 201 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: didn't say the name of the bar. Four police officers 202 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: show up at my house with a protective order at 203 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: four a m. I'm a single woman, I live alone. 204 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: You need four caps with a protective order and four 205 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: I am four am. And this is an e p O. 206 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: This isn't just like, oh, I've been harassing someone for 207 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: a long period time. This is an emergency protective order 208 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: meant to protect people from immediate danger. So and I 209 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: was on there making a TikTok, going this is creepy, 210 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: this creepy thing happy and this woman felt the need 211 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: to do what she did. And and I truly don't 212 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: believe it's because she was afraid. Um, I truly believe 213 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: it's because And I have screenshots from her saying ha 214 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: ha ha, Coco is gonna get it. I have a 215 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: police officer boyfriend. I love this for her bragging about it, 216 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: begging about how they were gonna end me and they 217 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: were gonna do so I was like, wow, this is 218 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: this is really messed up, Like really the Arlington police 219 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: are going to show up at my house and do 220 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: this like this is ludicrous. And I was like, wait 221 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: till TikTok, here's about this. And and I'd like to 222 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: say I had already filed a police report about these people, 223 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: and I didn't think anything was gonna come of it. 224 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: And it wasn't necessarily to even get anyone in trouble. 225 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: It was just like, hey, Arlington police, this group of 226 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: weirdos is doing this to me. So in case someone 227 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: decides to un alive me, here's what's going on, and 228 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: here's the people involved in this, and they didn't take 229 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: it seriously. They didn't investigate the in fact, never returned 230 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: my phone calls. So the Arlington p D not only 231 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: didn't care that fifty people had been harassing me and 232 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: talking about violence against me, didn't give a ship, didn't 233 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: call me back, but they feel the need to issue 234 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: a protective order and show up at my house to 235 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: prevent me from speaking out about people that are doing 236 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: something really disgusting to me. I was like wow, and 237 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: I truly thought it was a joke. I was like, 238 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, once I post this on TikTok, these 239 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: people are going to leave me the hell alone, because 240 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: the whole world is gonna go what you can't do that? 241 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: And of course TikTok did have the reaction, They're like 242 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: what And then there's a whole slew of women saying 243 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't get a protective order against a man that 244 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: was physically abusing me for months years, and it's it 245 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: was just breaking my heart and I was like, this 246 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: is such a complete abuse of the system. It's disgusting. 247 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break at her back. Now opened 248 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: all this point, Coco had not publicly said the names 249 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: of any of the bars involved. But after being served 250 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: with the protective order filed by the bartender who took 251 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: the video of her riding her bike down the street, 252 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: barring her from talking about situation on social media, Coco 253 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: said fuck it and made a TikTok naming the bars 254 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: open up Police. That's when the police showed up at 255 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: our door again, this time to put her in handcuffs 256 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: and take her to jail for violating the protective order. 257 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: So after that, I was like, so, these people are 258 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: not only going to uh continue to harass me, but 259 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: the owners of the bars are gonna do nothing. The 260 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: police are gonna do nothing. The police are gonna harass me. Well, 261 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm telling where these bars are because if this is 262 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: what they do to women, people need to avoid these places. 263 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: So I said the name of the bars. Then I 264 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: got another protective order again. Police show up at my house. 265 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: I think it was like five in the morning this time, 266 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: but it was only two cops, but they come banging 267 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: on my door and I got cop dock. Yeah, just 268 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: banging on the police. Oh really, And I'm just sitting 269 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: in my freaking bathrobe like, what are you kidding? And 270 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: I have video of the entire thing. I opened the door. 271 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: First of all, I couldn't see through the Like when 272 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: I look through the people, police don't stand where you 273 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: can see them. These were standing on opposite sides of 274 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: the door. I was like, I cannot see you. How 275 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: do I know this is the police? How do I 276 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: know this could be one of these creepy people from 277 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: the group check coming to you know and alive me. 278 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: So I put on my camera and I video the 279 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: entire thing, and I was like, what did I do? Like, 280 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to tell me what I did to 281 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: deserve a protective order. They were like, we don't know, 282 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: we don't know what. We're just here to serve it um, 283 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: which is a lie because that officer actually was the 284 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: one who was monitoring my TikTok's She was with the 285 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: woman to get her the second restraining order. Who by 286 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: the way, this woman's boyfriend is an Arlington police officer, 287 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: so these are his buddies doing his dirty work for him. 288 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: And I was just like, this is ridiculous. I was 289 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: like this, you can't do this to me. This is 290 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: against my First Amendment rights. I can talk about whatever 291 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: I want. I have done nothing wrong, And I was like, 292 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: I don't know weight a rounds because I'm about to 293 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: TikTok this. I was like, you know, are they gonna 294 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: arrest me like that? I had this like fifty fifty like, 295 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean they could because technically I'm violating this thing. Um, 296 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: but I was like, really, are they gonna are the 297 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: Arlington police is gonna sit there and watch everything I do? 298 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: And they sure did, and they came back and arrested me, 299 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: and uh, they sent five police to arrest a TikToker. 