Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Speaker 1: Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
Speaker 1: TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to
Speaker 1: a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Speaker 1: Jersey Drive with executive producer Spike Lee and director Nick Domez.
Speaker 1: I auditioned every rapper from Biggie Smalls to Tupac, and
Speaker 1: I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help
Speaker 1: transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Speaker 1: Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons to name a few. I
Speaker 1: also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel
Speaker 1: I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
Speaker 1: I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
Speaker 1: acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
Speaker 1: that room. Now I know, I know actors want to
Speaker 1: get the job. I get that, but being remembered by
Speaker 1: casting director that is powerful. And now it's time for
Speaker 1: meditation of the day. Relax, no one else knows what
Speaker 1: they're doing either. Richard Gerris. There is comfort in knowing
Speaker 1: that you're not alone, and especially in these challenging times
Speaker 1: of war, just on a humanitarian level, how we treat
Speaker 1: each other as human beings. When you think that you're
Speaker 1: going through something and it is the worst, you don't
Speaker 1: see the bright light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 2: You have to know somewhere in your mind and your
Speaker 2: heart and your spirit.
Speaker 1: That there is someone that's going through something that's worse
Speaker 1: off than you, and at that time we pray for them,
Speaker 1: and we also continue to pray and appreciate love ourselves.
Speaker 1: I have a question in my private sessions that I
Speaker 1: ask my students, and I ask them to tell me
Speaker 1: a story when they celebrate themselves. And nine times out
Speaker 1: of ten people don't celebrate themselves, and they tell me
Speaker 1: that's a great thing, and that's a good idea. We
Speaker 1: all need to celebrate ourselves. We all need to build
Speaker 1: stronger and better communities, like Bobby said, because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, culturally we are all different. That
Speaker 1: is valid, But at the end of the day, as
Speaker 1: human beings, as spiritual beings, that's our connection and we
Speaker 1: should rest in the knowingness that we are not alone.
Speaker 1: Everybody else has failures, obstacles, hurdles, but knowing your heart,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get through it. You are because you have
Speaker 1: before today, I will rest in knowing I have a
Speaker 1: community that surrounds me and supports me. Before we get started,
Speaker 1: I'd like to remind everyone to look out for my
Speaker 1: new show, Inside the Black Box. I'll be co hosting
Speaker 1: with the great Joe Morton. We'll be on Crackle Network
Speaker 1: real soon. I'll keep you posted. Welcome to the Spirited
Speaker 1: Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore. You are in for
Speaker 1: a phenomenal treat. I'm so serious when I tell you
Speaker 1: I love doing the show because I have the opportunity
Speaker 1: to bring on my favorite people. And they're not just
Speaker 1: talented in their area of expertise, they're also just really
Speaker 1: solid people that just give back and have no idea
Speaker 1: how much influence and inspiration they are to the actors.
Speaker 2: So I speak for them. Ladies and gentlemen, please please put.
Speaker 1: Your hands together for director, editor, producer Bobby Yet.
Speaker 3: Thank you Tracy for having me. It really is honor
Speaker 3: to be here with you.
Speaker 4: It really is.
Speaker 1: No I love the fact that you say that to
Speaker 1: me because it, you know, it definitely grounds me and
Speaker 1: makes me sort of like, do this montage of my
Speaker 1: career and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it locked time.
Speaker 1: But I would tell you it's always so exciting to
Speaker 1: meet someone so talented like you, and sometimes it makes me,
Speaker 1: you know, like just want to put actors.
Speaker 2: In front of you. And just listened to Bobby.
Speaker 1: I cannot stress the wisdom that this young man has
Speaker 1: and has bought to so many of my students, and
Speaker 1: I'm grateful.
Speaker 2: I want to.
Speaker 1: Start at the beginning, Bumby, because you started out in
Speaker 1: like the world that I started in music videos.
Speaker 2: But I was, yeah, well before you were born.
Speaker 3: Oh please, but.
Speaker 2: Tell us how did you land in this business?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: I guess to answer that, I'll just say real quick,
Speaker 3: where I'm from. I'm from New York City, born and
Speaker 3: raise I was. I make it really quick. I was raising,
Speaker 3: born and raised Marhing Heights, and then we moved to
Speaker 3: Hollis Queen's which is where I kind of called my home.
Speaker 3: And then I went to school in New Orleans. So
Speaker 3: when you take all those together, I think that's like
Speaker 3: the gumball of who I became. Right, You take all
Speaker 3: this mixture of very interesting culture and you know, everybody together,
Speaker 3: and that became who I am in terms of my voice.
Speaker 3: Also my love of arts and then music is part
Speaker 3: of that, right, So I think it was very natural
Speaker 3: for me to fall into music videos because it was
Speaker 3: a natural transition for me to take art directing. Uh,
Speaker 3: you know a little bit of you know, working with musicians,
Speaker 3: which I liked, talent actors. I just put it all
Speaker 3: together because I love music. So I used to I
Speaker 3: used to sing when I was younger. It was my
Speaker 3: first love. I was a trained, trained singer. I was
Speaker 3: saying with gospel choirs and all this stuff. And I
Speaker 3: think music videos became this like me living vicariously through
Speaker 3: the artist I was working with. So I loved it.
Speaker 3: And then you know, I loved you know, I started
Speaker 3: with like hip hop, R and B. You all that's
Speaker 3: something child child of hip hop was born and raised
Speaker 3: in New York, you know.
Speaker 2: Alice Queens were it all?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, full circle you know later?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's so crazy. So do you because I
Speaker 1: know all of us, who are you know? When I
Speaker 1: was casting, I wanted to you know, peach and I
Speaker 1: wanted to direct, and I wanted to produce.
Speaker 2: We all have that. Do you feel that singing has
Speaker 2: gone away?
Speaker 1: Do you have a musical somewhere in you.
Speaker 4: I actually do.
Speaker 3: I'm writing a feature script very loosely based on my life.
Speaker 3: It's called Social Sam. So I'm actively working on it,
Speaker 3: and I'm I'm not mister writer, but I do love writing,
Speaker 3: you know, as a director. But I'm writing it as
Speaker 3: something for myself to direct. So anything that I will
Speaker 3: write will probably be something that I'm writing for myself.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It's loosely based on my life. It's about a young
Speaker 3: Asian American who moves down south and finds family through
Speaker 3: a gospel choir, a black gospel car which parallels my
Speaker 3: experience moving, you know, living in New Orleans and then
Speaker 3: joining my school's golfelchoirs. So it parallels me loosely, loosely,
Speaker 3: but I love it because it is an intergener you know,
Speaker 3: it's an intersection and culture. It's also an immigrant story
Speaker 3: because my family, my parents were immigrants, And I just
Speaker 3: think that today's world, we need films that are about love,
Speaker 3: that are about community, that are about positive energy, and
Speaker 3: ultimately about understanding each other and and not and not
Speaker 3: misunderstanding each other right and seeing the similarities of humanity.
