1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive on the 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. And it is time now for the 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: Fantasy Football Focus and uh before we get to into 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: this week's top performers, Matt our DFS lineup. I tried, 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: I thought I made, and I tweeted it out and 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: I put it. I put it on YouTube that I 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: thought I was pulling tight because when Tony Poller was active, Yeah, 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna pull I j Spears out and 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: he was gonna pivot to Pearsaw Ricky Piersoll in the 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: flex spot which was cheaper. 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you had money to spend, money to spend up, 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 2: so I was going to spend up. 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: Uh. 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: From James Cooked to Devin ah Chan. It was only 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: like a three hundred dollars difference, but Paw did well. 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: I must have not saved it when I did that. 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: I was too concerned with making sure I told everybody. 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: What was the text to me about it? Like I 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: could show what kind of. 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: The right idea, but I didn't. I didn't execute it 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: as it is, though we know what is going to do. 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: We still have uh, we still have Tyreek Hill going tonight, 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: hopefully hopefully. If he doesn't, well we'll flip over to 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: Jaylen Waddle because Tyreek was the guy that we spent 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: up for. Yeah, yeah, could also I don't know, let 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: me look here that if that happens, I don't know 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: if we'd have enough money to get one of the 33 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: RAMS receivers in the lineup. 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: Where's the other spot? I'm just gonna do you guys 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 3: open going to night? 36 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: Oh you mean instead of instead instead of Hill, we 37 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: could go to Cup or I'm just looking to bed, 38 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: we could go to Poka Nakua. At seventy one dollars. 39 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: Would you rather start Pookah with Cup or Wattle without Hill? 40 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: We're two hundred dollars short of getting. 41 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: Cop That's what I mean though, Like, but he's gonna 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: be on the field. Yeah, who would you prefer if 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: he comes. 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: That's what I'm asking you. I think I would prefer Wattle, 45 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: I think because he would be the only game in 46 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: town right right, right? And when when when Hill hasn't 47 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: been out there and Wattle has Wattle is blown up. Yeah, 48 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: and they're an easier pass defense to navigate. 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 3: They're desperate times too, Yeah, we'll. 50 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: Both teams are really desperate. So right now I'm gonna 51 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: have Hill in the lineup. Yeah, but if we get 52 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: news tonight that he's not playing, then we'll we'll we'll 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: flip that out and go with Wattle. 54 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: But what do we need do you think to Well? 55 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: Right now, in this particular one that we're in, we 56 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: have the leader right now has we're forty six point 57 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: eight six points out, but we're much closer to being 58 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: in the money we're brought. We're about fifteen points out 59 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: of the money. 60 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: So we don't know what all the other opponents. 61 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: Right some of them have guys left, or some of 62 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: them don't. 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, Yeah, there's a lot of good eligible 64 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: fantasy players. 65 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 2: But right now we're in one hundred and twenty first place, 66 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: and we need to get in the top one hundred. Okay, 67 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: we got a shot. Yeah, Yeah, if we get again 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty points out of Tyreek Hill or whoever 69 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: other people have, whoever we plug into that. Yeah, I'm 70 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: assuming like some of the other guys. Still some of 71 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: the other players here still have players out, but there's 72 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: also a lot of players that have already maxed out. 73 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: They have nobody left. 74 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 3: So this happened to Nico last night. In a couple 75 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: of leagues, we're knowing another option because there's it's the 76 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 3: beauty of DFS is like you can you can pivot 77 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: at least find somebody. 78 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: It's not like in your regular, you know, weekly league. 79 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: On my buddies team, I can't just pick them up. Yeah, right, 80 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: of course. 81 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you're picking up like the fourth string 82 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: receiver or something like that. 83 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: I know enough about the FS I assume most owners 84 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: are on top of that stuff, like, yeah, you know 85 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: that they actually go in and make the change. They 86 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: don't start Tyreek when he's inactive. 87 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, somehow I didn't. I didn't save it again. Well 88 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: beyond that, I I keep screwing that up. That's maybe 89 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: that's how I did that before. I didn't update the entry. 90 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: There we go, all right, so we do have Tyreeky's 91 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: taking keeping the reservation apparently for me is a problem. 92 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: That's the second time that's happened to me now. 93 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: But we have done. 94 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we're we did okay, Justin Herbert nineteen point 95 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: seven six points. We paid, Remember we only paid fifty 96 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: two hundred dollars game. 97 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: He played really well. 98 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, seventeen point four percent ownership. James Cook five point 99 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: two percent ownership. Was supposed to be a chan going tonight, 100 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 2: but we got fifteen point five points at I'm not 101 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: a blow up games. Yeah, but okay, Tyler Algier fifty 102 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: nine rushing yards but didn't score. 103 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they lost to the Saints. 104 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they lost to the Saints. Lad McConkie two 105 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: for fifty two. We would have liked to have gotten 106 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: more there, but he was cheap. Fifty nine hundred dollars 107 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: big money. Yeah, eight point seven percent ownership. Khalil Shakir 108 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: with six thousand six catches for fifty eight yards, we 109 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: didn't score, had eleven point eight point didn't kill us. 110 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: Hawkinson was the right call, though, eight per seventy two 111 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: fifteen point two points for a forty seven hundred dollars 112 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: tight end. Yeah, take that, only five five point eight 113 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: percent ownership. I thought he would be a little chalky. 114 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: I thought he'd be real chalky. He's he's about to 115 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: go up in price too. 116 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: We ended up with Spears in the lineup because I 117 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: couldn't make I didn't hit save. 118 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: Uh. 119 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: He had eight point one points. He had forty seven 120 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: rushing yards, three catches for four yards. But we'll take 121 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: the three point four points. 122 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he was out there almost fifty percent. 123 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it wasn't a terrible call. But I mean 124 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: him and Cook didn't bury us. Yeah, Piersall would have 125 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: been better. Pearsall had a touchdown. Yeah, he's the yards 126 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: or so. He'll be more expensive next week, but we 127 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: can keep him in mind. 128 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 3: I think he's going to go up in price and 129 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: be a fixture on that offense. Yeah. 130 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: We had the Chargers defense in there. They had seven 131 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: sacks seven and ended up with eight points, only four 132 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: point seven percent ownership on them. 133 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, against a pretty bad Titans team. 134 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we we didn't go real chalky this week. 135 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: You know that our chalkiest guy was actually Khalil Shakir 136 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: at twenty four point four percent ownership. 137 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: Sounds like all of our guys were fine. Yeah, you know, 138 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: nobody blew up. 139 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: I think nobody. Yeah, nobody was awful. We didn't take 140 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: a zero, right, which has been a problem the last 141 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: couple of weeks and we didn't have We kind of 142 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 2: zigged this week and everybody else zagged to go to 143 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: the chalky stuff. 144 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Although I thought Hawk would have been. 145 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: I did too, I thought he would be pretty. 