300 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: Five cops, so in a number of eleven total police 301 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: that had to deal with me for just making TikTok's. 302 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like, we have too many cops in Arlington. 303 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: So I'm like, you feel the need to harass me 304 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: this much, then we gotta we gotta do something about this. 305 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: Y'all need to be defunded. I don't know, but I'm like, 306 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: do not make me the criminal when you are not 307 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: doing anything about the real people who are harassing women. Um. Anyway, 308 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: that's a very long waited direction. I don't know if 309 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: you're expecting all of that, but that's basically the gist 310 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: and there's so many little nuances like so there were 311 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: so many like little side stories of people in this 312 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: group who um did approach me in person and screaming 313 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: my face and threaten me. Their friends have sent me 314 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: tons of d m s and created fig accounts to 315 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: harass me. I mean it has it's NonStop around the 316 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: clock and uh. And these people were pushing really hard 317 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: to have me prosecuted for violating these protective orders, which 318 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: in my first court hearing, uh, the judge said he 319 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: was just like so confused. He's like, how did these 320 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: even get issued? You cannot get an emergency protective order 321 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: unless you're in danger. I knew this, which is why 322 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: in my moment of you know, about to go to sleep, 323 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: had wine all night, go and can arrest me, Like 324 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: I don't get I know, I look like a maniac. 325 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: And I know half a million people saw that and 326 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: we're like, this girl isn't saying I was insane. In 327 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: that moment, I was like I cannot do this with 328 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: these people, Like how many times are you going to 329 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: send cops in my house in the middle of the night, 330 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: early in the morning two to do this? Like No, 331 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: I felt like I was losing my mind, and I 332 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: probably was. Coco was arrested for violating a protective order 333 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: barring her from speaking about her experiences with the staff 334 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: at two Virginia Bars. But is an order saying that 335 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: you can't talk about someone on social media constitutional? In 336 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: an article about Coco's case, The Washington Post spoke to 337 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: Eugene Voloc, a legal scholar at U c l A, 338 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: who said an order that says stop talking about this 339 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: person is unconstitutional no matter who you are. Yet, Voloc, 340 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: who has been tracking these kinds of orders, says he 341 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: has identified more than two hundred of them. The Post 342 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: also spoke to Vera Idleham, a staff attorney with the 343 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: a c l U, who said, while speech to someone might, 344 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: in certain circumstances properly be deemed as harassment if it 345 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: is unwanted, the same does not hold true for speech 346 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: about someone, even if it's unwanted, because think about it, anyone, 347 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: from racist police to corrupt elected officials, could use that 348 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: to stifle legitimate criticism about them. One of the reasons 349 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: why I wanted to talk to you was exactly that 350 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: part of the story. Right, I'm I should say, I'm 351 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: no lawyer, I'm no legal expert, but from all the 352 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: legal experts that I've heard from, including the one in 353 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: the Washington Post article about your situation, unless somebody is 354 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: threatening violence or knowingly spreading false information, you cannot tell 355 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: them that they can't make social media content about a 356 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: specific person. Right. So, like the fact that you were 357 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: arrested for making TikTok's that did not include violent threats 358 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: or you know knowingly, you know, knowingly false information seems 359 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: to be unconstitutional. And that that that Washington Post piece 360 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: sites an a c l U attorney and a U 361 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: c l A legal scholar that say that, And it 362 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: seems like the courts agreed. First of all, a how 363 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: are you not the poster child for the First Amendment 364 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: and free speech online? And second, how do you think 365 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: it came that you were arrested for something that seems 366 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: so patently incongruous with our constitutional rights to free speech? Well, 367 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: i'll tell you corrupt police. Uh, corrupt police trying to 368 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: protect one of their buddy's girlfriends. And I think that 369 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: they thought it would just scare me. I think that 370 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: they thought, oh, well, if we show up with this 371 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: protective order, that'll shut her up. Four cops at four am. 372 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: That'll scare the ship out of her. And it didn't. 373 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: Because I was like, this is ludicrous. It did shut 374 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: me up for three days. I didn't go online, and 375 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I guess I should obey this 376 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: because these people are gonna do anything they can to 377 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: have me arrested. But I think the reason I'm not 378 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: the poster child is because the police really messed up. 379 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: And I think that the press isn't talking about it 380 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: because it's a big deal, and I think that there's 381 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: so much to it that, um, I think there's a 382 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: little scared. I really do. I mean Arlington Now, our 383 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: local paper here in Arlington three articles about my arrest. 