1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: What's going on everybody? Logan Ryan here back with the 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: NFL Player podcast. Man, it's been a little minute since 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: I made one of these. Uh had a lot go 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: on in life. Obviously made a move down to the 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks. Excited about that I actually have a 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: home um down in Florida and it's gonna work out, 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: I think for my family especially and myself and be 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: able to play with a really good team and have 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: super Bowl ambitions. And it just shows you how quick 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: things can change in the NFL. Never did I expect 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: to see that coming or expect to see me playing 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: for the Bucks this season, but that's just kind of 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: how it shakes out. And was trying to make the 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: best the situation that was put in, and that's football talk. 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: That's what this podcast is about. But it's also about 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: my journey and our journey of NFL players to show 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: that we're more than just football players. And what makes 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: this world go around is all the beautiful mother's out there. 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: And I have a special guest to guests that I 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: know really well, and I better say it's my favorite guest, 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: but my wife, Ashley Ryan is joining us today and 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: she's gonna spend a couple of minutes with us, and 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about what it's like to be married 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: to me and when I'm like off the field and 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: some of my quirks and not the well put together 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: a professional that you guys might hear see all the 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: time kind of with the real and cut wrong me is, So, 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: what's going on up? Yeah, there's there's a lot about 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: logan you may not know, but we make it work 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: and we're I'm happy to share. So me and you, 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: we we met at Rutgers University. Ashley played short stop 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: for the softball team. Can we hear a little bit 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: about you know, your you were a highly talented player 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: at Rutgers, I will say that. And you were a 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: lot bigger deal than me at Rutgers when we first 36 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: got there. So let's talk a little bit about your 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: your softball journey and how you ended up getting the 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: Rutgers and how we are a world aligned. Yeah, for 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: you to say a softball player is a big deal 40 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: is pretty cool. You know you don't hear it often. Um, 41 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 1: I didn't hear it often at Rutgers, but nonetheless, so yeah, 42 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: I mean I played softball my whole life from the 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: time I could, the same story as you. The time 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: I could was old enough to pick up a ball, 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: I did, and that was the sport I chose. My 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: dad played baseball. I never really had a huge interest 47 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: in other sports. That I was just what I always 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: wanted to do. Knew it early on, so played my 49 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: whole life. I played baseball with the boys until they 50 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: petitioned the league and told me I wasn't allowed to anymore, 51 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: and switched over to softball. I think I think I 52 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: was pretty good. How do you feel about that? How 53 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: do you feel about when you're a girl and you're 54 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: playing baseball with the boys and then they put a 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: petition in the league to essentially kick you out of 56 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: the league? Probably could you're kick in the boys? But 57 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: how does that make you feel? What do you think? Yeah, 58 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean nowadays you would never get away with that. 59 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: It was something back in the day that maybe it 60 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: wasn't a big deal. I don't really see. I don't 61 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: think I was dominating. I was I'm still small. I 62 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: was small. I was holding my own but I think 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: it made me a lot better, and I enjoyed playing 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: with the boys. But yeah, I don't I don't think 65 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: you could get away with it. Now, I don't know 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: why it happened. Back then, I was super upset at 67 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: the time. I remember crying to my parents, Um, this 68 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: is kind of silly, but I didn't want to play 69 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: softball because I saw how the pictures through and I 70 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: thought that everybody had a throw like that underhand, underhand, 71 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: So that was that was my idea of softball back then. 72 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: So I fought it for as long as I could, 73 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: but I end up switching over. Um, I think baseball 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: really prepared me to be one of the better softball players, 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: and I stuck with it, played through high school, won 76 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: a state championship, and then ended up, you know, on 77 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: a on a pretty good travel team and committing to 78 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: Rutgers my junior year in high school. Okay, so you 79 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: you come from the dominant state of Delaware, which I 80 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: which I joke on a lot, I'm from New Jersey. 81 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: Sports are a lot better in Jersey than they are 82 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: in Delaware. Shout out Chris Godwin, shout out there on 83 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: Harmon my boys, Shout out Della Don Darnell Savage. So 84 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 1: you and Darnell Savas went to the same high school. 