Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only
Speaker 1: wes hodko Wits. We're coming to you here from our
Speaker 1: studios at lambau Field and West. A little bit more
Speaker 1: coaching staff news to talk about here on the set today,
Speaker 1: and that is because the Packers and new head coach
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur make an official this week. Offensive coordinator for
Speaker 1: the nineteen Packers will be Nathaniel Hackett, most recently from
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Why don't you give us the brief
Speaker 1: rundown on Mr Hackett? Yeah? What's interesting, Mike, And you
Speaker 1: wrote this better than anybody our five things on the
Speaker 1: website right now in reducing the Packers fan base to
Speaker 1: their new offensive coordinator. It's interesting all these things work
Speaker 1: at times because Nathaniel Hackett, the son of Paul Hackett,
Speaker 1: a mentor from Mike McCarthy uh in another disciple that
Speaker 1: Bill Welsh uh coaching tree. Yeah, that West Coast office,
Speaker 1: the West Coast scheme that he did, and now he's
Speaker 1: here in Green Bay, thirty nine years young, same exact
Speaker 1: age as Matt Lafour at this point in time. Haven't
Speaker 1: had to get an official comment yet from Lafour as
Speaker 1: far as what his thinking was here with his first
Speaker 1: official outside higher but when you look at his resume
Speaker 1: where he's been, I think the exciting thing is is
Speaker 1: that he's accomplished some stuff with quarterbacks that aren't quite
Speaker 1: at the level of Aaron Rodgers. And seeing now with
Speaker 1: him getting a chance to work with someone like that
Speaker 1: so fresh ideas coming into this building and what that
Speaker 1: partnership is going to be like, I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be fun to watch. Yeah, it's interesting. You want to
Speaker 1: go down a rabbit hole, so to speak. You start
Speaker 1: looking at all these coaching connections and how small a
Speaker 1: world this can be. Paul Hackett at the University of
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh when Mike McCarthy really gets his first big break
Speaker 1: into coach back in the I believe it was nine
Speaker 1: the late nineteen eighties, Paul Hackett was the was the
Speaker 1: head coach at that time for pit and uh, now
Speaker 1: here we are basically twenty years later and Paul Hackett's
Speaker 1: son is the offensive coordinator for the head coach who's
Speaker 1: replacing Mike McCarthy Green Bay. So go figure it's one
Speaker 1: of those things, and they are all kinds of connections
Speaker 1: like that. That's why I set out an inbox. When
Speaker 1: someone asked about how many former head coaches kids, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: there's too many. It's a it's a it's a league,
Speaker 1: and it's a game where you're gonna see a lot
Speaker 1: of those bloodlines. Yeah, it's a it's a small world, certainly.
Speaker 1: But when you look at Nathaniel Hackett, what stands out
Speaker 1: the most is obviously his work with the Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 1: in sen Obviously, that is a team that made it
Speaker 1: all the way to the a f C Championship Game,
Speaker 1: and many would say if not for a somewhat inadvertent
Speaker 1: early whistle on a fumble play, they might have beaten
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots and gone to the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: last year. But with Blake Bortles and a rookie running
Speaker 1: back in Leonard four Nett in seventeen with Jacksonville, the
Speaker 1: Jaguars had one of the best offenses in the league.
