WEBVTT - Getting Real with Lexi 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.240 Hey, everyone, welcome back to Beat your Happy Hour. I'm 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.320 Joe and I'm Serena and we are here with Lexi 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:09.479 from Joey Sincy. Hi Lexi, Hi Lexi. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:12.760 Hey guys, your hair looks so good. You get it 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:13.400 done recently? 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:14.600 Thank you. 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.120 Yes, I actually just got it done when I came back. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.000 I talked about this on my Instagram. But I had 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:24.480 a bit of a hair fiasco when I was in 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:29.200 the mansion. Some reason my hair turned red, which you know, 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:33.199 we love redheads, but like it was two red stripes 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.040 at the front. So when I was on the show, 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:40.879 luckily Jess had men's beard dye for her eyebrows and 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.239 let me use it to color correct. So my hair 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.320 is a lot darker on the show than it is usually. 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.320 But it's a funny story. 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:53.400 So I just went, oh, my god, use men's I 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:55.880 didn't know. I have friends that dye their eyebrows, and 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.160 usually they just use boxed hair dye. I've never heard 0:00:58.200 --> 0:00:59.640 of anyone using beard dye. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:00.880 Yeah, just for men. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.080 But I guess that would make sense because it is 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.200 like hair on your face. 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.240 Right right. So God blessed Jess for having that, and 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.440 it was like dark, dark brown it's a funny story. 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.959 Wait, why so I've heard of I've had friends who 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.399 have gone blonde and then like hard water will make 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.840 it look green. But I've never Are you a natural redhead? 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:22.319 Was it like stripping your eyelights? 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:23.759 Something was happening. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.720 I'm naturally pretty dark brown, so I think it was 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:28.760 just like getting the highlights right before the show and 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.039 then using the water out there. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.160 Or maybe I don't know. Something something happens that's good. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.560 Crazy, I would be freaking out. I can't beieve they 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.200 couldn't get you like boxed hair dyed. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:40.960 You know it's a they tried their best. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.160 Yeah, well you had the beard dye, thank god? 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:44.240 So thank god. 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:46.920 You know my beard actually used to come in a 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:51.840 little red. What Yeah, no, it does it now I 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.200 have Now they come in Now they come in gray 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:54.960 on my chant. 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.320 Ottle salt and peppery. Yeah, well maybe you should head 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:58.880 of Jess for her box beard died. 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.320 I don't know if I would die my beard. I don't. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.400 I don't keep it long enough to die it. 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.760 I feel like you have to have a significant amount 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:06.920 of hair to be dying. Like I feel like it's 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:08.160 for people who have a full beard. 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:09.960 Why are you coming right now? 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.840 What are you talking about coming? You say, I think 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:15.720 it's people who have like a full gray beard. I 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.400 want to dye it brown. So that's not great. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.200 I'm gonna just I'm going to lean into the salt 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:20.639 and pepper. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.120 You should you lean in cult public and Lexi, you 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:24.000 can stay away from you. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:29.520 Isn't about me though, Solexi, where do you live? 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.560 I currently am in Atlanta, Georgia, col. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:37.880 And you you said on on one of these episodes 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.240 that you moved to San Francisco for work and then 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.680 you moved to New York. So what do you do 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:46.280 and what what happened there? 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.520 Yeah, so I've I've lived all over actually originally from Toronto. 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:54.799 But I Toronto, I had to say, and I had 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.400 to say it too Ontario. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:02:59.440 Oh nice. 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.200 Yeah, So my family's all up there, my extended family, 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.359 but we ultimately moved down to the States for my 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.760 dad's job. So I ended up in Ohio for a 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.160 while and then yeah, after school, moved out to San 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.240 Francisco for work. I worked at the Gap when I 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.120 was out there, but I work in digital marketing and 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:21.160 digital strategy, so I work on their websites. I came 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.400 down with a lot of illness when I was in 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.680 San Francisco with my health and so ultimately made the 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.280 decision to move back to New York to be closer 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.360 to my family. And GAP also had a headquarters in 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.720 New York, so it just made sense at the time. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:36.360 So yeah, that's how I ended up in the city. 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.200 And do you still work for GAP now? 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.040 I don't work for GAP now. 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.040 I work for another large retail company in Atlanta doing 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:45.000 the same type of work. 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:45.400 Yeah. 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:46.880 Do you like Atlanta? 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:48.680 I like Atlanta. 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.080 It was a huge culture shock moving down here, like 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.640 being originally from Canada and then living on both coasts. 