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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of My Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They called

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Speaker 1: me Ben. We are joined as always with our super

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Speaker 1: producer Paul Mission controlled decades. Most importantly, you are you.

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Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they

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Speaker 1: don't want you to know. Uh, shine bright like a diamond.

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Speaker 1: As I believe Rihanna said, we wanted to do a

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Speaker 1: fun one today, or at least I really did, especially

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Speaker 1: because we have some dark water ahead. So here we go,

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Speaker 1: no fooling. If you read the title, today's episode is

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Speaker 1: about glitter. Seriously, glittery water perhaps ahead as well. Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: glittery water before we get to the dark stuff, uh

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Speaker 1: towards the end of the year. Look, you know, some

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Speaker 1: people love glitter, some people hate it. But every single

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Speaker 1: when we say glitter. This shiny stuff has also been

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Speaker 1: the word insidious, with which I agree. It seems to

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Speaker 1: get everywhere, even when you don't want it to. Glitter

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Speaker 1: does not care about your consent. It doesn't care what

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Speaker 1: because the weather has changed. Uh. You know the full disclosure,

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Speaker 1: So first things first, here the facts. Riddle me this.

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Speaker 1: What what is glitter? What? What is it? Star dust?

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Speaker 1: Start pixieotogical star dust? It's created by the Faye people,

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Speaker 1: polyethylene tariff tholate, Yes, nailed it. Now, Aluminum metalized polyethylene

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Speaker 1: What you do is you take aluminum and you evaporate

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Speaker 1: All sorts of stuff was used. Malachite, hammatite, crushed beetles,

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Speaker 1: to the modern day, there's not just one glitter. There

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Speaker 1: just kind of, you know, gone down the line. Uh.

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00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: And then the other one is called glitter X. Glitter

424
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: X not like SpaceX. It's like glitter e X. It's

425
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: like one word right right, like you have a glittery X. Uh.

426
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: So glitter X is the younger of the two companies,

427
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: founded in nineteen sixty three. Both companies are weirdly secret

428
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: about some things. This might surprise a lot of us

429
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: in the audience today because I think many people tend

430
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: to associate glitter with lighthearted, if occasionally annoying fun. Glitter

431
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: X is little willy wonka about their process, not as

432
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: much as Meadowbrook, but they don't want people on the

433
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: outside to see how glitter is made, including their clients.

434
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: They also don't reveal the names of those clients, and

435
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: per the leadership of glitter X, that is a request

436
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: of the clients themselves. We do know Revlon consented to

437
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: be identified as a glitter X customer, and this this

438
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: prompts me to float our very first theory out here.

439
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pitch it to you, guys. Fairies are real.

440
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: Pixie dust is a thing. These companies are grinding up

441
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: the bodies of fairies and selling those parts in tiny,

442
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: tiny parcels. Yeah, okay, cool, Okay, I'm not buying it.

443
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: Ben it. Wow. Okay. Well, if we're talking about Revlon

444
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: and we know that glitter is like not good to

445
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: be consumed or inhaled or whatever, I would think their

446
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: use would be having it be suspended in some lip

447
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: gloss or cosmetic of some kind, which I guess if

448
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: it's on your eye, you're not the chances of you

449
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: eating it are inhaling it are very unlikely. You're not

450
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: gonna absorb it through your skin. But is it that

451
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: kind of stuff for like a like an eyeshadow or

452
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: something like that. Definitely not a lip class because you'd

453
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: be looking on your lips and then you would likely

454
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: consume him. I think for many people, if we're talking

455
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: about the sparkling genre of glitter, it's pretty apparent when

456
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: you see something glittering, right, humans are prime uh hardwired

457
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: to identify it. So you see paint on a car

458
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: or a boat, you can tell that it's shiny, right, uh.

459
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: You see maybe some makeup of some sort, maybe nice

460
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: shadow to that point, and you can tell it is

461
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: shiny for some reason. This this is part of the mystery,

462
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: right does a company wants people to know that they

463
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: have glitter? Well? Glitter X claims that, uh, the reason

464
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: they are so uptight or so close to the chest

465
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: about who is buying all this stuff they make is

466
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: due to the demands of the clients themselves. And I

467
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: think this is understandable. So companies don't want other competitors

468
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: in their industry to know what glitter is in their

469
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: products because it's uh, it's insider info, and it can

470
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: help your competitor make something very close to or closer

471
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: to your own unique project. And this is where we

472
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: get to one of the most fun parts of this

473
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: article by Katie Weaver. Credit where it's due. Katie Weaver,

474
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: the journalist who investigates this story, has a beautiful moment

475
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: that I suggest we do as a dramatic reenactment between

476
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: her and Lauren Dyer, who is a manager at glitter

477
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: x at the time. Who wants who wants to play Weaver?

