WEBVTT - Andy Buckley 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:04.600 We've all felt left out, and for people who moved 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.160 to this country, that feeling lasts more than a moment. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.000 We can change that. Learn how it Belonging begins with 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.720 us dot Org, brought to you by the AD Council. 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:19.840 Hey Leeth, the listeners take here. Last season on Lethal Lit, 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:24.599 you might remember I came to Hollow Falls on a mission. Well, 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.840 I'm finding out that in this town, the dead don't 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:33.159 keep their secrets for long, and the bodies keep piling up. 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.800 The second season if Lethal Lit is available now on 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.440 the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:47.559 listen to your favorite shows. Did you know that on 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.440 the day Doctor King was shot, the all black security 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:54.240 detail normally assigned to him was called off. They're the 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.560 ones who would not allow him to stay at any 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.920 hotel with balconies. But did you ever asked what this 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:08.880 was all about? This is the MLK tapes. The first 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:12.399 episodes are available now. Listen on the I Heart Radio app, 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:22.319 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Andy 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:32.920 Buckley and I've played David Wallace on the Office. Hello everybody, 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:38.880 and welcome back to another exciting episode of the Office. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.200 Deep Dive I am your host, Brian Baumgartner, and this 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.640 week we're coming at you with somebody that you have 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.120 all been waiting to hear from. I cannot wait to 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:54.000 get started. Today's guest is a man who means business, 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.880 and I mean he really means business. Not only was 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:03.320 he the fo of dunder Mifflin, which was arguably the 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.960 greatest and most successful paper company, maybe even any company 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:11.280 of all time, but as a real human person, he 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:15.919 was moonlighting as a stockbroker for Merrill Lynch the entire 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.799 run of the show. Yep, you guessed it. The genius 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:25.760 who brought Suck It into our lives Andy Buckley, who 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.280 also happens to be one of the treasured members of 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:34.079 our office fantasy football team, who last week lost by 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:39.200 one point to MOI because I had Austin Ekeler thanks 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:44.200 to Rain Wilson, who dominated on Monday Night. So Andy 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:48.799 suck It now. Andy came onto the show a little 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.800 bit later. In fact, he referred to himself as a 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.480 distant cousin of the cast for the first several seasons 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:59.080 he was on board, but he really grew to have 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.880 a special place in our hearts and the hearts of 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:07.160 the people back in Scranton, Pennsylvania. To this day, if 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.160 you run into Andy on the street, you might come 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:16.120 away with a special office themed surprise. Hint, hint. Andy 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.960 has gone on to do so many big things, from 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.600 Jurassic World to Shameless and Veep, but he credits it 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:28.680 all to his time on the office. So from the 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:33.760 mean streets of Finance to the not so mean streets 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:38.560 of Scranton, get ready to hear from the boss of 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:46.400 the world's best boss, the master of dead Pan, Andy Buckley. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:56.200 Bubble and I love it, Bubble and squeak, bubble and 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:13.040 quaker cooking every month, lift over, not beople. This is 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.800 how are you great? Good to see you, Good to 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.520 see you. You know, I wore my finest there it is, 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:23.000 you know under Mifflin. I'm not I'm not playing around. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.360 You're not playing I'm the owner of this company. You 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:32.479 you are the last. Oh sit there, Yes, I'll tell 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.640 you half the fun I have to put them on. 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:36.839 Oh my god. Yeah. This is how people get in trouble. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.960 They they think it's you know, and then they say 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:43.360 some thing they shouldn't say, and then their career is over. Well, 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:50.320 that's what I'm trying to make happen for you. Hey, Alex, Alex, Hello, 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.400 sir Alex, I haven't seen your coat today. It's very 0:04:53.440 --> 0:05:00.120 are you cold? Well? That's how Brian likes it. It's 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:04.760 how Audrey Hepburn liked it. Catherine Hippern all the headburns. 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:10.279 Catherin Hippern like this, Uh yeah is that? Does that 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:18.279 feel good? See? There you go? There would be no. 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.560 Here's the thing. Oh, I've gotten people to say way 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.239 worse than I'm sure. Yeah, how are you? I'm great? 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.560 Haven't five got picked up? Which is good? You got 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.480 a job? Baby? There you go? Where is that film 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:39.200 across the pond? As they say in London like I'll 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.560 move to I'll be in London for five months. Wow. 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:47.200 And Gabe is on it a ka Zach Woods, UM's great. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.760 Can we swear? Yeah? We can say whatever we want. 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.560 It's so funny. I took a couple of notes of 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:56.920 like funny things. But it's then it reminds me of 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.960 the It was one of the last episodes. It was 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.719 the opening teaser. I come in and I'm like, really 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:07.320 pissed at Jon Favreau directed, I'm really pissed at ed 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.839 because you were on a fucking boat for three months. 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:15.640 We did it three, four or five times. Everybody says great, fine, 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:20.360 good um, and I said more more, and so like 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.839 we did it like three or four more times. I'm 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.040 saying this, motherfuck are you fucking like I was Tony 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.400 Soprano or something like that, and uh, and you know, 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:33.000 ultimately Greg said, now we we you can't like we can't. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.559 You know, you're it doesn't make sense. It doesn't match 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.640 what like the character was. But it was like Kate Flair, 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.040 remember the time she walked and she said, what the 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:42.760 hell was going on? Because like they walk in and 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.479 they just they don't know what's good. They just hear 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:53.720 this exprest it's just right, oh my god. Um, so 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:58.040 you let's let's rewind. Yeah, before you started on the office, 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.960 that was our warm up. What were you doing? I 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.400 was born in Boston. No, so you were You were 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.839 born in Marblehead, Massachusetts. Yeah, at the Salem Hospital. But 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.240 I'm from Marblehead, Massachusetts. So many of us have from 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:15.000 the marble Head, the Massachusetts area, the cat Pack, the 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:19.720 smack Pack, and now yes, I I went to college, 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.600 moved to New York, studied acting, moved to l a 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:27.640 meandered around, didn't like set the world on fire. Not 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.520 only did I do a Melrose Place, I did a 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.200 Caroline in the City, so there you go. Check it out. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:36.120 I did a Silk Stockings. I was voted. I was 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.080 voted the worst acting in the history of silk Stockings. 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:44.360 So like, that's that's pretty that's me coming. I was horrible. 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:53.000 Was you did actually have the razzies for? But god, 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.160 I was terrible? But yeah, no, then I I actually 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.360 like packed in acting and started working to Mary Lynch. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.920 I was a stockbroker. What so you stopped acting? Well, 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.640 it's not like I was doing much of it, but 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:05.840 I officially said all right, said I gotta get a 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.200 come up with a job. Or my wife, who was 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.960 my girlfriend at the time, said, Buckley, come up with 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:15.160 the job. This is ridiculous, your your life is ridiculous. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:19.880 So it was, you know, I stumbled into Merrill Lynch 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.680 and there was an actor I knew who worked there, 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.520 and he said, hey, come on interview, and uh and 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.560 you know they they hired me. They were kind enough 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.160 to hire me. I'm pleasant. Wad you an experience? I 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.720 had no experience, but yeah, I'm reasonably reasonably smart, and I, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.200 you know, and I'm seemingly trustworthy, and you know, I 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.880 was a great golfer, you know, like just very important. 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:42.959 They I think they thought, Okay, this guy'll be able 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:44.839 to bring in some clients. So that was it. No, 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.520 So I was I was there. I was doing that, 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.160 and I actually I loved it. I mean I I 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.920 stayed at Merrill Lynch in Century City is where the 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.160 office was um throughout the whole run of the show. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.120 The last season is when I finally left, like halfway 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.160 through the very last season. So that's what I was doing. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.120 In four and a half years into that, I had 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:07.200 run into Alison Jones. She'd be my patron saint. She's 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.680 completely changed my life for the good, for the for 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.480 the great. And uh, I ran into at the local 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.800 farmers market where we're in the living the same neighborhood. 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.760 What are you doing, I got I'm a stockbroker, like 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:23.360 I'm I'm married, I got a kid. Now apparently I've 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.280 grown up. And she uh said, all right, we'll give 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.320 me your card just in case something comes up. Who knows, 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.360 you know, I said, okay. And my wife is an 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.360 acting coach and has become like a pretty soft after 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.080 I can coach. But she had started her class and 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.559 I was going to her class. So I had started 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.600 to like fall back in love with acting and for 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.880 the right reasons and really was loving doing it. And 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.760 it was, you know, small class. So then Alison calls 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.199 me five months after I saw her on the thing 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.960 or four and a half months something like that, and says, Okay, Buckley, 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.560 you should. I can't believe I find your card, but 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.199 I'm glad I did. You should come in. I think 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.680 you're the right guy. He's the CFO. Do you watch 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:04.120 the office like yeah, yeah, Kevin Molans incredible. Um and uh. 