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.560 Moving to Atlanta was kind of crazy. It's super southern obviously, 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.560 and then like everyone here gets married at like twenty two, 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.160 so I was this like black sheet moving down here 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.360 single at like twenty nine. So I like it, but 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:09.040 it's different. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:13.400 Yeah, that San Francisco has an exact opposite, it makes 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:18.200 me exact opposite. Literally, Yeah really might Okay? Cool? And 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.160 how did you How did you get on The Bachelor? 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.480 It's a bit of a long story, but long story short, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.280 I was originally supposed to go on and went through 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.680 the casting process for Peter season. 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.400 And so wow a few years. 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.599 Yeah, which when I look back, I wouldn't have been 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.760 ready to do that at that point in my life 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:37.159 and age. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:38.760 So I'm so glad it happened when it did. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:43.240 But I had just had my endometriosis surgery, so it 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.559 wasn't the right time for me with filming. And then 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.039 I got in contact with a producer and they told 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:50.760 me it was going to be Joey and I was like, 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.760 this is so serendipitous, and I think he's such a 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.840 great guy. I just turned thirty, like why not. So 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.920 it's kind of crazy that Peter to Joey, like it's 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.120 I don't know. The whole thing was very full circle, that. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.200 Is you hear you hear some stories like that, Like 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.200 I think Caitlin Bristow was also something that was like 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.680 in casting for someone's season, we had like almost on 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.960 the show and then something happened or like she didn't 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:15.960 get on and then gets onto another season. I just 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.040 feel like it always falls the way it's supposed to exactly. 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.520 I want to pronounce this correctly, so I don't son 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:23.480 a fucking war on. 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.000 But you could do it. I could do it. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.039 I could do this, okay, So when you talk about 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.680 your endometriosis. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.400 You could say and I could just call it endo 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:33.880 ye ye Okay. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.240 I love that, Okay, So not that I don't love it. 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.920 But so when you had your ENDO surgery, how old 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:42.280 were you? 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.919 I had my surgery in twenty nineteen, so I just 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:48.920 turned thirty. So yeah, I would have been twenty five 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.760 twenty six, And so that was a time period for 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.560 me that was crazy and like I said going on 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.080 the show, it wouldn't have been possible, but so grateful 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:59.640 that I did have the surgery when I was living 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:00.240 in New York. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.680 What was the process like, because I know you said 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.279 it took about a year and a half to have 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.920 it diagnosed, which correct me wrong, but I believe that's 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:10.640 not totally uncommon. 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:13.800 No, you're yeah, you're exactly right. So really it was 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.280 ten years of me like in pain and not knowing 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.480 what was going on with my body. And then things 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.039 got a lot worse when like the back half of 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.400 San Francisco and when I moved to New York and 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.400 I just started going to so many different doctors appointments, 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.440 and like I was diagnosed with things I didn't even have, 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.920 Like I was diagnosed with autoimmune disorders and taking medications 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.960 for them, and I didn't have it, and I was 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.560 turned away from that, so so crazy. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.960 Like women, on average, it takes ten years to get 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.719 a diagnosis, per end of so like that's that was 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.120 my timeline and it's so sad to hear that. And 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.599 a lot of the times doctors will turn you to 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.600 like a psychiatrist or almost make you believe that your 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.599 pain is in your head because it has to be 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:00.279 diagnosed surgically. So it's that even adds another like of 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.440 complexity to get a diagnosis. So for me, it was 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.760 a lot of being like turned away kind of given 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.520 medication to treat me for something I didn't have. And 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.120 then I even started to doubt my pain and I 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:13.200 was like, is this even real? 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.200 Is this something in my head? Just because I was 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:16.800 shut down so many times. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:22.360 That's so frustrating and it's just so scary that you 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.840 know you have to wait ten years to get diagnosial 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.040 something that you're probably like, I could have been treating 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.880 this ten years earlier. I can imagine too. By the 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.800 time the surgery option comes around, It's like, on one hand, 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.560 you're like, I'll do anything to figure out what's going 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.040 on with me. But on the another you're probably like, 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:44.680 I've had so many inaccurate diagnoses that diagnoses diagnosisis not diagnoses, 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.560 you know what I meant, but that it's like, is 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.920 this just going to be another dead end? Like it's 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.920 it's got It must have been so emotionally and physically 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:55.520 draining for you. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:56.840 It was. 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.240 I remember walking into NYU that day, because you don't 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.080 know until you wake up from the surgery if you 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.480 have it or not, and I remember thinking do I 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.960 want to have this or do I not? Like do 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:10.800 you like it's a weird thing because like I've gone 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.640 through ten years of pain and multiple years of going 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.960 to appointments, and I felt like I finally kind of 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.040 had an answer. This doctor had a really strong hunch 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.400 I had it. But then I was like, wait a second, 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.760 the reality of actually having it is a whole other 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.760 thing to deal with, So I didn't. I didn't really 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.120 even know how to feel, like am I going to 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.520 be happy after this? Like if I go through the 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.480 surgery and I don't have it, I'm just at another 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:32.000 dead end. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.760 So yeah, it's really it plays with your mind. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.280 What has your journey like has. What has your journey 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.560 been like since being diagnosed. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.319 It's it's been an uphill battle. 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.480 If I'm being honest, I have, you know, good weeks 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.840 and I have really bad weeks. I've been on so 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.280 many different medications to try to get it into a 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.679 place where it's controllable. I am at the point right 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.360 now where they want me to have a second surgery. 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.400 A lot of time women have two or three, but 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.600 because I'm thirty, they want me to have it as 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.960 close as possible to when I want to conceive. And 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:10.959 the reason for that is because they go in and 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:14.079 clean up all that tissue that's not supposed to be there, 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.200 so it puts you in like an optimal state to 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.439 have a child. That is really hard for me because 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:23.160 the only solve is something I can't even do at 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.240 this moment in time. And the reason they don't want 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.320 you to have too many surgeries is because they cause 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.280 a lot of scar tissue. And so just right now, 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.040 I kind of feel like I'm being pushed into a 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.480 corner of just having to power through the pain and 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:36.960 make the most of it. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:38.760 But uh, it is challenging. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.920 Yeah, that's got to be such a hard decision because 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.560 you're really I'm assuming like you're probably advised by doctors, 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.640 but you have to probably make the decision evidably if 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.360 you're going to have the surgery and then potentially you 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.839 just have to have another surgery when you are ready 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.280 to have children, or if you're going to power through 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.800 the pain so that you don't have to have as 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.640 many surgeries. Like, there's not a clear right answer there. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.040 There's not, And I just froze my eggs. 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.199 Actually I had the surgery for that a few weeks 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.679 before I went on the show, which, thank you, that 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.960 came with a lot of its own issues, but that 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.600 I'm trying my best to do everything I can to 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:14.480 become a mother. 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.920 That's what I've wanted my whole life. But yeah, you're 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:17.559 exactly right. 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.560 Do you feel like the medical field now today, in 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:28.199 twenty twenty four is better detecting this opposed to ten 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.800 years ago. Are we kind of in the same place 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.360 of it's still very hard for it to get be 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:38.000 detected in women? Yeah, it's still going through that. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:38.880 That's a great question. 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.040 I would like to say that I would like to 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.360 say the diagnosis process has gotten better. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:44.760 I don't think it has. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:50.199 I think what's gotten better is the technology to. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:49.520 Like an MRI. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.320 Now you can have where they can see if there's abnormalities. 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.600 It can't diagnose it, but it can at least point 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.960 in the direction that you might have something going on there, 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.680 which gives woman more confidence to have a surgery. However, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.600 I still think like it's so I've posted on Instagram 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.160 about my experience and I got I think almost like 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.600 a thousand messages from women saying to me that I've 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:14.040 had the exact same experience. I'm currently in the process 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.000 of fighting for a diagnosis, Like I've gone to ten 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.800 plus appointments. No one's taking me seriously, so it's not 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.079 spoken about enough, and I don't I really don't think 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:25.880 it's changed that much, which is disheartening. 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.720 Yeah, I feel like, and I mean this is not endo, 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:34.000 but I someone in my life has PCOS and they 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.040 had a similar experience, where like there's a lot of 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.440 women's health issues. I feel like that the story is 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.400 connected to where it's like, it took me years for 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.360 someone to finally diagnose me with this, and I was 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.800 doing treatments that were actually like harming what I was 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.680 like actually had and yes, yeah. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.640 Yes, I went through bladder installations, which is I don't 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.120 need to get into the whole thing, but where they 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.280 like put like an acidic thing like. 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:58.960 Through your urethruck it. 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.600 I was crying, screaming and pain because they thought I 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.000 had a condition with my bladder, and like, I have 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.360 nothing wrong with my bladder. And like the fact I 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.040 went through that for six months, Like it's traumatic to me. 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.840 So I have a lot of crazy Yeah. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:14.880 Yeah, and it's just like the fact that doctor did it, 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.040 like all of the above, it's it's scary. 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.079 Yeah, a major flaw. Yeah, how does it affect you 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:22.920 on a day to day scale? 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.400 On a day to day scale, like it's so unpredictable. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.240 Some days I'll have flares and like I'll look four 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.880 or five months pregnant from like swelling. Some days I'll 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.679 have horrible or back pain. I mean, it hits me 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.560 out of nowhere. I've become really good at managing it. So, 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.720 I mean, I work a really demanding job, like I'm 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.120 sitting at a desk all day. So I'm not going 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.360 to lie like it comes with its challenges and I 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.760 don't probably live the exact same life as someone who 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.440 wouldn't be dealing with this, But I've gotten to a 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.080 place now where, like I'm so strong mentally that I 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.200 just pushed through. I like take really good care of 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.520 my health. That helps to a degree, but it's one 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.960 of those things that's it's never leaving my life. There's 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:04.240 no cure, and so I've just learned how to like 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.120 have a better attitude about it and like make the 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:08.840 most of every day even though I have a little 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:09.640 bit of a handicap. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:15.079 Is Stage five the most severe stage. 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.800 So I actually so there's technically four stages of endo, 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.439 and on the show, I said five, it's four and 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.440 five are like five is kind of a new stage 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.160 that they're talking about. For me, I had endo growing 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.480 on my lung and so since it spread to like 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.440 an organ outside of my pelvis, I'm kind of four 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:37.880 or five. Stage four is technically the most severe phase 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.800 within your pelvis, and that just means that, like there's 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.599 a lot of adhesion, so like your uterus could be 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.439 attached to both ovaries. There's a lot of large thiss 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.679 and so even I like to preface though someone with 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.839 stage one could have equal pain as someone as stage four, 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.840 it's just how much the actual tissue has spread. It 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.000 doesn't mean that you're like in more pain or life 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:01.440 pain at a different stage. 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:06.720 But if it gets detected at stage one, is it 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.760 curable or is it like. 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:09.880 It's it's not. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.320 But I do think you could take actions with like 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.400 certain hormones and getting ahead of your surgery. 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.600 Like for me, when they went in, it was so bad. 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.160 Like I think if they had gone in maybe three 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.800 years prior, like it wouldn't maybe have spread to my lung, 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.200 Like maybe I wouldn't have had so many adhesions. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.960 Yeah, right, which, like that's another layer to it, I'm 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.840 sure is like the fact that it takes so long 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.360 means that it ends up being so much more severe 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.960 in the women when it does get detected. Yeah, exactly, 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:45.760 it's so frustrating. Okay, so yeah you get on the show. 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.800 We lost track, but I'm glad we're talking about this. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:50.840 Obviously it was a big part of your one on 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:52.920 one day, which we will touch on as well in 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.760 this podcast and just talk more about you know, what 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.720 it was like opening up to Joey about do you 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.480 refer to it as a condition in what how do 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:02.240 you do it? 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:07.600 I always say, yeah, a condition disease. I think for 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.720 me it's just something I deal with every day. But yeah, 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.360 I opened up to him about my condition and how 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:14.120 it impacts me. 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:19.040 Yeah, okay, gotcha. Okay, Well let's do I want? 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.040 Yeah, you step out of the limo, How you feeling, 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:25.720 What are your thoughts? What do you think about Joey 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:26.680 is your type? 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:28.280 Yeah? 