1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: What do you do when life doesn't go according to plan? 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: That moment you lose a job, or a loved one, 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: or even a piece of yourself. I'm Brookshields and this 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: is now What, a podcast about pivotal moments as told 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: by people who lived them. Each week, I sit down 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: with a guest to talk about the times they were 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: knocked off course and what they did to move forward. 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: Some stories are funny, others are gut wrenching, but all 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: are unapologetically human and remind us that every success and 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: every setback is accompanied by a choice, and that choice 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: answers one question. Now what, there's a there's total total sisterhood. 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: And then Nanny Connie for sure, I. 13 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: Know, teach me, please God, teach me. 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Oh she's the best. So she made you let's see 15 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: potato chip cookies. 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: Yet I know, and I'm pissed off. 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Tell her to get get on that. 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: I don't know about you. 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: I absolutely suck at anything domestic in my life. I 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: basically feel like I'm back at college. I'm learning everything. 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: And you know, when she asked me, do you have this, 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: prime example, do you have a bunt cake pan? My 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: husband then looks for her and goes a bum cake, 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: No idiot, no a bunt. I don't have one, girl, 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: Go to your neighbor and go get one. 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: We got. 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I am learning, burping the baby, changing the baby. 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: What I'm missing in my kitchen. It's been a real 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: tutorial over here. 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: My guest today is veterans sportscaster and new mom Aaron Andrews. 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Aaron has been in the game for decades, as a 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: fixture at Fox Sports and a familiar face to millions 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: who watched the NFL e tweek. Outside of football, she's 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: covered in a number of other pro sports, host a 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: TV shows, has a successful clothing line, and co hosts 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: the podcast Calm Down with fellow sportscaster Carissa Thompson. Aaron 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: is down right impressive. She's one of those people who 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 1: seems to meet every challenge head on. I am grateful 39 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: for her time and vulnerability, and I hope that you 40 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: enjoy our conversation as much as I did. Here is 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: Erin Andrews. First of all, congratulations, Oh thank you, and 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: nice to meet too. Nice to meet you too, baby Mac. 43 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: How old is see? 44 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: So he is going to be I guess he was. 45 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: He's gonna be six weeks this week? Yeah, hey, can 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: I just ask as a mother? My husband and I 47 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: are having a really hard time when you like see 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: a couple or you see a mother and you're like, oh, 49 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: how old your baby and they're like seventeen months? And 50 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: he's like, are we going to be those people? Because 51 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if I am, maybe I will be. 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: A lot of stuff is already surprising me. I feel 53 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: like I'll be like, well, he's a little over a year, 54 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 3: But what is with the calculation? 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: I can't do math that fast. 56 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: That's such a funny question, you know. I think it's 57 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: that your life changes so drastically that you're just and 58 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: the days feel so long. Then the years go by 59 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: really quickly. So I think that it's just this documentation 60 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: of like, and that was another day I survived. Oh wait, 61 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: we got through a week, you know. So I do 62 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: think that that it's this like it's like a badge 63 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: of honor to be like seventeen months and four. 64 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: Days exactly in fifteen minutes. 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: It's like a life sentence, except you're you're checking off 66 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: the days. Yeah, because your life will never be the same. However, 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: you won't trade it for anything, but by the same token. 68 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: They they're total strangers. Yeah, and they live off of you, 69 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: like in your house, and it's it's bizarre, Like it's 70 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: very strange. You guys have to get to know each. 71 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: Other exactly well, and even more so for me because 72 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 3: there's no connection in terms of me carrying him, you know, 73 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: I almost feel like it's so interesting the guy in 74 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 3: the relationship. They always talk about, you know, the person 75 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 3: that didn't carry the baby, and how you know whoever 76 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: that is didn't really connect with the baby and it 77 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 3: takes a minute. 78 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: And so that's. 79 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: Something with Nanny Connie that when I normally live in 80 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 3: La and we have a place out here in Montana, 81 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: and she said, after you have this baby, let's go 82 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: to Montana because we're here, and I don't you know, 83 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: a lot of my friends didn't come out this summer, 84 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: which is good because I'm in it with him. 85 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: Trying to learn him. 86 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: So I don't know if that's something I've kind of 87 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: created in my head, but I feel like, even more so, 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: my connection is something I'm trying to create with him. 89 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: So for people that don't know who Nanny Connie is, 90 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: she's a legend, an angel, she's an angel iventioned a 91 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: baby whisper. She is, and she is a baby nurse 92 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: amed nanny. You know, I worked with her from my 93 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: with my second daughter, and a lot of it is 94 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: I had to learn how to do certain things too. 95 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: But she takes away the fear because we're not giving 96 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: a book. There's no rule book. There's also a lot 97 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: of guilt, like I had a tremendous amount of guilt 98 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: with my first daughter because I had really bad postpartum depression. 