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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. It is a Tuesday, so it's Big
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Speaker 1: two two nine seven, and we'll try to get some
Speaker 1: phone calls mixed in there as well. I did want
Speaker 1: to start the show the other day with a topic
Speaker 1: that we didn't get a chance to hit yesterday around
Speaker 1: special teams. There are actually a few things that happened
Speaker 1: in this game regarding the special teams, which by and large,
Speaker 1: I think over the last year and a half, two years,
Speaker 1: whatever you might want to say, I personally think the
Speaker 1: special teams have been pretty good. Like they've had a
Speaker 1: lot of things to kind of check off, like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, pretty good in this area, pretty good in
Speaker 1: this area. That all being said, there were several things
Speaker 1: that happened in this game that you could look at
Speaker 1: as special teams and kind of raise an outbrow. I'll
Speaker 1: start first just with a general idea, what do you
Speaker 1: guys think of the current special teams and how well
Speaker 1: they're performing? Nick, borderline great? Borderline great? I mean good
Speaker 1: to great. I think they're good. I don't. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to feel me in. I don't remember what happened
Speaker 1: last game that was so bad. Man missed extra point.
Speaker 1: I mean they had a guy come in there, and
Speaker 1: you know, it was a misunderstanding of how we snapped
Speaker 1: the ball. After that, you know, I don't remember anything
Speaker 1: else that that would happen on a bad thing I
Speaker 1: thought the kicker did a good job. Anger. You know,
Speaker 1: Anger's anger. You know he's gonna be I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. But I think for the most part
Speaker 1: of the Special Team has been really, really good. The man,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, you couldn't have faked a punt
Speaker 1: better than they did. And you know, Dallas recognized that.
Speaker 1: They just you know, they tried to rally. Gifford tried
Speaker 1: to rally. He saw a personal protector run through. Sometimes.
Speaker 1: I mean that could have been a bigger play than
Speaker 1: it was. The miss extra point. Yeah, that that's you know,
Speaker 1: I mean to me, that's very simple, you know. And
Speaker 1: I love the fact that Nick went up and got
Speaker 1: an explanation of how the operation works. I think that's
Speaker 1: insight that you get on this program and talk about
Speaker 1: it's clear that you know that Overton, you know, never
Speaker 1: the hand was never presented, and so you know, it's
Speaker 1: unfortunate did you have that. The thing, I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about Anger, but are we going to be worried about
Speaker 1: Anger if it turns into the member of punters in
Speaker 1: the past here, when it turns into it's, oh, it's
Speaker 1: a thirty eight yard punt. Every time, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's just a one time a game or
Speaker 1: you're trying to hit it. But he kicks at sixty one,
Speaker 1: he kicks it fifty eight, and then you kick at
Speaker 1: twenty eight, you know, and you just don't want that
Speaker 1: to be the situation that puts you in. Oh well,
Speaker 1: by the way, they just kicked a field gold and
Speaker 1: now they're ahead kind of a thing. And I those
Speaker 1: are the things that you know, the coverage on losing
Speaker 1: the ball on Goodwin on the outside, you know, was
Speaker 1: a little bit of a concern because he's one of
Speaker 1: your better special teams players. You know, he always just
Speaker 1: played with awareness and those kinds of things. But to
Speaker 1: go out and have a you know, they addressed the
Speaker 1: field Goald situation during training camp. They could have just
Speaker 1: ran with the guy Garabay, it's oh, no, we're fine,
Speaker 1: you know this is gonna be okay. No, they addressed that.
Speaker 1: So I like to see the fact that they're trying
Speaker 1: to be proactive about things, and so that I'll give
Speaker 1: them some high marks about But you know, I think overall,
Speaker 1: I think you know, I wouldn't say great, but I
Speaker 1: would say good. Yeah, I think that they've been doing
Speaker 1: just in general, a lot of special things and things
Speaker 1: that do change the game a little bit, things that
Speaker 1: in the past years before, I felt that special teams
Speaker 1: never really gave you much of anything, and now they do.
Speaker 1: They you do watch certain things that they're doing. Dorn's
Speaker 1: Armstrong on special teams doing those kinds of plays. But
Speaker 1: going talking about the kicker, we talked about it here
Speaker 1: before the game, how Jake McQuaid being out the long
Speaker 1: snapper and the changes that like how that would affect
Speaker 1: and how Maher was kicking and missing field goals and
Speaker 1: extra points in practice, and we thought, okay, maybe this
Speaker 1: could be a problem, and it really wasn't other than
Speaker 1: that mistake that again, like Ryan just said, it is
Speaker 1: something like it's fixable. It's not something that you're necessarily
Speaker 1: fully concerned about. But as far as the punning, I
Speaker 1: think it's it's happened more than I would like it
Speaker 1: to be happening, because this wasn't just the first game.
Speaker 1: It's kind of happened throughout the season where they're just
Speaker 1: not good punts and you're like, Okay, it hasn't really
Speaker 1: affected you in a game just yet, because you got
Speaker 1: the defense that you have and you win. You're winning games.
Speaker 1: But I think that that could be something that in
Speaker 1: the future could be a problem if it keeps happening.
Speaker 1: I'm not concerned right now, but that's definitely something that
Speaker 1: needs to be worked on and fixed. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: it was the Cincinnati game where he had the amazing
Speaker 1: punt that that ultimately was a part of you winning
Speaker 1: the game. And I think over the last two games,
Speaker 1: which is what's kind of raised my eyebrow a little bit.
