1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: war room for in center news and draft analysis from 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: in Frisco, Dallas Cowboys like C. D. Lamb and now 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and Kyle 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Yeoman's It's a wonderful Thursday edition of the Draft Show, 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: presented by Miller Lite from the SWBC Mortgage Studios here 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: from the Star in Frisco, as we continue to get 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: you ready for the NFL Draft, as it is now 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: just eighty one days away. April twenty ninth is when 11 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: things kick off in Cleveland, Ohio, and it's starting to 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: get to be crunch time because well the Senior Bowl 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: is in the rear view mirror. The heat is starting 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: to get turned up on these front offices, and the 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: same thing goes for the Draft Show. Jeff Kavanaugh, We've 16 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: got Kevin kat Turner, Dane Brugler from the Athletic. I'm 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Yelman's just trying to drive the bus as always 18 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: here on this show. And gentlemen, the like I said, 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl in the rear view mirror, we talked about 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: it a little bit on Tuesday with Bucky Brooks. Brian 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: brought us and David Hellman and had a great conversation 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: about kind of the Cowboys feel with it. I kind 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: of want to get in to some of the prospects today. 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a lot about the quarterback position. We're 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the corners as well. In that secondary 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: we can the Cowboys find their type of corner, and 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: by type of corner, Jeff Kavanaugh has a different idea 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: of what type of corner he potentially wants to see 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: as a Dallas Cowboy. But Dane start us off by 30 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: kind of giving us your final general thoughts in terms 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: of the Senior Bowl. What you took from the week 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: down in Mobile. It was definitely weird. It was definitely different, 33 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: and you know, that's different than what we're used to. 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm very thankful that we 35 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: had it. You know, all the credit the Jim Nage 36 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: and his staff for we're being able to pull it 37 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: off um and a safe environment and gave the team's 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: opportunity to look at these guys even more, and it 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: also gave a lot of these players the opportunity to 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: help themselves and we are we touched on it, you know, 41 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: last week a little bit just you know, some of 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: the risers guys that helped themselves. But some of these players, 43 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, we we're gonna look at them totally different 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: now compared to uh, you know, a week ago because 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: of what they were able to do. Quinn Miners from Wisconsin, 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: Whitewater being you know, one of the biggest risers, a 47 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: guy like Richie Grant who I had a third round 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: grade on him, loved them coming into the week after 49 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: seeing him live and up close like that, he's going 50 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: in the top fifty. That's you know, you gained a 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: different bandage point. I think seeing these guys live, at 52 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: least for me, and that's you know, my process and 53 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: the way I look at these guys. Um, you know, 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: but a lot of other players helped themselves. D Escridge 55 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: from Western Michigan. Um, you know, it's just it's a 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: loaded group of slot receivers in that second to fourth 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: round range. How were these guys guys gonna really shake 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: out in terms of how they're gonna be stacked? And 59 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, Dskridge and Marie Rogers and Shy Smith. The 60 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: guys that were down there, Kaye Johnson, they were able 61 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: to make, you know, kind of a statement like why 62 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: they should be a little bit higher. So just a 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: really productive week and I think we have a better 64 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: feel for these players now than we did before the 65 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Katie. Yeah, I would say my thoughts, and 66 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a jerk, but if I 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: was a cornerback, I would not go to the Senior 68 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: Bowl ever again because all the wide receivers are really good. 69 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: And I'm kind of kidding, I'm sort of kidding a 70 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: little bit, but it was amazing how you know, you 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: go into the week with an eye on cornerbacks and 72 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: you just get distracted by all of the wide receiver talent. 73 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: And I'm in this world right now. I don't know 74 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: how you guys look on your boards. And I know 75 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: on the Thursday incarnation of the Draft Show, we haven't 76 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: done a lot of wide receiver talk yet, partially because 77 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are kind of set there. But I'm sitting 78 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: there going, Okay, am I really gonna have fifteen? Am 79 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: I really gonna have twenty wide receivers in the top 80 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: three rounds? Like there's a lot of separation on the 81 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: draft board. I'm gonna have to figure out because I've 82 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: as I continue to work through the wide receivers, I'm going, okay, well, 83 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: there's enough about him that I like that I would 84 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: consider him a top one hundred pick. And I end 85 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: up going, oh my god. And then meanwhile I can wait, 86 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: going okay, well, what cornerbacks really impressed me? Keith Taylor 87 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: was great in the game on Saturday. Keith Taylor, the 88 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: cornerback from Washington. I'm not sure I loved his tape. 89 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: In fact, I can tell you that I didn't really 90 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: like his tape. But he was moving a little better 91 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, and you're asking yourself, Okay, how 92 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: do you balance that out? Did he just improve? Like 93 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: what happened? So I'm more confused at quarterback maybe than 94 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: ever based on the guys who were at the Senior Bowl. 95 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: But man, that wide receiver position, I'm in love. I 96 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: would never sign a wide receiver again. I think I'll 97 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: just continue to draft him. They're incredible. That's a good 98 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: point point because I thought throughout the week it was 99 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: impressive for some of those corners that ended up playing 100 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: decently well. I mean, you mentioned Keith Taylor. I thought 101 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: he had a poor week to practice, and I'm right 102 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: there with you, Katsie. I don't like his tape that much. 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 1: I mean I had like a late third round grade 104 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: on him in terms of his tape. But he played 105 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: really well in the Senior Bowl. I mean there were 106 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: guys like, oh man, I'm blanking on their names. Oh, 107 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: Trey Norwood and Trey Brown, both out of Oklahoma. I 108 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: thought they had decent weeks of practice, and then I 109 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: don't think they played very well. So overall, I think 110 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: you're looking at the cornerback position as something that is 111 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: kind of wishy. Watch you when you go up against 112 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: those receivers that are as talented as the wide receiver 113 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: group was down in Mobile. Now, Jeff, what were your 114 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: kind of thoughts on the week. Did you agree in 115 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: the fact that some of these corners just didn't show 116 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: out the way that you thought they would well. I 117 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: think I would think that NFL teams no going into 118 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: this that it's really hard because in the real world, 119 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: it's not all that often that you're legitimately going to 120 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: be you guy all by yourself, and he can run 121 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: a drag all the way across the field five yards 122 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, good luck. So I think NFL 123 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: teams know that it's advantage wide receiver in the one 124 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: on one drills. But I think guys like um melifon 125 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: Wu from Syracuse, Aaron Robinson, Central Florida, I think there 126 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: were dbs that that helped themselves throughout the Senior Bowl practices. 127 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't I wouldn't be terrified to go there 128 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: if I was a dB, I would just know that 129 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna go there and it's gonna be what you're 130 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: used to in practice settings. One on one is hard 131 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: and you gotta you gotta really believe in yourself and 132 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: go ball out. But there's there's there's opportunities to make plays. 