99 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: But I'm sure she tells you, I mean, you are 100 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: that baby's only mama. 101 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 102 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: I like study his face and she will constantly say 103 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 3: in the background, that's your baby, that's your baby. And 104 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: it's like, oh, you know, because it took me like 105 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: nine ten years to get him with all my trials 106 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: with IVF and so forth, and failed pregnancies and failed 107 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: circuses and so forth. So yeah, all the things. She's 108 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: an angel. She's a nurse, she's a nanny, she is 109 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 3: a therapist. She is like a bit of you know, 110 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: heaven in your living room. It's pretty amazing. 111 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: I totally identify with I mean, I went through IVF 112 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: seven times. 113 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I didn't know that you went you. 114 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: Eight, you said eight. 115 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: Nine. 116 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh god, it's just it's so heartbreaking, and it's 117 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: it's worse like my husband would see me rip off 118 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: the estrogen patches, you know, I would be bleeding and 119 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: then lost pregnancies. And and then when you really start 120 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: talking to people and you realize how common it is, 121 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, but is your h how is your schedule 122 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: going to change with the with the start of the 123 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: NFL season. 124 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: That's going to be the hard part for me. That's 125 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 3: why this month has been so good for us. And 126 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: we get home in a couple of weeks and it's 127 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: just like boom, here we go. And you know, if 128 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: I have a random, you know, athlete calling me for 129 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 3: the game I'm studying for, if we have a you 130 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: know call change for you know, we are our life 131 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 3: is based off of what the teams that were covering 132 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: schedule basically, So if we have a set schedule with 133 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: a head coach and a quarterback at nine am on 134 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: a Tuesday, but then practice didn't go right, he's injured, 135 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: we go off of them. So then we had, you know, 136 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: and so my life has to kind of change. And 137 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: then of course I travel and I go do sit 138 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: down interviews, and I'm there for the game, and I 139 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: pray the game doesn't go too long so I can 140 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: get back on my flight and get home for that night. 141 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: You know, we miss Thanksgivings, we miss Christmas, so a 142 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: lot of anxiety all wrapped into one. And it's about 143 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: to happen in four to five weeks, which is absolutely crazy. 144 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: But again, the good thing with Connie is she's been 145 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: with people like you. She's been with people that have 146 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: really hectic schedules, and she's like, baby, we'll get through it. 147 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: But you've been in sports and you've been a sideline 148 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: reporter for so many years. You've covered college football, You've 149 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: covered the NFL, and then you also covered baseball, hockey, basketball, 150 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: and even NASCAR. 151 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I did one stont on NASCAR, and it 152 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: was my biggest nightmare in the whole world, my big nightmare. 153 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: And I'm interested to know what yours is coming from 154 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: the acting world. Mine is I wake up, I'm at 155 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: a game or I'm at an event that I don't 156 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: know why I didn't prepare for, because preparation for me 157 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: is insane. It's half of the reason why I have 158 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: wrinkles or anxiety. So NASCAR, the one event. I had 159 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: just signed with Fox Sports. I'd been with ESPN for 160 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: eight years. Here she is, they're rolling her out for 161 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: their big event at Nascart's before football. I don't know 162 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: anyone like I will do my best studying. And they 163 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: had played it off. They said, no, no, no, no, no, 164 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: it's a fun walk and talk. You're just gonna go out, 165 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: you know, before the race, and you're going to talk 166 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 3: to all the drivers right before they get in their cars. 167 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I can bys with the best of them. 168 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: I had studied the people that they said we we're 169 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: going to go to all right, we're going to send 170 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: it down to the newest member of our Fox Sports family, 171 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: Aaron Andrews, her debut at NASCAR. Well, she's just going 172 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: to catch up with some of the drivers and see 173 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: what they're up to second before they go into their car. Guys, 174 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: thanks so much. I'm so thrilled to be here. It's 175 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: an honor. I'm so excited. Let's head over to that 176 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: driver's not there. Let's okay, Well they're not there, Well, 177 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,479 Speaker 3: we'll come back later. Let's head over to where danikapet everybody. 