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And it's a multi billion dollar industry 39 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 6: for sure, and it's one of the fastest growing sports. 40 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 6: It has been one of the fast growing sports for 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 6: a long time, especially ever since Lil Wayne started. 42 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 4: Wayne, I mean there's some guys prior to that, Tony, 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 4: I'm taking our culture, our culture for sure. 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 6: You ain't see like mac maine said that like you 46 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 6: like he was, like, yo, you did change that We 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 6: got in the hood in New Orleans, like riding skateboards 48 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 6: like I've never seen that before. 49 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: It was like Wayne, And right when Wayne was doing it, 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: we had Loupe come in with the kick, push and up. 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 3: Don't get Ano credit though, should. 52 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 5: But he's not a skateboarder. 53 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: He was the whole song was about it. 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 6: He said that he actually all you probably notice he 55 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 6: might he got pushed back from the skateboard community because 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 6: he was because he wasn't a skateboarder. He's just a 57 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 6: writer and he wrote to some he's not like a 58 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 6: passionate skateboard right, yeah, flash back to. 59 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 5: Lupez for sure. 60 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: You know what it was to like that song still 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: introduced so many kids to the actual sports culture, you 62 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like so it's still had a moment. 63 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 3: But you guys getting a skateboard p so we were 64 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: getting we. 65 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 5: Were getting there. 66 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 3: Skateboard skateboard p don't forget for real for a reason. 67 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 5: Played the part in the culture for sure. 68 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 6: So now you syl Vest young legend in the game 69 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 6: from Queens and he's a professional BMX rider and he's 70 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 6: huge on social media, over five hundred thousand. He got 71 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 6: endorsement deals from Nike, from Brand Jordan from g Shock. 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 6: Yeah he's also crazy. He's also an entrepreneur. That was crazy. Yeah, 73 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 6: he's an entrepreneur and an ambassador for the skateboard culture. 74 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: And he's some bicycle coach. 75 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 5: Bicycle coach not to well, he is two wheels. 76 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: Yees, they're very they're very I would say, like I 77 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: call it X games, but I don't even want to, 78 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: like even I don't know how you feel about that, 79 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 4: like BMX athlete or just because I've heard it in 80 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: plenty of things. 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 3: It's like, yo, you're just a professional athlete. First of all, 82 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: professional BMX athlete got you first and foremost. 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 6: And the bike and the bike culture has also. It's 84 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 6: interesting because like you the pedal bike. But then you 85 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 6: have like the meek Mill situation, like and those guys 86 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 6: Philly and Baltimore where they they turned up too, and 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 6: they it was a whole different way. Like I feel 88 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 6: like growing up basketball football for black people, that's what 89 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 6: you were looking at. Nobody was looking at alternative X 90 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 6: games as a career as even something that was cool. 91 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: I feel like when you so like I feel like 92 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: bikes were part of all of our lives, right. 93 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 6: No, just riding a bike, but that's how it say. 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 6: It wasn't like you doing a sport out of it. 95 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: I can do something. 96 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 6: Nobody ever thought about riding a bike or a skateboard 97 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 6: or none of that was looked at as cool. 98 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: So I mean even like video games, like we used 99 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: to play it, but we never thought like how do 100 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 4: we turn this into something? 101 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 6: No, for sure, But then that changed in the two 102 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 6: thousands and now it's just part of the fabric of culture. 103 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 5: Like they don't even look, you don't even think about it. 104 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 6: You see a skateboard park, you see a bike park, 105 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 6: you see any of that type of vibe. You don't 106 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 6: really even it's not a big deal. But before it 107 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 6: would be like, Yo, what's he doing? What's going on here? 108 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 6: If they were black, you would be like why is 109 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 6: he doing that? Like what is he doing? 110 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 5: So, yeah, thank you for joining us. 111 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: And thank you for breaking that barrier. I appreciate it. 112 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 5: Sure. The last time that we were together was in. 113 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: Paris, a great a great running and. 114 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 5: A very small club. Perhaps that was the last time. 115 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 6: That was the first time we actually linked and I 116 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 6: actually reached out to you on Instagram a couple of 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 6: years ago. I want to get you on the show, bro. 118 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, we said I got the DM twenty twenty. Yeah, certainly. Yeah, 119 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 3: during the pandemic. 120 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: It was during the pandemic we were watching your heir 121 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 4: go right here. It was like he pulled it up 122 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: because I figured it was like, hey, yo, lovely, what 123 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: you're doing, We'll love to connect. It was like yeah, bro, yeah, Bro, 124 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, what's left us on scene? 125 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 5: That's a fact. That's a fact. They didn't take it personally. 126 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: I'm doing something, man, a bunch of deals. Yeah. Listen, 127 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: we were still working during during the pandemic. Man, we 128 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: have to figure out different ways to it happens, to 129 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: still make things happen. Never personal. We were like, when 130 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 3: the time comes, it's going to be the right to happen. 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: So that's all it is. 132 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I thank you for joining us. 133 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. 134 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 6: Feelers man, dope conversation I'm looking forward to having. So, 135 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 6: all right, how do you get into riding bikes? 136 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: I think it's similar to what we just spoke about, right, 137 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: like riding bikes in the neighborhoods that we come from 138 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: is just part of childhood, right, It's like a write 139 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: a passage. And then from that, for me, it was 140 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: like a right, well, how do I pop a Willie? 141 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: How do I do a bunny hop? And started making 142 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: ransom things of that nature man, And that's like I 143 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: fell in love with it yourself. A lot of it, yeah, 144 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: a lot of it. Yeah. It's just like falling, falling, 145 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: breaking scrapes, you know what I mean, Like you just 146 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: have it's like that. It's the typical learning curve, you know. 147 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 4: So you you're doing the ramps and you're riding just 148 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 4: for fun. But at some point and because like I know, 149 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: you're you're born in the eighties, raised in the nineties, 150 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: but like X games becomes a thing even like we 151 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 4: gotta give credit to like the Tony Hawk video games 152 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: like that brought people into the culture. At what point 153 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 4: did you say, like this something I want to actually 154 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: do for like a career. 155 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: I've seen it on team right, so you would see 156 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: some of those programmers like X get things of that nature. 157 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: I seen guys riding BINGX bicycles and they were dope kids, 158 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: sponsor logos all over their helmets and they chest passed 159 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: on their bikes or whatnot, and they was living like 160 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: this BMX rock star lifestyle and I was like, man, 161 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: I want to do that, Like that looks dope. At 162 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: that point in time, I was already in love a 163 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: bicycle riding. You. I mean, I was already doing my 164 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: thing in the hood, trying to figure it out. Then 165 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: I've seen what the potential could be. And once I 166 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: understood that, I was like, no, I'm locked in. 167 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 5: So well, what point do you make this a career? 168 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: When I went pro so at the age of twelve, 169 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: I started to again like really get into it right 170 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: and identify this is what I wanted to do. And 171 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 3: from there it was like every moment I had, like 172 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: it was on my bicycle. I came home from school, 173 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: dropped my bag, jumped on my bike, came home like 174 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 3: when like the lights turned on. You know what I mean, 175 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 3: My mom isn't wilding up on the weekends. Is wake 176 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: up on Saturday morning early, ride all day, Sunday, ride 177 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: all day. And then through that, right I started to 178 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: leave my neighborhood, go to go to like Manhattan or 179 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: go to Brooklyn and things of that nature, and the 180 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: bike on a bike jump on the train, go to whever, 181 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, just to explore New York 182 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: City kind of seeking out other kids who are riding 183 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 3: v mex bikes. And as I met different kids and 184 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: the information got exchanged right where it was like, oh, 185 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: check out this magazine and check out this tape, check 186 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: out this dvd, whatever the case is, started to learn 187 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: more about, Okay, this is the path that I needed 188 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: to take in order to turn pro and put myself 189 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: in like the right position the time that I went into. 190 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: Like what is the process. 191 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 6: What's the process to even turn pro? Like is there 192 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 6: a tryout? Do you have to get accepted into? Like 193 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 6: how does that even? Because we know how to turn 194 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 6: pro in basketball football, but I don't know how to 195 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 6: I'm assuming most people don't know how to turn pro 196 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 6: in your sport. 197 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: So unlike basketball football, right where like you go to 198 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: high school and then you go to college and then 199 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: you enter the draft with being mess different. Right, It's 200 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 3: it's it's like the brands, the bike brands turn guys pro. 201 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: You know, So it's about again meeting like the right people, 202 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: meeting like like the team managers or meeting the company 203 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: owners or like the high level guys on those BMX teams, 204 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: and it's like word of mouth right where it's like 205 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 3: if you dope and you're killing it, and like they 206 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 3: catch with you and y'all vibe me, y'all click, like 207 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 3: they're gonna put the word in for you a sponsorship. 208 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 6: As soon as you start making money, you're pro basically, 209 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 6: not like you don't sign a contract to get into 210 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 6: a league. 211 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: Now just like no league. Like you sign a contract, 212 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: you sign up a professional contract. Yeah with said brand, right, 213 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 3: Like the brand turns you pro. Like the brand says, Okay, 214 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: now you're a professional BMX athlete. So this is like 215 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: two thousand and five, you're eighteen, yeah, right, so this 216 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: is YouTube thousand and five, thousand, thousand and five. So 217 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of things to unpack there, right. 218 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: Number one, when we think of athlete, we think basketball, 219 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: we think football players. We cater around them, We make 220 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 4: sure that they make it out the neighborhood. I wonder 221 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 4: what that was like, and I'm kind of hearing it 222 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 4: because you have to travel outside the neighborhood to find 223 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: people that were doing something similar. But how do you 224 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 4: get notoriety? Because this is before social media? There's no Instagram. 225 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: Facebook is just starting on college campuses around this time, 226 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: and YouTube isn't really something that people are watching. 