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Speaker 1: On the Bedel Cast, the questions asked if movies have

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Speaker 1: changing it with the Bechdel Cast. Hello, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Bechtel Cast. My name is Caitlin Darante Jamie Loftus,

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Speaker 1: and we're here to talk about the portrayal of women

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Speaker 1: in movie because that's what our podcast is about. Is

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Speaker 1: what our podcast is about. Yeah, we've been doing it

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Speaker 1: for a little while. Yeah, we're we're freaking veterans at

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Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, that's scary. I looked at right now.

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Speaker 1: As of this recording, we have sixty nine episodes. App Hell,

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Speaker 1: yeah that's sexy. Right, that's so, that's good. That's very

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Speaker 1: If I was in middle school, I'd be pissing myself

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Speaker 1: clenching and being like, that's kind of funny. Just sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we talk about women in movies, we use the

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Speaker 1: Bechtel test is just a jumping off point for a

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Speaker 1: larger conversation. Hey, with Bectel test is a test you

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Speaker 1: applied to media. It requires that the movie let's say

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Speaker 1: you're watching, has two female characters. They must have names,

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Speaker 1: they must talk to each other, and the conversation has

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Speaker 1: to be about anything other than a man. Our version

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Speaker 1: of is a two line of dialogue exchange. So can

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Speaker 1: we demo it? I'd love to. Hey, Caitlin, was the

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Speaker 1: vital test? I'm stupid, Jamie, You're not stupid. But the

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Speaker 1: bectal test is when women talk to each other in

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Speaker 1: movies about stuff that's not a man. Okay, but oops,

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Speaker 1: we just mentioned a man. So did that. It's when

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Speaker 1: movies have women who talk about I love the movie doubt. Okay, done?

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Speaker 1: Did it? We did it. The best thing about the

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Speaker 1: batal test is that it does not have to be

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Speaker 1: well written. It just has to clear a bar, which

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Speaker 1: if you've been listening to the podcast for a while,

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Speaker 1: you'll find, uh, is is something that's freely taken advantage of.

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Speaker 1: Definitely not in this particular movie we're talking about today,

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Speaker 1: which is very well written. Right, I'm so excited. I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited. This has been a big listener requests. Our

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Speaker 1: this episode, so we're we're excited to be doing that.

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Speaker 1: So you're welcome everybody. Jesus So without much further ado, Oh,

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Speaker 1: we're about to make Bechtel cast history because we have

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Speaker 1: not one to guests who guests, a double guests. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: more bodies, more voices. It's going to be terrific. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait because these are both such wonderful people. We've

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Speaker 1: I not famously but irresponsibly never showed up for this.

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Speaker 1: Didn't show up. It's all right, we forgive you. You You

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Speaker 1: might remember this from me when Harry met Sally episode

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Speaker 1: and so he was dowd. I'm sorry, okay, but you

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Speaker 1: already know her. She's a comedian. You've seen her on

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Speaker 1: two Dope Queens, Naomi a comparagon, Hey come back, and

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Speaker 1: our other guest he's written for at Midnight. He has

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Speaker 1: a podcast coming out soon called Nerdificent if e wad way,

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Speaker 1: what do I thought you were going to say make

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Speaker 1: was like, you got back, but we're going to post

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Speaker 1: black panther society. Where's it's very advanced. You know you

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Speaker 1: have more Black people than of Comedy podcast and so

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Speaker 1: shout out to y'all. We did it. So the movie

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Speaker 1: just came out. Nami, you've seen it once. I mean

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Speaker 1: it three times. My god, Wait, we've got eleven viewings

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Speaker 1: oh yeah. I was just like, oh, there he is.

422
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: That's and I love when he has this little humor

423
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: moments like that has been my feed for like since

424
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: the movie is released. Was like, if you got to

425
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: do imbakulas cops, like if you got like every day

426
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: someone's been like, if you got to be Umbaku and

427
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: it was like, look, my Beard game is not good

428
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: at all, Like I'm sorry to break it to you off,

429
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: so I'm have to get Beijing all over my flight.

430
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: It was so funny to see the black Beard game.

431
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, a couple of homies were a low patchy

432
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: up there and I was like, honestly, appreciate your bravery.

433
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: But I was like, please speak truth. Okay, don't be

434
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: feeling that it in show the reality. Okay, a newbian beer.

435
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: I was very there for the past okay is beautiful.

436
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: I'm sweating again. Soul hasn't gotten past. So there's a

437
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: subplot where to Chaka and his brother steranth Kay Brown's

438
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: character and Joe Bu he betrays than I'm um, it's

439
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: like a Caucasian nightmare. So many African names to say

440
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: in succession. So um. So he betrays the then king

441
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: and uh he gets murdered for it. Later on we

442
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: find out, but he has a son who is a

443
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: kid in this and grows up to be Eric kill Younger,

444
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: the main villain of the movie, and he comes back

445
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: first he kills Claw. He seems to be working with

446
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: him and I'm like, what's this all about? Because helps

447
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: him steal some vibranium from this museum and we're just like,

448
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: what's going on? What's happening here? But then he kills

449
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: Claw and he takes him back to Wakonda basically to

450
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: use his leverage and be like, hey, I'm one of you.

451
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm Condon. I want to be your king, and they're

452
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: like what who are you? And he's like, I'm the

453
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: son of Joe Bu and I'm fucking like, let me

454
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: do the Hey, it's the greatest lot of any fucking movie.

455
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: Just just to clear up the leverage part. So what Coabi?

456
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: Who is ta Challa's confidant. His parents were killed in

457
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: the attack that we're claws sto the vibranium, so he

458
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: when he went on the mission to capture Claw, he

459
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: didn't get it, and what Cobby is pissed. But then

460
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: Michael B brings him Claw's body, So now what copies like,

461
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: uh to ta is my old friend, my new best

462
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: friend is. So he comes in, brings him in and

463
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: once again another SoundBite from from this scene, everyone's like,

464
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: everyone's like, who is this guy? Who is this guy?

465
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: So just so you know, the tension building, and then

466
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan's asked to Challa to say his name

467
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, I won't. And then one of

468
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: the river tribe do with the huge disc was like

469
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: who are you and he was like, I'm in d

470
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: Jacob new Toby. Not my daddy would pay the marks

471
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: in his chest. I'm here to enact my birthright for

472
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 1: a seat at the throne. The music is picking up.

473
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: It's like like dabbing in the thing. That moment was incredible.

474
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: It was so literally, hey, Auntie is the greatest line movie.

475
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: And it was just like, I don't know, it was

476
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: just brilliant. I think he just did such a did

477
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: such a great job of straddling both those worlds as

478
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: that person and then kind of wanting to be the

479
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: Wakundan king. But it was just the use of music

480
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: in this movie is like killer too, because with a

481
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: lot of superhero movies, I feel like it gets kind

482
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: of lazy or just like a slow swell of strings

483
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: when someone saying something. But this is like, it's like

484
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: exciting in it the whole time. Quick Cyber. It is

485
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: Ludwig Grandson who does the score, who you may know

486
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: from Community and Happy Endings or creed Uh New Girl

487
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: and Childish Gambino. He did Redbone. Uh yeah, yeah, he

488
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: did Redbone and he also did some stuff with Haim too.

489
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: So I've listened to the score. I'm like a scorehead,

490
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: like my before this my favorite yeah, before this, My

491
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: favorite scores were Interstellar, and I actually liked the end

492
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: of tour like very like ambient cute score. This one.

493
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: I've never heard of score like this in my life

494
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: because he uses bass like rappers use bass, which is

495
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: too much but just enough, you know, And it is

496
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: like that same kind of like very uplifting, very traditional score,

497
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: but mixed in with hip hop beats and African drums, flutes, chance,

498
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: and it's like it's really is like nothing you've never heard.

499
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: If he doesn't win Oscars for this score, your boy

500
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be like he was two seconds before we

501
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: found out it was actually Moonlight. Oh my god, I

502
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: was lost, cousin. Okay, so I'm almost done. So we

503
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: got yes. So Eric Hillmonger challenges to Challa for the throne.

504
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: They have their sort of ritualistic combat thing. To Challa

505
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: appears to have been defeated. We think that he dies terrifying,

506
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: and I just want to point out this fun fact.

507
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: So in this scene when he dies. This actually isn't

508
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: a fun fact about the story, but the fun fact

509
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: of my second viewing experience. I was with this white

510
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: lady next to me who was watching it as if

511
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: she was possessed by a black person. It was like

512
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: watching a movie with my mom. Seriously, But in that

513
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: scene where he throws him off the waterfall and he dies,

514
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: she leans over to me and goes, I don't think

515
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: he's dead. You think like they didn't kill the protector.

516
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: She was so confident. That's cute. So he dies, we

517
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: assume kill Munger takes over the throne. He's like, we're

518
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 1: going to send out We're basically gonna incite war all

519
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: over the world and give vibranium to weapons, specifically the

520
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: vibranium weapons for the weapons to black people over the world,

521
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: basically so that they can fight their oppressors. And everyone's like,

522
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: actually that doesn't really sound like that great any idea?

523
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: And then Nikia the Queen and sure we all are like, hey,

524
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: we should go to Umbaku and be like maybe you

525
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: should be the new black pants there and he's like,

526
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: actually I found your old one right there. And so

527
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: child comes back, saves the day, there's this huge epic

528
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: battle at the end. All that Len in the movie

529
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: Theater is right. Part of how he's able to come

530
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: back is because so when Michael b becomes king, of

531
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: course the person he does is destroy the purple herb

532
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: that can give the man the power of the Black Panther. Now,

533
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: because you know, Lupeta is straight up spying on it. Okay,

534
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: come into a damn hole in the wall. She give

535
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: herself a little damn herb that is like for the road.