Speaker 1: He's been so consistent throughout the time he's been here.
Speaker 1: That's the part that's a little bit weird. Like last
Speaker 1: game he had that I think it was a thirty
Speaker 1: something yard punt kind of got off the side of
Speaker 1: his foot, and then this week he has the thirties
Speaker 1: up in yard punt and and those are the things
Speaker 1: that I'm looking at. I'm like, that doesn't seem anger
Speaker 1: like it makes me a little bit concern. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know when you hey, when you block field goals
Speaker 1: or you you know, block punts and all that. You know,
Speaker 1: we don't always see that every week in the NFL,
Speaker 1: but there's you know, there's the areas of there's some concern.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I feel much better about him now
Speaker 1: than I have at any time during the the Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy administration so far, you know about I think they've
Speaker 1: made a lot of improvement. You know, you get to
Speaker 1: get like Kelvin Joseph, who everybody's kind of talking about,
Speaker 1: when's he gonna play defense? Well, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: he's playing really good on special teams for you. Right now.
Speaker 1: They're finding players that can help them win football games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and not only that, I know, Nick, you and I
Speaker 1: were talking about the formation that they had on one
Speaker 1: of their punts where they had Kelvin Joseph lined up.
Speaker 1: It was it's kind of an odd he was kind
Speaker 1: of lined up back nearer to the punter offset to
Speaker 1: the I guess what it would have been their right
Speaker 1: um And so you have basically both your gunners on
Speaker 1: one side, one offset back went up and and and
Speaker 1: at first I think everybody was a little like what
Speaker 1: is this? And and you know, we've heard some some
Speaker 1: people in the press box even being like, oh, they're
Speaker 1: being doing the crazy stuff again. But to me it
Speaker 1: was it was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because the at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the guy key you can't
Speaker 1: get a hand on him. By the time that you
Speaker 1: said it, Nick, by the time the the guy that
Speaker 1: was trying to block him got to him, He's already
Speaker 1: a full head of speed, right head of speed, head
Speaker 1: of steam running and he just couldn't. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta have the speed to offset that. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna be five yards off the ball or seven yard
Speaker 1: whatever it is, that's fine, as long as you've got
Speaker 1: the speed to make it up and the punt is
Speaker 1: there and all that. So you know, those things set
Speaker 1: up everything else. That's what That's what Fossil has done
Speaker 1: his whole career. He's he's he's faked punts enough where
Speaker 1: he's now he's got he's got that. You know that.
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks, Okay, he's gonna have a fake punt and
Speaker 1: it works to his advantage. Yeah, you know, I gonna
Speaker 1: get a throwback in this game, don't you think? Probably
Speaker 1: national national TV game? This has been special teams. Coaches
Speaker 1: they always think about, hm, let's pull out our best
Speaker 1: ones so you'll get something. You'll get something in this game.
Speaker 1: I would have thought that about a year ago. It
Speaker 1: jumped out to me yesterday with Mike McCarthy was talking
Speaker 1: when he was talking about the offense actually, and he
Speaker 1: was saying something to the effect of the head coach
Speaker 1: has told him talking about Kellen, the head coach just
Speaker 1: told him, we have to be smarter talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of playing to our defense. And I think it's
Speaker 1: the same thing with special teams. The head coach is
Speaker 1: probably telling him, Man, we're not gonna do that. Right now?
Speaker 1: What is not a bad thing? What did Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: say on the on the radio this morning on one
Speaker 1: or five three the fan, He said, he said, run
Speaker 1: the football, play good defense, punt the ball. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: and then and then the good, good question, good follow
Speaker 1: up to that is that do you need a forty
Speaker 1: million dollar quarterback? Basically you do that? That is a
Speaker 1: good question, yeah, Nick answer, No, you don't need a
Speaker 1: four million dollar quarterback to do that. Um. But then again,
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta remember when Dak signed his deal,
Speaker 1: he was the number two paid quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And what's he in ten now? I mean, it quickly changed.
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny you asked the question about a
Speaker 1: forty million dollar qarback and I don't want to go
Speaker 1: down that path. But this team is equipped not to
Speaker 1: have a forty million dollar quarterback. And I'll say it
Speaker 1: for this reason alone, the general manager and is not
Speaker 1: going anywhere. You know, the general manager is you know,
Speaker 1: it's a family run team much like the Bears and
Speaker 1: the Giants, and that you know the other other teams
Speaker 1: around the league that the Bengals that have you know, personnel.
Speaker 1: So if you want to make a decision, you know
Speaker 1: some of these guys like I know my guy down
Speaker 1: there in Tampa, Jason Light, he thought he was going
Speaker 1: to get fired until Tom Brady showed up. You know.
Speaker 1: Less Snee thought he was going to get fired until,
Speaker 1: you know, until his head coach showed up. Sometimes as
Speaker 1: a general manager, you have to sign a forty million
Speaker 1: dollar year quarterback or you have to make a trade
Speaker 1: to go get one of those guys because of job
Speaker 1: security and stuff. There's a lot of teams around on
Speaker 1: the leaguehere they're not going to change their general managers.
