WEBVTT - How the Moon Works

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should know?

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<v Speaker 1>From house Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me is always as

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<v Speaker 1>a very reluctant Charles W. Checkers Bryant not always reluctant.

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<v Speaker 1>Always here with me as always sometimes reluctant as a

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<v Speaker 1>reluctant Chuck Bryant. How's it going, Josh? It's going fine

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I'm great, dude. I'm going to see Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Dylman tonight. Are you really living legend with Leon red

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<v Speaker 1>Bone or Russell? Yeah? Russell right, Yeah, he's opened up

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<v Speaker 1>at me. I don't really care about that. I always

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<v Speaker 1>confusing with Acre Winner. Yeah yeah, just they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>look alike. Yeah. Well that's all I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Okay, Um, Chuck, you're ready, I'm ready? Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So um back in November nineteen sixty six, are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for this? We should probably say first, let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, Chuck, we're gonna make it through this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I have PTSD from the Sun podcast. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>do PTSD. I always forget that. Let me just write

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<v Speaker 1>that down alright, PTSD, Yes, and now we're doing the

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<v Speaker 1>Moon podcast, which really, aside from the orbital dynamics, has

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<v Speaker 1>almost no physics to it whatsoever. This is it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>better than the Sun. Okay, So still a little mind

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<v Speaker 1>numbing for me. It'll be okay, we'll make it interesting, alright.

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<v Speaker 1>So back in November nineteen sixty six, uh, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lunar orbiter called the Orbiter two because it was

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<v Speaker 1>the second one UM and it was flying around the

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<v Speaker 1>Moon taking pictures of it for the impending moon landing

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<v Speaker 1>that the Apollo program was leading up toward, right exciting,

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<v Speaker 1>and it had taken its last bit of film, last picture,

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<v Speaker 1>and it actually took what's called the picture of the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun Tree, or it was at the time. It was

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of side shot of the Moon rather than

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<v Speaker 1>from above. It was almost like from the side, so

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<v Speaker 1>you could see the elevation and everything, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>looked like a new view of the Moon. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the the NASA controllers tell orbiter to go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>crash land, and it did on the dark side of

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon, never to be heard from again until like

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<v Speaker 1>a week ago when another lunar orbiter which was taking

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<v Speaker 1>pictures for the Moon based program. It's not around anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>We got canceled. Um caught this kind of crater, a

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<v Speaker 1>butterfly shaped crater that's um characteristic of a low trajectory landing.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that it and Um, it's exactly where NASA thought

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<v Speaker 1>it would be. So there you go. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>mysteries of the Moon, salt, the the the Yeah. This

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<v Speaker 1>this thing's been sitting there for you know, forty years,

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<v Speaker 1>chimp or anything like a chip. But I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>just to think of this like lunar orbiter crashed by itself,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on the dark side of the Moon for forty years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it's lonely. It's chilling, isn't it. It is. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you seen the movie Moon? Yes, enjoyed that very much.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the guy who directed that, Duncan Jones. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Um Bowie. Yeah, Bowie's son. Yeah, imagine David Bowie being

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<v Speaker 1>your dad. I want to see him perform live more

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<v Speaker 1>than anything else ever, and I don't think he'll ever

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Oh, he doesn't perform any longer. No, he

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't played. I think his last tour was like ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago or something. And he kind of said this

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Huh, come see me. I'll be on my

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<v Speaker 1>Hawaiian island with him. On is that he lives in

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<v Speaker 1>an island? Well, he has a place in Kauai. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure he'd spend some time there. Very nice. Sorry, so

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<v Speaker 1>can you see where? Like really trying to put this on? Yeah, anyway, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon is a good movie. And the Moon is

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<v Speaker 1>a good um planetary satellite to Earth. It does all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of cool beneficial things for Earth. Did you know

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<v Speaker 1>that it has an influence on Earth? So let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the moon, Chuck. She would go all the way back,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh too, at the times of Aristotle. Why not Aristotle? Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>as we all know, I believed in the geocentric model

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe. Galileo said, no, no, no, you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>It's heliocentric. And apparently he came to that conclusion by

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<v Speaker 1>studying the moon. Yeah, basically, like the Sun is the

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<v Speaker 1>center of the universe, jerk, not the Earth. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, you know what, that's heresy and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be under house arrest for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, I have a lot of wine and

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<v Speaker 1>cheese in my house and that's not so bad, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't need much anyway, so I don't like the

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<v Speaker 1>outside world. But at first, you know, and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>he had a better telescope or something, because Galileo saw

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more detail, it sounds like than Aristotle did.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Aristotle had a telescope. Was that the deal?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he was just looking at it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Copernicus was the first one to look through a telescope,

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<v Speaker 1>or Galileo was before Copernicus. A Copernicus had a nicer telescope.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Galileo came after Copernicus. All right, well, then

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way it went. We're gonna get this wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>We totally are, but continue, chuck. But the point is

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<v Speaker 1>Aristotle thought the Earth was the center in the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the Moon had dark spots and light spots

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<v Speaker 1>they thought were sees, right, Maria, Yes, I looked up

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of pronunciations on this one, by the way, Maria, Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds right. And uh, the lighter spots were correctly

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<v Speaker 1>perceived to be land or terry. Yeah, but it's all land.