536
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: When you find black Panther, the true Black Panther, they're

537
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: able to grind up that herb that she stole. You know,

538
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: he's in the last of it basically, um and then,

539
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: which makes me really worried for a Wakonda. So after

540
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: this movie it's gone, we'll see. That's what was so

541
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: curious to me, because like in comic book lore, because

542
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: they and they touch on it, the spirit of the

543
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: Black Panther, it is a spirit that abuse you. So

544
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to introduce because in the

545
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: comics the way sure he was, because sure in the

546
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: comics eventually becomes a Black Panther and she takes over

547
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: and becomes the queen. And then but black Panthers still

548
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: Black panther in but all around the world. And the

549
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 1: way it exists is because the spirit Black Panther abuses

550
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: Sherry with like the spirit of life and che Challah

551
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: the spirit of death. It's very cool. It's way cool.

552
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: And I do like the idea of Surrey becoming queen,

553
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: like I that I hope that happens. But just for

554
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: another sound bite, you know this when he takes when

555
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: he takes the herb, you know, he goes to the

556
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: planes of the Ancestors and he sees his dad and

557
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: his dad's like his dad's way too chill with his son,

558
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: just being murked, like he's like, come on, it's time

559
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: to come back, come hang with us now. And then

560
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: he shakes and this is all in uh what Condon,

561
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: which is actually Josha. Uh yeah, this is an actual

562
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: language Yea from South Africa. So that's why I fun fact,

563
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: even though this was very likely mentioned the casino scene,

564
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: Remember when she's like stand down and like the dudes's

565
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: like hey, it wasn't because she was loud, it was

566
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: because that guy was South African. And I saw that

567
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: because there's a scene breakdown that Coogler does, but we

568
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: can talk about that takes inside. Oh yeah, no, we're

569
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: going to get deepen. But so he goes and he

570
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: sees his father and he's like why why He was like,

571
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: we had to do what we did to protect but

572
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: he he was a child walking behind. I have to

573
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: go back and stop a monster of our own making,

574
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: just stopping. I can't come back. And then he comes

575
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: back like Jesus, oh god. I was like I was there, God,

576
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: I didn't. You guys got Chadwick for this. That's that's

577
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: an impressive recall for three times that I expect. No

578
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: less a quote. I got a bad memory. I could

579
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: I could go and just be like, well this movie

580
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: is pretty good. Okay, so we're I think, I think yeah.

581
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: And he comes back and he kills Michael Bright on

582
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: an actual underground round so we gotta give our laugh

583
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: last sound bite. So he kills them with a cool move.

584
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: They they're fighting down you find out that they have

585
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: the underground round roads, yo, and you know that probably

586
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: was on you know. So they're fighting on this underground

587
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: railroad where they turned down vibranium so that they deactivated

588
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: so that they can transfer it at the speeds that

589
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: the trains move at, so when they do it, they

590
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: basically turn off all their protection. So they're fighting. They're

591
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: going in there having the whole monologue to child does

592
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: this kick ass move where he knocks the blade up

593
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: and he stabs him in the chest, and then he's

594
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: like wheezing because he said knife. My dad told me

595
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: what kind of has the best sunsets? He told me,

596
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: bring me here someday. You believe that a kid from

597
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: Oakland believing in fairy tales. And at this point in

598
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: the theater, I'm like, and then he takes him up

599
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: to see the sunset and he's like, it's beautiful. We're dead.

600
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: We're in it just tears everywhere. You're sniffle city. And

601
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: then he's like, he's like, there's probably time to save you.

602
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: He's like, nah, just bury me in the oceans, because

603
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: my ancestors knew that death was a better faith than bondage.

604
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: And he pulls out It's like this low draw drawn.

605
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I was waiting for a slave ship

606
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: reference and the bed day came at the end. You know,

607
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: in a way it was unexpected by that point. By

608
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: time I heard it, I said, wow, Wow, you caught

609
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: me off card for um and it was so perfectly timed. Yes,

610
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: Sniffles City City, That's what it was. Yeah, one way

611
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: ticket to Sniffles. I don't want to come back. I

612
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: don't want to come back. Room and final tenious recap

613
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: and then what kind of opens basically opens its borders,

614
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: reveals themselves to the u N and they opened in

615
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: Oakland where his father killed his uncle. He turns he's

616
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: going to turn into a will kind of outreach center

617
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: and sure he's gonna head it up with Nikia. And

618
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: it's a very beautiful scene where kids called the what

619
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: kind of spaceship a spaceship? Bugatti? When I was in

620
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: a black theater killed mostly white theater, did not get it,

621
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: but I still thought that was still like a little bit.

622
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I get it. You went people

623
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: that you have stuff. I don't think you should lend

624
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: your spaceship, Okay, I think you keep spaceship to yourself, honestly,

625
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: purposely the whole time, the whole time. Let him know

626
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: you got a little bit of a little metal, but

627
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: never let me space ship. You can never let them

628
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: know you've got a spaceship. But you know, it was

629
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: put yourself out there. I don't know, I don't know.

630
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm such a good movie. Yes, Okay, So before I

631
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: saw this movie, I didn't know anything about the comic books,

632
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: wasn't familiar with the story, so I was not expecting

633
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: this movie to do so well in terms of its

634
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: portrayal of women. Well, because we don't expect superhero movies

635
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: to do well with women ever. Right, I don't know

636
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: about how black people do, okay, but we have no

637
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: choice because our culture has killed and or incarcerated so

638
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: many men that black women are in control of the

639
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: home lives for so many people anyway, So if you

640
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: tell most black stories, it's gonna be a woman kind

641
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: of running things to some capacities. And then when they

642
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: went the African route, you know what I mean, because

643
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: they were based on real I don't know what the

644
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: tribe was. The yeah, like an actual yea that they

645
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: are part of the comics. But also like Coogler himself

646
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: has been very so I guess I'll like go more

647
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: into the part where I saw Coogler talk, which it

648
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: was the first time I've seen Coogler talk. When was

649
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: this before the movie Meet? No this was and he

650
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: does a Vanity Fair scene breakdown, and he breaks down

651
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: the casino fight scene and uh yeah, and oh god,

652
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: I'm having my god. Uh yeah, I got a year

653
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: to make my better panther, So don't worry y'all. But yeah,

654
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: And what's what I love about Coogler is he doesn't

655
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: code switch. He is the most Oakland sounding dude ever.

656
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: He was like so when this breakdown, He's like, all right,

657
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: So like I had it with a spear right here,

658
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: and it's like but like, you know, he's very intelligent,

659
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: and it was cool to scroll down the YouTube comments

660
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: and everybody like, this guy's a genius because it's like, wow,

661
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: we can speak how we speak and don't feel the

662
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: need to wide it up. You know, me and Naomi,

663
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: we just do we sound like this at all times.

664
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: I grew up in Compton and was constantly asked why

665
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: I talked it. It's because my father's people were colonized

666
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: by the British. He has he knows no other way

667
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: to teach me, but he very much like I was

668
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: doing the Second Team podcast with Cody Ziegler, who saw

669
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: his student film that he did where it was called

670
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: I Think the cut or the hair cut, and it's

671
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: about this man with dreads and he's walking to the

672
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: barbershop and he's like seeing all these other black men

673
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: with dreads and they're dapping each other up. And he

674
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: goes and he sits down, he cuts his hair, and

675
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: then the reveal at the end is that he cuts

676
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: his hair because his little sister has cancer and got

677
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: chemo and he's doing it to match her. And he

678
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: was talking about how like within that he's exploring like

679
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: your blackness being attached to your hair and all this,

680
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: but also like the uplifting and supporting women within that

681
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: like story. And I feel like Googler has always kind

682
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: of had a mind to do that and just and

683
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: I feel like this movie, I mean, y'all will tell

684
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: me better than I would know. He really went all

685
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: out because but I'm gonna let you'll do the y'all thing. Yeah, honestly,

686
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: that's really brave of you as a man back and

687
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: we're ready to look like I'm just trying to be

688
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: more like Agent Ross and he to take his cues from. Honestly,

689
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: didn't you feel like I thought the best thing I

690
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: thought Martin Freeman's caucasity was utilized to great effect because

691
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was great to make effect. It wasn't

692
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: too heavy handed. We didn't have this moment where it

693
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: was like I'm not African garbs now you know what

694
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: I mean? He never did that thing. Yeah. I had

695
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: one family member on Facebook where it was like, well

696
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: I love the movie except for the white Savior. They

697
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: had to have it. But I was like, okay, honey,

698
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: they pretty much gave him a task to do. The

699
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: black girl walked him through it. You know what wasn't

700
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: like I literally had the same conversation with someone today

701
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: where he's like, I still find he was kind of

702
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: white Savior. So I was like, how everything he did

703
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: he was commanded to do it himself. He literally was

704
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: begging for advice from a black like the whole time,

705
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: like I I don't know what to do. And that's

706
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: I think is the beauty of it. Is like him

707
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: being like I I don't tell me, tell me please,

708
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: and sure he while in the middle of a fight,

709
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: is walking. Yeah, she's she's multitasking. Yeah. One of the

710
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: first things I wanted to say, so all of to

711
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: Challa's warriors are women. They are bald women, so that

712
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: passes the loftest test yes, baldest women in charge, um,

713
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: baldest woman in charge. Yeah. So the people that he's

714
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: relying on to protect him, his life is in their

715
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: hands are all women. We never see that sort of

716
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: thing where like the warriors are women. I was like,

717
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: holy sh it, that's sucking. And they're not like repeatedly

718
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: asked too, as I feel like they kind of often

719
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: are in action movies asked to prove themselves, like we

720
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: meet them. They're very capable, they know exactly what then

721
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: they're doing, and it's never called into question where I

722
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of movies ask its female protagonists

723
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: to prove themselves to the male protagonist before they can

724
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: start doing stuff. So that was like, yeah, it seems

725
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: that to Challa and pretty much all the men in

726
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: the entire country like respect all when like it, well,

727
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: contest seems like it's like a gender equality utopia. That

728
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: was the most magical thing about it. The Vibranium was like, Wow,

729
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: sisters doing it for them sales, Yeah, feminist icon Wakonda

730
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: is what's happening? Half of the tribal elders or women, um,

731
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: at least half of Challa's closest advisers or women, because

732
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: he's got Nikia a Koya and Shari, and they's also

733
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: got a few others like um Wa, Kabi and Zori.