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:31.640 I was so nervous obviously that whole day leading up 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.120 to it, But when I stepped at the limo, I 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.960 felt I know, it sounds so cheesy, but like I 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.800 did feel immediately at ease because he has such a 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.000 chill personality and like demeanor that as soon as I 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.040 walked up to him, I kind of felt like I 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.000 know about this guy, like this is our first date 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.440 kind of I don't know, just felt very like an 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.000 initial intro, not like oh I'm on the Bachelor, and 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.320 there's all these cameras and lights, like it was really 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:55.840 just the two of us in that moment. 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.600 Very special. He was so kind. But then I walked 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.920 in the house and I realized I was the first one, 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:03.960 and so like that was a. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:07.360 Bit of a shock more than meeting Joey. I was like, oh, okay, 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.680 that was I'm glad I knew that after. 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.000 Yeah, that's so interesting. I always because sometimes they'll show 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.160 someone come out of the lemo, but they're not necessarily 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.320 the first one that actually came out of the lemo. Yeah, 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:28.240 like the little switch you through. But yeah, but I 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.160 feel like that's exciting because you probably like, Okay, I'm 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.800 the first girl in his mind tonight, which is kind 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:34.480 of cool. But I also would have been happy to 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:35.240 not know that. 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.280 Before saying I'm so glad they didn't tell me before, 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.000 because I think I would have been like, I got 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:41.960 to really pull it together, like he's been waiting for 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:43.440 this for months, like I gotta. 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:45.640 I don't even know. I don't know. It's for the. 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.840 Best, for the best. So how does night one go? 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.320 I know, it's like the longest night ever, but we 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:52.400 get to talk to him. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.000 You guys know, it's a long night. I mean I 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.120 didn't anticipate it being that long, so it was. It 0:16:58.160 --> 0:16:59.800 was a long night. I got really lucky and got 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:01.520 to talk to him. Not everyone did, so I was 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.680 fortunate for that. I gave him a ball marker from 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:06.680 the golf course my dad and I play in Hill 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:11.400 and Head, so he seemed excited that I golfed, and yeah, 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:12.480 we had a good talk. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.520 We kissed, which I was not expecting. 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.640 Like all my friends back at home were like, what 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.560 this kind of off brand for me. I'm a little 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:23.280 like stand offish until I trust someone. But I guess 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.119 the trust that was already kind of there. I just 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.000 felt safe around him. But yeah, night when there was 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:29.800 stuff going on, but I kind of just kept to 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.879 myself and was nervous for the roast ceremony. But I 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:34.880 felt good about our talk. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.080 Nice, feel like that's like all you can ask for 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.520 out of night, Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:44.920 And then before so before currently you get your one 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.919 on one what's your connection? Like are you are you 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.600 able to spend any time with Joey? How's it going? 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:52.480 Yeah? It was going well. 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.280 I got to talk to him at the talent show 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.000 a little bit before we went out or excuse me, 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.920 the pageant, and I got to talk to him that evening. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.400 So yeah, let's talk about the paget because missus right, 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:05.640 Oh my god. 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:11.520 Yeah that was so Yeah, I did I did, I should. Yeah. 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.040 There was a little animosity surrounding the kiss. 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.520 How the kiss heard around the world. Yeah, there was 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.760 some animosity for sure, which I'm so conflict adverse, Like 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.200 I was like, it's fine, like someone else take the crown, 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:30.000 Like all good. I understand, you know, I think some 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.480 girls poured their heart and soul. They were doing flips 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.960 and cartwheels and singing, and I mean, they're all so talented. 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.240 I just stood there, but I was trying to think 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.800 of something that I could do to show him I 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:43.800 do come out of my shell and like I am 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.360 fun and bubbly. I'm not this like super quiet, serious, 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:48.360 reserved person. 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.080 I think because I was nervous. That's how I had 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.439 been coming across. So I was like, let's do it. 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.600 Why not? You know, I took a tequila shot before, 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:58.880 but I did it. No. 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.840 I liked it. I liked that your talent incorporated him 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.440 into it. I think that's always nice to like get 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:08.680 him involved. And like I said, when we were capping, 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.080 and I was like, you know what, sometimes you gotta 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.760 work smarter, not harder. Just because she wasn't upside down 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:15.800 doesn't mean she didn't have a good talent. 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.560 Yeah, the other girls did great, so we all it 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:18.920 was fun. 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.600 Did you do you have like a favorite group date 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.639 activity like that you've done up until this point? 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.160 Up until this point, I think the wedding was fun 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.760 because one, I've just never thought i'd be in a 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.360 wedding dress before my wedding day. And then we all 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.080 got to have individual time with him to work the room. 