85 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: We did not at the same time. But yeah, shout out. 86 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: So you guys, Chris Godwin, you may not listen to this. 87 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: You may be a guest probably in the future. Not 88 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: you're my teammates. We should get them on here on 89 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: your podcast. That's something. But you guys, are you guys 90 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: are putting some respect on Delaware. I have been joke 91 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: on it for a lot of years. So let's just 92 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: say we met at the age of one. It might 93 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: have been twenty. Let's just say twenty one. Let's just 94 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: say we were at a party and I might have 95 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: snuck a cheap vodka into a expensive Great Goose bottle 96 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: to try to do the best I can on my 97 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: college budget. And we met at a party, we met 98 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: in class that we met at a already. We ended 99 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: up hitting it off um and been together ever since. 100 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: And that's ten years ago, right, ten years And then 101 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a red shirt junior and I decided 102 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go play pro football, and we're dating, and 103 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: we had a decision to be made when I got 104 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: drafted in New England Patriots, And it's kind of a 105 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: decision of hey, we've been dating for a year or two, 106 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: I'm going pro. Are you coming with me, are you not? 107 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: I know you were a criminal justice major, So what 108 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: were your plans in college? Yeah? You know, so I 109 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: did major in criminal justice and psychology. As many athletes feel, 110 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: I didn't really know where I wanted to go with 111 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: any of that. I had an interest in it, but 112 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. But my plans pre logan were to 113 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: go back to Delaware and my home state, and I 114 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: was going to coach. I was gonna do some stuff 115 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: with my high school. I had an outline of a plan. 116 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: Nothing major, um, but I had a good little setup. 117 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: I had plans with the local software organization, and then 118 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 1: you came into the picture and turned my my plans 119 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: upside down. I throw a little wrench in it. I 120 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: throw a little wrench in it, and we couldn't backtrack. 121 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: When me and actually met, I was on the bench. 122 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: I might have talked about this many times in this podcast, 123 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: but true story, I literally was like the sixth string 124 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: corner on the bench and we started dating, and I 125 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: wanted to transfer, and I actually stayed for the spring 126 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: because of me dating actually meeting her and want to 127 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: see where that went, and to say, you know, let 128 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: me just stick to it. I'm not a quitter, and 129 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: let me just see if I can make this work. 130 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: And we had a coach named Jeff Hapley who's the 131 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: head coach at Boston College now come from pitt and 132 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: he recently coached Derrell Reevers and that right there, you know, 133 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: his coaching of Derrell Reeves and seeing what type of 134 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: player Dearrell Revers was one of my favorite corners at 135 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: the time. But this guy spoke so much positivity and 136 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: confidence in me that I just didn't have. And I 137 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: feel like I always had the work ethic and the drive, 138 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: but I just didn't have the confidence at the time. 139 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: You really need that to play defensive back at a 140 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: college level, at the NFL level, and him come and 141 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: really changed my career. And I went from being on 142 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: the bench talking to the shortstop on a full ride 143 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: on the softball team to you know, declared for the 144 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: NFL Draft in a year or two. So it's a 145 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: really a quick turnaround with Jeff Hafley gets a lot 146 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: of credit, actually gets a ton of credit, a lot 147 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: of tough nights talking to her figure out about this 148 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: football journey, end up getting draft in New England Patriots 149 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: in the third round. Actually makes a decision to come 150 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: move up with your boy, and we ended up going 151 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: to New England. And I know there was a tough 152 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: time at first for you. It was very it was 153 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: two different stories, are two different chapters. I would think 154 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: at that point. I think a lot of people don't understand, 155 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL journey. It's not all rainbows and unicorns, 156 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: as we know about life, but so talk about you know, 157 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: the two different chapters that we were on maybe trajectories 158 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: or whatever that may be. Yeah, So we moved up 159 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: to New England. It was it was exciting. I mean, 160 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: it's a huge moment for the logan. Um. You know, 161 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: I was on board. I was ready to, you know, 162 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: do what it took. I was gonna make my own 163 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: way up there and figure it out. But what I 164 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: didn't realize it was how tough the post athlete transition 165 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: would be. Um. And I think that softball was my 166 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: life for a really long time, and it's it was 167 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: a lot of who I was, and I wasn't so 168 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: sure who I was without it. So moving up there 169 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: and I'm watching you live your dream. You get to 170 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: continue playing your sport, you get to potentially make millions 171 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: playing your sport, and I was supportive and I was 172 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: a little at the same time envious, like I wish 173 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: I could do that, and I'm going to be here 174 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: and support you through it. But I had to figure 175 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: out what the heck I'm gonna do next. So I 176 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: dabbled in some things. I did some personal training. I 177 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: settled in coaching and doing private lessons up there, and 178 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: I really loved and enjoy did that, but it wasn't it, 179 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't the It just didn't fulfill everything 180 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: that I needed to fulfill at the time. So yeah, 181 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: we were on really different paths, and eventually I was like, 182 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: you know what I got I have to figure this out. 183 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: And I ended up taking a job at Problems Animal 184 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: Rescue League, and I didn't tell them who Logan was. 185 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be Logan Ryan's girlfriend, no friends. 