734
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: But like so many of the scenes in this movie

735
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: are him and like two or three women just fighting

736
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: and kicking asked and like getting the job done. Yeah,

737
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: you never see that's usually the opposite. It's like a

738
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: ton of men and maybe a woman and often not

739
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: even a single woman. Yeah, like maybe one woman who

740
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: has to prove herself and make out with someone by

741
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: the end. Or it's like when she does have a skill,

742
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: if she's not obviously the superhero, like Scarlett Johansson's character

743
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: of her name, but if it is a woman who

744
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: like suddenly she kicks someone and is able to say,

745
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: but you know, it's a surprising moments like I did

746
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: know I could do that. You know you could do that?

747
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: You know like that it's used for that, and I

748
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: felt like I'm sorry. Then the male protectonst is like, yeah,

749
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: that's because you're near my hard dick. Like that being

750
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: near my hard dick made you suddenly capable. Oh my gosh.

751
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: But what I was going to say is I feel

752
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: like Coogler also made a real good point to say, like,

753
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: these women are just as capable, Like if we look

754
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: at the Korean chase scene, Black Panther was on the

755
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: car and then who else but o Koy. She gets

756
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: on the car now and she's sucking just as lost

757
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: my mind. Literally, I was holding hands with my betrothed

758
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: and whenever Denied Gera did anything, I would squeeze his hand.

759
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: I was I was overcome. I had sexuality and power

760
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: to release. But we were in a public space. She

761
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling you on the fucking Temperent car Spirit through

762
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: the Hood, red Dress flying, I was dead. And you

763
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: know I said this before we started. It's like, literally,

764
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: denied Garera she had to put in her eight years

765
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: as macheone, okay to get hers. And I was like,

766
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean even when she was show and she was amazing,

767
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: but I was like, oh, yeah, you've been like killing

768
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: people with a spear for eight years, so now you

769
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: get to do it for Marvel. And it was just

770
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: like so she didn't have to wear them, the locks,

771
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: them that wig. It was like girl like she just

772
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: was working free and killing them. Oh my god. And

773
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: when she threw her wig, he was very empowering and

774
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: spoke to me as a black woman. Honestly, by the end,

775
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: when I was done, I was like, I gotta grow

776
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: my hair out. Okay, go back to natural hair. Do

777
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: the bar method. Connect with my strange African father. Those

778
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: are the things I took away from that movie. So

779
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: fun facts about the casino scenes. Since we're talking about

780
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: wig Wig throw was in the first draft and he

781
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: was like, we kept it the whole time. We loved it.

782
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: That was our favorite thing. So also he said that

783
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: in that fight scene he wanted to play with femininity

784
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: versus uh, you know, functionality or something. He's a way

785
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: smart thing that he says that I'm sucking up. But

786
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: also here's some cool fun facts about it. About the

787
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: color theory in that scene, so Didni Grera's wearing red,

788
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: Luepete is wearing green and black, Panthers wearing black. That

789
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: was on purpose because that's the Pan African flag. Cloud's

790
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: wearing blue because that's the color of colonization of the

791
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: colonizer that he said, Who's wearing blue throughout the whole movie?

792
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: Our boy Michael B. Jordan's um the action scene where

793
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: she's spinning the spear around her neck to fight those guys.

794
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: That wasn't a stunt double that was actually denied um

795
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: And but yeah, he wanted to play with the idea

796
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: of using like you know, lethal femininity, which is why

797
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: he specifically wanted the part where Lupete that takes her

798
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: heel off and hits the guy and so like he

799
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: really and he said, like you know when that guy

800
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: grabs her and she like kicks his as he said,

801
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: he wants to explore that because you know, the unwanted

802
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: touch and like really defending yourself, especially in what kind

803
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: of where like you know, that ship doesn't like fly.

804
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 1: So he was very like to hear him talk about

805
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: it and be very conscious about like just like he yeah,

806
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't just like, oh, we're just gonna have females

807
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: kicking ass, you know, just like dudes. We're just gonna

808
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: put you know, just replace a dude character making a female.

809
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: He very he was very conscious about like what it means,

810
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: the message and how it looked. That's awesome. One. Where

811
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: do you find the time to get smart? I know,

812
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: let us know went to sack and then he went

813
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: to grad school in usc Oh. Does he have a

814
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: master's degree. Like a certain someone we know who does

815
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: have a master's degree in screen writing from Boston with

816
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: your exact birthday, my exact birthday and social because you're

817
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: because might be the same age, all right, because you're

818
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: sev he's made are born the same week. I'm older

819
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: than him by what six days? Wow, I have to

820
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: pass away. I always get so excited when someone's born

821
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: within a few days. I'm like, nothing, I contacted someone,

822
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: when when's your birthday? My birthday is August and like, contact,

823
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to tell me this ship Before I got here,

824
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: one of the girls from the School of Rock was

825
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: born on the same exact day as me, and we're

826
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: like and I like contacted her. I was like, I

827
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: have to find you. We were born under the same moon.

828
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: I got really into it. It's a good way to

829
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: start any email. Yeah, okay, So the next thing I

830
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: want to say is that, um, all of the main

831
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: characters who are women in this movie are given an

832
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 1: incredible skill set. So we've got Sure is a woman

833
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: in Stem Black Women. She is the designer of all

834
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: of Black Panthers like technology, and it seems like most

835
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: of the technology in the entire city like she's like

836
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: a head engineer. Here's a question though she's supposed to

837
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: be a child prodigy R because she literally I know

838
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: and realized she's two. She looks fifteen. I think she's

839
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: she's supposed to be like like a TV. I think

840
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: she's supposed to be like fifteen or sixteen. A teen genius.

841
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: She registered to me is like early twenties US, it

842
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: says on the official phase sixteen Ohio, Okaya. I love

843
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: their relationship, her brother sister relationship. It's nice, I hear.

844
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: Chadwick knew right away she was the one. As soon

845
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: as they met. She was like doing little sister roasts

846
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: and he was like, this is the one that was

847
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: the one that was like wow, So that's Sherry that

848
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 1: we've got. Nikia. She is a spy like an intern

849
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: and a competent fighter. He's very good at fighting. Does

850
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: not want to be queen. She's like, I have a calling, okay,

851
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: like you cute and all I got you to do

852
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: exactly that's back. That's eight plus plus for sure. Like

853
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: she the fact that she's given a desire beyond just

854
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: like wanting to be with Techalla is like we never

855
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: see that in superhero movies, right, and and I mean

856
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: just like based on how women are portrayed in media

857
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: in general, where you're you know, it's like you're aspiring

858
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: to the princess while you're aspiring to be royalty all

859
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: the time. To see someone reject that and be like, actually,

860
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: I have this thing that I'm really good at that

861
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: I want to be doing like that, that is huge totally.

862
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: It's like you're rejecting the first thing you're taught as

863
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: a little kid of like, yeah, you want to be

864
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: a princess probably right, yeah right. And she's like, no, thanks,

865
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: I gotta go fix the world. And she's like, okay, okay,

866
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: what about if I helped you fix the world? Compromise

867
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: for her? He was like please please um. And then

868
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 1: Nkoya she's the general of Tachill's army and she's someone says,

869
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: the greatest warrior in all of Wakonda. Like she So

870
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: these like three completely badass women who are given agency

871
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: and skills and desires that relate to the male hero,

872
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: but they are their own women. They exist outside of

873
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: the male characters. Yeah, for their own journeys. I thought

874
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: the only the only part of it. And you tell

875
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: me like, was I could have used and I'm sure

876
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: just got cut even we did not feel long they

877
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: could have put it back in. I wanted to see

878
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: what Hobby and a Koya together because you hear them

879
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: say like my love twice, but you don't actually like

880
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: see that relationship. And again I appreciate the fact that

881
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: we did not see a kids until the very end

882
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: of that movie, and we were letting romance run things,

883
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: but I think it would have had it would have

884
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: helped it even be more impactful, just to because she

885
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: is this warrior person, what would that have looked like

886
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: for her in a romantic setting? Like what if in

887
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: any way does she let her bald hair down? You

888
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like how did that look if

889
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: that happened? You know? I just would love to see

890
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: that second So that then too when she did, because

891
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: I thought too because like you hear him say it,

892
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: and at that moment at the end, I was like,

893
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Bechdel hello, he was like would

894
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: you kill me? She was like yeah, bitch, I was

895
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: that is accurately. I just looked at that as because

896
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: remember this movie was the original cut was four hours long,

897
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: so so I'm like all right, that's part of the

898
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: hour that was cut. Okay, oh my gosh, extended version.