133 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: And I thought some of those guys, did Dan, do 134 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: you agree? Yeah? I thought Trey Brown was one of 135 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: those guys who he's five ft ten on a good day, 136 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: but his competitiveness that he played with was awesome to 137 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: watch during practice. Really impressed with what he did. Yeah, 138 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with Jeff, and it's I think 139 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: that it's you're as a corner, You're expected that you're 140 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: probably gonna have a tough time, You're gonna get beat. 141 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: So if you do make a play, teams, you're gonna 142 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: remember that. And so I think you take your chances 143 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: and you go there and compete. And you know, we 144 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: saw it, you know this year where the guy like 145 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: like like I said, with Trey Brown, I thought helped 146 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 1: himself as a he projects probably as more of a nickel, 147 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: but a guy that coming out of Senior Bowl week, 148 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: teams maybe have a little bit better opinion of what 149 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: did you think of MVP or offensive MVP of the 150 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl Kellen Mond. And I know a lot of 151 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: fans around here want to hear about Kellen Mond because 152 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: they just grew up Aggie fans. I mean there's a 153 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: lot of Texas and Maggie's around this state. And I 154 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: know with Kellen Mond, there's been kind of wishy washy 155 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: whenever it comes to his thought process, the whenever it 156 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: comes to his draft rating. I mean, the inconsistency is 157 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: on the field and off the field with him in 158 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: terms of the grading of him and the scouting of him. Dan, 159 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: what did you think about him throughout the week? And 160 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: ultimately Coleman in that MVP outing during the game. But 161 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: I kind of want to just hear about what he 162 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: did at the Senior Bowl. I think it mirrored what 163 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: we saw on tape for his career at A and M. 164 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: And the thing that just bothers me the most with 165 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: hitting with Mind is I could show you a clip 166 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: from or a game from his sophomore year and then 167 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: show you a game from a senior year and it 168 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: looks like it was, you know, the same same guy. Yeah, 169 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: I just I think the same level of inconsistency. He's 170 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: clearly talented. Clearly he's got, you know, a good arm, 171 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: he can move around a little bit, He'll make some 172 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: really impressive throws. His highlights are as impressive as anybody's. 173 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: But when you talk about the full scope, the body 174 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: of work, I just see the same player that we 175 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: saw as a sophomore that we're seeing as a senior. 176 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: And we saw during practice up and down with his 177 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: decision making, up and down with his placement down the field. 178 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: So it's easy to look at his highlight tape and say, Okay, yeah, 179 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: this guy can play. But when you look at the 180 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: full body of work, it's just it's just a back 181 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: and so I find it really hard to get excited 182 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: about any of these senior quarterbacks. Uh, there's not a 183 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: there's not a single senior quarterback that I'm really overly 184 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: excited about. And you know, Man's kind of in that 185 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: mix with with Jamie Newman and you know the rest 186 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: of that group that probably gonna go somewhere on day three. 187 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: It's just, uh, you know, hard to guess exactly where. 188 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: It's just gonna come down to teams and their preference 189 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: and exactly what they're looking for. You're still not very 190 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: excited about mac Jones either. Well, I don't consider he's 191 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: not a senior, so you know, he's all the underclassmen 192 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: I can I can get there, even Davis mills from Stanford. 193 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: I there's something there. And I you know, I think 194 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: that there's a little bit of optimism for a Davis 195 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: mills Um. You know, I think he's got a good 196 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: chance to be drafted ahead of Kyle trask Um and 197 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: because he's got starter potential. So and mac Jones, he 198 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: I thought he helped himself by being there. I think 199 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: the obvious connection now is going to be with the Panthers. 200 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: Matt Rule couldn't help but rave about mac Jones, the 201 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: way he handled himself during practice behind the scenes, his leadership, 202 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: the way guys follow him. It's going to be interesting 203 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: to see how that might play out on draft day 204 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: with the Panthers having a lot more intimate knowledge of 205 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: mac Jones and how he's wired compared to some of 206 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: these other teams that are looking at quarterbacks in the draft. 207 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: So's it's a really interesting group of quarterbacks this year 208 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: where the first six drafted might all be underclassmen than 209 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: the other you know, three or four drafted could be seniors, Jeff, 210 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: whenever it comes to the quarterback position, I mean, we're 211 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: talking about these senior quarterbacks, but I mean it's a 212 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: it's a very heavy field. Whenever you look at Trevor Lawrence, Justine, 213 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, all of which that will probably 214 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: go inside the top ten. And now there's been rumblings 215 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: around Dak Prescott and of course we're coming down to 216 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: the wire. I mean, the transition tag period starts in 217 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: nineteen days and it ends a couple weeks after that 218 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: or three weeks after that, So ultimately your clock is 219 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: running out on Dak Prescott if you're the Cowboys right now. 220 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: And Brian broad Us has said this previously on the 221 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: Tuesday show that once that time starts clicking and it 222 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: starts taking a little bit further down, and you have 223 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: to franchise Dak Prescott, you're gonna have to start talking 224 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: about one of these quarterbacks. But which quarterback would you 225 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: want to talk about? If you were the Dallas Cowboys. Oh, 226 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: I would like to quote the great Kevin Turner if 227 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: I could, let you know. He's pretty good at this stuff. 228 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: I hate, I hate quarterbacks. So if you are the Cowboys, 229 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: what you should do is sign your top eight quarterback 230 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You should have done that two years ago, 231 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: one year ago, and then you should do it again. Now. 232 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: Now if because you are the Cowboys front office, you've 233 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: screwed this up so royally that now it's gonna be really, 234 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: really hard because Dak's like, well, I'm on the doorstep 235 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: to free agency, so you're gonna have to blow me away. 236 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: And Jerry's still like, hey, you signed what we offer 237 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: you and that's it. And yeah, you may have to 238 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: look at a guy because you have a top ten pick. 239 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: And I think realistically you're gonna be talking about either 240 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: Justin Fields, Trey Lance, or Mac Jones because just going 241 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: off of what we hear and what we're seeing. I 242 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: would imagine that Zach Wilson and Trevor Lawrence are gone, 243 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: and then it's kind of the wild card what is 244 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: the order and how quickly do they all go? Because 245 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: I could totally see a scenario where five quarterbacks are 246 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: gone when the Cowboys pick. I could see that, yeah, 247 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: But I think we also have to acknowledge it's possible 248 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: that two quarterbacks are gone when the Cowboys pick. It's 249 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: the weirdest top of a draft that I've seen in 250 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: the seven years that I've been doing this, because I 251 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: don't know if you're like, if you're not sold, there's 252 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: teams in the top five or in the top eight 253 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: that there's at least four or five of them that 254 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: I think should take quarterbacks. But if you don't believe 255 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: in the guys that are available this year, then you're 256 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: not going to because all of these teams have other 257 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: options they could roll with. So if you're the Cowboys 258 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: and it's Hey, which guy are you keeping an eye on? 259 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: I guess the most likely answer would probably be Trey 260 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: Lance North Dakota State, And that would be wild to me. 261 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: If the Cowboys were like, Hey, we're gonna move on 262 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: from a top eight quarterback in the league because this 263 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: guy's got a big harmonies athletic and maybe you could 264 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: be good one day. So Cowboys, sign your quarterback. Come 265 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: on the magical mystery ride with me real quick. I'm 266 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: coming to you now as half myself, Kevin Turner and 267 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: half the Dallas Cowboys. And the fact that we're even 268 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: talking about this already tells you that the Cowboys are 269 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: pretty comfortable being lucy goosey at the quarterback position, because 270 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: otherwise the deal would have already been done, like it 271 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: just would have been done. And I don't want to 272 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: hear the stuff about Dak's side and what they're demanding. 