178 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: Brooke went to go pee. I had no one to 179 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: talk to. Nightmare coming true, and I was like, oh 180 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: my god, oh my god, finally fifty cent is here. 181 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 3: Fifty I mean, you know, it was horrific, awful experience. 182 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: So yes, that was my one NASCAR experience, and I 183 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 3: am mortified. Whenever I see a driver, they're like, you 184 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 3: remember that, I remember it? You know what I think 185 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: about it at three thirty in the morning with chest pains. 186 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: You know, I can't even I can't even imagine keeping 187 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: all of the information. So how do you prepare? Do you? 188 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: What's like, what's your homework? 189 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: Like? So much so and I don't even use like 190 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 3: three fourths of it right Like, I sit there with 191 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: my big binder, my big trapper keeper on the sidelines 192 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: in my arm. 193 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm holding it. 194 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: I've got all my stuff typed out ready to go. 195 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: If it rains, I get pissed off because it gets wet. 196 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: I've got my notepad. We get packets every single day, 197 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: so getting ready. In a couple of weeks, we are 198 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: going to do a preseason game, and then two weeks 199 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: after that we have Week one. So we're already now 200 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 3: getting every day packets of every single article that was 201 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: written of these teams, and when you are doing teams 202 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 3: brook that are big time markets, like your New York's, 203 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: your Philadelphia's, your Dallas. Dallas has like seven thousand writers. 204 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 3: Your pamphlet is this big and I am so anal 205 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: and probably something I need to let go and maybe 206 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: baby Mac and Connie will teach me about that. I 207 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: don't have to read every single one. But because I'm 208 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: a female, because I never played, because I never want 209 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 3: the NASCAR experience at the football game, I feel like 210 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: I have to read everything. Then during the week we 211 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 3: get on calls that are probably two hours long with 212 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: the head coach, the quarterback, the star of the defense, 213 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: the defense, which that teaches the defense. It's way more 214 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: preparation that i'll, like I said, i'll ever ever use. 215 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: But I am so like robotic that if I don't 216 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,479 Speaker 3: have that done, I feel like I will be paralyzed 217 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 3: on the field. Which probably is a great session for 218 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: doctor phil Why who. 219 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: Knows that type of preparedness that you are just describing 220 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: is so important. But you also said something that was 221 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: very striking to me. You said, because I am female, 222 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: can you delve into that a little bit more? Is 223 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: it more pressure. 224 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, I'll be honest. I'm fortunate to 225 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: have one of three four spots on a Fox, NBC, ABC, 226 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: But those spots, I mean, this is the starring role 227 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: every sideline reporter wants. You know, I'm on the A crew. Yes, 228 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: I worked my ass off to get here, but look, 229 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: I never want to forget what got me here. And 230 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 3: I think what got I know what got me here 231 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: was the chip on my shoulder. I didn't play this sport. 232 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: You know. 233 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: When I first came up in the industry, I didn't 234 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: want to be like everybody else. I didn't want to 235 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 3: wear even though now oversized blazers and baggy pants are 236 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: really in. And I was the first girl to maybe 237 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: clip in a couple of extensions, and you know, dye 238 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: my hair blonde a little bit and gave a gave 239 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: a here's one from my mom, gave a hoot about 240 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 3: what I, you know, looked like. But I also, I'm 241 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: basically like I talk like the guys, I study like 242 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: the guys, drink and eat like the guys. But yeah, 243 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: I know that I will never have the experience of 244 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: going back in the locker room and knowing how to 245 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: turn this thing around at half time. Because I'm a female. 246 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: There is more pressure, I know it on me because 247 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: I am a female. 248 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about this lately, just how 249 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: in both of our industries, really, what was always accepted 250 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: an acceptable behavior the sexualization of women and how women 251 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: were sexual life or even how they were spoken to 252 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: or about, regardless of the quality of the work. Did 253 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: you have to deal with that acutely when you first 254 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: started your career. 255 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: You know, the crazy part is everybody always thinks it 256 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: comes from an athlete or a coach or my dog's 257 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: having his breakfast by the way, Sorry, I'm trying to 258 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: mute the mic every time he's like eating the kibble. 259 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. It wasn't by athletes. 