146 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: Yes, it's been out of sight, out of my mind. 147 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess looking at this week's top performers, well, 148 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: if you had somebody in those Thursday night game, you 149 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: were golden this week, no doubt. Burrow led the way 150 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: with four hundred and twenty eight passing yards this week, 151 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: four touchdown passes, uh brock perty three fifty three and 152 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: two touchdown passes against Tampa Bay. 153 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, he did played well. 154 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got all the pieces back. That helps. Yeah, 155 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: Like suddenly you put McCaffrey back in that lineup and 156 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: party looks like party again. 157 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: They missed three field goals, but yeah, than that. 158 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 2: And then Debo went after yeah or the pot the holder. 159 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: I don't know who he was blaming there. 160 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 3: Not sure exactly. A long snapper had to break it. 161 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: Up Kirk Cousins three to zero six, but did not 162 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: throw a touchdown pass and they lost to the Saints. 163 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: I don't know what to think of that game. I 164 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: didn't study it heavily. But it seems just kind of 165 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: like one of those flukey on the road Division games. 166 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: Like they hate each other. 167 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm not off the Atlanta bandwagon. No, 168 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: kind of like Baltimore losing. 169 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: The browns Lamar had two ninety and four touchdowns, so 170 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: only three three hundred yard passers going into tonight's game. Okay, 171 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: Josh Allen two eighty didn't throw a touchdown pass through 172 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: two interceptions in that game. 173 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he did kind of kept them in it a 174 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: little bit. Yeah, they controlled the game. 175 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they won thirty to twenty. Flacco had two seventy 176 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: two On the other side of that, two touchdowns, three 177 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: interceptions for us four sacks. 178 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: How much longer he's gonna be out there? 179 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: That's just he's he kind of like at this point 180 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: Jamis Winston just throw it and oh. 181 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of volatility to his passing. 182 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: It might be great, might not. 183 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 184 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: I mean even as Steelers, he threaded a lot of 185 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: need and got away with it. Derek Carthur for two 186 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: sixty nine and two touchdowns, and that win over Atlanta 187 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: was actually semi efficient. There. I'm not jumping on Valdez. No, no, 188 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: no happened to be the only thing in town. Kyler 189 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: Murray to sixty six in a touchdown. Of course, he 190 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: gets you his usual running as well. Mahomes was number 191 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: nine with two sixty six in a touchdown through forty 192 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: two times though to get there. 193 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: Since they've gotten Nuke, his fantasy's production's gone up. Yeah. 194 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: They still only scored sixteen points. 195 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 196 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: And then number ten was Sam Darnold two forty one, 197 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: no touchdowns, three interceptions. So a lot of these guys 198 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: who were the top ten passers this week didn't throw 199 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: any touchdown passes and threw a lot of interceptions. 200 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, there were a lot of interceptions. I think there's 201 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: a lot of miskicks. There's a lot of interceptions this week. 202 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: In general. 203 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: The rushing leaders only four guys over one hundred yards. 204 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: Chewba Hubbard led the way with one fifty three in 205 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: a touchdown. 206 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: Him he was impressive. Yeah, gave him money. Yeah. 207 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: If you had a running back in that Carolina Giants game, yeah, 208 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: you were at the starting running by, you were happy there. 209 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: Bijon once sixteen and two scores. 210 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: That's like four weeks in a row. He's been like 211 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 3: a high running back. 212 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: One Jonathan Taylor had one fourteen, did not score on 213 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: twenty one carries, had a fifty eight yard run in there, 214 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: and then Tyrone Tracy eighteen for one zh three in 215 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: a touchdown, had that crucial fun. 216 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: So bad for him. Yeah, I mean, young guy, it's 217 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: easy to root for it. 218 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: He was the reason why they were in that point 219 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: to be an overtime because it was one Daniel Jones. 220 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: That's one of the few bright spots of the Giant seasons. Yeah, 221 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: they found a back. 222 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: They kept throwing the ball in the red zone and 223 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: throwing interceptions and like. 224 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: Wjams was horrible, Oh terrible. Yeah. 225 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones just missed eighty eight yards, did not score 226 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: at along A thirteen. We talked about him in DFS. 227 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: Well, he didn't play like the whole second half. Yeah, 228 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: I mean this came out. He's day to day so 229 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: he made I mean he would have. He was in 230 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 3: line for a huge day. They were using him like crazy. 231 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: Cook had nineteen for eighty in the touchdown, so we 232 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: made that reall. Yeah, Remandre seventy four yards on the 233 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: twenty carries, didn't score. Bucky Irving thirteen for seventy three 234 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 2: and a touchdown against that San Francisco defense, which they're 235 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: missing Jabon Hargrave right now. Yeah. 236 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: One irving note though, is Christian Wurf's got hurt in 237 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: that game. Yeah, if he's out there. 238 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: They noted that a lot. Jamior Gibbs was somebody that 239 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: we talked about. He had nineteen for seventy one. 240 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: Looked great, look great, Yeah, I mean explosive player. 241 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: And then Derrick Henry sixteen for sixty eight in a 242 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: score not the typical Dereck Henry game. They didn't give 243 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: it to him enough. 244 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: They didn't, and they broke their one hundred yard streak. Yeah, 245 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: they ended up in ninety nine ninety nine because Lamar 246 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: neiled at the end. 247 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: One more handoff right to Henry, they were. 248 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: One yard in the last play, they would got one hundred. Good. 249 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I know Harbaugh cares about that. 250 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: Oh, definitely cares about that stuff. Yeah. The only two 251 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: streaks already in the stat pack are the Ravens and Steelers. 252 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: Both had a longer streak of one hundred yard games 253 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: in their franchise history. 254 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: The one hundred yard receivers this week there were only five, now. 255 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: Three hundred passers were down. 256 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase eleven for two sixty four and three touchdowns. 257 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: If you had Jamar Chase in your regular weekly lineup, 258 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: if you had him in your same thing with Burrow, 259 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: if you had him in a DFS slant up. I 260 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: stacked one Thursday. I put one together Thursday night. Yeah, 261 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: and stacked Chase Burrow. Uh yeah, Chase Burrow and GASICKI 262 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: and I came out of that with like one hundred points. 263 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: It's a massive, right, So I talked about it Friday 264 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: after that game. In our league, I have Chase and 265 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: Chase Brown, but he had Burrow. So I still need 266 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 3: some stuff tonight to get to win. I'm in pretty 267 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 3: good shape, but you would think for you, Chase, you're 268 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: feeling great, but I'm playing against Burrow. 269 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: H Tyler Wallace had three for one to fifteen in 270 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 2: a touchdown. Don't run out, don't run out and pick 271 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: up Tyler Wallace. I was an eighty four yard flukeius 272 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: to fall flat touchdowns. 273 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe you'll see the field against Steelers, but 274 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: he's not going to get many targets. Yeah. 275 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin had five for one thirteen. I thought he 276 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: played really well. I thought Porter did a really good 277 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: job covering him. 278 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but next gen charts those like tight window throws 279 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: and things like that. It was a real high percentage, 280 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 3: so the coverage wasn't bad. 281 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes a couple of really good Yeah. Aj Brown five 282 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: for one oh nine, but did not score. 283 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: Didn't score, But it'll be fine because. 