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.720 And so I go in and I sit there and 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.520 I'm waiting in the in the room like I duck 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.480 over from my office, you know, like Century City. Okay, 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.880 so wait, wait what You're at Merrill Lynch and you're 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.800 taking acting classes from your wife just because she had 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:22.240 started Nancy Banks, great Nancy Banks. Yeah, she had like 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.440 seven people in her class. I'm like, oh, I'll be 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.240 the eighth. It will be an even number of scenes. 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.760 It's funny, like the two guys in the class, we're 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.520 me and Channing Tatum and so no, nobody, of course 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:39.600 wanted to do scenes with me the teacher's husband, who's 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:44.480 the who's the hot you know? Um, yeah, she's been, 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:48.440 she've been. She's been working with him since before like 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.400 anybody knew him. And he's as lovely as as can be. 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.079 But yes, so I'm doing that. So Allison calls you 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.760 and says, come in. But you're doing that because you 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.680 you are just liking it. You're falling in love with 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.120 act exactly. Yeah, which was I mean, that's what I 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.280 wanted to do from the time I saw my first 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.640 James Dean movie when I was fifteen or whatever and 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:10.800 thought I'd be you know, the brooding heartthrobb or whatever, 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:16.000 brooding confused teenage kids. And and I'm just a brooding, 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.840 confused adult, uh you know, fifty year old man and 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.040 uh but no, so so I go. But it was funny. 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.160 I'm sitting in the waiting room and then all the 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.160 actor Why am I look at all these guys? These 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.600 are I mean, you know? And then and then chip 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:35.440 Eston is there also auditioning, Like gosh, there's there's Chip 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:37.240 like and he's the guy for the folks at home 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.600 and played Josh Porter. And in my head, I think 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.360 they're gonna here him like what am I doing here? 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.280 This is ridiculous, Like he's great, And then to make 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:48.800 matters worse for the negative actor had Rain pops his 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.439 head into the waiting room and he and Chip are buddies, 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.200 and he says, hey, good, you're here. Great. Look I 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:58.200 also told them you should read for this other part. Luckily, 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.960 because he's gonna do I don't know, a bunch of episodes, 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.440 just an existed one off. So then Rain says this 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.760 in front of you. Well he pulled him aside. I 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.719 just happened to be sitting close and I don't think 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.040 everybody else started. I just like it wasn't like he 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:17.400 broadcasting across the room. But uh like okay. So then 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.760 I go in and it's Allison and Michael Shure and 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:24.960 the old Mikey can tremendous. And I do the scene, 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.080 do the second scene, feel good about it. And Michael's like, 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.840 now wait, now, you're you're like a financial guy, right, 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.839 You're that's what you're doing. Yeah, you know a Meryl 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.200 Yeah that's what I'm and I'm a Marylynch guy. And 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.800 he's like okay, okay, good. And then the next day 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.680 Alison calls me and says a, right, they're gonna hire 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.520 you Buckley, They're gonna give you a glasses, maybe gray 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.720 your hair a little bit. And that was it, and 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:50.040 it was like it was awesome. Wow. Yeah at that point, 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:51.880 did you you thought it was just one episode? I 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:53.760 thought it was one episode. I mean it was so 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.640 fun and Greg directed that episode and um, and it 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.880 was so great that it was I just loved I mean, 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:02.880 I remember the first scene that we did was the 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.720 conference room scene, and I would do it and then 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.680 he would come up and he would say okay, and 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.560 he would just like whisper in your try you know, 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.760 try it whatever the suggestion was. And it was awesome, 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.400 and that'll be fun. Maybe I'll get to do like, 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.440 you know, one a year or something like that. And 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.120 then I really started to think, oh man, I may 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.240 be on this a fair amount. After we hired Ryan 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:28.280 to work in corporate. So to answer your question I 