260 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: It wasn't by coaches, it wasn't by general managers, sands well, fans. Yeah, 261 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: and you know, my husband does not enjoy being on 262 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: the sidelines very much because fans are absolutely they've been marinating, 263 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: you know, since the morning. By the time they're at 264 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: their game, they are inebriated. I had to deal with 265 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: early in my career, and it's pretty interesting because it's 266 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: something that I still think fuels me. I know it, 267 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: you know, it's something that always upset in my family. 268 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: Local writers. The stuff that was written about me in 269 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: newspaper by local writers when I first came on the scene. 270 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: If I ever went back and posted some of that stuff, 271 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: it is mind blowing and wouldn't be allowed. And a 272 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: lot of it was guys saw me as coming in 273 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: with the ESPN's young girl. They saw how coaches and 274 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: athletes maybe treated me differently, or saw the attention that 275 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: they gave me, and they would voice their opinion pretty 276 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: darn quick in their articles. And this stuff now would 277 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: never be accepted. 278 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: Did you respond, did you feel the need to respond, 279 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: or did you was it? Don't honor that with a response. 280 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: I try not to honor things, but I will never forget. 281 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure you're probably the same way. Anytime anything difficult 282 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: has happened in your life, you remember who was there 283 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: and who wasn't. I'm really good at remembering what people 284 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: said there. I went through an experience, obviously it's well documented, 285 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: where I stalked and my stalker videotaped me in hotel rooms. 286 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,239 Speaker 2: I went through a huge. 287 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: Trial with it. 288 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: And I remember before when my family knew that the 289 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: FBI was investigating, we were told do not say a word. 290 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: Do not say a word, because they wanted to catch 291 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: him in the act. They didn't want him to throw 292 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: away evidence that he was keeping of all the places 293 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: that he had stalked me. 294 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: And there was a real thought. 295 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: There was a lot of people said behind the scenes 296 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: and even publicly, and I remember who they all are, 297 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: that I did this to myself for publicity. Look, it's 298 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: psycho and again things I need to let go in therapy. 299 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 3: I remember every single person that said I did it 300 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: to myself to help my career. And I've confronted some 301 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: people because some of those people are in my industry 302 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: and I see them on the sidelines and it's probably 303 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: not healthy, but they try to be nice to me 304 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: and because they see where I am now after fifteen 305 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: years later. I've had situations on the field where I'm 306 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: talking to a head coach and the head coach is like, oh, 307 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: do you know so and so, And I'm like, sure do. 308 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: He said on his radio show that I deserved this 309 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: and I did it to myself to get higher. 310 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: How are you not healthy? Not the best thing to do, but. 311 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: Now, but you know what, come on, that's if you 312 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: need that for yourself. You're you're not supposed to be superhuman. 313 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: For God. That means I have stalkers, had them, there 314 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: have been arrests made, I've been to court as well, 315 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, and you know I've had to face stalkers 316 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: and and and what happened when then you'll find this 317 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: too now as a mom, then there are certain things 318 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: that become so off limits and you will, you will 319 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: find that animal, ferocious person inside and you're and you're 320 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: not fine. But thank God that you you you reclaimed 321 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: that power and you fought it. You fought for yourself, 322 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: and in doing that as a public figure, you're not 323 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: taking it lining down. Who were the people that really 324 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: were on your side that you were? 325 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 3: Family, your family, my family, a lot of coworkers you 326 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: know also too. And then I don't know, you know 327 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: what you've You've gone through so much in your life. 328 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 3: I kind of like call that time in my life 329 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: when I was trying to cope and deal with it 330 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 3: my glazed over time. I wasn't really present, I was 331 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: just glazed over. I was like, Hi, how are because 332 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 3: I was still on television and I wanted to show 333 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 3: everybody like, you know, there hadn't been an arrest. 334 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 2: I was going through a trial. I'm fine, I'm good. 335 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: I have a kind of a mailbox, buy my emails 336 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 3: where I pushed all the supportive emails from friends, friends 337 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: back home, friends in high school, and sometimes I'll go 338 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: back and read them. But it's yeah, like there were 339 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 3: so many great people that reached out during men. 340 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: I want to pivot back to to parenthood for another minute, 341 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: just because I'm so happy for you. I'm so happy 342 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: for Mac. You got a little boy. Did you want 343 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: a boy or girl or did you have any Oh? 344 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: I definitely wanted a boy. 345 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 3: I mean he really didn't have a choice because I 346 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 3: just we didn't have much left in the frozen bank. 347 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: We had already lost two with another Saragate, and this 348 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: was he was kind of like our last good one left. 349 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 3: So yes, we definitely definitely want to. He waited, just 350 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 3: he was like, that's what everybody says. It's so funny. 