227 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: So how do you How do the brands even find you? 228 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 3: I mean so like again, like it's being in the 229 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: right place at the right time, you know what I mean. Oh, 230 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: some people will make sponsor me tapes, So you'll film 231 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: yourself and you'll send it to the brand, you know 232 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: what i mean. Like if they if they like what 233 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: you do, they may hit you back, like they may 234 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: send you some product. If not, it's crickets, you know 235 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: what I mean. But a lot of times it's that 236 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: it's so so gone to certain bme's competitions, right and 237 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: like again showing off your time. Right. So there was 238 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: like some local contests in New York that I went 239 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: to just to get that exposure because at that point 240 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: in time, the main media in BMX was either the 241 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: magazines or the videos, Like the videos came out once 242 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 3: every few months, what the case may be, you know 243 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: what I mean. So it was difficult. It was difficult 244 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: to get that exposure. Man. 245 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 4: So I'm thinking, like this is like mixtape you're making. 246 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 4: You're making a mixtape. 247 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that exactly what it's like, Brote. 248 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 5: So, who was the first company that sponsored you. 249 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: There was a brand in New York called Based Brooklyn 250 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: t shirt brand and it was like sponsored guys, take 251 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: guys on like BMX trips, you know what I mean, 252 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: which was a big thing at that point in time 253 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: for someone to pay for you to go ride your 254 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: bike in another state, you know what I mean. It's 255 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: like they were first, and then shortly after the company 256 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: called Animal Bikes and they started flowing me product. Right, 257 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 3: So how it works in BMX is like you get flow, 258 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: which is like just free product. Then you're an amateur writer, 259 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: you know me when you can get a little more product, 260 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: a little more love, and then it's pro and then 261 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: you get money. 262 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 6: Then you get money at the PROG as the first compensation. 263 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 6: How much money did you make when you first like 264 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 6: the first day. 265 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 3: It was it was like it was like a few 266 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: hundred bucks, man, hundred hundred bucks at that point in time, 267 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: damn man. 268 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 5: And how long was that for? 269 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: For a year or so? 270 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 5: You know, hundred bucks for a year? 271 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, until I turned pro? For really when I turned 272 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: pro and it changed completely. Want some imagere stuff. 273 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 5: Like with the pro well, how much was it when 274 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 5: you first turned pro? 275 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: I rather not speak about that, So let's talk about 276 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: the Dave Mirror, Right, this is the legend, super legend 277 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: at that point in your career, Like you're eighteen. 278 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 4: This is one of the guys you're looking up to 279 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 4: saying like, I hope they see what I'm doing. I 280 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: hope they can see my talent to the point where 281 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 4: it's like, all right, he's looking to sign me. 282 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: Like how did that meeting take place? For sure? So 283 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: at that point in time, we were filming for a 284 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: video call Flip Side, and the premise of the video 285 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: was it will take four up and coming BMX athletes. 286 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: I wasn't even pro yet, so amateur, and they would 287 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: take four pro guys and kind of put each other 288 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: in each other's worlds, you know what I mean. So, 289 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 3: so like we went down to North Carolina and we 290 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: met Dave Mirror and got to understand his world a 291 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: little bit more on was his private facility once his crib. 292 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: To see how he was living. It was super inspiring. 293 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: And at that point he was looking to sign riders. 294 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: He had just started a company called Miracle Bikes. He 295 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: was looking to start riders to sign some riders and 296 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: he signed me as the second rider to his team, 297 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: and that's when, like life change, I went. I went 298 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 3: pro at that point in time. Smart decision by him. 299 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: It was a great decision investment. But like those who 300 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: don't know who Dave Marror is, I would compare. I 301 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: would compare Dave Mirror to like the Michael Jordan of BMX, 302 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: and I mean he was that influential. He changed the game. 303 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: He set the tone like super successful within the game man. 304 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: And to have someone like him signed me, I was, Yeah, 305 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: I had just turned eighteen. Yeah, you know what I mean, 306 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: Like I'm still trying to figure a lot of things 307 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: out and he gave me a shot. You know, I'm 308 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: ever grateful. So you never competed in X games right 309 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: on like the pro level, like so there was once 310 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: or twice, I think twice I went. I went to 311 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: Brazil one time, and I went to Dubai. But at 312 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: that point I was already established in my career. I 313 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: didn't really care about righting X games. I went just 314 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: to travel. I wanted to go see what Brazil was like. 315 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: I want to see what Dubai was like. For me, 316 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: like competer was never important you know, like I didn't. 317 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: I didn't have to compete to turn pro and then 318 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: and in my circle, we didn't really care about that. 319 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: We were more cared about going out and film and content. 320 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 6: So I just want to deep dive into that follow over. Guys, 321 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 6: most people in most sports, it's their goal is to win, right, 322 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 6: whin a gold medal, win a championship, when whatever, Right, Like, 323 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 6: that's part of it. But you're saying, like you never 324 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 6: really cared about competition. Your thing was you're gonna viral, 325 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 6: you're making you're making a name for yourself, you're getting sponsorships, 326 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 6: and you just curre it in your own vibe. You 327 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 6: never cared about the actual competing in the sport, right, correct? 328 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 6: Why why that's interesting for us from a sports standpoint, Like. 329 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: Why so you have to break it down like this, 330 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: Right when it comes to action sports, Like there's two 331 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: different ways to go pro. Right, A lot of guys 332 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: would go and take that competition circuit and do that 333 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: and like that that contest series will help define those 334 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: guys turning pro. There's other guys who just free ride, 335 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: will go out and just create a video part. And 336 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: I will compare video part to like a musician's album, right, 337 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: where like you'll take let's call it a year out 338 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: and you'll go film your best stuff, right, and that 339 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: takes time to do that. It's a piece of art 340 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: in a sense that you put that out right and 341 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 3: and a lot of guys go pro that way, and 342 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 3: that was the way I went. It was more about 343 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 3: free riding and creating video parts and creating content, you know. 344 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: And because that was my route and I achieved some 345 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: much success from that route, I never cared about the competition. 346 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 6: It's about expression that competition, right, You never you never 347 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 6: look at you You never look at somebody like I'm 348 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 6: better than him, or I could do this, or I 349 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 6: want to battle him in this. 350 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 5: You never look at it like this. 351 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 3: You mean, like it's always going to be that, right, 352 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: because like with like as BMX Ritter is, like I 353 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: feel like we're always chasing that like that next trick 354 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: that's never been done before, you know what I mean, 355 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: And like that's the way that you really get your 356 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 3: rocks off, you feel me. So it was always that 357 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: for me, you know what I mean, Like, like I 358 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: knew where I stood amongst my peers in the world 359 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: of BMX, and then there was a part that was like, Okay, 360 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: how how far can I take it? Going this route? 361 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 3: Can I actually break the mold? And that's what end 362 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: up doing, you know, I prove that you don't need 363 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: a contest to become successful in the world of BMX. Yeah, 364 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: you know, and I started to chase that and that's 365 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: what became more like enticing for me. You know, that's 366 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: what interestant. So rather than a contest, you focus on 367 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: the content. 368 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: Right, So how did you because now you're a professional, 369 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 4: how do you build a team around you that's capturing 370 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 4: the content, Because like to do a trick, it might 371 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: take you, like you might be practicing that thing for 372 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 4: eleven hours straight and somebody has to capture that for 373 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 4: eleven hours straight for sure, So how did you go 374 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: about doing that? Because that could get pricey? So a 375 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 4: lot of times that are the companies I responsible. 376 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: They'll pay for the films, they'll pay for the photographers. 377 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 3: You know, there's certain situations where guys who were creating 378 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: different video projects, they'll go out and film with a 379 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 3: bunch of different guys and then they'll sell that video 380 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 3: podcasts how they got paid, you know what I mean. 381 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: So different ways of how it worked, and I started 382 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 3: to make enough money I started to pay for my 383 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: own guys to feel me like as simple as that. 384 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 3: How long is the typical filming for you? It's depending 385 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: on what you're filming, you know, it's always different, bro. 386 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: Like we spoke about earlier about time, Like the time 387 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: that has gone into my career is crazy, right. There's 388 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: certain tricks that I've chased for months, you know what 389 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: I mean, flying back and forth between New York and 390 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 3: LA or going to like certain places around the world 391 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 3: to land one trick because it meant that much to me, 392 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: Because I know, like, if I land this trick and 393 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: I put it in this video, that's going out of here, 394 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I think people don't 395 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: really understand. It's like a lot of times you guys 396 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 3: see the end result, but there's a lot of energy 397 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 3: that goes into capturing these moments. You know, ten thousand Hours. 398 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 6: The go video series right on YouTube where you ride 399 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 6: in different parts of the world. 400 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 5: Talk about that, the. 401 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 6: Inspiration putting that together and how that all came about. 