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<v Speaker 1>As it turns out. It does turn out the moon

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of boring place. Yeah, you think, I think

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a destination, Yes, I think it's incredibly boring.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be cool to go there. I'm sure it's the

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<v Speaker 1>most thrilling thing in the world to do, or beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the world to do, to go to the Moon and

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<v Speaker 1>be on the Moon. But just you know, being back

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<v Speaker 1>here on Earth and in discussing parts of it, like

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<v Speaker 1>the moon as the destination's kind of boring. What the

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<v Speaker 1>moon does, where the Moon came from. I think it's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>I do too. And despite the fact that they were

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<v Speaker 1>not sees, they still call the Maria sees. Yes, Tranquility, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>mar Tranquility or mar twin Quillium, etcetera, etcetera. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Sea of Tranquility is where the first moon landing took place.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought it looks like a nice place to land.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was forty three years ago this month when

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<v Speaker 1>we're recording, when this comes out, it will be last month.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, that that um buzz Aldrin, right, who never

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<v Speaker 1>gets mentioned? First? Yeah, Neil Armstrong. Second, how about that

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<v Speaker 1>um landed on the moon. Apparently buzz Aldre was the

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<v Speaker 1>first person to um urinate on the moon. Yeah, Neil

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong didn't buzz did while they were there, not on

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<v Speaker 1>the moon, but while on the moon. While on the moon, okay, yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh you always have to church it up then, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's disrespectful. He literally on the surface of

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon. I think something probably really bad would happen

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<v Speaker 1>to his physiology if he tried to pee on the moon.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it would float away anyway, right, yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he just implode, right, Okay, yeah, vacuum. And since

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<v Speaker 1>I was guys, since Buzz Alburing first pete on the

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<v Speaker 1>Moon in nineteen nine, um, for the following three years,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve other Americans set foot on the Moon. And you

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<v Speaker 1>don't hear a lot about that, supposedly, uh. And we're,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as we know, the only people to set

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<v Speaker 1>foot on the moon so far. Um. And they brought

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<v Speaker 1>back about eight hundred and forty two pounds, which is

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<v Speaker 1>threems of moon rock moon dust, and it was studied

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's about it. That was all they had.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, well, I guess we can bring back

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<v Speaker 1>some of these rocks and that's all over. What. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I told everybody on Earth, I'd bring him something, but

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<v Speaker 1>there is nothing here. I wonder if if they got

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<v Speaker 1>a little piece of rock. I'm sure they did. Surely

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<v Speaker 1>you should be able to ask for that, right yeah. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well yeah if you're the guy who went and got it, yeah, exactly. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so since then, you know, since they brought back

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<v Speaker 1>this moon rock, a lot of these questions that have

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<v Speaker 1>been around since ancient times. Um, we're settled just really

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<v Speaker 1>in the last like forty years or so. Like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we now know, okay for sure that there isn't water

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<v Speaker 1>on the moontain. Supposedly there could be, um, but we

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<v Speaker 1>now have a good idea thanks to the moon rocks

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<v Speaker 1>how the moon was formed, which settled a longstanding debate,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. And um, yeah, and just being there, they

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<v Speaker 1>found out a lot of stuff, like they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just in a sea, it's all land about of

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<v Speaker 1>it is uh the dark spots that you see, the Maria, Maria,

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<v Speaker 1>the Maria, and it is the is the terra is

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<v Speaker 1>that terry terry And uh that's the lighter parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the moon that you see. And that's like mountainous, it's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy steep mountains, craters, all kinds of things there on

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<v Speaker 1>the terrat. Well yeah, because um, the Earth, the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>was about four billion years ago, there were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of meteorites bombarding this neck of the Solar system, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Earth took as many as the Moon, if

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<v Speaker 1>not more. It still happens today every day meteorites at

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth, but our atmosphere burns most of them up,

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<v Speaker 1>and the ones that made it through the atmosphere and

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<v Speaker 1>had made a substantial impact on the Earth um have

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<v Speaker 1>been largely covered over by the biogeochemical processes that take

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<v Speaker 1>place on Earth. The Moon is utterly devoided these things

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<v Speaker 1>these days, and has been for about the last three

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<v Speaker 1>billion years. So just about anything that's happened over the

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<v Speaker 1>last three billion years, right, is just a few meteorite.