351 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: My first daughter had been frozen for two years. Oh 352 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: my yeah, yeah, she was in the freezer for two years. 353 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: All the other ones didn't take or took them, and 354 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: I lost, you know, and I I was like, just 355 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: put the rest in, let's take you know. See what happens, 356 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: you know, but you know it's a very interesting thing. No, 357 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: did you because when you have because I don't know 358 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: this world. But when you interview, do you find us? 359 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: Are again? Do you get to know her? Yeah? 360 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're very lucky we were aligned. So after our 361 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: first experience where we finally decided to do Sarahgacy, it 362 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: was really hard to get to that point because it 363 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: was just like, you still have hope. 364 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: Right. 365 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 3: My husband's a former NHL player, I'm very competitive in 366 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 3: what I do. Haven't really dealt with much, I guess defeat, 367 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: not winning, not being the top of your sport, your industry. 368 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 3: So that was very hard kind of being like, we 369 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: need help, and I think, well, I know when we 370 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: decided that. On Easter of twenty twenty, when we're all 371 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: locked down. Normally we're with all our friends that have 372 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: kids to celebrate Easter and go have a good time 373 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: with them. We were all locked down and we didn't 374 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: have kids, and I just remember being like, this sucks, 375 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: like it suck to be locked down anyways, but it 376 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 3: just we what were we doing. We need to start 377 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: a family, We need to get serious about this. So 378 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: we decided then to find a saragacy group. Through loss 379 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: we had gain. We had went one direction, we lost 380 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 3: two of our embryos, but then it led us to 381 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 3: this other group and this lovely woman who runs a 382 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: I want to say company, but it's not. But it 383 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: is a company where she aligns people with sarrogates and 384 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: she became a family member. 385 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: Her name is Stephanie. 386 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: She's with family Match consulting anybody that's looking for advice 387 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 3: or maybe help with this, I highly recommend her. She 388 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: just holds your hand like you said, you didn't know anything. 389 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: We didn't know anything, and it's a difficult and it's 390 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 3: a really grueling process, especially when it doesn't work. Because 391 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: I didn't have many embryos left. My doctor was very 392 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: very strict, very thorough, very picky. 393 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: In who he chose. 394 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: We probably went through maybe I want to say, three 395 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: to five women before we landed on our girl or woman, 396 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 3: our saragate, our angel. And it consists of this in 397 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: a nutshell. You first get a profile on them, you 398 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: read all about them, you read about their life, they 399 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 3: read about you. Then both parties decide if they want 400 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: to meet. You get on a zoom, you meet them, 401 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: You meet their better half. You talk about your story, 402 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: you ball your brains out. Then you call your person 403 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: back and decide if it's a match. If it's a match, 404 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 3: then comes the contract, the legal process. 405 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: Which is all so fun. 406 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 3: Yes, so that's money that takes time. And then once 407 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: you are in agreement about all of that, you then 408 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: send her to your fertility doctor. They do thorough exams, 409 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 3: so you wait a month or so to get results 410 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 3: on that. Then if there's a match, you go. We 411 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 3: had gotten to the point with like I said, three 412 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 3: to five girls, that it came to this is a match. 413 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 3: Or my doctor was like, I just looked at her, 414 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: but I need her to be perfect because you only 415 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: have one left. And plus he to me felt so 416 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: bad that we had lost the two before and I 417 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: didn't have that many. And so finally, after all of that, gosh, 418 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 3: I think it took us probably about a year, we 419 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 3: found our girl. And then comes the process of her 420 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: going through the drugs, her going through you know, the transfer, 421 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: her waiting the ten to twelve days to see if 422 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: she's pregnant. You're pregnant. But as you know, Brooke, go 423 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: you gotta overcome some hurdles. You gotta go, you know, 424 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: so it's so growing. It feels like the longest marathon. 425 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: Did you share all this publicly? 426 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: Like? 427 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: Were you or was it? 428 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 3: I had always said when people asked after we got married, 429 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 3: when are you guys going to start a family, I'd 430 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: always said, oh, you know, we're working on it. But 431 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: I had never really been too honest with how much 432 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: we were working on it, that I was shooting up 433 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: at games, that I was, you know, going through IVF 434 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: every summer. 