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.040 At the reception, they didn't show everyone's but that was 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:44.080 like our second time actually talking and it felt comfortable 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.160 because it was just the two of us, like walking around, 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.359 we went to the bar. So I thought the wedding 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.199 was fun, that the pageant was really out of my 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.639 comfort zone, and then there was more group dates that 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.280 were a little more my speed further through this season. 0:19:56.119 --> 0:20:00.200 Nice. Yeah, the pageant, the gimmicky ones are always a 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:01.120 little more awkward. 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.520 Yeah, there's I'm just like, oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:06.920 definitely an awkward person, So like being in that environment 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:08.000 just like an answer. 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:12.280 Yeah, no, it's it's tough. 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.080 But I give those date planners credit because they always 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.080 they come together so well. But in the moment, you're 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.040 kind of like, all right, we're doing this, but then 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:21.679 you see it and you're like, this is awesome. 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:22.880 Yeah. 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:28.000 So we get to Malta and you get your one 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:31.280 on one date with Joey, were you like, did you 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.000 have a sense that like maybe it was going to 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:36.000 be you that week, like your time was maybe coming 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:37.200 or were you totally surprised. 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.359 Well, there's there's two pieces to this story. So the 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.359 first one is my luggage was lost. Upon arriving in Malta, 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:47.080 I was like, look, Joey's amazing. I want to be 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.119 on a date this week. Just whatever you do, do 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.520 not put me on a date tomorrow. Like I don't 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:53.480 have any of my stuff. I was the only girl. 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:57.600 It's just very like of course, uh and so's it 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.160 was funny when they called my name. I was like, 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:01.919 you know, I was really excited, and they ended up 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.880 finding my luggage, so it all worked out. But it 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.639 was just like I wasn't really prepared for at the 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:11.080 night before because of that conversation. So like I didn't like, 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.600 I didn't self tan, I didn't take a shower, like 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:15.439 little things that I would do if I knew I 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:16.480 was having gome on on one. 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:17.760 But as soon as. 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:20.800 I like got there with Joey, I was like, this 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:22.120 is I mean, it was the best day ever. 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:26.440 Yeah, no, it looks that's actually funny. On on my season, 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.960 Michelle Young, they she lost a piece of luggage and 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.679 like was never to be found, like it wasn't. It 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:35.560 wasn't the show, like the airline lost her luggage and 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:39.080 she never found it, and she was like borrowing her 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:42.239 roommate Ryan's clothes like the whole season because I think 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:44.800 like the one that she lost was like all her 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:46.960 clothes and jewelry, and like the one that she had 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.760 was like toilet trees and like shoes and stuff. So 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.320 she's like, I'm screwed, but I'm very glad that they 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.919 found your luggage. But that is funny because it's like 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:58.479 the one time you're like I don't want to date 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:00.400 tomorrow is the time that you're like, okay, I guess 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:01.320 on the dates. 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.920 Just how life works out and on you know. It 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:06.600 was it was truly like I will remember that day 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:09.760 for the rest of my life. It was so fun, 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.159 Like I got to do the walking tour and I 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:14.680 travel a lot, so like getting to actually like walk 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:18.920 around the city and see Malta. It was it was 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:20.760 just casual and fun, like it didn't feel like we 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:21.840 were on a bachelor date. 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:24.560 Yeah. I always say like those are the best dates, 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:28.399 like just the ones that are the most organic. What 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:30.840 was it like being in that church? I know, you 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.640 kind of talked about your grandfather, Yeah, and you got 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:35.399 to interact with Yeah. 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.120 So it was emotional. It was really emotional. 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:40.280 It was I think being away from you, you know this, 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:43.000 like being away from your whole family, and then like 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:45.760 just your emotions are high and then you know, I 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:47.359 was in the church and I went to church with 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:50.280 my grandfather growing up, and he had passed away recently, 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:52.240 and because of COVID, I wasn't able to go to 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:54.480 the funeral, and just there was so many emotions that 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.080 just hit me at once. I felt like I hadn't 0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:59.200 been in a church like that since I was with him, 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:02.240 And it was just a really full circle moment because 0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:04.399 he always said he wanted to meet my person, and 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.720 like we both golfed together, like we were just so close, 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.240 and like that was at the end of the day 0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:12.439 and so like that being kind of how we closed 0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.520 out the date and just everything going so well with Joey, 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:16.960 I just felt like I was really supposed to be 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:17.800 there in that moment. 