384 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: The third one was about the restaurant saying, oh, Celtic 385 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: House wants to move past the controversy. Well, good for them. 386 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: I don't because I didn't get an apology. These people 387 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: humiliated me in the press. They wrote press releases saying 388 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm a liar. The only thing that I couldn't back 389 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: up is I said that she got my address from 390 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: my idea and credit card, and when the restraining order 391 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: was filed, it said she didn't know the address. I 392 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: did not. I did not know that because they had 393 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: my address. Um, but that that's the only thing I 394 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: could figure she knew my full name. She kept writing 395 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: about my full name in the group chat. She kept saying, 396 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: call her this, call her this, this is her legal name. 397 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: And her friends who were approaching me were saying, we 398 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: know your full legal name, and we've googled you and 399 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 1: we're going to like we're gonna find out everything about you. 400 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: We're going to destroy you. Like it was just so 401 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: high school mean girls. But the reason I'm not the 402 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: poster child for this was everybody wants me to shut 403 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: the hell up because this is and you know, and 404 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: me talking about it as openly as I am, Um, 405 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: probably isn't what they want either, But they're not gonna 406 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: shut me up. Uh you know. They have said, well, 407 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: they can bring the case back at any time. Okay, Um, 408 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: what did I do wrong? I made it TikTok saying 409 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: somebody filed a restraining order illegally against me, Like, I'm sorry, 410 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: but that doesn't feel like breaking the law to me. 411 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: And the argument that people have made in my comments 412 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: was well, it was in effect when you broke it. Yeah, 413 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: but how many we're gonna get filed how many times? 414 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: She filed one in Fairfax County. She filed one in 415 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: Arlington County because I'm sure Fairfax was like, why are 416 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: you getting all these epos against someone who's done nothing 417 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: to you. I'm sure they wouldn't grant a second one. 418 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the judge has already said, now again no 419 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: basis for this. But if I hadn't spoken out about it, 420 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: how many times? And I keep saying that over and over, 421 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm just like that will make up person crazy when 422 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: you know you're not breaking the law and they're using 423 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: this my you know, police resources on you me Like 424 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm like literally the least dangerous person on planet Earth. 425 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: Like I couldn't fight myself up my way out of 426 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: a wet paper bag, you know, Like I'm not out 427 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: here in the streets throwing hands like this is. But 428 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: these people, like it was so interesting about all of 429 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: it to me is that instead of apologizing to me, 430 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: instead of taking responsibility, because like, look, it's not every 431 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: single employee of the bars, right, So if they just said, wow, um, 432 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: so these claims have been made, the girl has the 433 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: woman has the evidence. We're sorry that happened. We're dealing 434 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: with it. We're investigating, we're gonna make sure it doesn't 435 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: happen again. That would have been the end of it, 436 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: but these people are they're relentless, and so they took 437 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: to the media originally saying that, uh, the only reason 438 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: they did it was to warn people that I was coming. 439 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: Where is you, Like, I have witnesses and everyone in 440 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: my neighborhood, well everybody that like has been around me 441 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: a good amount. They're like, we didn't believe one word 442 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: of what was written in there. Not one word. They're like, 443 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: we know you. We all were like, that's not Coco, Like, 444 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: there's no way this is true. So people who know 445 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 1: me know it's not true. But um, yeah, I mean 446 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: so yeah. Originally they're saying, oh, we just did it 447 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: to warn people. Bartenders do that, Yeah, bartenders do that 448 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: if there's like a drunk person coming into a bar 449 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: that shouldn't be served, that that is to keep people safe. 450 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: But that's not the conversation. And I have the conversation. 451 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: This conversation is about humiliating me, calling me names, bullying me. 452 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: There is not one thing concerned about my safety. In fact, 453 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: it's all about putting my safety in Jeopardy. I even 454 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: have a screenshot from one of the other bartenders from 455 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: another bar not related to these two places, saying, hey, guys, 456 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: f y I cocos in here. Do not come in 457 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: here and be dicks. So he knew that these people 458 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: were after me, right, and so I'm like, I have 459 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: all of this evidence. So they just kept like raising 460 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: the like just raising mistakes. They were like, yo, it's 461 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: just we were trying to keep her safe. And then 462 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: it was she's violent and she attacks people, and I'm 463 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: like okay, and then they were like, the only way 464 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: she found out about the group chat is because she 465 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: drugged someone and took their phone. And I'm like, my god, 466 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: they have ten witnesses to the guy who gave me 467 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: the screenshots of the group chat. There were ten people 468 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: there who were my friends because we had been out 469 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: um together, and they pressured him to give me the screenshots. 