435 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: Did you wish you it's fuken about your fertility struggles earlier? 436 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: I think that, and it's a good not to turn 437 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: the tables. I don't know when you decided to share it. 438 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 3: I shared it after I think like the seventh or 439 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 3: eighth try, where I was just like, I'm so tired 440 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 3: of this. And I think it's like when I started 441 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: realizing these waiting rooms are packed, there are so many 442 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 3: women in here, there are so many couples in here, 443 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: and what are we doing? Why are we not talking 444 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 3: about this? So I think that's when I just got 445 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: so done with it and so tired of it. I 446 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: don't know if I wished I had, I am after 447 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: seeing all the outreach that I and support I've gotten 448 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: where women are like thank you, thank you, But for 449 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 3: some reason, people just don't talk about it. I mean, 450 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 3: what do you think with your journey? 451 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I spoke about it pretty publicly. I wasn't 452 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: ashamed of it at all. Yeah, I don't. That's just 453 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: not the way I operate, you know. I'm like, this 454 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: is my truth, this is it. I know I'm not 455 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: the only one, so that, you know, for me, I 456 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: spoke about it pretty quickly, but more so because I 457 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: had such terrible postpartums, So that was when, you know, 458 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: that was when I of course shared it. You know. 459 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: I didn't feel I mean, I didn't feel obligated. I 460 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: didn't feel like it was a responsibility. But I did 461 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: feel that we need to talk about these things to 462 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: take away the stigma. I'm no less a female, I'm 463 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: no less a mother. I think it's important, and I 464 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: think sharing the story. I don't think it is an obligation. 465 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it's because of a public figure. I don't 466 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: believe that you are obligated to share your entire life 467 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: with people. For me, it's cathartic because then I own 468 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: my narrative and I feel that you have that strength 469 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: as well. Do you keep reclaiming your narrative? What are 470 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: some of the things about your life that you cannot 471 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: wait to share with mac. 472 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 2: Or frightened? Just I don't know. 473 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: I think, do you want them to play sports? Like 474 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: that's such a weird like as a mom, do you 475 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: want them to play sports? Yeah? 476 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 2: I do. 477 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 3: I mean the other day, a preseason game was on 478 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: and I was on the couch and holding him and 479 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: feeding him, and I just looked. 480 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 2: At my husband. I was like, do you know how 481 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: long I've been waiting for this? 482 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 3: Like I can't wait for in our house, it's always 483 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 3: either the NFL network or the NHL network. And you know, 484 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 3: I can't wait for him to go to the ring 485 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: for the first time with his dad. I can't wait 486 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 3: for him to put his first skates on. I can't 487 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: wait to take him to a football field, not so 488 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 3: much a game, but just to run around on the 489 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 3: grass and see where Mommy's office is. I think that'll 490 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: be really cool. I can't wait till him and my 491 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: dog finally connect. My Golden retriever was having a really 492 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: hard time just because he's not feeding him. He's not 493 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 3: like you know, Max's just worried about. What's he worried 494 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 3: about right now? The pacifier and maybe you know the bottle. 495 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 3: But yeah, until mac has a treat in his hand, howie, 496 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: my dog will not care. 497 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: But the dog's got to adjust too. I mean, the 498 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: dog has ten six years all to himself. And now 499 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: mom is a little bay tracked, and now it's gonna 500 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: take a while. And then once he becomes once Max's 501 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: not really a person yet, he's like a little and 502 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: then once like my U, we had a big, big 503 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: dog and at the time and dog always slept in 504 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: our room. And then once the baby got to be 505 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: a certain age, she just started sleeping outside of the 506 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: baby's room and didn't never came back up to be 507 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: with us, just stayed literally stayed in my daughter's room. Again, 508 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: I should call this show now What because it is 509 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: about those unexpected, like massively unexpected moments. Do you have 510 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: a most significant now what moment? 511 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: Wait? Give me an example? Can you give me an example? 