478
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: Who wants to play Dire? Oh deal, It's choice. I

479
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: love us exchange though it is so bizarrely kg it

480
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: makes no sense? Could I be dire? Is that a

481
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: totally not you're feeling. You feel we've arresque. Thanks so

482
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: much for taking the time to speak with me, miss Dyer.

483
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: That's not part of the just like to have this

484
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: conversations mainly, you know, just here to to to shed

485
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: a little light, you know. I really thank you, Yeah,

486
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: a very sparkly light. And I love what you do.

487
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: I love I love your your company. Um, and I

488
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: love the things it's it's it's one of my favorite things. Um.

489
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: So can you tell me which industry is your biggest market?

490
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: Oh god no, no, absolutely no, no, I can't. I

491
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: know who it is, but I cannot. I cannot divulge

492
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: that information. Okay, but you know what industry is your

493
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: biggest market? Uh huh oh yeah, and you would never

494
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: guess never. Let's just leave it at that. Well, why

495
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: can't you tell me because they don't want anyone to know.

496
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: Dont dont that it's glitter well and well done, folks.

497
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: Uh what is this it? What is this? Oh? My god?

498
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean editorialized a little, but that is the basis

499
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: of the conversation. DIYer goes on to say, um, she

500
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: seems tickled to know a secret. She also goes on

501
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: to almost reveal more than she meant to. There's definitely

502
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: an I've said too much moments there when when we

503
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: were asked at yeah, but I really can't tell you,

504
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: which is just weird. It's like why even go there.

505
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess her. You know, a PR person's

506
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: job is to sort of be the human face of

507
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: like a monolithic company, and that's what this person is doing. Okay,

508
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: job at sort of making a little bit of a

509
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: joke about it. But then ultimately just like there's a

510
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: line that they are not willing to cross, and that

511
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: line becomes very especially if it's a client demand, right

512
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: you you have you might have some hard lines, some

513
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: bright lines that you cannot cross, even if you don't

514
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: think it's a big deal. This happens all the time

515
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: when businesses work together. So without official confirmation from either

516
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: glitter X or Meadowbrook, which is somehow again even more

517
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: tight lipped, we are left with some intriguing theories. First,

518
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: we have to consider it appears to be a request

519
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: of the clients. Companies out there don't want to be

520
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: identified as glitter consumers, and this is just this could

521
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: just be a specific manufacturer something that obviously have glitter

522
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: elements in it, doesn't want their competitors to get the

523
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: inside info. And then maybe, for instance, just freestyling here,

524
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: maybe they buy up all the glitter, right, and now

525
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: you you have lost a key component of one of

526
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: your product ingredients. But the most intriguing question is something

527
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: else is there or some industry that uses glitter in

528
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: a way the consumers or the public wouldn't like. For example,

529
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: boat paint has been proposed as like as some sort

530
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 1: of hidden buyer of glitter, but it's probably not. Actually,

531
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, it's definitely not the biggest consumer. Honestly,

532
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: most people also wouldn't care, nor would they be especially

533
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: surprised to learn there was glitter and paint. Well, certainly

534
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: we've seen you know, candy paint that they call that,

535
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: you know, in certain types of cars um that that

536
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: are that have clearly some sort of suspended shiny you know,

537
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: kind of like substance in them. You know, I mean,

538
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: that's not that surprising that that's the thing that we

539
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 1: already know glitter is bad for the environment. So it's

540
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: like to go a step further and be like, no,

541
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: we don't want anyone to know that we're using glitter.

542
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: Is it because it's a bad look? Is it a

543
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: trade secret? Like? What is it? I don't get it.

544
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 1: I think that's the big question here. And it does

545
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: feel as though it sounds like an n d A

546
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: thing to me, like it's a trade secret, and and

547
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: maybe it's not as nefarious as we think it might be.