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<v Speaker 1>It's some impacts here there, but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon's surface was shaped and about four billion to

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<v Speaker 1>three billion years ago, and it's remained the same ever

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<v Speaker 1>since then. In addition, they think there were volcanoes at

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<v Speaker 1>one point on the Moon because they noticed rills like

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<v Speaker 1>these channel channel like depressions that they think was from lava.

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<v Speaker 1>They found old lava flows and lava tubes. So they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>looks like there were some volcanoes here at one point. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that accounts for a lot of stuff on the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>but also some of its composition as well. No soil, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it has something called regules, and regula means basically like

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<v Speaker 1>blanket over solid rock. Right. So, um, it's really just

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of fine particulate dust moon dust with vault

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<v Speaker 1>mixed with volcanic glass and then larger rocks and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just covers the surface of the Moon. It doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>soil because it doesn't have any living organisms that are

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<v Speaker 1>required make soil. Yeah, nothing organic on the Moon, correct. Yeah. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>So they brought back these rocks. They found out that

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<v Speaker 1>the uh Maria, which is what we said was only

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<v Speaker 1>the dark spots, was primary. Uh that primarily that one

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<v Speaker 1>word that we said over and over on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>what basalt, Yeah, buzzled and uh that is igneous rock

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<v Speaker 1>from cooled lava. So again with the volcanoes and the

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<v Speaker 1>highland regions, the mountain regions we talked about was mainly

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<v Speaker 1>in north the site and Breccia. Yeah, did you look

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<v Speaker 1>that on it? I did. Because when there's a C

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<v Speaker 1>I C a in Italian that makes a chess sound,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's c H makes a sound, So it's backwards

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<v Speaker 1>from what we might think as Americans, pretty neat but

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<v Speaker 1>correct if you're into in Italian that's right. What else, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>The lunar rocks have very little in volatile compounds, so

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<v Speaker 1>they resembled Ers's mantle. They have very little volatile compounds

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<v Speaker 1>or water. And then Tracy puts in as if they've

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<v Speaker 1>been baked a little bit of like foreshadowing. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>also check they found that the Highland areas are much older.

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<v Speaker 1>The rocks in the Highland areas are much older than

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<v Speaker 1>the um Maria areas. Right. And so now with all

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<v Speaker 1>of this information, we have a pretty good idea of

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<v Speaker 1>how the Moon formed. Yeah. Oh, they also had they

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<v Speaker 1>they had some size size seismometers and they found that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no there's no shifting of the plates going on, right,

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<v Speaker 1>tectonic activity in the Moon. There are no moon quakes

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<v Speaker 1>and um. They also used magnetometers and they did not

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<v Speaker 1>detect any substantial magnetic field at the around the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that it's not it doesn't have a substantial

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<v Speaker 1>iron core. Right, so they're basically just trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how much is it like the Earth in some ways,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they one to found out what it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were kind of comparing because some of the

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<v Speaker 1>old previously thought reasons why the Moon was there had

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it literally spinning off of the Earth. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's significant that moon rocks are similar in composition to

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<v Speaker 1>mantle rocks found on Earth pretty close, um, which means

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of people that they're the the The

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<v Speaker 1>Moon has always been connected to the Earth and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people's minds, right, So there's different ways that

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<v Speaker 1>it formed, but it's always in relation to the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>almost except for one. Yes, So previously to the to

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<v Speaker 1>the lunar landing, they had a few ideas. They thought

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there was the double planet hypothesis, which was the

0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Earth and Moon formed together. Yeah, because remember in the

0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Asteroid Mining podcast we talked about the formation of planets.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that starts in this Uh, it starts spinning

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<v Speaker 1>and then everything's kind of comes together. It's an easy

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<v Speaker 1>way to say it. Uh. The capture hypothesis was the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth's gravity captured the own as it was just cruising by.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only one where they weren't related. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth said hey, we're gonna hold you captive now because

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<v Speaker 1>we like your gentle light that you cast upon its

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<v Speaker 1>At nighttime. And then the fission hypothesis, which was the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth spun so much and so rapidly that a blob

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<v Speaker 1>of molten earth spun off and that was the moon. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds a little even in the sixties, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have been like, really, well, I mean, think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's if it's forming and everything is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>loose still, I guess we didn't know as much back then. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So all of these have been kind of shot down, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. Um. The fact that the the Moon and

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth's compositions are not the same means that they

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<v Speaker 1>probably didn't form right alongside one another because they should

0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:54.080
<v Speaker 1>be pretty much the same material. Um. The Earth can't

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<v Speaker 1>possibly capture something as large as the moon as the

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<v Speaker 1>moon and keep it there. Um. And then lastly, chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth has never been known to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>spin fast enough to spin any part of it off.