402 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: For sure. So I was at a point in my 403 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 3: life where I wanted to create a video platform that 404 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: I control one hundred and ten percent right. I didn't 405 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: want a brand tell me what to do, telling me 406 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: how to do it, and I also wanted to answer 407 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 3: a couple of questions right. People would always ask me, 408 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: how does it feel to rog your bike? Right when 409 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: you're in traffic or you're traveling the world and people 410 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 3: that like you're hanging out with. So I was like, well, 411 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: how do I answer these questions but also again create 412 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 3: something that I own completely, but also do it in 413 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 3: a way that's creative, something that's progressive, something that people 414 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 3: have like aren't seeing online right now. And between figuring 415 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: out that process, we started the Ghost series and we 416 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 3: filmed the first one in New York on a shoe 417 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: string budget. We probably had a couple thousand dollars to 418 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: do it, you know. It was my creative partner, Harrison Boyce, 419 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: and I took the entire summer of twenty fifteen to 420 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: shoot it, and at the end of that summer we 421 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 3: had an amazing piece of content. We had this four 422 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: minute video that in our opinion, was something again people 423 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: have never seen before. You know, everything from how we 424 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 3: shot it. We shot it like the POV standpoint, so 425 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: you can see what it's like to be on my 426 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: bike when I'm going up traffic the wrong way, when 427 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: I'm jumping down the staircase leaning on a bunch of 428 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: my friends. Right. We had like the cruise in there, 429 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 3: and we had like asat third and a bunch of 430 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 3: people were like, cameo in the video, these are my guys, right, 431 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: and it's like cool, Like, how we're gonna put this out? 432 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 3: So we went to YouTube right again, the platform that 433 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: we can control, and we put it out with no 434 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 3: real expectations. We just wanted to share the piece of content. 435 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: And that video went viral in a matter of days. 436 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 5: Was that your first YouTube video? 437 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: No, I did other videos before that. 438 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 5: That was the first of that series. 439 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, the first one of that series. And man like 440 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: it went crazy, bro, People from all around the world 441 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: were hitting me up like can we like post a video? 442 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: Tell us more? Can we interview? And it was so 443 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: much that I learned within that process. Man, it was. 444 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 3: It was one like taking the control into my own hands. 445 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: It was two being fearless, you know what I mean? 446 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 3: Like being fearless on my bicycle was a natural thing. 447 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: But now transition that like fearlessness into what I was 448 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: creating as well, you know, and just believing in myself, 449 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 3: you know, believing in what will be created. And then 450 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: the power the internet did what the Internet did, man, 451 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 3: And after that going New York video went viral, man Like, 452 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: it just created this ripple effect right with, Like people 453 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: started to look at my brand differently. 454 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 4: You talked about some of the people that were in 455 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 4: that make cameos in it. Yeah, we always talk about 456 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 4: relationships and how you know they're more valuable than money. Well, 457 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: you nurturing those relationships prior to making the video? Like 458 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 4: how did people gravitate towards you being in the BMX world? 459 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: Like I always see you with It's not that I 460 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 4: can't think of somebody who you haven't been saying the 461 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 4: next two. But are people just looking like, yo, that's 462 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 4: the guy from the BMX video or are you introduce 463 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 4: him to him? How do you nurture relationships as you're 464 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 4: building that brand? 465 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: I mean it's well, first it's in regards to that 466 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: video in itself, it's New York City, right, I'm a 467 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 3: New York City kid. I'm outside all the time. So 468 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 3: you speak of like even Ferg and Vic, right, Like, 469 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: I've known these guys for years prior to that video, 470 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like Ferg actually cameoed in 471 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: a video I did maybe four years prior to that, 472 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: because Ferg actually rides bikes and whatnot, you know, and 473 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: Victory running like the same circles or whatnot. So when 474 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: it came to the time of doing that first go 475 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: in New York video, it's like, yeah, I'm doing this video, 476 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 3: you have to be in it. And it was like cool, 477 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: no adults to show up, you know what I mean, 478 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 3: it was love because they had because we already had 479 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: a respect for one another. To go back to the 480 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: main question as far as like relationships, I mean, relationships 481 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: are everything, you know, and I feel like throughout my 482 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: career on an incredible job of fostering like real relationships 483 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 3: with people. It's not just a transactional thing, you know, 484 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 3: Like it's actually like yo, I'm an invested into what 485 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: you're doing, and you're invested into what I'm doing, and 486 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 3: we actually cool and we can create together. And I 487 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: feel a lot of times people think it's like like 488 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 3: like networking, it's just about meetings thing like having that transaction. 489 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 3: It's more than that for me, you know what I mean, 490 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: actually want to like again like let's be bros. 491 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 6: You know, so this thing on this topic will go 492 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 6: so you did, it goes viral. But then you start 493 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 6: to take this on the road and you go to 494 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 6: London and Dubai and Tokyo. So the travel aspect is 495 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 6: interesting because that's why I always like, I think, like 496 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 6: Anthony Bardain Rest in Peace, he had an interesting thing 497 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 6: because most people look at it like a food show, 498 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 6: but it's really a travel show mixed with fool People 499 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 6: love to travel, right, and so when did you decide 500 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 6: to make it a travel show and highlight different cities 501 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 6: while you're doing. 502 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 5: Bike tricks. 503 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: So the original idea was always to take it around 504 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: the world. So I'm not gonna name the brand, but 505 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: I had pitched the idea to a brand like listen, 506 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: I need three hundred thousand dollars to like do this 507 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: video where round my bicycle around the world, all in 508 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: like quote unquote one setting, you know, and they were like, now, 509 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 3: we don't believe in it. So when we did go 510 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: in New York, that was really just a pilot to 511 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: show them that the idea could work. But the success 512 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 3: of going to New York, I was like, Okay, let's 513 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: not do this in one video. Let's break it down. 514 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 3: It's the segments. So then we did La and we 515 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: did Tokyo, and now each city became its own thing, 516 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: you know. And then like again like the Ghosts to 517 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: ride my bike around the world. So at the end 518 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 3: of season one, we have one one more episode we're 519 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: gonna do if you put all the videos together, I'm 520 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: starting in New York and I go around the world 521 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 3: west to east. So like that was the visual idea 522 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 3: of it. So it's always the travel part was always there. 523 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: I've already been traveling around. 524 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 6: Were you capturing audiences when you were going to different places? 525 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: We would we would touch down and said city and 526 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: connect with the people who were moving and shaking in 527 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: that city, and we put the video out and like 528 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 3: that city seeing it, it was like, oh, I'm now 529 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: garnered a new audience in that city based off the video, 530 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: you know, because they see me capture the true essence 531 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 3: of that city, all the right people, the right places, 532 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 3: doing the right things. Again, there's a very special experience 533 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 3: doing it right. We always say there's a certain magic 534 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: that that kind of surrounds the Ghost series. And like 535 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 3: when we're filming it because things just happen to workout, 536 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 3: you know. 537 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 4: When when you're when you're doing that, when you have 538 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: the idea, and I'm sure there there's there's writers right 539 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 4: now that have the idea. What's the process of negotiating 540 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 4: the budget or the amount that of the sponsorship you 541 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 4: believe the value is worth, right, because I'm sure there's 542 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 4: times where you've been in meetings and people probably undervalued 543 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 4: your worth, right, So how do you capture like your 544 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 4: true value inside of the space and say, all right, 545 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 4: this is what we're worth. Take it or leave it 546 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 4: if you can't rap with us and move somewhere else. 547 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: A lot of times it's based off the numbers. You know, 548 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 3: those YouTube numbers don't lie like they're right up there, 549 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: you know. And there's certain things that are those intangibles 550 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: right where you can't put a dollar a mount on it. 551 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: You have to just believe that I'm going to go 552 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: and deliver what it is that I said I'm going 553 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: to deliver. You know. I feel like we speak about 554 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 3: the time that's going into my career, speak about the longevity, 555 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: right like I've been doing this for a long time 556 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 3: and year after year putting out hits whether it's a 557 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 3: content series, whether it's a sneaker, you know what I mean, 558 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: whether it's a T shirt, whether it's a book, whatever 559 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 3: the case may be. I mean, like those things start 560 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 3: to justify the worth and the value of the things 561 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 3: that I'm touching. So let's go to twenty eighteen. That 562 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: in eighteen I was an amazing year. I sell, it 563 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 3: was an amazing for me. 564 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 4: Man, if people didn't know who you are, twenty eighteen 565 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 4: is like welcome to the world. You get to how 566 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 4: did the collaboration I'm saying twenty eighteen. It's because when 567 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 4: the Jordan one came out? How did that collaboration come about? 568 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: Was it? 569 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 4: The buzz had built up to the point where now 570 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 4: you're on the radar for Jordan Brand. 571 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 3: Right, So it's so it's crazy. 572 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 4: Right. 573 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: So, like we speak about twenty fifteen when the Ghost 574 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: series launched, right, But if you think about the beginning 575 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: of my career right from two thousand and five, thousand 576 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: and six up to twenty fifteen, that's a lot of 577 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 3: time and a lot of energy and trial and narrative 578 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: like that went into even get into the Ghost series 579 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen, right, and then from twenty fifteen to 580 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, putting out again more content, putting out different projects. 