Speaker 1: I believe it was fifth is at fifth in points
Speaker 1: in sixth in yards um, and the number one rushing
Speaker 1: offense in the league. They certainly leaned on their rookie
Speaker 1: running back in four net considerably There, things didn't go
Speaker 1: as well in the reports were a lot of regression
Speaker 1: from Blake Bortles. He wasn't living up to his standards. Obviously,
Speaker 1: injuries can affect anybody. Um, Nathaniel Hackett ends up getting
Speaker 1: relieved of his duties there in Jacksonville, But it sounds
Speaker 1: like Matt Lafleur is pretty excited to bring another I
Speaker 1: guess I would say fairly young, up and coming coach
Speaker 1: on board. Yeah, I think so. And in looking at
Speaker 1: where he's come from and in the road he's taken
Speaker 1: to get here, it's also interesting we're talking about how
Speaker 1: how small the coaching circles can be. Well, look at
Speaker 1: the fact that Nathaniel Hackett was the offensive coordinator for
Speaker 1: the Bills in two thousand thirteen. Who was the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator that year for Buffalo, Mike Pett. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: it just goes to show you that you know, these
Speaker 1: relationships that you build over the course of time and
Speaker 1: then getting those opportunities. The thing that I like though,
Speaker 1: looking at this scenario now, is you you see la
Speaker 1: Fleur coming from being the play caller uh in Tennessee
Speaker 1: hack and getting the chance to do those sort of
Speaker 1: things with the Jacksonville Jaguars, and obviously, as we both mentioned,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers wasn't the head coach or wasn't the you know,
Speaker 1: the quarterback for either of those teams. But what they
Speaker 1: did with the running game to set things up for
Speaker 1: their passing game. That's why the Jaguars, ultimately we're able
Speaker 1: to get as far as they did last year, was
Speaker 1: with Havin Leonard for net being able to develop that
Speaker 1: and playoff that. And then you look and see the
Speaker 1: success that the Titans had during down the stretch this season,
Speaker 1: it was Derrick Henry opening that door. So I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna be one of the big hallmarks of this duo,
Speaker 1: and and it's obviously gonna be a big point of
Speaker 1: emphasis for any head coach, any offensive coording to establish
Speaker 1: the run. But you have Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams
Speaker 1: and being able to get those guys going to make
Speaker 1: Aaron rodgers life easier. Mike, how many times have I said,
Speaker 1: over the last three years of doing this show, when
Speaker 1: you look back to Aaron Rodgers strongest seasons, he's always
Speaker 1: had a complimentary running game back or just somebody that
Speaker 1: can make impact plays out of the backfield. I think
Speaker 1: the Packers have that. It's gonna be up to Hacket
Speaker 1: in La Florida get the most out of that. I
Speaker 1: think that is the most interesting part of this as
Speaker 1: as we're going to see and obviously talk plenty about
Speaker 1: the evolution of this Packers offense and where it's going.
Speaker 1: When you look at what Hackett did with for Net
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, you look at what Matt Lafleur did with
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry in Tennessee. Packers have Aaron Jones, they have
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams. Maybe they'll add some others this this offseason
Speaker 1: to that depth chart at running back. We'll have to see.
Speaker 1: I I think that's a very interesting um part of
Speaker 1: this as as we follow it moving forward with regards
Speaker 1: to the running game. The other thing I'll say, and
Speaker 1: this is interesting because I saw the question in Insider inbox.
Speaker 1: I believe you were the one who answered it. On
Speaker 1: your day. There was a and who wrote in and said,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of Packers fans are are kind
Speaker 1: of on edge, a little bit disappointed or upset that
Speaker 1: you know, Matt Lafleur is coming from Tennessee with an
Speaker 1: offense that was ranked in the twenties and now Nathaniel
Speaker 1: Hackett's coming from the Jaguars after being relieved of his
Speaker 1: duties mid season in ten. But if you actually go
Speaker 1: back a year, Nathaniel Hackett with what he did in
Speaker 1: Jacksonville in seventeen, and then Matt Lafleur as Sean mcveigh's
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator with the Rams in seen if this were
Speaker 1: a year ago, these would have been two of the
Speaker 1: most talked about offensive candidates to UH to move up
Speaker 1: or to move on in their NFL careers. So this
Speaker 1: is what the Packers are banking on, essentially, that that
Speaker 1: both of these guys are um are going to be
Speaker 1: able to UH to continue what they had done in
Speaker 1: the past, and that the rankings and just the flat
Speaker 1: out numbers of teen obviously don't reflect the types of
Speaker 1: coaches that they are. Yeah, and I think it's important
Speaker 1: to remember too in this business, very rarely are you
Speaker 1: going to find a coach at any level that has escaped,
Speaker 1: you know, being fired. At some point in time. They're
Speaker 1: hired to get fired. I mean, that's the that's the
Speaker 1: old saying, right. Bill Belichick fell into that. Andy Reid
Speaker 1: experienced it with Philadelphia after he had built all that.
Speaker 1: Even I think the story always is of Sean Payton
Speaker 1: and where things were heading with the Giants when he
Speaker 1: got hired away. You know, whether or not he would
Speaker 1: have been there long term, that's just the way this
Speaker 1: game goes, and there's so much parody sometimes it's inescapable.
Speaker 1: So I think the important thing when you look specifically,
Speaker 1: not that la Fleur has bet well, he has been
Speaker 1: on that side, but if you go back to Washington
Speaker 1: but now with Hackett, is trusting yourself, trusting your principles,
Speaker 1: trusting your system, and being able to implement that in
Speaker 1: a new place. This is gonna be a really important offseason.
Speaker 1: And you know, in the next couple of weeks here
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur will be finalizing that coaching staff. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of back and forth conversations
Speaker 1: with Hackett, with Mike Petton whoever comes in as their
Speaker 1: special teams coordinator, to figure out what that was gonna
Speaker 1: look like. But once that staff is finalized, you and
Speaker 1: I have been around this long enough, Mike, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be spending two months developing that playbook. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: spending time getting those players, getting their preparation ready for
Speaker 1: when the players get back in the building on April one,
Speaker 1: because it is the Packers haven't experienced the off season
Speaker 1: like this in the new CBA environment of being able
Speaker 1: to you know, change up the head coaching, you know,
Speaker 1: stint and and look at a new program here in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. So I think for Nathaniel Hackett again, without
Speaker 1: having spoken to him at this point in time, you
Speaker 1: have to imagine he's energized by this idea of working
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers, challenging Aaron Rodgers and trying to get
Speaker 1: this Packers offense back on track. Yeah already, um quickly
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Speaker 1: said it, West. There's a lot of machinations here to
Speaker 1: figure out with regards to how this coaching staff is
Speaker 1: going to come together, but I think it's worth mentioning
Speaker 1: one assistant coach here in particular, who has left Green
Speaker 1: Bay after a very long and prosperous tenure. He has
Speaker 1: moved on to the Cleveland Browns. I'm talking about long
Speaker 1: time offensive line coach James Campon. And for those who
Speaker 1: don't know coach Campon's full story. First of all, as
Speaker 1: a player, he was a center for the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1: And if you look back in uh in when Brett
Speaker 1: Farve began his consecutive start streak, that NFL record that
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever be broken. Um, when he
Speaker 1: began that consecutive start streak at quarterback in Green Bay
Speaker 1: in his entner was James Campon. Um. Fast forward from
Speaker 1: there to two thousand and four, James Campon returns to
Speaker 1: Green Bay as an assistant coach on Mike Sherman's staff.
Speaker 1: He's with coach Sherman for the final two years of
Speaker 1: his tenure and then for the entirety of Mike McCarthy's tenure,
Speaker 1: um starting out as an assistant offensive line coach and
Speaker 1: then taking over as the offensive line coach in two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven when Joe Philbin was promoted to offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator and boy fifteen years as an assistant coach in
Speaker 1: one place. That doesn't happen very often in this league.
Speaker 1: And I can't say enough about what a great guy
Speaker 1: James Campon is, let alone a very very accomplished football coach.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because now with his new title with the
Speaker 1: you know, Cleveland Browns's associate head coach, offensive line coach,
Speaker 1: and you know, and there's so many different ways to
Speaker 1: rise up the ranks. You know, you look at what
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur has done, you know, being a quarterback driven
Speaker 1: type coach and and being able to go from one
Speaker 1: spot to another and kind of have that gradual incline.
Speaker 1: What's interesting about James Camping story is he basically became
Speaker 1: a high school coach once his playing career was done.
Speaker 1: He was settled out I believe it was in California,
Speaker 1: and then he got an opportunity to come to Green
Speaker 1: Bay and he started from the bottom to get where
Speaker 1: he's at today over the last fifteen years. The thing
Speaker 1: that was really special with him when you dealt with him,
Speaker 1: whether it was professionally personally, he always was that high
Speaker 1: school coach. If you could take out all the layers away,
Speaker 1: you know, take off the packers hat, just put on
Speaker 1: a regular starter jacket James Campon, you would have thought
Speaker 1: he was the Bayport high school football coach, just the
Speaker 1: way he carried himself, how personable he was. Even in
Speaker 1: the interactions with the media. You and I covered our
Speaker 1: share of high school football games, and in interactions with
Speaker 1: the media and interviews, it was he was still that
Speaker 1: high school football coach. When you'd ask him questions, the
Speaker 1: way he talked about his players, the way he would
Speaker 1: he would answer those questions and interact just um a
Speaker 1: tremendous guy on a personal level. I'm certainly going to
Speaker 1: miss him a lot. I know you will too, but
Speaker 1: certainly wish him the best and hope that he continues
Speaker 1: to find a lot of success in Cleveland. Yeah, two
Speaker 1: of my favorite stories about Campy. One goes back to
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, my first official year on the Beat.
Speaker 1: This is back when the Green Bay Packers, the way
Speaker 1: they handled assistant coaching availability, they would you'd sign up
Speaker 1: for specific coaches, you go interview him in the hallway
Speaker 1: outside the locker room. Offensive coaches on one day, defensive
Speaker 1: coaches on the other. So I'm going around with Rob Demowski,
Speaker 1: my former colleague who now works at ESPN dot com,
Speaker 1: and we basically I'm just making the rounds, introducing myself
Speaker 1: and I introduced myself to Campy and right away and
Speaker 1: he wasn't joking. He's like, oh, so is this is
Speaker 1: this your intern? He says, Rob, mind you. I was
Speaker 1: twenty four years old at the time. I still tend
Speaker 1: to be a younger looking fellow, especially on the days
Speaker 1: I decided to shave uh And so I go and
Speaker 1: we had a good laugh about it. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm actually the new guy that's coming in for Kareem Copeland.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the third beat writer here. And we
Speaker 1: had a good laugh about it. I put it out
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and I don't know how. I don't know
Speaker 1: if camp he had Twitter I don't know if somebody
Speaker 1: from the PR staff had learned it to him, but
Speaker 1: you know, next interactually had with him like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so you go and you know put that out there.
Speaker 1: And I looked like the dumb but you know, a
Speaker 1: coach that doesn't know that you're an intern or not.
Speaker 1: We had a good laugh about it. The second story
Speaker 1: I want to tell very quickly was after I came
Speaker 1: on board here in two thousand sixteen. Um James Camping
Speaker 1: was one of the guys that I, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of had bounced some stuff off of about all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and I was at a I wrote about this an
Speaker 1: insider ran box. I was at a local pizzeria that
Speaker 1: I don't think I could actually say the name because
Speaker 1: of sponsorship deals, but I can't be just happened to
Speaker 1: be up at the bar waiting for his pizza. I
Speaker 1: was waiting for mine. And this was probably, I want
Speaker 1: to say, a couple of months into the job. And
Speaker 1: and the thing about James camp and I'm sure you
Speaker 1: have experiences like this too. He had a way of
Speaker 1: listening to you, and I think his players experienced this too.
Speaker 1: It wasn't waiting for his turn to speak, It was
Speaker 1: really clearly listening to what you were feeling. And and
Speaker 1: I think he knew my reservations when I came over
Speaker 1: here with this position, and he knew, you know, some
Speaker 1: of the it's difficult. You did it too, going from
Speaker 1: a journalism background to to working for a website team website,
Speaker 1: and he had a way of kind of seeing through
Speaker 1: me to have those conversations on a deeper level. I
Speaker 1: will always appreciate it, and and just being able to
Speaker 1: get that feedback from him at times. I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's anybody in this building that made me feel
Speaker 1: more welcome about joining the Green Bay Packers and James Camping,
Speaker 1: and I doubt he's watching this, but if he is,
Speaker 1: I have to say thank you to camp Be for yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I'll say this about his coaching tenure here as well.
Speaker 1: A lot of teams spend first round draft picks on
Speaker 1: offensive life, and throughout Mike McCarthy's tenure here, James Camping
Speaker 1: only had two first round draft picks to work with.
Speaker 1: One was Derek Sharad, whose career unfortunately didn't work out
Speaker 1: because of a really nasty leg injury at the end
Speaker 1: of his rookie season, and unfortunately, UM that ended things
Speaker 1: for Derek prematurely, the other one being Brian Bulaga. But
Speaker 1: James Campon has whether you've given him fourth round draft
Speaker 1: picks like Josh Sitton, T J. Lang and David Baktari,
Speaker 1: whether you've given him undrafted guys like Lane Taylor, whether
Speaker 1: you've given him second round picks like Darren College. He's
Speaker 1: always had this Packers offensive line in UH in tremendous shape,
Speaker 1: ready to adjust, UM guys, being cross trained at multiple positions,
Speaker 1: all of that, and I just think he deserves a
Speaker 1: ton of credit for what he accomplished. Now people may
Speaker 1: be wondering, well, well then why isn't he staying with
Speaker 1: the Packers. Well, a new head coach comes in, he's
Speaker 1: gonna have his own ideas. He's going to have ideas
Speaker 1: of people he wants to bring in and ways he
Speaker 1: wants to do things. This is I mean, the fact
Speaker 1: that James Campon is leaving is nothing against him and
Speaker 1: UH and I wish him all the success in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: but his tenure here as an offensive line coach. You
Speaker 1: talk to any player who was in that offensive line
Speaker 1: room with him, they have nothing but respect and glowing
Speaker 1: things to say about him as you and I do
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, and I'm glad you brought up the
Speaker 1: Sharad thing because it actually does lead me to one
Speaker 1: more story. I don't so it's it's obviously you get
Speaker 1: Brian Balog in the building. He ends up becoming the
Speaker 1: youngest right tackle or whatever it was, or starter in
Speaker 1: Super Bowl history at one years old in two thousand
Speaker 1: and ten. But I don't you look at Derek Sharrod
Speaker 1: for example, Sharrod had a devastating injury. I don't know
Speaker 1: if there was anyone anywhere in any profession that was
Speaker 1: more invested into trying to get Derek Sharad back on
Speaker 1: the field and make him the player that they thought
Speaker 1: he could be than James Camping. H just I know
Speaker 1: how much he cared about Derek, how much he cared
Speaker 1: about him as a person in trying to help him. Now,
Speaker 1: ultimately it didn't work out, but I'll say what. I'll
Speaker 1: say this, it wasn't for a lack of trying from
Speaker 1: either Sharad or James Campin's perspective that meant a lot
Speaker 1: to him to be able to get him back on
Speaker 1: a roster whatever the situation may be. However, long he
Speaker 1: may have lasted. That was a difficult injury, an injury
Speaker 1: that required two separate surgeries for Sharade to come back.
Speaker 1: And those are the stories you don't hear about. Whereas
Speaker 1: you look at David box Tr, David Botr was a
Speaker 1: fourth round draft pick in a draft where I believe
Speaker 1: it was seventeen or eighteen different offensive lineman, guards, tackle
Speaker 1: centers that were taking ahead of him. You go back
Speaker 1: and look at his scouting page, as NFL dot Com
Speaker 1: scouting page, people saying that this guy needs to move
Speaker 1: to guard. James Camping helped make a franchise All Pro
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl left tackle out of David box Tr, a
Speaker 1: position that if you redraft that box Tr is a
Speaker 1: top five picks maybe a top three pick. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: absolutely a top five draft pick if you if you
Speaker 1: re select from. And that was where I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people things went a certain way nor near
Speaker 1: the end with Ted Thompson and in you know, in
Speaker 1: frustrations about things. But that was the draft in developmentality
Speaker 1: at its finest, especially that two thousand thirteen draft. JC Treader.
Speaker 1: You know Eddie Lacy, the players, the Packers personnel department
Speaker 1: in and Thompson was able to identify and given him
Speaker 1: to someone like James Campon that was able to develop them.
Speaker 1: It's a great story. I think Campi is going to
Speaker 1: go down as one of the all time best assistants
Speaker 1: that this organization has had. And as you said, though,
Speaker 1: you wish him luck in the next phase, because that's
Speaker 1: what this game is. It's moving and shaking, and now
Speaker 1: he has a good opportunity in Cleveland, which last for him. Well.
Speaker 1: Before we go west, I know, we've got the conference
Speaker 1: championships in the a f C and the NFC coming
Speaker 1: up this weekend. For those who want a little bit
Speaker 1: more of a breakdown. Our previous episode, we talked a
Speaker 1: lot about what was going on in the playoffs through
Speaker 1: division a weekend looking ahead of these conference championships. So
Speaker 1: quickly here before we go today, I'm just gonna put
Speaker 1: you on the spot. Who are you picking. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with the Saints and I'm gonna go with Kansas City.
Speaker 1: And I know the stats, I understand how good Tom
Speaker 1: Brady has been in Cold Weather, But as I said
Speaker 1: on our previous episode, there's just something about this Kansas
Speaker 1: City team. Even though Pat Mahome the The coldest game
Speaker 1: he's ever played in was twenty seven degrees and it
Speaker 1: happened once. There's still something about the way that that
Speaker 1: team is structured. I think they're going to find a
Speaker 1: way to win. It will not be easy. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be playing the Patriots and all Pro mode, all Madden Mode,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be exciting to watch. As far as
Speaker 1: New Orleans, I've said it all along. Why change the statement?
Speaker 1: Now you have to beat them in the Superdome. Nobody's
Speaker 1: been able to do it. Yeah, I'm with you on
Speaker 1: both games. I've I've been bullish on the New Orleans
Speaker 1: Saints since last January when I thought they were the
Speaker 1: best team in the playoffs, and I think they might
Speaker 1: have won the whole thing if not for that Minneapolis miracle.
Speaker 1: I think the Saints are going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I don't see them losing in the Superdome. With regards
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs and the Patriots, I agree with a
Speaker 1: lot of things that you said with regards to the
Speaker 1: cold weather and Mahomes young quarterbacks, when they get into
Speaker 1: that freezing cold weather, and even if they're not used
Speaker 1: to it, it doesn't seem to affect him. As much,
Speaker 1: at least from what I've seen as as the older quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Not that Tom Brady is any stranger to cold weather,
Speaker 1: certainly coming from New England. But I'll also say this,
Speaker 1: the last two times the New England Patriots have played
Speaker 1: on the road in the a f C Championship, they
Speaker 1: lost both of them to the Denver Broncos. I've been
Speaker 1: saying a lot in Insider, in box and elsewhere there's
Speaker 1: a lot of this dynasty of the Patriots that has
Speaker 1: been built on being able to play home games in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And there's nothing wrong with that, but it's
Speaker 1: just a fact. You look at the number of the
Speaker 1: vast large majority of home games they've had in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: that is what has helped build the dynasty. They're on
Speaker 1: the road for this one, so I think I think
Speaker 1: Kansas City beats him because you look at New England's
Speaker 1: road record in the postseason over time, they're not really
Speaker 1: that much better than anybody else when they play in
Speaker 1: the playoffs away from Foxborough. So I'm going with that.
Speaker 1: I think Kansas City gets to the super Bowl. And
Speaker 1: so much was made this past week Mike about now
Speaker 1: a week ago about Sean Payton bringing in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Trophy, the money, all that stuff. Is there anything
Speaker 1: more motivating right now for Andy Reid than the Lamar
Speaker 1: Hunt Trophy being there right now on the podium with
Speaker 1: the two helmets for first time that that's happened in
Speaker 1: in the team that Lamar Hunt built, the organization, the stadium,
Speaker 1: and have a chance to play for that trophy at
Speaker 1: your home. Yeah, no question about it. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a great Sunday of NFL football. Hope everyone
Speaker 1: enjoys that. I know I will. So with that, we
Speaker 1: will sign off on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be
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