899
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna see that twenty times. But it was

900
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: still under like it was still like two tens or something.

901
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: Was thinking. I was because I supposed to meet someone.

902
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm not going to get out

903
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: for like two hours and forty five minutes. And then

904
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: I was done in like two with previews, so I

905
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: was like, oh, wow, this is very streamlined and still

906
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: had all the turns it had right for Michael b

907
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: coming in and fighting him and then taking over the

908
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: getting unseen it, and and it was still like right

909
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: and tight. And I said, well, then no other movie

910
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: has any excuse give me, give me that director's cut.

911
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: Because also I like, I'm surprised that the stuff Disney

912
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: let fly, like when he was like all people come

913
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: from here, aren't they? All your people are like, oh

914
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: this is fucking everybody from Africa fac. I thought that

915
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: would definitely be cut out. It was way blacker than

916
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: I thought. Yeah. I really was like, wow, they did this,

917
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: did this okay, excessive shoulder shape. Also what was cool too,

918
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: is like you know they they and I'm sure pretty

919
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: sure they couldn't do it because of the PG. Thirteen level.

920
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: But having Cloud say savages versus niggers, because you knew

921
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: he meant it like that. Every time he said he

922
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: was like that savages. But the apartment was like, you

923
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: need to be off that hard heart for me to

924
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: really feel. This is what you're trying to give me

925
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: to feel. Really, I thought the savages it was that

926
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: like old school colonial, this is why we deserve to

927
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: take this. That's a nice see. That was part of

928
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: my Tarantino. I was like, oh man, they should say

929
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: a nigger and Morphet Morpheet have not enough feet? Can

930
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: I see? Okay his feet? I need to see how

931
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: Coheat's feet. For the love of God, more feet. I

932
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: mean that has been the main criticism Black Panther, not

933
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: that one Rotten Tomatoes reveal where in Africa we know

934
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: they don't wear shoes. Were on the feet? Wait, we

935
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: do see Tolla's feet though he has Yeah, by the way,

936
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: that was the only kind of like my nigga, you

937
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: got African feet, like those were the most African feet.

938
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh am, I looking at my dad's

939
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: feet off. I mean between the beard work and the feet,

940
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: I said, this is a true story, is a documentary.

941
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: Ryan Coogler is pulling a punch it. Oh my god,

942
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: feed him Like y'all couldn't even dress them up a

943
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: little bit, man, I see that. That's that's look. I

944
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: know how my feet look. If they're like, if we're

945
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: gonna show c G, I c G, I would definitely

946
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: say I need a foot dumble very real. Okay. I

947
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: have been known to scratch up Andy's little leg at

948
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: the time. Okay, I have an African heel. Okay, it

949
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: takes the extra work. I don't always put it in

950
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: so I could. Yeah, I really liked that we got

951
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: to see Wakonda like in all of it's because one

952
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: of the things that bothered me about for all the

953
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: things I liked about Wonder Woman, is that we don't

954
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: get to see the world that our hero comes from

955
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: a lot. And it's such as how you saying, Yeah,

956
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: that was something that I was worried about going into

957
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: this movie, is like we're going to be introduced to Wakonda,

958
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: and I had to do research into the comic books

959
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: to know what I was like setting myself up for

960
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: because I was like, there is this huge world that

961
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: we're going into and I'm worried that we'll barely get

962
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: to see it. But I felt like it was like

963
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: for the relatively short runtime, like it was like fully real,

964
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: fully explored, and we got to like see it because

965
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: because so often I feel like we start with like

966
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of origin story and then we're out and

967
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: we're in like Toronto for two hours or some ship.

968
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: It was like, well, they shot it right in South Korea,

969
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: South Africa and then randomly some Atlanta, Georgia and stuff. Um,

970
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: and I love the way you used Georgia for like

971
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: or yeah, I landed per se, but like Georgia general

972
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: is like, you know, kind of dusty, kind of dirty,

973
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: can really double as a lot of places. But it

974
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: was like I could tell I sort of like, oh,

975
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: they're in actual Africa, you know what I mean, or

976
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: even they were just establishing shots. It did like make

977
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: all that stuff feel you know, this beautiful residence. Yeah,

978
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna connect with my strange father. Yeah yeah,

979
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: I sell Black Panther and thought, maybe you know we

980
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: should talk. Make sure you lead with you. No, I'm

981
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: gonna tell him exactly why I'm not going to lead

982
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: him to believe that he's done something. Ryan Coogler brought together.

983
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: One of the very few kind of like grapes I

984
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: have in this movie is that I think that the

985
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: queen character was a little and I don't know if underwritten,

986
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: but like I kind of wish she had more of

987
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: a stance on things or just like mort yeah, because

988
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: it's right, she's a mom, it's there. Yeah, that was

989
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: kind of like a cutting dry maternal but I hope,

990
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: I mean now that I know that there's a four

991
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 1: hour cut of this movie, and like about Angela Bassett

992
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: hit the cutting room Florida, Man, you have to leave

993
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: so much for that new show one, which I look,

994
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: I want to get into it. I want to surprive,

995
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: but like, there's no way angel La Bassett is ever

996
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: going to play blue collar for me. I'm like, I'm

997
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: sorry to get out of here. Now. Why is this

998
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: queen in a copy uniform? So we touched on this

999
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: already a little bit, but there are countless scenes where

1000
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: women are kicking us assisting black Panther in whatever mission

1001
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: they're on, Like, like we said, it's usually him and

1002
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: then several women. So there's like the scene very early

1003
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: on in Nigeria to Challa shows up. He interrupts, I

1004
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: think it's a mission that Nikia is on. I don't

1005
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: know if it has to do with like human trafficking

1006
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, so she's trying to put an end

1007
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: to that. He kind of he like shows up and

1008
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: he's like, my dad's dad, please come to my ceremony,

1009
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: and she's like, you ruin my mission. But um a

1010
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: fight breaks out. But before that was like you're going

1011
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: to see her and you're gonna freeze. He's like, no,

1012
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm nice. She's like you're gonna need my help. He's like,

1013
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: I'll be fine, and then he freezes because she's so

1014
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: strong and powerful that he's like and then does have

1015
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: to like step in save him. And then I think

1016
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: it's fine, but it's like you see you right away

1017
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: the movie. After the flashback in Oakland, the next thing

1018
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: we see is that one in Nigeria, and so like

1019
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: right away, we're just seeing two women kicking ass. Then

1020
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: there's a sequence in South Korea. First they're in the

1021
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: casino and then it transfers to out in the street

1022
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: when they're basically trying to capture Claw and stop him

1023
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 1: from doing the deal with the vibranium and it's Nikia

1024
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: Akoa and then Shari is like remote, she's still in Wakonda,

1025
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: but she's like doing the whole like driving the car

1026
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: black Panther. She's leading him. Okay, she's in charge of

1027
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: him arriving right, So it's like, can you have a

1028
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: driver's license like yourself right when you build the car? Yeah.

1029
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: So it's three women and one man fighting all the

1030
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: bad guys, and it's just like, oh, I can watch

1031
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 1: those scenes over and over again. Towards the end, we've

1032
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: got a koy A and the other warrior women fighting

1033
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: kill Monger and then she goes off and fights sort

1034
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: of the rest of the people and then the Kia

1035
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: and sureI fight him. So it's like this rapid fire,

1036
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: like a bunch of women fighting the bad guy. It's

1037
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: just like, I'm like speechless with how cool it is

1038
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: to watch. I mean, a Koya stopped the war. She

1039
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: literally stopped the battle, you know what I mean, Like

1040
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 1: she literally causes Wakabi to put down his wampa get

1041
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: on his knees, and all the other men follows. Yeah,

1042
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: because you think it's a big moment when the Jabari

1043
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: show up right, because that's another you're like, oh, they're

1044
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna shut this down, and then it was actually her.

1045
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean just I think the most perfect image is

1046
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: that rhinoceros, her stepping in front of it. It's been

1047
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: bringing it to a halt, you know what I mean

1048
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: that it licks her, you know, and you're just like, oh, yeah,

1049
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: who in charge here? You know what I'm saying, Like

1050
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: she literally just got that massive animal to stop in

1051
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: its tracks and she's like all right, we don't do this.