548
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: Or well, let's keep going. I want to get to

549
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: the speculation section. We're really just diving into our pet

550
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: theories about what it is. And last thing for me

551
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: really quickly, like even with like a trade secret, like

552
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: a Coca Cola recipe or something like that, you'll have

553
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: certain ingredients that are on the list on the back,

554
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: and you'll have like a number of calories. But then

555
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: there'll be some little vague part in the description of

556
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: the ingredients that will be like special herbs and spices

557
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. But usually you kind of

558
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: know what category of material you're dealing with, you know

559
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like this seems to go beyond that

560
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: in an intriguing and kind of scary To answer that

561
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: earlier supposition, it is likely a a mixed melonge of

562
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: multiple considerations. What we're gonna do now is pause for

563
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: a word from our sponsor, and to your suggestion, Matt,

564
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: we're going to dive into some of the uh wilder speculation.

565
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: We're entering rabbit hole country. We have a return sparkling, shiny,

566
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: uh shiny and chrome uh. The wilder speculation goes through

567
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: a number of different things. One of my favorite that

568
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: I feel is disturbingly plausible goes to the military industrial

569
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: complex and law enforcement. Let's just rip that band aid off.

570
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: Here's our big reveal. What about bombs? What about explosives?

571
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: This can be a way to track an explosion. It's

572
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: kind of similar to a thing that KGB did during

573
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: the Cold War. They would use this uh substance that

574
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: had the street name spy dust, and would use this

575
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: to trace American agents who are behind the curtain, behind

576
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: the Iron curtain. And it's some versions of it show

577
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: up an ultraviolet light, but you would never know it

578
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: could be used to track you. If you got dusted,

579
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: you would not you would not immediately clock it the

580
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: same way an unfortunate victim of of of a crime

581
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: mighty powdered glass mm hmm. And one of the things

582
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: that that spokesperson for Glitter X was willing to say

583
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: was that it's used sometimes in like animal feed so

584
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: that they can like track it in their poop. That

585
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: was a weird one, Like like, that's very interesting, and

586
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: that sort of speaks to this, like the indestructibility of glitter,

587
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: which is fascinating to me. Like it it cannot be.

588
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: It's like neither created nor destroy I mean, it's certainly created,

589
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: but once it exists, it's just there and then it

590
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: will it will leave a trail, you know, wherever it

591
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: ends up, and so you can use that to say, Okay,

592
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: this is where the thing went. And I think this

593
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: is incredibly important, like going back to military uses, law

594
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: enforcement uses, forensic uses. Uh, there's something people need to

595
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: know about. They're called micro tagg iNTS. Micro tagg Ins

596
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: are a multilayered tiny micro glitter thing added to commercial explosives.

597
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: This means that if somewhere, if someone were to, say,

598
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: use dynamite in the commission of a crime, they could

599
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: unknowingly leave evidence behind. And you don't need a ton

600
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: of sophisticated gear to detect these things, Like a serviceable

601
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: microscope will help you if you know what you're looking for.

602
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: This um persistence of glitter is something forensic investigators love

603
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: the same reason a lot of people hate it. It

604
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: establishes a great trace in fact, in real life, not

605
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: some Law and Order episode. In real life, glitter has

606
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: been used multiple times as evidence to help seal the

607
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: deal on criminal investigations. And so it's a really interesting

608
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: concept because, as we said, there are over twenty thousand

609
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: different types of glitter, right, And if you're let's say

610
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: you're manufacturing explosives and you put a different kind of

611
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: glitter in every batch of explosive that you put out,

612
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: being able to then track that stuff, that's a that's

613
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: a really it's a great idea. It's like ballistics, you know,

614
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: or it's like a way of like understanding where the

615
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: bullet was manufactured once you've pulled it out of the

616
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: wall or whatever. What kind of like rifling is on

617
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: the barrel of the gun, like these like certain little

618
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: kind of like indicators. Yes, but now imagine if you

619
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: take that out a little further and you think about warheads,

620
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: explosives that are used in missiles that are fired, bombs

621
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: that are dropped, maybe a grenade that goes off somewhere,

622
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: or even a flash bang or something like that that's

623
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: used by law enforcement. If you if you start associating

624
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: glitter with all of those things that can maim, that

625
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: can cause death, that can you know, be used as

626
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: a you know, a power of the state for control.