284 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: Apparently Jalen Hurts has to score all their touchdowns and 285 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: not throw touchdown passes to guys who should score touchdown passes. 286 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: That coming from a disgruntled Barkley owner. 287 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they score thirty four points against the Cowboys 288 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: who can't stop the run right now too, and Saquon 289 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: Barkley has like twelve points. I mean, what are we 290 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: doing here? I can get the Touchboarsh stuff I've got 291 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: in our in our league. Yeah, I've made enough. Tra've 292 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: made a bunch of trades I had. I had a 293 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: pretty good draft, and I had lots of extra pieces. 294 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 2: So once we started getting through the buys, I started 295 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: dealing away some of those pieces to acquire stars. So 296 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: I've got Justin Jefferson, Saquon Barkley, and Breece Hall. 297 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: Now you traded for Barkley and Hall, right, yes? 298 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I got like a combined forty 299 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: points out of that threesome this week. 300 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 3: This is going to cut it. Yeah. 301 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: But meanwhile, my top, my top scorer is the Giants 302 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: running back Tracy Tracy. Tyro Tracy is like my leading 303 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: scorer this week because I had to start Kirk Cousins 304 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: at quarterback because Jordan loves my normal quarterback and he 305 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: doesn't throw a touchdown pass. 306 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: I wouldn't expect the Barkley stuff to change though. He's 307 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: had to score from distance, but he does. But well, 308 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: they could throw them to the football a little bit too. 309 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: One catch. That's that's why he wasn't the top five 310 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: pick in fantasy, because he's worried about touch pushing. 311 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: They need, they need more competitive games, is what they need. 312 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: It can't you know, it can't be a thirty four 313 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: to six flow. Yeah, they're just awful, and so they 314 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: weren't challenged, so they didn't give the ball to sake 315 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 2: one that much. Marquez Valdez Scantling had three for one 316 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: oh nine and two touchdowns. They were both long ones. 317 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: Don't run out and pick. 318 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: Him now, and plus in that Eagles game, like pickets 319 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: and they're doing mop up duty, Like yeah, I mean 320 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 3: they got the backups in late. They're playing Thursday. 321 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: Although I will say this about Marquez Valdez Scantling. He 322 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: has taken over the role of our guy, no chet, 323 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: He's taken over the hold. 324 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: He's also the only show. 325 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: He's also the only show in town. But you know 326 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: they're going to take deep shots. They are now they're constructed. 327 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: Well he catch said deep shots. I don't know, but 328 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: that's it's a dart throw in Valdez Scantling. It's kind 329 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: of where I was going with that. 330 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: And that's who he is period. 331 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's always that to day. 332 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he may not even catch it. 333 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Shaheed is a much better version of. 334 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: Him, Yes, exactly. Kamara's like setting all time records for 335 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: running back target share too. Yeah. And I just saw 336 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: on my phone like five minutes ago blurb came off 337 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: that they're not ruling the lave out for the year 338 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: or I don't eve think they put him on IR 339 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: so that might be better news than we thought, But 340 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: I don't know what they have to They're not going anywhere. 341 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: He that's his second major concussion this year. I mean 342 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: I released him in our league. I get it with 343 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: with New Saturday I'm like, am I going to play 344 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: him even when he gets back? I got some other 345 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: guys that I could put in. I'm like, he's probably 346 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: an maybe starter for me at this point. He's not 347 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: going to start over Jefferson. It might be a while, 348 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: who knows, and he might be out a month. It 349 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: might be a twist, situation could be so at this point, 350 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: he's at five concussions. Yeah, I'm just not going to 351 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: deal with it. And they're a bad football team. It's 352 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: not like he's been outstanding this year. 353 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: No, he's been. He was a little disappointing for fantasy 354 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: when things were good, yeah, and then when things were bad, 355 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: everyone was terrible. 356 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: Now I wish I would have traded him because the 357 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: guy did trade Drake London and this traded him in 358 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: the Barkley trade. Eight for ninety seven. No, he's would 359 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: have been a nice assistant. He's been pretty consistent. Yeah, 360 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: player on Darnell Mooney in the same game five for 361 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: ninety six. Neither one of them could score a touchdown though, 362 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: right right, come on, guys, Juwan Jennings seven for ninety three. 363 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: He's doing a lot of the Ayuk stuff. Yeah, I mean, 364 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: he's out there close to every snap running man beaters. 365 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: George Pickens five for ninety one and a touchdown. It 366 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: used to seeing that right that line for how he's 367 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: played every step of the way. Matt Collins four for 368 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: eighty six. They have other guys are hurt right now, 369 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: but he's kind of moved into that Coleman rule. 370 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: So I guess he's an odd bird. Yeah, my son 371 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: told me a story about him today that he was 372 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: late for a meeting because. 373 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: He wouldn't he takes the stairs. 374 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: He takes the stairs, So he was late for a meeting, 375 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: which I assume that I'm sit here thinking, I'm like, 376 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: is their facility like atop a skyscraper. 377 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: Or something, which is probably late for the Saturday night. 378 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: Then I realized, you're in the hotel. 379 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: Right, so I assume he's walking down all those stats. 380 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: That's what That's what happened with the kid with the 381 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: Bengals last week. He's Yeah, Burton skipped the team meeting 382 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: the day before in the hotel. You're in the building. 383 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: You're in the building. That's why they bring them to 384 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: the hotel. So guys don't miss the meeting because you 385 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: don't want to getting stuck in traffic, that kind of stuff. 386 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: So even at a home game, team trolled environment. Right, 387 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: everyone goes down to the banquet room, gets a snack. 388 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: That's why you're in said hotel, so you're not late 389 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: to the meetings, and he just skipped it. That's why 390 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: Burrow was so ticked off at him, Like, how do 391 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: you miss the meeting? 392 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: Everyone says how unlikable he is. Yeah, I really good talent, 393 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: but that's that's all drafts though. Calvin Ridley five for 394 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: eighty four and two. He's on fire since Hopkins. Yeah, 395 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: I mean just in terms of they throw to him 396 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: every time. 397 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you had Alec Pierce four for eighty one in 398 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: the score. 399 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean with Pittman out, him and Mitchell are 400 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: a little redundant. But you know, he's kind of that 401 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 3: the Shawn Jackson all or nothing type guy. You know. 402 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 2: James Connor had five for eighty receiving, didn't do much 403 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 2: on the ground, but he did score, but he had 404 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: five for eighty. 405 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: They're rampant. Benson up a little bit, a little bit more. 406 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's starting to steal some car in a. 407 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: Game whenever it's not competitive. 408 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: But now that they're you know, kind of in it 409 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: right now. They're more than kind of in it there, oh, very. 410 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: Much in it. 411 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: They're going to use both those guys because they're trying 412 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 2: to win. 413 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 3: Connor's like a solid high end running back. Two. Yeah, 414 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: you know that's great. 415 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: Uh, John Maichie last night five for seventy four in 416 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: a touchdown. 417 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, but Nico's coming back I think this week, and Woods. 