Speaker 3: And again that's for me That's why I love film,
Speaker 3: you know, I love film. I love creating, working with writers,
Speaker 3: working with actors, because in the end, we're creating stories
Speaker 3: that I feel can impact you know, emotions, impact feelings
Speaker 3: in pact lives, right, we can and then hopefully, you know,
Speaker 3: do things that are slightly more positive. And that's why
Speaker 3: I like to watch a show or movie, you know,
Speaker 3: or even look at horror film. You just want to
Speaker 3: be scared. It's fun, but it also but it also
Speaker 3: makes you feel like you're living. It makes you feel live.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Something that there's a psychology of horror films is interesting
Speaker 3: because I've read that. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3: I read that watching a horror film mixture smarter, you
Speaker 3: get more focused on off because I don't know why
Speaker 3: there's a psychology behind it. Maybe someone else out there
Speaker 3: can tell us what that is. But I read it somewhere.
Speaker 3: All that's true enough, But anyway, that's no.
Speaker 2: That's I love the story because I agree with you.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like.
Speaker 1: One of my producers on the show we talk and
Speaker 1: she'll say to me, you know, Tracy, you know, why
Speaker 1: are people not up in arms or why?
Speaker 2: And I said, you know, the thing that we haven't done.
Speaker 1: We haven't tried love in this room consistently, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's been built on so much negative
Speaker 1: and I love the fact that you're storytelling even in
Speaker 1: because even through challenges, there's lights, there's love, there's something
Speaker 1: that comes.
Speaker 2: Out of that.
Speaker 1: Right. So culturally, I think it's great because it really
Speaker 1: gives a point of view from someone else's point of
Speaker 1: view other than a wide point of view which has
Speaker 1: a black person has always been a point of view
Speaker 1: for me living in America. So to hear you culturally
Speaker 1: being able to come in and you're open, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like there's no judgment, there's no no
Speaker 1: so it's got to be fierce, like coming from love to.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see this musical. I'm there, I
Speaker 2: am Well.
Speaker 3: It's a comedy drama with a little bit of obviously
Speaker 3: music right, yes, the gospel is singing has a lot
Speaker 3: of joy in it, right, but it also has a
Speaker 3: little bit of reality. Its slightly it's slightly more grounded
Speaker 3: as well. At least that's the plan, so we'll see. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm my producer. My producer attached to this is Ruben Cannon,
Speaker 3: I'm sure you know who he is and all shut
Speaker 3: out to Ruben, but we haven't spoken a while, but
Speaker 3: we need to get back on it. He believe the
Speaker 3: project a lot.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I let me tell you, Ruben Cannon was
Speaker 1: a friend in my head for like a thousand century.
Speaker 2: Like when I first started casting, I.
Speaker 1: Learned about Ruben Cannon, Kim Harden, and Robbie Reid because
Speaker 1: I was in New York.
Speaker 2: He was my best friend in my head. Always wanted
Speaker 2: to work with Ruben Cannon.
Speaker 1: He works with a friend of mine, and so my
Speaker 1: friend recommended me. And that's how I did Soul Santa
Speaker 1: with Terry Vaughn. And then after that, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it was And I told him, I was like, you
Speaker 1: don't understand, right.
Speaker 2: So I had a really.
Speaker 1: Elso worked on it also, and it was just a
Speaker 1: really great show. One of those shows where I know
Speaker 1: Terry from the Bay Area, so.
Speaker 2: We have known each other. So it was just like
Speaker 2: a really fun experience, you know.
Speaker 1: And I have to say, you know, like transitioning as
Speaker 1: a director, the thing that I really enjoyed with you
Speaker 1: being in our class and the notes that you gave
Speaker 1: our actors is that there was a tone that it was.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a sense of urgency like to get this done.
Speaker 1: It was more of you guys got to be consistent.
Speaker 1: You guys got to work on your craft every day.
Speaker 1: You can't just work on it because you might hear
Speaker 1: a director's coming into the class or you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like it today. This was a commitment that
Speaker 1: you make three hundred and sixty five days.
Speaker 2: A year, and I really appreciated you.
Speaker 5: Saying to thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I when I went into your class.
Speaker 3: Anytime I'm working with doctors, I want I want to
Speaker 3: see them succeed, right, you want them to yeah, I do.
Speaker 3: I want them to get to the point of getting
Speaker 3: their craft to the point, which is why again you're important.
Speaker 3: And the craft, the practice, the studies, it's important. Just
Speaker 3: like me as a director, I have to do my
Speaker 3: own after studies and practice and be and be in
Speaker 3: motion with that. But I'm always triving to be better
Speaker 3: and and I do feel that your actors just the
Speaker 3: fact that they're in the class means that they want
Speaker 3: to be better, and so the potential is there. The
Speaker 3: potential is for them to book a job, right, that's
Speaker 3: the goal. So they go into your class. I wanted
Speaker 3: them to get something out of it. I wanted them
Speaker 3: to be able to book a job, Get your job.
Speaker 3: I want to see you on TV, right when you
Speaker 3: see your face, every one of them. But again it's
Speaker 3: it's up to them, right, It's up to them, just
Speaker 3: like when I started. You know, I didn't know what
Speaker 3: I was doing when I started years ago, right, But
Speaker 3: you just keep you, just keep pushing, you try. You
Speaker 3: read so many So it's so even like screenwriting. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not a writer. I always say this, I do write.
Speaker 3: I've read every screenwriting book under the world. I've read everyone. Probably,
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a few I haven't read, but I've
Speaker 3: read a lot of them.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Part of Robert McKee, remember Robert McKee story?
Speaker 3: Yes story, Yes, love that book. Look, I love it.
Speaker 3: I read it. I read it twice. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I have a friend, an old friend of mine's that's
Speaker 3: his Bible Old Friends, and he's he used to read
Speaker 3: that all the time. And he's a book damn good
Speaker 3: writer I haven't heard from, but he's a damn good writer.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, for me, it's like even if
Speaker 3: I'm just the director for me to understand that writer's craft,
Speaker 3: it makes me a better director.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: It's all serving the purpose of creating a good project
Speaker 3: and putting it on screen meaningfully. That's that's the goal.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna tell you and my experience being on
Speaker 1: the set with directors like I love Googile Hunting. I
Speaker 1: was a huge fan, and to be able to work
Speaker 1: with gust fans that was just that book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this is my dream.
Speaker 1: But I will say, you know, I don't like to compare,
Speaker 1: but the energies are so same with you in terms
Speaker 1: of like you communicate, you talk to actors. You you
Speaker 1: know how to communicate and get what it is is
Speaker 1: that you want.
Speaker 2: You're an actor's director.
Speaker 1: And I can honestly say between being on set, like
Speaker 1: living on set between Buster and Eve, I would say
Speaker 1: five directors that I fell in love without all the
Speaker 1: directors that we because there was a lot of shots
Speaker 1: setting up shots, and then when I would have a
Speaker 1: conversation to get clarity, the director would say, you know,
Speaker 1: just you know, like and I'm like, no, you have
Speaker 1: to use your words. I don't know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: So I applaud you for that because actors like they
Speaker 1: crave for.