627
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: You may not think about glitter at the Elton John

628
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: Farewell concert in the same way. Right, It's not as

629
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: exciting anymore. It's not as fun anymore. It's like, oh, yeah,

630
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: so I can imagine why explosive manufacturers wouldn't want anybody

631
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: to know that they use a lot of good point.

632
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: Oh that's the reason, you're Yes, there's another reason though,

633
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: and it's the same as market competition. You wouldn't want

634
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: somebody to be able to mimic you're using, Yeah, mimic

635
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: your work, because then you could say, set up a

636
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: false flag pretty easily. It definitely makes it easier than

637
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: it would have been. So this is real, Like it's

638
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: the I know, I know there was some skepticism in

639
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: our group when I was like hyping up this glitter thing,

640
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: and I said, we got to talk about it. But

641
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: I hope we're delivering here, folks. Uh, there's another weird thing.

642
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: We gotta tell you this. This one made no sense

643
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: to me. First, what if what if glitter? What if

644
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: the primary consumers of glitter are using it to make sand?

645
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: Full disclosure, We're kind of walking out of our way

646
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: here to hip you to some weird sand facts. Don't

647
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: let the Sahara fool you didn't know this until recently.

648
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: Earth is slowly running out of sand. I know, I know,

649
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: Earth has been in a fire sale for a while,

650
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: and it was running out of all sorts of stuff.

651
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: What was it, matt helium running out or hydrogen? It's

652
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: helium running out of that stuff. Uh. People are concerned

653
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: about potable or drinkable water, fertilizing fertilizer as well. Right,

654
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: sand is uh the second most consumed natural resource on

655
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: the planet. Number one is water. Number two, as weird

656
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 1: as it sounds, is sand. So what if it makes sense?

657
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: I mean you sand to make glass first of all? Yeah,

658
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: use sand to make uh you know, sandboxes, that's one.

659
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: Sand castles, um? Yeah, sand dunes are I mean no,

660
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: But seriously, sand is a manufacturing um. It's an important

661
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: manufacturing component. Use it to lubricate things, you know what

662
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: I mean, like in the industrial situation, to make things

663
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: slide off the line. Easier or not stick, you know,

664
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean things like it's in masonry of course. Yeah.

665
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: Uh So the idea in this theories that glitter could

666
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: be used as a component to sand. Honestly, this argument

667
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: is kind of spitballing, just in my opinion. This is

668
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: again our excuse to talk about sand facts. But but

669
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: there's something else. That's something that we want to thank

670
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: a redditor for a redditor named Whooping Willow. We do

671
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: not know Whoops, but uh but I feel like we're

672
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: familiar enough to call you that. I hope. I hope

673
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: that feels good. I hope that's nickname you like, uh,

674
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: tip of the badger bags you Whoops because you or

675
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: we can call you w W. You built an intriguing

676
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: case for, of all things, the food and beverage industry.

677
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: So let's walk through this. Let's see what we think.

678
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: Whoops is building an argument that the primary secret consumer

679
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: of glitter is the food and beverage industry. Okay, guys,

680
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: hold on before we do that, and we're going to

681
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: get to that. So it's obviously a play on weeping Willow. Right,

682
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: I think do you think it's a whipping crane? It

683
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: could be like but it's like whooping, like a switch

684
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 1: getting from getting getting kicked. Yeah, well like yeah, getting

685
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: you're getting you're getting a whooping. I think couldn't that

686
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: be w h U P P I N until I

687
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: think it's a colloquial I think it depends on where

688
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: what part of the global what different people are talking

689
00:43:54,719 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: about whooping? Uh? If they're not from eighteen hundreds, uh,

690
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: Western Europe, then they're not going to have the g,

691
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: the hard g at the end. That's a little too

692
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: what you guys like, who I hope you like it now.

693
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: Whoops is great, but I think whooping cough or whooping

694
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: crane it's Look, the fact that we've talked about it

695
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: for this long implies that there's a lot of great

696
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: hidden meaning in this reddit handle. So kudos to you.