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<v Speaker 1>If it were, we would be the first things off

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<v Speaker 1>of the Earth if it could spin that fast anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone a sizeable chunk. So what they think now

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<v Speaker 1>is um. After the seventies they came up with this

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<v Speaker 1>thing called the giant impact or theory. Yeah, that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>standing up fairly well. Right, so, yeah, it's this idea

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<v Speaker 1>that another planet or planetoid or something about the size

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<v Speaker 1>of Mars, early in the Earth's formation, came along and

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<v Speaker 1>collided with the Earth with such force that it was

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<v Speaker 1>absorbed into the Earth. It broke off a chunk, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that part filled in the part that was was

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<v Speaker 1>chunked off. It's like, um, what are the what are

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<v Speaker 1>those twins where one eats the other in the womb called?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's kind of like that, I mean twins.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like the Earth has like another planet that

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<v Speaker 1>really just looks like a taratoma with fingernails their teeth

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<v Speaker 1>inside of it. Yes, and that one, that one is

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<v Speaker 1>actually held up. They've done computer simulations and they said

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<v Speaker 1>this could have happened. Well, we left out the most

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<v Speaker 1>important part from that impact. It's shot out a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff that formed into the Moon. Yes, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was very hot obviously, and then and it cooled eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why the rocks appear to have been baked.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the foreshadowing, right. Um So the idea behind this,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, it's still it stood up. That's enjoys

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<v Speaker 1>the majority opinion, right. Um So, after this impact. As

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<v Speaker 1>the as the Moon's spinning and forming itself into a spheroid. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's covered in this ocean of magma, right, And this

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<v Speaker 1>ocean of magma starts too cool and inside the cores

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<v Speaker 1>solid outside magma, it starts to cool and everything kind

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<v Speaker 1>of switches. The outside becomes solid, the inside magma and

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<v Speaker 1>then um. After a while, the there's this period of

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<v Speaker 1>um bombardment that I talked about of meteorites in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>It forms all of the highlands, the craters, um. Almost

0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.720
<v Speaker 1>every feature on the surface of the Moon is formed

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<v Speaker 1>during this bombardment period when the lava's eking out through

0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the cracks from that came after that. So this at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, the Moon has a molten core, a solid

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<v Speaker 1>exterior um, and it's being bombarded with meteorites. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the stuff that that we see today happen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three point nine billion years ago. Then after that period,

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<v Speaker 1>the there's a period of volcanic activity all over the

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<v Speaker 1>So that's when it's leaking up through the cracks, and

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<v Speaker 1>it leaks up through the cracks in the Maria areas, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which explains why there's more craters on the Highlands than

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<v Speaker 1>in the Maria because the craters were covered over by

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<v Speaker 1>this basult, which is so so prevalent in these areas. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes a lot of sense actually, And and then lastly,

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<v Speaker 1>the volcanic activity expelled all of the heat in the moon,

0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.600
<v Speaker 1>turning it into a dead, lifeless hulk that we know

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<v Speaker 1>and love today. Well that sounds sad, but I love

0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.359
<v Speaker 1>it in its current state, so I'm actually happy about it. Okay,

0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.840
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about it and it's current state, Chuck.

0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Here's so, there's the moon that's right there. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>it got there, right, that's kind of cool, Like you

0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.639
<v Speaker 1>didn't know that before. I didn't until we researched this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So in its current state, Chuck, it's in

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<v Speaker 1>this um orbit around Earth. It doesn't spin on its axis,

0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:40.439
<v Speaker 1>and it's basically dragged along like you know a wheel

0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that's stuck. You can still drag it across the ground.