Speaker 2: Directors to just are there any adjustments, No, You're fine?
Speaker 2: Or yeah, you know? And d what's your.
Speaker 1: Opinion on that in terms, because I know you know directors,
Speaker 1: but you what type of director would you can consider yourself?
Speaker 3: I think I'm at this point in my career. I'm
Speaker 3: still I'm still. It's it's a weird place. I'm at
Speaker 3: that breaking point where I feel like I'm going to
Speaker 3: get those bigger jobs now, right, Like the goal is
Speaker 3: like Marvel movies, right, That's what I look stuff like that,
Speaker 3: that's the goal. But at the same time, I want
Speaker 3: to get my fruitball station. I want to get some
Speaker 3: of my artistic stuff out right. So it's a it's
Speaker 3: a it's an interesting place. I think at this moment,
Speaker 3: I'm going by feeling. It's the fact from reading us
Speaker 3: from reading a script to when I read a script,
Speaker 3: I'm marking it.
Speaker 4: Down for milles, right.
Speaker 3: And I learned that from definitely through like the Disney program,
Speaker 3: some of the and the Bryan Murphy program, some of
Speaker 3: the things that I've been through that they they really
Speaker 3: prep you how to like break down things, and I've
Speaker 3: really taken that to heart to break it down really carefully,
Speaker 3: but in doing so, and also like reading another book
Speaker 3: is another book by Mary Lou Belly and what's her name,
Speaker 3: Bethany Rooney. I forgot it's called Sorry, but amazing amazing
Speaker 3: directors in their own rights, but also amazing terms of
Speaker 3: preparation as a director. Again, the craft directing, there's so
Speaker 3: many levels to it. There is There is directing the actors.
Speaker 3: There's working with actors, and that comes from working with actors,
Speaker 3: you know, being a part of your class and other
Speaker 3: and maybe even taking acting classes myself, which I haven't
Speaker 3: done but I will one day. But also like the preparation,
Speaker 3: breaking down a script, breaking down scenes, you know, camera
Speaker 3: blocking and all these other things. There's a lot to it.
Speaker 3: I feel at this point in my career besides a
Speaker 3: technical I'm at a point where it's just about feeling.
Speaker 3: What does this make me feel? Wow, I'm looking at
Speaker 3: a scene, how does it make me feel? Look at
Speaker 3: the overall sprit? But I break it down my scene,
Speaker 3: but what's the tone?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 3: How does it emotionally hit me? How does the transition
Speaker 3: from one scene to another feel like? And That's what
Speaker 3: I'm working with in terms of how I direct, But
Speaker 3: then again, I'm also incorporating the actors intead, what are
Speaker 3: the beats, what are the beats in the scene that
Speaker 3: the actors can we can work with me on, right,
Speaker 3: I'm slightly technical, slightly technical, but I'm also slightly feeling
Speaker 3: at this point. I think that's my approach. Say what
Speaker 3: type of director am I?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Good, that's good.
Speaker 1: That really resonates in terms of because actors are going
Speaker 1: for my jugular right now with in terms of the strike,
Speaker 1: they are bringing up issues about zoom. I wanted to
Speaker 1: get your your energy on this in terms of do
Speaker 1: you prefer.
Speaker 2: Live auditions over zoom? How is the zoom working out
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 3: I mean, of course, I definitely definitely love you know,
Speaker 3: it's nothing that we're going to beat the in person
Speaker 3: you know, auditions, casting, whatever. And I was lucky enough
Speaker 3: to be able to go through that process on my
Speaker 3: first first film, which is called Mars. We did an
Speaker 3: extensive casting back in the day. So that was a
Speaker 3: good experience and that's amazing wonderful actors, some of which
Speaker 3: are really big right now. Right but again, if you're
Speaker 3: gonna we're doing the zooms right now, it's a new language. Right,
Speaker 3: it's a new language to learn. You know, where's the end?
Speaker 3: You know, how are you gonna set up with your background?
Speaker 3: What are you going to set up?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 3: I mean it takes practice, just like anything else. It's
Speaker 3: so I think actors kind of have to readjust themselves.
Speaker 3: Where are you looking at the camera? You know, you're
Speaker 3: looking at the camera or you're looking to the I
Speaker 3: mean psychologically makes a difference, right, who's the person reading
Speaker 3: with you? I personally think that makes a difference to
Speaker 3: get a decent person. And if you can't, you know,
Speaker 3: try try to just call a friend. Yes, I just
Speaker 3: did one with my other friend and I helped him
Speaker 3: do one, and I I just was on FaceTime with
Speaker 3: him and he just recorded my voice as he did his.
Speaker 3: So I didn't even see him. I was just meeting
Speaker 3: with them, just to help him, you know, do.
Speaker 4: What you can.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know more about that than I do
Speaker 3: at this point, because you're working with these actors very closely. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's a new it's a new system that
Speaker 3: they have to get in reach with. But think about it,
Speaker 3: there's a plus to this. The plus is now actors
Speaker 3: from Nebraska, Arkansas, I don't know. I'm just naming can
Speaker 3: send their tape in, right, and not to say you
Speaker 3: couldn't do that years ago. Yeah, but it's almost like
Speaker 3: required now, right, So whereas beforehand is like they might
Speaker 3: just want you to meet up in New York City
Speaker 3: or la, I don't know where else, Atlanta and just
Speaker 3: come to the open casting call. Whereas with the zooms
Speaker 3: and all that, at least now it's giving a few
Speaker 3: other people that might not be able to travel out
Speaker 3: there at that moment a chance to be seen. I
Speaker 3: think there is a plus to that as well.
Speaker 2: I do too.
Speaker 1: I just think that, like table reads are a little
Speaker 1: challenging for me. You know, It's like with when we
Speaker 1: do table reads, we have to go through the breakdowns.
Speaker 1: They have their own system, and initially on sol Phantom.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they've gotten much better now, but we were
Speaker 1: having so many glitches and that was the challenge then.
Speaker 1: But I also, I'm like you, I grew up and
Speaker 1: you know, excuse me, eighty seven in live auditions at MTV,
Speaker 1: and so like that's all I know. This zoom I'm
Speaker 1: simulating myself as well. We get a lot of volume,
Speaker 1: a lot of quantity, very little quality of the work
Speaker 1: that's out there, I do have to say, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Bobby directed a film for BET called Deadly Entanglement and
Speaker 1: it was starring Monica Calhoun and Vanessa Simmons. We talked
Speaker 1: about it here, Vanessa talked about it, and I was
Speaker 1: coaching Vanessa prior to knowing who the director was.
Speaker 2: And then one day she was.
Speaker 1: It was like early Bobby, I think it was maybe
Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2: For me, it was community, but I woke up.
Speaker 1: Early and she was like, this is one of the
Speaker 1: best directors I've ever worked with, Like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: she was.
Speaker 2: And it was perfect timing because I feel.
Speaker 1: Like there's a transition happening with Vanessa as well. And
Speaker 1: I just feel like she's in that place that you
Speaker 1: talked about so after the strike, ye.