1052
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: But in the Beauty Is that scene ends with all

1053
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: those men bowing to women like And what was a

1054
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: cool little note that like was an extra kind of

1055
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: cherry on top was when the Jabari did show up,

1056
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: they made an effort to show a female Jabari warrior

1057
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: kill someone before. So it showed, you know, our man

1058
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: named Baku's like grab yanks someone throws him. But then

1059
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: in the next shot you see like, nope, they got

1060
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: females too, and they're kicking ask like it really you

1061
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: could tell there was an effort put to be like, no,

1062
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: we're showing that women are kicked just as much. Acid

1063
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: isn't like you know, this isn't A dude came to

1064
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: save the day. It's like this dude's army came. Another

1065
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to talk about is like, you know,

1066
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: in a lot of action movies, I find that when

1067
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: you do have kick ass women, usually there's another woman,

1068
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: a woman for the women to fight, and it's like

1069
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: two women fighting. I think the only one you didn't

1070
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: really see that with was like Atomic Blonde, where like

1071
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: and she was the super kick ass woman and she

1072
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: was going toe to toe with dudes. But like in

1073
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: this one, it was like no, Also, no women betrayed

1074
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: the thing. All the women were loyal in this movie,

1075
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: and all the women were on the good side. Yeah, well,

1076
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: even like A I thought it was interesting again what

1077
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: we said about them being their own people, Like you

1078
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: know the scene between Lupitita, I'm just like Lupita a

1079
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: koy Tony, you know, I'm just calling. But you know

1080
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: where you really did see kind of like I don't

1081
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: necessarily It's like I didn't agree with a Koya in

1082
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: that moment where she's like I serve the throne whoever's

1083
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: on it, Like it was a tough You're like, well,

1084
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: this is this, this is this character's you know, code

1085
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: of ethics. Whether we are at least has a code, right,

1086
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: and then you're like, she's not comfortable, but she's like

1087
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: what do I have to do? Then she finally steps up,

1088
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: but then it comes back to in the end her

1089
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: love of country, which was her you know what I mean, like,

1090
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: which is her backbone anyway we know, like I'm just

1091
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: a spine. It's an extra friend, you know, And how

1092
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: I was like, no, you're a fighter too, you know

1093
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: what you mean? You don't just lurk. I think she

1094
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: has an arc, Like she goes It's like women never

1095
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: even get arcs most of the time in movies. So

1096
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, because she goes from like and then

1097
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: she's sort of it's grappling with this thing. It's like,

1098
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: who am I loyal to the fact that she's struggling

1099
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: with something so complicated is like great, Like we don't

1100
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: see women do that in movies. And it's crazy because

1101
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: and I feel like it speaks to like the performance

1102
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: and the writing of like there's not a ton of

1103
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: screen time spent on that particular issue, but every time

1104
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: she's there, you feel that, and it's it's like, yeah,

1105
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: we can we can write female characters who have these

1106
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: inner struggles, even if it is a movie that's primarily

1107
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: about a man. And I also I really liked the

1108
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: tone of I feel like a lot of times in

1109
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: action movies, and I'm not particularly into action movies, but

1110
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: like a lot of times when there are women in battle,

1111
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: the movie kind of goes out of its way to

1112
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: congratulate itself on being like, look we showed a woman fighting,

1113
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: girl power, right and that I was like that that

1114
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: really fucking bothers me when it's like, look, we whatt

1115
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: a girl in it? Is that you do you like,

1116
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: maybe we have a trophy and it's like no, no,

1117
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: like the way the warriors are treated are as equals

1118
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: and they're fighting each other and yeah, like it's like

1119
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: you're saying if it's like Coogan's not going out of

1120
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: his way to be like, hey, look I I included women,

1121
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: Like it's so normal, It's just what it is. It's

1122
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: also like, you know, I know, people called out Wonder

1123
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: Woman's costuming and stuff. I noticed definitely immediately they were

1124
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: fully covered that they you know, because they are bald

1125
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: to you know. It was tricky with Wonder Woman because

1126
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: don't worry, I did cry during it. So it's like

1127
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: don't feel it, but there is this sense sometimes of um,

1128
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: it gets a little sexy, you know. You get your

1129
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: swoma where it's like a fucking hair hair, you know

1130
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, and it's like a close and on

1131
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: abs and contortion, you know. Um. And this one it

1132
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: was now that they weren't beautiful, but it was so

1133
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: much about like strength and power. Yeah, it was less

1134
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: about like the women are never sexualized, like even when

1135
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,479
Speaker 1: I mean, even when you see them look beautiful showing

1136
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: up in Korea and Lupete has got the stank face

1137
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: what I mean, she isn't like the wig, you know.

1138
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: So even if it's like they look great, but she's

1139
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: just like me alone, you know what I mean. She

1140
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: does not want to be bothered, even in that moment

1141
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: where it's like they are unapologenically sexy. Right, my god,

1142
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: the figures, the bodies that addresses everything about it. There's

1143
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: no sort of like so often in especially action movies,

1144
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: where there is like one female character which is sort

1145
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: of most of Wonder Woman too. You get the first

1146
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: twenty minutes in themishere, but then she would she usually

1147
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: one like it is her movie, and then for the

1148
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: month of the movie she is the one woman surrounded

1149
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: by these men, and she's also has to kind of

1150
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: prove to them that she's not crazy. You know, I no,

1151
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: come on, we've got to come together, and they're like

1152
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: this broad I thought about that a lot since we

1153
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: recorded our Wonder Woman episode, because we recorded it so

1154
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: soon after we both saw it where I was still like,

1155
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: but like, I've seen it two times since then, and

1156
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: it is there's a lot about that movie that's like,

1157
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: there are those moments where she's hot and proving herself

1158
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: to World War One soldiers and it's like they're why

1159
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: why does it always have to be a question? I

1160
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: also didn't like the bait like there was again I

1161
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: think again my tears were in that opening sequence, like

1162
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: I love that part, but then we get to this

1163
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: point where what I don't like is that she, as

1164
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: a result of not being connected to the world, she

1165
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: was infantilized, you know what I mean, like where everything

1166
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: is like new to her. The born Sexy Yesterday troup

1167
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: is Yeah. Pop Culture Detective did a video about it

1168
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: about this trump that's super common a lot of like

1169
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: sci fi movies, Oh yes, yes, where it's like a

1170
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: fully grown sexual woman who was like I'm a baby, yeah,

1171
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: which is super the second like you identify that trupe,

1172
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: you're like like why but there yeah, and and that's

1173
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: absent from this movie. Yeah. Yeah, you know. The women

1174
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: are always an authority. Like if we jump to the

1175
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: scene where they're questioning Claw and like she sees like

1176
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: a on the screen, she walks up to him in

1177
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: Kareem's like yo, what's that and he's just like, oh,

1178
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: this is what it is. Like he's never like who

1179
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: are you or like you know, like yeah, he was like, oh,

1180
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: this is what's going on and then uh, or like

1181
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 1: that wonderful scene where like her and Chadwick are having

1182
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: the conversation in your shot like in front of Ross

1183
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: doing like a just a perfect African job of how

1184
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: they talk ship in their language while staring right at you,

1185
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: and he's like, does she speak English? And she's like

1186
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: when she wants to and shut up, you know, like

1187
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: you get out of here. Like never once are they

1188
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: made to look dumb or in secondary to anyone. They're

1189
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: always an authority. And that was like real cool. The

1190
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: whole thing was like I'm not even that you know,

1191
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: that scene really highlights it. But the whole ideas like

1192
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm not here for you, you know, I'm not here

1193
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: for you to make you feel better, because they don't

1194
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: say what you want to hear all the damn dib,

1195
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm not here to have sex with you, or they

1196
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: don't even really you know, they don't even have the moment,

1197
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: either of them, because I definitely thought it would come

1198
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: into play because they do look so good going into

1199
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: that Cristino scene. There was not a moment where they, like,

1200
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: you sex to trick someone. That happened, you know what

1201
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean. Like she's in a skin tight dress working

1202
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: it and there's never anything where like a man, you

1203
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean, She like plays with a man's

1204
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: idiocy to get her way. It's like, no, I'm gonna

1205
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: do my job, and then when it's time to fight,

1206
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: I fight. You know. Yeah, you don't even get the

1207
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: feeling that she's wearing the dress for anyone, but just

1208
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: because that's what she wanted to She's like, we have

1209
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: to look fancy, we're going to part it right. It's like,

1210
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: but yeah, they don't do that thing, which I think

1211
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: you see obviously all the time, and it's always meant

1212
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: to be obviously A comment on male stupidity, but it

1213
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: is still it's become a trope that it's now it's

1214
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: it feels lazy when it happens, right. Also, something I

1215
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: thought about is, like, you know, you have the scene

1216
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: where Michael B. Jordan's his like Bonnie and Clyde girl,

1217
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: he just like shoots her. Oh yeah, and it's like

1218
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: straight up and I feel like in a movie without

1219
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: any of these strong women, it probably would have made

1220
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: me go, come on, you know. But it's it's that

1221
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: thing that we talk about where like when people like

1222
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: this isn't a big deal. This isn't because it was,

1223
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: like it wouldn't be a big deal if it wasn't

1224
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: the only thing that you know that goes on. But

1225
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: the simple fact that you have so many strong women,

1226
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: so many women with like speaking roles, so many that

1227
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: like killing her off like it doesn't matter to make

1228
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 1: that statement doesn't ring as hollow as it normally does

1229
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: when you have your fridging scene. But that also I

1230
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: think tells you, you know, because of how he does

1231
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: set up femininity, it's exactly how you know he's a

1232
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: bad guy. Yeah, when we don't know the fact that

1233
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: he takes a woman out so soulnestly when it's clearly

1234
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: they did have some sort of sexual bond, you know,

1235
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: and she's even like, I'm sorry, you know, she says

1236
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: that for a second, he's like, my bitch, it lets

1237
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: you know immediately, oh he's no good, right, And he's

1238
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: also like, you ain't what kind boy? You know what

1239
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You don't roll with the way we roll

1240
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: up in here. We don't be shooting him out, you know,

1241
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: all three times to gasp on that feel that you're like, oh,

1242
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,439
Speaker 1: because you are like this is this is his girl.

1243
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: This is like she's been for all one of his

1244
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: highest they're always making out like I got a bigger mission.

1245
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: Like right, he kills a few women because towards the

1246
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: end he one of the warriors. And then in the

1247
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: early I think the only white woman you see in

1248
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: the entire movie is that British woman at yeah who

1249
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if she dies, but she gets poisoned,

1250
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. It hits her with a straight

1251
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: up hotep speech when it's like oh you think, uh so,

1252
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: how do you think your ancestors got this? Huh? And

1253
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, we get it. Your look was like

1254
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: with her coffee, and I was like, okay, I think

1255
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: you can leave now exactly. But I also looked how

1256
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: extra he looked at that scenies. Yeah, it was like

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01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: so extra because it was like the layers of denim.