470 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: We didn't bully him. We were like, you need to 471 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: like give her these so she has the evidence because 472 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: she can't back up her story without it. So I'm like, 473 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: but it was just on and on and on, and 474 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, just leave me alone, good lord. Anyway, after 475 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: Coco started speaking up, about her experiences at the bars, 476 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: experiences that she says made her feel unsafe in her 477 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: own neighborhood. Someone created a TikTok account dedicated to calling 478 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: her a liar. I've seen the way these people are 479 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: like almost obsessed, Like there's TikTok accounts, Like somebody has 480 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: made a TikTok account solely dedicated to you too. So 481 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: like when we say things like, oh, like they seem 482 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: like they're obsessed with me. That's that's how I would 483 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: describe if somebody had if somebody spent their time making 484 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: lots and lots of content just about me and how 485 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: much they didn't like me, I would use the word 486 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: I would feel like they were obsessed with me. And 487 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: I've actually given this a lot of thought, and it's 488 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: not a fully fleshed out idea, but I think there is. 489 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: I think there's something to this idea that you were 490 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: not willing to shut up, that you are like assertive 491 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: and confident and like are able to be like no, 492 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: I am going to advocate for my own safety. And 493 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't really care if you like it or not. 494 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: I don't really care if you wanted to be to 495 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: shut up. I don't really care if it makes me 496 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: look If you're gonna make me look crazy, I'm going 497 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: to advocate for my safety. I think there is something 498 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: about that that makes them even that that makes them 499 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: even more were like relentless, right. I think that like 500 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: they really expected you to be scared off or to 501 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: like not say anything, like I know in my in 502 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: my life when I've had times where somebody was mistreating me, 503 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: when I when I stood up and said no, it 504 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: made it like they were not expecting that. And I 505 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: think there's something about you that like it just gets 506 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: under their skin that you're confident and assertive and that 507 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: you're not willing to just like lay that and take 508 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: it and be humiliated. You're like not willing to let 509 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: them do this to you. And I think it makes 510 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: them that much more angry and that much more like 511 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: obsessed with you and obsessed with like I don't know, 512 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: there's something about the way they talk about you online 513 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: where it feels like they're obsessed with like taking you 514 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: down a peg or like you know, putting you into 515 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: your place. It feels it feels very like um, I 516 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: don't even know the word for it. They seem like 517 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: they're very interested in like humbling you in this very 518 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: specific way that I think is very much rooted in 519 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: like misogyny or like sexism. It just seems very I 520 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: can't quite describe it, but do you know what I'm saying? Yes, 521 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: I do, And that that was actually the word I 522 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: was always using. That these people are completely misogynistic, you 523 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: know the things that they have said to my face, 524 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: Like the way that they insult me. It's always about 525 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: my age. I'm thirty nine, crawl into a grain and 526 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: die dating and single and not be home taking care 527 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: of ten kids and like washing my husband's laundry. Like 528 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: it's like that's the way they talk to me. Um, 529 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: And several of them have been like, we know you're 530 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: on TikTok and your thirty nine, Like grow up, you're 531 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: so disgusting, like they it's just always about my age. Um, 532 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: that's like the main thing. And but yeah, the energy 533 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: is very much like who do you think you are? 534 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: Why do you think you can do this? And I 535 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: think my series has always been authentic, like I'm not 536 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: on there being like oh look at me, I'm hot 537 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: ship and I get all these hot guys cause I'm 538 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: so perfect. No, I go on there and I am 539 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: talking about guys ghost me and things happen and my 540 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: love life is not perfect. My life is not perfect. 