Speaker 1: And I'm seeing this out of respect for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: because you know what, they could say, no, we don't
Speaker 1: have to pay a forty million dollar quarter million dollar
Speaker 1: yar quarterback because you know, we feel like that we
Speaker 1: could draft well enough. We'll go find one, and you know,
Speaker 1: we'll build around it that way. So a lot of
Speaker 1: general managers say, I've got to have the forty million
Speaker 1: dollar quarterback to win, you know, yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: to me, it goes even further than that about we
Speaker 1: say this all the time. If you're going to be
Speaker 1: a good I don't think there's ever been a great
Speaker 1: team that doesn't do something great. You got to do
Speaker 1: something great. And usually when you sign a quarterback to that,
Speaker 1: he's great and you're winning because of that. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think Dak is good. I don't think Dak is
Speaker 1: like great, but I think that's he's good and they've
Speaker 1: won with him. But now they're winning with an absolutely
Speaker 1: great defense, and that's I mean, if they can just
Speaker 1: play this way with Dac and he can take more
Speaker 1: shots and also he can run the ball a little bit,
Speaker 1: I mean even that's another think Jerry said, Just imagine
Speaker 1: how if the defense keeps playing this way and Dad
Speaker 1: gives you more as you would expect him to do
Speaker 1: than then Cooper Rush is giving you. And quite frankly,
Speaker 1: I don't know that they've beaten on some teams, and
Speaker 1: they've been some teams I think are pretty good. I
Speaker 1: don't know that any of the teams they've beaten. I
Speaker 1: expect to see in January late January playing football. And
Speaker 1: so if you're if you're wanting to make a deep run,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this question for you guys, then
Speaker 1: we know this weekend is a different challenge that we
Speaker 1: haven't faced just yet. Yeah, expect imagining. Dyk is ready
Speaker 1: to go, and Jerry did talk about it this morning
Speaker 1: and said, Okay, one of the things that he's missing
Speaker 1: and needs to do is spin it. Spin the ball
Speaker 1: when he throws. And that's something that they're gonna look
Speaker 1: at it tomorrow when he gets on there. But let's
Speaker 1: say he's healthy, he's good to you for this weekend.
Speaker 1: Who gives you a better chance? I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that's any question. I think, but if would you play
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott this weekend? Can I can? I put that
Speaker 1: question actually another way because I want to make sure
Speaker 1: I get this fan an opportunity to ask his question.
Speaker 1: But Eric Corderrell says, is an eighty percent Dak and
Speaker 1: by the way, that you can put whatever percentage you
Speaker 1: want on it, better than a one hundred percent Cooper Rush. No, no,
Speaker 1: why I don't think Dak is that much better than
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush. And why is the only eighty percent? What
Speaker 1: is the part that he's not is the thumb? Then
Speaker 1: then if his thumb isn't isn't. If the thumb is
Speaker 1: the reason why he's eighty percent, then I think it's
Speaker 1: worse than that because Dad doesn't throw the ball completely
Speaker 1: accurate at a one hundred percent. So if he's an
Speaker 1: eighty percent because of the thumb, if if it's because
Speaker 1: of something else calf, ankle or not calf, that's a
Speaker 1: big deal. But other things, something else, Yeah, FuMB, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just again, I don't. If
Speaker 1: he's an eighty percent quarterback because of the pump, than
Speaker 1: I'd rather rather you've already seen him at one hundred
Speaker 1: percent not do very well well, not just week one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, and I I'll tell you what, that is
Speaker 1: a very bold statement you made. And you know what
Speaker 1: I applaud think. No, I'll tell you what I to me.
Speaker 1: I know, I know in this particular game, you've got
Speaker 1: a score. And I was watching the Eagles this morning
Speaker 1: and I'm just thinking this is going to be a
Speaker 1: real test for your defense, and they could play, they
Speaker 1: could play really well, and it might not be enough
Speaker 1: if you don't keep up with you know, with you know,
Speaker 1: if you just can't just leave him out there and
Speaker 1: just hope for the best and hope that Hurts doesn't
Speaker 1: see the drop linebacker and he throws an interception and
Speaker 1: all that you've played well against him before. But I
Speaker 1: think that to me, I think that Dak might give
Speaker 1: me a chance for more points. That's the only thing
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of right now. And but I man, I
Speaker 1: applaud I really do, because you're not you know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there just blindly follow this
Speaker 1: team and it's Dac, it's Dick, it's Dak. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's some things that he's deficient at, and he's
Speaker 1: some things that Cooper Rush is deficient at, but you're
Speaker 1: not seeing them as much. Yeah, yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: that's to me, that's fine, But I think it's also
Speaker 1: just completely dismissing the fact of what Dak did last year, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he had some rough games, but Dak was balling. Dak
Speaker 1: was putting up numbers that Cooper Rush has not come
Speaker 1: close to in any of the five starts that he's had.