0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.840
<v Speaker 1>It's just not spinning. This is much the same way,

0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.359
<v Speaker 1>but rather than in a in a vertical orientation, this

0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.800
<v Speaker 1>is horizontal that the moon is not spinning and a

0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:58.760
<v Speaker 1>horizontal axis it's being dragged around. And so that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we only see the ones of the moon. The same

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<v Speaker 1>side of the moon all the time, the happy side

0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.199
<v Speaker 1>inside with the cheese. Well we wouldn't know if the

0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.560
<v Speaker 1>other side is happier. Well, that's the dark side. This

0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:13.399
<v Speaker 1>is scary side. Asked that crashed lunar rover or not

0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:18.560
<v Speaker 1>rover but orbiter, orbiter two, orbiter two. So you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the twenty nine it's the twenty nine point five

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<v Speaker 1>days or is it just twenty nine it's my understanding

0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:27.840
<v Speaker 1>that it's twenty nine point five. Okay, that's what I thought. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it is between the Earth and the Sun. Sometimes

0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.240
<v Speaker 1>it's behind us. So what we're talking about here is

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<v Speaker 1>the moon phases. That's why you'll see the crescent moon

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<v Speaker 1>or the half moon or the full moon. Different parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the moon are lit up by the Sun depending

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<v Speaker 1>on where it is in relation to the Earth. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty simple. Yeah, and NTO yeah. Uh. And when it's

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<v Speaker 1>lit up and when it's not lit up, there's a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>huge difference in temperature. What was that? Was it a

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<v Speaker 1>future rama? It was a future rama where they had

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<v Speaker 1>to it back to their transport before the horizon line,

0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.240
<v Speaker 1>the point where the sun was you know, hitting the

0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.360
<v Speaker 1>moon got to them where also is just gonna vaporize

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<v Speaker 1>them because the difference in temperature, the mean temperature in

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<v Speaker 1>the shadow of the moon, if I may, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you like stats, please, the mean temperature in the shadow

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<v Speaker 1>of the moon is negative two hundred ninety two degrees fahrenheight.

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<v Speaker 1>Temperature negative a hundred and eighty degrees celsius in the sunlight, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>the mean, the mean, This is the one that's the average, right,

0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:36.560
<v Speaker 1>there's the median average. You could say that the mean

0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.679
<v Speaker 1>surface temperature in the sunlight is two hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six degrees fahrenheights. That's a hundred and thirty degrees celsius,

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<v Speaker 1>so quite a different. So yeah, there's like a six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred degree difference. That's the power of the sun, my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>which we've gone over in detail. So over these billions

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<v Speaker 1>of years, a couple of changes have happened to the Moon. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's moved a little further away from the Earth, and

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:05.159
<v Speaker 1>it's rotation has slowed some over the years, which you

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<v Speaker 1>know that doesn't mean anything to me right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth pointing out. Okay, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>did you talk about the different phases like the did

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<v Speaker 1>the waning and the waxing and all that. Uh, well

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't govert in that much detail. Now, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always just enjoyed this, right, So do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what they call a moon that's growing toward full moon

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<v Speaker 1>and is almost full. Uh, that's waxing give us, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So remember that one it's going on its way toward

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<v Speaker 1>a full moon and it's there's more moon present than

0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 1>there isn't there's a waxing GiB us. And then do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it's called when it's going toward a

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<v Speaker 1>new moon and it's a thin little sliver, Uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>waning crescent. Yes, if you remember waning crescent and waxing,

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.720
<v Speaker 1>give us, you can name any phase of the moon

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<v Speaker 1>just by looking at it and impress your friend that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>because you also have the waxing crescent, first quarter, a

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<v Speaker 1>waning give us last quarter, and everyone's favorite, the full moon. Yeah,

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the full moon's that's the money moon. Sure, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know people say that things go wacky at full moon's

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that we found that that is largely

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<v Speaker 1>just stories and it's not necessarily been proven. Like emergency

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.240
<v Speaker 1>medical emergency rooms are supposed to be like wacky and

0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:27.080
<v Speaker 1>people go crazy and in the full moon and where

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<v Speaker 1>wolves coming backed up though by by numbers. Tracy said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. Um, where did you see that? It was

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in here? I didn't see it. Well, it's in there,

0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:39.199
<v Speaker 1>or maybe I saw it somewhere else. Yeah, but they

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<v Speaker 1>said it's it's pretty much anecdotal. But I thought I

0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 1>had seen that too where it was backed up by numbers. Well,

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.960
<v Speaker 1>there is, there's another um, there's a I guess if

0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:50.240
<v Speaker 1>you're a skeptic, it's a crackpot theory. But there's a

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:54.439
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people who believe in the concept of

0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the super moon. Have you heard about that? That sounds familiar.