541 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: I am not perfect. I make mistakes on dates. I 542 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: embarrass myself accidentally, Like so there's no need to knock 543 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: me down a peg like I'm I feel like I'm 544 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: already pretty humble. I'm putting embarrassing stories online, like I 545 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: tell my audience when I like almost ship my pants 546 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: in a target parking buck. I'm not on here just 547 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: acting like I'm a little miss perfect because I'm not. 548 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: And so this commitment that these people have to just 549 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: they're trying to cancel me, and I'm like, why just 550 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: stop watching me Like I'm not. It's not like I'm 551 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: making a ton of money and they have something to 552 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: completely be jealous about. Like I live in a studio 553 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: apartment in bunk Buck, Arlington, Virginia. I'm dating a bunch 554 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: of weirdos like Dason so Loek on someone else like 555 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm not the one, But yeah, I mean the dedication 556 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 1: to just shutting me up, to silencing me, to humiliating me. Um, 557 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: it's just like never ending. And they think, you know 558 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: they called their well, actually I don't even want to 559 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: say with their pages, God, because I don't want ever 560 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: promote it at all. But there, you know, their whole 561 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: platform is trying to say that I'm endangering people I 562 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: speaking out about how they treated me. They're like, well, 563 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: we're getting prink phone calls that our business. Well good, 564 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm fucking glad that people are calling and telling 565 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: you exactly what they think of you, because you're disgusting 566 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: and you shouldn't be treating your customers this way. You 567 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: shouldn't be treating women this way. So I don't care. 568 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: But you know, the woman that has raised the biggest buss, 569 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: the one that you know filed the protective orders against me, 570 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: admitted in the court of law that not only have 571 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: I never threatened her, that none of my followers have 572 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: ever threatened her, and that she's never had any contact 573 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 1: with me at all whatsoever. Ever, other than other than 574 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: once she was taking a video of me and Georgetown. 575 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: She walked past my t able and took a video 576 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: of me, and I approached her. She was with her 577 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: police officer boyfriend, and I said, I just saw you 578 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: take a video of me. Please do not share my 579 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: location with your creepy friends. I know what you guys 580 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: are doing. I do not appreciate it. And I was like, 581 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: what you're doing is illegal, and she looked at her 582 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: police officer boyfriend really freaked out, was like, is it 583 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: is it illegal? And he was like, I don't know, 584 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: Like he just didn't know what to say. And my 585 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: friend who was with me, was like, well, if it's 586 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: not illegal, you should at least lose your job for 587 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: doing that to your customer. And that's always said. So 588 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: that's the only time that I have ever spoken to 589 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: that woman in my entire life. I do not know 590 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: anything about her. The bottom line is that, you know, 591 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: for me now, I feel like my mission is to 592 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: raise awareness about other women who are going through similar things, 593 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: Like that's been kind of a mission I've been on 594 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: a little bit. And then also like you know, shedding 595 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: some light on this police situation more after a quick break. 596 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: So if you've ever wondered, I wonder what Bridget is 597 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: up to when she's not making the podcast that, I 598 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: have great news for you. We just launched our brand 599 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: new newsletter where I'm gonna be writing about things I'm 600 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: paying attention to online, interesting stories that didn't make it 601 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: to the podcast, and a whole lot more. I promise 602 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: you will never spam you. You can subscribe to our 603 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: newsletter at Tangdi dot com slash newsletter and it's gonna 604 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: be like a useful newsletter. I promise you can also 605 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 1: support the show by checking out our merch store at 606 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: tanti dot com slash store. Let's get right back into it. 607 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: This entire situation has made Coco ask tough questions about policing, 608 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: how police serve or fail to serve the communities that 609 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: are meant to be protecting, you know. And this is 610 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: something I have an addressed because I feel like it's 611 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: a delicate subject and it's a hard thing to talk about, 612 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: you know. But um acknowledging the privilege in being able 613 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: to get arrested and not having like a fear, you know. 614 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's something that did upset some people, 615 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: like look, she's laughing and being like, ha, come arrest me. 616 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: And in the moment, I didn't have to think about 617 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: what this would mean to other people. When I have 618 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: I have friends of color who were like Coco, you know, 619 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: one person said, we'll welcome to being black. This is 620 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: something that people feel happens to them a lot that 621 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: they're made to be criminals and they're being harassed by 622 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: the police, and so, you know, it's it's it's such 623 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: a touchy subject that I haven't figured out how to 624 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: really address. But I've just been trying to listen and 625 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: be open more with my friends. Um, one of my friends, 626 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 1: who is from Pakistan originally or his parents were, has 627 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: said he lives in a predominantly white town, a small 628 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: town in Virginia, and you know, he has said, when 629 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: I leave the bar at night, I have to be 630 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: extra careful, you know, where my white friends could just 631 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm leaving a bar, I'm drunk and 632 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: that's fine, and please don't harss. He's like, I've been 633 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: harassed multiple times by please just leaving a bar, not 634 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: even drunk, just leaving walking out of a bar and 635 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: being stopped just walking down the street and things like this. 636 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: And so you know, there's especially the last couple of years, 637 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: like there's just been so many issues with cops and 638 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: then and I'm just thinking to myself, like, we have 639 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: got to speak out about this because it can't just 640 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: keep happening. We can't keep using these resources to harass 641 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: and bully people, and whether it's because of the color 642 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: of your skin or because you piste off some cops boyfriend, 643 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be, it just can't happen. 