Speaker 3: And she's there. I mean, she she killed it in
Speaker 3: that film, you know, And I distinctly felt that the
Speaker 3: work that she did with you had her prepared, It
Speaker 3: had her prepared, it did when she came. You know,
Speaker 3: she was already there at a certain level. She she
Speaker 3: just came, uh, you know, and I know she's working
Speaker 3: with Monica Calhoun, who was a superstar in her own right,
Speaker 3: and you know, at the top of her game. And
Speaker 3: I mean even Monica should be booking way bigger roles. Yeah, both,
Speaker 3: but Vanessa brought it in. And I do say the
Speaker 3: work you did with her together, you know, I saw it,
Speaker 3: I felt it. I felt it immediately I did.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, she wanted to make you proud. It was great.
Speaker 3: And the full circle moment is obviously you know, twelve
Speaker 3: years old, I moved to Hollis Queen's My idol is
Speaker 3: run DMC. Yeah, you know, and then years later I'm
Speaker 3: working with her daughter, with Run's daughter. It's just very,
Speaker 3: very wonderful full circle it really is.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It just keep confirming you are where you are because
Speaker 1: this is where you're supposed to be.
Speaker 2: Like that's how I feel like. There's these breadcrumbs.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, yes, like you know because
Speaker 1: my and I told you my ex husband was working
Speaker 1: with he was partners with Russell doing road managing for
Speaker 1: Run DMC and for who did didn't know that?
Speaker 6: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: This is the edited version.
Speaker 1: He managed full force LESA Lisa called m Cheryl Pepsi,
Speaker 1: Riley and Snow and UTFO took off with Roxanne Roxanne and.
Speaker 2: Then Lisa came after.
Speaker 1: But I met him in the studio and the story
Speaker 1: is Rodoc was sitting on the couch with Jamjay and
Speaker 1: they knew I was from California. They're like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: from California. Do you know rappers? And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: sugar Hill Gang and run stood up Bobby and he
Speaker 1: said like that my face.
Speaker 3: And I was like, so aggressive here in do you work?
Speaker 3: It's just wrap that. That's that Queen's eagle.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and Russell had. All I heard was
Speaker 2: hollow Queen's hollow queen. That's all I heard when I
Speaker 2: moved here because I lived in Harlem.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you in terms of, like I
Speaker 1: want to start off with in quotes, your pet.
Speaker 6: Peeves with actors and especially after you know now dealing
Speaker 6: with COVID MHM and those changes, and then tips, advice,
Speaker 6: things that you really.
Speaker 1: Instinctually that make you feel good about that actor.
Speaker 3: Pet peeves? Is there any pet peeves? I mean, I
Speaker 3: could just give you a big I don't really have
Speaker 3: pet peeves as much as just be a good person,
Speaker 3: the respectful person. And the older I've gotten, the more,
Speaker 3: the more humble I've gotten Honestly, you know, I'm not
Speaker 3: that twenty year old, you know kid that thought he
Speaker 3: knew everything. But I think as I get older, you
Speaker 3: just learned to just you learn. You learn how to
Speaker 3: be a better person, to work with more people, how
Speaker 3: to uh uh deal with criticism, receiving and getting all right.
Speaker 3: But I think the biggest tip I can give to
Speaker 3: an actor or if a director gives you a note,
Speaker 3: to try it a different way, find a way to
Speaker 3: do it right. And honestly, even if and I've said
Speaker 3: this in the class where you you know, even if
Speaker 3: the director is not even show what he or she
Speaker 3: is saying in the sense of they're trying to grasp
Speaker 3: at a feeling, and you know, let's just say they
Speaker 3: they're like, well, if you're the actor, you have to
Speaker 3: do some interpretation, right, So you do. You know, you
Speaker 3: could be working with the director that knows exactly what
Speaker 3: they want, and then you might be working but either way,
Speaker 3: you have to interpret that. So my suggestion for the
Speaker 3: actor is just try it again a different way. Do
Speaker 3: not repeat the same take the same way, especially if
Speaker 3: you're doing more than twice, then you're just unculchable you're
Speaker 3: not directable, then it becomes hard, and then it's less
Speaker 3: likely you'll get called back because you just have to
Speaker 3: try it different ways, right, even if it doesn't even
Speaker 3: if you're not sure as an actor, Like if I
Speaker 3: was an actor, I'm not, but I would just go
Speaker 3: all out everyone and do it a completely different version,
Speaker 3: of completely different version, just to try it because you
Speaker 3: just don't know what they're looking for, or you do right.
Speaker 3: And then usually in the ideal scenario, let's say I'm
Speaker 3: working with Vunesso, right, you know, or Monica. You you
Speaker 3: give the feedback and say even say, you know we
Speaker 3: wanted you know, there's a beat over here we don't
Speaker 3: want to miss, and you're going, I'm not good explaining
Speaker 3: in terms of it mustn't have been the moment, but you
Speaker 3: give the note they got it, and then they say
Speaker 3: I got it. And usually, you know, especially with these
Speaker 3: level of actors, they got it. Yeah, coming in and
Speaker 3: they are giving it completely the way that you thought
Speaker 3: it would be. It's amazing. It's a beautiful thing. But
Speaker 3: that comes from life experience in practice being an actor
Speaker 3: that has been doing it for a while. It takes time.
Speaker 3: Directing takes time. Writing takes tons of time and rewrites
Speaker 3: directing same thing when I first started, I am not
Speaker 3: the same person as I am now from the first
Speaker 3: film or first music video to where I'm at. I've
Speaker 3: learned so much. I've made mistakes, but I keep going
Speaker 3: and and I strive to be better. And I think
Speaker 3: I'm going to do that till I'm eighty years old.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna still do it. You know, my oh still
Speaker 3: saying my mentor have a mentor. My mentor is Michael Schultz.
Speaker 3: I think I told you that, Michael director of Cooley High, Last,
Speaker 3: Dragon Crush, roof car Wash, you nied, and still directing
Speaker 3: to this day, All American Homecoming and a whole bunch
Speaker 3: of yeah, yeah and uh. And he he truly is
Speaker 3: a person that embodies like a spirit. He's a he's
Speaker 3: a walking him and his family, his wife walking spirit.
Speaker 3: And when he's on that set, he he has a
Speaker 3: mastery of who he is, you know. And he's quiet,
Speaker 3: but he knows what he wants right. But he's also technical.
Speaker 3: He knows his stuff. He's done it so long. He
Speaker 3: knows what he's doing.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: I remember once he was on set, I was shadowing
Speaker 3: and He told me, I already know what I'm going
Speaker 3: to do in my head, already know how I'm going
Speaker 3: to edit it, and he just he just knows his
Speaker 3: you know, he's already organized every scene in his head.