581 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: That twenty eighteen came around, and yeah, like the success 582 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: that I have garnered in my career from the beginning 583 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: to that point, I was ready sponsored by Nike for 584 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: all those years. Right, we did multiple shoes. We did 585 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 3: a Nike six point zero, We did a Nike Dunk 586 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 3: at that point in time, and we had success with 587 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: those shoes. Those led into me get an opportunity to 588 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 3: do a Jordan one in twenty eighteen, and I did 589 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 3: an Air Force one in twenty eighteen as well. You 590 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: know that came out a month later, and they both 591 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: sold out in a matter of Like I mean if 592 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 3: the Jordan went sold out on one day, the air 593 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: Force one to two, it might have been less than 594 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: a day, like an hour. Yeah, it was gone, bro. 595 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 3: But it was so crazy because we had did we 596 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: had did an early release in New York, right, we did. 597 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: We did a release at kiff YEP in the morning time. 598 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 3: Then we did a release of RSVP Gallery in LA 599 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: later that night. So we did two cities same day, 600 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: which I was in both cities for joints were gone 601 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 3: in a matter of minutes and then the official release 602 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: was September one of twenty eighteen, and I was like, man, 603 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: I want to go overseas, right, I want to go 604 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: to Europe and do signings and do a release. So 605 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 3: we did. We did one in Paris, and then we 606 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 3: did two in Paris, and we did one shoe signing 607 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: in Amsterdam. And I remember landing in Paris super early. 608 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 3: I think we landed at like five am or something 609 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: like that. We were in central city at six am 610 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 3: and there was a line of kids, about one hundred 611 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: kids outside the Nike store waiting for this shoe at 612 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: six in the morning. You know what I mean, Like 613 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 3: that is a true indicator of my global relevance at 614 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: that point in time. And Elsa to els a sign 615 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: of like we've created a shoe that people around the 616 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: world can relate to, you know, I mean in the 617 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: fact that this was the first BMX inspired Jordan one, right, 618 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 3: the first time you've seeing a Jordan one distressed like 619 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: being released as a brand new shoes. It was a 620 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: huge moment for me, Man, huge moment. 621 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 5: So are you the are you the biggest in the game? 622 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 3: One hundred percent? Whoa whoa A thousand, one hundred percent. 623 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 5: Bro, Yeah, I mean no hesitation. 624 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 3: Now a question, So. 625 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 6: The sneaker collaboration, right when you when you're marketing this, 626 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 6: are you in communication with Nike to say, like, this 627 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 6: is how I want the vibe to be curated and 628 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 6: this is kind of in line with my brand or 629 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 6: are they leading the conversation. How is that working with 630 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 6: you know, one of the largest companies in the world. 631 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: It's a clever effort, especially for me, right, Like any 632 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 3: anything you see me put out, this is more than 633 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: likely that I've been involved with the process from inception 634 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: to release and everything in between, you know, I mean, 635 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: I'm super particular and hands I want to make sure 636 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: that my vision is like it comes across and it 637 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: gets expressed the right way, and something else. I want 638 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 3: to credit Nike for Man again, like I signed with 639 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: Nike early on in my career. Right, it's like it 640 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 3: was my second professional sponsor. And going up to Portland 641 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: and sitting in these rooms, right, sitting in these boardrooms, 642 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: sitting in these marketing meetings, these design sessions, I learned 643 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: so much about the business side of what happens. 644 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 5: Right, most some of the things you learned, Man. 645 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 3: Marketing right, like how to storytell right, Like how to 646 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: like storytell against a product, you know, how to communicate 647 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: you know, like some of these meetings, like it's a 648 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 3: different language, that's that's that's being spoken, you know, learning 649 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 3: about colors and materials and again how to like push 650 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: these these products to the marketplace. Also the importance of 651 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 3: the why, like why are we doing this thing? Right now? 652 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: A lot of times people do shit, but why are 653 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 3: you doing it? You know? It's all those things I 654 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: learned at Nike coming up in the game right at 655 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: a very young age, and I started to apply those 656 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: things to my business, to my content, to how I'm 657 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 3: rolling out videos and whatnot, you know what I mean. Like, 658 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: and I feel like that's why a lot of what 659 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 3: I was doing early on and even now it looked 660 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: way different than a lot of other action sports athletes, 661 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 3: probably all of them, because I was coming from a 662 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: different place. And I mean like, like my influences were 663 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 3: way different early on in my career. 664 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder now and maybe it's true, Like was 665 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 4: that on the vision board because I know you like 666 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 4: to ride in everything, right, But I remember like even 667 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 4: like the X Games, it were like they had the airwalks, 668 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 4: and then the. 669 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 3: Dunks became something. Paul Rodriguez he got a shoe off 670 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 3: of that. Are you on the vision board? Are you drawing? 671 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 3: Like you know what? 672 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 4: I'm assuming maybe the Jordan one is your favorite shoe. 673 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: I want to That's what I want to create that 674 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 4: I love to ride in. That I'm going to create 675 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 4: that one. 676 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was a natural progression because for 677 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: a minute I was only riding in dunks. And then 678 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 3: but then we did the song which was like my 679 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 3: first duncle ever designed with DJ Clark Camp, which was 680 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: a crazy moment, legend, super legend, you know what I mean, 681 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 3: like crazy, We did that, and then I naturally progressed 682 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 3: into starting to where Jordan wants to ride it, and 683 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 3: I started riding at everything and people started to notice 684 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: it and like and it was kind of this thing 685 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 3: that was part of my brand, was like what Jordan 686 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 3: wants and what crazy sneakers're gonna ride in next, and 687 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 3: so like when the opportunity came about to do it, 688 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: like the Jordan won, it was like it's a no brainer. Yeah, 689 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: it's craze worthy. 690 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 4: I'm be honest with you, watching you rideing somebody sneakers 691 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 4: that most people can't get their hands on, right, right, 692 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 4: I'm just like, but I'm thinking even now, from when 693 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 4: you said marketing like Nike, the fact that they signed 694 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 4: you at an early age, right, they're probably watching the 695 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 4: transition from yeah, we have the air Force one, which 696 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 4: is a great shoe. Adida comes to with that NMD 697 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 4: in like twenty twelve. Coyes over at at Adida as well. 698 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 4: At the time they're trying to figure out what the 699 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 4: competitor is going to be, You're already wearing dunks. 700 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 3: Let's put the focus on. Was that like part of 701 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: the planning? Think, I'm not sure maybe someone over there 702 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: thought about it, you know, because like because at that 703 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 3: point in time, I was also signed to NIKESB. So 704 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 3: the dunk was just a shoe that I was just 705 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 3: initially wearing the regardless, you know what I mean. And 706 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 3: I think the other part of it too that people 707 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 3: may not know is that I've been signed to multiple 708 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 3: categories of Nike, you know, Like I came in under 709 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 3: Nike six point zero, and then I turned into Nike 710 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 3: Flag and then well me personally, like I got signed 711 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 3: over the NIKESB and then I got signed to like 712 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: just a Nike a general Nike athlete, like a cross category. 713 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 3: And then now I'm with Jordan Brand. 714 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 6: So let's talk about your involvement in Brooklyn Machine Works. Right, 715 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 6: So that's totally different from what we just talked about 716 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 6: as far as peril. Uh Yeah, how did you get 717 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 6: involved in that? And what does that look like? 718 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 3: Right? So I was riding on Americo Bikes underneath plate, 719 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 3: I was riding for America Bikes and the opportunity to 720 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 3: ride for Bookly Machine Rocks came about. 721 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,959 Speaker 5: And what is Brooklyn Machine Works. 722 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 3: So Brooklyn Machineerks is a bike brand. It makes like bicycles, 723 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 3: and Pharrell was part own it and at that point 724 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 3: in time, like Froll and I were building's working on 725 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: a different bunch of different ideas. So I signed them 726 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: to Brooklyn Machine Works, which was a big decision, right 727 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 3: to leave Meraco Bikes, you know what I mean, like 728 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 3: talking about Dave Mirror like one of the greatest that 729 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 3: ever do it, like this an amazing bike brand I got, 730 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: they sell them bikes all around the world. To sign 731 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: to a way smaller label, you know, but I believe 732 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 3: in what they were doing. Again, like I believed in 733 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 3: what like like the vision I fell and Joe had 734 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 3: for it. So I signed over there. It didn't work out, 735 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 3: and it's just the nature of the game. And now 736 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 3: I'm signed with Specialized Bikes. Specialized bike, you know what 737 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 3: I mean. So I've been over there for like three years. 738 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 3: It's been dope. 739 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 6: So being signed with a bike, that's like, what does 740 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 6: that actually mean? You're signed with them, like you only 741 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 6: can ride their bike. Yeah, they pay you, they're like 742 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 6: your endorser, and you're like their brand ambassador. 743 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly what it is. I can only ride Specialized bikes, 744 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 3: can ride another bike bike. That's what it wants to 745 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 3: Right now though. 746 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 4: Do you just do you have your own bike that 747 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 4: you designed that the general public can actually purchase or 748 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 4: how does that work? 749 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 3: Working on that right now? Working on that right now? 750 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 4: So let's talk about where that bike can go, because 751 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 4: you mean, I mean, let's talk about the Ramoa. 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Under President Trump, 799 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: America's laws, border and families will. 800 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 2: Be protected sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 801 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 3: In case, oh you mean what you can put it in? 802 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 4: When I saw this again with the brand partnerships, this 803 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 4: makes a lot of sense. You travel a lot, and 804 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 4: if you travel, where does your bite go when you fly? 805 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 3: Exactly? 806 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 4: And so how did that come about? Because when I 807 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 4: saw this, I might we just got one in the mail. Yeah, 808 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 4: what a brand that we were working with centers Over. 809 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, this guy has a suitcase that just 810 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 4: holds his bike. 811 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, how that come about? Man's levels to this ship? 812 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 3: You feel me? So, you know, you know, like I'm 813 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 3: doing things. No, but I've been. I've been working with 814 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 3: the with Remover for a few years now. They show 815 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 3: love it's some product, they got something going on, they'll 816 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 3: hit me up. It was like a friend of the 817 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 3: brand and opportunity came to do a collaboration with him. 818 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 3: I was like, when we got to do a bike case. 819 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 3: You know, for like a few years, I've been traveling 820 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 3: with my bike in a golf bag, right, like a 821 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 3: travel golf brack, which is not made for my bike, 822 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 3: but it fits in there. Yeah, you gotta take it apart, 823 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 3: take it apart, put in the bag. It's pattered, so 824 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 3: it's cool. I was like, man like, let's create a 825 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 3: product that kind of solves that's not solved, but it's 826 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 3: a solution for when I'm traveling with my bicycle. Let's 827 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 3: make it with my bike and my needs in mind. 828 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 3: So I started working on the project last year and 829 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 3: we released it a few months ago, and it was 830 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 3: super dope, man Like. People know Remova being this very 831 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 3: elite luxury travel brand, you know, so to see them 832 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 3: step outside of the box and do something completely different. 