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:01.480
<v Speaker 1>So the moon travel, it's orbit around the Earth is

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<v Speaker 1>not a perfect circle. It's in the lips. So that

0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.640
<v Speaker 1>means that there are points where it's as far as

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it can be away from the Earth and as close

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<v Speaker 1>as it can be. So as close as it can

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<v Speaker 1>be as called paragy and as far away is called

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:17.879
<v Speaker 1>apog and it hits these once a month each right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not unusual for the Moon to be impared

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<v Speaker 1>your apogee, and normally when it is, it just means

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<v Speaker 1>that the tides are higher and lower, and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about tides in a minute. It's right, but um, if

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.400
<v Speaker 1>it's in a full moon and it's a parady, which

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:35.360
<v Speaker 1>means that there's more exposed right to the sunlight, which

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 1>really doesn't mean anything, but it's closer. Okay, Um, Supposedly

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 1>what this happens like once every nineteen years. Supposedly that's

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 1>linked to all sorts of destructive stuff on Earth, like

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.639
<v Speaker 1>earthquakes and floods and things like that. And you can

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>go back and say, oh, well the moon there is

0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 1>a super moon in nineteen The last one was March nineteen,

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eleven. March eleventh, two thou eleven was

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<v Speaker 1>the Japan quake. So people who believe in the Superman

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 1>say they're see that, like, we can go back and

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.120
<v Speaker 1>find this all the time. And then people who who

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:16.639
<v Speaker 1>poo poo it's say if yeah, you're linking to unrelated phenomena. Yeah,

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 1>that's very interesting, but that's the supermoon. At the very least,

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 1>it sounds very cool. Super anything sounds cool. Um, So Chuck,

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:25.439
<v Speaker 1>I said that we were going to talk about tides,

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and I deliver around my promises. Well, you can't talk

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:32.159
<v Speaker 1>about the Moon without talking about tides. It's true, and Riley,

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned him right. The Moon has a gravitational force.

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>We all know that. And it it pulls on water

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 1>and the oceans. It stretches this water out and forms

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 1>what's called the title bulge on the sides of the

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 1>planet that are in line with the Moon. That's the

0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 1>first part. The moon. Water obviously pulls on the side

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 1>closest to it, which causes the bulge toward the Moon

0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 1>pulls on the Earth a little bit and drags the

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Earth away from the water from the opposite side. And

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 1>there's another another tidal bulge. And uh, the area under

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the bulge. The areas of the Earth under the bulge

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 1>are high tide. The areas on the thin sides are

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 1>low tide. It's mind boggling. Six hours, twelve hours. The

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:22.639
<v Speaker 1>moon pulls tugs on the ocean. It does, tugs on

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.439
<v Speaker 1>the ocean toward it, right, and it even moves the

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Earth a little bit. It does into the ocean a

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>little more. Another way, the Moon actually pulls water. Yeah,

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty impressive it is. Yeah. And then on

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the other side it pulls it away from the water.

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>It pulls the Earth away from where the water is,

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>so that's low tide. And yeah, like you said, that

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<v Speaker 1>happens every six hours, right, Yeah. And the other cool

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 1>thing is it also the moon stabilizes the Earth's rotation.

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:51.239
<v Speaker 1>If it wasn't for the moon, we might end up

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>looking like wobbly top. That's it's starting to slow down, yes,

0:25:56.000 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>like Inception. Yeah, your favorite movie. So, um, you know

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 1>that that top wobbling. Tracy talks about precession. Um where

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 1>because of that that skew to its axis. The angle

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>of its axis. The polar star changes every like fourteen

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 1>thousand years, I think twenty six thousand years. So right now,

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:26.199
<v Speaker 1>Polaris is the north star. Um. The north star in

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 1>three thousand BC was called Theuban. Did you know that? No,

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna get another one and a D fourteen

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>thousand Vega will be the pole star. Huh Are they cool?

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:40.439
<v Speaker 1>That is pretty cool? I hope I'm around to see it.

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know. They're gonna have to be

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>some significant advances in longevity really in the next years. Um,

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 1>so what else do we have a chuck? Well, we've

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 1>got eclipses. If you want to dive into that. What's

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>it's worthy take it? Think? Uh, when the Moon passes

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>between the Sun and the Earth, right, occasionally, you're gonna

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 1>get that exact alignment of the Sun, Moon and Earth,

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 1>and that's a solar eclipse. And I don't know if

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people know this. When you have a

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>solar eclipse that same month, you're gonna have a lunar

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 1>eclipse as well. Yeah, it's like in the bag. In

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the bag, but the moon has to be full, correct, Yeah,

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>when the moon is full, a lunar eclipse will occur

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>in the same month as a solar eclips Yes, you're right, okay,

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:27.679
<v Speaker 1>but for the solar eclipse, it's got to be a

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>new moon, yes, Josh, new new phase only. So when

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.479
<v Speaker 1>you have a lunar eclipse, the moon is new and

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:37.959
<v Speaker 1>it's in line between the Sun and the Earth. And

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>then when it's full fifteen days later, fourteen days later,

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>it's on the other side of the Earth, you're gonna

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>have a lunar And depending on where it goes into

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>the Earth's shadow, either the pin umbra, which is like

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>an angled part of the shadow it's not the full

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:58.880
<v Speaker 1>shadow um or the umbro, which is the full on shadow.