Speaker 3: So well, it's that's a master. My goal is to
Speaker 3: be a master of my craft, you know. And I'm
Speaker 3: at a certain level now. But the key, and even
Speaker 3: as an actor, the key is always know there's more,
Speaker 3: there's more to learn, because once you feel like you
Speaker 3: don't know, that's when you stop learning. And we don't
Speaker 3: want to be like that, and I think that's when
Speaker 3: your life ends. You want to keep open. You want
Speaker 3: to keep your sear yourself open to experiencing new things,
Speaker 3: you know, no matter how old you are. And I
Speaker 3: just met someone, Uh. I was recently at the Queen's
Speaker 3: Queen City Film Festival and I met somebody. She told
Speaker 3: me she's a I think she says she was sixty something.
Speaker 3: And she says she's just transitioning over to production and
Speaker 3: film now. And I said, I know she was sixty
Speaker 3: or fifties, but I said, I said, you're fine. There's
Speaker 3: no time limit, an age limit to directing or writing
Speaker 3: or acting. There is no do it at any age.
Speaker 3: You can start over and just decide to do that.
Speaker 3: That's the beauty of it. There is no issue of it, right,
Speaker 3: So now there you could be You could be amazing.
Speaker 3: You could be eighty years old directing the film of
Speaker 3: your life or writing the film of your life. So
Speaker 3: you just don't know, you don't.
Speaker 2: Those were I have to say those were some.
Speaker 1: I hope all of you have your treasure chess open
Speaker 1: because he was dropping major diamonds and pearls and inmvals,
Speaker 1: so I.
Speaker 2: Catch him amazing.
Speaker 1: I do want to say this though, with my actors
Speaker 1: that I coach for, like Vanessa, they have to have
Speaker 1: between five and seven choices per scene. When you understand
Speaker 1: the scene, you understand how to say it, and you
Speaker 1: as long as you keep the integrity, you could say
Speaker 1: it different ways. And so because I say you want
Speaker 1: to have a choice for the director, you don't know
Speaker 1: who you're going to be working with the actor. That's
Speaker 1: another choice. Maybe you're editor, But come to this set
Speaker 1: with five to seven choices per scene, because it's not
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up.
Speaker 2: I'm old school. I grew up with Ruby d and
Speaker 2: Ozzie Davis.
Speaker 1: Like you know, and you know them instilling work ethics
Speaker 1: of I don't care, I said one time I.
Speaker 5: Was a writer.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're sitting there and you're not
Speaker 1: doing you're touching the keys. You sit there for an
Speaker 1: hour every single day, and then eventually, next thing you know,
Speaker 1: nine hours has passed. So that's great advice. I'm going
Speaker 1: to open it up now, Bobby. We have some actors.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that they are jumping up and down waiting
Speaker 1: to ask some questions.
Speaker 2: So Elson's gonna come on and she's going to introduce
Speaker 2: our actors today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you, Bobby. That was full of gems. Of course,
Speaker 5: of course, so today we have missed a Fonso Walker Junior.
Speaker 5: You can come on screen on Fundo.
Speaker 1: And then you know Nicky Thomas.
Speaker 5: I did so fine, so you can flow.
Speaker 2: Up with your question first.
Speaker 7: You put me first, Bobby Man, thank you for being here, brother.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: I'm earlier in your interview, you talked to you a
Speaker 7: little bit about community and as artists, I know it
Speaker 7: is big for us to have people in our corner.
Speaker 7: I want to ask you who is your community or
Speaker 7: the people that affirmed you uh to follow your path
Speaker 7: and you know, give you the confidence in order to
Speaker 7: do what you're doing now.
Speaker 3: Of course, it's going to be your your your family
Speaker 3: and your friends first, right, It's always in your family, friends,
Speaker 3: You keep your you keep yoursel I've learned to keep
Speaker 3: my circle pretty tight, right yeah. And I've definitely have
Speaker 3: a core group of people that have been in my
Speaker 3: life for many many years. For my best friend, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, both personal and a slim production. And then
Speaker 3: also you know, if you can build relationships and as
Speaker 3: an actor with a fellow fellow actors as well, you know,
Speaker 3: come up together. I've heard about actors supporting each other
Speaker 3: through the years, you know, helping each other. You know,
Speaker 3: one gets up and you pull another up, all right.
Speaker 3: And I know for me, you know, even me having
Speaker 3: a mentor you know, myself, I also have other other
Speaker 3: director friends that I hold very dearly to my heart,
Speaker 3: and you know, I know that when I have a chance,
Speaker 3: I'm going to pull them up, you know, pull them
Speaker 3: up with me, you know, so anytime I can. So,
Speaker 3: I think you have to kind of feel the energy
Speaker 3: of a person that's personal, right. Who you want to
Speaker 3: have around is personal. It's business, but it's personal. And
Speaker 3: if you can have a good fine line balance. That's good,
Speaker 3: you know. And I've definitely, I know you're saying, I've
Speaker 3: definitely had my ins and outs with with people that
Speaker 3: have not been very you know, sincere in terms of
Speaker 3: their their intentions with me. And I had to learn.
Speaker 3: And that's part of growth. You're going to learn and
Speaker 3: and honestly is the more you get success, the more
Speaker 3: you're going to encounter people trying to enter that field,
Speaker 3: and you just have to be more you know, what's
Speaker 3: the word. There's the word for it.
Speaker 4: H discerning.
Speaker 3: Yes, discernment, discernment, church work.
Speaker 2: Good word.
Speaker 4: Thank you, man, I appreciate you, thank you.
Speaker 8: I guess I'm next. I'm Devin Nikki Thomas. Thank you
Speaker 8: so much for being here. I think that your story
Speaker 8: is really inspiring. And then your message for us to
Speaker 8: keep going and to keep pushing in that, like I think,
Speaker 8: just to comment and then I'll get ASTOK.
Speaker 4: My question.
Speaker 8: I think it's really easy to get caught up in
Speaker 8: age and I don't look a certain way or you know,
Speaker 8: like this is not one but I'm too old or
Speaker 8: too young, or too fat or too black or too
Speaker 8: whatever to be it. And so I really appreciate you listening. Hey,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. It is what it is
Speaker 8: you want to do. There's no like end time because
Speaker 8: where you are and this is something that Miss Tracy
Speaker 8: says a lot that like where you are is where
Speaker 8: you're supposed to be. I'm paraphrasing, but she says that
Speaker 8: a lot. So it's really great.
Speaker 9: To hear that's shared like knowledge. So I appreciate that.
Speaker 8: My question is a little more I don't know controversial
Speaker 8: is the right word, but what I will say is
Speaker 8: that there's been a push for diversity, equity, inclusion, and
Speaker 8: accessibility all throughout the government, in Hollywood, et cetera. What
Speaker 8: are your thoughts on how the paradigm is changing and
Speaker 8: kind of seemingly there are people that seem to want
Speaker 8: to push it back to what it was before.
Speaker 9: Miss Tracy, you say something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, sorry, okay, I'll just continue. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's great question. I think this historically. I know that
Speaker 3: there is an there's an ebb and flow of the
Speaker 3: diversity push. Right, you know, twenty twenty we had you know,
Speaker 3: the horrible you know I call the murder of George
Speaker 3: Floyd that that caused a whole worldwide response because again,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, say, the revolution is televised. Now
Speaker 3: we can see it. We have phones. Everybody can see.
Speaker 3: The things that are happening now. I think have been
Speaker 3: happening since the fifties and sixties, right, one hundred, two hundred,
Speaker 3: four hundred years. It's all the same, It's still happening.
Speaker 3: I think, what we see and I look back, and
Speaker 3: as I look back on things that I grew up,
Speaker 3: you know, watching it's it's films, especially in America, it's
Speaker 3: films at the center of who we are. When I
Speaker 3: say the center of who we are in terms of
Speaker 3: you know, non white people, black, you know, specifically black,
Speaker 3: and also Asian and Latino and other peoples and indigenous people,
Speaker 3: it is it is really important, I think too, to
Speaker 3: have stories that that have that you know, I say,
Speaker 3: us collectively have centering of other cultures aside from the
Speaker 3: decentering of our cultures. Right, it is important. It's not
Speaker 3: it's it can you can never argue that that's not
Speaker 3: important because it affects the psychology of a little child
Speaker 3: to see themselves on screen, to not to see themselves
Speaker 3: on screen. There is a psychological warfare of being being
Speaker 3: put to de center two, to dehumanize a person, to
Speaker 3: not learn your history, and also and ultimately to put
Speaker 3: people in prison, the prison pipeline system.
Speaker 4: That's real.
Speaker 3: As some people inform me recently world the things I've
Speaker 3: learned about as well, I'm not that political with that stuff,
Speaker 3: but it's real.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So with that being said, it is extremely important right
Speaker 3: now for us to continue to fight for having diversity, uh,
Speaker 3: not just the black show or white show or Asian show,
Speaker 3: but having us in every single thing, you know, us collectively,
Speaker 3: to have us, have you him, everybody in roles that
Speaker 3: could be colored bline, because the more we see ourselves better,
Speaker 3: we need to see ourselves on the screen. It's very important,
Speaker 3: and it is psychological warfare. That is one of the
Speaker 3: ways that you know, systems of power, racism is still here.
Speaker 3: It's it's built upon usage of what we see, you know,
Speaker 3: and pulling away history, not teaching history or teaching untruths.
Speaker 3: And again, as filmmakers, as creatives, as actors, you have
Speaker 3: this ability now to tell stories and it's like really
Speaker 3: little moving grios. We get to keep the stories alive, right,
Speaker 3: we have to see ourselves as that And with that
Speaker 3: being said, I think it's really interesting when I look back,
Speaker 3: even on my time in music videos, which was like
Speaker 3: twenty five years ago, when I look back on music views,
Speaker 3: I'm going to plug the music videos. Side note. Music
Speaker 3: videos are literally tapestries culture and history of the time,
Speaker 3: the fashion, the speech, the political, the political viewpoints. Music
Speaker 3: videos collectively show you what the culture is, especially hip hop,
Speaker 3: Black Latino culture of that time period. It's amazing from
Speaker 3: all around the world. It's a history. It's history. It's history,
Speaker 3: you know, Indigenous. Some of it is fake, I know,
Speaker 3: but within the fakeness there's there's still some realness with it.
Speaker 3: So I look back on it with fondness now. Like
Speaker 3: years later, after I left music, I was like, you
Speaker 3: know what we really we all like we're participating in
Speaker 3: collecting pieces of culture, you know. But again falling back
Speaker 3: to what you're saying, now, it's going to go it's
Speaker 3: going to go up and down.
Speaker 4: I knew.
Speaker 3: I knew this whole diversity push after George Floyd, the
Speaker 3: deis are all being it's a diversity inclusion, equity and
Speaker 3: inclusion programs from all these corporations are being dismantled as
Speaker 3: we speak. I knew that was going to happen. It
Speaker 3: was all for show. But here's the catch. The catch
Speaker 3: as we continue as creatives to make films, make shows,
Speaker 3: make webisodes, make YouTube videos, whatever you got to do
Speaker 3: to continue to tell stories, to just push it out
Speaker 3: there and push out the imagery you want to see,
Speaker 3: the stories you want to tell, because they can't stop.
Speaker 3: They can't stop because everybody has a fallen name. You
Speaker 3: can shoot something on your own. You can shoot a
Speaker 3: YouTube skit that could be viral and create success for
Speaker 3: yourself and give yourself a platform to be heard. We
Speaker 3: don't know. It could be anywhere, right, TikTok major platform
Speaker 3: right now for many young creatives and older creatives as well,
Speaker 3: and if you utilize it properly, you can make something.
Speaker 3: And again, it's about being a culture shifter. We are
Speaker 3: culture shifters. That's what film to me is at least
Speaker 3: my interest in it. Right, we're shifting culture, we're telling stories,
Speaker 3: we're entertaining right. But again, to me, what you just
Speaker 3: said to me is extremely valid. Thank you for asking
Speaker 3: their question because it's going to go up and down,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, look at the nineties, it was
Speaker 3: a way was a CW came out and there was
Speaker 3: all these black shows came out right, and then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden it disappeared, and then it went silent
Speaker 3: for years, for years. Right, But now what do we have?
Speaker 3: We have reality shows, you know, not the most positive thing, right,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of in.
Speaker 3: Flux with real I don't really watch reality shows, but
Speaker 3: it is valid put people on TV, you know. I
Speaker 3: try to look at the positive of it. It puts
Speaker 3: different faces on television, you know. But again, there's a wave,
Speaker 3: and we have to know what that wave is. But
Speaker 3: we can also shift that wave. We can control it
Speaker 3: with our work.
Speaker 9: I think that the I'm sorry, can I follow?
Speaker 2: No, go ahead?
Speaker 8: I was just saying a great my only I think
Speaker 8: that there's a place for everything.
Speaker 9: There's a place for.
Speaker 8: What's going on with there's certain like personalities this one
Speaker 8: that just had a baby and she's with a pretty
Speaker 8: well known rapper, so like there's a place for her.
Speaker 9: And then there's also a place for the really wholesome content.
Speaker 8: I My issue, the thing that I like that hurts
Speaker 8: my heart a lot is the fact that it seems
Speaker 8: that what is greenlit or green lighted, whatever the proper
Speaker 8: term term for proper term is is the stuff that's
Speaker 8: going to glorify the things that show less savory aspects
Speaker 8: of culture. And I mean that as like big culture
Speaker 8: with a big C, not just black culture, but just
Speaker 8: oh see, look at them.
Speaker 9: That's how they are, that's how they are.
Speaker 8: And I think I feel like that that, like sexy
Speaker 8: red is is a is a rapper that is out
Speaker 8: right now.
Speaker 9: She's really popular, she.
Speaker 8: Has a play, she's valid, she is who she is.
Speaker 8: I was trying not to say a bunch of names.
Speaker 8: My apologies there, but there are a lot of people
Speaker 8: that are out right now that have value, and it
Speaker 8: just seems like the powers that be tend to just
Speaker 8: kind of gravitate towards the things that are more negative.