418 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: Is involved, but Diggs ain't coming back. 419 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 3: Diggs's not coming back. I've bet you'll be the three 420 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: or not. Dell's looking healthier than ever Metchi. At least 421 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 3: he gives you some upside. I like him better than Wood. 422 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: I mean they took him in the first round a 423 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. They must like him a little bit. 424 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: He was a date. He was a second or second 425 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 3: ar Yeah, but yeah, he was a first round. The 426 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: name we talked about, Contee's probably him away. They also 427 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: have the Iowa State kid too, Hutchinson or yeah, just 428 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 3: a little crowded. 429 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: Pearsall had four for seventy three in a score that 430 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 2: would have been nice in the one. 431 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: I think he should be in every league kind of 432 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 3: in that way. Yeah. 433 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hawkinson eight for seventy two. Josh downs seven for seventy. 434 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 3: Two, didn't score, and you know it's fyeah. 435 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: Donnie Mitchell had six for seventy one. 436 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: He looks good, you know. I think he's gonna be 437 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: a really good player. 438 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, Trey mcbrideford for seventy one, Courtland Sutton's six for 439 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: seventy in the score. 440 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: If they put Richardson back in though, yeah, it's yeah. 441 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 3: Although I'm open to the idea that, like Bryce young 442 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: Richardson might I'm not saying it's be great, but should 443 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: be better than he was, you know what I mean, 444 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 3: Like maybe he's a little more functional for fantasy sutting 445 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 3: by the ways and other ones that getting huge ridiculous. 446 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: There's nobody else. They don't have anybody else. Uh. The 447 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: only other guy on here is kind of a outlier. 448 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 2: Austin Hooper had three for sixty four. 449 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: I don't have to see how that went. 450 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: But and for me, Hunter Henry didn't do much in that. 451 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: He didn't. I didn't watch much of that game. 452 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: No, I didn't either, But it's just noteworthy that because 453 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: he's a tight end and you know, tight end production 454 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 2: is tough to come by. 455 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, keep and I don't all they have great receivers. No, 456 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: and Hooper's okay, Yeah, he's had a good career. Yeah, 457 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: so just keep an eye on that one. That's going 458 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: to do it for the fantasy football focus. He's Matt Williamson. 459 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lewy. You're listening to the Drive here 460 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. Remember if you're playing the 461 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: lineup that we played, and I know some of you do, 462 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: if Tyree, if Tyreek doesn't play tonight, go to waddle. Yeah. 463 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an easy it's an easy switch. That's fine, 464 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: I get it right. Yeah, you know, you know, just 465 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: do you think Miami is going to be behind or ahead? 466 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: Kind of play it that way. I think there could 467 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: be a lot of point. I think there's gonna be 468 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: points period. 469 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. 470 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: So that's that's the play. Anyways, let's get to a break. 471 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 2: We'll be back with more right after this. 472 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 3: At least. 473 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 474 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 475 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio. 476 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the 477 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and mattos torn around the internet today as 478 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: I was hanging out and I noticed that, first of all, 479 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: the Steelers last week in Dvoa were tenth in the league. Okay, 480 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: that adds up this week after that. This was after 481 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: the games where everything was added up from yesterday. They 482 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: actually moved fell down three spots to thirteenth, and Washington 483 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 2: didn't move at all. 484 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 3: They didn't move at all. 485 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: They were seventh and they stayed seventh. I mean, it's 486 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: a math formula. I don't get it. 487 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, the Steelers you would think are 488 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: trending the right direction. 489 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: The defense is worse this week than it was last week. 490 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, the defense played really well. 491 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it did too, But I'm trying to 492 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: think of what would be the big ast them. 493 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: I mean, they gave them some touchdowns, but. 494 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: Would the fake punt hurt their special teams? 495 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: That the special teams is actually third. It didn't go 496 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: down at all. 497 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: Change at all. I can't explain it. I don't know. 498 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: I mean sometimes I never looked at numbers. I just 499 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: look at the ranks, and the numbers are hard to 500 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: you know, decipher. At times, maybe the numbers stayed the 501 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: same and people around them just moved. That could be 502 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: the case. That could be the case. 503 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: Looking here at ESPN's FPI projections with their analytics stuff, 504 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: yeah yeah, kind of. They piggybacked off of DVOA. They're 505 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: now projecting the Steelers at ten point seven wins for 506 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: the season. Sounds reasonable, Yeah, somewhere between ten and eleven. 507 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, eleven, right. 508 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: But now only ninety four percent chance to make the playoffs. 509 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, that adds up. 510 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: And if you look at it, the only teams ahead 511 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: of them are Kansas City, Buffalo, Detroit, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Houston, Pittsburgh. 512 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Baltimore is the only one I would 513 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 3: argue in terms of just percentage chance to go. 514 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: They now have an eight point two percent chance to 515 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: make the Super Bowl. That might not sound like a lot, 516 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 2: but that's pretty high percentage. Like what's the Chiefs that 517 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: they're at twenty nine point seven? Wow, that's really high. 518 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: Buffalo high. Buffalo's at twenty two point eight. Detroit is 519 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: the highest thirty three point nine. 520 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: I assume they just think the NFC is an easier path. 521 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're looking at it, I guess it is. Overall, 522 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: So you get Detroit at one, Kansas City at two, 523 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: Buffalos at twenty two point eight. The Ravens are at 524 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: twenty two percent, the Eagles are at fifteen percent, the 525 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: Packers are at ten point three percent. Minnesota is at 526 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: nine point nine percent, Washington's at nine percent, the Steelers 527 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: are at nine point two. So we're the Steelers are 528 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: fourth in the AFC. And that's kind of how I 529 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: would stack the teams right now. 530 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: I would do them. Are Houston stuff for me in 531 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: terms of chances to go to Super. 532 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: Bowl chances to go because you know, Houston's gonna win 533 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: that division kind of by default right the game. The 534 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: problem that Houston might have right now is that they're 535 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: gonna win that division and they're probably gonna end up 536 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: playing the second place team in the AFC North. 537 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think you want to be the four. 538 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 3: The four is not a good place to be, right 539 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: because you're gonna get Baltimore pitch for a coming to 540 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: your place. Yeah, which isn't fun. Yeah. This is just 541 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 3: a total hunch. But as you were saying, those percentages, 542 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 3: they all seem higher than usual. I mean, here are 543 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 3: I say there's so much garbage teams? Yeah, I think 544 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: there's just more of that than ever. So the good 545 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: teams have a higher percentage than they usually do on 546 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: eleven eleven, you know today. 547 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: To win the Super Bowl. The Steelers have now have 548 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: a three point five percent chance to win the Super Bowl. 549 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: They were point one when the season started. I remember 550 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 2: looking at this, nobody thought the Steelers were a super 551 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: Bowl contender. 552 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, like three percent is not crazy this time of year, 553 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: you know. 554 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 2: To win, like win, Yeah, I mean if you look 555 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: at that, they're tied with San Francisco at three point 556 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: five percent. If I told you they because two teams 557 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 2: you're going the other opposite direction from each other. 