833 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 3: But it makes sense though because I used that product, 834 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 3: you know. But it was just dope. Man. It was 835 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 3: definitely one of those things whereas the highlight of the 836 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 3: year for me thus far, you know, outside of this 837 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 3: right So it's a big moment right here, man. Like. 838 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 6: Leveraging social media extremely important. You have, like I said, 839 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 6: five hundred and two Instagram followers, four hundreds two thousand 840 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 6: Instagram followers, and you on YouTube and everything like that. 841 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 6: How do you curate how you want to be perceived 842 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 6: on social media? Do you do your own social media? 843 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 6: What's your strategy for marketing yourself online, Like as an athlete. 844 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 6: This is things that you know, previous generation didn't have 845 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 6: to worrkorry about, like Michael Jordan didn't have to worry 846 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 6: about Twitter or TikTok or Instagram. And this is just 847 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 6: like kind of a new phenomenon. And some people have 848 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 6: really benefited from it and able to you know, get 849 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 6: themselves into you know, become household names because of it, 850 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 6: and some people still kind of struggle with it. They 851 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 6: don't really know how to how to handle it. So, yeah, 852 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 6: how have you navigated the world of social media? 853 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 3: I have a love hate relationship with social media, man, 854 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, But I mean I love 855 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 3: it more than I hate it. But no, man, like 856 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 3: for me again, like we spoke about earlier, right, content 857 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 3: and filming myself was always something I did, right, So 858 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 3: if you think about it, right, Like filming myself as 859 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 3: a kid was super important because the first time I 860 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 3: actually seeing myself ride, you know, like probably to that 861 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 3: I didn't see myself ride. So coming up in a 862 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 3: game where like we're filming every single day when we 863 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 3: have social media, it was like this amazing luxury now 864 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 3: because now we can take all the stuff that we're 865 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 3: filming and share it, you know. And I'm super particular 866 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 3: again how I like what I post, why I post it? 867 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not just posting anything and everything. Everything 868 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 3: for me is about telling the story, you know, and 869 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 3: understanding what my audience want to see, what they don't 870 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 3: want to see, you know, things I can use to 871 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 3: grow my audience as far as like a strategy. Man, 872 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 3: it's again, it's just about being authentically myself, you know. 873 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 3: I mean, never going outside my box or or trying 874 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 3: to do something that's like not me, you know what 875 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 3: I mean. I'm never also never being afraid to experiment, 876 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 3: but making sure that it's true to my DNA. So 877 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 3: that's how I pro social media. 878 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 4: This is something that we've you know, been very cognitant about, 879 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 4: and that's expanding the brand outside of the box that 880 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 4: they try to put you in. 881 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 3: Right. 882 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 4: So we obviously do financial education in the world of business, 883 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 4: but we have other things that we inspire to do, right, Fashion, food, travel. 884 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 3: I feel like you're on that similar path, right. I 885 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 3: seen you in s Y. People are actually following your 886 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 3: journey in fashion. 887 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 4: We met in Paris, I mean it was Paris fashion 888 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 4: so talk about that part of it, because it's not 889 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 4: just Hey, I'm the BMX athlete. There's some other things 890 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 4: that I want to explore professionally as well. 891 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 3: Of course, man, Like those things are super important to me, 892 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like at this point, like 893 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 3: bike rider is always going to be the core what 894 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 3: I do. But I have other interests, you know what 895 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 3: I mean, like fashion being a big one of those things, right, 896 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 3: and how I'm showing up in the fashion space, especially 897 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 3: coming from the lens. But BMX athlete, you know, we 898 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,919 Speaker 3: think about like travel and how that's a big part 899 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 3: of what I do. Design, you know, like design and products, right, 900 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 3: we designed sneakers, the remoter case, clothing, like all the 901 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 3: different things. And then like to think about financial literacy, right, 902 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 3: my foundation not disvested the foundation, just like we've launched 903 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 3: the financial literacy program with Chase Bank in one of 904 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 3: the high schools and queens in the month of April, 905 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 3: which is super dope. So all these things are very 906 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 3: important to me. And then natural extensions of my brand, 907 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 3: and I'm using my social media platform platforms to share 908 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 3: how I'm partaking in these things, you know, and telling 909 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 3: stories right through like these different lenses. But it's dope though, 910 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 3: like to have that freedom table to do other things. 911 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 3: You know, we kind of I kind of look at 912 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 3: it now where it's like there's this new age athlete 913 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 3: that is killing it within their sport, but also outside 914 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 3: of this sport, you know. So I've seen certain athletes 915 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 3: and we all have certain athletes that kill it on 916 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 3: the field or on the court, but also off the field, 917 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,919 Speaker 3: off the court, you know, like the Michael Jordan's Dion 918 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 3: Sande is the street of Williams, like Lebron James. So 919 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 3: for me, I look at that, it was like, well, 920 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,919 Speaker 3: I also want to be a killer on my bike. 921 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 3: I'm going to go out and do my thing and 922 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 3: always keep that pure when I'm not on my bike. 923 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 3: What am I doing? How am I continuing my storytelling? 924 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 3: How am I continue to build my brand when I'm 925 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 3: not physically two hands on the handle bars, two feet 926 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 3: on the pedals. 927 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,919 Speaker 6: So the financial literacy program to talk about that, right, 928 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,399 Speaker 6: how did the collaboration come about, Chase and what has 929 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 6: been your journey and you know, financial literacy and becoming 930 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 6: more stupid. 931 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 3: So in twenty twenty one, we launched my foundation and 932 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 3: I was inspired to launch it because like, man, like, 933 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 3: how do I continue to give back to children and 934 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 3: communities in need through bicycle riding? You know? And we 935 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 3: launched it. We actually announced it on a good moring 936 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,720 Speaker 3: in America, which is amazing. We brought out like fifteen 937 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 3: kids surprising them with bikes. We shut down Times Square, 938 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 3: amazing moment. And I just started to do more and 939 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 3: more with the foundation. I was like, man, well, how 940 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 3: do we again support these like these kids in these 941 00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 3: communities beyond just making them mobile giving them bicycles, Teaching 942 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 3: them about bicycle riding was also important. That kids are 943 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 3: necessarily learning in school, you know, or may have a 944 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 3: hard time learning at home because no one at home 945 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 3: is there teaching them that, or they may not be 946 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 3: aware of it. So financial literacy became a goal and 947 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: having to connect with chases. Literally I was just in 948 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 3: the right place of the. 949 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 6: Right So you personally always financially literate? Or did you 950 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 6: have to learn about. 951 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 3: To learn as well? 952 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 6: Like you had to learn what your journey and learn 953 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 6: you make mistakes like you know with your journey first check, 954 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 6: well we did. 955 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 3: Jeans a lot of teens. No, man, I didn't. I 956 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 3: didn't really start to get hip into about how to 957 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 3: really take control of my financial freedom and my asses 958 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 3: until I got a proper financial advisor, you know what 959 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 3: I mean. Like, prior to that, I would say, but I 960 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 3: wasn't saving in a way that I needed to be saved. 961 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 3: I wasn't investing in the way I needed to be investing. 962 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 3: And I was very fortunate that early on in my career, 963 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 3: one of the team managers that at a brand I 964 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 3: was riding for, it's like, yo, let me you took 965 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 3: a financial advisor so to teach me about how money 966 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 3: works in these different things, And that was one of 967 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 3: the best things that could ever happen to me. You know, 968 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,280 Speaker 3: we hear so many athletes, Yah, I started making money 969 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 3: and you're blowing it crazy, like you're doing whatever it is, 970 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,919 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So to not fall into 971 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 3: that was definitely a blessing. 972 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 4: You said something very important earlier that when you were 973 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 4: recording the content was the first time that you were 974 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 4: seeing yourself ride. It's kind of like a double N tantra, right, 975 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 4: Like the first time you're seeing yourself, but like there's 976 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 4: not anybody that looks like you're doing this. First generation. Yeah, 977 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 4: families from Grenada. Correct, Ye, there's a lot. I mean 978 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 4: it's West Indians. Man, that's not the traditional route that 979 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 4: they're seeing as a professional career. Talk about that the 980 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 4: representation that or responsibility that you feel as being the 981 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 4: biggest in your but also being the representation for the 982 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 4: kids that look like you. 983 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 3: So there were other kids that rode in my neighborhood 984 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 3: of Laurelon right that OLSA was first generation, and they 985 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 3: did dead things. But a lot of those kids fell off, 986 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,439 Speaker 3: like as they got dropped, his license got a little older, 987 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 3: it was like this ain't going nowhere, which completely understandable. 