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Speaker 1: Was it a vest or there's a jacket over the

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01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: jacket Brodie Reid, you know that comic. Yeah, Brodie Reid

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01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: has that exact same jacket and the exact same Yeah. Yeah.

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01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: I feel like he was wearing your glasses between He

1262
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: was giving so many looks in the museum and I thought,

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01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: I was like, honestly, your lucky security didn't come to

1264
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: you close. It was like, you're very extra right now,

1265
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: I was, I mean, you do feel that when when

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01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: Michael b takes that lady out, I don't remember did

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01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 1: she did she have a name that character? I don't

1268
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 1: know if we are but we called her relaxed Hair

1269
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: and then she was taken out and that was the

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01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: big That was the bigger message in the movie is

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01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: the one woman without she gotta god. I feel like

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01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: that was like you were saying, like it's like a

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01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: villain moment because it's hard for like even though I

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01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,560
Speaker 1: you go into it, you're like, oh, Michael Be's the

1275
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 1: bad guy, but it's like hard for Michael Be to

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01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: lose me, and I want he killed the lady. I

1277
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: was like, okay, he kind of last. That's a great

1278
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: way to lose me in the movie, straight up murder

1279
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: a woman because I'll forgive a lot and a hot villain. Yeah,

1280
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: we know about your take on Spider Man too, and

1281
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 1: Alfred my my dog. Thick villain. Yeah, well I love

1282
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 1: a thick villain, look at my romantic history. But that

1283
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: also that leads me to another thing I wanted to

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01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: talk about as far as like tropes in superhero movies

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01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: in general. So I would say of the movies that

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01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: we've done so far in this podcast, we see a

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01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: trend of movies with a female protagonist faring better in

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01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,520
Speaker 1: terms of their portrayal of women. Movies with male protagonists

1289
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: usually get like a one nipple rating. So The Black

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01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: Panther is like a rare example of a movie with

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01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 1: a male protagonist that services its female characters extremely well,

1292
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: because like not every movie needs to have a female protagonist. Like,

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01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: women make up roughly fifty of the people, like we um,

1294
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: so men identifying people would make up that. But then

1295
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: there's also gender queer and non binary people who make

1296
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: up a small percentage of people as well. But because

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01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: like I think it's somewhere around seventy percent of movies

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01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: feature a male protagonist, so we see this huge like

1299
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: gender and balance in terms of movies. But I think

1300
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: it is the responsibility of movies that do have a

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01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: male protagonist to still treat its female character as well.

1302
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: So food them do Black Panther does. What does suck

1303
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: is that this movie still follows a trend of a

1304
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: superhero movie with a male protagonist. I'm hoping with the

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01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: success of Wonder Woman will see like a shift in

1306
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: that soon, but this still follows a trend of being

1307
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: a superhero movie with a male protagonist. But I think

1308
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 1: it goes to great lengths to subvert the troops that

1309
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: we see in superhero movies. The troops that like that

1310
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: are specific to the treatment of women. I've made a

1311
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: list of just a few of them. I'm sure there

1312
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: are dozens more. How many different colors, fonts, highlights, it's

1313
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: a lot of crazy. Okay, I'm so lame. Wait, it's

1314
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: almost like she went to grad school. So some of

1315
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: the troops include they're only being one female main character,

1316
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 1: she's poised as the love interest in pretty much nothing else.

1317
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: She's given no agency, she's given little or no backstory,

1318
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: She's given little or no goal or desire outside of

1319
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: being with the male hero. Very often she disappears for

1320
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: forty five minutes at a time, and then she comes back.

1321
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 1: It's like, oh did she come back? For often because

1322
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: she was captured, held as bait uh and she's not

1323
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 1: able to fight, she has to be saved by the

1324
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: male hero. Black Panther subverts all of these trips, like

1325
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: women are never damseled, they're given agency, they have their

1326
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: own lives around fact stories. We have already talked about that.

1327
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: There is one tiny moment where Captain Kidding, where kill

1328
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: Monger has his like spear or whatever raised above sureI

1329
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: and is like probably about to kill her, and Black

1330
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: Panther does have to like throw him out of the

1331
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: way basically, But that moment it didn't even register for

1332
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: me until my third viewing because it's so quick and

1333
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 1: it's not It doesn't feel like she's damseled and she

1334
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: has to be saved because up until that point she

1335
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: had been fighting, and then after that point she's continues

1336
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: fighting that to me felt like a team moment. Yea,

1337
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: and being siblings helped him because women save male warriors

1338
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: asks so many times in this movie that it was

1339
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: like exactly, yea. And compare that sequence to the ending

1340
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: of for example, Spider Man Too, where Mary Jane is

1341
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 1: literally in shackles cannot do anything. But we all know

1342
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: that that's really Alpha Mollinas movie, Like we could have

1343
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: chained up the whole, like we would just be like,

1344
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: let's just everyone else get out of frame, let them

1345
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: in flex with his claws. Damn it. Uh. Yeah. The

1346
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: one time she, like Mary Jane, tries to do anything,

1347
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: she's immediately flung out of the way. She's literally thrown

1348
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: out of the climax of the movie. That happens to

1349
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: women all the time, movies where there What was the

1350
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,560
Speaker 1: movie we did recently where like the female protagonist, it

1351
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: was Pacific rim where I wake up at the end

1352
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: basically like they get knocked out and then they come

1353
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: to when it's all been solved, right the movie make

1354
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,560
Speaker 1: him worry. She is literally launched out of the climactic

1355
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: scene of that movie. There there, she's sealed up in

1356
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: a little pod and they're like seal at her bitch

1357
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: and then and then we see her at the end

1358
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: for a little nuzzle, and it's just like fud there,

1359
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: and that movie doesn't I mean, I just I anytime

1360
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: a woman's lawn start at the climax of the movie,

1361
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, okay, cool, that doesn't great. Let

1362
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: us know how it ends, right. Another thing I want

1363
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: to talk about is I labeled this section men be

1364
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: Crying because you see no less than five men in

1365
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: this movie crying, which is a mate like showing men

1366
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: crying in movies sends a message to men and young

1367
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: boys who are seeing the movie that it's okay to cry.

1368
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: That the new queer eyes just men crying. And I've

1369
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: never touched like. I watched it all yesterday and I

1370
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 1: was like, why is everyone you know going crazy over this?

1371
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, correct, men cry the entire time.

1372
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: White men, black men, young men, old man. Everyone's crying.

1373
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 1: It fed me. It was mana, it was man nectar. Okay,

1374
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. I'm saving it. I'm

1375
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 1: saying it for a dark days. I'm saving it for

1376
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: when I need it. And then I'm canceling everything clear

1377
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: my schedule. I've got queer eyes. Yeah, because I feel

1378
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: like so much of toxic masculinity stems from men not

1379
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: being able to emote and feel their feelings and like

1380
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: be expressive of their feelings. So the fact that you

1381
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: see to Challa crying, you see his dad to Chaka crying,

1382
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 1: You see Zuri, who we haven't really talked about, but

1383
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: it's for a Whittaker's character. You see Joebu crying, that's

1384
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 1: certainly k brown. And you see kill Monger crying. You

1385
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: see five men shedding tears, kill Monger adulter kill. I

1386
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: think the adult. Yeah, how does it feel as a

1387
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: black man is see black? Oh it's great. I didn't

1388
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 1: feel this clean since just back to being cleans. Yeah,

1389
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: they went to a sniffle city, yes, there, but the

1390
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: moments when men were crying this movie, I'm like, oh man,

1391
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 1: I'm really glad this movie is PG thirteen. I'm glad.

1392
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm glad that Like, yeah, I'm glad that like young

1393
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: men can see this. Yeah, and your father we're in

1394
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 1: it again? Sound fine? That kid was Yeah, he's like

1395
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: he's like eleven, He's like everybody dies, And I'm like, well,

1396
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: nok go play us some toys. That's reality. No man

1397
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: speaking of toys. So sorry this interesting transition. I know

1398
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: the scene where he's trying on his new shoes, she's like, oh,

1399
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: I call them sneakers. Ha ha. She's like, these are

1400
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: like fully automated shoes, just like the ones in the

1401
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: American movie that Baba used to wear. What movie Back

1402
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: to the Future? Okay, that's what I thought, I was

1403
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: I assume, yeah, yeah, I was just like did they

1404
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: just make it back to the future? Like it was

1405
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: a very like just a nerd where it's like you

1406
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: have to know to know if you know, you know.

1407
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: Another thing I wanted to mention is that it's a

1408
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: panther goddess that shows the condoms flower. Okay, you just yeah,

1409
01:16:55,680 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: like panther. Yeah, it's like pussy goddess flower. Like it's like, okay,

1410
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: we get it. It's about women, right, and it's does

1411
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,600
Speaker 1: someone say pussy goddess flower? Because it's a flower that

1412
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 1: gives the black panther his power. Flowers are very feminine

1413
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,560
Speaker 1: little things. And the fact that it's not like some

1414
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: because so many superheres are like, oh, you're very rich

1415
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: and good at technology, and that's why you're a superhero rock.

1416
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: H Yeah, you were strong enough to withstand this rock

1417
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: and now you're super so. Yeah. I liked that it

1418
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 1: was a flower that gives some his powers flower power,

1419
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: and now you're making a soundless strong Okay, you don't

1420
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: ruin the vote for me. Did you know that flower?

1421
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: We came forth from the pussy goddess flower. I was

1422
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: gonna say that flower. I was gonna be like, did

1423
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: you know that flowers have eight petals? And I was

1424
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 1: going to make a fake flower factors, but then I

1425
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: remember panthers or cats? Have cats have eight nipples? You know?