697
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: But what what what did this individual assemble? Right? Whoop? Whoop? Alright? So, uh,

698
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: Whoops says, look at this, let's uh, we already know

699
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: that glitter X isn't gonna spill the beans or toss

700
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: their confetti or whatever. So Whoops looks at meadow Brook

701
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: and says this website and we confirm this. You can

702
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: check this website today if you like. Uh, their website

703
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: has nine primary applications for glitter, cosmetic, adhesive, fashion, floral, reading, card, fiberglass, craft, printing,

704
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: and errors all and then they list the different types

705
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: of glitter, which are all pretty much what you would expect,

706
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: including biodegradable. This is what wholps finds interesting. Meadowbrook does

707
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: sell biodegradable glitter, but doesn't list food or drink as

708
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: an application. That's true. Also, if you go to the

709
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: page what's called like the color card for biodegradable glitter

710
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: and specific, you will see that the website list the

711
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: names and phone numbers for sales inquiries. And this is

712
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: the only part of the site that lists those specific

713
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: contact numbers that contact information the email and stuff. So

714
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 1: if biodegradable glitter as a thing, why not make all

715
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: glitter biodegradable? Does it limit you in your color palette?

716
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: Is it less fun? Inherently? I don't I don't get it, Like,

717
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: why why why are people still making non biodegradable glitter,

718
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: knowing what we know about how long it takes for

719
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: glitter to biodegrade and how horrible microplastics are for the environment,

720
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: less cost effective perhaps at an economy of scale that

721
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: would be one of the first guess is right, probably

722
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: more expensive. Yeah, so this isn't water tight proof. But

723
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: it had Whoops wondering, Uh, it had Whoops wondering whether

724
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: this was because this specific reach out was because food

725
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: manufacturers didn't want to be on the books putting their

726
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: information on a website. They wanted to just call you know,

727
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: Johnny Glitters and get there, get the glitter added to

728
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: this cereal. I don't know if I mean this is interesting.

729
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: Whoops has other stuff they mentioned, like there are a

730
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: lot of flavor and fragrance companies in New Jersey. New

731
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: Jersey has three times the national average of employment in

732
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: those into trees in particular. But there's one thing we

733
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: have to point out. Biodegradable glitter is not the same

734
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: as food safe glitter. Necessarily, they should not be conflated.

735
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: There is edible glitter that's used in like cake making

736
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: and like you know, cocktails and stuff. It's it's like

737
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: called edible glitter, and it is again, it doesn't come

738
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: in as many varieties of of of of shapes and

739
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: sizes and you know colors, but it is a thing

740
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: and it's a very different manufacturing process. I'm just thinking

741
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: about all the things I look at that are shiny,

742
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: and uh, I happen to have a twenty dollar bill here.

743
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: I'm a big deal. I'm a big deal. Okay, I'm

744
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: looking at this thing and I can't tell if it's

745
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: really shiny or if my mind is telling me that

746
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: it's shiny in this moment because I'm looking for it.

747
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: You know, if I've got some raphic bits, the plastic

748
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: key type bits. So what we're talking there's a little

749
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: on a twenty, at least the newer versions of a twenty.

750
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: There's a gold bits part the bottom here that looks shiny,

751
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: but it doesn't look like glitter necessarily metallic flake of

752
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: some kinds, but the whole thing has like a sheen

753
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: to What about the security strip that because if it's

754
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: a if it's a twenty, it's a high enough denomination

755
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: that security strip. I can teach you how to take

756
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: the teach you how to take him out if you want.

757
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: It won't be very healthful the tweezer, I believe you

758
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: could just go in the side you want a closer look.

759
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: So but yeah, yeah, the currency maybe using something like this,

760
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: of course paint, but paint is not super surprising. If

761
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: it's not the food industry, Yeah, then what could it be? Uh,

762
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: this wolves makes a very compelling case for thinking about this.

763
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: Um Could it be that cosmetic manufacturers don't want customers

764
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: to know that various top tier exfoliants or whatever, or

765
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: just basically glitter a little bit of snake oil or

766
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: panacea to make or placebo rather to make you make

767
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: you feel like it's worth it to pay fifty dollars

768
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: a bottle. Maybe, but those have to pass f d

769
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: A you know tests, and I don't think the FDA

770
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: would give a pass to something that had something that

771
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: carcinogenic in it. Exfoliants are usually like pummus or some

772
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: kind of you know, organic material, and they have to

773
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: pass some level of rigor with with the FDA. So

774
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that I necessarily believe that. Yeah, I'm

775
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: still on the fence myself, because there are other things

776
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: that we have to consider. Maybe the bulk of this

777
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: investigation is going in the wrong direction. People think of

778
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: glitter as always sparkling, but that's not the case. If

779
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: you look at and this is coming from the CEOs

780
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: of glitter X, if you look at clear glitter, the

781
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: clear stuff that will become glitter before he gets colorized

782
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: and all that jazz. It looks a lot like tiny

783
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: pieces of a dead jellyfish. You could also make Matts

784
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: glitter m A T T E. Uh yeah, just well,

785
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: it's not like because you have a sparkling personality, Matt.