Speaker 1: So I think it's just to me, that's a little
Speaker 1: to say that, to say that Dak eighty percent Dak
Speaker 1: isn't better than one hundred percent rush, I don't agree with. Now,
Speaker 1: I will agree with this point that you made. If
Speaker 1: it's the thumb, that's a whole different thing. And by
Speaker 1: the way, that's any quarterback in the league. You tell
Speaker 1: me you get an eighty percent quarterback versu one hundred
Speaker 1: percent quarterback, and you're talking about a thumb on their
Speaker 1: throwing hand. Now, they can't throw the ball, that's what
Speaker 1: they have to do. So I get that point. But
Speaker 1: just four out of every five eighty percent, four of
Speaker 1: every five throws are just gonna be crap. I don't
Speaker 1: know where it's going, and maybe going back the other way,
Speaker 1: how about that? But by my point, so I get
Speaker 1: your point. If it's the thumb, and that's what it
Speaker 1: is in this instance, and yeah, I want I want
Speaker 1: Dak back when he's one hundred percent because I don't
Speaker 1: trust a quarterback with a bump thumb says to me,
Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna be able to throw the ball
Speaker 1: at your best and you might not be able to
Speaker 1: hold on to ball if somebody hits that arm, that's
Speaker 1: that could become a fumbll So, yes, that's the one
Speaker 1: percent when it comes to the thumb. Yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: the thing that Cooper Rush has done. He hasn't put
Speaker 1: you in harm's way with with turnovers. And you know,
Speaker 1: if you wanted, the most redeeming quality I think Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush has right now is the fact that he doesn't
Speaker 1: turn the ball over, you know, and with Dak, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if the thumb's bum Yeah. Well, I even
Speaker 1: in one hundred percent, like Nick's talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: decision making, throwing at a crop that hasn't been Dak
Speaker 1: has not been a turnover guy throughout his career, really
Speaker 1: has he? No, No, he hasn't been. He's been to me,
Speaker 1: there's been. He's even admitted it. Derek standing at the
Speaker 1: podium that he goes, I got too greedy. I tried
Speaker 1: to I got too greedy. Yeah. But but and that's
Speaker 1: how it more than it was, it more than a
Speaker 1: than a good quarterback. Fact that he has to address it,
Speaker 1: I think says something. Yeah. I mean when you stand
Speaker 1: up there and the questions asked, and you say I
Speaker 1: got too greedy. You're you're saying that like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: tried to force that one when I probably shouldn't know.
Speaker 1: But most of his career he has been a guy
Speaker 1: that's even in the opposite of that, he's been well,
Speaker 1: you know, hesitant towards you know, throwing the ball in
Speaker 1: there like that. The thing is is to me, when
Speaker 1: I see the biggest difference between the two is when
Speaker 1: somebody puts their hand on the shoulder pad of Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush plays over either he gets sacked or he throws
Speaker 1: it away or whatever. There's no wiggling out of that
Speaker 1: and doing something else, which is fine for this team,
Speaker 1: right based on what they gotta right. Yeah, But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is is, you know, if Dak plays kind
Speaker 1: of hesitant and doesn't want to get greedy and doesn't
Speaker 1: want to run and doesn't want to just want to
Speaker 1: sit back there and kind of throwing for the ball,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that he is better than Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: if he plays that way. Yeah, but that's not That's
Speaker 1: not how he's played throughout his career, though, is it. Okay?
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying he's got to get that back.
Speaker 1: He's got to get that back and play, because we've
Speaker 1: seen when he comes back from injuries he's been. He
Speaker 1: has been the same he's been in caution. So if
Speaker 1: he comes back and he's at eighty ninety percent and
Speaker 1: he doesn't really want to run and he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to throw interception, he just wants to kind of play
Speaker 1: it safe, and he's not playing his game because he
Speaker 1: doesn't have that deep ball touch like like Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: Jos and he doesn't. There are some things that rush
Speaker 1: there not many, but there are some things he does
Speaker 1: a little bit better. So I'm saying, Dak has got
Speaker 1: to be Dak. Be that guy that you were Mississippi
Speaker 1: State first couple of years. Be that guy cut it loose,
Speaker 1: be a football player playing quarterback. If he's that, then
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are much much better. So we agree one
Speaker 1: hundred percent Dak. There's no question. Yeah, he is the
Speaker 1: better quarterback. He should be in there eighty percent Dak.
Speaker 1: If the eighty percent is about the thumb, now that's
Speaker 1: a whole different ball game. Now you're thinking about something different.
Speaker 1: I do agree with Nick about the cautious Dak because
Speaker 1: I went into the season thinking he put all that
Speaker 1: injury history and stuff behind him. Yeah that he and
Speaker 1: maybe he had. You're losing, you're losing the tackle, you're
Speaker 1: loser receiver, you're losing players around you. And I was thinking, Okay, Dak,
Speaker 1: it's now your team. Go go find a way to carry.
Speaker 1: Go carry like Michael Parsons is carrying your team right now.
Speaker 1: You know he's carrying your defense for sure, So go
Speaker 1: be that guy too. And you know, but if you
Speaker 1: see cautious Dak holding, holding, not willing to run, not
Speaker 1: willing to take it, you know, not willing to to
Speaker 1: escape and go make a play, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's a good enough quarterback just to play that way,
Speaker 1: just drop back and throw the ball. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think when he when he feels
Speaker 1: how the game is being played, where it's a little
Speaker 1: blood on him, a little mud on him, when he
Speaker 1: feels that he's a different player because and when they
Speaker 1: played fast, he's a for player. Because that's it takes
Speaker 1: away the thought, It takes away that Okay, I'm reading
Speaker 1: reading reading you know it make him play, make him
Speaker 1: play the game how he is more comfortable playing that Well, also,
Speaker 1: we don't know just yet how the game is going
Speaker 1: to change. Kellen Moore's game is going to change once
Speaker 1: Dak comes in, because well, it could be maybe there
Speaker 1: are some things that you realize. Okay, maybe because they've
Speaker 1: said it before, maybe we kind of simplify things a
Speaker 1: little bit and not gifts so much and see how
Speaker 1: that works out for a guy like Dak. And also
Speaker 1: with Dak sitting on the sideline, you get a different
Speaker 1: aspect than view of things and you start realizing some
Speaker 1: things that when you go in, this is what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do or this is how I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: So I think that when he comes back, whenever the
Speaker 1: time is right, Kellen Moore and what he's gonna do
Speaker 1: with the offense is gonna look a little different than
Speaker 1: what it was at the beginning of that first game,
Speaker 1: let me say, because the reality is, you see how
Speaker 1: you've been playing with Cooper Rush, and yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: not too much. You're not giving him too much on
Speaker 1: his plate, and maybe you know you need to because
Speaker 1: now it's at that point where you need your offense
Speaker 1: to score more points. And I think a guy like that,
Speaker 1: with that kind of formula, DA can Cooper Rush is
Speaker 1: formula right now can be a little bit more successful
Speaker 1: than what it's been so far. Yeah, the one thing
Speaker 1: I'll say is the thing I've seen that's really different
Speaker 1: is they've been committed to the run when Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: is in there. I think they should continue to be
Speaker 1: committed to the run. And what that means is what
Speaker 1: that means is I'm not saying I don't want Dak
Speaker 1: to throw the ball. Don't take the ball out of
Speaker 1: Dak's hand, But Dad doesn't need to be throwing the
Speaker 1: ball forty times in a game like you need to
Speaker 1: find some balance. And by the way, that's just because
Speaker 1: on a team like this, where you have a really
Speaker 1: good defense, you want to be able to take some time.
Speaker 1: So you want to be able to run the ball.
Speaker 1: And this offensive line, as they've shown, they are a
Speaker 1: good run blocking offensive line. How much do you think
Speaker 1: that Dak changes plays at the line? I know this
Speaker 1: is a terrible question for everybody. Let me do this.
Speaker 1: Let's do this. I'm gonna take a quick break. When
Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna answer that question. We'll be
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Speaker 1: you asked the question before the break. What's the question?
Speaker 1: What was the question? I mean, no, give fifty eight
Speaker 1: years old? Uh you yeah, with with Dak you know
Speaker 1: how much? And this is gonna be hard for us
Speaker 1: to you know, unless we ask and you know, how
Speaker 1: much do you think that Dak does change plays at
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage? And you have to add to
Speaker 1: that question, is it different than the amount that Rush does,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to get the the impression that
Speaker 1: Dak does all the time and Rush doesn't. And what
Speaker 1: we might find out is that if they both do
Speaker 1: it quite a bit, right, Yeah, And it might be
Speaker 1: a situation where Rush is looking at his team and going, man,
Speaker 1: my defense is playing really well to day. If I
Speaker 1: run the ball, if I run the ball here on
Speaker 1: third and twelve, we might get a first down or
Speaker 1: we could punt it right like the boss wants us
Speaker 1: to pun it. Yeah, right, you know you know that
Speaker 1: that's a good point. I was gonna say um before
Speaker 1: about Dak has never Dak has played with a really
Speaker 1: good defense. Dak hasn't played with a great defense. Even
Speaker 1: last year that was not a great defense. It was
Speaker 1: some great moments at times and last year, but but
Speaker 1: they had some issues too. They weren't playing like this.
Speaker 1: And so I mean, I think you gotta give that
Speaker 1: credit to for for like reading the room, like let's
Speaker 1: see what happens when he's in there and he can
Speaker 1: see what's happening too. And and that's kind of because
Speaker 1: that Bingals game changed everything. That's when you realize, like, man,
Speaker 1: they really can play at a high, high level with
Speaker 1: parsons and all that. Just don't if it up, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think he could play that way too. I
Speaker 1: think he. I think he'll be smart. He's a smart guy.
Speaker 1: He'll be smart enough to do that as well, and
Speaker 1: then take the chances now and then when they come
Speaker 1: to like run and get the first down and kind
Speaker 1: of be dak. Do you think that quarterbacks here the
Speaker 1: label bus driver and it affects them? Yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think people say that
Speaker 1: he's a bus driver, but they win games, but he's
Speaker 1: a bus driver. You think the quarterbacks, especially quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: this day and age, they're trying to justify salary. It's
Speaker 1: so stupid though, bus drip. You know what A bus
Speaker 1: driver's number one job safety. Don't hit a kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the number one job. Don't do anything with the Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't don't do anything. Yeah, and that's okay, be safe.
Speaker 1: I don't yeah, yeah, I guarantee though, if you need
Speaker 1: to take that thing in the h OV lane and
Speaker 1: get it and go seventy five down there because you're
Speaker 1: late for a high school game because you were driving
Speaker 1: bust bus number one out of eight and they're driving
Speaker 1: down I bet he can get on it too if
Speaker 1: you need it. But for the most part, stay twenty
Speaker 1: miles an hour. Stop, get that red light, you know,
Speaker 1: red stop, signed out, make sure nobody goes, make sure
Speaker 1: everyone's safe around you see. But they don't pay the
Speaker 1: bus driver quarterback, No, no they don't. I mean, the
Speaker 1: bus driver is not gonna the bus driver that's driving
Speaker 1: the yellow dog, he might not get the job at trailways,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I've all get to
Speaker 1: drive the cowboy busy. I've always thought Tom Brady was
Speaker 1: the the greatest bus driver of all time. And that's
Speaker 1: why I don't think it's a bad term. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a bad term. Bus driver to me is
Speaker 1: just just don't mess it up. Keep it in front
Speaker 1: of you. But when it's time to go, you can go.
Speaker 1: You can drive down the field and go and do
Speaker 1: all that. But but I mean doesn't care about his
Speaker 1: running backs getting a touchdown Dion Lewis in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl after this glorious comeback. A lot of quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: throwing that in. Russell wanted to throw it in, didn't
Speaker 1: want to run it to Marshawn Lynch. You know what,
Speaker 1: run the ball. Who cares because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, the only stat people care about is this
Speaker 1: like voisting that Trophia, you know, And so I think
Speaker 1: and I think Dak has that quality, I really do.
Speaker 1: I don't think Dak cares too much about the stats
Speaker 1: and all that he'll run to the Z he'll do
Speaker 1: and that he'll do what he needs to do. So,
Speaker 1: you know, but we're talking a lot about a guy
Speaker 1: that's not gonna play, Like, yeah, I know he plays
Speaker 1: this week. I don't think there's a chance. And Eagles
Speaker 1: are over there like they know who's playing. Quite frankly,
Speaker 1: the way everybody's talking about it, I don't even know
Speaker 1: if it's a foregone conclusion he plays against the Lions,
Speaker 1: like right now again, if we're talking about getting him
Speaker 1: to one hundred percent. And I think this team, especially
Speaker 1: especially if they get a win this weekend in Philly,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna look at it too and say,
Speaker 1: is Dak one he's one of our medical people saying
Speaker 1: if he's one hundred percent, if he's not one hundred
Speaker 1: percent and he's throwing well, because that's the other part.
Speaker 1: It's like the thumb has to get hit well, and
Speaker 1: then he hasn't been throwing. So is he back to
Speaker 1: throwing in a way that he doesn't get him injured
Speaker 1: because he's throwing so much all of a sudden, Right,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things have to be factored in.
Speaker 1: I'm not certain he played. He makes two weeks. He
Speaker 1: has to throw this week to play against the Lions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's throw this week. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's throw this week to play against the Eagles, Right,
Speaker 1: I think it's throw to throw well to play against
Speaker 1: the Lions, exactly. That's the way I look at it too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I look at it. All. Right, let's we
Speaker 1: want some other questions that we have some from some fans.
Speaker 1: We got a question from Andrew Rucker. Interesting question. He says,
Speaker 1: does Tyler Smith have a job when he's healthy or
Speaker 1: does he become your swing tackle? Wow, Aaron Donald's produced
Speaker 1: in the drafts. I mean, go back to the draft.
Speaker 1: I mean does your first round pick have a job? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does. I think he I mean questions Tyron Smith,
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, I mean, yeah, I don't know. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: not such a crazy carse that to me is that
Speaker 1: to me is a lot more like if you want
Speaker 1: to talk about Dad. That's not the same thing as
Speaker 1: Tony Romo. This is like Tony Romo because you're talking
Speaker 1: about an aging player. Yeah, you're talking about a player
Speaker 1: that you have a replacement for, and by the way,
Speaker 1: he's playing pretty good and you probably are thinking this
Speaker 1: might be towards the end of when you're gonna have
Speaker 1: that player on your roster. Anyway, what you need to
Speaker 1: find out you can't stay healthy? They say, Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: the swing tackle or Tyron Smith, Tyron comes in? What
Speaker 1: what you need to figure out? When Tyron Smith? No,
Speaker 1: they said, I'm sorry, did I read around? I was
Speaker 1: saying Tyron Smith be the swing Tyron Smith Tyrn Smith? Oh,
Speaker 1: I thought you said, does Tyler Smight have a job?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, no no, no, Tyron Smith pro bowler. Does
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith come back? And let's let's be clear, does
Speaker 1: he come back and get his starting job? They just
Speaker 1: said job. I think it's really more, does he get
Speaker 1: his starting job? Does become swing tackle. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: what I think has to happen is is that, um,
Speaker 1: then they're not going to face another errand an old
Speaker 1: type of player. I mean, some guys that are really
Speaker 1: really good. But Aaron Donald said, um you, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pick you and I'm gonna I'm you know, there's a
Speaker 1: reason there's like in Red Rover, You're just like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go for him and I'm busting through there. Does
Speaker 1: does does anybody bully Tyrann Smith? You know? Is he
Speaker 1: at that point? I don't think Aaron Donald will have
Speaker 1: done it as bad as it's been injury wise. No
Speaker 1: one's really just kicking his ass, like and I and
Speaker 1: I've seen him, can I ask you? So? Yeah, this
Speaker 1: year during training camp he got beat a lot more
Speaker 1: than we're customed to seeing him give meat by that
Speaker 1: awesome defense. Yeah. But but you've just been saying like,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna face those guys. So I don't even
Speaker 1: I don't think any of those guys other than Mica
Speaker 1: is necessarily Aaron Donald was to mean well, because I'm
Speaker 1: when he was before the injury, there were still moments
Speaker 1: that you're like, Okay, that's not usual for a guy
Speaker 1: like Tyran to be allowing. And another thing I was thinking,
Speaker 1: and this is a cop out I answer, but I
Speaker 1: truly think that when he comes to the old line,
Speaker 1: things just kind of work themselves out, like something happens
Speaker 1: and then you figure out, like we always get to
Speaker 1: that point where like, oh, what's gonna happen here? Well,
Speaker 1: things just happen and then they work themselves out because
Speaker 1: then there's an injury that pops up, and then now
Speaker 1: you got to replace the guy. So that's something that
Speaker 1: it'll be great to have him back when he's ready
Speaker 1: and healthy to go. But I think that and hopefully not,
Speaker 1: but I just think that something always happens, and by
Speaker 1: that time of the season, you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: these guys are really pretty banged up. So we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. I don't think he's going to be out
Speaker 1: there doing what he's done to try to get himself
Speaker 1: back by Thanksgiving or whatever, just so he could be
Speaker 1: the swing tackle. And I don't think you're gonna let
Speaker 1: a decent steal and a pretty good Tyler Smith keep
Speaker 1: tiring Smith on the sidelines just because, I mean, because
Speaker 1: and what will happen is the first time that Terrence
Speaker 1: Steele gets gives up a sack, then all your questions
Speaker 1: on there are going to be like, should Terrence Steele
Speaker 1: be this week? I mean, I need to like keep
Speaker 1: ripping Terrence Steel because he's playing. You know, I just
Speaker 1: take that three. There's a couple of guys that listen
Speaker 1: to our show that are like NFL guys, and it's
Speaker 1: funny they text in. Both of them said, play the rookie.
Speaker 1: Just keep playing. I just keep playing that rookie. Just
Speaker 1: play the rookie and over over Tyron Smith. And here's why,
Speaker 1: here's why I think. I think are they're saying about
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele though, well, we didn't talk about Tarren Steele.
Speaker 1: Let that later. I say, if you keep talking bad
Speaker 1: about Tarred still, he'll make you look like you're an
Speaker 1: idiot for doing that. Yeah. Look, I've been throwing dirt
Speaker 1: on him forever since he's been a starter. If you're
Speaker 1: talking about Tyler Smith, who at that point will have
Speaker 1: played twelve, thirteen, fourteen games as a starter and plays
Speaker 1: those games similar to what he's played these first five games,
Speaker 1: I look at that and say that's my future. Sure,
Speaker 1: he is the guy I'm gonna ride with I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily think Tyron was the tyrant I've been accustomed to
Speaker 1: before the injury. And to say that he hasn't played
Speaker 1: football in several months, I don't know that he's gonna
Speaker 1: come back better than that. So, and by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm in the deep part of my run towards the playoffs,
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with the younger guy. I'll say this, I
Speaker 1: think he will be better though, yes I do, because
Speaker 1: because what has been his biggest problem, well it's all
Speaker 1: connected together injuries, back, shoulder, elbow, all neck, all of
Speaker 1: that stuff. He's just like this bionic person. Well, what's
Speaker 1: what's been you know, like that he's dealing with the knee,
Speaker 1: the kneecap or the hamstring whatever. He's rehabbing that. But
Speaker 1: all of that has got to be feeling pretty good,
Speaker 1: because every year he tells you in August, I'm feeling
Speaker 1: better than I've ever felt before because he hasn't been
Speaker 1: doing anything for a while. So all I'm saying is
Speaker 1: is that if we can get this thing healthy, the hamstring,
Speaker 1: then he's gonna get here in December and he's not
Speaker 1: going to have those issues, at least for a game, right,
Speaker 1: But he didn't have those things in August, and like
Speaker 1: we said, he wasn't playing like the tyrn we were
Speaker 1: accustomed to sing. That doesn't mean he's bad, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not the tire. So all I'm saying is if
Speaker 1: he's down a notch and I got this young guy
Speaker 1: who's playing pretty good and he's going to be my future,
Speaker 1: why did I disrupt that? Because because McGovern maybe isn't
Speaker 1: playing well or tyrant too. I mean, like she said,
Speaker 1: everything's gonna work, I just don't see this. I don't
Speaker 1: see this line being so good that get on the field.
Speaker 1: I don't got it. We're talking all this talk, but
Speaker 1: we don't even know if he does want to come back, Like,
Speaker 1: is he at the point yes, well, he's trying to
Speaker 1: work out I see. Well, yeah, I could see scenario
Speaker 1: where he's not. But he might he might be. He
Speaker 1: might be a situation where's trying to work out just
Speaker 1: so we can walk. Yeah. I mean, you're still rehabbing
Speaker 1: and all that from what you went through. But it
Speaker 1: makes me wonder it's he at the point where he's okay,
Speaker 1: like ready, you know, I don't I hate to say
Speaker 1: to call it quits. But he's gone through a lot,
Speaker 1: and we all know those kinds of pains that regular
Speaker 1: human beings our size deal with, so I can't imagine
Speaker 1: what he deals with on a daily night. No, to
Speaker 1: your point, though, I was in the off season there
Speaker 1: was talk about which trade and what could you get,
Speaker 1: and then it came down to I had people in
Speaker 1: the organization tell me, if you try and trade him
Speaker 1: a Hill retire. He's just not going to go somewhere
Speaker 1: else and play football. So I mean, that's that's kind
Speaker 1: of to your point, but it just makes me wonder.
Speaker 1: And it was a time when we talked about him
Speaker 1: as the bet one of the best blindman in the league,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about it looks broken down to me,
Speaker 1: God where be gone? But I think the thing too
Speaker 1: is that you know with you know, if if the
Speaker 1: line is playing well, and that's and I have Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones the question on our show one day on one
Speaker 1: O five three about there used to be a time
Speaker 1: you played with your five guys and you didn't mess
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, but it seems like this team and
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, you're right, but this team, we have
Speaker 1: to find the right five guys and whether that's Jason
Speaker 1: Peters or Tyron Smith or whoever that is. We got
Speaker 1: to keep doing this so that that leads me to
Speaker 1: believe that they might even with Tyler Smith playing, well,
Speaker 1: they might put Tyrann Smith. But I totally agree with
Speaker 1: her on this, totally agree. It will work itself out
Speaker 1: one way or another. They're not gonna sit there with
Speaker 1: this great problem like who do you play it? Left
Speaker 1: calls Now, it'll it'll, it'll work itself out. But but
Speaker 1: give them credit that that they have rotated enough where
Speaker 1: you know, they're not They're not scared to play FARNII.