1426
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: This is cat factor with Caitlin also, yeah, that's crazy

1427
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: that we've been talking about panther and that hasn't come

1428
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 1: up soon, right, Um? I think the Black Panthers suit

1429
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,839
Speaker 1: should have had eight nipples star to the George Clooney

1430
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 1: nipple Batman suit. Oh, that would have been so distracted

1431
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 1: if you look very confused, And it was absolutely not

1432
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 1: because I could picture it because I remember that Batman

1433
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: suit was like, oh man, yeah, could anyone actually summarize

1434
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: that movie? Or we were we so transfixed by the nips?

1435
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 1: I stand for the nips. Okay, good, I'm here for

1436
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: the nips. Something that's been talked about a lot in

1437
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: this movie is colorism and how it's very rare to

1438
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 1: see dark skinned black people. It was the greatest moment

1439
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: of my life. I love it. I love light skinned

1440
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: people have been tripping over there's no yeah, because you're

1441
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: in everything else. Give us this. You have Shamar Moore

1442
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 1: who's in there having just weird threesomes, so give us this,

1443
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: and you at most rap videos like so it literally

1444
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: did make me feel better because I'm constantly like because

1445
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: I've been I've been going out on auditions, like when

1446
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: my first is my first go in l a pilot season,

1447
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: and what it is to kind of go in for

1448
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: stuff and even just to read the script like I

1449
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: when I was like, this is for a white woman,

1450
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like when I literally read

1451
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: it and I'm like, okay, Like so how much work

1452
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: do I put in here? How likely is this? My

1453
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: whole big thing is. I was like, I'm never gonna

1454
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: be on TV. My eyes are too small. Everyone has

1455
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: big eyes like dinner plates. And then I was like

1456
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: watching I was like, actually, like no, not all most

1457
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: black people don't. I was like, oh, that's like a thing,

1458
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's a white standard

1459
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 1: of beauty. And then when I was watching that movie

1460
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, no, maybe I'm okay, Maybe

1461
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm okay. I will shave my head though, but I

1462
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: was like, but it was I don't know. It was

1463
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: like just on that very minor level where I was like, Okay,

1464
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not so bad, but it's unfortunate that it's

1465
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 1: either a totally black world or it's like the one

1466
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: black person supporting a Caucasian dream. I mean, but anybody.

1467
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: It was so great, and I was like, oh god,

1468
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm lighting all those black people so well, picking up

1469
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: all the tones. One of the very few females and

1470
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 1: a photographer in this one awesome. Her name is Rachel

1471
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: Morrison and she was the she did mud and she

1472
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 1: isn't she nominated? Is the first I did not know

1473
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 1: this first the first woman. Yeah, first female cinema talkingper ever,

1474
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: because cinematographers are almost never women on like mainstream, big

1475
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: Hollywood movies. Yeah. One last thing I wanted to say,

1476
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: do you think that there is a surprise kiss at

1477
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: the end of this movie? There's a kiss? A fan

1478
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: mentioned it might be a surprise kiss because he kind

1479
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: of So it's after the whole battle, Te'challa and the

1480
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 1: Kia are hanging out in the city and he's like,

1481
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 1: please stay, please, you can do men do a lot

1482
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: of begging in this movie, which is like a pretty

1483
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:53,560
Speaker 1: times very sexually charged. For me, it was like this,

1484
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: I love there. Yeah, but continued so like yeah, he

1485
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: was like, you can do what you want to do.

1486
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: I have like an idea for you, because her whole

1487
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: thing has been she wants to basically do like outreach

1488
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: and use the resources that Wakonda has to help other

1489
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: parts of the world, and he's like, yeah, we can

1490
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: like figure out a way for you to do that

1491
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: with also like staying here with me. She's like, and

1492
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: please be my girlfriend, and then he like swoops in

1493
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 1: and kisses her. It's not in a situation where like

1494
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: she was necessarily expecting it or prepared for it. I

1495
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: read it as kind of a surprise kiss. Yeah. Yeah,

1496
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: But then he like kind of backs away. He's like, sorry,

1497
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 1: I had to I almost died like that. But then

1498
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: she leans in and kisses him, so she returns it. Right.

1499
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: It's not I mean, on the on the spectrum of

1500
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: surprise kisses, the worst of course being The Mummy, a

1501
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: feral Brendan Fraser leaping out of a cage and kissing

1502
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 1: a woman who immediately falls in love with him, which

1503
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: is like cartoonish. I feel like this was sort of

1504
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: a surprise kiss and I feel like, because I just

1505
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 1: saw this movie, I was like, because that's how movies

1506
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: condition us to feel about the surprise cast. Sometimes I

1507
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: did appreciate that she returned it, so it wasn't like

1508
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think it kind of Yeah.

1509
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: I feel like it was just in the sense that

1510
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: they had history, and I feel like when you're around

1511
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 1: your ax and you're like, what's up. Sorry, And I

1512
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: also't like that he I also do like that he

1513
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: acknowledged like, yo, I did kind of press the gas. Yeah,

1514
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: plant the gas. And then she was like, all right,

1515
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: you did this time, but next time, well it was

1516
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: and maybe I missed it, but that was the only

1517
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,560
Speaker 1: time he joked. That was the only funny line he

1518
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: said in the movie. You know, he was not the

1519
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: funny one. And so he's like, I almost died, and

1520
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: you're kind of like, you know, I did, I know

1521
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: because at that registered to be and then I was

1522
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 1: just like, but it. But part of me also wonders

1523
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: if it was like because I'm to be misremembering the trope,

1524
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 1: But isn't it usually like the girl does a small

1525
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,759
Speaker 1: kiss and then like the guys like, yeah, it's time.

1526
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 1: So I was wondering if it was a flip on that. No,

1527
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: the surprise kisses the trope and the girls like it's okay,

1528
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't remember a lot. I mean,

1529
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,560
Speaker 1: it goes both, but I think normally it is like

1530
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 1: a man comes in for a kiss that the woman

1531
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: is surprised about remember arms going from open, takes it

1532
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 1: in the kiss into her heart, where when the kiss starts,

1533
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: it's like, this could go either way, this could go

1534
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: either way. But almost every time it's like, no, she

1535
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: just fell in love somehow got radioactive fox saliva, She's

1536
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: gonna whatever. Thinking at the funny characters, though, it's all

1537
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 1: the women. All the women have all the left line.

1538
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: Yeah except for Hembako think Zaddimbak, who really has some

1539
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: Are you done? He was here? He was just here,

1540
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: he was just here. Sorry, y'all. I have a million

1541
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: bottles in front of me. I am I have an

1542
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: unquenchable thirst drinking. That's what happens when I think about Lupita, right,

1543
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,799
Speaker 1: and every strong woman, I'm like, man like. I figured

1544
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: that out in Atomic Blonde, that like women kicking men's

1545
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: asses like Wolf. That's fool. My god, I just haven't

1546
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: been allowed to see it. I know, it's like, this

1547
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: is what I need. Right, Um, let's talk about whether

1548
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,759
Speaker 1: or not the movie passes the Bechtel tests. It passes

1549
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: it next, I'm sorry, I don't know about it. There

1550
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: are a lot of scenes where women are talking about,

1551
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 1: usually to Challa, so they do not pass. I found

1552
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,560
Speaker 1: a few that can. I take a guess, just just

1553
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 1: just a free ball. My first guest is the scene

1554
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: outside the Korean club where they're discussing her previous time there,

1555
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: and they only she mentions to Challa and them as

1556
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: a group once, but besides that, they're just talking about

1557
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: why she's bad news and the thing she did last

1558
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 1: time she came. She's speaking so because it's Nikia talking

1559
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 1: to the Korean woman, right, because she does have a name,

1560
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: she's given a name Sophia, I think it is. Yeah,

1561
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: that's that's one of my contenders. Is a passing. This

1562
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: is a table in Klys. I can't see it, but

1563
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you're not wrong, and I think it's either

1564
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: right before that or right after that Akoi is wearing

1565
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: the wig. She's like, I can't wait to get this

1566
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: ridiculous thing off my head, and Nikki is like, oh,

1567
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: it looks nice. Just whip it back and forth, and

1568
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 1: then Akoi is like disgrace, which I think is a

1569
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,839
Speaker 1: dig at willow Smith, but it does pass the Backelt

1570
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 1: because they're talking about her wig. And then there's a

1571
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: scene towards the end in the big battle where Nikia

1572
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 1: and sure He kind of meet up and one of

1573
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: them is like, are you all right? And then I

1574
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm okay you, Yes, let's go. That

1575
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: passes a lot of these other ones, though I think

1576
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,839
Speaker 1: they're talking about because is like a scene where Nikia

1577
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 1: and the Queen. The Queen's like when they have the

1578
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: herb that they stole from the garden, right before it

1579
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: gets burned, She's like, you have to be the one

1580
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: to take this because if we give it to Umbaku,

1581
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: he's going to create an even bigger monster potentially, and

1582
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: she's like, no, I'm a spy without an army, I

1583
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,799
Speaker 1: don't stand a chance. So that like kind of passes

1584
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 1: at the very very end of that conversation, I think.