558 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know if San Frans go in 559 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 3: the office direction. 560 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: Well from where they started, From where they started, San 561 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 2: Francisco I think was the favorite. 562 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: I wonder where they're at in the NFC. Like if 563 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: you were to rank percent chance not, I don't care 564 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 3: what the numbers are. I think we'd both agree Detroit 565 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: as the best chance to represent the NFC. 566 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have an eighteen this according to ESPN, eighteen 567 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 2: point nine percent chance to win the Super Bowl. They're 568 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: the favorite right now. Lions do the Lions. Kansas City 569 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: second at fifteen point four percent, Buffalo is third and 570 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: eleven point nine Baltimore is fourth at eleven point eight. 571 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: Then you go to the Eagles at eight point zero. 572 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: I was just saying, I wonder who's two in the 573 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 3: NFC is it's San Franers at the Eagles. 574 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 2: It's the Eagles. Then you get the Packers at five 575 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: point five percent. 576 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they should be in the same tier. 577 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 2: The Vikings are at four point eight percent, The Commanders 578 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: are still at three point nine because they're in the NFC, 579 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 2: and then you get the Steelers and forty nine ers 580 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: at three point five percent. So the Steelers have a 581 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: better chance than Houston according to that to their mess. 582 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 3: Which makes sense too because maybe they're hosting a game 583 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 3: or they're going to Houston, you know what I mean. 584 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 3: Kind of a side note, I mean just because, and 585 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: I know mathematicians don't look at it this way, but 586 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 3: I give the Niners a better chance to win the 587 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 3: Super Bowl than Washington or Minnesota. I would agree been 588 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: they're done at fast, I agree with that, you know 589 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: what I mean, If they get there, I think they 590 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: could beat the Chiefs you know where. You know those 591 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 3: guys won't. 592 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: This is where it gets interesting. If you look at 593 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: their efficiencies, their offensive, defensive, special team efficiency ratings. The 594 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: Steelers right now are seventh overall in the league combining 595 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: all three of those things, with the score sixty six 596 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: point nine. 597 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 3: Okay. 598 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 2: The teams ahead of them are Detroit at seventy five 599 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 2: point seven. 600 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: This is just their stealing EPA, yeah, this is yeah. 601 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: Buffalo is second at sixty nine point six. The Chargers 602 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: are third at sixty nine point two. 603 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 3: I think they're good on teams. 604 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 2: They're second on or second in defense, tenth on teams. 605 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 3: Okay. 606 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: Minnesota is fourth at sixty nine point two. Then you 607 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: get the Eagles at sixty seven point zero and the 608 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: Steelers at sixty six point nine, just ahead of Kansas City. 609 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: I so that's a company you want to keep. 610 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: Just ahead of the Ravens. The Ravens are at sixty 611 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 2: four point nine because why. 612 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: The defense is so bad if you're that at but Rolillo. 613 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 2: They're twenty fifth in defensive official. 614 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: Which is really saying something when there's when you're talking 615 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 3: about the good teams. Yeah, you know what I mean, 616 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 3: there's such garbage. I mean, there's twelve terrible teams probably 617 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 3: in the league right now that if you're amongst them 618 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 3: in any category, not good, not. 619 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: A good place to be. Yeah. So if you look 620 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: at the at the over the offensive efficiency rankings, Baltimore's 621 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 2: number one on at seventy nine point five. Washington, who 622 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: the Steelers just played, is second at seventy three point five. 623 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about with that. With that Washington offense, folks, 624 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: it's been very very good this year. Like per drive, 625 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: I mean they were averaging three points per drive. Yeah, 626 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: it's really high per drive. They were averaging a field 627 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: goal every time they got the ball kicked to them, yes, 628 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: which is crazy, it's insane. Yeah, it was like the 629 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: I think it was like the fourth highest since two thousand. 630 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: Is it higher than Baltimore now. 631 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: That I don't know Baltimore. Yeah, that was that was 632 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: from the stat pack that the league sends out. They 633 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: were the fourth, the fourth best offensive efficiency offense in 634 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 2: terms of points scored per on a per drive basis 635 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 2: since the year two thousand. 636 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 3: I know that they're ridiculous at having drives where they 637 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 3: don't get points, right, which Steelers did a really good 638 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 3: job of. 639 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, forcing the three and ounce and things of that nature. 640 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 2: So they were their second Buffalo third at sixty seven 641 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: point one. The Lions are fourth at sixty seven point zero. Uh, 642 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 2: then you get the Bengals at sixty six point seven. 643 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: San Francisco's at sixty two point one, the Cardinals sixty 644 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 2: one point two. 645 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: How big is of a Bengals discrepancy between offense and defense? 646 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: The pretty massive. Their fifth offensively, twenty eighth defensively, so 647 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: it's an even bigger both spread. They're kind of similarly 648 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: built teams this right, And then you look at the Steelers, however, 649 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: fourteenth offense offensive efficiency, So it's not if. 650 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 3: You went through the last three weeks, it'd be even better. Yeah, right, 651 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 652 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's been the last three since since they 653 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: put Wilson in the lineup there averaging thirty point three 654 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: points per game. That's thirty point three, not thirty three, 655 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: but thirty point three. 656 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 3: Adds up. 657 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: And so I had somebody ask me today on Uh 658 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: it was on the message board from our our Picks 659 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: segment last week. One of the people out there who 660 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: obviously did like the move to Russell Wilson, just at 661 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: the Justin Fields fan I get said, are you going 662 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 2: to talk about Russell Wilson's Uh, you know, the turnovers. 663 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 3: Like which one. 664 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so he threw an interception yesterday, interception, an interception 665 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: on a third down that was the same as a punt. Well, 666 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: that too, right, Like, you're just taking a shot to 667 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: your best player, George Pickens. You're taking a shot down 668 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: the field to him, and if you don't get it, 669 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: it's a it's the same as a punt. 670 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, not every interceptions created equal. 671 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: No, you're just taking a shot and you had Oh, 672 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: by the way, an officiating crew that likes to call 673 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: pass interference and holding penalties, you're taking a shot. You 674 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: might get one. So no, I had no problem with 675 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: that in that situation. They're also averaging ten points a 676 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: game more with Russell Wilson in the lineup as opposed 677 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: to justin fields. So if Russell Wilson does turn the 678 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: ball over on occasion, he's also scoring more points. 679 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: Right right into this, It's its not like they're not 680 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 3: the same. One interception just ruins the game. No, they 681 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: don't equal the same way. 682 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: Does that mean that that you want Russell Wilson went 683 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: out there and turning the ball over three times? 684 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. But even if sacks aren't bad, right, 685 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: you know, he was under a lot of pressure last year. 686 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: Yesterday too, Yeah, they were blitzing like crazy. Yeah they were, 687 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: they were like crazy. 688 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: So defensive efficiency, Minnesota's one at seventy six point eight, 689 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: the Chargers at two at seventy four point nine, The 690 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: Bears are third at sixty nine point two, and then 691 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: you get the Steelers are fourth at sixty seven point eight. 