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:33.400 had I was a stockbroke. Well, it's it's interesting to 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.440 me because it's the same thing with Phillis. Like Phillis 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:41.960 was a casting associate, right who just read naturally with 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.880 the people who were involved. And and yeah, so it's 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.640 interesting that Mike asked you those questions. Yeah, yeah, And 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.080 it was funny because the guy who ran my office 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.920 at the time, it was just a lovely guy. Like 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.280 he wasn't some corporate you know asshole that you sort 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.000 of the cliche of what a corporate guy. He was 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.440 just like a great guy. Um, Dick Valentine if you're 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.840 listening for still Buddies. But it was like, and Dick's 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.960 a good guys didn't have to be like some you 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.840 know jerk. You're a good guy. Why not. So in 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:20.640 that first episode it was just Stephen Milaura, right, well, 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.120 that was the second scene. The first scene it was 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:28.440 Steve Malaura and then Chip was in that Josh Porter 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:32.280 and the guy that was like, well maybe I should 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.680 have just slept with jan too. I'd be fine, right right, right, 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.640 right right. Fun But but in terms of the you know, 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.040 the original sort of corecast with Steve, yeah, Stephen Milaura, 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.720 I mean at this point it was occurring to me 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.720 when I was looking at meeting with you today. By 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.120 the time you came on the show, Steve was a 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.640 movie star. Yeah, like you know when we started, he 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.880 wasn't had you seen fourty year old Virgin? Yeah, yeah, 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:58.800 I'd seen that I'd seen the show and like, oh 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.440 my crap, you know, and uh and I mean, yeah, 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.520 he couldn't have been more every and everyone couldn't have 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.000 been more welcoming. And he's such a pro and he's 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.600 just always coming up with funny or different ways to 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.200 do it, and which is really I guess that's a 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.680 Second City thing. I've maybe it's a Steve thing too, 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.040 but it's a something they try to do in Second City. 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.640 You'd never do the same thing in a row or 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.360 you know, twice, right, right right. I mean, you certainly 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.200 had scenes with other people, but so much of your 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.880 interaction was with Michael Scott, and you guys played so 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:37.760 well together. How was it for you playing with him? 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:42.200 Oh my god, it's spectacular. I would of course constantly laugh. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.720 I mean, he would just make me laugh. If we 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.360 did eight takes, four of them, I would have burst 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.040 out laughing. Oh, it was hard for It was hard 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:54.040 for anybody, for sure. Did you when you come on, 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.720 say for the first time, when you entered the bullpen 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.720 at under Mefflin for the first time, or with working 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.520 with Steve or whatever, did that make you nervous? Of course? Yeah. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.000 The first day I was nervous as as heck um, 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.480 and then that thing you sort of settled back into Okay, 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.240 what am I doing in this scene? Why am I 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.120 hear all that stuff? And you know, and Steve, you 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.960 walk on, I couldn't you walks right over? Hey, how 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.240 you doing? I'm Steve? You know, glad you're here. Blah 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.680 blah blah. You know, it just couldn't be more gracious. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.880 And Greg was like that as well, you know everybody, um, 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.320 and well, it's funny because, like as you said, the 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.800 first I don't know the first number of years, it 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.160 was always me and Steve mostly, but it was always corporate, 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.640 so I was never in the bullpen. It was always 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:40.120 he would come season five or so. I don't know 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.160 when I started going to Scranton, but the first few 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.560 times like, oh wow, like I'm never here, this as 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.800 will And I mean I didn't really know anybody, didn't 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:49.480 you know, I didn't know you. I didn't know Kate 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.760 or you know, Angela, any of the people really, and 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:59.880 you were all very mean, No, especially No, and so 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.480 was like, oh wow, this is wild. Yeah, like I'm 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.679 never here, this is only smokes. The one thing I 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:08.959 think that really I feel like This made a significant 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:14.720 difference in them perhaps using me more. Was the convention 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.440 in Scranton. I should have got myself invited to that. 