186 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: I loved being Logan Ryan's girlfriend, but I didn't want 187 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: that to define who I was. So I took that job. 188 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: Nobody there really knew who you were an animal shelter. 189 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: An animal shelter, yeah, what our life was like outside 190 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: of that. So I was cleaning kennels and changing letter 191 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: boxes and doing really the dirty work. To grunt work 192 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: at the shelter, and what was your income? Oh, I mean, 193 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: I want to say, like twelve to fifteen bucks an hour, 194 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: Like it was minimal, very minimal. And that's animal welfare. 195 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: It's still the case that you don't make much in 196 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: this field, but you do it because you love it. 197 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: And I think I can hear and the viewer might 198 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: not know this, but it's that's why I love you 199 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: so much. As you said something how you refused to 200 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: be just Logan Ryan's girlfriend and you took a job 201 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: at an animal shelter at starting salary, not telling anybody 202 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: who you were. Why that independence? Why the where does 203 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: that come from? Where you don't want to be defined 204 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: as just my girlfriend? You know, I just always I 205 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: wanted to make my own way, and I appreciated what 206 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: you did and I was super proud of what you 207 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: did and who you were. Um, but you know, actually 208 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: is cool too, Actually works hard to you know, I 209 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: have my own thing and I wanted it to stay 210 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: that way, and that's something I want. I'm still in 211 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: our kids and and anybody I'm around just that. Like 212 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, you are great as well. You can do 213 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: your own thing, You can make your own way. I 214 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: don't need to rely on Logan being the superstar athletes 215 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: still too, you know, carve my own path. So that's 216 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I was trying to do. And 217 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just something that's been always been 218 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: really important to me to know that I can rely 219 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: on myself and have a supportive partner and have this 220 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: relationship at the same time. But it wasn't everything. I 221 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: paid the rent, but you paid all your own bills. 222 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: I know, we had separate, separate cell phone bills, separate 223 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: that separate that car. I mean, she wouldn't take nothing 224 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: from me, Honestly, she literally was going to pay our 225 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: own way. We were like two individuals living together like roommates. 226 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: We look and we were also not engaged. We're also 227 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: not married. It was still you know, we've been together 228 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: for a couple of years at the time, but we 229 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: still weren't exactly sure where. You know, we thought, we hey, 230 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: we want to be together, we want to stay together, 231 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: but we didn't know what our future was like. And 232 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: with this huge change, I didn't want to be so 233 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: stuck relying on your income and your career and who 234 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: you are in my own life. That say, we decided 235 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: to go separate paths. I had to be able to 236 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: make it on my own too. Now, did you feel 237 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: like you, as a college athlete or a person who's 238 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: very into pendant, doesn't want to live off of my name, 239 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: doesn't want to tell people who we even date, kind 240 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: of want to go onto the radar and just kind 241 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: of go about life and and find your own path 242 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: and your own reason. Did you find that tough getting 243 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: into the world of NFL wives, the hierarchy of some 244 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: veterans and their wives. Tell me how that made you 245 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: feel as a rookie girlfriend coming into the New England Patriots, 246 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: the top of the top, um, you know, the NFL 247 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: wide hierarchy, how that goes? Yeah, I can't lie. I 248 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: had a hard time with it. Um. I think there 249 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: was so much expectation from I don't know where it 250 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: was from. You know. I think people hear NFL girlfriend, 251 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: NFL wife, wag, all these titles, whatever you wanna call it, 252 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: and expecting me to look and act a certain way, 253 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: and I did not look or act that way. You know, 254 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: the stereotypes. I don't really believe in them, and I 255 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: don't think I think some people love to do those things, 256 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: but I didn't. And you know, if you want to 257 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: dress in those and we're makeup and you know, care 258 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: about these certain things, that's great and some people love 259 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: it and and that's who they are, but it wasn't 260 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: who I am, and it kind of felt like maybe 261 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: that I didn't belong. So you come in, you don't 262 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: really I feel like you fit in. You're in a 263 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: truly a slow moving place. Not slow moving, but I'm 264 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: not a lot going on in Foxborough, mass a lot 265 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: of grace. Guys. It's pretty gloomy, working at an animal slter, 266 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: working at it, working on an animal shelter, chearing your boyfriends, 267 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: starting on the New England Patriots on Sunday, that no 268 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: one even knows you know who you did. So I 269 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: kind of felt it was a very isolating time for you. Yeah, 270 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: it was a transition. I just didn't know, you know. 271 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: I was going through my own transition of trying to 272 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: figure out who I was, what I wanted to do, 273 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: what our relationship was, where that was going, and you 274 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: throw the NFL on top of that, and looking back 275 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: on it, I think it was a little bit unfounded. 276 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I needed to feel those expectations so much, 277 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: and all of those women from New England, I'm still 278 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: friends with so many of them, people who were very 279 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: much like me and people who are complete opposite of me. 280 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: So I think a lot of that expectation came from myself, 281 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: and then I thought I had to be something, but 282 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: that really probably wasn't the case. And I think that 283 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: my first you know, two three years in the as 284 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: an NFL girlfriend wife, would have been much easier if 285 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: I just released that expectation and just would have been me. Yeah, 286 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, as we get into the next story here 287 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: that we're gonna tell, and we fast forward, I'm a 288 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: New York Johan and I signed up miss off training camp. 289 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: I signed a week of the season, and it wasn't playned. 290 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to skip training camp or anything. He 291 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: literally just they had a young safety's Aver McKinney, who 292 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: was a stud end up breaking his foot during training 293 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: camp and they needed another player, and Joe Judge brought 294 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: me in and U and brought me into lead and 295 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: brought me into show these guys what I can do. 296 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: And I really had a good time in that role. 297 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that leadership position. I really enjoyed the 298 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: young guys, and I think our world shifted upside down. 299 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: It's Monday Night football. We're playing Tom Brady, my old 300 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: friend from the Patriots. I intercepted him for Tennessee and 301 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: beat the Patriots. He ends up going to Tampa. He's 302 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: in Tampa. I'm in the Giants, and everything's completely different 303 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: from our lass encounter. And I'm playing him on Monday 304 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: Night Football and I'm part of the game planning. I'm 305 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: trying to run everything to make his life difficult. Um 306 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: from everything I learned in practice, everything he taught me, 307 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying to use against him to the best of 308 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: my ability. And it's a really tight game. It's a 309 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: really close game. We have a very important vote in 310 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: our country at that time, right and during COVID we 311 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: hadn't moved to Florida because we knew we weren't coming 312 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: back to Tennessee, and we bought this dream house in 313 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: Florida in Tampa, and we really wanted to say, hey, 314 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: we're a tight unit. It's very tough leaven Nashville at 315 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: the time. I don't know if I want to live 316 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: here if not a tighten I'm really recognizable in the city. 317 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: I get a lot of love, but it kind of 318 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: hurts not playing here. Let's go somewhere fresh, Let's go 319 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: somewhere together us. We picked Tampa, Florida. Plan was something unrelated, 320 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: unrelated to football, which makes us a little ironic. Now 321 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: wherever where I'm going to retire one day and and 322 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: live life after football, warm sunshine, tax free beaches. There's 323 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: no beaches in Tennessee and close to Disney World. We're 324 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: big Disney people, So that was all in it. Um 325 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: so as she's down in Florida to go vote. And 326 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: while I was important for you to go to Florida 327 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: and vote, it, honestly, I wanted to vote in Florida. 328 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: I know Florida was somewhat of a swing state at 329 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: the time, and um, the election was really important to me, 330 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: and I wanted to go vote in person and make 331 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: my vote count to the best of my ability. So 332 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to be there. I wanted to do it, 333 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: and I wanted to check on our house and maybe 334 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: get a little warm weather in the process. Right, So 335 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: this is right around Halloween. I believe you're in Florida 336 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: with your sister. You're going down at the check on 337 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: our house to go vote. I'm gonna go play this 338 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: game this Monday night football against Tom Brady. Our kids 339 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: are down with my parents down in soft chairs. He's good. 340 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: Benefit of playing for the Jags. My parents are. I 341 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: grew up an hour fifteen minutes from the stadium. She always, 342 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: she always does this thing where I like, don't even 343 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: he underestimated. Yeah, so it's not fifty minutes our She'll say, 344 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: our thirties hour fifteen minutes. Um, So we're good. Our 345 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: kids are here, she's there, I'm there. My parents gonna 346 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: bring the kids to me. The day after the game. 347 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch him, so she gets back cool. We're 348 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: all good. So we remember we like trick or treated 349 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: all that. We go do our thing at the house 350 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: because it was good, Yes, in house tricker treating, and 351 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: I remember it's the it's the late night game. Tom 352 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: Brady does the seam ball. I'm in cover three on 353 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: the post SFET. I have a big hit with Tyler Johnson, 354 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: I believe, and bam, I hit him. He hits me 355 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: right down the scene and it's a tough spot for 356 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: a city because I don't want to hit him in 357 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: his head. Because that's appenalty. I don't want to cut 358 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: his knees out because I'm just not that type of guy. 359 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: So I hit him right in his trunk, in his 360 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: midsection where all his weight is, and I took the 361 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: brunt of the hit. Honestly, I think I I got 362 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: a knee to my thigh. I had the worst ive bruise. 363 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: I went to the I went to the tent. They 364 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: checked me for a concussion. I didn't have a concussion. 365 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: I come back in the game. I'm literally playing on 366 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: one leg. A couple of players on out. They score 367 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Mike Evans catches a touchdown and win the 368 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: game on that play. We played him really well, we 369 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: played him really tight um, but we lost. I go back. 370 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm in the training room. It's again, it's probably midnight 371 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: by the time the game gets done. I'm in the 372 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: training room, and that's when I get a call from you. Yeah. 373 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: So I was home. I think this was the day 374 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: before I was going to vote UM, laying in bed 375 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: and I had felt stomach pain. It felt like crampy 376 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: at first, and it would come and go, and I 377 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: wasn't I didn't think much of it. I took some 378 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: times and I was like, all right, I'm good. But 379 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: by the time your game was over and it was 380 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: time for us to talk, it had gotten really bad. 381 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: And it was intermittent, so it will come and then 382 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: it will go. But the pain had become closer together, 383 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, man, this doesn't feel right. I'm 384 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: on web MD. I'm diagnosing myself with all kinds of stuff. 385 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: But unlike most people who diagnosed themselves, I was kind 386 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: of under diagnosing. I'm like, oh, I think I have 387 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: kidney stones. Like I had no idea, And it was 388 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning, probably by this point, and 389 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: I didn't want to get up and go to the 390 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: e R. I didn't feel that emergent until it did. 391 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: And after both kids you had kidney stones, I didn't. 392 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: So we were used to you having kidneys and it 393 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: was painful and it was terrible, and you called me, 394 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: you said, your stomach is killing me. I'm walking out 395 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: of the park a lot with Justin meyern and who's 396 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: a trainer for the Giants, and he had just take 397 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: care of my thigh Brews. He just took care of 398 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: all my bumps and bruise. I'm the last player to 399 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: leave the facility. I really stayed to get my body 400 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: right to play in a short week. The next week, 401 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: I get the call from Ashley that our stomach is 402 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: killing her. I literally said, hey, let me call it 403 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 1: just I was just with him my nose here, and 404 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, you know, women have a lot of 405 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: different stuff going on down there than man, a lot 406 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: more going on. And you know, I wouldn't take it lightly. 407 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: I would have her go to any er, have to 408 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: get it checked out. I'm like, man, it's midnight, stomach pains. 409 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: Can she just go to sleep? Can she just sleep 410 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: on ship? Yeah? And he really advised not too. He's 411 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: talking the phone. We had a decision. I said, ash 412 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: you know he's advising just just go, like, just be safe, 413 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: let's just go. So she ends up. Luckily, my sister 414 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: was with me last minute. She decided to fly down 415 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: with me, and so I call her in the middle 416 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: of night. She's upstairs and she's like, okay, I'm coming. 417 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: We go to just the local urgent care because again 418 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that serious, and they admit me, 419 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: start running all the tests, go through all their questions. Um, 420 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: it takes some blood work that was the first thing 421 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: they feel around my Abdominalaria asked where the pain is, 422 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: and you know, the one question he asked like, okay, well, 423 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: is there any chance that you're pregnant? And I said 424 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: absolutely not. I'm you know, on a contraceptive. There's just 425 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: that much of a chance. So he's like okay. So 426 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: he's thinking about what it may be and he's like, 427 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: all right, let's wait, get blood work back and we'll 428 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: determine maybe why you're feeling this pain if whever it 429 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: comes back. And he goes back in the room, he says, hey, 430 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: can I talk to you in private? I thought we 431 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: were in private. My sister was there. I'm like, no, 432 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: she's flying, she can hear anything. And he's like, okay, 433 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: you're pregnant, which was shocked to the system because we 434 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: didn't think that was possible. Um, well, yeah, definitely not 435 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: planning actually planning not to be pregnant. We're taking the 436 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: precautions not to be And it was less than one 437 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: percent chance that I could be pregnant, was the iu 438 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: D that I had, And there we were less than 439 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: one percent. I get a call from her sister. Was 440 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: it you? I got a call? Yeah, I get a 441 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: call from you. It's got to be one or two 442 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: in the morning. At this point, I'm just winding down. 443 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: It's really hard to fall asleep from me after games, 444 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: just because you're so amped up. But I was really 445 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: tired after this game. I'm laying down in bed, Uh 446 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: mind you getting up early for my kids to come 447 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: back home or whatever and and handle that. And I 448 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: get a call, Hey, we're pregnant. I'm like, what what 449 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: do you mean we're pregnant. Yeah, we're pregnant. And I'm like, hey, okay, 450 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm at peace with it, like all right, at least 451 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: we know the stomach pain is coming from. And she said, yeah, 452 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get out of here and I'm gonna call 453 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: you in the morning and then we can, you know, 454 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: tell people when it's time or whatever. But that's what 455 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: it is. So I'm like going to bed. I think 456 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: about what life's like with three gonna be with life's 457 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: like with three kids? Yeah, I think that we we 458 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: weren't expecting it, but it was where we were good 459 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: with it. It It was it was good news. That's you know, 460 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: a child is generally not bad news. So we were excited. 461 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: We went he went to bed happy, and it was 462 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: all call in the morning, and then my brain started 463 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: going like, wait a second, I've been pregnant. Pregnancy doesn't 464 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: hurt like this, you know, like, Oh, We're just going 465 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: to do an ultrasound check everything. And at that point 466 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: I kind of knew. Once I was in the ultrasound, 467 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: I knew something was up. Um. The tech was very quiet. 468 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: She I was asking the questions and she just kept saying, well, 469 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: I can't you know, I can't answer that for you, 470 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: you know, I'd wait for the doctor and uh. And 471 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: when she was performing the ultrasound, it was very painful. 472 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, something's going on. By the 473 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: time I got back to my room, I was in 474 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: pretty much constant pain. All the time. They were giving 475 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: me some serious drugs. They were not touching the pain. 476 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: And it turned out that the pregnancy was a topic. 477 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: So it was in plants. It in the Filippian two. 478 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't viable and I needed emergency surgery. They said 479 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: yesterday essentially as fast as possible to take care of it, 480 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: because these things can go downhill very quickly, so they 481 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: had to transmit over to the actual emergency room. I'm 482 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: in an ambulance and that's when like everything kind of 483 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: went crazy. It was super painful, everything, every bump the 484 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: ambulance hit, it was painful. I was begging the guy 485 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: in the ambulance to give me something else. I'm like, plea, 486 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: use it to start so bad. And by the time 487 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 1: I got in the room at the emergency room, I 488 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: could barely talk like it was. The pain was that bad. 489 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: I asked my sister to help me stand up to 490 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: go to the bathroom and I couldn't lean forward enough 491 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom. Um, to even get up, 492 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, so they were right. It did go downhill 493 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: very quickly. It ended up that my tube had ruptured 494 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: at some point from A to B and the surgery 495 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: was super emergent at that point. And honestly, the rest 496 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: is a blurb of pain and pain meds. And the 497 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: next thing I know, I'm waking up from surgery and 498 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: it was told it was a success, and um, I 499 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: had to spend a good week or two recovering, but 500 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: I was okay to fly home on Sunday and that 501 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: was that. Yeah, So let mean rewind a little bit 502 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: perspective and get my point of view again. This is 503 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: a crazy story because so many different perspectives. But I 504 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: go to bed thinking that we're going to have our 505 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: third kid, and I was very excited, um and it 506 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: kind of took the pain away that I was feeling 507 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: from the bumps and brutis from the game. I get 508 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: a call maybe an hour into my sleep, three three 509 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: thirty from her sister, Hey lo Um Ashley is having 510 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: a topic pregnancy and her Filipian two just ruptured and 511 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: she's bleeding and she's going into emergency surgery and she's 512 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: an ambulance and they got to do this procedure to 513 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: save her life. And I'm like caught on what wait, wait, wait, 514 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: And I'm literally like in the middle of a sleep 515 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: kind of trying to process everything. And it just went 516 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: from a feeling of we're gonna have a baby too, 517 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: We're not having a baby and my wife may die 518 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: um very quickly, and I'm thinking worried about the kids, 519 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: what about this? What about that? And what about my wife? 520 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: And what about the season, and just so many thoughts 521 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: run to my head. And I said, all right, just 522 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: keep me, like, keep me posted as fast as possible, 523 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: let me know, And like she says, she gets she's 524 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: In the end, she's in the back of an ambulance. 525 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: Your stuff ruptures, right, what rupture for? Open to rupture? 526 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: You're bleeding, internal bleeding. They go into emergency surgery. They 527 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: end up saving your life. Obviously the baby was not salvageable. 528 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: We lose the baby, and you make it through the night, 529 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: and me and you don't talk maybe until because of 530 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: the surgery. So we probably don't talk until nine or 531 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: ten the next morning. I don't sleep at all. From 532 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: at three o'clock. I'm waiting to get the call her 533 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: sister telling me everything went um. The doctor said a success. 534 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: Around seven or eight, I can get to talk to 535 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: her until later. You're kind of on pain meds. We're talking. 536 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: I had to call my parents and say they have 537 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: to watch the kids until I figure out what's going on. 538 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: And me and you talk and I don't. I just 539 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: think we don't know how to feel. Honestly, I think 540 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm obviously very happy that I didn't lose you um, 541 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: obviously was very sad that we lost a baby, and 542 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 1: very very helpless that I can't not there. I end 543 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: up calling Joe Judge that morning. Again, haven't slept more 544 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: than one hour to the situation. Hey Joe, here's what's happening. Um, 545 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: you know, I don't I think I have to go 546 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: with Florida. And I don't know if I go to 547 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: Florida because what about the protocol in COVID And will 548 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: I'll be able to return to this bubble that we 549 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: kind of have to play And I might miss the 550 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: next game and I'll see if I can come back 551 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: for the second one. And and he's like, logan, logan, logan, 552 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: wait wait wait, wait wait, He's like, your family comes 553 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: first and you need to go be with your wife. 554 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: And if you don't play another game this season, I 555 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: will understand. And you got the permission from me to 556 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: do so. And that meant a lot. Man, I think 557 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: we're still healing. I don't. I don't even think we're healed. 558 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. When you're ever held, it's a piece 559 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: of you that's always missing. And that's the thing. And 560 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: I really felt I think we really felt a lot 561 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: of affects the following season. I think this past season 562 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: we really felt that when things kind of got back 563 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: to normal for us, it's and it's like, okay, well 564 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: that was last year, Like you should be good now. 565 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: I can't always say that I felt there mentally at 566 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: times because of what the trauma that we went through, 567 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: and we realized we're running off a lot of adrenaline, 568 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, for months. Yeah, my wife is at a 569 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: commission essension for four weeks in our house, four or 570 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: five weeks with two surgeries back to back, trying to 571 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: just get back to walking, trying to get back to 572 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: you couldn't pick up our son for for two months, 573 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: my mom leaving her job. There were vocation of that household, 574 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: her sister leaving work, everything that it took to support 575 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: us just even play that season. I was exhausted, you 576 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: know when the season got over, um, and kind of 577 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: a little bit because of just everything we've been through 578 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: and kind of just going back to reality. So it's 579 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: definitely a process where I feel for everybody who's also 580 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: a child. Um, it is not something that is that 581 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: is just you get over. It's something that kind of 582 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: lives with you. And I think we're able to channel 583 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: it to to do some good. Yeah, And I think 584 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: in perspective shifts a little bit. You know, you we were, 585 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the gratitude was a real we were we 586 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: were living differently after this happened, and you know, it's 587 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: sad to think that something like this has to happen 588 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: for you to live that way. But man, we still 589 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: to this day, I think, are living very differently and 590 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: see life very differently and appreciate so much the people 591 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 1: who were there for us to that process. And you know, 592 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: your mom and well your dad, your family justed, my dad, 593 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: my sister, Joe, Joe and Amber Judge and the way 594 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: they handled that they didn't have to do they didn't 595 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: have to do anything. And I didn't know any of 596 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: the wives yet. It was COVID and we weren't even 597 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: allowed to associate with each other. And Amber, you know, 598 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: was checking in on me constantly and sending things and 599 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: do you need something, and we barely knew each other, 600 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: and that has turned into a really great friend for me. 601 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: And obviously you and Joe were close, and regardless of 602 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: what happens on the football field, that was our experience 603 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: with the Giants and I'm grateful for it. Look, man, 604 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: it's it's This is obviously a shout out to the 605 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: Mother's and Mother's Day. And I've been with you so 606 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: we were twenty years old, became parents together, we've had 607 