512 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: I mean mine? 513 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: Now what was my biggest now what was probably having 514 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: postpartum yea, getting my own television show like it was 515 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: so positive. But I had to do it, you know, 516 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: I had to. I had to show up, really show up. 517 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: Getting into college that was a now what moment? It 518 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: can be any it can be, Mac. 519 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 3: I mean it is, and it's because of how much 520 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: you know it kind of not that it was my narrative, 521 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: but it's been my life for so long. I you know, 522 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: I think I said to my husband this summer, do 523 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 3: you realize this is the first summer since we've met, 524 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 3: I haven't been doing IVF. I mean, I you going 525 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: on a trip and not having to schedule the trip 526 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 3: when you're going to have your period, when you think 527 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: you're going to have to go get an ultrasound, like 528 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: your whole thing is, you know, based on your reproductive system, 529 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 3: and it sucks. Yeah, Mac, I you know my career, 530 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 3: I would say, finally, you know, being a part of 531 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 3: a big football broadcasting crew something I've worked so hard for. 532 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: I know, you know, like you talked about with your 533 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: experiences in life, mine obviously stalking, might obviously lost with 534 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: pregnancy and so forth. Be interesting to see what's now? 535 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 3: Aren't you curious about that? Now that you've done what 536 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: you've done with the television show, you came out about postpartum, Like, 537 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: what's the next one? 538 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: I think you just finding them. You know, I started 539 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: my own company and it's all based around new beginnings. 540 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: It's called Comments, and it's for women over forty and 541 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: it's and it's really it's my next sort of platform. 542 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: I just want to sort of finish with your clothing line, 543 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: because I mean it's called where by Aaron Andrews, and 544 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: I love it because I think for years, Game day 545 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: clothing for women was either cropped or sparkly, or super 546 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: sexualized and not chic or the flip side sort of 547 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: way to mail. Right, what made you want to create 548 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: the line? Like, I can't believe it hasn't been done, 549 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: and I'm so glad you did it. 550 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's all those things that you mentioned. You know, 551 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: I'm very much kind of like a basic Betty Tomboy 552 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: kind of in my dress. Like I love an oversized blazer, 553 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: I love a you know, a comfy V neck. I 554 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: love a bomber jacket. All the things that we wanted 555 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: to kind of make for women to be able to 556 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: support their team wait for it anywhere and everywhere. I 557 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: just I've been a sports fan my whole life, and 558 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: I kind of just had a hard time figuring out 559 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: what I was going to wear to games. I like, 560 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: you know, cheering for my team during the week, but 561 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 3: I don't need it like puked up you know on 562 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: my chest that I am. 563 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna have plenty of one. 564 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: I already did. 565 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: Last yesterday, we really got into the projectile point of 566 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: the show and it was crazy. Anyways, So yeah, I like, 567 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 3: you know, I a huge fan of my husband's team. 568 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: I like to dress that support, you know, the Los 569 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: Angeles Kings, the Boston Red Sox, the Boston Celtics, the 570 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: Florida Gators where I went to school. 571 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: Not I vas NASCAR, baby. 572 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, so I just I felt like there needed 573 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: to There was such a huge white space as you mentioned, 574 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: and I listen, we are still trying to knock doors down. Girl, 575 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: I cannot wait to have a compis by it. 576 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: I love you for that. 577 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: Fanatics dot com where by EA dot com. It's in 578 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: pretty much all the arenas and stadiums if you're heading 579 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: out to an NFL game. But yeah, check us out. 580 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 3: It's definitely been a labor of love. I didn't go 581 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 3: to school for this. I'm learning so much. It's incredible 582 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 3: the even now to this day, how many doors still 583 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: get slammed in your face. 584 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: With you having success, Oh yeah, oh it and it 585 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: never ends. But you know you've you've you've done it, 586 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: and you're learning more and more and more and more. 587 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: And isn't that great to be at this stage and 588 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: to keep keep broadening your mind and your and your 589 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: bag of tricks. So I think everything you're doing is wonderful. 590 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: I lovely best, best, best of times as a mom, 591 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: and you just savor, savor that little baby head. Smell 592 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: tell Nanny Connie, I say hi, and give him back 593 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: a kiss from me. 594 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: Oh you will. 595 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: That was Aaron Andrews. To hear more about what's going 596 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: on in her world, go listen to her podcast Calm 597 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: Down on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your shows. 598 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: As for me, I'm taking a few weeks off to 599 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: perform a one woman show. I have been writing it 600 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: and rehearsing it for months. It's scary, in fact, it's terrifying, 601 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: but it's also exciting. It's a gift and I can't 602 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: wait to tell you all about it in the meantime. 603 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: Stay safe, be kind, Thank you for listening. Now. What 604 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: with Brooke Shields is a production of iHeartRadio Our lead 605 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: producer and wonderful showrunner is Julia Weaver. Additional research and 606 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: editing by Darby Masters and Abu Zafar. Our executive producer 607 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: is Christina Everett. The show is mixed by Vahid Fraser.