273 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: There's a market value. The deal could have been done 274 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: and should have been done, all right, And that's the 275 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: end of that. That being said, after taking a full dive, 276 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: I carved out some special time to really go through 277 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: all few of the games that we have of North 278 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: Dakotas day. My quarterback too this year is Trey Lance, 279 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: and I am so comfortable with that. I'm kind of 280 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm kind of in love with the guy again. I'm 281 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: willing to be loosey goosey at the quarterback position, I 282 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: guess right, because I mean, I think Dak should be 283 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: your quarterback. But if we're gonna get to this point, 284 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: this hypothetical area that we're talking about, which would even 285 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: have us talking about a quarterback, that I'm doing whatever 286 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: it takes to get Trey Lance on my team. If 287 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm the Dallas Cowboys, he would have an ideal one 288 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: year to sit while Dak is on the tag and 289 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: then we are ready to go. I think his ball 290 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: placement and armed talent is just as good as as 291 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's better than Zach Wilson personally. I think the 292 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: way that he has he feels pressure in the pocket, 293 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: like anyone can play when the pocket's clean, right, but 294 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: when he can fill it in the pocket, And that's 295 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: something that I didn't always see with Justin Fields. A 296 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: little escapability. Yeah, I can kind of kind of move around. 297 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: I didn't always feel it. Trey Lance feels it. And 298 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: for a nineteen year old to have that season he had, 299 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: he looked pretty advanced. He didn't look like a nineteen 300 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: year old. And I understand Division two, I get all 301 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: that stuff, But if we're if we're rolling dice anyway 302 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: at the position. That's my guy, because there's a whole 303 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: other dynamic. He adds. Watch the James Madison game from 304 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, which he only throws the ball like fifteen 305 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: times that game. He runs the ball thirty times in 306 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: that game. Is the new GM that game an entire 307 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: other to the game? Yeah, twenty nineteen, he would be 308 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: in that game, right, Trey versus the news, that's that's 309 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: that's fascinating. Uh, is your guy? No, it's very boord. 310 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about a guy, and I like 311 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, but I mean we have to recognize just 312 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: how unprecedented of an evaluation this is. The guy has 313 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: seventeen career starts, all versus FCS competition. Uh. You look 314 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: at his college resume and the stats just on paper 315 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: look great eight but you know many times he trailed 316 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: in the second half of a game in his career once. Like, 317 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: there's so much about him we don't know. There are 318 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: so many one read and then run type of plays 319 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: on his film where he's not making full read or 320 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: full field reads. He's not going through progressions things like that. 321 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: You know last year, this this great season that he 322 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: had which was statistically great sixteen to those season national 323 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: title fcs. He averaged in his career eighteen point six 324 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: pass attempts per game. Meanwhile the running game, they averaged 325 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: forty five rush attempts per game. At the North Dakota State, 326 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: they leaned on that rush, that run game. That's that's 327 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: what their offense is based off of, and then they would, 328 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, uh, pass off of that. So I love 329 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: the traits. I think that the poise that he shows 330 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: is really impressive. You know, the competitive nature that he has. 331 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: I like, but there's just there's so much about him 332 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: as a quarterback that we don't know. And maybe he'll 333 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: get there, but I mean we have to recognize just 334 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: how big of a risk that it is, not not 335 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: just you know, moving on from dak and going to 336 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: a new quarterback, but moving on to a new quarterback 337 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: that is so we just there's so many unknown variables 338 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, for me, I'm a Zach Wilson guy. 339 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: I wrote about it back in October. I took a 340 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: lot of heat when I said he's, you know, right 341 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: there in the mix to be quarterback too, behind Trevor 342 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: Lawrence UM. But I think more people are catching on 343 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: that Zach Wilson is he's legit and I think, you know, 344 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: when I quarterback, it's such a hard position to evaluate, 345 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: and you know, I've had plenty of misses doing this, 346 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: so you know, don't. I am not like the final 347 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: voice on on these quarterback prospects. But something that I 348 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: really look for is the ability to make the great 349 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: spontaneous decision. That's a that's an old Bill Walsh thing. 350 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: You want guys that can make that spontaneous decision and 351 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: create and to me, that's Zach Wilson. His ability, his 352 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: feel for throwing off platform, his field, for ball placement 353 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: down the field, He's naturally accurate. He's got a whip 354 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: of an arm. I wish you were a little bit bigger. 355 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: There's some durability concerns there, uh, you know, just that narrow, 356 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: narrow frame. But you know, and sometimes he'll play an overdrive, 357 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: he'll you know, bail the pocket before he needs to. 358 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: Mechanics get a little wild that that that's part of 359 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: his game. But he has a natural ball placement to 360 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: him down the field. I think there's a lot you 361 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: can do with Zach Wilson. I think he's the clear 362 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: number two quarterback in this draft, but it's it's just 363 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: a really intriguing group of pastors because they're all really 364 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: really talented, and you know, they could all end up 365 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: being starters in this league. Just to play Devil's advocate here, Dane, 366 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: and you were talking about with Trey Lance and his 367 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: competition and the unknowns, and there certainly are a ton 368 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: of unknowns coming from an FCS level regardless. But with 369 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, are there not still a ton of unknowns? 370 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: Because he had one good season? I mean, yeah, yeah, 371 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: the decent year twenty nineteen, but I mean his completion 372 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: percentage went from sixty two to seventy three in one 373 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: year and then all of a sudden, he's a top 374 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: two quarterback in this draft, behind Trevor Lawrence. But he 375 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: also played kind of lesser competition than the guys like 376 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: a Justin Fields and a Trevor Lawrence and a Kyle 377 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: Trask and a Mac Jones. Because you look at by 378 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: US competition, Troy Navy Louisiana Attack UTSA, Texas State, North 379 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: Alabama Coastal Carolina was their toughest game. I think overall, 380 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: there's still a lot of question marks around Zach Wilson. 381 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: White is Zach Wilson more of a lock than a 382 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: maybe a Trey Lance. Well, I just think we know 383 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: more about Wilson, and I mean, you're absolutely right in 384 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: terms of the level of competition, But I also think 385 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: there's a pretty big gap from you know, talking about 386 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: Troy compared to the Missouri Valley Conference. Yes, yes, level, 387 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: And you know that's just the facts. Nothing against that 388 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: level of camp. It's just there's there's a different competition 389 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: level in terms of talent. So, you know, Zach Wilson 390 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, he also benefited from a 391 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: strong run game. A strong run game, reliable targets to 392 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: throw to a good offensive line. So yeah, absolutely, I don't. 393 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: I don't think Zach Wilson's a sure thing by any means. 