644 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: Like it's got to stop because it's ludicrous. And I think, 645 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, that's the most upsetting part for me overall. 646 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: And the second most upsetting part is how the how 647 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: the media has handled it, especially the local media with 648 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: m A r L Now and all of their stuff. 649 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: It's funny, I didn't notice that A r L Now, 650 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, they had those, um three different articles about 651 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: the bars and this and that when you're case was 652 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: dismissed and you were vindicated, just a tiny little blurb, 653 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: no article, just like a tiny little of you know, 654 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: that story that we put We had, we had so 655 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: many articles on well update you know. No, No, it's 656 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: so interesting to me that they didn't feel the need 657 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: to write an entire story about the fact that, uh, 658 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: your proct protective order was deemed to be invalid. Um. Yeah, 659 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: it's I just found that interesting to me. That seems 660 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: like such a better story. Some TikTok or had a 661 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: spat with restaurants. Who gives a ship no one, No 662 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: one cares if some TikTok or had a spat with restaurants. Like, 663 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: that's not a story to me. This story is hey, uh, 664 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: illegal protective orders are being issued in multiple counties here 665 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: to her to further bully and harass a woman who 666 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: has made a police report about this. The police did 667 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: not help her, but they helped this woman who was 668 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: in fact harassing her. Like, how come we can't get 669 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: a story and we can't get a story saying, well, 670 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: Cocu Riscoe was telling the truth all along. It turns out, 671 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: and it turns out the charges have been this missed, 672 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: the case has been dismissed. It's all over. Yeah, she 673 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: can go back to doing dating TikTok and talk about 674 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: how you know this harassment of women needs to stop. 675 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: Maybe some good will come out of this. No no, no, no, 676 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: no no no article. In fact, all they do is 677 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: praise these bars plass the controversy. Well I'm not I'm 678 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: not moving past it, and I'm not moving past this 679 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: with Errol Now either, because um, they owe me an apology. 680 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah the article really are the Arlington Now coverage really 681 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: just it seems so obviously based on really misogynistic stereotypes, 682 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: like oh, she she's railing against this bar, and I 683 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: was like, well, someone who was speaking up and that's 684 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: something they experience, even using like the words they would 685 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: use basically seemed like the long form version of bitches 686 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: be crazy? Am I right? Like it just it just 687 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: seemed to like really rely on a lot of sexist 688 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: tropes about women, right absolutely. And the whole situation started 689 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: making me feel like I was going bananas because I'm like, 690 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: I'm the only person in this scenario that hadn't told 691 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: a lot, and I had a platform to demolish these people. 692 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: I could have gone on and just started making up 693 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: stories about these people, and but I didn't. I was like, 694 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: this is what they did, this is how they reacted, 695 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: here's my proof the end, and everyone else involved, I mean, 696 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: the woman who filed the protectibar is completely made up 697 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: ludicrous stories to tell in court. I'm like, she's lying 698 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: on the stand, like, I wish you could have been 699 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: in that courtroom seeing my reaction to these ludicrous things 700 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: this woman was saying. I was laughing out loud, like 701 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, am I getting the giggles 702 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 1: in court? Like this woman is insane? And my lawyer 703 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: at one point just like reached over and kind of 704 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: like squeeze. I was like, like, what is this what 705 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: it's saying? And I'm like, oh my god. The writers 706 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: for air L now right there, just gonna write everything 707 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: down that she says. And the woman is acting like 708 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: I have attacked her. She's like I am terrified of her. 709 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: I can't even look at her in the courtroom because 710 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: I made a TikTok telling people what you did to 711 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: me that makes you terrified, And she does this whole 712 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: elaborate story, and then my lawyer is like, but has 713 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: whoever threatened you at all or had any contact with you? 714 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: Don't know? Why are you so scared of people knowing 715 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: the truth about you? That's the fear. That was the fear. 716 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: And she's just not a nice person, and that's fine, 717 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to be a nice person who cares, 718 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: but do not send cops to my house and do 719 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: not publicly humiliate me and some lies. And I'm just 720 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: so angry at how nobody bothered to do research. Nobody 721 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: just bothered to see that I had been talking about 722 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: being afraid of these people for weeks, like I don't know, 723 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: it's I'm getting very heated when I talk about it, 724 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 1: because I just I don't know what to do about 725 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: Errol now. I just I want to, I don't know, 726 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: sue the pants off of them. After the courts dismissed 727 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: the protective order against her and prosecutors declined to pursue 728 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: the charges that she faced for violating it, Coco started 729 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: using her platform to become an advocate for other women 730 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: who have spoken of about facing unsafe situations at bars. 731 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: So there is some like I don't want to say 732 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: good coming out of it, but I know that recently 733 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: you've taken to using your platform to really help other 734 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: women who have had dangerous experiences at bars, trying to 735 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: get them, like, use your platform to get them some accountability. 