988 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 3: And when I started to again, like travel around New 989 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 3: York City, I met other kids who came from similar situations, right, 990 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 3: first generation, whether it's parents from dr or Jamaica, whatever 991 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 3: the case may be. So it was a pocket of us. 992 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 3: It was just when you think about BEMX riding on 993 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 3: a professional level and action sports on the professional level, 994 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 3: there's not many of us, you know what I mean. 995 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 3: So I definitely went through those times where it was like, man, 996 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 3: there's a lot of friction, you know what I mean, 997 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 3: the fact that I was at black but that I 998 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 3: am a black BMX athlete. You know what I mean. 999 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 3: I dealt with those things within the industry, you know 1000 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 3: what I mean, people hating on me, or people saying 1001 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 3: crazy whatever, you know what I mean, Like or even 1002 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 3: when I'm doing certain projects, certain things and I'm using 1003 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 3: rap music or I'm literally just telling stories or I'm 1004 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 3: a reflection of what I what I've seen coming up, 1005 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 3: and people within the industry not understanding it, you know, 1006 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 3: like that was just part of it. And I do 1007 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 3: feel that now, like I do have this responsibility to 1008 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 3: represent for us, you know. And there's a kid, there's 1009 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 3: a young black kid someone in the world right now 1010 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 3: that's watching what I'm doing that wants to be the 1011 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 3: next professional BMX athlete, you know what I mean. And 1012 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 3: I feel part of what I'm doing now is opening 1013 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 3: doors for that kid, the same way that athletes prior 1014 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 3: to me open the door for me. You know. It's 1015 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 3: kind of just just just like the way the circle 1016 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,720 Speaker 3: of life works. 1017 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 5: So you said, like you felt racism, was that from 1018 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 5: your counterparts or from corporate or from all of the above. 1019 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 3: It was definitely from certain counterparts, certain people within like 1020 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 3: the industry and just being a black man in general 1021 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 3: moving around the world. Like when I was leaving Paris 1022 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 3: like a couple weeks ago, man, like I'm an important 1023 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 3: and I felt it, you know what I mean, And 1024 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 3: that didn't feel good at all. Like but it's just. 1025 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 5: Like people looking at. 1026 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 3: You, like they put me through this crazy security chuck 1027 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 3: for no reason. It was like it was wild, bro, 1028 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 3: you know, and I've I've been traveling around the world 1029 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 3: since I was eighteen, so I've been on a lot 1030 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 3: of planes, a lot of airports around the world. This 1031 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 3: was overboard check and I felt that, you know, yeah, 1032 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 3: this is the airport, right, there's going to be certain 1033 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 3: security measures. But this it felt like it had like 1034 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 3: that it had like that yuck on it. It was like, oh, yeah, 1035 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 3: you're doing this because of my skin zone, because I'm 1036 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 3: well dressed, got my watch on, you know what I mean. 1037 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 3: Like it was just it was one of those type situations. 1038 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 6: So you think that that like, you obviously have done 1039 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 6: good in sponsorships, but do you think that you would. 1040 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,240 Speaker 5: Have more sponsorships if you if you were white? 1041 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 6: Do you think think that you got like has that 1042 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 6: affected your brand partnerships and different things and opportunities that 1043 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 6: have come You think you have more opportunities if you 1044 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 6: were white. 1045 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 3: I couldn't necessarily say that because like when I look 1046 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 3: at what I've created for myself, you know, I mean 1047 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 3: what I've been blessed with, man like, I literally work 1048 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 3: with the best brands in the world, you know. So 1049 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 3: I couldn't say, like, I couldn't answer that honestly, you 1050 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 3: know what I mean? 1051 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 4: Do you do you at some point, right, I'm going 1052 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,839 Speaker 4: back to like when you got signed at eighteen, At 1053 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 4: some point do you find see yourself being the organization 1054 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 4: or the company to the enterprise that starts to sign young 1055 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 4: BMX writers, right and giving them the opportunity, especially the 1056 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 4: ones that look at you based on some of the 1057 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 4: things that you said that you face coming up and 1058 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:45,839 Speaker 4: still face now. 1059 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 3: Of course. I mean, like I've been helping young kids 1060 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 3: young like young kids ride BMX for years. It's not 1061 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 3: something that I'm going to publicize like that and doing 1062 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 3: it from my heart. I actually want to do it. 1063 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 3: I don't want to see kids find success and find 1064 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 3: a way out through a bicycle rider, you know. And 1065 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 3: I have a brand, the Go brand, where like we're 1066 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,839 Speaker 3: starting to sign guys underneath that label and help him out, 1067 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like help him avoid some 1068 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 3: of those pitfalls or some of those setbacks that I 1069 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 3: have to deal with when I was when I was 1070 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 3: coming up, I get out to just think that's super important. 1071 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 6: So, how has like you've been in it for a 1072 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 6: long time, right, what's your perception on how the sport 1073 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:35,839 Speaker 6: in the culture has evolved over the last ten fifteen years. 1074 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 3: I think it's so like the point you made earlier, right, 1075 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 3: where like you look at the fabric culture and you 1076 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 3: see BMX riding, skateboarding, action sports, and it's just part 1077 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 3: of it. Now it just makes sense, right, Like you 1078 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 3: see music videos and like there's bikes in there, or 1079 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 3: there's kids skateboarding in there, you know what I mean. 1080 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 3: It's a lot the clothes that's inspired by action sports culture, 1081 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 3: you know. So I just think like it goes hand 1082 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 3: to hand. Like you look at streetwear, right, some of 1083 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 3: the biggest streetwear brands are action sports kids who like 1084 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 3: rode bikes and skateboarder, you know what I mean. And 1085 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 3: now we see like everyone rocking those brands like Supreme 1086 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 3: for example, one of the biggest, one of the biggest. 1087 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,240 Speaker 6: Well I was going to ask you about the fashion 1088 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 6: because Jim Jones played a part in this. We forgot 1089 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 6: about him. He didn't ride bikes or he didn't ride, 1090 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 6: but he dressed like a skateboarder and him said they 1091 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 6: was wearing those chains biker. Nobody was doing that and 1092 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 6: that actually impacted I think how people viewed the sport 1093 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 6: as well, because, like you said, supreme and a bunch 1094 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 6: of other things, like it became cool to dress like 1095 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,760 Speaker 6: a skateboarder or to dress like a biker. And once 1096 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 6: fashion is a very important part. Once fashion starts to 1097 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 6: be accepted, then culture starts to be It's like African 1098 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 6: culture now right now. Once the culture and people start 1099 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 6: to actually they want to dress like in the additional garbs, 1100 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,799 Speaker 6: now that actually makes the culture just more acceptable. Now 1101 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 6: people want to travel in because of the fashion is 1102 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 6: kind of leading the way. So hip hop culture, what's 1103 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 6: your thoughts on on that aspect as far as you know, 1104 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 6: hip hop culture blending with it in the fashion kind 1105 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 6: of helping to transition awareness to what you guys had 1106 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:22,399 Speaker 6: going on. 1107 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 3: I love it. It's the reason why write like a lot 1108 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 3: of the videos that we put out, the majority of them, 1109 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 3: we're using these like rap music, hip hop music, you know, 1110 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 3: and shout out to Jimmy Right, it's funny you say 1111 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 3: that because he hit the other day was like I 1112 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:43,920 Speaker 3: used to ride bikes. We were at this at this 1113 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 3: Kiff dinner. He was talking about the bikes, how he 1114 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 3: was younger when he used to race. Actually, yeah, yeah, 1115 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 3: I think that's the magic about Bicylecarada. So many of 1116 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 3: us have experienced it on different levels. You may not 1117 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 3: been going down a handrail, jumping downstairs. That feeling that 1118 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 3: freedom you get that that like joy and excitement you 1119 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 3: get when you're riding a bike super fast, like down 1120 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 3: like down the street, Like it's yeah, it's everything. It's 1121 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 3: just one of a kind of feeling. Man. So the 1122 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 3: fact that we start to see hip hop and fashion 1123 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 3: start to embrace bike sucar ride and action sports man, 1124 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 3: that's that's super dope to me. Like it's super fire Man. 1125 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 3: You can even pull up on YouTube. It's certain clips 1126 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 3: you got real like riding around on bicycles, like doing 1127 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 3: tricks like standing up on the top tube and whatnot. 1128 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like to see that, to 1129 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 3: see what like Wayne is doing. Man, to see to 1130 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 3: see these guys participate, it's dope because we are fans 1131 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 3: of them and now they're becoming fans of us. You know, Yeah, 1132 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 3: it's incredible. 1133 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 4: Watch so for that that BMX rider that that's eighteen seventeen. 1134 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 3: You've watched the space go from. 1135 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 4: A space where not many odds on it to space 1136 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 4: where it's become super, super lucrative. 1137 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 3: Your route is kind of is untraditional, right, un convention you. 1138 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 4: Know where it's like you focus on the brand, not 1139 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 4: going on contest, but as more money and more brands 1140 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 4: come into it, I see them doing. There's more X 1141 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 4: games now. I'm like, there's a Winter's X Games, there's 1142 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 4: the summer the street X Games. Would the route be, hey, 1143 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 4: maybe try to compete and build your brand at the 1144 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 4: same time, or what would you. 1145 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 3: Advise the younger writer that's about to begin his career, 1146 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 3: Do what works for you, you know what I mean. 1147 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, I took a very non traditional route in 1148 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 3: a non traditional sport and like made it work. Right, 1149 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 3: That's not the only way to do it. There's other 1150 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 3: ways to go about it. I'll say. The most important 1151 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 3: thing this is with anything is to be consistent. I mean, 1152 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 3: like my goal was always to kill them all year 1153 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 3: every year. I wanted to just drive moments you know 1154 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 3: what I mean, whether it against the content or whether 1155 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 3: it's a product, whether it's an event we're doing, no 1156 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 3: matter what it is, I just want to stay active 1157 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 3: and be consistent. And I feel like being consistent for 1158 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 3: all of these years has me has led me to 1159 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 3: where I'm at now. You know where I'm collaborating with again, 1160 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 3: some of the biggest brands in the world. I'm able 1161 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 3: to live out my imagination like literally, like anything I 1162 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 3: could think of right now, it's a way as will 1163 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 3: I could figure it out. I was going through one 1164 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 3: of my own notepads a few days ago. I was 1165 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 3: cleaning out my storage unit and I found notes I'm 1166 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 3: like twenty fourteen of me talking about the Ghosters and 1167 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 3: like what I'm gonna do with it? And I read it. 1168 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 3: It gave me chills bro to see that like I 1169 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 3: accomplished like all these things that I have envisioned, you 1170 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 3: know what I mean. But again, it was about being consistent. 1171 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 3: It was about having that vision and taking a step 1172 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 3: by step like nothing happens overnight, you know, like legit, 1173 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 3: like it's a marathon, you know what I mean. And 1174 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 3: I realized it was gonna be a marathon, like a 1175 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 3: few years into my career. This is not gonna happen 1176 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 3: overnight for me, you know what I mean. We speak 1177 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 3: about how like when I'm coming up, a lot of 1178 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 3: these social media platforms weren't even a thing yet, right, 1179 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 3: you know, like I was ahead of that. These guys 1180 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 3: like y'all got it easy, right, you know what I mean, 1181 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 3: Like y'all got it so good. You go out, you 1182 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 3: can film on your phone. You don't need a whole 1183 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 3: film crew. You could throw it up right now, you 1184 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like I had to figure out 1185 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 3: these different things and transition with how social media was 1186 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 3: working and how media in itself was operating, you know. 1187 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 3: But again, like even through all of those changes, it 1188 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 3: was about being consistent. Like that consistency, man is everything. 