394 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: I just I'm a more believer, more of a believer 395 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: in his talent um. I think we've seen more, we 396 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: know more about him compared to uh, Trey Lance. And 397 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: then you know, let's just throw Justin Fields into the mix, 398 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, so we can you know, talk about him 399 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: as well. I think that there's a lot to like 400 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: about him from a physical perspective. Uh, you know, he's 401 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: I think he's a naturally accurate guy. We saw that 402 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: in the Clemson game. When when he's in rhythm and 403 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: everything is going right, the play design is where it 404 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: needs to be. He looks outstanding. But when that first 405 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: read's taken away, or you know, the defense does something 406 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 1: with their coverages or their blitz that he hasn't accounted for, 407 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 1: that's where the play breaks down. And that's where he 408 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: needs to have a better plan B, C, and D 409 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: and play with more urgency if he's going to make 410 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: it at the next level. But I think the intangibles, 411 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: the athleticism, the accuracy, it's all there for fields to 412 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: make it. It's just he needs to get over that 413 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: hump when it comes down to making that spontaneous decision. 414 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, was Zach Wilson. Hey, hey, Jeff, can 415 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: I run something by you real quick? Because another thing 416 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: I want to throw in about really just the position 417 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: in general. And I do think the Cowboys will get 418 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: a deal done with Chach. I think they will do 419 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: it reluctantly. But if they don't, that tells you that 420 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: they didn't value their investment. Okay, since I can do 421 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: let a top eight quarterback in the league walk, well, 422 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: then I've got no problem. Let my quarterback run twenty 423 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: times a game if he needs to. And Trey Lance 424 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: is a guy who I think could probably do that 425 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: for you. I guess I'm done looking for the perfect passer. Now, 426 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm done looking for all that. If my team right 427 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: here is not going to go ahead and go full 428 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: forward the investment because they want to sign the running 429 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: back in the linebacker like that, that's kind of where 430 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: I kind of go. Well, apparently I don't need to 431 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: worry about developing this guy into some you know, long 432 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: term thing, and I don't need this guy to be 433 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: a fifteen year quarterback for me, which is ideal. Ideally 434 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: you have that guy who's your quarterback for ten and 435 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: fifteen years and he becomes an excellent drop back passer 436 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: and all those things. Right, Well, if you're just not 437 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: gonna sign the guy because you don't believe it giving 438 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: him that much money, because you don't believe it giving 439 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: him market value, then screw it. Treat the quarterbacks like 440 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: the running backs, then Burnham, who cares? What do you 441 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: think about that, Jeff? I mean, I dig the idea 442 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: of unleashing the running quarterback. I think it's fun. I 443 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: love watching the Ravens play. I don't know how Amari 444 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: Cooper and Ceedee Lamb would feel about it, probably because 445 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, I also I also like to feel to 446 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: throw the ball. So you know, a quarterback who's gonna 447 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: run like what does Lamar do? Probably fifteen times a game, 448 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: give or take. I think it's fun for winning. I 449 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: think it's a good way to be consistently good. And 450 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: if you're never going to pay a quarterback, I don't 451 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: mind that approach. But I've got a team that's got 452 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: some really good receivers and a really good quarterback. So 453 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: but Kat, your love for Trey Lance makes me think 454 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm cool with him and we can we can rock 455 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: with him because I believe he can throw. H. We 456 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: don't have to risk our guy fifteen times a game, 457 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: do we. We don't have to to do that, Okay, yeah, 458 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: but I don't paint the picture that he's like Jet Yeah, 459 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: we could and could. I don't want to paint the 460 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: picture that he's like not a throwing quarterback or whatever. Like, uh, 461 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: and we all, I mean, I don't know. I don' 462 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: want to speak for everyone, um, but I think we 463 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: all kind of thought Lamar Jackson, we knew we had 464 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: work to do in the passing game, but I think 465 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: we all thought he might continue to take a step forward, 466 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: maybe not have that regression. You kind of go look 467 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: at their wide receivers and in Baltimore like no offense, 468 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: but like they brought in Dez Bryant, they were that desperate, like, yeah, 469 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: they need a little more a few more weapons out 470 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: there to kind of help him out a little bit. 471 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: But like, I don't like, I don't think those are 472 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: like I want to be careful when we talk about 473 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: other players like that we're not talking about a comparison. 474 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: A couple of things about Trey Lance that early jumped 475 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: out to me. And again, I'm talking about a nineteen 476 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: year old, and I'm talking about a guy who ideally 477 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: doesn't play again next year. Hopefully we get a preseason 478 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: game and maybe he can play then, but I hopefully 479 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: he gets time to sit behind someone for one year 480 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: at least. And one thing that I think about with 481 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, some little things just like playing off of 482 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: play action because they did run a lot that was 483 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: very helpful for him, are throwing on the run and 484 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: things like that. You can see that and see those 485 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: skills and then along with when you have you know, 486 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: blitz is coming from the blind side, just when you're 487 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: when you can't see it, to fill it and know 488 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: it and step up out of it. Just looks very 489 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: comfortable doing that. And those are the types of things 490 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: that I really love. When the guy's keeping his eyes downfield, 491 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: when he's in the pocket and moving around, and I 492 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: understand some of the things that Dame was talking about. 493 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: You know, we're we got to make sure this guy 494 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: can throw with the right amount of anticipation and things 495 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: like that. How accurate is he on the five yard drag? 496 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: You know, all day long, you didn't see a ton 497 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: of that, and a lot of his throws are throwing 498 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: it down the field quite a bit. You know, you 499 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: want to see a little more accuracy and a little 500 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: more consistency, and quite frankly, more tape. In general, you 501 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: want to see more tape. But I am I'm pretty 502 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: smitten with my guy, Trey Lance right now, and I 503 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: think based on what I've heard, and I don't know 504 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: the guy, so if I could text you, I would, 505 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: But I think you've got a guy who's got a 506 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: pretty good football IQ and things like that. Who who's 507 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: going to be uh, you know, I don't want to 508 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 1: be Jen Jason Garrett here, but you know, kind of right, 509 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: kind of guy type type of thing. You hear those things, 510 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: so I think that's good. But we heard those things 511 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz too, So yeah, it's the same program. 512 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: Last think I'll say about this, last think I'll say 513 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: about these quarterbacks is that I think this year, more 514 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: than more than ever, with these this group of quarterbacks, 515 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: it's going to come down to the interviews, you know, 516 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: when just to figure out where are they in their 517 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: mental development? How much do they know, how much do 518 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: they not know? How much are they able to learn? 519 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: How those interviews go are going to be just paramount 520 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: when they throw out the tape on and they say, okay, 521 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: well what are you looking at here down in distance? 522 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: What's the coverages? You know? Are you setting the protections? 523 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Okay, this read's taken away? What 524 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: is your what is your outlet? What do you what's 525 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: your thought process? Right now? Just going through all of 526 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: these positive and negative plays and to get a better 527 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: feel for where they are mentally, that more than that's 528 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: that's the key every year that we're not really we 529 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 1: don't have access to that information, and it's you know, 530 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: it's a big missing piece of the evaluation process for 531 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: those of us on the outside when evaluating quarterbacks, but 532 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: more so than ever because college offenses are getting easier 533 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: and easier to operate, and so I think for a 534 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: lot of these quarterbacks they're less prepared for the NFL 535 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: where and so for these the interview process, it's going 536 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: to be important for them to really understand the questions 537 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: that are going to be asked and to be ready 538 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: for Yeah, and it's going to be virtual this year 539 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: because of everything that's gone on with COVID nineteen. So 540 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: add an extra wrench into it is how how these 541 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: virtual interviews are going to go. They did a lot 542 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: of that last year as well because there were no 543 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: thirty days. It's because there was no Dallas Day. But 544 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be much of the same this year. So 545 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: hopefully the Cowboys in really everybody around the league able 546 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: to evaluate the right way. And just one thing added 547 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: on onto what Katie and Jeff we're talking about before. 