692 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: Okay, wow, I'm a little shock. The Bears are still 693 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: that high. 694 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: So you're but you're not that far. You're only take 695 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: less than ten points off the lead. Yeah, you're still 696 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: a defensive efficiency stuff. Yeah, so they I mean they're 697 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: doing a good job on that side of the ball. Yeah, 698 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: you're giving up some stuff, but like even yesterday, one 699 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: of those touchdowns is you get they get the ball 700 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: to at the what fourteen. 701 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: Assuming they're they're ficiency stuff that you're looking at is 702 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: similar to EPA. Big plays help a lot more as 703 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 3: opposed to like success rate is down in, down out 704 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: type of thing. Steelers aren't great in that neighborhood. They're 705 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: not bad, but they're not great. But the big play 706 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: stuff is huge. But you're still beuting that. Like even 707 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: yesterday you forced three and out six times. 708 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was pretty That helps, especially against that offense 709 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: against talking about earlier, that's not what they do at 710 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: all against that offense. Likewise, again, you know, we know 711 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: Baltimore was number one, so the leader in defensive efficiency 712 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: seventy six point eight. The Steelers are at sixty seven 713 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: point eight. You got to go all the way down 714 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: to twenty five to find the Ravens at forty three 715 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: point three. Time with the Cardinals. Wow, the Cardinals. In fact, 716 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: if people were talking about how how tough it is 717 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: to play against the AFC North teams this year, Cleveland's 718 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: twenty third, their defense is forty five points six, and 719 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: the Bengals are actually below the Ravens at forty point four. 720 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't show Calne is dead last at thirty two. 721 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: You're much closer to that than that than the thought. 722 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 3: It doesn't shock me that the Steelers have a good defense. 723 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 3: It shocks me that the rest of the division. 724 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: Does, doesn't the rest? 725 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 3: I mean, he was bad last year. Yeah, I thought 726 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 3: it'd be better this year, or at least be a 727 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: tier above where they were, yeah, man, I mean the defense, 728 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: and then the Browns are not horrible, but they're tiers 729 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: below where they were right. 730 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: I mean they're nowhere close to what they were, like 731 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: they were like one last year or two. They're playing 732 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: things have balanced out because their home road splits were 733 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: so that was just completely different than now. They've kind 734 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: of met in the middle this year. Whereas last year 735 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: they get they gave up like twelve points per game 736 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: at home and twenty eight points per game on the road. 737 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: It was weird. 738 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: Now it's it's more like twenty points per game between, yeah, 739 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: which I guess kind of makes sense because yah, I mean. 740 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: There's such small sample sizes, that's probably who you are. 741 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 3: Just happened to play better in one building than the other. Yeah. 742 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: But the biggest difference this year the Steelers special teams unit. 743 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: Detroit Lee's away at sixty nine point eight been really 744 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: good on special teams. 745 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: Dallas is good too, right, Na, They're okay, noo, they're 746 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 3: in the top there are in DVOA. If you look 747 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 3: at DVA. 748 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: Rankings, the Steelers are second at sixty eight point six. 749 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: They're not that far off the lead. 750 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't think. 751 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: Then you've got New England sixty four point five, Denver 752 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: at sixty four point two. 753 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 3: That's a hidden thing about Denver. Yeah, it keeps them 754 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: hanging around. 755 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay's five. Cleveland is six sixty point three. They've played, 756 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 2: they played well on special teams. Everything else has been 757 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: a dumpster fire. Jacksonville, Dallas, New Orleans, and then the Chargers. 758 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: The Chargers are Chargers are doing all the harbor. 759 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: All the winning in the margins. Exactly, winning in the margins. 760 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 3: It's much like the Steelers were when they didn't have Wilson. 761 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 3: You know where the Ravens on special teams. 762 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: The Ravens are twenty second forty forty five point nine. 763 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 3: I mean Tucker's missed four or five kicks. 764 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: Closer to the bottom than they are the top in 765 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: terms of even like the worst team in the league 766 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 2: on special teams the Miami Dolphins at thirty two point two. 767 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: Keep an eye on that tonight. 768 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I know we're not going down this path, 769 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 3: but we're talking about winning the margins. Ravens are the 770 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 3: worst penalty team by far. 771 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 2: They used to They used to do that. They used to. 772 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: I mean once they got across midfield. Oh well they're 773 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: in field goal range from that's not the case anymore. 774 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 3: No, I mean there have some margins. 775 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: Their punters were always outstanding. Oh yeah, the return of 776 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: guys are always dangerous soccer. Yeah, they were always solid. 777 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: Not many penalties, you know, Yeah, you're right. 778 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of defensive breakdowns, a lot of penalties, 779 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: a lot of things that don't don't always show up, 780 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 3: you know in the box score that has why do 781 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: you lose the Raiders? Right, you know, like or why 782 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 3: do you let these guys come back? 783 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: You know? So their offense is unbelievably good, but some 784 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: of the stuff that Harbaugh is usually good. 785 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 3: At isn't great. 786 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be driving him nuts. 787 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 3: I bet it's making because he knows better. I mean, right, 788 00:34:59,560 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 3: he was a. 789 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 2: Team's coach, That's that's what he was as a coordinator 790 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: before he became a head coach. So you know when 791 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 2: that side of the ball stinks as this does, and 792 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: the defense does like these are just these aren't your 793 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 2: father's Ravens. 794 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 3: No, it's outscore you running gun, Yeah, basically, and. 795 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: You feel a little bit better right now. And this 796 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: is why the Steelers did make the move to Russell 797 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: Wilson because they're scoring points now. Oh yeah, you know 798 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: when people said Tomlin doesn't like to score points. No, 799 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 2: he does. When he has a quarterback he trusts, he's 800 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: going to go out and try to score points. They 801 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: did it when they when Ben Roethlisberger and the Killer 802 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: Bees were at the height of their powers. They scored 803 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: with anybody. Remember that was that was when Todd Haley 804 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: came out and saday our goals to score thirty points 805 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 2: game every week. 806 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that wasn't outlandish, no, I mean that's what 807 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 3: they did, that type of guys. Yeah, they first run 808 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 3: pick fantasy guys. So a more traditional stat though, that 809 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 3: shows how good Baltimore's offense is. Seven point one yards 810 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 3: per play on offense, far and away, it's first. I mean, 811 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 3: the Niners are second at six ' five, the Packers 812 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 3: at six to one, and the only one other team 813 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 3: over six. Like six yards per play every time he 814 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 3: snapped the ball is crazy, let alone seven point one. 815 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 3: I mean, so they're doing it all on that side 816 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 3: of the ball, but the other stuff's bad. 817 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 2: That's why you know, when you look at that game 818 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: yesterday against the Commanders, the Steelers gave up four point 819 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: one yards per. 820 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 3: Playing that game. You'll take that all day long against that. 821 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: Against that, right, I mean that that was an outstanding 822 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: defensive effort. If they keep it to five against the Ravens, 823 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: I would take it. Yeah, I mean no question. So, folks, 824 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: when you're watching the game on Sunday, Baltimore is going 825 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: to make some plays. Offensively, They're gonna move, They're gonna 826 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 2: move the football. 