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:01.679
<v Speaker 1>It'll either be a partial or of full eclipse. That's right.

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 1>And kids, remember never staring too a solar eclipse. Right,

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>you can stare at a lunar eclipse all night long

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>if you want to. So we talked about will the

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 1>Moon saved humanity? We talked about lunar bases, and we

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 1>talked about um mining, asteroids and fake moon landing. This

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>is like our fourth Mooney. But I think that there

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>should be required listening because you know, there's there's this

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>there's an idea that there's possibly ice that was missed

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>on the Moon. There's a couple been a couple of

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 1>the Clementine probe found evidence of it, and then a

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 1>more recent one said yeah, that's probably ice right there,

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>which probably a good deal. Well, yeah, it probably got

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>different like comets or something else. But there's ice on

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the Moon, and if there is, then that means that

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>we have water and fuel on the Moon for a

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>moon base, which is very exciting news. It's a lot

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>cheaper apparently too. If you had a moon base to

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 1>send off a rocket from the Moon, then it would

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>be from the Earth. Plus you can be like, I

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>got a moon base and that's just cool. Yeah, it

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>sounds so sixties unless you see the movie Moon and

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't very cool at all. Alright, good moon movies.

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>What you got? Uh? Well Moon? Okay, what else is there?

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Moon raker? Yeah, um paper Moon Moon River it's a song. Yeah, sure,

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I bet there's been a movie called Moon Rivers. I'm

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna do you think you remember the film Breakfast at Tiffany's.

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I love that movie. Well that's one thing we've got. Okay, wow,

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Well the song is that Breakfast that Tiffany's? Is that

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the name of it? By that awful band who I

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>hope doesn't listen to this show. Uh sorry, that was

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>a sidetrack. So um. The reason we mentioned that they

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 1>found what they think might be ice is because that's

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty important because um, President Bush was GungHo to go,

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>uh find out and potentially get on the moon again.

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And Obama came in and in two thousand ten, in

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>February and canceled the constellation program, which I looked into

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>because my first thought was, you know, I'm a big

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>fan of our president, and I thought, well that stinks.

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go back to the Moon, and I

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>think there's there's it's worthy to do so, Oh we will.

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>It'll just be private companies that get there. Exactly. That's

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>what he says, at least as he ordered a review

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and found it to be behind schedule and over budget

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and just not a very lean program. And so hey,

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>let's extend the International Space Station for about five years,

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>give NAS about six billion bucks, and then see if

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>we can get some private companies to start shuttling astronauts

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>up there. Into the private sector. Yeah, so we'll see

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 1>what happens. Neil Armstrong is against that, but Paul's buzz

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>altern is for it. Yeah. I don't know if they're

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>duking it out or it, But well, how do you

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>feel about it? I don't know. I mean I think

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>if the private sector could get involved, and that's that's good.

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 1>That's companies making money. It is. But like I tend

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>to think of like the Moon is a part of

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the commonwealth of humanity, you know, like that, it just

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>seems like you shouldn't you shouldn't apply capitalism to the Moon. Yeah,

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe not, but what you know, China might get there

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>and set up camp and be like no, no, no,

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>China will get there. They are spending a significant amount

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of money, They're building their own international space station. Actually

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>it's just a National Space station because it's just theirs.

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:38.959
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they'll be on the Moon for the National

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Space Station. Yeah, that's uh. I mean, do we have

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>an article on who owns space? I know we have

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>who owns the oceans? We did that, but I mean

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a valid thing. Well, let's find out. What if

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Trya got up there and they're like, this is ours.

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Now you can gotta you can see the moon base?

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 1>All right, we gotta do that. Alright, let's the moon

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>if you want to learn more about the Moon. And seriously,

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>there's some really handy graphs and illustrations in this type

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>in Moon in the search bar at how stuff works

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>dot com and that brings up listener mail hold on

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:20.400
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0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:26.720
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0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:32.760
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0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:47.360
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0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.800
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0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.959
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0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty good answers. It's worth it. It's worth the three

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>or more in Australia, or if it makes you feel better,

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>divide that three ninety nine over the three hundred and

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>forty something shows nothing. That's almost just like a penny

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>of show. Yeah, not even except in Australia, where it's

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna be more like a tough pence of show. Yeah.