548 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: We had to break here really quickly, but the fact 549 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: that you have Kellvin Moore as your offensive coordinator, Katie, 550 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: makes me think that your theory of running the football 551 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: with your quarterback may be debunked just a hair because 552 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: he doesn't like running the football a whole lot. You 553 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: can kind of see that as a former quarterback himself. 554 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: They like to throw the football, and so I think 555 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: Trey Lanz can certainly do that. But you're not gonna 556 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: run a thirty times a day. So I guess Jeff, 557 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: you can. You can rest easy at night thinking that 558 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: Trey Lance wouldn't run at thirty times in a game 559 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: every single time, but one of the quarterback. Yeah, I agree. 560 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: Let's let's sign Dak and not have to worry about that. 561 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: I agree. Let's go to break. When we come back 562 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: here on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, we're 563 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: gonna talk about a little bit of Twitter on the twenty. 564 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: We've got some great questions coming in from you guys 565 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: on Twitter when we return right after this. 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On the twenty on the Twitter, Chris 610 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: Beam in the back punching the buttons and doing a 611 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: fantastic job as always. Okay, we're gonna start things off 612 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: with John Marshall on Twitter. He says, I want the 613 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: team to fix the defensive tackle position. I want to 614 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: also add to that, John, So do we all? We 615 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: all want that to happen, he says, And Dan Quinn's defense. 616 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: Is Tristan Hill and Evil Gallimore more suited to a 617 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: three tech or more of a pin trading one technique? 618 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: And what are the top defensive tackles on the board? 619 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: Who can feel each of those roles? Jeff Cavana will 620 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: start with you. Oh, I think, to me, both Tristan 621 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: Hill and Neville Gallimore are guys that are your rotational 622 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: three techniques that you're gonna line up over the guard. 623 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: I don't think either one of them is a guy 624 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: that you necessarily want having to battle double teams because 625 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't think either one of them is going to 626 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: handle it very well. So to me, I think in 627 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: this draft, if you're looking for a defensive tackle, I'm 628 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 1: looking for the big boys, and it's a really interesting group. 629 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: Because I will agree with Dane that I think to me, 630 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: Christian Barmore is the best defensive tackle prospect because I 631 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: think Alabama, because I think he offers both where I 632 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: think he is powerful enough to play the run and 633 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: battle and hold his ground, but he also offers some 634 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: upside as a pass rusher. And then I do like 635 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: Marvin Wilson despite the not good tape of twenty twenty, 636 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: I still think even down his twenty twenty tape, the 637 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: Florida State defensive tackle, former five star recruit, there's just 638 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: something about when I see guys that have violent hands 639 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: that are hard for guys to sort of maintain blocks on. 640 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: I like that in a player. And then in twenty nineteen, 641 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: when you just watch him when he hits people, it 642 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: looks like it hurts a lot, and I like that 643 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: in my defensive tackles. So Christian Barmore, Marvin Wilson, and 644 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: then I would throw in NC States. Let's tell me 645 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: to say his first name, Alam McNeil. You know, he's 646 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: a guy that I think when you watch him play 647 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: nose tackle, knows how to extend on guys, knows how 648 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: to get rid of blockers, has a nice first step. 649 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: So I think he's one of those guys that is 650 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: a one technique but also has a little bit of 651 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: quickness that you want in a three technique. So I 652 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: think that would be a really good fit for this team. 653 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: So those the first three names that jump to mind 654 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: for me. I want to throw another name out there, 655 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: and I'm not reaching for this guy, but if you're 656 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: telling me we get to round four, maybe he's still there. 657 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: I would take a shot at three hundred and forty 658 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: five pound Tyler Shelvin from LSU. Didn't love his tape, 659 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: don't think he's got great get off. I said his way, 660 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty five pounds. He's gonna eat space, 661 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna take on double teams. He has a run player. 662 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: He's not gonna add anything as a pass rusher. But 663 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: if we get the feeling that Dan Quinn wants that 664 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: bigger defensive tackle on the inside, I think Tyler Shelvin's 665 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: a name I've kind of written down as kind of 666 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: a guy who I think had a little hot, a 667 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: little more upside, a little more ceiling, and maybe didn't 668 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: show out as much as people might have wanted at LSU, 669 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: and he did opt out, you know, twenty twenty. But 670 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: I think that's a guy. If I'm in round four 671 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,239 Speaker 1: and he sides out of the top one hundred, that's 672 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: a guy I'm taking a look at because I do 673 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: see some untapped potential there. Yeah, those are good names. 674 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean the two that came to mind, where McNeil 675 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: and Shelvin. I think both probably are gonna go in 676 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: the third round. Maybe I don't. We'll want to see 677 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: if they wait maybe a little bit longer. An interesting 678 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: play or Bobby Brown from A and m Um, Yeah, 679 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: he's he flashes, but he's inconsistent. Um. You know, I 680 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: think he could play some of that one because he 681 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: does have some power to him, and you know, I 682 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: think that he has yet to play his best football. 683 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: He's he's still young. He hasn't turned twenty one until 684 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: I think August, so um, you know, Bobby Brown is 685 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: one of those intriguing upside guys in a class that 686 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: is just a not good nose tackle group. And he 687 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: played his high school ball right down the street from 688 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium, from Lamar High School in Arlington, 689 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: so hey, He's he's known the area. He's been around here, 690 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: and they've had a lot of good defensive line talent 691 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: coming out of Arlington. Kind of keeping with this though, Dane, 692 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: I've got kind of a two part question for you here, 693 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: and this is from Connor Livesey are a good friend 694 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: on Twitter who's been trying to ask a question for 695 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: like four weeks and I keep missing his question somehouse 696 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: whenever the show comes up. So I'll get to this, 697 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: and I know I'm the worst. What area of McNeil's 698 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 1: game do you guys have questions about? And why isn't 699 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: he defensive tackle? Number one? That's the first part of 700 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: the question, Dan. The second one is he wants a 701 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: scouting report on Syracuse defensive tackle McKinley Williams and why 702 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: was his Clemson tape the best defensive line tape of 703 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:23,479 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Well with McNeil, Uh, you know, I think 704 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: there's there's plenty to like about him. Uh, you know, 705 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: he played. He reminds me a lot of or you 706 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: didn't get. He gave me flashbacks of watching Javon Hargrave 707 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: as a prospect. He's he's heavy handed, He's got that 708 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: body type that you want to thick thighs, that thick 709 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: torso that bubble that you're looking for in those tackle 710 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: bottom exactly. Uh. And he plays close to the ground, 711 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: so he's got some flexibility to him. Uh. He eats 712 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: up blockers, he wins gaps. Uh, he can reset the 713 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage with his power. He just I don't 714 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: I didn't see a very rangey player. Um. And I 715 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: thought he was part of a pretty heavy rotation that 716 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: really allowed him to stay fresh. Something to consider as well. 717 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: But you know, he's he's an easy player to like. Um, 718 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's going to It's tough with 719 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: defensive tackles because you have to really understand what's their 720 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: impact potential, you know, especially if they're not It's one thing. 