827 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 3: They're better at the day when the league. Yeah, seven 828 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 3: point one yards per play. 829 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: The only the team that is second has been or 830 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 2: in that top three has been Washington. 831 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 3: They probably were close this week. Didn't help. 832 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably moved down a little bit. 833 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, So. 834 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: The Steelers know how to defend these kind of teams. 835 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 2: They've just done it. 836 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 3: And then similar type of quarterback too, in the way 837 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 3: that they're built. 838 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 2: And defensively, you know, so you expect them to You're 839 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 2: not gonna win every down you're gonna go, but to 840 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 2: hold your own, you gotta hold your own. You get 841 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 2: you can't let the Ravens score time after time, much 842 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: like you couldn't do that against Washington. Washington was going 843 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 2: to score some points. That's why Tomlin was aggressive with 844 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: the fake punt. Yeah, look, we're gonna try to steal 845 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 2: a possession here. 846 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 3: If it was back to back drives like happened to 847 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 3: him going into halftime and coming out that don't go 848 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 3: your way. Okay, it can't be like that whole game though, yea, 849 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 3: you know right. 850 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: And this is what I thought was critical when I 851 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: talk about stealing a possession. The Steelers had fourteen possessions 852 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: in that game on Sunday, Washington had twelve. They stole 853 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 2: a possession possession. 854 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 3: I mean, if Washington's averaging three yards or three points 855 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: of possession, that six points, right, you know on average, 856 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 3: you know, right, So that's stuff unbelievably important. 857 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 2: And they were able to do that in a game 858 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 2: that they turned the ball over twice. 859 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 3: And they weren't perfect either. I mean they they gave 860 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 3: up you know, the Washington sole possession here and there too. Yeah, so. 861 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: Not one of those was an end of the half 862 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 2: taking a knee, but you still had more possessions. 863 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 864 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 2: I just think this is going to be an interesting 865 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: matchup this week. I thought last week's matchup was an 866 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: interesting matchup. Obviously, we know more about the Ravens than 867 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 2: we do the Commanders. 868 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 3: I learned a lot about the Commanders last week, and 869 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 3: it was almost all positive. 870 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 2: They're going good things. 871 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 3: They're good they're a nice story, but as a week 872 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 3: went on, I'm like, they're really good, yeah, especially the offense. Yeah. 873 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: So I just thought that was interesting that the fp 874 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 2: I thing. You know, when you look at those efficiency 875 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 2: ratings on on Espn'm gonna put a ton of weight 876 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: into it, Yeah, like I do, d V O A 877 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 2: and things of that nature. But it's it's a tool 878 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: to look at things through. And you know, again, I 879 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 2: think the Steelers have positioned themselves. Well, I don't think that, 880 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: and I haven't thought all along that they're going to 881 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: go oh and six in the division. People, you still 882 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 2: see it. Steelers still have all six of their AFC 883 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 2: North games remainting. Yeah, they went five and one in 884 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 2: the AFC Like everybody. Nobody says that. Nobody says the 885 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 2: Steelers have they're all six of their AFC North games remaining. 886 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 2: But oh, by the way, haven't had a losing record 887 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 2: in the AFC North in forever. 888 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously those games are more important, Yeah, 889 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 3: they way more. But the Ohio teams aren't as good 890 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 3: as we thought they'd be. 891 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 2: No, and they still have a bunch of their yeah 892 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 2: coming on, So keep that in mind. But let's get 893 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: to a break. We're overdue for that. He is Matt Williamson. 894 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here 895 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back to finish 896 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: up the show right after this. 897 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 3: In the least. 898 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 899 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 900 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 901 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 2: Man, we're back on Dale Lolly. He is the Matt 902 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: Williamson and just something that just happened here, Matt. The 903 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 2: Seahawks wave leading tackler Terrell Dotson, inside linebacker who they 904 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 2: signed in the offseason. Yeah, from the Buffer Low Bills. 905 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: It's an odd move. He's their leading tackler. Yeah, he's 906 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: an every down linebacker. Had seventy six tackles and a 907 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 2: couple of sacks, and it's made plays for them. And 908 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 2: they just said, you know what, we don't need him anymore. 909 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 3: And it's not like they're saving a ton on the 910 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 3: cap or anything like that. I don't know if it's 911 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 3: a one year, one year deal, a one year deal. 912 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 2: One year, four point twenty six million dollars, he's gonna 913 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: end up back in Buffalo. 914 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 3: I would think I'm not spreading rumors, but I wonder 915 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 3: if he did something off the field we're gonna find 916 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 3: out about because that this doesn't add up all. 917 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 2: They did the same thing though a couple of weeks ago. 918 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 2: They signed jer Own Baker in the offseason and then 919 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 2: traded him for Ernest Jones and. 920 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 3: Gave up more to get Jones. That's what I was 921 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 3: going to say, is they Jones is their guy. I mean, 922 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 3: Jones is the one that they want. He's their every 923 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 3: down green dot dude. And I forget who it was, 924 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 3: but they drafted someone in the third or fourth round 925 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 3: that was kind of a no name dude. I was 926 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 3: shocked when they took him as high as they did. 927 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 3: But they have added two linebackers and lost Baker since 928 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 3: signing Bernard. Yeah, strange though weird Where you mentioned off 929 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 3: the air, you couldn't got a seventh thrownd pick formal, We. 930 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 2: Could have traded them a week ago with somebody who 931 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 2: had given you something. 932 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 3: Again, I wonder if he did something, if he was 933 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 3: a bad boy between now. 934 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 2: And then, well they were playing him. They moved him 935 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 2: the weak side linebacker from middle linebacker and maybe just. 936 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 3: Put in their nickel he's one of the two. Yeah, 937 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 3: you know they were off this week. I think they were. 938 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they did a little self scouting and decided they 939 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 2: didn't want to didn't want to deal with them anymore. 940 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 3: Maybe he's no fun to be around. 941 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 942 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 2: I don't know he could have known. That's kind of 943 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 2: some of the things you deal with when in free agency. Uh, 944 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 2: did you see the Browns Jedrick Willis called his Wills Wills. Yeah, 945 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 2: now it's in my head. Jedrick Wills called his recent 946 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 2: bench benching pretty shocking. So they took uh, Jedrick Wills, 947 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 2: and he said it was he made a business decision 948 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: recently to sit out a recent game because of a 949 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 2: knee injury. And they they then moved Daywon Jones from 950 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 2: right tackle to left tackle and right and now Will's 951 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 2: been benched permanently. 952 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 3: I know he's up after this year. They did not 953 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 3: pick up or they did pick up a fifth year option, 954 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 3: but I know he's up after this year. Yeah, this 955 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 3: is more disarray in Cleveland, to say the least. Yeah. Yeah, 956 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 3: it's been a little disappointing since they drafted him. Oh starter, 957 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 3: but he's I thought he would be better than that 958 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 3: coming out of school. 