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna work that off over the next couple of

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:18.640
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0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:24.440
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0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:28.200
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0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>is pretty good listen to if you ask me. Agreed. Um.

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>And now that we've done this and we did it shamelessly,

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 1>that's right, it's time for listener mail again. Josh, we

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>called for a karma off. Send us your karma stories.

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna read one and uh, this is from a

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 1>dude in a band that I'm actually a fan of. Okay,

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>their name is Fang Island and they're awesome and they're

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>based in Brooklyn, New York now, although they're originally from

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Rhode Island. And Jason Bartel, a Fang Island, wrote in

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and said this, I've been joining the podcast for a while.

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm in a touring band. It's been way too much

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>time in the van, so I welcome the opportunity to

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 1>keep my brain occupied. So thanks. And if people wrote

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>in with lots of karma stories, and if you think

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm just reading this because I'm a fan of this

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>guy's band, then you're right. So I apologize if you

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>think your story was better. Uh. He went to college

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>in Providence, Rhode Island. Was driving home to New Hampshire

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>one holiday weekend and nearing the end of the trip,

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>there's a toll there and I had zero money in

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>my wallet and I was stuck in line. It was

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 1>too late. In hindsight, I was probably overly panicked, because

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>the penalty for not having enough money at a toll

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>in New Hampshire is probably pretty minuscule. Like they probably

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>would have said, don't worry about it. They're really nice

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>up there, you know, Yeah, you've ever been there. I

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>have not been in New Hampshire. But day yea Evermont,

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 1>They're all just like super nice holes. Uh. Nevertheless, I

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>started sweating, my heart was racing. I began scrounging for

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>loose change to no avail. Uh. One long shot scenario

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>that crossed my mind was maybe the car in front

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>of me would pay for me for some reason. But

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I dismissed it, so I barely knew that I had

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>even thought it. But when it came time for me

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>to face the music, it turns out this is exactly

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>what happened. The operator said the car in front of

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>me covered my fare and said to have a nice day.

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I was stunned. I have no idea still why they

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>paid for me, even sped up alongside them to give

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>him a thank you and wave my gun in and

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>tell him pull over. They want to ask them, but

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>they never acknowledged me. Normally, it would be stone cold

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.320
<v Speaker 1>case of luck, except that I've actually done this before

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.800
<v Speaker 1>for other people in the past. When I felt randomly charitable,

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I realized this is probably the very definition of the

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.800
<v Speaker 1>simplified New Age interpretation of karma that you were talking about.

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>But I was destruck by the almost cute one to

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>one ratio of this particular karmic transaction, and that is

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Jason Bartel of Fang Island, who is a great band.

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:55.919
<v Speaker 1>They got a eight point three review on their debut

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 1>album on Pitchfork, which is really Pitchfork. They're not kind

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>the bands usually, well that's not true. They they review

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:05.879
<v Speaker 1>how they review, but at eight point three is good.

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:08.879
<v Speaker 1>They're not sick of fans. They are not. They will

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>they will trash your record if they don't like it.

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.439
<v Speaker 1>So they're they're awesome, and go see them. They're on tour.

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 1>I think said they might be come through Atlanta as

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>false maybe if you want to say saying them again

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Bang Island. Okay. They opened up for Flaming Lips a

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>lot on this last tour, so that should tell you

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.359
<v Speaker 1>something about their Their sound very cool, but they sound

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:29.359
<v Speaker 1>like the Flaming Lips there, No, I mean a lot

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>of it's instrumental. I mean they're just insanely talented and uh,

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:38.240
<v Speaker 1>their self described sound is quote everyone high fiving everyone,

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and he's kind of right. It sounds like how I

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>would describe the Go Team. Uh. Yeah, they have been

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>compared to them, although this is like a three guitar onslaught,

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's like happy music. It's not like Explosions in

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the Sky. Got type of instrumental stuff, and they got

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 1>words too. It's just not like the first course type

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 1>of songs. They clients and scissors very unique. Goodness me,

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>that was a plug and a half. Well, if you

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>have a band that you think Chuck likes, he wants

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>to hear about it. I really do. Actually I don't like, Like,

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.399
<v Speaker 1>what if one of my heroes listens to the show

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 1>and I'll never know? Or what if it's a new

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:21.760
<v Speaker 1>band that you've never heard of yet? Well, that too, Okay,

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you should contact Chuck like David Bowie. What if he

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>listens David Bowie does not listen. You're right. You can

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:32.280
<v Speaker 1>contact Chuck and me. We're both on the same email address.

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:36.280
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