721 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: If they're a pass rusher, then it's a little easier 722 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: to project their impact potential. If they're not a pass rusher, 723 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: then that's where it gets a little bit tougher too, 724 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: to truly understand what's their value in the draft. You know, 725 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: is are they a third round pick, fourth rup you know? 726 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: And I think McNeil falls in that category where I 727 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: don't know how much he gives you as a pass rusher, 728 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: and so what is that exact value? And so that's 729 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: why I think he's I think he's a day two player, 730 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: but even that maybe more of a third than a two. 731 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: It just you know it's gonna come down to preference, 732 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: and we have the factor in two. This is a 733 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: week nose tackle group, So a guy like McNeil could 734 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: get pushed up the board for a team that you 735 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: know is looking for that guy if you're picking it 736 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: to say the Cowboys, for example, If you're picking mid 737 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: second round and you know you are looking at nose 738 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: tackle and you don't feel great about the guys that 739 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: are going to be their third fourth round, you might 740 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: feel pressured to maybe pull the trigger a little bit earlier. 741 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: And not just the Cowboys, but several teams there are 742 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: in the market for a one technique or you know, 743 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: a player that can play over the center. So it's 744 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: a it's a really interesting dynamic with these nose tackles. 745 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: What about McKinley Williams. Have to handle McKinley Williams. Oh, 746 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: yes from Syracuse. Uh, I don't know. I need to 747 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: see more in him. Um, I don't think I have 748 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: a great feel for him yet and where he fits 749 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: in this class. But give me time on him. We'll 750 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: come back to Okay, that's fine. Yeah, I mean, it's 751 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: still what is it, February fourth at this point, So 752 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. Connor's just ahead of 753 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: all of us. That's the only issue. Um Now, I 754 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: don't think Connor's ahead of Dane. Oh no, he's not. 755 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: He's not ahead of Dane. Don't work. Anyone's ahead of 756 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: nobody's had a date. Even some of the gms in 757 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: the league or not ahead of Dane. Most of the 758 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: gems in the league or not ahead of Dane. Okay. 759 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: Kevin on Twitter asked this, and I'm gonna go straight 760 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: to Katie with this one, and he said some would disagree. 761 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: How did the Cowboys pass on Kyle Pitts if he's 762 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: there at ten? And what is your opinion on Tyson 763 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: Campbell with the second pick meaning forty fourth overall? I mean, 764 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: you pass on him if a cornerbacks on the board, 765 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: or you know, and if it's a player that you're 766 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 1: in love with is on the board, or if Trey 767 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: Lance is on the board because you've decided not to 768 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: sign back, that's how you pass on kW Pits. But 769 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: I mean, like I understand the kle Pits think. I 770 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: think you can get by tied in with another year 771 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: of Jarwin, another year of Dalton Shoult as your backup. 772 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: If they want to bring back the Bell Dozers tied 773 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: in three, I'm all about it. And that's how you 774 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: pass on kal Pits. I love Kyl Pits and other 775 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: than there's a good chance Cowpits is not there at ten. 776 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: But I just it's asset allocation and roster building is 777 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: more important than ever when you are paying your quarterback 778 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,959 Speaker 1: a lot, and the Cowboys are going to be paying 779 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: their quarterback a lot because they're going to either tack 780 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: him or sign him. And that's all important, and that's 781 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: what you should do. You should pay your quarterback. Tyson 782 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: Campbell is very interesting and it kind of leads to 783 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: something we're gonna talk about in the third segment about 784 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: a cornerback size. I'm a little higher on Eric Stokes 785 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: than Tyson Campbell, but Tyson Campbell's the better athlete. Tyson 786 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 1: Campbell is longer. I've got him at six two five. 787 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: The traits are all there, the length, the speed, you know, 788 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: those are the things that are all there. There are times, 789 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: and it's not always. There are times when it just 790 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: doesn't look natural playing the cornerback position. You go watch 791 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: Patrick certain play, it looks pretty natural. Even one of 792 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: the Eric Stokes take. To me, he looks pretty natural 793 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: on the other side. But you know, Tyson Campbell's gonna 794 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: get drafted higher than Eric Stokes because he's got better traits. 795 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: And it's all about traits. But I think he did 796 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: a good job, you know, carrying wide receivers across the field. 797 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: You could see that, and he could keep up with 798 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: them because he's got good recovery speed. If they do 799 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: get a step or two on him, I don't know, 800 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: you know, give it with this link. I want him 801 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: getting a more of a jam at the line of scrimmage. 802 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: You didn't always see that when he was up and 803 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: pressed technique. But to me, tons of ceiling. I got 804 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: a lot of ceiling with Trevon Diggs over there as well. 805 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: I like Tyson Campbell. I've got a second round grade 806 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: on him. But there are just some things that you 807 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: want to be you want to see shut up with him. 808 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: I think one thing with him too. When you watched 809 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: him this year offenses, we're not afraid to throw at 810 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: him because it's tough, because he has a lot of 811 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: the traits. But I mean when you when you are 812 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: drafting a corner in the first you know, fifty or 813 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: sixty pick. You want a guy that can get his 814 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: head turned and find the football, and he just didn't 815 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: do that consistently, and that really worries me. On Campbell, 816 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: so I agree with a lot of what you said. 817 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: Traits are easy to like, and I you know, the 818 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: length size. Uh, you know, he is a very smooth 819 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 1: athlete for a guy that big. But you know it's 820 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: the way offensive attacked him. Uh, really do make you worry. 821 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: Oh and one thing on McKinley Williams. The reason I 822 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: have not seen enough of him yet he's not in 823 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: his draft class. So I just want to put that 824 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: out there. Oh wow, well that makes a lot of sense. 825 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: Oh that's a See. Anytime Dane says give me time, 826 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: it means the dude's not not even in the draft 827 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: at all. Just to just to clarify, I'm falling back 828 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: to school, so it's gracious, real quick on Campbell, I'll 829 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: be quick here. I have him just on my board 830 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: right now. I have him as my eighth cornerback. So 831 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's probably second round, right, that's probably 832 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: that's probably the potential to get the top sixty picks. 833 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's tough when you compare him to 834 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, Eric Stokes and Mela fawn Woo and Aaron 835 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: Robinson Elijah Molden, Like, there's different types of corner. Now 836 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 1: you're cooking, Dane, I don't want to. I don't I 837 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 1: don't want to step on If we're gonna talk about 838 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: this in a little we are, but a lot of 839 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: different types of corners, So we'll save it for a 840 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 1: little bit later. Jeff, do you want me to save 841 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: it or do you wanna Do you want to go 842 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: to break real quick? I mean we could come right 843 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: back in here. Yeah, I mean it's just a carryover 844 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: of this topic. 