Speaker 8: So I mean that that's it. But I appreciate your
Speaker 8: you being here, and I appreciate your.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you, But ever for every person that's promoting
Speaker 3: a sexy read and again, no no response on who
Speaker 3: she is in terms of I mean, I respect who
Speaker 3: she is. But there's always the other side. There's like
Speaker 3: there's Avid Debernas right that are putting out you know,
Speaker 3: meaningful projects. Right, There's there's two sides of every coin,
Speaker 3: and and as as an actress, creative, whatever you're doing,
Speaker 3: you must define what your voice is.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 3: You have the power to define what you're what you
Speaker 3: want to say, right, because they're going to be out there,
Speaker 3: and yes, the labels, the record labels and film production
Speaker 3: companies and TV shows, they're gonna they're going to promote
Speaker 3: what they're going to promote because that's what they do.
Speaker 3: But for every one of those that you can, you
Speaker 3: can come up with your own thing that has something different,
Speaker 3: that says something different.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So we need more living singles on shot stave, but
Speaker 3: we need more stuff like that, right, Okay, but we
Speaker 3: definitely there's some, Okay, but we have so many other
Speaker 3: things that can be made. Can There's so much of
Speaker 3: other stories to tell. So I say, if there's negative,
Speaker 3: then can read positive create something else and then and
Speaker 3: then find a niche audience that's going to want that
Speaker 3: and then amplify that. I know it's hard, but again,
Speaker 3: once you define your voice, that's the key is you know,
Speaker 3: you you uh, finding who you are and then focusing
Speaker 3: your energy on that, that's the key.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Even for me as as a director, as a creative,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm still trying to define. You know, I
Speaker 3: know who I am, but now I got to figure
Speaker 3: out how how am I going to amplify that tool?
Speaker 3: What type of stories am I trying to tell?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: So, I mean it's a journey. And again there's no
Speaker 3: time limit. You have your whole life to do it.
Speaker 3: So don't stress, don't shread. But I love how you
Speaker 3: are so aware of what's going on. Now keep that
Speaker 3: up and still be and be a critic. We need
Speaker 3: people like you. Be a critic, Be a critic, get
Speaker 3: on YouTube, get on TikTok. Top of that, it's just
Speaker 3: playing all right job.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Bobby, Thank you so much. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Alfonso Walker Junior, and also Devin Nikki Thomas, thank you.
Speaker 1: When we come When we come back, we're still blessed.
Speaker 1: Bobby is still with us, and we're going to do
Speaker 1: class in session, So stay tuned when we come back
Speaker 1: on the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore,
Speaker 1: and we're going into class in session.
Speaker 2: You are still blessed to have.
Speaker 1: The presence of director, editor, producer, and just overall great
Speaker 1: human being and mister Bobby Ann is here, So we're
Speaker 1: going to have some fun now in classroom session because
Speaker 1: he's going to hear scene from Spirit Actor alumni that
Speaker 1: Elsa is going to introduce to you guys.
Speaker 5: Yes, today on classes session, we have mister Alfonso Walker Junior.
Speaker 4: Welcome back, blessing having me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we have Miss Devin Nikki Thomas. Welcome to Devin.
Speaker 9: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 5: So today's scene is written by our very own Miss
Speaker 5: Lean Hansbury aka Elen a motto. It's called under the Rubble,
Speaker 5: Interior apartment building day. Joaquin, now fully alert, looks around
Speaker 5: as he's heard a noise. It's been hours since he's
Speaker 5: heard anything. He scratched up, covered in debris. The sunlight
Speaker 5: peeks through the rubble, giving us and him just enough
Speaker 5: to see through.
Speaker 7: Hello, it's someone else. If you can hear me, keep
Speaker 7: making noise.
Speaker 5: He hears it again with urgency. He starts shifting through
Speaker 5: what he can to get closer to where the sound
Speaker 5: is coming from. Keep he hears it more. The more
Speaker 5: he shifts, the more it all looks the same to us,
Speaker 5: but he's excited. The sound gets louder and he sees
Speaker 5: movement and he reaches in.
Speaker 4: I see you.
Speaker 5: I'm coming With all of his might. He moves all
Speaker 5: that he can where he sees motion. As he finds
Speaker 5: her arm and pulls it.
Speaker 2: Out, pushing me.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get you help.
Speaker 5: With struggling force, he bangs her through full of dirt.
Speaker 5: Outcomes a beautiful young woman. She embraces immediately. While she
Speaker 5: gasps for air, she calms down a bit.
Speaker 2: Where are we?
Speaker 4: It was an earthquake and we couldlapse. How long it's been?
Speaker 4: But you only because just the noise I heard?
Speaker 7: How do we get out?
Speaker 4: We get out?
Speaker 9: I'm never gonna find us.
Speaker 4: Wait. Look, we made it this far. You have to
Speaker 4: keep calm. Any exestress in your body won't help. We
Speaker 4: don't make it out. M h walking Shana.
Speaker 5: They smile at each other, happy just not to be alone.
Speaker 4: Were you at home in your apartment?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 4: Thank god, me too.
Speaker 5: She tries to look around and realizes she can't see
Speaker 5: through anything.
Speaker 9: You you really think we're gonna make it out?
Speaker 5: He nods his head yes, and then simultaneously they hear
Speaker 5: a screech and yell. They break their necks to look
Speaker 5: at each other. It's too far, he looks around, considering
Speaker 5: going for help, and Shanna grabs his arm. He looks
Speaker 5: back at her.
Speaker 9: Whatever you do, please don't leave me.
Speaker 2: You don't leave me.
Speaker 4: Were gonna make it out. Okay, that's me. I got
Speaker 4: a little girl back at home. Now I'm gonna stop
Speaker 4: me from getting back.
Speaker 5: To Janna nods her head in agreement. His story about
Speaker 5: his daughter has inspired her, but she's drained but filled
Speaker 5: with emotions.
Speaker 4: But she's following my lead.
Speaker 5: He decides to move, and she follows and begins pushing
Speaker 5: through the rubble with him.
Speaker 2: Scene.
Speaker 1: Your vector is okay, all right, Bobby, I'm going to
Speaker 1: give it to you, and what and I want you
Speaker 1: to take give them notes whatever you feel.
Speaker 3: Great job, I mean number one, it's it was really
Speaker 3: really uh visceral, you know, right from the beginning, I felt,
Speaker 3: even just on the zoom, I think you're a great
Speaker 3: example of taking a zoom and taking the space that
Speaker 3: you have and making the best use of it, right,
Speaker 3: like even you off you have such a limited space there,
Speaker 3: but I think I felt, I felt where.
Speaker 4: You were right.
Speaker 3: I think the same thing with you, like your legs
Speaker 3: up all that. I mean, it was really I thought
Speaker 3: it was a great physical physical physicality within the little
Speaker 3: space that it almost made me feel like I was
Speaker 3: in that world, right, so, and even if I just
Speaker 3: took the visuals away in the sound and just listening
Speaker 3: to your voices, this is a podcast, right it could
Speaker 3: be an audio podcast. I felt the urgency I did.
Speaker 3: I really felt the urgency. You guys are great. You
Speaker 3: did a great job. Excellent job, felt urgency within the tension.