1585
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,719
Speaker 1: But up until that, I mean, what about this scene

1586
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: where Nikia comes to a Koyer and she asked her

1587
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: to revolt, and she says before that, she's like your

1588
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: spy who comes and goes as you leave? And then uh,

1589
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: she's like, who do you serve? And then she's like,

1590
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: I serve my country, and then a Koya goes, well,

1591
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 1: I serve the throne no matter who sits up there,

1592
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: so she doesn't necessarily say a man. She's saying it's

1593
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: the throne, which I also thought was badass because she's like,

1594
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: oh fu tchalla jadaka who sits there? It's that's who

1595
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: I say. Yeah, they start out being like, oh, let's

1596
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 1: overthrow kill Monger and you're like no, and then they're like,

1597
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 1: but I love to Chila. It's the love part. But

1598
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: other than that, I think the combo fly yeah, and

1599
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: that conversation ends being I think the key is like

1600
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: I love my country, and then Aqua is like, then

1601
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 1: you serve your country, and she's like, I save my country.

1602
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 1: That pass so many like good lines like you're still

1603
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 1: is literally thirty combined years of Okay, those black actors

1604
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 1: who show up can't just be basic. Okay, you need

1605
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: a fucking Juilliard degree to throw a spear, you know

1606
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like everybody there is like like, oh,

1607
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: the acting was so good. I was like, cause, these

1608
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: bitch has been fucking you know, doing theater for forty

1609
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: five years, all got m f as. It's not you

1610
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like none of them were

1611
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: found on YouTube, so you're getting extra level shit. Yeah yeah,

1612
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 1: Um all right, let's write the movie on our nipple scale.

1613
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: So we've got a zero to five nipple scale ratings

1614
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 1: specifically based on its portrayal of women. So put your

1615
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: nips on the table a time to do it. I

1616
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: think I'm giving it a five nipple rating. The fact

1617
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 1: that you see women just kicking as the whole time,

1618
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: having agency, having desires, having skills. They're all women of color.

1619
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: We rarely see this on screen where strong black women

1620
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: get to just like kick as, at least in mainstream

1621
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: Hollywood movies. This movie is a triumph for women. This movie,

1622
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 1: I hope will be just like a cultural landmark for

1623
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: years to come. I'm so glad this movie exists. I

1624
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: hope that everyone sees it millions of times. Carolyn, do

1625
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: you like this movie? I think I think that women

1626
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 1: are represented so well in this movie. I was speaking

1627
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: to this earlier, like, it's not every single movie has

1628
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: to have a woman protagonist, but of the movies that

1629
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: do have a male protagonist, I think it's important still

1630
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: obviously to do justice to its female characters, and this

1631
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 1: movie does an excellent job of that. I'm giving it

1632
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 1: five nipples Nikia koay A and sure he I'll get one,

1633
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 1: so does Angela Bassett. And my final nipple goes to

1634
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: I think I want to give it to Imbaku, yes,

1635
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: because he was like all geared up to be like

1636
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 1: he was sort of established as this like kind of

1637
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,839
Speaker 1: the most toxic in his masculinity of all the male characters,

1638
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: and then he came around and we were like, great,

1639
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. He's also very handsome. I'm gonna go,

1640
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go four and a half just because I'm

1641
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: a little bit I'm gonna go I'm gonna go for

1642
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: and half. There's like there are a few little things

1643
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 1: with this movie. Wasn't crazy about the surprise. Kiss wish

1644
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: that the queen character had been given a little more depth,

1645
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: a little more things to do. But I mean, obviously

1646
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: everything I agree with that you're saying. There's is it's

1647
01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: so rare to see a movie where when men are

1648
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 1: represented not only as capable, but respected by the men

1649
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: who surround them and really working on equal footing the

1650
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 1: entire time. They have romantic lives, but they're not identified

1651
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: by their romantic lives. It's just it's great, There's I

1652
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 1: don't I don't have that much to add. I really

1653
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 1: liked it. I'm excited to see the director's cut to

1654
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 1: see what, like more there was that we didn't get

1655
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: to see, because there's like little moments where it's like, yeah,

1656
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 1: I would have loved to see these two women talk more,

1657
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: these or even these two characters. Um, I would have

1658
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 1: loved to see like a softer side of a Koya.

1659
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 1: And I'm I feel like that probably exists somewhere. I

1660
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: just haven't seen it. So I give it four and

1661
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 1: a half. I'm giving two to Sure because I just

1662
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 1: I just love her. I love that little baby genius.

1663
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 1: Giving two to Imbaco because he's my crash and we

1664
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 1: must give things to our crushes and the last half

1665
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 1: to Okoya. Yeah five knits maybe literally at all For

1666
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: me comes down to that moment when a Core is

1667
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: staring at Wikabi and he's like, would you really kill me?

1668
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: And she's like, for Wakanda, I will kill a man

1669
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: for I will kill my love right, and the person

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Speaker 1: she's like, I have bigger dreams or I am tied

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Speaker 1: to more than you, and I think you don't see that.

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Speaker 1: It's I think, especially superhero movies, it's all kind of like,

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Speaker 1: you know, the idea that you employ your powers, you

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01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: do whatever for love, right. It's always like to get

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01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: this person to save this person. You know, you killed

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01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 1: my parents and I have to avenge them. It's a

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01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 1: love thing. And this was so much. You know, this

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01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: movie was about the bigger It was about country, it

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01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 1: was about nationality, home, spirit, those bigger things, and the

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01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 1: men kind of came second to that. You know. Even

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01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 1: in the conversations about T'Challa, mostly they're about him as king,

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01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: as ruler of this nation, not as man I love

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01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, so you kind of again, it's like he's

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01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 1: a symbol, you know, in a lot of ways, he's

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01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: he's the symbol and the women are like the people

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01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: grappling with the symbol, which makes sense. Five nips maybe

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01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 1: five hot nips them to three go to ok, yeah, yeah,

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01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 1: to go to Nikia nice perfect. Yeah, I'm gonna go

1689
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 1: ahead and drop five cocoa butter moisturized, you know, the

1690
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: super chocolate Ariola, Like yeah, same, the same for me,

1691
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 1: where it's like, not only does it pass the Bechdel,

1692
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 1: but yeah, you do see women be like men don't matter.

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01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: And I think what really drives it home for me

1694
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 1: is like without the women in this movie, they couldn't

1695
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 1: have won. They could not have won. And I feel

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01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: like a lot of action movies that have women, you

1697
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: can take the woman out and they're either no longer

1698
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 1: a burden or like it would be a little harder

1699
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 1: but they'd be fine. But the movie would literally stop

1700
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 1: without those women. It took Nikia's foresight to like, let

1701
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: me get one of these herbs that I might need this.

1702
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: It took them like going up to Umbaku in the cold.

1703
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: You know, you know, angela basset don't do well in

1704
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 1: the cold. You know, it's those those dreads were holding

1705
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 1: in all that winter, and you know, and what what

1706
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 1: was Imbo, do you just have to cholott on ice?

1707
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,600
Speaker 1: You just got this cold nigger just in your house forever, Like,

1708
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 1: what was the plan? He had no plane, he had

1709
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 1: no plan. He just yeah, like, I'm gonna just wait

1710
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:21,640
Speaker 1: till the dust settle and I'll figure out what to

1711
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 1: do with this icy ass right here. So like you

1712
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: needed those women for it to be success, and for like,

1713
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: even without kill Monger, Black Panther would not be who

1714
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 1: he is without Suri's it is built around and you

1715
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 1: know it and her tech is a real pinnacle of

1716
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 1: the movie. You see it used. You see it in

1717
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: the sneakers. You see it used with the balls that

1718
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 1: thrown off her knocked him out with his own suit,

1719
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: Like she plays with him, she's like and like the

1720
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 1: first words out of Shrey's mouth is teaching her older

1721
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: brother about tech. Where she's like, just because it works

1722
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: doesn't mean we can't make it better. So yeah, just

1723
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: lots of women in charge. So I'm definitely given to

1724
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 1: to Sherry to do Koya, and I guess one to Nikita.

1725
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 1: You know, I want to give her to but I

1726
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 1: only have one to spare you. Six nipples, alright, six nipples.

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Speaker 1: Six butter six, purple Airy Yolas. Oh my god, thank you.

1728
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 1: This has been so much fun. Yeah, thank you so

1729
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 1: much for being here. Now, I mean, where can people

1730
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 1: find you online? Is the find me on a Twitter

1731
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Speaker 1: at black Dress Come to Couples Therapy the second Saturday

1732
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Speaker 1: of the month at nerd Melt. Don't believe you've got

1733
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Speaker 1: that that handle. I know you got to come in early.

1734
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Before I even tweeted anything. I was like, let's give

1735
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Speaker 1: it to me. That's why I'm joining all these other sites,

1736
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Speaker 1: Like I think, I don't think viro is going to

1737
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Speaker 1: be anything, but I need to take iff he now

1738
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: because if he is being squat on and I can't

1739
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 1: get anyone to give it to me. Speaking of which,

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Speaker 1: you can catch me at if the waddy wait which

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Speaker 1: is I F y in W A D I W E.

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Speaker 1: On the Twitter and Instagram right now, it's just a

1743
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: lot of black panther content. Perfect, Yeah, so perfect. You

1744
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 1: might want to see that cool sterling brown picture we've been. Yeah,

1745
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Speaker 1: I'm at u c B every second Friday at tim

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Speaker 1: thirty UCB Sunset with white Women. We have a show

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Speaker 1: called Your Token Friend, where we interview a person of

1748
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Speaker 1: color about being a token in a white space and

1749
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Speaker 1: then we do improv off of it and then uh,

1750
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Speaker 1: every first Saturday we have me Brody Reid and Minium

1751
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Speaker 1: It's mean rude anyway. Um, thanks for listening and Wakonda forever, forever, forever,

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Speaker 1: go ahead. Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry,