WEBVTT - Raise The Age Law

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's up. Family, I'm your girl to make a

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<v Speaker 1>d Mallory's you, and we're your hosts of Street Politicians,

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<v Speaker 1>the place where the streets and politics meet. Yet another

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<v Speaker 1>good information. That's right. So every week we've been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to really bring some real thought out um topics to people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been getting the feedback from folks seeing them

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<v Speaker 1>out at events and in different spaces. Listen, number one,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to speak it into existing the number one

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<v Speaker 1>podcast in the world, every number one in our hearts.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's certainly right into the charts on the charts,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know. And I'm really proud of it

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<v Speaker 1>because I know how we started it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a dope idea, UM that I was resisting because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like being on camera on a regular basis. I

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<v Speaker 1>love my new thing. I've been doing my Facebook audio

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<v Speaker 1>things and I just sit there wherever I can have

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<v Speaker 1>my bond it on. I can, you know, not have

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<v Speaker 1>my face be I can just do me run my

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<v Speaker 1>run it because you know, I know how to run

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<v Speaker 1>my mouth. I just could have had realized that we

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<v Speaker 1>could have had the first podcast. We could have been

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<v Speaker 1>like the entrepreneurs a podcast if you would have listened

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<v Speaker 1>to me about three or four years ago. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you did, you said, and I said, because you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>me to go to a studio that's in Delaware on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the town. And then we met

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<v Speaker 1>Cat Trig and the entire Cat Skate team and then

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<v Speaker 1>we found a median of a place that we could go. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just be clear, but it is um. It is

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<v Speaker 1>good to still be in there in the space and look,

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<v Speaker 1>even our picture changed. Oh anyway, UM, so lots of

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<v Speaker 1>talk about today. We're focusing on um our our now

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<v Speaker 1>our brother Dante Mitchell that I'm really so excited, like

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<v Speaker 1>we do have two Mitchell's today, and I'm really really

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<v Speaker 1>excited for Dante, Like I'm so excited. He's so smart,

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<v Speaker 1>very smart kid. That's what That's what really started our connection.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, I've just seen him and then he reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to me. We started talking and just hearing his energy,

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<v Speaker 1>hearing how articulately was knowing that he was gonna come

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<v Speaker 1>into society and immediately be a change maker man so

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a dope interview with him. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>like one of those stories that it actually worked. The

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<v Speaker 1>advocacy of everybody putting his name out into the world

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<v Speaker 1>gave the former governor, uh Andrew Cuomo I forgot his name,

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<v Speaker 1>gave him you know, and his whoever works on his

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<v Speaker 1>clemency packages. They were able to get the information. The

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<v Speaker 1>awareness was there because he was advocating inside the walls,

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<v Speaker 1>but people outside, we're calling his name, sharing his story,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's how you get on the list, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta. It's not they don't just go scouring through

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that's in prison and say, oh, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>usually people's voices are being raised about a particular person.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks are writing, people adding you on Instagram, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of a lot of these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these government officials have Instagram, they have

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<v Speaker 1>they have people that and they said, let me go

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<v Speaker 1>see if somebody's talking about you know, and you continue

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<v Speaker 1>see that, then you realize that the voice of the

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<v Speaker 1>people wants this, you know. And that's what I tell people, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we we gotta utilize our voices. And this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those very rare instances where we actually seen the justice.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've seen something come from our voice. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times we get deterred and we get jaded

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<v Speaker 1>and we get tired because there's so many setbacks and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of not a lot of winds. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a it's a big win. Twenty four years this

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<v Speaker 1>young man uh sat inside of a prison, but he

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<v Speaker 1>really fall from himself. So shout out to Dante. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be up soon. And then, like you said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the two Mitchell's because we're also going to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>our change maker today. But I'm not going to spoil

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<v Speaker 1>lit and tell people who it is. I'm just excited

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<v Speaker 1>that my my bro is coming up. Yep. So let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a lot of stuff happening. The whole world

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<v Speaker 1>is bugging as always. That's first of all, the COVID

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<v Speaker 1>COVID pandemic. Nobody knows what to do. So that's just

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<v Speaker 1>let's just get that out out there that regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're vaccinated unvaccinated, in New York, if you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to a restaurant, you can't go to a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>This pandemic is still a major crisis. And um, how

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get our hands around it. God only knows,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just you know, they're more there are

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<v Speaker 1>people who are still dying. Over the last two weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been hearing about a number of individuals who have

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<v Speaker 1>passed away who are close to folks that I know.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are like not distant stories that I just

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<v Speaker 1>saw on the news, but people who have actually died.

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<v Speaker 1>And just you know, also for for folks who are

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<v Speaker 1>listening today, if you've had COVID and since it went away,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't been to the doctor to get yourself checked,

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<v Speaker 1>just to you know, get your regular check up, you

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<v Speaker 1>should because there are people who we are now finding

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<v Speaker 1>out that a year later, months later, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>symptoms or other conditions are popping up, and people are

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<v Speaker 1>are experiencing other things that are as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>them having COVID. So it's really something that you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to take seriously. And as the guy on Instagram says,

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<v Speaker 1>where your mask, We're your mask that you still tell

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<v Speaker 1>us all the time. Get some fresh ye at all,

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<v Speaker 1>Please get you some fresh year man. We gotta we

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<v Speaker 1>just have to be just use common sense, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with anything that you do. I don't advocate for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't tell you what to do what not to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but just use common sense. You advocate for anything. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't advocate any way or anothers You

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<v Speaker 1>know this is this is new to us. COVID is

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<v Speaker 1>very new to us, and I think we just need

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<v Speaker 1>to be getting checkups on the regular as we get

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<v Speaker 1>older and you in your forties and late thirties and forties, like,

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<v Speaker 1>go get checked up. Something don't feel right. Don't sit

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<v Speaker 1>there and say well, I can fight it off. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not a kid no more. Your immune system is not

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<v Speaker 1>strong as strong as it was. A lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>you're just not fighting off on your own, especially as

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<v Speaker 1>black men. Black men have a problem with going to

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor. That's got to be a show. That's a show.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually a production team has been talking about doing a

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<v Speaker 1>show or why black men don't get the type of

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<v Speaker 1>care that a lot of us don't trust. We just

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<v Speaker 1>don't trust that they get plastic surgery. We heard about

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<v Speaker 1>that a couple of weeks ago. But they get this

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<v Speaker 1>stomachs uh laid down. Dr Michael Jones told us that

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<v Speaker 1>they get it sucked out, they get the eyelids straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Teach his own man if you if you need, do

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<v Speaker 1>what you got. And then in other news, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Joe Manson, the Senator from Virginia who is

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<v Speaker 1>a Democrat supposedly he identifies as a Democrat, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's the president. I really think that Joe Manson runs

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<v Speaker 1>this country. And you know that's a thing like if

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<v Speaker 1>you watch these movies that are about politics, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these these these shows that kind of give you, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like, you know, where they're acting out being

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<v Speaker 1>president or being an administration running stuff. These shows always

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<v Speaker 1>have people who are within the ranks, whether they be

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<v Speaker 1>another elected official or a staff member or just a

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<v Speaker 1>rich person and particularly a rich white man, where they

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<v Speaker 1>have more power than the president. And to me, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Manchin is the president. He gets to decide because he

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<v Speaker 1>is in many ways if if you don't have his support,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't use the majority power within the Senate. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how narrow the numbers are in terms of having having

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to vote in a bill against the Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>you need Joe Manchin's vote, and he sides pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>with the Republicans on a lot of issues. He at

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<v Speaker 1>least has very very conservative views and has been very

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<v Speaker 1>very clear that if he is not able to get

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<v Speaker 1>or if they are the Democrats are not able to get,

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans wayne with us, have not been with us, have

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<v Speaker 1>actually been harmful to everything we attempt to get done.

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<v Speaker 1>That they that he won't vote for the bill he

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<v Speaker 1>wants the Republicans, so he basically is saying, let's give

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<v Speaker 1>them what they need so before we can sign bills.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that right now is happening,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know it's been the last several weeks, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hopefully this thing will get worked out really soon,

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<v Speaker 1>is the the infrastructure bill which is three plug was

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's our three point four but it maybe Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's three point four. I know it's more

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<v Speaker 1>than three trillion dollars that's needed to deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>number of things in our society, and including making sure

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<v Speaker 1>people get back to work, infrastructure stuff like real infrastructure issues,

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<v Speaker 1>bridges and tunnels, things that hadn't been taken care of

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<v Speaker 1>because of the pandemic. And there's five point three billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in that bill for a gun violence intervention and prevention, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so what do you mean you're not I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand what he means he's not going to sign the bill.

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<v Speaker 1>He means he's not going to sign the bill. So

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom line is we've just been hoodwinked Man and

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<v Speaker 1>the government. It's like kangaroo court. It's like a kangaroo court. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So we go and we put all of this energy

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<v Speaker 1>into voting for these people, and then they got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they got secret they got their secret agents, double agents.

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<v Speaker 1>That's on our side. And when it's our turn to

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<v Speaker 1>actually get a vote, they come and say no. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm not with that. But whenever it is

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican situation, they never signed with us. There's no Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I'm holding up the Republicans because I

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<v Speaker 1>need to Democrats. Well that's not true. There's like one person,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Liz Cheney. Representative Liz Cheney. Um, she has

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<v Speaker 1>stood up to Donald Trump and particularly been fighting against

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<v Speaker 1>this lie that the election was stolen from him. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, nobody, I haven't. We're not passing these bills. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she has been one to advocate to fight

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<v Speaker 1>against things that she thinks is wrong. But it's this

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<v Speaker 1>one one lady. Really, there's not many of them, now

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<v Speaker 1>what I and and sometimes you know I watched them.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you'll see different senators and and particularly congressional members

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<v Speaker 1>saying like, I think we're going too far, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we won't vote for these bills. There needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>some negotiations around changing the terms, but it's never really

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of black communities. So to your point, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't see Republicans stepping out of line to say I

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<v Speaker 1>want to protect black people, but you always issues that

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<v Speaker 1>are important or or or or marginalized communities. But you

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<v Speaker 1>do see Democrats who, even if it hurts marginalized communities,

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<v Speaker 1>they are willing to side with um, with the Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>and others just to say, oh, you know, we're working together.

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<v Speaker 1>You see Democrats who are like, well, we don't need

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<v Speaker 1>uh qualified immunity included in the bill, knowing that that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things that if we pass qualified and

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<v Speaker 1>if we end qualified immunity, we could actually make officers

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<v Speaker 1>feel more accountable, which might make them even more conscious

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<v Speaker 1>about how they address and operate within our communities. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the reason why they don't want to end

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<v Speaker 1>qualified immunity, that's why they're fighting that one because they

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<v Speaker 1>know that's one of the most important pieces of the bill.

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<v Speaker 1>So and but yet we'll see, but we'll see Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>line up and say, well, you know, maybe we'll just

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<v Speaker 1>take that off the table so we could get something done.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, you're right, it's all a bunch of bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that Joe Mansion I want. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to I want the kind of power that Joe Manson has.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta figure out how to make that happen in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. He's definitely, he's definitely leveraged his position. He's

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<v Speaker 1>leverage there. He knows he's got that vote. He knows

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<v Speaker 1>that his vote is important in order for anything to pass.

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<v Speaker 1>So he feels like his his community West Virginians. D

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<v Speaker 1>of well, that's why I was getting ready to get

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<v Speaker 1>into West Virginians, right. They that, particularly his constituents, they're

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<v Speaker 1>more conservative people who vote Democrats, so they're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>almost Republican and that's why they claim. Yeah, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they claim that he takes the types of stances that

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<v Speaker 1>he takes because his constituents will not vote him in

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<v Speaker 1>and so that then the Democrats will say, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to lose the c because there has been

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<v Speaker 1>other things that Joe Manchin has voted on in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of the Democrats and and you know, in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>some of the issues that we care about. So he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been all the way. I won't say bad, but

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been all the way against the Democrats either,

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<v Speaker 1>So he's so he fluctuates and fluffs his way through

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more towards it today, right, And it's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very dangerous. And I think you know that advocates

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<v Speaker 1>like yourself need to go into West Virginia and help

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<v Speaker 1>West Virginians who don't agree with him to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>a strategy to get about But you got but the

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<v Speaker 1>only way you get people those types of people out

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<v Speaker 1>that you gotta vote them out. So I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching a few weeks ago the mat gallup, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was thinking, we should do a show on fashion, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but from the perspective of like trends and um and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we could do a lot of different things

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<v Speaker 1>about fashion, But I would like to talk to people

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<v Speaker 1>like June Ambrose and other big designers about how they

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<v Speaker 1>make these decisions on what people are going to wear

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<v Speaker 1>and what the themes are at these events, because at

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<v Speaker 1>the met gala, I was a little uh stunned, if

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<v Speaker 1>you will, by some of what I saw. I really

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<v Speaker 1>saw a lot of mess Like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>look messy to me. I don't you know? This is

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<v Speaker 1>that my section? This is well, but you had opinion

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<v Speaker 1>about a few peoples. I'm I'm confused with fashion these days,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>is designed to do. I don't know if it's just

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<v Speaker 1>pure shot value, you know, or what is the whole

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<v Speaker 1>theme of it? Like you were just having a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what I've seen, you know, this kill thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't I'm trying to get to what the

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<v Speaker 1>fascist Like, why is every time that a man decides

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<v Speaker 1>to culte this this big fashion statement and celebration of it, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what what is that? Actually? What is it signified in

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<v Speaker 1>the fashion world? What is it actually? Well? I mean, well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, the history of kilts in general, that

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<v Speaker 1>I also am noticing a lot of people are not

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<v Speaker 1>aware of, is that men wore kilts all throughout First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, have been wearing kilts all throughout history, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I get your point. It's like Okay, if a

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<v Speaker 1>man wears a kilt, it seems to be so like

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<v Speaker 1>exciting to a lot of folks. But I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you see a man in a banging suit and he's

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<v Speaker 1>super sexy, that is is celebrated as well because you

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<v Speaker 1>see men post like the best picture and everybody's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, look how good he looks that I

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<v Speaker 1>see it? Well, maybe because you're not looking for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's also what might be like you see it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, why is everybody on the well? But well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think whether or not it's just a soup mice.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people fashion moves because it is all publicized.

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<v Speaker 1>Right jay Z takes off the jerseys, puts on a

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<v Speaker 1>different type of shirt. It moves, everybody sees it. It

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<v Speaker 1>gets shared. Now everybody's wearing these types of shirts. You

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<v Speaker 1>say integrity over income. You put that hat on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Next thing you know, everybody people are buying it from you,

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<v Speaker 1>They're sharing it. I think fashion moves in general, and

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that there is an element we can't

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<v Speaker 1>deny that there's a gender conversation that comes up, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it becomes, you know, it becomes something more to

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<v Speaker 1>be discussed because people are like, you know, what does

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<v Speaker 1>this mean, and what's the agenda? And all these different

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<v Speaker 1>things that those conversations constantly come up. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>people just let people do whatever hell and wear whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the hell they want to wear, it doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be that much because you can't stop people from win

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Right, So when you wh when you do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>you're subject to someone else's opinion and that's just part

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<v Speaker 1>of life. So for me, you know, I don't everybody

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<v Speaker 1>should be able and willing to do whatever where, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want to wear. I'm just trying to I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to figure out the fascin nation. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a resurgence of fashion. So the bell bottoms

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<v Speaker 1>come back every now and then wide legged pants, the

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever it's there's a resurgence of that and

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<v Speaker 1>the simple it's Another example was like Chloe Bailey comes out,

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<v Speaker 1>it's tight as short, it's sexy, and everybody's going crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Lizzo walks out, she's half naked with her body and

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<v Speaker 1>know her being an oversized woman. Hey, everybody's talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just people just you know, people are

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<v Speaker 1>attracted to different they want to see something different. They

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<v Speaker 1>want to see something that makes them feel like seeing right,

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<v Speaker 1>because as a as a man or a woman or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>they might be like, Okay, I don't like to dress

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<v Speaker 1>with the norm of exactly what they say I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to wear, because that's what makes me a man or

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<v Speaker 1>a woman. So I'm gonna put this other thing on

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<v Speaker 1>that will, like you said, provide some shock value, show

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<v Speaker 1>my that I'm different. I'm not like everybody else, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet I'm still whoever I am. But that but and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good conversation, and we should talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm trying to figure out why people wear such

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<v Speaker 1>ugly clothes. Now. See, that's a different whole conversation because

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<v Speaker 1>there was some stuff that I saw on that Red

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<v Speaker 1>Carson Because right when you look at how ugly it is,

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<v Speaker 1>or in your perception of ugly, right, it makes people talk.

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<v Speaker 1>It's for shock value. I'm different, I'm I can wear

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<v Speaker 1>the least attractive thing and get attention in it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's where it's comes. Some people don't get

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<v Speaker 1>no attention today, there was a lot of and they've

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<v Speaker 1>got the attention regardless of worse. People like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is this? Somebody's talking about it, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>we've come to a stage in our culture with that

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<v Speaker 1>is that is a marketing strategy. Right to go so

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<v Speaker 1>far left, to go so far disaccording to whatever normalized

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<v Speaker 1>as acceptable or it looks like beauty or whatever. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just to go so far from that that people talk

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<v Speaker 1>about you, well, hey, look how Prince used to dress

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<v Speaker 1>like That was a big conversation. Friends came out. He

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<v Speaker 1>had multiple things going on in one Look, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson the same thing. Like I guess there's always

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<v Speaker 1>been that fashion forward mindset that you know, I could

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<v Speaker 1>be different, but I wanted to talk to the experts.

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<v Speaker 1>Like first of all, June Ambrose at the met gal.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have not, you should go to her page

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<v Speaker 1>and check out you know what what she wore. She

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<v Speaker 1>looked amazing, Okay, Mary J. Blige amazing, Little Baby fabulous,

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<v Speaker 1>Mega Stallion fabulous. And these are also people Sierra amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could go on, but these are also people

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<v Speaker 1>that we know them well enough to know that they

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<v Speaker 1>just like classic looks. I don't know what the theme was.

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't know where people was going, but I

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<v Speaker 1>I just I saw some some some stuff that was

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<v Speaker 1>It's very different. It was very divery different. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was thinking about. We have to have a show. Understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even understand a set Rocky in Rihanna. I

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<v Speaker 1>looked at it. I didn't I didn't know what was

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<v Speaker 1>he in a quilt? Like I think they said it

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<v Speaker 1>was Valenciaga. I don't care what the name to what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. Well, the theme was supposed to be something

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<v Speaker 1>about American like like like old American classics. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why Sierra had on the football jersey because that's an

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<v Speaker 1>American classic. Yeah, so that's why we have to invite

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<v Speaker 1>people like Julie Ambrose here so we can expla they know,

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<v Speaker 1>because because while she may have had while June's look

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<v Speaker 1>may have been very you know, beautiful classic look, she's able.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure she dressed some of those other people and

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<v Speaker 1>she can explain her and others why, and other stylists

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<v Speaker 1>can explain the difference. I don't know even our stylists.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to ask Ladden and Mia. We need some

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<v Speaker 1>answers because we got some questions. So today we have

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a very special guest, um a brother that

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<v Speaker 1>I met through the struggle, you know, um a few

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<v Speaker 1>months ago, I was introduced to this brother struggled through

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<v Speaker 1>social media. I came across now what video talking about

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<v Speaker 1>his situation, how he had been incarcerated since he was

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen for a crime that didn't involve any violence, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was in jail for twenty four years at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sentenced to seventy years originally. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it really was something that really touched me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I decided to repost and and and somehow the

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<v Speaker 1>brother reached out to me, you know, he got connected

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<v Speaker 1>with me, and um, I took personal his struggle, his struggle,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we realized that I was actually incarcerated with him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when I was in Sing sing in nine nine,

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<v Speaker 1>he was actually on the same block as me. I

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<v Speaker 1>was younger than Yeah, we we figured that out. He

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<v Speaker 1>told me, like, yeah, he was in sing sing with me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so there was always like, you know, these

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.440
<v Speaker 1>small degrees of separation. So, you know, I was inclined

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<v Speaker 1>to do ever can for the brother, and so, um,

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<v Speaker 1>he was just recently released, you know, after he was

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<v Speaker 1>granted clemency. And this is a brother that I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>to see here on the other side of the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>No more prison calls, you know, no more lone nights

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<v Speaker 1>of him just trying to figure out how because this

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<v Speaker 1>man really took serious his freedom and he called me daily,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, checking up on people, sometimes bugging them and

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, calm down, we got this. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his his passion was really drew me to him. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to welcome home my brother Dante and

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<v Speaker 1>foul me Mitchell. What's going on? King? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm alright, brother, man? How are you? I can't complain man,

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>how you feeling? Feeling it? Lated? Cited? No, I'm ready

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>get the work through the things that I've been doing. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>take the same energy that got me, you know, released,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, to try to help uplift and empower

0:24:56.440 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 1>my community. That's a beautiful thing. Man. Tis so nice

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>to see you on the screen. You know, I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>your story many times. I've actually, you know, as I

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 1>worked very closely with my son, I have watched him

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>go through emotional struggles and of course some Angelo Pinto

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<v Speaker 1>attorney Angelo Pinto, who I also worked with every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've watched them having conversations, trying to figure things out,

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<v Speaker 1>making phone calls to people, um, you know, bringing you

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<v Speaker 1>all you your name up in conversations with the top

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>people that you know they could talk to about what

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.679
<v Speaker 1>was happening to you. And you know, I know I

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<v Speaker 1>and I also know how frustrating it was because they

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>would say like, we're frustrated. He's frustrated, you know, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>And but you would I'm not I've not witnessed someone

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:52.479
<v Speaker 1>advocate for themselves the way that you did, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you continue to advocate for yourself. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to salute you, UM, and just tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that your strength and resilience is so important and

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<v Speaker 1>how you helped to translate that to the world is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be what I you know, think is is

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<v Speaker 1>God's message and the reason why you went through everything

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<v Speaker 1>that you went through, right right, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell us, you know, just like breakdown. You know

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you went to prison seventeen years. Give us a brief

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<v Speaker 1>synopsis of that situation which you were sentenced to, how

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<v Speaker 1>long you were there. Just give people a little feeling

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<v Speaker 1>or what it is so we can they can understand.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, you know, at the age of eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>I end up being taken away from my mother in

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<v Speaker 1>place in Falster Kid until I was sixteen years old.

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<v Speaker 1>When I turned sixteen years old, I signed out a

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<v Speaker 1>Falster Kid, and ten months later I was incarcerated. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I held out a job, but I was in between

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<v Speaker 1>living situations. So I was going to different youth shelters,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, trying to you know, do the independent living thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Um, I end up getting caught up with

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong crowd, introduced to a life of guns and

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>robbery and stuff like that, and it just kind of

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>sucked me in. So um after I lost my job

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<v Speaker 1>and I end up being displaced from one of the

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.679
<v Speaker 1>shelters that I was living at. You know, I've seen that,

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you know. You know, doing a robbery was a quick

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>way of getting money, so you know, I went down

0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 1>that route, you know, and of course hindsight, you look

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>at it in retrospect, it wasn't the most wise decision.

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>But I was a kid, you know, struggling to find

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>himself and find his place in the world. And I

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>made that mistake, even though I didn't hurt harm or

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>injure anyone. And I was the first time felling the offender.

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, I was giving an exorbitant amount of time

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>thirty five or seventy years, and that was pretty much

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>punishment from the judge because I chose to exercise my

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>constitution right to a travel. And the reason why I

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 1>did that is because you know, there was some you know,

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>some things that the Orbany City Police Department had did

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 1>in order to secure the conviction that was illegal and

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty much unjust. You know, they say capitcorns of the

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>type of people when they see something unjust that you know,

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna fight, you know, hard for you know, to

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>to to to deal with or to alleviate that injustice.

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 1>So that that has always been me. And because I've

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>seen that, all right, you know, so I'm like, you know,

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>here it is you guys. You know your railroading me.

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>But you want me to, uh, you know, own up

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 1>and take responsibility for what I did wrong. Whatever you

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 1>guys are, y'all, y'r police depart you are police officers.

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:30.959
<v Speaker 1>Wanted to oppose the law, but you break the law

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>in order to try to enforce it makes no sense.

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>So even at that young tender age, I understood what

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>injustice was. So I decided to go to trial and

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>try my hand for as punishment for doing that. You know,

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the judge basically through the book at me called me

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>a plague to society, you know. And now what what

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>was the crime? It was a robbery and to attempt

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>at robberies and related offenses like criminal possession of a weapon,

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>criminal use of a weapon and grand lost me hm.

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>And so in thirty five to seventy years at seventeen

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>years old was the sentence? Now does that? And this

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>so this is in New York State. So this means

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that you would tried it as an adult, which is

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>the raised the Age law that Angelo and so many

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>and all of us fought to change. Um. So if that,

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 1>if Raised the Age had been lifted, you know, if

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Raised the Age had passed as a law at that time,

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>if that was a bill that was in place, he

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>would not have been tried as an adult. He would

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>have been tried as a child and gone to programs,

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>detention centers and you know what have you and given services. Right.

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to make sure that that's what we've

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:49.959
<v Speaker 1>been talking about, or I want to correct you because

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I've been following and Raised the Age law since it's

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>been passed. I know that Angelo and a few others

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>who initially you know, introduced it, wanted to go you know,

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>as far as they could juvenile offenders weren't treated as adults.

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>But the bill got watered down. And you know, so

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>people I mean, and you know it's like you damn

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>if you do you damn people don't. So I don't

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>fought the advocates like Angelo and others, you know, for

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the work that they did. You know, we are living

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>in a very diabolical system, so they're gonna look for

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>any way to maintain their interests to ensure that they

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>keep these prisons open. So even though uh that raised

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the age, law has made it uh much easier for

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>juvenile offenders to be treated as children. Especially if you

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>have non violent crimes, you automatically go to family court.

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>But if you were charged with a violent crime, even

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>in a situation like me where no no one was

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>hurt harmon injury, it's still gonna go to um the

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 1>adult court. But they got something called the youth part um,

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>but you still get the same amount of time. Is

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>that right? The judge is supposed to you know, look

0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:00.120
<v Speaker 1>into your your youth at that time as an the

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>gating factor. But they basically left the loophole for them

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>to still keep guys in prison even when the law

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>was passed, it was being phased in. So unlike when

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>they reformed the Rocket Feller drug laws, they allow for guys,

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, to file what they called for fort emotions

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 1>to go back down the court to get their resentence.

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>They didn't do the same thing for those of us

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>who were juvenile offenders at the time that we committed

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>our offenses so that we can get resentenced. They basically say,

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what, We're just gonna sweep all of you

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>guys under the rug. Even the seventeen and eighteen roles

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>that were being sentenced around the time of the law

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>was being passed were still getting railroad is but not.

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>But but to be clear, with the law that is

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>currently in place, it would have at least not necessarily

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>changed your situation. But it could have. Is that that's it, okay,

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>But it could okay. I'm just just you know, we

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>always want to tie together the advocacy, the work that's

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>being done on the ground with real life stories, you

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So I'm just trying to understand

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>because this show is about not just about educating the

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>masses it's about us learning as well. It's what we're

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>doing working, what should we be doing more of? How

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>can Until Freedom Out organization be better advocates? And so

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that's why I just wanted to know hands on how

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>would raise the age I've impacted you if it worked properly.

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>So thanks for helping me. Listen, he's educating us man.

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>That's why I advocated from speaking to him. From the

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>first day I spoke to him, I understood that he

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>had done his research, that he had utilized his time

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to grow as a man, to you know, to educate himself,

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and he wanted to come home and be a productive

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>member of society. So he's definitely in tune and understands

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:46.959
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. I just think when we look at

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>this his case, right, and this is what I always say,

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>the the category, the category of violence, right has to change,

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, because they put all the everything under the

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>guise of a viol and crime and a lot of

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>these things. When you look when you say that nobody

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>was harm nobody, like, there has to be different categories

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>of violent. Okay, we understand that there was a weapon involved,

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>but if nobody was hurt with that weapon, there should

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>be a different category to where it doesn't not automatically

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>just put you under this violent category with people who

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>are actually murderers and all of these things. It has

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to be different dynamics, and those dynamics should be taken

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>into consideration when they're giving these sentences, when they're given,

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, the way that they categorize these trials, and

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's what happened to him and the same thing

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>that happened with me. You know, even though there was

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>never any weapon found, there was actually no evidence at all,

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>but it was classified a violent crime. So a lot

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>of once they classified the violent crime, you don't get

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the provisions. A lot of people get you. You can't

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>go take programs once they say they stamp this thing

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>violent on you. They don't give you programs, they don't

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>give you certain releases that they give everybody else. And

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>it's and it just pigeonholds us and locks us and

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>it just mainly just focuses and goes against us as

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>black men. Yeah, so what do you want to see

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>happen now? Like, are you thinking of legislation that needs

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to be introduced? Um? You know, your mind works is

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>so sharp, and I'm just wondering. I'm sure that you

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 1>have come up with some concept of what you think

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 1>needs to happen as the next step for not just

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Dante Mitchell, but for the movement. Absolutely man. The things

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that I fail need to happen with the raised the

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>age lawd one that needs to apply retroactive. And all

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>those young men and women that have been sentenced as

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>juvenile offenders, you know when the law was passed. Prior

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to the law of being passed, they should be given

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>some type of amnesty. Their cases should be looked over

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they should be given the opportunity to

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>earn their way out of prison. Another thing I feelt

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 1>is that those individuals who are still left behind, you know,

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>they should be given the opportunity, you know, to to

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.320
<v Speaker 1>have true merit time. They shouldn't have to do it.

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>If you got ten years, you should have to do

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 1>uh eighty five percent of your time because you were

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>juven at the time to commit your offense. Um the

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>law should also be raised. I think. I think if

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you twenty one and under, you should you know, the

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.760
<v Speaker 1>raise the age laws should apply. Another thing I believe

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>needs to happen is that every juvenile should automatic go

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>to family court. It should be on the prosecutor to

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>make an application to the judge and family court to

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 1>move the case to adult court if they feel that

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>there are certain aggravating factors that require that, but to

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>send their kids to adult courts and then letting adult

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>court judge determine whether or not should be sent back

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>to family court only on the consent of the prosecutor.

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Man that right, there is just another bootphole for them

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>to keep God's and you know, not just God's but

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>these children umu concerting and subjected to. And two more

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 1>things that I think are very very important that the

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>law never applied, never really focused on. The first one

0:35:56.239 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 1>is really providing proper rehability of treatment for the young

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>offenders that are in prison. Now, I've read a few

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>law articles and studies that make it very clear that

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>when you send a person who is under twenty five

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>years old and put them in an adult institution, you're

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna do a lot of damage to them behaviorally and cognitively.

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna get the same development that they would

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:24.720
<v Speaker 1>give if they were placing a more more conducive environment

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to their to their reformer rehabilitation. So you're setting them

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>up from jump you're gonna sense eighteen nineteen and I

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>mentor a lot of eighteen nineteen twenty year olds through

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>my UFD organization that are created in two thousand eight.

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>So I have a lot of young men that are

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>part of that, and I see the damage that is

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 1>being done to them, you know, in the environments that

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 1>they're in. I always used to say to myself, man,

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>if I could just you know, bring some of these

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>young men into a more uh conducive environment, like a

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 1>facility where you know, guys like myself who are you know,

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>educated and have already transformed ourselves to be rolled my

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>us for them, like the program that they got a

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Connecticut called True you know, where they take young guys

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 1>and they pair them more for older guys, and they

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:09.760
<v Speaker 1>put them in a separate housing unit where the housing

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>unit is the best unit of the facility. You know,

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>this is that that needs to happen. You know, they

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:16.919
<v Speaker 1>need to have an environment in a space for these

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>um young men and women who are these adult facilities

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>where they can get the proper rehabilitative treatment. And the

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>last and most important aspect, I think the raises the

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:29.280
<v Speaker 1>age laws should have dealt with is provided more funding

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to prevent youth crime. I mean, let's not let's not um.

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's not um, you know, treat the illness when it happens,

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Let's try to prevent it from happening. You know, That's

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>why I'm head back in the city of Albany. You

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>know already, you know, I'm getting involved. There's two young

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 1>men that I just met on the street, you know,

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>just started talking to them. You know. One kid wants

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 1>to get into real estate. Another kid, he has a

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.919
<v Speaker 1>clothing line. You know, he's they're both working, they're trying

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to do the right thing. One seventeen years old and

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>one is twenty three. You know. But there's a lot

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>of other young men that my community that are getting

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 1>involved in a lot of gun violence, etcetera. So you know,

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>we got to figure out a way to get involved

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>in their lives down in order to prevent them from

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>end to ending up going in that direction that's gonna

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, cause them to get caught up

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>in the criminal justice system in the first place. So,

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, my thing to the New York State Legislator

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and also the Cathy Hoble where the money yet to

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>be able to provide, you know, the actual resources necessary

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>to save our children. And I think and that's and

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you said, you know, you brought up a very good point,

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.239
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what it is that we try

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to explain to people who we say, defund the police

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>is not take all the money from the police. Is

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 1>not shut down the police, because we understand that there

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 1>is a need for police in our communities, but we

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 1>need to make sure that we take some of these

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>resources and money that's allocated to people who are just

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 1>doing over time, sitting at death doing nothing to give

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to health, you know, to to give public health and

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:02.799
<v Speaker 1>shooting public safety, um health, mental health, people who know

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 1>how to deal with that violence interrupt as people such

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.839
<v Speaker 1>as yourself who come home and are are able to

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 1>connect with the community, connect with these young people who

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>are in these situations, be able to fund your organization

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.359
<v Speaker 1>that you want to start, you know, to be able

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to fund a lot of different organizations and give it

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>to the credible messengers in our community because we're underfunded.

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, we have to get in front of

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>the violence. We gotta get in front of the negativity

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 1>in our communities. And in the main, the main reason

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>for negativity and violence in our community is poverty. That

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>is the main And when you look when you look

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 1>at violence all over this nation, it is in the

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>most impoverished communities. So there's a direct correlation. There's no

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>denying it. We don't you You don't see violence happening

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.879
<v Speaker 1>at the rate anywhere near what's going on in the hood,

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:57.320
<v Speaker 1>in in communities where they are doing above average and

0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>they are flourishing and they have money and re sources,

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>you just don't see it happening, right, So so let's

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:06.479
<v Speaker 1>go to some personal stuff as we you don't get

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>ready to wind down. What did you do when you

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>got home? Huh? Well, besides the fact that you know,

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, my son and my family, Maurice Ballad, we

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>all basically, yeah, Mr fun Work, Yeah, we basically we

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 1>took basically took over a diner and we all, you know,

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 1>we just had a good time, man, just enjoying each

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:34.280
<v Speaker 1>other's you know, president and energy. And but my main priority,

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, when I came home, wasn't the typical priority

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know for somebody in my position. You know,

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 1>my main priority is my eleven year old common law nephew. Um,

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, his his name is Marcello Martinez. Man, he

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>was he's having a really hard time. He has a

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 1>d h D. He's eleven years old. Um, he's living

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>with his paternal grandmother who's in their sixty She has

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a bad knee, and he was acting up, you know.

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 1>So during the time that I was incarcerating our up

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>to more on the phone. Um, I wasn't sure whether

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>or not I will come home. But I told him,

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, when I come home and come

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>get you, man, I'm gonna take you places. Man, We're

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna work on this. I don't think that you're a

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 1>bad kid. You know, you might make bad choices, but

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 1>you're not a bad kid. Because he used somebody's telling

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 1>me I'm a bad kids Like, no, no, you're not.

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.919
<v Speaker 1>But he wasn't getting the proper you know, positive reinforcement.

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 1>So he was one of the first people that you know,

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I've seen what little money that I did have. Um,

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, I took him, you know, out to Cross Gates,

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 1>which is a moral in Orbany, and uh, you know,

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:32.879
<v Speaker 1>I brought him some legos and just spent some time

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 1>with him, just going yeah, yeah, loose like man. But

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:42.959
<v Speaker 1>but it was just it was just such a fun

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.879
<v Speaker 1>and fulfilling, you know, experience to be there with him.

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>And then I end up getting my ten year old cousin.

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 1>She's she's biologically related to me. Um. She she brought

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 1>them together. So I kept him for the weekend and

0:41:56.560 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the hotel room that Meek Mills and um Jessica Jackson

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 1>had booked me because I'm having issues with finding residents

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:06.720
<v Speaker 1>right now. But you know, I kept them for the weekend.

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>We just have fun. They made s'mores and you know,

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>they watch TV and you know, they were just having

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>fun and you know, they enjoyed each other's company. I

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the company. We took some pictures you know that

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna post later. You know, I just yeah, but

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I enrolled them in. You know, they're the first two

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 1>roll leads into a program that I I established called

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the Dynasty Kids, which is basically a youth empowerment and

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 1>youth leadership program, you know, really designed to talk at

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>risk youth at that age because one of my theories

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 1>is that you know, when you have these young children

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.760
<v Speaker 1>at this age who come from families where their mothers

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and fathers have to work or they're not president. You know,

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:45.799
<v Speaker 1>you need to have other adults that are around that

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>are you know that our president that can you know,

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>listen to them when they want to talk about their

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>legos and they want to talk about their little toys,

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>because you know, that's the way kids communicate. And when

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you show them that you know, you care about what

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 1>they care about, you know, they tend to open up

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>to you, and they're more receptive to you teaching them,

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, things like this and planning responsibility. So that

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 1>that was one of the first things that I did.

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Not I had appreciated doing that with him. Um, it

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 1>was just it's just one of the best moments man.

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:16.359
<v Speaker 1>So now taking care of some personal business, I opened

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 1>up a bank account for the first time ever in

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>my dot like you know, I applied for I'm going

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:26.319
<v Speaker 1>to go to college to pursue my bachelor's degree in

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>business banishment and also a pair of legal studies. Um,

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I have a job well as a fellowship with we

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Form Alliance. Have just signed a contract with them, so

0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:40.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm be doing that. I'll probably be starting that next week,

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>so you know, I'm and of course, like I just

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 1>told you, I'm about to go to a couple of

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>schools that that are designed for at risk. You can

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:49.320
<v Speaker 1>just walk in there, you know, just say hey, this

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>is who I am. You know, I'm here to do

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:53.839
<v Speaker 1>this type of work. If you guys need me, you know,

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you know on the youth that might need a little

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>extra attention. I'm here, beautiful man. Like you said, Man,

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you gave your word that she was coming home. Hit

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the ground, focus and you really want to do change,

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 1>and you've been doing that every day since you've been here.

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm proud to, you know, to be a part of

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>this reacclimation. Man. Tell him, Tell them you know, you

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>just came home from prison. You know, you don't really

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 1>have money or resources like this is his first adult

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:24.359
<v Speaker 1>experience as a freeman. You know, he left here as

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a child. He's now on his own as a freeman.

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have a lot of resources. You know. I

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 1>know you have a go fund me, I know you

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 1>have cat whatever you have. Let let the people know

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 1>that one of you know. Invest I don't I hate

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the word donated because donated some charity, but invest in

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>you because they believe and what it is that you

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 1>bringing to the table. So let them know how they

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:46.759
<v Speaker 1>can do that. Yeah, they can go to my go

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:50.359
<v Speaker 1>fund being they'll find a link in my I G bio. Um,

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 1>they can also I G is Dante let you free. Um.

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, so they can go there and they

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.399
<v Speaker 1>can look at the bio linker is down there. Um.

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 1>They also if they if they can, they can send

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 1>an investment through cash at at free Dante. My name

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 1>is spelled d O n t I e UM. I'm

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>also trying to get a fundraiser established on on Facebook

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>specifically for the Dynasty Kids program. So um, just waiting

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>for that to get approved. But um, yeah, man, that's

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:27.840
<v Speaker 1>anything that people can invest, especially you know in the

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 1>programs that I want to do for the youth, it

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 1>would be greatly greatly appreciate it. I'm in between residents

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:36.799
<v Speaker 1>right now, you know, I'm basically utilized and public transportation.

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>So I hope to be able to get a vehicle

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 1>so I can utilize that to do more outreach work

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 1>with the youth, because you know, if I can get around,

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I can get around them. But if I can't get

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 1>around them, you know, it's harder to get around them.

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>If you know, if I had to come from several

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>miles away and there's a crisis over here. You know,

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like my nephew would just called me earlier. You know,

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I just took again a little bit of money that

0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I did have. I got on my phone because he

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 1>likes to be on YouTube, were watching his little carstoons

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. So I got him a phone and he

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 1>need me, you know, to go over there and unlock it.

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what you need. You need, You need a

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:10.960
<v Speaker 1>whip so you could get around. But slow and steady,

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>slow and steady runs. Excuse me, slow and steady wins

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the race. So take your time and ease into it.

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>You said, cash app is free Dante Dante and it's

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 1>d O and T I E right and um and

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>then your Instagram pages at Dante Mitchell free all right,

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna make sure to put that information on

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the screen and also for our listeners to be able

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to get the info and send you a few dolls

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 1>because you need a couple of right, take care of Dante.

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for being with us today, and

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:52.320
<v Speaker 1>we hope you have like a real, real, real good start.

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you obviously you and my son will be

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 1>in touch every single day as you work through this process.

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:02.359
<v Speaker 1>So we won't leave aside, but just from me to you,

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I just want you to know that black man, you

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 1>are needed and we're happy to see you at home.

0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. I appreciate it. You gotta get

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:14.879
<v Speaker 1>this technology. I know that phone going crazy. You're figuring out.

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll hit you later too. For the past twenty years

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>of my life, I've been able to call our next

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 1>guest my big brother. UM. We have done some incredible

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 1>work together and also I just have been together personally

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>professionally for many years. And its one of the things

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>that frustrates me so much. What you know, we talked

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:49.800
<v Speaker 1>about it all the time is when people say, well,

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 1>y'all don't do anything about gun violence, and y'all don't

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 1>care about what goes on in the communities. All you

0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>care about is police, police, police, And you know, we

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>all ways explain to people the distinction between the two

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:08.720
<v Speaker 1>issues that they intersect and there are ways to work

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>on both. Um. But we do have people who do incredible,

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 1>like award winning work on addressing violence in our communities,

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 1>and this brother is one of those individuals. UH. For

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>many years, it was a trio of of of A. T.

0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell who we have with us today Erica Ford, our

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 1>sister who's been on this program before, and and me

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and the three of us moved around New York City

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 1>navigating the waters to open up opportunities and resources for

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:49.240
<v Speaker 1>gun violence, specifically, you know, people who are gun violence

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 1>interrupters and changing the way that New York even deals

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:56.360
<v Speaker 1>with the issue of gun violence. And so I'm happy

0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 1>to have my brother A. T. Mitchell of Man up

0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:04.960
<v Speaker 1>out of Brooklyn. But he is now an international violence

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 1>interrupter trainer. Um. And of course he is certainly our

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 1>friend and definitely your friend. Yes, we love you, man,

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just mad that took this long for us to

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 1>get you on the show. Man. Everything happens when it's

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:23.399
<v Speaker 1>supposed that happened. Man, yess y'all know me. I'm I'm

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:26.840
<v Speaker 1>a humble giant. I'm a quiet storm. I'm a team player.

0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:29.839
<v Speaker 1>I've just been here just rooting you two on and

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 1>sharing you on and congratulating you and and just keeping

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, the work going, like you said, make uh

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.399
<v Speaker 1>the work that goes on on the ground. So I'm

0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 1>here as a field general. I'm on boots on the

0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 1>ground kind of dude. Um. Like like now as you

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:47.359
<v Speaker 1>can you know, you can say that the respect has

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:49.839
<v Speaker 1>been made across the country, if not across the world.

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 1>So I'm really glad to be with y'all two right now.

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 1>So you are our change maker today. We have a

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>segment every week we try to make sure that we

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I like people who are doing you know, real work,

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and of course the the we we had a whole

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 1>series where we talked about gun violence and we tried

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to bring people on, whether it be women who have

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:14.239
<v Speaker 1>actually been impacted, um you know, and and some you know,

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe they actually are victims of gun violence and or

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:20.280
<v Speaker 1>doing some type of work. What we what we found

0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 1>is that for women generally, it is a woman who

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 1>has been impacted that becomes an advocate and is doing

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 1>the work of trying to organize for women victims specifically,

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 1>So that was important. We covered you know, of course

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 1>many of our brothers who have been shooters, who have

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 1>have have been victims of shootings, and then of course

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>people who are on the ground doing the work. And

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and that was an important series. I think we did

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 1>it for six weeks. Yeah, there was six episodes where

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 1>we focused on it. And usually people call you a

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 1>t because you are an expert on how to curb

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and reduce gun violence. And we know that one of

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:04.560
<v Speaker 1>our our biggest campaigns is dealing with getting this country

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:08.439
<v Speaker 1>to acknowledge violence as a public health crisis and not

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:13.319
<v Speaker 1>just a criminal activity. UM. But I think today it's

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 1>important from a change maker's perspective that we learn more

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>about you and your story why you're doing this work.

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And then this episode were focused on a young man

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 1>by the name of Donte Mitchell, who you now you know,

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 1>know his story. He was just released from prison after

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:34.240
<v Speaker 1>being in for twenty four years, could have been close

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to seventy years if you know, if he was not

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 1>given granted clemency, and we just heard about his process

0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:47.120
<v Speaker 1>and progress in terms of returning um to society. And

0:51:47.160 --> 0:51:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you deal with people who are returning all the time.

0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:52.399
<v Speaker 1>In fact, you are returning. You know. I didn't know that.

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Just so you know, after twenty years of being your friend,

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>your sister and loving you so much, it took my

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.200
<v Speaker 1>song to say to me, no, a t is good

0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>for this episode, not that we were trying to figure

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:07.320
<v Speaker 1>out which one. And he said, no, no no, no, he's returned.

0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I said, what do you mean, went to prison? I

0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:13.240
<v Speaker 1>had no idea you know me. You know it's crazy

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:17.240
<v Speaker 1>me because um, nobody doesn't really look at me, and

0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and they are all kind of astonished and their surprise

0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>because I know I never wear it on me like

0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>a billboard, like a neon sign. But all the things

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 1>that you just talked about, you know, you haven't been

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 1>in prison, you know, being uh, you know, a returning

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:36.640
<v Speaker 1>citizen from prison after sixteen years, um being you know

0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the person on the inside actually doing the work on

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the inside, and just trickled into the work doing. You

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 1>know when I got released and put those boots on

0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 1>the ground and I just hit the ground running. Um.

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:50.800
<v Speaker 1>So I come from a lot of that, being the shooter.

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, lived there, you know, been there, done that.

0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Haven't been shot myself, so I'm a victim of shot.

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I've been shot on. So you don't I don't know

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:10.359
<v Speaker 1>about it. You know that's the fact, you know, I'm not.

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't. I don't boast about it. It's

0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:15.880
<v Speaker 1>not something I'm proud of, but it's something that you know,

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can experience, I have experienced. I mean

0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I live in Brooklyn. I grew up in Brownsville in

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 1>East New York, right so I've been through wars on

0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:27.360
<v Speaker 1>on the street level, so respectfully, you know, I'm just

0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:29.839
<v Speaker 1>never proud of it. I mean i've been actually I've

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 1>been very disgusted by it. And that's why I got

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:34.160
<v Speaker 1>into this work. You know, I wanted to stop the

0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:36.960
<v Speaker 1>prison you know, pipeline. I wanted to you know, to

0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:40.439
<v Speaker 1>stop the influx of our young brothers and sisters going

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:43.439
<v Speaker 1>into prison because they were glorifying it when I went

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:46.879
<v Speaker 1>through that same experience. And I've just been, like I said,

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm more of a doer. I don't like talking about it.

0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I listened to some people as they boast about it,

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and I chuckle because I mean, you know, it's really

0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>not something you know, uh, that people can say that

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:00.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, that they're they're proud of. It's something that

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>we really want to make a difference in. So that's

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 1>what I've been doing. Yeah. So you know what we

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:10.720
<v Speaker 1>was inly, you know, me and you were mediating, uh,

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, a truce a few months ago, and you

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:17.439
<v Speaker 1>had told you had given me the story of how

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you started man up. Yes, about the young girl who

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:23.719
<v Speaker 1>shot whatever. So I want you to tell us that

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:26.520
<v Speaker 1>was the young brother. So that story was really touching

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:28.960
<v Speaker 1>for me. I want you to give us that story.

0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like you know, like you Mike, we we've

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:33.960
<v Speaker 1>been doing the work, man, and it's just like for me.

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Back in two thousand three, I was still doing my part,

0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:39.359
<v Speaker 1>and then I heard of a shooting in East New

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:41.840
<v Speaker 1>York of an eight year old little boy named DeShawn

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Hill who got shot actually in the middle of a

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:49.359
<v Speaker 1>drug beef over some weed. And it broke my heart, man.

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean I went to the crime scene,

0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I went to the hospital where Dave Shaun and his

0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:56.840
<v Speaker 1>family was and I was there when they actually pronounced

0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:59.920
<v Speaker 1>them dead. Um, and I was angry, man, I was

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:02.759
<v Speaker 1>ready to relapse in my mind. I felt that it

0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:06.360
<v Speaker 1>was you know, um something that really being an alleged

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 1>o G that was not cool, that the children in

0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood were not safe, that the women were not safe.

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:14.640
<v Speaker 1>And so I just been, you know, began to start

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:16.880
<v Speaker 1>going out there, step into the cats on the streets,

0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 1>me and a couple of other brothers just g checking them.

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:22.400
<v Speaker 1>And and when we was out there doing that, you know,

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, checking the temperature, and you know, we realized

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:28.280
<v Speaker 1>that they responded with the same things that we responded

0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 1>when I was their age, and that was you know,

0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:32.879
<v Speaker 1>they had no place to go. Nobody was giving them

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a job or a chance at life. You know, they

0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:37.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't you know, nobody was invested in them. And I

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:40.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of had to back up off of the tough

0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 1>guys stuff and realized that, you know, they're right, and

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:45.759
<v Speaker 1>so I had to be you know, said, you know,

0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:48.560
<v Speaker 1>if I create places for you to go, things for

0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you to do with you in exchange giving me some

0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:52.960
<v Speaker 1>peace on this block. And that's how man of being

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:55.279
<v Speaker 1>started and just thought it out just like that man,

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:58.879
<v Speaker 1>and it morped into something that was you know now

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:02.359
<v Speaker 1>it was a volunteer you know, led organizational effort from

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:06.799
<v Speaker 1>a basement location into a multimillion dollar you know, I

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 1>have forty maybe fifty employees today because of you know,

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:12.279
<v Speaker 1>the blessings of all the work that we've been doing.

0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:14.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's the beginning of man, I think. And

0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you all have to You have two offices, not make

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:23.000
<v Speaker 1>your brother got nine officers? Now no, no, well wait

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:27.279
<v Speaker 1>a minute, do you have nine? You have nine sites? Right?

0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Have nine sites where people are working? No, I know

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:32.720
<v Speaker 1>that part. You have nine sites where people are working.

0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 1>But I was just thinking about the offices where the

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 1>manage man happens. Yeah, so's it's two different locations or

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 1>or all nine there's you know, are all nine of

0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:51.800
<v Speaker 1>your offices fully staffed? Yes? Wow, that staff That's a

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:55.640
<v Speaker 1>blessing that I said, to be able to be able

0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 1>to provide employment wile community. For these are people who

0:56:59.160 --> 0:57:01.560
<v Speaker 1>come from the neighbor hood, people mostly who have been

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 1>there and done that themselves. Um, I'm blessed to be

0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 1>in a position to to have a team of people

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:10.440
<v Speaker 1>around me like that that now go back into the

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:14.040
<v Speaker 1>same neighborhoods that they come from and actually you know,

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 1>do the change making that you that you know that

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:18.560
<v Speaker 1>we often want to see done on a daily basis.

0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 1>The community Center. I have a beautiful two story community

0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:28.480
<v Speaker 1>center's eleven point five million dollars UM. It's equipped with

0:57:28.840 --> 0:57:34.880
<v Speaker 1>UH college regulated size gymnasium, a multimedia center, DAN studios.

0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's named after Prince Joshua Avido, who was

0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:42.600
<v Speaker 1>a six year old victim of violence, studio UM. And

0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 1>so you know, whatever, you know, whatever we do, we

0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 1>always try to turn the pain into purpose, right. We

0:57:48.120 --> 0:57:50.800
<v Speaker 1>often time like to make sure that they're the memories

0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of these young um angels are never forgotten. So you

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:57.880
<v Speaker 1>have the beautiful community center that we operate is dope.

0:57:58.680 --> 0:58:01.400
<v Speaker 1>So I just want to ask one more question. So

0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I because I'm I don't know, I don't clearly I

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know you. It's nice to meet you a TV

0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:10.400
<v Speaker 1>after twenty years, we're meeting for the first time today,

0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:12.560
<v Speaker 1>But it is a true testament to who you are.

0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:15.720
<v Speaker 1>In fact, it doesn't surprise me at all that I'm

0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:18.240
<v Speaker 1>just learning these things because I know that you are

0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 1>a quiet storm that does not like to talk much.

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:24.080
<v Speaker 1>You just like to do things and get things done.

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's also a testament to how hard

0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:31.720
<v Speaker 1>we have worked. And I often don't speak of myself

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:34.840
<v Speaker 1>in that way, right because you know, we we have

0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 1>insecurities around talking about yourself. But from the day we

0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:45.400
<v Speaker 1>met until now, we've done nothing but work hard and blood,

0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:47.520
<v Speaker 1>sweat and tears. I mean, we had a little turn

0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:49.440
<v Speaker 1>up here and there in the midst of it all,

0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:53.520
<v Speaker 1>but really it's been focused on work, and we really

0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 1>haven't had an opportunity to sit and talk through all

0:58:57.560 --> 0:59:01.560
<v Speaker 1>of our lives, changes and issue us and and college.

0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:04.880
<v Speaker 1>And you are not on social media, so you probably

0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:08.760
<v Speaker 1>know more about my ship from social media than I

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:11.520
<v Speaker 1>know about yours, because you're, you know, really on on

0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:14.200
<v Speaker 1>on social media. So it's it's really it's really a

0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:17.360
<v Speaker 1>true testament to who you are. Um I want to

0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:20.480
<v Speaker 1>just kind of go back to that time because I

0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't know sixty years and you say it's nothing to

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:26.960
<v Speaker 1>be proud of. When you were in prison, did you

0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:29.520
<v Speaker 1>make the decision that I've got to make these changes

0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 1>or did it did it happen once you got out? No, definitely,

0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 1>it was a decision that I made when I realized

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:38.480
<v Speaker 1>that I have to like most of us growing up

0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:41.640
<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhoods, I looked actually forward to go into jail.

0:59:42.400 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Um So, I did you know the things that I'm

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:47.480
<v Speaker 1>not proud of. I happened to also been printing a

0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:50.960
<v Speaker 1>sentence to a crime I didn't commit. So for me,

0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I had to go in um and and and and

0:59:54.000 --> 0:59:58.280
<v Speaker 1>serve time and realize that when I went through that experience,

0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:02.240
<v Speaker 1>especially going up north, my already know um Man, that

1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:05.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't something that would just reminded me of of slavery.

1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:08.880
<v Speaker 1>And so I said, no, this was not a place

1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:12.040
<v Speaker 1>where I wanted to be or to be a regular

1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:14.440
<v Speaker 1>place for me. So the same way I worked my

1:00:14.480 --> 1:00:17.080
<v Speaker 1>way into prison, had to work my way out of prison.

1:00:18.000 --> 1:00:20.280
<v Speaker 1>And so that's when I started getting busy. I started

1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:24.160
<v Speaker 1>realizing that, you know that mama hadn't raised no food

1:00:24.560 --> 1:00:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and and and when I knew how to read, I

1:00:26.280 --> 1:00:30.080
<v Speaker 1>knew how to write, but my fellow brothers inside prison didn't.

1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:33.280
<v Speaker 1>And so I just started aiding them, helping them. Um.

1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:36.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, we all canceled each other through um and eventually,

1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I went and got my g D, went

1:00:38.400 --> 1:00:40.920
<v Speaker 1>back to college while in prison, and then you know,

1:00:40.960 --> 1:00:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I started helping other brothers get there, you know, lives together,

1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, and try to help them, you know, with

1:00:45.720 --> 1:00:48.920
<v Speaker 1>their with their needs. And then they eventually opened up

1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the doors for me. I said, if they opened up

1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:53.960
<v Speaker 1>these doors, I would never return. And so it's ironic

1:00:54.040 --> 1:00:57.960
<v Speaker 1>that two twenty one marks thirty years ago when I

1:00:58.480 --> 1:01:01.800
<v Speaker 1>was released in prison in ninth ninety one. So yeah,

1:01:01.880 --> 1:01:05.320
<v Speaker 1>so that's just been my my wark. Well listen, man,

1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you you're you know, you're a major inspiration to me. Man,

1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you somebody that I look up to. You know that

1:01:11.960 --> 1:01:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I see a lot of myself and like it's not

1:01:14.600 --> 1:01:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that I consider real o g

1:01:16.880 --> 1:01:19.280
<v Speaker 1>s and you know, carry themself a certain way. In

1:01:19.280 --> 1:01:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the way that you carry yourself is indicative of how

1:01:22.560 --> 1:01:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to be seen, you know, as as I

1:01:24.760 --> 1:01:27.800
<v Speaker 1>mature into it, I want to still be respected amongst

1:01:27.880 --> 1:01:31.240
<v Speaker 1>our youth and amongst our culture, and still maintain the

1:01:31.320 --> 1:01:35.000
<v Speaker 1>stature of a grown adult man and with wisdom and honor.

1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:38.040
<v Speaker 1>You know. So I I just I always salute you, brother.

1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:41.400
<v Speaker 1>The way where you come from, where you continue to grow,

1:01:41.680 --> 1:01:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the way you continue to motivate us younger brothers who

1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:47.040
<v Speaker 1>are trying to get to where you are, is just phenomenal, man.

1:01:47.080 --> 1:01:49.720
<v Speaker 1>And it's just a testament of what it is that

1:01:49.800 --> 1:01:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I say. A lot of people they don't have faith

1:01:52.640 --> 1:01:56.200
<v Speaker 1>in people who are returning citizens. They believe that all

1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:59.120
<v Speaker 1>of us are doomed to failure. You just a criminal.

1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:02.160
<v Speaker 1>They label you the things. And it's people like yourself

1:02:02.480 --> 1:02:05.320
<v Speaker 1>who showed that that's not real. You know, to me,

1:02:05.440 --> 1:02:08.439
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know that you had come from prison. Still

1:02:08.520 --> 1:02:11.400
<v Speaker 1>try and find out what he went I'm saying, I'm

1:02:11.480 --> 1:02:13.680
<v Speaker 1>still I'm not I'm not ashamed, sister. I mean, I

1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:17.080
<v Speaker 1>went to prison for for for for for manslaughter, you know,

1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I was I was. I was charged with murder. Um,

1:02:20.320 --> 1:02:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I went to trial and thankfully, you know, they found

1:02:22.520 --> 1:02:25.360
<v Speaker 1>me not guilty of that, and then I was unfortunately

1:02:25.400 --> 1:02:29.440
<v Speaker 1>found guilty of manslaughter. So again, yeah, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>ironic because like you're saying, mice man, I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I I'd like my sister knows to Meka knows like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm there, just the whole y'all, damn you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure that everything that the work that we

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<v Speaker 1>all are doing, the work that you're doing on your

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<v Speaker 1>level vice versa. What we're doing on our level is

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<v Speaker 1>real work. It's hard work. It's not for everybody. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a lot of people who get in the

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<v Speaker 1>way because we make it look good, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, they don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>clue as the relage to the hardships that come with this,

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<v Speaker 1>the challenges, the testing, the tests that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>always pass. But again, I'm not that brother that goes

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I don't have to boast about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>like to let our work speak for us. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is our our journey. We we all earned

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<v Speaker 1>our rights in this seat, and you deserve the same

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<v Speaker 1>accolade mice because of how you hold us down on

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<v Speaker 1>your level. I'm extremely um, I'm motivated by you, brother, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm proud of you as well, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're being very consistent. You could have went to Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>and stayed you know, on on on on on that note,

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<v Speaker 1>but you chose to keep it, you know, your boots

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground. So I definitely respect you highly. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna keep you much longer. But I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, man, we want to give you your flowers

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<v Speaker 1>while you're here and I can smell it. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>and the last time, man, this is this is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>honor to have you here. You wanted the people I

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<v Speaker 1>call evolutionary man. You know the way that you evolved

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<v Speaker 1>and continue to grow and and show that spirit, that

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<v Speaker 1>spirit of our ancestors and you know the brothers who

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<v Speaker 1>came before us that that have paved the way. So

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<v Speaker 1>continue to do what you're doing. Well, I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble because I have one and a half more question.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, because we're talking about returning citizens on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've talked about your um process of returning. But

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<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of staff members who are also returning,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just wanted to hear more about that

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<v Speaker 1>work and how in our model that we designed together,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it came from Erica Ford's brain. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to make sure we always give her that credit.

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<v Speaker 1>But the model that had already started and that we've

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<v Speaker 1>worked to develop within New York State and New York

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<v Speaker 1>City particularly, is to bring people home, get them home,

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<v Speaker 1>and put them to work so that they can be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the healing process within our community and

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<v Speaker 1>helping to reduce violence. So talk about why that was

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<v Speaker 1>important to you and and what and what what does

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<v Speaker 1>that look like for someone like you to do that

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<v Speaker 1>work every day? Wow? So for for me, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks it looks very like empowering because so many

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<v Speaker 1>brothers and sisters, UM, that are looking forward to coming home.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people don't know. Ninety nine point nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent of people that are released from prison, UM, they

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<v Speaker 1>come home with the right, you know, thing to do

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<v Speaker 1>in mind. They really want to do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately the things that that are awaiting them where

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<v Speaker 1>they go back into the neighborhoods from which they come from, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>the conditions haven't changed. So they are Unfortunately, they're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like moved back into some of their old lifestyles

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<v Speaker 1>and resort to certain things, and that's why the recentivism

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<v Speaker 1>rate is so high. But even just the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we call ourselves returning citizens today is in the testament

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<v Speaker 1>of our work. We change the narrative, change the language.

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<v Speaker 1>We used to be looked at as X cons and

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<v Speaker 1>X defenders, and we you know, work alongside so many

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<v Speaker 1>other greats to change that. No, we are returning citizens.

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<v Speaker 1>When we return back into our communities, we receive our

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<v Speaker 1>citizenship they want, and we need to understand what does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean? Um, And so what I love about the

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<v Speaker 1>work that we're doing now is that we're in position

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<v Speaker 1>to receive them to come home. They're not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stigmatized the stereotype in the way that we once looked

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<v Speaker 1>at people coming home from prison, and we looked at

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the value that we bring to our neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 1>We we we come from these neighborhoods, These are our communities.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when we go back into our neighborhoods, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to understand that our debt is still not paid.

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<v Speaker 1>We still have to make sure that we a man

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<v Speaker 1>make amends in the neighborhoods where we messed up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we might have paid our debt to the a k. A. Society,

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<v Speaker 1>But back in Harlem and the Bronx and Brooklyn where

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<v Speaker 1>the crime is committed, we still got work to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And so but this is what we do now. Just

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<v Speaker 1>we make sure that people come home, they get involved

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<v Speaker 1>in in just the ground, you know, the world that's

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<v Speaker 1>happening on the ground, helping us media in so many

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<v Speaker 1>of these conflicts with their influence. I mean today, like now,

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<v Speaker 1>people like us. You know, we have now value. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have some weight in the game and some steak

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<v Speaker 1>in the game. So now we use that to our advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm just really proud to be a former

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<v Speaker 1>and consibrated professional, you know, and today returning citizen with

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<v Speaker 1>great pride. Thank you so much by the A. T.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell of man, you know, a man of my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you so much. I love you more yo,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you as well. I love y'all both. Y'll keep

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<v Speaker 1>up the great work. I'm here anytime. Thank god, you man.

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<v Speaker 1>We got work to do. Boycott Black Murder baby, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>without questions, it's on your page. Wow, such a legend

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<v Speaker 1>and people don't know and see you don't even But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is, like he said, we don't. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to go and for that because it's not something

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<v Speaker 1>that he's proud of, you know. And I tell people

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<v Speaker 1>that all time glorified in prison is not something that

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<v Speaker 1>we're proud of. The only thing that we say about prison,

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<v Speaker 1>real men, is that we survived it. Because a lot

1:08:07.600 --> 1:08:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of people don't survive. They don't come home fully with

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<v Speaker 1>their faculties, or they don't even make it home. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you're able to go through sixteen years unscathed,

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't got no stabs, you didn't tell on nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't done nothing foul, and your resume is still attack,

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<v Speaker 1>your respect and credibility is still intact, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>come back to the communities and not only just live

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<v Speaker 1>amongst but be able to change, be able to take

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<v Speaker 1>guns and have enough respect to where you can stop

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<v Speaker 1>violence and employ people and continue to do that work. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a blessing. That's all it is for us,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, who are returning citizens to want to come

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<v Speaker 1>back and give back. Like he said, the debt is

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<v Speaker 1>not paid just because you got out of jail, your

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<v Speaker 1>debt is not paid. You have, especially if you've caused

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<v Speaker 1>harm in those communities, if you've been a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the problem, then when you come back, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>rehabilitation for you is becoming part of the solution. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's just he said, you have to make

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<v Speaker 1>amends with the communities that you harm. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was that was the most powerful thing that I heard.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I just got to learn so much

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<v Speaker 1>about my friend, and you know, and I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>if we sat and talked, we all learned a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about one another. Because life is going and moving so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the right time and the right moment for

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<v Speaker 1>a t and his story to be uplifted because what

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<v Speaker 1>he has been able to create, right And I have

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<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time in two of his offices,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I said that. But you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>has expanded so much and been able to put these

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<v Speaker 1>offices in place where there are people where high percentage

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<v Speaker 1>of the individuals are people who came home and they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing great work to reduce violence in their neighborhood. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's Those are the types of stories we have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell because people want to know what do we

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<v Speaker 1>do A t. Mitchell is an example what to do

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<v Speaker 1>in your community. That's right, and okay, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>like it. My I don't get it today, you know

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was with our production team. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>looking through some things, and I had a different I

1:10:18.400 --> 1:10:20.880
<v Speaker 1>don't get it. But this is really weird. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is somebody that like, like, shout out to mc ross,

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<v Speaker 1>me and ric Ross school got music together. Somebody I

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<v Speaker 1>respect his entrepreneurs you know ability, his music ability. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get how you got a hundred cards and

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<v Speaker 1>you just got a license, Linse. It's still what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say, Like, brothers, we got to do better,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we got to do better. At forty five, he

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't need a need a life. You need a

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<v Speaker 1>license because you're driving. It's not like he was. If

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't driving, then it would make sense to me

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<v Speaker 1>drives his car. But but now and for the and

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<v Speaker 1>and and let's give him around of the clause at

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<v Speaker 1>some point. But brothers, we gotta do better. You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I was having this conversation with my son the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yo, he just got his girl a car

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<v Speaker 1>and this and that and I'm like, you got your license.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, you do need as a man, there

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<v Speaker 1>has to be a level of responsibility that we take

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<v Speaker 1>for ourselves. We gotta get our license, we gotta get out,

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<v Speaker 1>no way, our social Security card is. We gotta get

1:11:30.600 --> 1:11:33.000
<v Speaker 1>our password. We gotta get our own bakery. Like. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta establish some level of maturity, you know. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that is something that you know, I've learned over

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<v Speaker 1>over time. You know, as as we grow, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to take those responsibilities early Mama, Mama messed it up

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<v Speaker 1>because we take care of everything. But it's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with that. But but I'm just saying, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>realize that to be a real member of society, a

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<v Speaker 1>grown up, right, you gotta pay some bills. You gotta

1:12:02.640 --> 1:12:04.800
<v Speaker 1>put a couple of bills in your name where you go,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see the transition. You gotta have your your license,

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<v Speaker 1>your passport. You gotta have all the grown up things. Brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing. We're doing bad bunch. Oh of course he do.

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<v Speaker 1>He got to move around. But you know, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>your license. Man, shout out to Rick ross Man. But

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<v Speaker 1>we we gotta stop waiting at forty five to get

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<v Speaker 1>a driver's license. But we got a hundred cards man,

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<v Speaker 1>So that some people it's like we you know what though,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get the prices different, but we have a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pairs of shoes. He got a hundred cards. That's

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<v Speaker 1>his thing in his in his category. Yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>I have over a hundred. Don't even You shouldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a hundred pairs of shoes because that's not

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<v Speaker 1>even close to what you hadds. So with that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>another Dope episode, Shout out to Dante, shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>a t I'm getting ready to go cash now go

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<v Speaker 1>this page. Dante met you free, send him to money man.

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<v Speaker 1>He got a long road ahead of him. After twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four years being incarcerated, he is finally free as an adult.

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<v Speaker 1>This is first time being free as an adult. Just

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that being in jail since she was seventeen, spending

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<v Speaker 1>a majority of your life in prison, twenty four years

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<v Speaker 1>of your forty three years you was in prison. Wow, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that. It's just like I couldn't even never

1:13:38.800 --> 1:13:42.200
<v Speaker 1>thought get out, and he never thought. But he he

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<v Speaker 1>told me that, you know, three years ago that he

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<v Speaker 1>came to a conclusion that he was gonna fight for

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<v Speaker 1>his freedom and every day from there we need help.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta make sure I'm sending it to you. Just

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<v Speaker 1>go to this instagment page. You should be up there.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said that he never gave up. But those

1:14:02.720 --> 1:14:04.840
<v Speaker 1>three years, the last final three years, he said I

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<v Speaker 1>need to come home, and he he spoke his freedom

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<v Speaker 1>into exist. It is manifesting your destiny, man, So shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to him. Shout out to a T another brother. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even know what he see. The thing is

1:14:16.880 --> 1:14:18.639
<v Speaker 1>about us, black man. We don't look like what we've

1:14:18.640 --> 1:14:24.360
<v Speaker 1>been through the entire race. And that's what it is. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>So shout out to a T one of my big brothers. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't call a lot of people big brothers. I

1:14:29.360 --> 1:14:31.400
<v Speaker 1>don't call a lot of people for advice. I don't

1:14:31.600 --> 1:14:34.160
<v Speaker 1>respect the leadership of a lot of people because a

1:14:34.160 --> 1:14:35.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are not really fit to lead. They

1:14:35.920 --> 1:14:38.760
<v Speaker 1>get these people these old g titles that have never

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<v Speaker 1>gained them, you know. But he is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>brothers that I feel really has hearned that title. So

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to him and another dope Episode number one

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<v Speaker 1>tell us you hate us, telling you, hey, you can

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<v Speaker 1>hate me. Man. They might be able to hate you,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't got to time. You can tell me

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<v Speaker 1>because I'll be in the wild. Tell me why, because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it ain't all you know, bad reasons that you

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<v Speaker 1>hate me. You might really have a legitimate I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>heard one yet, but you might actually have a legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>reason they hate me. So let us know. If you

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<v Speaker 1>send some questions. We're here, man, and we ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>always be right to me. Is not gonna always be wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but most of the time she will be because she

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<v Speaker 1>disagrees with me, you know. So she's gonna be wrong

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<v Speaker 1>multi time. But we will both always and I mean always, always,

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