736 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: You know. Can you tell me how that came to 737 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: be and how that's going. You know, that was never 738 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: my intention, although I you know, if I can be 739 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: of service and of help to these women, I absolutely 740 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: will use my platform too. That it wasn't even something 741 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: that I planned or thought of. Um, But after my 742 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: whole court situation, people got very interested in the story 743 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: and then people tag me in these videos. So these 744 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: are videos I haven't come up on my own. People 745 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: tag me and they're like, hey, Coco, this is either 746 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 1: similar to your story or look what's happening to this person. 747 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: And I was just kind of reacting to it, like, 748 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is like this is a trend, 749 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: this is happening. Um. There was the one bar in 750 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: Fuller Tin that is threatening to sue a woman who 751 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: got drugged and sexually assaulted in their bar. She took 752 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: to social media and was like, this bar is not 753 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: safe for people. She actually had UM, you did have 754 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: a medical exam and so she was in fact assaulted 755 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: UM a lot of times. And I heard this from 756 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: a nurse who specializes in doing the testing for women 757 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: who have been drugged and assaulted, who said, most of 758 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: the time, by the time they get to the testing, 759 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: the drugs are out of their system and they're not traceable. 760 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: So that you know, that's not always the thing people 761 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: can prove. They say, oh I got drugged, and then 762 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, the toxicology or whatever report comes back saying 763 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: that there isn't something in their system. I'm not a 764 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: doctor and I don't know, but this is just something 765 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: that was told to me, um from someone on to talk. 766 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: But anyway, yes, this bar is threatening. To sue this 767 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 1: woman for posting about it online. And I'm just like, wow, 768 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: like to me that it's just so disgusting. And that's 769 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: what the bars did to me. They took to the 770 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: media calling me a liar and then threatened to sue me, 771 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: and they had told the Washington Post that they were 772 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: thinking about filing a lawsuit. I'm like, for what, first, 773 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: saying your bar makes me feel unsafe? I can say 774 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: whatever I want. I mean, I can. We can take 775 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: to the internet be like their food sucks and the 776 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: place is disgusting and the service is awful. Like why 777 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: can't I say it's unsafe. That's not illegal. You cannot 778 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: sue me for saying that your bar makes me feel 779 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: unsafe and then showing proof of what you did to me, 780 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: Like come on, and yeah, there were things that I 781 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: initially when I talked to Washington Post couldn't fully back up. Um, 782 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: but I can now being tied in these videos. It 783 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: upsets me because I'm like, this is just incredibly common. 784 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: It's easy when you're going through something personally to feel 785 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: the weight of it all, to feel isolated, to feel 786 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: like it's only happening to you, and knowing that these 787 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: similar situations. Similar situations are happening in women everywhere across 788 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: the country. Um, I want to do everything I can 789 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,720 Speaker 1: to help them, and I want to help them avoid 790 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: my experience because it's bad enough, like each step of 791 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: the way for me was very humiliating and scary. But 792 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: then knowing that, you know, the newspapers are printing lies 793 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: about you, the police aren't willing to protect you, it's 794 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: like it's terrifying. And I consider myself to be a 795 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: pretty competent person and a pretty tough cookie, and this 796 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: whole situation was so mentally and emotionally damaging for me 797 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: that there were days that I couldn't get out of bed. 798 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: There were days I couldn't handle it. And you know, 799 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: these situations are happening to women much younger than me, 800 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: with not a following on TikTok that can stand behind 801 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: them like an army, you know, and not awesome people 802 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: saying please be on my podcast and tell your story, right, 803 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: so you know, we have to be voices for those people. 804 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I actually have a choice at 805 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: this point, because I can't ignore it now. I can't 806 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: just when people tag me in this, I can't just 807 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: be like, Oh, that's sad. Let me just go back 808 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: to talking about what I can't do it. I have 809 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 1: to address it. Um. So you know, the big question 810 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: now is will this become what my content is about? 