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And Dane said, there's a lot of 888 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: different types of corners in this draft that could potentially 889 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: intrigue you. I mean, we talked about elijah'm Olden out 890 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: of Washington, Florida States, Asante Samuel Junior, then you've got 891 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 1: the top guys like a Patrick Jutan and a Caitla Farley. 892 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there are all these different types of corners. 893 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: But Jeff, whenever it comes to the Cowboys, why are 894 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: you so skeptical on the types that they're looking at? Well? Okay, 895 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: so this is my thing with how we do the 896 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: draft and how we do cornerback. I feel like everybody 897 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: is looking for guys that are six two and up, 898 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 1: and I'm just kind of going backwards and asking myself 899 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: and everybody else, why why are we pretending that everybody 900 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: that we're going to cover in the NFL is like 901 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: sixty three? When I get a bunch of dudes in 902 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: the NFL, and it's like, all right, congrats, you got 903 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: all your six two guys. Now, time to go win 904 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Here's Tyreek Hill, all right, Well, my 905 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: guys falling down every time tire Hill changes direction, and 906 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: all right, here's the super Bowl. Go cover Stefan Diggs. 907 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: All right, my six two guys falling down left and right. 908 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: I just I wonder why are we so into the 909 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: idea of the six two and the six three corner? 910 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: And maybe part of it is just that I'm finding 911 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: a bunch of corners in this class that I like 912 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: that are under six foot and I'm tired of them 913 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: being height shamed, you know, by the community. So my 914 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: guys who are five ten, five eleven, just like Jayre 915 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: Alexander maybe the best corner in the NFL. I don't 916 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: want to just immediately throw everybody who's five foot ten 917 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: into well, he's a nickel guy, because there's plenty of 918 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL that are five nine to five 919 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: eleven that are number ones that play outside that you're 920 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: going to have to cover. So just the idea that 921 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: in the draft world, I Am not going to be 922 00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: consistently looking for and rewarding guys for being tall, going 923 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: to find the best players, and I'm gonna have guys 924 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: like Asante Samuel and Elijah Molden and Robinson at UCF 925 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: and Shakur Brown at Michigan State ahead of Tyson Campbell 926 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: six two runs fast from Georgia because I care less 927 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: about your profile. And maybe this comes back to the 928 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: thing that Dane talks about where it's kind of like 929 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: the player versus the traits. You can keep your traits. 930 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: I want the players. So the five ten and the 931 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: five eleven guys that can cover really well, that are physical, 932 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: that can play a football, I'm gonna take them over 933 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: six foot two and four to three all day or day. 934 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: That's my corner thing. It's a question, it's a comment, 935 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: it's a commentary, it's speech, and uh and I'm done. Now, 936 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: have a great day. I'll see you guys next week. 937 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 1: I think you're I mean, you're right, Like that's how, 938 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: that's how it should be. The number one trait when 939 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: you're scouting the cornerback position should always be athleticism. To me, 940 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,240 Speaker 1: easy more so than size. And I would argue next 941 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 1: is your ability to the process. You know, you're mental processing. 942 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: So those are the top two traits that I know personally. 943 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: I look for athleticism and then mental processing. If you 944 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 1: have those two things, yeah, you can play for me 945 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: any day. I think when we talk about length with corners, 946 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: it's not too dissimilar when we talk about you know, 947 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 1: arm arm length for offensive tackles. You know, like I think, 948 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: just it helps if you're a little bit longer, if 949 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: you have thirty five inch arms compared to thirty two 950 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 1: inch arms, and as offensive tackle, those three inches can 951 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: sometimes make a big difference, and so helping that kind 952 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,479 Speaker 1: of you know, close the gap is something that teams 953 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: will look for. But if you're not if you can't 954 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: move as an offensive tackle, it's not going to matter much. 955 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with the corners. If you're 956 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: super long player, that's great, but if you're not a 957 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: good athlete, it's not going to matter much. So the 958 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 1: size is something that I think should be used to 959 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: help break tie. So if you think Tyson Campbell and 960 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: Elijah Molden are on the same level as a prospect, 961 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: then Tyson Campbell should get a little bit of a 962 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: bump because he has the size advantage. But if you 963 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: think that Elijah Bowl and just a flight out better player, 964 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: then I certainly understand that too. No, I think I've 965 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: been guilty of this before in the past, and you 966 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 1: always try to get better at this, right, we sometimes 967 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 1: take measurements and information that you would typically get at 968 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: pro days or a combine or whatever. We sometimes tend 969 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,280 Speaker 1: to take those measurements and we treat him like currency 970 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: almost And it really doesn't have to be that way. 971 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 1: You trust what your ic and things like that. But 972 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: just to play Devil's advocate to what Jeff said, because 973 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,919 Speaker 1: I agree with most, if not everything, But Jeff said 974 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: Tyree Hill in the Super Bowl, Well, what happens if 975 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 1: our Darius Washington from TCU is your free safety and 976 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 1: he's got to get over and get on top of 977 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,800 Speaker 1: Mike Evans the Super Bowl? You're gonna do? You wish it? 978 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: Your guy who's gonna do it, You're gonna I want 979 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: the guy who's gonna get there. If look if if 980 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,359 Speaker 1: your quarterback throws a perfect ball and does the math 981 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,959 Speaker 1: in his head for sixty yards downfield, when the free 982 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: safety gets there where the corner is and leaves it 983 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: outside and high on the sideline where my five eight 984 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: safety can't reach it, good on you try it again. 985 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: I'd much rather have a badass, instinctual athletic dude that 986 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: makes plays than a guy who's taller and faster. That's all. 987 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: That's all. And you didn't have to drag you didn't 988 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: have to drag my safety into it. That's something that 989 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: you chose to do, Katie. You chose violence on a 990 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: Thursday with me. You didn't have to bring him into this. 991 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 1: Nobody asked you to do that, or Darius Washington safety 992 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: number one all five eight of him. Let's go offside 993 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 1: rich Richie Grant safety number two. Like something else that's 994 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: throwing into this carversation with corners, because that cornerback might 995 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 1: be my favorite position to evaluate because it's so much fun. 996 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: It's it's it's like you're you're breaking down a dance. 997 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: You have to be so technically refined, but at the 998 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: same time, you have to be a top athlete. Um, 999 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, first and foremost, I think you need you 1000 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: need space athletes, guys that can hold their own in space. 1001 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: And then you have to judge. You know, there's just 1002 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: not a good athlete and a bad athlete. There are 1003 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 1: certain levels of athlete. You know, you have to you know, 1004 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: there's different types of speed. There's uh, you know, transition speed, 1005 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 1: there's drive speed, there's break on the ball speed, all 1006 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: these different levels, so, uh, you know, the it's just 1007 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 1: a really fascinating position to evaluate. And I think the 1008 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: better athlete, the more you can compromise on size, because 1009 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: ideally you don't want a five nine corner, but if 1010 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: he's a top athlete, then the more you can compromise 1011 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: on that. It's something that is a it's really a 1012 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 1: fascinating uh because it's it is arguably the toughest position 1013 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,720 Speaker 1: to play, just because you're left out on an island 1014 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,280 Speaker 1: again another top athlete and you don't know what's coming 1015 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: and you just have to stop them from making a play, 1016 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 1: and it's tough, but you know that's it makes it, 1017 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: I think, a fun position to evaluate. Well. And Jeff 1018 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: says something very interesting in our just really quickly here Kata, 1019 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 1: but kind of tying together what all three of you 1020 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: guys were just talking about. But that was specifically whenever 1021 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: it came to the size and the athleticism of these corners. 