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: kids together. We had a kid born in Boston, had 608 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: a kid born in Tennessee, and we lost a kid 609 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: in Florida, New York. Um. We've lost them, we've had them, 610 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: We've been through a lot. What's the overall perspective that 611 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: you gained into being a mother and Mother's Day? I 612 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: think for me especially, I mean, through all of that, 613 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: it's just too you know, put your all into what 614 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: you're doing as a parent. And you know, we have 615 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: two kids and we are what they rely on to learn, 616 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: and we're we are the main teachers of these tiny 617 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: little human beings who then get to go out into 618 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: the world and navigate it the same way we were 619 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: figuring out. So I think just preparing them the best 620 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: we can and look, like you said, it's not rainbows 621 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: and unicorns all the time. There's tough things. There's tough days. 622 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: There's some days where I don't want to fight outo 623 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: to go to bed for an hour like we you know, 624 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: did last and I don't want to have to do 625 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: these things. We've got to do it anyway and do 626 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: the best you can through it and just give your 627 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: kids all the tools that they need to go navigate 628 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: the same things that we've been through or you know, 629 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: the things that they're going to go through in their lives. 630 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: So whended like this, we obviously gave our daughter a 631 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: bad rapple. This episode made it seem like she was 632 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: just a terrible baby. But she's awesome. She's playing softball now, 633 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: so mom's coaching. Dad is in the stance hyping them 634 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: up straight spirit squad, And it's kind of full circle. 635 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: We met because we're both athletes. She was the baddest 636 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: and at Rutgers and and and a stud and I 637 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: wanted to see what that or was about and get 638 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: around and see if I can talk my way into 639 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: get a date with her, and I did, And now 640 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: to have our daughter play, it's just surreal. Also actually 641 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: at me a picture of the day. I'm in Florida 642 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: training during the during the week, she's up in New 643 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: Jersey while the kids are in school again separated again. 644 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: It's what this business brings sometimes and it is the 645 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: hardest part for us as being a part um. But 646 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: so you taught avery, so so you can explain it. 647 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: What did you teach it? What was I think, in 648 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: like teacher terms called regrouping in math, where you carry 649 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 1: the number essentially UM. She was trying to learn how 650 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 1: to add to your number. She's in first grade, they 651 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: hadn't learned it yet. So I taught her on a 652 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: white board and she came back to Jersey and went 653 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: to school and was the teacher sent me a picture 654 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: of her in front of the class teaching them all 655 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: how to do it. So that was that was a 656 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: moment for all of us. And it's pretty awesome. And 657 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: Avery is a little shy. She gets a little nervous 658 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: to be in front. She couldn't do this right now. 659 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: She's a little nervous talking in front of people and 660 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: even to her own classmates. So to see her doing 661 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: that and be so confident in it was like a 662 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: huge unting moment for us. And that's what that's what 663 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: parent is about. Is is your your kids teacher, and 664 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: you teach them ultimately how to be human beings. And 665 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: I think we have each other lean on and hold 666 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: each other accountable in terms of being good human beings, 667 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: but also our kids. And for you to teach her 668 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: something um in one day and then her to stand 669 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: in front of class and teach her whole classmates that 670 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: I think it kind of brought it all full circle 671 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: for us because we were kids when we met and 672 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: clearly so. Uh but yeah, man, that's it. My favorite 673 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: guest us far. Obviously we had some you know, intimate 674 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: personal stories there of losing a child Azzy obviously and 675 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: um having children, UM, balancing the NFL with all that. Um, 676 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: just a little perspective of how I operate as a 677 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: player and as a human being out there, and hope 678 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: you guys can see me more than just a player 679 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: and just a safety for a team and how many 680 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings I have, but also everything else that 681 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: goes around it and what that takes and the sacrifice 682 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: that takes day in and day out. Um, but the 683 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 1: team that you need, and I have a great team. 684 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: I got a great teammate with me. So this was 685 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: a fun one. I appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate you 686 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: guys for listening and stay tuned. We have a lot 687 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: more good ones coming up. Great guest list, and I'm 688 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: rejuvenate and I'm ready to keep going and keep knocking 689 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: us a great episode, So appreciate it. Thanks for joining 690 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: us on the NFL Players Podcast. Don't forget to subscribe 691 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: and follow at NFL Players Podcast on Instagram for the 692 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: latest players stories and to connect with the NFL Players community.