1189 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 3: You know. 1190 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 6: So you have any mentors and like business or in 1191 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 6: the sport now currently or you know just in life 1192 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 6: that are helped guiding you through navigating you know this 1193 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 6: is a good deal. 1194 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 5: Don't do this, you know, watch how you do this? 1195 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 6: Different things nature like do you have og or you 1196 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 6: know somebody that you look up to in the in 1197 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 6: the space I do. 1198 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 3: Again, I've been very fortunate too to have relationships for 1199 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 3: a lot of now seeing mostly certain brands, you know 1200 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 3: what I mean, and like having these guys in my 1201 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 3: corner right an amazing having these like an amazing team 1202 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 3: around me, you know what I mean. I'm signed to 1203 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 3: a bunch of few different agencies and like having a 1204 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 3: solid team around me that the decisions that I'm making, 1205 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 3: it's not just me, like I want to do this, 1206 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 3: I will do it, and we discuss everything. You know, 1207 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 3: my day one is still around me. Which friends? Your friends, 1208 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 3: my friends? 1209 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 5: What do they do? 1210 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 3: Oh? My boy Ralphie, he's a head of all content 1211 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 3: for me and everything right now. So he's so he's 1212 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 3: with me all the time. Some other boys they got 1213 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 3: like quote unquote like regular jobs, I guess you want 1214 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 3: to say, you. 1215 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 6: Know, or they just they don't necessarily work with you 1216 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 6: doing it. 1217 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 3: It's just like it's a place I can go to 1218 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 3: where it's for advice. I could get sound advice. You know, 1219 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 3: people who actually know me, care about me, who see 1220 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 3: me come up in this journey, you know what I mean. 1221 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 3: So again, having good people around you. You know, we 1222 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 3: go back to speaking about relationships. How important is to 1223 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 3: foster relationships, you know what I mean? Like those are 1224 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 3: those are super important to me, you know, very very 1225 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 3: valuable for me. 1226 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 6: How much time do you spend on your craft coming up? 1227 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 6: And now, like how many hours were you actually practicing 1228 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 6: when you want to come up? And how much time 1229 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 6: do you actually dedicate to still practice? 1230 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 3: Now my business has changed, right so of course when 1231 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 3: I'm younger, and the only thing I was focused on 1232 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 3: was riding my bicycle every day, you know what I mean. 1233 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 3: Like now it's still out all the time, but it's 1234 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 3: a little different. I have to now allocate energy and 1235 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 3: time to other things, right Like coming up with a design, 1236 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 3: coming up with an idea for a piece of content 1237 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 3: doesn't happen over now you got to sit down and 1238 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 3: I should work on that at least I do, you 1239 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 3: know what I mean? But I always say like I've 1240 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 3: put my ten thousand hours in ten times and still counting, 1241 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I'm still learning, still practicing, 1242 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 3: still sharpening my sword, all in in pursuit of being great. 1243 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 6: Because I just always I'm just interested to know how 1244 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 6: different people, you know, how they work. Because I used 1245 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 6: to play basketball, so like I know, like I used 1246 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 6: to wake up and play basketball and then like work 1247 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 6: out like lift weights and then run and then pay 1248 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 6: summer league tournament. So it was literally like eight o'clock 1249 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 6: in the morning to eight o'clock at night sometimes like 1250 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 6: all day. So I was just interested to know like 1251 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 6: when you were on the like was it two hours? 1252 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 5: Was it six hours? Was it just we just out just. 1253 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 3: Out all day all day? Good? Right out? We out 1254 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 3: all day because like it's like a lifestyle sport right 1255 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 3: where it's like the guys I was riding with actually 1256 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 3: my friends, you know, so. 1257 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 6: Not so much as a practice. It's just it's more 1258 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 6: a freestyle you just riding. You're not like doing drills. 1259 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 3: Like yeah, like we're not like I'm not saying we 1260 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 3: need to go do fifty bunny, Like that's not the case. 1261 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 3: As well, we're gonna go to the skate park. Geh, 1262 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 3: Like you're only a four and a half fag, gotta 1263 01:03:58,800 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 3: get up to the five. 1264 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 6: But it wasn't like that because it's interesting because that's 1265 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,040 Speaker 6: how most sports are, right right right, Like you know 1266 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So it's like most sports. You run track, 1267 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 6: you're running one hundred sprints. You play basketball, you gotta 1268 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 6: get a thousand jump shots up, like you know, so 1269 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 6: your sport is interesting because I never even realized that, 1270 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 6: like you're not technic, you never really practice, you're just freestyling. 1271 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 3: It's it's it's I want to say, we don't never practice, 1272 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 3: because say I'm gonna go out and like do this 1273 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 3: trick that I've never done before, and say it's like 1274 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,280 Speaker 3: a four trick combo. 1275 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 5: Your work. 1276 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 3: You're gonna gonna go work each part of that combo 1277 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna get to the spot where I'm 1278 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 3: ready to go film it and then put it all 1279 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 3: together right like like right then and there and film it, 1280 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like so again, like we're 1281 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 3: not going to the to the park and saying y'all 1282 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 3: got to do a hundred tail whips, but I'm gonna 1283 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:45,760 Speaker 3: go to the park and do a bunch of tails 1284 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 3: so I feel good with it where I know I 1285 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,640 Speaker 3: can do it on command, you know what I mean. 1286 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 3: Like it's it's that, It's that it's that repetition, over 1287 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 3: and over and over practice until you get it to 1288 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 3: the point where like you can do it one take 1289 01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:58,919 Speaker 3: every single time. 1290 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 4: Is there a trick you know, like you say, like 1291 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 4: the Bigkerhua was the wave to ride and then skateboard 1292 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 4: and it was like, if somebody could do a seven twenty, right, 1293 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 4: that would be incredible. 1294 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 3: Until somebody does the seven twenty. 1295 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 4: Is they're like that that trick that the BMX riders 1296 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,560 Speaker 4: is like, if anybody can pull that off, they're going 1297 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 4: to be the greatest. 1298 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 3: They no like this because there's so many different tricks 1299 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 3: that hasn't been done yet that it's like there's not 1300 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 3: just this one trick where like if you do this 1301 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 3: just like the ultimate, it doesn't work like that, you know, 1302 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 3: because like nowadays, like we're linking for five different tricks 1303 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 3: together and like one like run you know, triple hands right, 1304 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 3: you handle bar spend, manual grind, manual bar spind. It's 1305 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 3: like some video It's like it's like video games, you 1306 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 3: know what I mean, And each of us have a 1307 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 3: different kind of level of difficulty and you can do 1308 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 3: them regular, you can do them switch I would to 1309 01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 3: fine out. It's like writing with your right handed and 1310 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 3: writing with your left hand, you know, to learn how 1311 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,919 Speaker 3: to do tricks the other way. That's an unnatural way. 1312 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's it's it's it's it's not that 1313 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 3: where it's like that that's like a big wave you 1314 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 3: ride this thing like. 1315 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 4: But even like back to what Shaddy was saying, it's interesting, 1316 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 4: right like when he was doing that, he's practicing to 1317 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 4: craft uh his skill, but it's also conditioning it. So 1318 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 4: like how how do you train for like when you're 1319 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 4: right like or is it just naturally that I'm outside, so. 1320 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 3: You're naturally outside? So just that's that's the training here, 1321 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,760 Speaker 3: because like any given day, I'm riding at least thirty 1322 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 3: forty miles without even thinking about it, and then the 1323 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 3: tricks on top of that. Right, So I might go in, 1324 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,720 Speaker 3: i might go to the skate park and I might 1325 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 3: just go hard for two hours, like NonStop. Like that's 1326 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 3: the condition in itself, you know what I mean. Like 1327 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 3: if you got a distance, you're lifting a bike up 1328 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 3: a lot of aver work bodies. It's a lot of 1329 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 3: call workers, you know what I mean. So it's the 1330 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 3: bike has always been the workout for me, you know 1331 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,120 Speaker 3: what I mean. There was certain parts of my career 1332 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 3: where after injury, I got into the gym and I 1333 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 3: worked on like certain things just to get stronger again. 1334 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 3: But a lot of times it's just it's just riding. 1335 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,440 Speaker 6: What do you see the future of the sport going 1336 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 6: like where do you see it? 1337 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 3: It's limitless, man, I feel like the sports in a 1338 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 3: weird place right now, right Like we're lacking like traditional 1339 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 3: BMX media, you know what I mean, Like we don't 1340 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 3: have many like BMX focused outlets. 1341 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 5: I was gonna say it because of ESPN. They don'tly 1342 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 5: cover it too much Jesus. 1343 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 3: So it's even like that right where like compared to 1344 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 3: like a basketball or football, hockey or whatever, like we 1345 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 3: don't got stephen A talking about Oh did you see 1346 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,960 Speaker 3: the bar span and not you just did you know 1347 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,439 Speaker 3: what I mean? They're not covering it like that because again, 1348 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 3: it's just it's a it's a neat sport. 