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.840 So we had we had finished season three, you know, 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.600 we hired Ryan. He started thinking me, I wonder if 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.080 there's a way I can sort of figure out how 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.320 to grate some business Merrill Lynch wise with this. So 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.679 I just look up is there a Merrill Lynch office 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.720 in Scranton, And lo and behold, there there is. I 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:34.840 called the office and there's a fellow who was there 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.160 at the time, and he said, hey, we're they're having 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.600 a convention, you know, in about a month, and are 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.960 you coming to that? I like, oh't no. I know 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.440 the guy putting on the convention, Tim Holmes, And he said, 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.320 let me call him. So like he set it up 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.399 for me to meet Tim, and Tim said, hey, come on, 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.040 we'll bring in And so it was great to get 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.320 to be a part of that because I didn't know anybody. 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.959 I didn't know the writers, I didn't know. So for 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.400 three days, like I get to be around and I'm 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:03.720 there and I'm talking to people, and I feel like 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.199 that made a I don't know, I feel like it 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.200 made a difference because then the writers got a sense 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:12.359 of like, uh, he's all right, he's okay, yeah, he'll 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:17.359 he'll do let's bring him back. That's fascinating. How was 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:21.920 it for you just on a personal level, having two 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.640 jobs for such a long period of time, I mean, 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.240 was that about security for you? Or yeah? Yeah, and hey, 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.760 I mean I really enjoyed my time at Marylanch like 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.360 and uh, and I got partners when I started getting busy, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.399 because when I started getting on the show a lot 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.560 that didn't necessarily take a ton of time. I mean, 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.240 most ever did, I think was twelve episodes. But it 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.480 was because of that that I was getting opportunities to 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.399 audition for a ton of stuff, for get to be 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.920 in some movies and things like that. Or I had 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.399 then had gotten on this other show when these team dramas, 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.560 it was really great fun show. Look called The Lying 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.080 Game like a pretty little liar stud think. So then 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.119 it was a little crys like, all right, I'll probably 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.199 leave in a year, who but let's just keep me 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.560 on the books. And and then then I eventually left 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:08.120 at the end of two twelve. I guess through throughout 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.240 your time on the going back a little bit how 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.679 aware were you from episode to episode or season two 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.240 season how much you're going to be involved? Not at all. 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.960 That was the crazy thing on season five. I mean, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.000 it's kind of funny in hindsight because I would just 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.000 get a call from Alison Jones, Hey, they're gonna use 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:29.000 you next week. They'll emilia script there. Oh great, I 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:30.680 didn't have an agent. I had not like, I didn't 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.240 have anything. That's awesome. And then after a little while 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.200 Alison was Great's like, I'm gonna get you some more 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.080 money that you should be getting paid a little more, 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.480 and she did that, and then you know, I ended 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.240 up in a ton of the episodes that year. I 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.040 was like, man, if I, like what I had an agent, 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.120 I might have been able to make like a lot 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.360 more money, and like, what could have been a regular man? 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.639 What was I thinking? But I, like, I would have 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.159 that thought fleetingly and like, hey, man, are you kidding? 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.480 So I didn't really dwell too much in that but no, 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.399 I wouldn't really know. And then at the end of 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.680 season five is when Randy Cordray said, Hey, they're gonna 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:06.040 you know, we gotta get you some sort of a 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:08.560 deal next year, And I said, oh, great, all right, 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.240 And then that was the got rid of me, like crap, 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.199 we'll give you eight or ten shows and at the 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.440 end you'll be gone. And you thought you were gone 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:19.919 for good. I thought I was gone for good. And 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.159 we're doing the table read and I'm reading it and 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:26.240 like huh, And I said to Paul am I gone. 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.600 He's like, yeah, you know, we'll figure out a way 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.119 to bring you back at some point. But then, you know, 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:33.960 it's so funny when they did ultimately bring me back, 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.439 Like a year and a half later, I met a 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:40.160 local Scranton fundraiser. I just happened to bump into edit 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.920 the bar, like, hey, Buckley, you're back. Let's go with it. 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:56.080 Let's go with it. Okay, that's amazing. It's a hard 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:59.879 time for hiring, so you need a hiring partner built 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:04.600 for hard times. That's Indeed. 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