Speaker 3: Even the sound effects, the banging, all that stuff was great.
Speaker 3: If there's any note to have, I think the point
Speaker 3: where I mean this is really technical and maybe very unnecessary,
Speaker 3: but I felt like the shift between the take my
Speaker 3: hand part maybe that's where I felt like the physical
Speaker 3: disconnect to someone. I couldn't really tell you what to
Speaker 3: do because you're trying to walk. You can't walk, so
Speaker 3: and then moving the rubble, maybe you can move a
Speaker 3: little bit. But I just feel like maybe there we
Speaker 3: can enhance a little bit of like Nikki scared, you're
Speaker 3: scared he's gonna leave you. And I felt like the
Speaker 3: transition there could have been a little sharper, just a little,
Speaker 3: just a little not much. I'm really I'm being so
Speaker 3: magnipicy at this point, because you guys are excellent. But
Speaker 3: if you really want feedback, that's my feedback, you know,
Speaker 3: just the end part. I felt like could edged up
Speaker 3: a little bit, but everything else is excellent.
Speaker 2: Trasy, these are my favorite actors, so like I can
Speaker 2: see I can see why, I can see why. I
Speaker 2: don't know what to say.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell you that I definitely love
Speaker 1: seeing them together. I don't think I've ever seen them together,
Speaker 1: but separately they stand in their own night. I thought
Speaker 1: that what was great too is just the pay thing.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: Else is that you have to send the tone in
Speaker 2: that action.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought that the tone was set and
Speaker 1: that just gave that momentum.
Speaker 2: You know. I agree with you, though, Bobby.
Speaker 1: I felt there too, like I've been in earthquakes and
Speaker 1: I just felt like my heart started and I was.
Speaker 2: In San Francisco in the seventies.
Speaker 3: Yes, so I'm really big. I'm big on eyes. I'm
Speaker 3: really big on eyes. And even the zoom, your your
Speaker 3: eye contact, even through the zoom was connecting. It felt connected.
Speaker 3: Just watching it on two different boxes, I felt the
Speaker 3: emotion in the eyes. And for me, a good actor
Speaker 3: can just act just with their eyes along and make
Speaker 3: me feel what they're feeling, and I think you guys had.
Speaker 4: That for me, so said that that.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna make sure I give your email to Elsa,
Speaker 1: and we like to always send pictures and resumes of
Speaker 1: our classes session to you so that you have them
Speaker 1: for your file.
Speaker 2: But I don't have anything to say to these people.
Speaker 2: They know how I feel. I'm just glad that they
Speaker 2: were here.
Speaker 10: Al thank you very much, Nicky Dallas excellent, and Elsa,
Speaker 10: thank you for casting class and session.
Speaker 1: Bobby, like seriously, like I could hang out with you
Speaker 1: all the time, Like you are such the dude I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, Like, I just feel like there was in
Speaker 1: a very very exciting time and independent world when I
Speaker 1: came up, and you make me get excited like that again,
Speaker 1: because it's very rare that you have conversations with directors
Speaker 1: as don my experience on set or you know, so
Speaker 1: I see the immediate gratification for the actors, and I'm
Speaker 1: so intented, so grateful. Thank you so much for being
Speaker 1: on the show. Come back anytime, anytime.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me. Like I said,
Speaker 3: it's an honor to be here, and it's always it's
Speaker 3: a gift to be able to to just talk to
Speaker 3: talk and talk about life and everything and meet some
Speaker 3: amazing actors that obviously are going to are going to
Speaker 3: be stars. So I can tell.
Speaker 1: You saw me here first well the Spirited After book,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And when we come back on
Speaker 1: the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore, we are
Speaker 1: going to give some love.
Speaker 2: And now we have Kudo's Corner.
Speaker 1: Kudos Corner is a segment where we celebrate, we love
Speaker 1: up on these actors, we support them, we let them
Speaker 1: know that we're not going anywhere, and we are going
Speaker 1: to stay in their lives.
Speaker 2: It's all the good thing.
Speaker 1: So today in Kudo's Corner, we are going to celebrate
Speaker 1: Alfonso Walker Junior. I just want to say when I
Speaker 1: met Alfonso through Ulysses Terrera, and the great part about
Speaker 1: this is that we're a community and Ulysses invited me
Speaker 1: to a showcase and I will never, ever, ever, ever
Speaker 1: forget my experience with Alfonso Walker Junior.
Speaker 2: I just the showcase couldn't be over quick enough for
Speaker 2: me to just run up to this dude. It just like, yes,
Speaker 2: what do you need? How can I help? I am
Speaker 2: of service of you.
Speaker 1: Alfonso is currently starring as and I pray that I'm
Speaker 1: pronouncing this right. But Delias in the play as much
Speaker 1: as I can. And this is from the director Logan Vaughn.
Speaker 1: And it opens up in October in Chicago and we'll
Speaker 1: be next up in Atlanta. Wow November two through the eighteenth.
Speaker 1: We got to find some way to support you on
Speaker 1: this man and he has Oh my God, I saw
Speaker 1: him on Broadway and Passover. He was also in the
Speaker 1: Skin of Our Teeth on TV Blue Bloods, The Equalizer,
Speaker 1: East New York and Law and Order. Alfonso Walker Junior
Speaker 1: continues to have and create a stellar career for himself
Speaker 1: because he puts in the work. He is the work,
Speaker 1: knows the work. So we congratulate and say kudos to
Speaker 1: Alfonso Walker Junior.
Speaker 2: And now it's time to give love.
Speaker 1: I was going through my ig the other day and
Speaker 1: Adele had a song that she was singing and it
Speaker 1: went something like this, I don't have to explain to you.
Speaker 2: I'm a grown woman and I do what I want
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: That resonated with me, and I'm going to tell you
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why it resonated with.
Speaker 2: Me is because a lot of people have.
Speaker 1: Opinions on what you should be, what you should have,
Speaker 1: what you should say. It's your life. That's what I
Speaker 1: wanted to say. It's your life, and you don't need
Speaker 1: the noise to dictate your behavior, your verbiage, nothing, and
Speaker 1: especially I'm a woman of a particular age. I have
Speaker 1: grown in this life and in this world to acquire
Speaker 1: experience that has bought wisdom, that has bought knowledge. So
Speaker 1: this is my new thing now. When I want to
Speaker 1: shut down the noise and I hear it in my
Speaker 1: head and I feel it in my soul, I don't
Speaker 1: have to explain anything to you. I am a grown
Speaker 1: woman and I do what I want to do. Don't
Speaker 1: forget to look out for us on our new show,
Speaker 1: Inside the Black Box. My co host will be Joe
Speaker 1: the Legend Morton. It's going to be the Spirited Actor
Speaker 1: Podcast on Steroids. We'll be streaming on the Crackle network.
Speaker 1: I'll keep you posted. Thank you for joining us on
Speaker 1: the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore. I look
Speaker 1: forward to our next Spirited Podcast.
Speaker 2: Thank you,