1022 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 1: Whenever you look at the division that the Cowboys are in, 1023 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,879 Speaker 1: who are they going up against in terms of wide 1024 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 1: receivers that are the better wide receivers. It's Terry McLaurin 1025 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: for Washington, It's Sterling Shepherd for New York, and I 1026 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 1: guess the Shan Jackson slash Jalen Rager for Philadelphia. I mean, 1027 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 1: those are the guys. They're slot receivers that are quick, 1028 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: that are not very tall, that are agile, and they're 1029 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 1: gonna come right over the middle of the field. So 1030 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't these smaller corners that have that athleticism that Dane's 1031 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: talking about that kind of allow you to take them 1032 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: earlier in the draft. Be higher value to the Cowboys, Jeff, 1033 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: because just based off of the competition they're going for, well, 1034 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: I think they should be a higher value by everybody 1035 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: because sure, like you know, Davante Adams isn't small and 1036 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 1: Mike Evans big and Alan Robinson's not small. But I 1037 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:18,240 Speaker 1: mean it's the NFL receivers look like us, it's different, 1038 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 1: not quite like us. They look like five nine, six 1039 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,800 Speaker 1: foot six one. This guy's five eleven. Oh, here's a 1040 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: six three guy. This guy's six foot, he's six one 1041 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 1: oh six four over there. It's it's all over the place. 1042 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 1: So I just I don't think you need to be 1043 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: like building your team with the idea that you gotta 1044 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,280 Speaker 1: have this this height in this length. Like if um, 1045 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't mean to pick on the guy, but if 1046 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: camp if Tyson Campbell, the six two guy at Georgia 1047 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: has a better career than Sante Samuel Junior, I'll eat 1048 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: the microphone. Like there's just there's a different level to 1049 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 1: how well you understand the game, how quickly you're processing information. Uh, 1050 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 1: just this the spatial awareness that comes with playing corner 1051 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: when you're playing zone. So like sure, you in theory 1052 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 1: might even and maybe even outruns him in the forty right, 1053 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: and so now you're bigger, longer, faster. But if we 1054 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 1: run twenty football plays and we see who creates the 1055 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 1: smaller window for the quarterback in various situations, it's gonna 1056 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 1: be a Sante Samuel Junior because he's better at it. Jeff, 1057 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm interested in you said, I think Tyson, Campbell and 1058 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 1: Stokes were at ten and eleven ranked corners. I'm interested 1059 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: who are your top ten corners that you've studied so far? 1060 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 1: It is Caleb Farley one, Patrick Surtan, JC Horne Asante, 1061 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 1: Samuel Asante, Samuel Junior four, Elijah Mulden five, Melafonwu six, 1062 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 1: Robinson seven at Central Florida, Brown at did him yesterday, 1063 00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 1: Brown at Michigan State eight and actually a grand Am 1064 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: junior at Oregon is not Senior Bow. Then Campbell and Stokes, 1065 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: and I don't know how I did it. I don't 1066 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: know I did it Senior Bowl. But I liked his 1067 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 1: I liked the tape that I've gotten too so far. 1068 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:16,439 Speaker 1: On Graham, I like it. No, I mean, the only 1069 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: one out of that that I don't really love is Graham. Um. 1070 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 1: But the rest I mean, I yeah, I have no 1071 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: really big disagreements there. I guess my only disagreement would 1072 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,839 Speaker 1: be I really like Greg Newsom from Northwestern. He would 1073 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 1: be I haven't seen him yet. It's cheating, So just 1074 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 1: call Campbell and Stokes eleven and twelve or whatever, move 1075 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: him down one because I'm assuming i'll like knew some 1076 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: vetter Edge Simpson gotcha. Yeah, No, it's and that's I mean, 1077 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,720 Speaker 1: all those guys that you mentioned are top one hundred 1078 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,919 Speaker 1: guys so or maybe top seventy five guys. So it's 1079 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 1: it's it's a really interesting group. Corners. Where are you on? 1080 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:51,399 Speaker 1: Dry and Kendrick Dane from Clemson he didn't come out, 1081 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah he went back Clemson. Oh break and Connor Man Yeah, Katie, 1082 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 1: I was really I wanted him. I wanted him to 1083 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: come out, but he ended up going back. I agreed 1084 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 1: he might have been the best athlete in the group 1085 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 1: among all these guys, just really really raw, and so 1086 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,879 Speaker 1: I think he made but maybe the better decision by 1087 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: going back. He has got a chance to be a 1088 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 1: really good corner if he figures things out, because he's 1089 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. When he showed up, he's still he's 1090 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: still figuring things out. Yeah, I think another year with 1091 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 1: at college levels him. Well, I have the same almost 1092 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 1: the same order, Aaron Robinson of Central Florida. I have 1093 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:36,840 Speaker 1: fourth so Farley certain Horne, Robinson, Samuel Stokes, Campbell Moulden, 1094 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: Melifon Wu Newsome. For me, I think that's ten I 1095 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 1: named up, and then I've kind of got on my 1096 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: day three radar um Tariq Castro Fields from Penn State. 1097 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 1: Although I need to check and see if he came 1098 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 1: out and he's going back. Okay, he's gone back. Kat 1099 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. I know if I tell you 1100 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 1: that that extra year of eligibile it messed everything up. 1101 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: It's tough. Yeah, a lot of people are a lot 1102 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: of kids are taking advantage of that. So thanks for 1103 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: tuning into the draft show with three experts and Katie, Hey, 1104 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: make sure that it's on tape. Let's market that Jeff's 1105 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna eat the microphone. Campel has a better career than Samuel. 1106 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: Can we just get that and keep it? Sure? Yeah, 1107 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep this microphone for that purpose. This one 1108 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: right here, that's gonna terrible meal and the like. There 1109 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 1: are some there are a couple of corners that we 1110 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 1: haven't talked about that are you know, pretty good, you know, 1111 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 1: Pulsing Adibo. We got to figure out what to do 1112 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: with him out of Stanford. Um. Yeah, Robert Rochelle from 1113 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: Central Arkansas is a small school guy, but a really 1114 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: good athlete who could go comp one hundred. UM. I 1115 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: really like what we saw from Benjamin Saint Jus from 1116 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 1: Minnesota at the Senior Bowl. Uh, you know Keith Taylor, 1117 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, somewhere in that mix. So it's a it's 1118 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: a really interesting group of corners that uh, you know, 1119 00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of split opinion when we 1120 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: talk about corners four through twelve in that range, and 1121 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like that throughout the course of the 1122 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: draft process. Also, Brian Mills out of North Carolina Central, 1123 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 1: I believe is that what his school is? Yeah, North 1124 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: Carolina Central. That just tells you how much I know 1125 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: about that school. But yeah, I thought he looked really 1126 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 1: nice at the Senior Bowl. I thought he had a 1127 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 1: good week of practice down in Mobile. So there's a 1128 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: lot of those corners that are gonna be kind of 1129 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 1: talked about all the way through the draft. I mean, 1130 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: of course, with the Cowboys needing help at corner, I 1131 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they doubled up at that position 1132 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: again for the second straight year. Last year it was 1133 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: Trayvon Daxon Reggie Robinson. One of them didn't catch the field. 1134 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: The other one has a ton of upside as a 1135 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 1: starter and maybe the number one corner on this ball 1136 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: club at the moment. But corner is definitely gonna have 1137 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 1: a microscope on it, and we'll continue to do that 1138 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 1: along the way here on the Draft Show. But that's 1139 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 1: gonna do it for us today, for Chris Beam and 1140 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 1: the back for Kevin kat Turner, Jeff Kavanaugh and Dame Brugler. 1141 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's We should have catched this group again 1142 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 1: Thursday next week ten am Central time, and then you 1143 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,920 Speaker 1: can also have the other group with Brian Brodess, Bucky 1144 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: Brooks and David Hellman at ten am Central Time on Tuesday. 1145 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 1: But until then, so long here on the Draft Show. 1146 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1147 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.