1349 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,400 Speaker 5: Is that because there's been a decline in viewership because 1350 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:41,920 Speaker 5: they used. 1351 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 3: To they they ESPN would normally covered only when X 1352 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 3: Games came and rest that's one time of year, and 1353 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 3: then they put too many channels. Now you don't know 1354 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 3: when you know what's going channel you'll know what's going on, 1355 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 3: and then even that again, so this is something I 1356 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,520 Speaker 3: realized too. X Games is a TV show and they 1357 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 3: need to get viewers, so they're only going to put 1358 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:08,160 Speaker 3: the most like viewed like sports on for that hour 1359 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 3: and an hour and a half block they have and 1360 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 3: at a certain point in time, like it was like, well, 1361 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,080 Speaker 3: it kind of turned into like a circus in a 1362 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 3: sense where it's like we have this megabig ramp that 1363 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,599 Speaker 3: they like, the riders are riding. It's like this fifty 1364 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,519 Speaker 3: foot ramp. I'm even like, how do you even go 1365 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 3: down that? Yeah? I think is this is nervous man 1366 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 3: like and like at that point in time, it was like, well, 1367 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 3: I don't ride mega ramps. What you find in a 1368 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 3: mega ramp in the hood, like kids can't even relate 1369 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,040 Speaker 3: to it. It's again, it turned into like a circus 1370 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 3: in a sense, and it started it started to not 1371 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 3: highlight like the my style of BMX five the street 1372 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 3: riding as much. It's hat to highlight what's going to 1373 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,719 Speaker 3: get the most views. And you started to see certain 1374 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,759 Speaker 3: guys who depended on the X games started to lose deals, 1375 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,720 Speaker 3: not be as relevant anymore because you're depending on this 1376 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,599 Speaker 3: third party entity for how far you can go. That's 1377 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,719 Speaker 3: also for me when I realized that, I was like, Okay, 1378 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 3: I don't care about that, And it also contributed to 1379 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 3: me like you know what, I'm gonna just do my 1380 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 3: thing over here. I'm gonna use social media. I can 1381 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 3: control it, and I'm a bubble up that way. I'm 1382 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,559 Speaker 3: gonna use YouTube, I'm gonna use the internet. 1383 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 5: But ship I don't. 1384 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 6: I don't mean to distract you, but you said it's 1385 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,760 Speaker 6: in a weird space right now, because there's not a 1386 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:17,639 Speaker 6: lot of mainstream media. 1387 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 3: It's not a lot of mainstream media talking about it. Also, 1388 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,240 Speaker 3: like we don't have like those BMX like only media outlets, right, 1389 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 3: Like the biggest magazine we had they got acquired by 1390 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 3: a bigger company and then they dissolved it. You know, 1391 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 3: Like we have certain websites and whatnot, but it's not 1392 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,160 Speaker 3: like those big media outlets that are really talking about 1393 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 3: BMX and like pushing it out. You know. 1394 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 5: So how do you how do we how do we 1395 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 5: fix this? How do we get it more visible? 1396 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,719 Speaker 3: We need we need people that are passionate about covering 1397 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 3: BMX athletes and the supported BMX. 1398 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:55,520 Speaker 5: Do we need out Do we need more notable figures? 1399 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 3: We need we need we need that too, right, Like 1400 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 3: we have some amazing BMX athletes around the These guys 1401 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,600 Speaker 3: aren't incredible, right, young kids coming up their fire, you know, 1402 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,360 Speaker 3: but they still need time to develop and build their brand, right, 1403 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,800 Speaker 3: you know, and you get you know what it is, right, 1404 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 3: Like you may be one of the best bike riders 1405 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 3: in the world, right, but you have to care about 1406 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,320 Speaker 3: that as well, you know what I mean. Like a 1407 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,160 Speaker 3: lot of things that people have seen me do throughout 1408 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 3: my career, I cared about those other things, you know 1409 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 3: what I mean, Like I cared about being in the 1410 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,800 Speaker 3: ESPN Body issue, where I cared about being on like 1411 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 3: a Forbes list or any of these things, like these 1412 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,680 Speaker 3: things that I like care about, care about going to 1413 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 3: passing Fashion Week, you know what I mean, and like 1414 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 3: collaborating with certain fashion brands doing these things. So it's 1415 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 3: I feel it's like it's not just one thing, it's 1416 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,600 Speaker 3: a mixture of things that's gonna need to happen to 1417 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 3: take the sports like that next level. Do you know 1418 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,160 Speaker 3: what I care about? What's that sneakers? Love sneakers, I 1419 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 3: know you care about as well. 1420 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,720 Speaker 4: Can we talk about the bike in I don't think 1421 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 4: I've ever seen Nike take the end off the shoe before. Man, 1422 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,479 Speaker 4: what was that conversation? Like, what's the status with it? 1423 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 4: I told you you in past and said, yo, in 1424 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,160 Speaker 4: order for us to do some of these guys got 1425 01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 4: at least I ain't say like, I'm just saying that 1426 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 4: they could be on the tape. 1427 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 3: Shouldn't it be last night? Like Yo, bring his kicks? 1428 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,879 Speaker 3: I would have brought them with me. Bro, what happened? 1429 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,120 Speaker 3: How did this happen? Right? Because when I saw my ky, 1430 01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, he took it to a different level. Man, 1431 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:28,240 Speaker 3: took the end off of it. That was bike hair 1432 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 3: is crazy. Like we think we think about Nike as 1433 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:38,120 Speaker 3: a brand as this incredible institution, right, and we've seen 1434 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,559 Speaker 3: classics come out of Nike as far as sneakers, clothes, whatever, 1435 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,680 Speaker 3: commercials on the different things. But to have the opportunity 1436 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 3: to take the end off and put it b there, 1437 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,960 Speaker 3: and like who better to do it than me? You 1438 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 3: know what I mean? It's perfect. It was the moment. 1439 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,200 Speaker 3: And I think we do got some more bike are 1440 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 3: stuff coming out. We'll see, but yeah, it was. It's 1441 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 3: one of those things where it's a legit dream come true, 1442 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I remember watching some of 1443 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 3: those classic commercials, right, whether it's like the Jordan Spike joints, so, 1444 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 3: whether it's that one like and one mixtape inspired commercially 1445 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 3: with Bouncing the ball and beat, you know what I mean. 1446 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,559 Speaker 3: And you see some of the stuff like getting like 1447 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,320 Speaker 3: these classic images of Dion and Nikes and bron and 1448 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 3: Kobe and all these amazing people. Man Like, it's such 1449 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 3: a rich heritage. So to be able to contribute to 1450 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 3: that with delivering bike air man, it's again, it's it 1451 01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,880 Speaker 3: was a groundbreaking moment. Were they accepting of it the 1452 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 3: idea at first? Yeah, it was with it right away. 1453 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,880 Speaker 3: It was crazy. It was one was like it was 1454 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:41,800 Speaker 3: it was weird enough to be like cool, we're gonna 1455 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,240 Speaker 3: we're gonna try it and put it on it and 1456 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 3: see what happens, you know. And then the response from 1457 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:51,040 Speaker 3: it that was that's what really took it over the top, right, 1458 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like to have people from 1459 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 3: order for walks of life wanting to have a Nike 1460 01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:00,400 Speaker 3: that says bike on it. You know it's perfect. It's yeah, 1461 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,839 Speaker 3: it's perfect, bro, you know, friends and family. So hopefully 1462 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 3: after this, you know, we've become part of that right 1463 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,760 Speaker 3: to get those kicks man, and even like to do 1464 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 3: to do bike air on this silhouette that we did 1465 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,960 Speaker 3: it on on the airship. This is the first shoe 1466 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 3: that Jordan Wall when he came into the league before 1467 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 3: the Jordan one. You know, so like that, like that 1468 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:27,840 Speaker 3: shoe tells a story of proving yourself of beginnings. So 1469 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 3: to put bike here or something that's brand new, that's 1470 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:35,720 Speaker 3: that's just starting on that silhouette. It's again it goes 1471 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,559 Speaker 3: back to that storytelling you. 1472 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 6: It's been honor my brother. So what do you have 1473 01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,320 Speaker 6: coming up? What do you want to make the people 1474 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 6: aware of? What's any announcements anything like that. 1475 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 3: No, I mean, I'm a huge fan of the element 1476 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,400 Speaker 3: of surprise, right, so like of course you're going to 1477 01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 3: know I'm working, right, We're always clicking up. It's just 1478 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,160 Speaker 3: I'm just wired like that, you know what I mean. 1479 01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 3: But I to have people just wake up one morning 1480 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,519 Speaker 3: and go on the ground and be like what is 1481 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,759 Speaker 3: he doing now? Like like how did this happen? But 1482 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 3: but no, overall, we got some content coming up. We 1483 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 3: got my stuff with the Foundation that I'm really excited about. 1484 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,400 Speaker 3: It's going to be just gonna be dope. Got more 1485 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,679 Speaker 3: product coming, just keep pushing. 1486 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, as you were talking, I thought of a brand 1487 01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 4: that has been hurting over the past two years that's 1488 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,600 Speaker 4: involved with bikes and a not in the way that 1489 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,800 Speaker 4: you are. But imagine you being on the ride peloton, 1490 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 4: Like imagine like you said, you rode forty miles like 1491 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 4: we've been like we've run on a peloton. I'm like, 1492 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 4: this thing's ridiculous. But imagine if they had you as 1493 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:38,639 Speaker 4: like as a cast riding on. 1494 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 3: That peloton as as simple as that. Yeah, they they 1495 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 3: need to they need some help over the like question 1496 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,600 Speaker 3: like do you have a peloton? I do? Do you 1497 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,840 Speaker 3: use it often? I do, not as often as I 1498 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,320 Speaker 3: would like to, but I use it health experience. It's cool. 1499 01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 3: There's like a bunch of trainers that you can go 1500 01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:58,560 Speaker 3: go with. 1501 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,439 Speaker 4: I usually ride with Alex okay and he because he 1502 01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,599 Speaker 4: plays hip hop music right right, So I would imagine 1503 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,879 Speaker 4: you being on there playing the hip hop music. And 1504 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,560 Speaker 4: I mean, you can change the settings on it. You 1505 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,720 Speaker 4: can change the resistance, you can choose the speed, but 1506 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 4: just having guests people come on there to. 1507 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:20,600 Speaker 3: Alex Man, Yeah, Alex. It was funny because we were 1508 01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:24,680 Speaker 3: we were posted to meet in Barcelona earlier things last 1509 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,800 Speaker 3: though late last year because we both found were signed 1510 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,400 Speaker 3: the smart Waterka like this commercial, like this global commercial 1511 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 3: in Barcelona and he shot the day before me had left, 1512 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 3: so we adjustment each other. But I might have to 1513 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 3: high like Alex and see what's cracking you. 1514 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:46,760 Speaker 6: Yes, right link out we go take ten percent as 1515 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:47,640 Speaker 6: you should. 1516 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 3: Listen. Energy is not free, all bro, that's the new shirt, 1517 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,639 Speaker 3: not free man. 1518 01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,880 Speaker 6: So it's been a pleasure, brother, I thank you, look 1519 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,160 Speaker 6: forward to Lincoln of course in any collaborate that we 1520 01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,600 Speaker 6: can do. You know, wish you best of luck and 1521 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,240 Speaker 6: everything that you've got going on. Definitely follow your journey, 1522 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,439 Speaker 6: continue to follow your journey, keep paving away, keep being 1523 01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 6: a trailblaze. It's important absolute people to see representation. It's 1524 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,519 Speaker 6: extremely important. And you know that's probably one of the 1525 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,320 Speaker 6: biggest things that you can do is inspire somebody. So 1526 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,920 Speaker 6: you know, keep doing that. You never know who's impacted. 1527 01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:31,000 Speaker 3: At that part. You never know who's watching, man. Fact, 1528 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:31,880 Speaker 3: you never know, man. 1529 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 6: So we appreciate you, know, we support you, and thank 1530 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:37,280 Speaker 6: you guys for rocking with us. 1531 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 5: What's you next week? Peace? 1532 01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:42,240 Speaker 1: Peace An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a 1533 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,800 Speaker 1: child in Massachusetts. 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