811 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: And maybe I feel like as long as I'm being 812 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: tagged in these videos, as long as I'm aware of 813 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: a situation and I feel like I have something to 814 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 1: add or something to say that I will say it 815 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: and I'll speak out. Um. But yeah, I feel like this, 816 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: this whole situation has really turned my life into a 817 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: different direction than I was not expecting. And I do 818 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: feel the weight of that. And I have kind of 819 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: taken a break from social media a little bit recently 820 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: because it gets very overwhelming. UM. And I love I 821 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: love getting private messages from people. I love that they 822 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: share their stories with me, and I love UM, I 823 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: love reading the stuff. It's just a lot sometimes, so 824 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,919 Speaker 1: I have I'm still a person and TikTok isn't my job. 825 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it is my job. I guess that I 826 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: get paid for it, and you know, it's a little 827 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: bit um, But I'm also a person and I have 828 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: to cultivate my own personal relationships in my life, and 829 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to spend all day talking to strangers 830 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: on the internet. You know, I want to be with 831 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: the people in my life and love them. It's been 832 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to be the girl that's always on 833 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: her phone that's so insulting to people that I love. 834 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: When I'm out with my friends, out with my friends, Um, 835 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: when I'm on a date, on a date, I'm not 836 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: going to sit there and and TikTok, and you know 837 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: I do sometimes I make little videos of restaurants and stuff. 838 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not going to be replying to 839 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: all these comments all day long because I can't. And 840 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 1: so I try to read as many as I can 841 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: and reply to as many as I can without overwhelming 842 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: myself because I feel like, you know, when you're on 843 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: a platform like that, you grow so quickly. You're not prepared. 844 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: No one prepares you for what it feels like to 845 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: be bombarded with so much information and so many people 846 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: wanting to talk to you. And uh, it's a gift, really, 847 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: but it also kind of sometimes feels overwhelming. I can 848 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: only imagine. And I guess that's there's I mean talking 849 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 1: about like a happy ending, you know, following your content. 850 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: I know that you have a lot of like positive, 851 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 1: exciting things in your life and your real offline life developing. 852 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: And so it's kind of like a nice bookends to 853 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: the journey of you starting this this channel to chronicle 854 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: your your journey in d C looking for love, you know, UM, 855 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: having it, having it be in this point where you like, 856 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: are you seem like you're in a good place in 857 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: your real life? I am. I have been really blessed 858 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: with meeting so many wonderful people and actually most of 859 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: the people in my life currently I've met on TikTok, 860 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,240 Speaker 1: which is so weird, but they have become real life friends. 861 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: And my friends have been incredible supportive. I mean, this, 862 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: all of this stuff that has happened to me was 863 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: so much. UM. It was very emotional. UM and I 864 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: lost people in my life over it. There are people 865 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 1: that kind of distanced themselves. They were kind of scared 866 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: of this group of people, as I was scared of them, 867 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: because these people were harassing some of my friends as well. UM, 868 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: And people took a step back for me, and that 869 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: was one of the hardest things. But I understand, and 870 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: I can't ask anyone to fight my battles for me. 871 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: For me or even be here through that if it 872 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: makes them uncomfortable. But the friends of mine who have 873 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: stuck around are lovely and supportive women, and they're strong 874 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: and they're kind and they have my back. Um, I 875 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: have been doing well in my dating life. I have 876 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: met someone finally that who maybe looks at Carrie Styles here. Um, 877 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: he is wonderful. He's just such a kind man and 878 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 1: he has been really supportive about all of this. And 879 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: this is all of this was very scary to tell 880 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: people about, like, hey, I got arrested for making TikTok's 881 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: in the news makes me sound like a psycho, Like 882 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: it's a hard thing to bring into an already complicated 883 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: situation because dating is already difficult enough. But he was 884 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: very receptive and open to hearing my side, and he 885 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: has just been really wonderful. And it's still knew, so 886 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: who knows what's going to happen. But I feel like 887 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 1: I have a new friend in my life and somebody 888 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: who does care about me that I care about, and 889 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: I you know, I hope the best for us in 890 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: this journey going forward. It's so far, so good. Um. 891 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: I have started a new job that I like and 892 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: my My coworkers are lovely, and my boss seems to 893 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: be great, and so you know, it's now moving forward. 894 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to look for the good things and 895 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: that's trying. That's what I'm trying to focus on. It 896 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: just feels sometimes like the negative voices are louder to us, 897 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I'm trying to find peace with 898 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: if I am choosing to move forward with being a 899 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: content creator putting so much of myself out there publicly. 900 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: This is just going to be part of it. The 901 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 1: hate and the trolling and all of that. Um, but 902 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: speaking out about women's safety is something that I will 903 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: always do and it's become such a huge deal for me, 904 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 1: um and hopefully I can help protect other women. 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