Speaker 1: They're not scared to play McGovern obviously he starts. They're
Speaker 1: not even scared to play Tyler Smith and move him around,
Speaker 1: you know, so they if they have some backup situations,
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be fine. All right, We're gonna
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Speaker 1: time for one more question. It's one that I think
Speaker 1: could be a relatively short conversation Nick for that. But
Speaker 1: this question comes from Armando. He says, did de Ron
Speaker 1: Bland play poorly that he was not given an opportunity
Speaker 1: over Lewis against the Rams man. I that's a great question, seriously,
Speaker 1: because to me, I thought the whole thing, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give Bland a chance. I need to see Bland play.
Speaker 1: I'm even more. But it's such a difficult task to
Speaker 1: have to deal with the Rams, with that, with how
Speaker 1: the slots being play right, and I would hate to
Speaker 1: see that kid get out there. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's just okay, what is I mean? You're playing man coverage,
Speaker 1: You're running all over the place and you're trying to
Speaker 1: carry guys and it doesn't work out. Then your confidence
Speaker 1: is smashed. I think, just keeping ready? Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: him a test, keeping ready for this next These teams
Speaker 1: are going to get the ball out quick. We know that,
Speaker 1: and that means these corners are going to tackle, and
Speaker 1: we we've seen it. Diggs has to tackle a lot.
Speaker 1: They're trying to beat him up. Anthony Brown, Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: all these guys have to tackle, so they're gonna get
Speaker 1: I mean Jordan Lewis stay not stays injured, but there
Speaker 1: will be an injury with him it happens. He's not
Speaker 1: the biggest guy in the world. He's gonna get banged up, Anthony,
Speaker 1: all of them, they're gonna deal with something. So like
Speaker 1: you said, just keep them ready, stay stay ready. Kelvin,
Speaker 1: Joseph will have to play something. Even no Sean Wright
Speaker 1: has been an active So these guys will play because
Speaker 1: I think that because of how much they're having to tackle,
Speaker 1: they get the ball out so quick, they're gonna get
Speaker 1: banged up. Keeping that kid's confidence high right now, but
Speaker 1: I want to see more of him, I will say that,
Speaker 1: oh no, everything. He has passed every test along the way.
Speaker 1: He is camp. He has been every bit as good
Speaker 1: as you want to tell me. If you tell me
Speaker 1: he is a track guy, he's the strongest track guy
Speaker 1: that I've ever seen playing football like that, because track
Speaker 1: guys usually these small, little fast guys, Tavon Austin types.
Speaker 1: You know all that. This guy is well built, he's strong,
Speaker 1: he's tough, and then he's also got that speed, so
Speaker 1: he's gonna keep it. That's funny because that's not the
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, sure. For for his size. I guess
Speaker 1: when when I see him in person, you see him
Speaker 1: without the equipment and all that shoulder pats off, he's
Speaker 1: he's he's a baby. Like you see his face, he's
Speaker 1: he's small and and just like such a baby someone
Speaker 1: that you would never even think is playing in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And the fact that so you you speak to him,
Speaker 1: he even has like this un confidence about him, but
Speaker 1: like not in a bad way, just you know, someone
Speaker 1: that's young and unexperienced and just not used to lights,
Speaker 1: camera and all of this going on. But yet the
Speaker 1: way he's playing and the way he plays on the field,
Speaker 1: it's just so it's kind of refreshing and stuff. But
Speaker 1: the way you were describing him, I'm like, we're talking
Speaker 1: about the same person, because that's not the visual I have. Athletically,
Speaker 1: he's I mean, his background was was a track guy.
Speaker 1: But but he he's got some good strength to him.
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's got the total package. I think that
Speaker 1: was a really good pass. Somebody in the PAC twelve
Speaker 1: missed that kids guy, I mean him playing at Fresno.
Speaker 1: They missed that kid. He should be playing at Washington
Speaker 1: or UCLA. You're a good player. He's a good player game.
Speaker 1: And I don't know that I can remember a rookie
Speaker 1: coming in and being that impressive that early on here
Speaker 1: at a camp a rookie Scandrid, Is he that good?
Speaker 1: Scandrid's pretty good at everybody. Yeah, But during camp though, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he started his first game at
Speaker 1: the first game of the year against Cleveland oh eight.
Speaker 1: He started that game. He was the slot corner. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was impressive from from the jump there. And he
Speaker 1: wasn't the top corner drafted that R Jenkins was. And
Speaker 1: I remember, didn't he come down to the last last
Speaker 1: little bit before they made the decision the next year?
Speaker 1: Next year? And some guys go, yeah, but that was
Speaker 1: like who cares? I mean, okay, so you don't start,
Speaker 1: you know, they were still a third corner. Now. I
Speaker 1: just this camp good. It was so impressive, And maybe
Speaker 1: part of it was I didn't the Bland came out
Speaker 1: of nowhere for me, Like I just I knew they
Speaker 1: drafted him, but I was kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't be this good. He's been here, he's been yeah,
Speaker 1: and they got decisions to make with Jordan Lewis and
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown and stuff like contract wise next year and
Speaker 1: then he might, you know, help them make decisions, no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. All right, we appreciate you guys. Janus
Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow. Tomorrow go to jump into Cowboys
Speaker 1: versus Eagles. We'll talk about the Eagles offense versus the
Speaker 1: Dallas defense. So many storylines there till then for Nick
Speaker 1: even Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagles and
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