786
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: This stuff is flat and dull, but it's still technically glitter.

787
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: We just haven't added the shiny, So it could be.

788
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: It could be that opens the door. It could be

789
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: a number of other things. And at this point, like

790
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: we don't know the answer. I like explosives for it.

791
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: I like military applications that makes sense. The tracking quality,

792
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: oh god, the tracking man. It Also it feeds into

793
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: our whole annoyance with glitter, the fact that it just

794
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 1: can't get rid of it, and it's like a breadcrumb trail.

795
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: And and like the fact that, like like with ballistics,

796
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: you would not want some other manufacture to know which

797
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: one was yours, because then they might use the same

798
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: one and then it would be they might get blamed

799
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: for something that that they were not responsible for. And

800
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: again I want to say responsible. We know manufacturers weapons

801
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 1: don't typically take responsibility for anything, but it's a liability yeah,

802
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: it's and it's a you know, it's a security risk too,

803
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: right if it's in impairing the potential operation of whatever

804
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: you're using, and we unfortunately have to be vague about that.

805
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: No one has solved this. If you again, if you

806
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 1: are a glitter insider, we hope this is at least

807
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: giving you a chuckle. We would also love to hear

808
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: from you, because we can draw the following conclusion. One

809
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: thing is for sure when it comes to glitter, there's

810
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: definitely stuff they don't want you to know. And I've

811
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: got to ask you, Matt, I've got to ask you know.

812
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: I know this was one of those we work together

813
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: pretty closely, folks, so we are we're always kind of

814
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: brain storing and cogitating. This is one of those episodes

815
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: where we're pitching it around. Nobody flat out said, no,

816
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: this is weird, don't do it. But there were some

817
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: on it, like very very diplomatic questions of what the

818
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: hell I thought it was mainly going to be in

819
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: the kind of like environmental you know, hazard area, but

820
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: this whole like is it in bombs thing? And we

821
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: don't know, but it's like, oh, I think this is

822
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: the quintessential stuff that I wants you to do, and

823
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: that whole conversation from that cut article. Really, when you

824
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: have that level of subterfuge, at that level of like

825
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: non transparency, you know, in a highly regulated world of manufacturing,

826
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: that's pretty rare and that really makes made my sight.

827
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 1: Do you guys think this was worth it? Yeah, it's

828
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: totally worth it. I think though we are being we

829
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: are taking the bait of Big Glitter. I think they're

830
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:02,479
Speaker 1: worried that Ellen John is retiring and Madonna's going away. Yeah,

831
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: Big Glitter is worried that they're gonna lose a bunch

832
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: of market share because all these toothpaste. We didn't even

833
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: get to toothpaste. I think we may have mentioned dentifics

834
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: is once? Is it really that Big Glitter? It's like

835
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: these two companies, the ones that we're big enough to

836
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: make the conversation. Guys, I sent you a picture of

837
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: coal gate, a specific specific type of coal gate. It's

838
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: like shiny diamonds or some some craziness. What is it called?

839
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: Let me find it? Colgate makes It's called coal Gate, dirt,

840
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: dirt mouth, filth time. It looks like smaller versions of

841
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: those weird like plastic e melty breath freshener things kind

842
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: of suspended in toothpaste. Yeah, but you're not supposed to

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Speaker 1: you're not has to eat it. But people started getting

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Speaker 1: about Um we're because we're talking about trade secrets, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: car manufacturers paints are all proprietary, right, so Honda makes

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Speaker 1: different paints that Toyota, than Toyota, than Kia, than all

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Speaker 1: us know, folks. You see we here, we are here

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Speaker 1: at the precipice of the current investigation. Uh, this is

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Speaker 1: Who is buying all this glitter? Let us We try

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