959 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski told him he would no longer start well 960 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 2: instead serve as the swing tackle. Uh so he was 961 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 2: in the backup for their game against the Chargers a 962 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 2: few weeks ago, Jenfrick. 963 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 3: But I'm thinking more big picture. The Browns aren't winning 964 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 3: anything this year, and will want Jones is not a 965 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 3: left tack. That's my point is like that's one of 966 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 3: the few things you kind of have going for you. 967 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 3: Why mess with Jones? Right? 968 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 2: But he's the guy that's making all the money and 969 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 2: you're not going to bring him back next year when 970 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 2: you need cap space. 971 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 3: And he's a right tackle only. And I can understand 972 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,919 Speaker 3: you're not gonna make conkl in your left tackle either, 973 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 3: and somebody has to play the position. 974 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 2: But it's not good for Jones continue to continue to 975 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 2: start Wills if they just live with them. 976 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you played Watson right, It's just a selected right right. 977 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 3: Is he a bigger problem than your quarterback that got hurt? 978 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 3: I bet not. 979 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird, just weird. 980 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 3: Is the fancy to be the head coach there next year? 981 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 2: No? 982 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I'm not even sure it's his fault. 983 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 3: I never thought he's a two time Coach of the 984 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 3: Year type coach either. But I think there's a more 985 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 3: coaching changes than ever. I bet I could come with 986 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 3: twelve teams that might make a coaching gain. Yeah. 987 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 2: The Dolphins today placed the starting right tackle Austin Jackson 988 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 2: on injured reserve. 989 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 3: The line's not great. 990 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 2: Knee injury, right, he'll miss at least the next four games. 991 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 2: So they're gonna go with either Kendall Lamb or Patrick 992 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 2: Paul at right. 993 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 3: Paul's already No, They've been very fortunate. Armstead has been 994 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 3: great this year and he's actually played, but he's never 995 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 3: completed a season in his life. So I mean, I'm 996 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 3: just saying, if you lose your left tackle, if that's 997 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 3: on the horizon, oh boy. 998 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: The Rams meanwhile getting Austin I'm sorry, Jonah Jackson and 999 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 2: Steve Avilla. Yea healthy cup just came back, you know, 1000 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 2: like there's some good mojo there with some of these 1001 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: guys that they were without here playing tonight, right, Yeah, 1002 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 2: so their offensive line getting a little bit more healthy. 1003 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 3: Whereas to need more and more towards the Rams tonight. Yeah, 1004 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 3: I think I think you're right. 1005 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 2: There'll be a lot of points for some reason, my 1006 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 2: laptop just shut down on me. 1007 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 3: Oh well, I'm sure we could come something and talk 1008 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 3: about Absolutely, I'm just going to close it up. Chat 1009 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 3: very liberating, let's just chat. We do want chat about that. 1010 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1011 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 3: Steers are yesterday. 1012 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,919 Speaker 2: We should probably close out the show talking about that. Yeah, 1013 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 2: I thought that was a big win to go on 1014 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 2: the road against a good opponent again when we were 1015 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 2: taking somebody in our comments after our pick segment on 1016 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 2: on Friday said you guys were disrespectful to the Commanders. 1017 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 2: I'm like, we both picked it be a close game. 1018 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 2: I don't think just because we didn't pick the Commanders 1019 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 2: to win. I mean we didn't think it was you know, 1020 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 2: back and you were back and forth all week long. 1021 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 3: I was I picked the Steels win by three. I 1022 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 3: wasn't too far off in twenties. I took twenty three 1023 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 3: twenty six Steelers. I had twenty seven to twenty Steelers. Yeah, 1024 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 3: we weren't that far off. 1025 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: Far off. 1026 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 3: No, I don't think it was disrespectful. We've said a 1027 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 3: lot of good things about the Commanders throughout the week, 1028 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 3: especially later and later in the week going on the 1029 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 3: more homework I did, I was impressed with them. But 1030 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 3: one thing you said going into that game, I think 1031 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 3: that absolutely holds true is I think both those coaches 1032 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 3: had pretty strong Coach of the Year resumes going in. 1033 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that Quinn's he's not out of it, 1034 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 3: but a nice feather and Tomlin's got win the. 1035 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 2: NFC East, He's probably gonna win the award, I would think, 1036 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 2: I would think. 1037 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 3: I think Arizona's got a case too, He's got a case. 1038 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 2: The other thing, so if Andy Reid, if somehow they 1039 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 2: go unbelndefeated or I mean, I don't think thee will 1040 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 2: a long wait, I don't think they will. I think 1041 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 2: they're guys. They're gonna trip up at some point, maybe 1042 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:49,800 Speaker 2: maybe twice. 1043 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 3: They're not. 1044 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 2: I don't see that. It's really hard to win seventeen games. 1045 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 3: I don't think they'll win sixteen. 1046 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'd put the fifteen and two, which is awesome, 1047 00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 2: which is a great. 1048 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 3: Season, will still be the number one seed. Yeah right. 1049 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 3: And if I'm them, I would rather threepeat than go 1050 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 3: undefeated too. Like if it's do we rest guys at 1051 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 3: the end to get a win or any of that stuff, 1052 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 3: I would be hesitant. 1053 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 2: So on on NFL Network this morning, one of the 1054 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 2: one of them note because I can't remember. I was 1055 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 2: watching a bunch of different stuff and and they said 1056 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 2: Chiefs win again on their way to a three peat. 1057 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 3: Like they're not so early for that. Let's not. 1058 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 2: Let's not put the card in front of the horse here, 1059 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 2: all right. 1060 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 3: I know tomorrow's power ranking day, and if they have 1061 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 3: them won, I understand they're undefeated, but I don't know 1062 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 3: that they're a distant one. I know they're not a distance. Yeah, 1063 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 3: you know, I actually would probably have Detroit. 1064 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 2: Had Detroit was pretty impressive last night to overcome five. 1065 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 3: I mean they did not play their best early on, 1066 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 3: that's for sure. 1067 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, and still found a way to win. Yeah, that's 1068 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 2: culture thing it is. It makes like the Steelers winning 1069 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 2: that game yesterday was a culture thing, and I know. 1070 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 3: It's kind of fluky, but same with the Chiefs. I mean, 1071 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 3: block a kick the winning, you know, right, culture things. 1072 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 3: It feels like Beefs and Lions are kind of their year. 1073 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 3: They're kind of inevitable. They don't think either one's great. 1074 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's gonna do it for the show today, Matt, 1075 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 2: I'm talking about wins. Yeah, absolutely, I know everybody, we 1076 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 2: get more hitsing people talking about, more listens, more eyeballs, 1077 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 2: the whole deal. When when the Steelers win. 1078 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 3: I wonder if that's true after because now you know 1079 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 3: it's a successful season basically, you know, like it could 1080 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 3: be easy to be a roller coaster early, like, ah, 1081 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 3: they lost, they're gonna be bad, but you know they're good. 1082 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 3: If they happen to lose by one to Baltimore, do 1083 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 3: you and not tune in next week? 1084 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 2: And it doesn't make them a bad football team, right 1085 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 2: or Baltimore's good or us any less entertaining And I 1086 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 2: would hope not, but you know that happens. But for 1087 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 2: my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here running the 1088 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 2: Justin Miller hot line, uh, for Tyler vit Meyer here 1089 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 2: making sure that our video makes it up on Aaron, 1090 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 2: Tyler was with me in Washington yesterday, so Tyler had 1091 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 2: to hustle to get back to today as well. I'm 1092 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 2: Dale Lolly. We thank you for listening to this edition 1093 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 2: of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.