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.560 Uh. It was. Yeah, it was very special. 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.000 And then the priest came over and talked to us 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.639 about what makes a healthy marriage and talked about a 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:28.720 couple that he's married in the church and yeah, he 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.600 just gave us some advice and it was Yeah, it 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:32.600 was it was beautiful. 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:33.920 I'm excited to watch that back. 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:39.560 Yeah, are you starting to feel like Joey could be 0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:41.760 your person? Is that happening yet? 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:43.800 Yeah? For sure, I think. 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:47.679 I mean I was definitely starting to think like, oh, okay, 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:50.440 this is like I'm not just on here, you know, 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.639 to meet someone and see if there's something there. Like 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.719 I'm like, the something there is there. It's just a 0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:59.600 matter of like kind of getting down, like opening up 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:01.840 with a big thing for me that night, Like I 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:05.400 wanted to open up about my health with him because 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:07.520 I wanted to make sure like that wasn't something that 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.199 you know, he wouldn't want to that could affect his 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.159 decision with me. So at that point, I was like, 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:14.920 the feelings are there. I just think we need to 0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:17.520 kind of figure out under the covers, like our values, 0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:20.200 what we want long term in our timelines. Timelines was 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:21.040 a huge thing for me. 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.760 Yeah we we we see you mentioned and we definitely 0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:28.159 don't have to go there if you're uncomfortable talking about it. 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:34.600 But your past with your acts of it being an 0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:36.320 issue for him, do you want to talk about that 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:36.720 at all. 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:38.359 Yeah, I can touch on it. 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:41.639 I think, you know, for him, my health did was 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:46.399 ultimately something that impacted the end of our relationship. I 0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:49.919 think he saw it as I would never say a burden, 0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.960 but you know, just something that would potentially affect you know, 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.320 us being able to have a family long term or 0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.439 you know, my ability to be a mother, like I'm 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.520 not always is one hundred percent every day, And so 0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:06.480 for him, he saw that as sometimes a challenge, which 0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:09.600 you can imagine on my side, like is really difficult 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.360 because you know, when we broke up, like hearing from 0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.600 multiple people that it was like he just wasn't sure 0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:18.119 he could handle your health condition, He wasn't sure that 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:19.760 he could support you in the way that you need 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:23.840 to be supported. And for me it was very much like, 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.280 but I mean, I do a really good job at 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.560 like holding my pain in and not showing it outwardly. 0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.440 So I'm already self conscious about this, and to hear 0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.560 it was like one of the deciding factors to ultimately 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.400 not move towards a marriage with me, like has made 0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:40.280 me not want to open up about any of this 0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:41.320 with another person. 0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:46.480 Yeah, I can imagine that being on TV opening up 0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:51.560 to Joey this new relationship about your endo is already scary, 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:53.760 and then to have that added layer of like, well, 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:58.480 the last time I did this, it ended the relationship. Yeah, 0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.920 is just a whole other life of like anxiety exactly. 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.159 I mean, you said it perfectly, but I felt I 0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:08.840 had to because on the show, you have such limited time, 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.520 and so I wanted to be fair to Joey. And 0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:13.760 if it's Joey was never going to go in and 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:15.640 say like I don't want to be with you because 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:17.520 you can't have kids. That's not the That's not the 0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:20.160 conversation that we were having. It was more like, hey, 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.199 I'm dealing with x Y and Z. I might be 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:25.320 on a little bit more of an expedited timeline than 0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.159 some of these other girls that are here because of 0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:29.760 x Y and Z. Like how does that make you feel? 0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:34.120 And I genuinely wanted his reaction because it's okay if 0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:37.720 he wants, you know, five to seven years before kids. 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:39.800 And I'm not saying that's what he said, but like 0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.640 his emotions and reaction are valid, and I would rather 0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.600 have that early on than like drag out a connection 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.000 and then it come up later that to me wouldn't 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:50.600 be fair to him totally. 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:52.520 That totally makes sense because if he were to say, 0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.320 like I'm not ready to have kids, I don't want 0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.080 a family for ten years, or like I don't I mean, 0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.520 we know he wants kids, but like, it's a serious 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.280 conversation to have and it's one that you know you 0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.960 have added layers to add to. So how did that 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.320 conversation go? Like, obviously you did an amazing job of 0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.280 expressing yourself, he saw. How did it feel, you know, 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:14.360 hearing Joe's response. 0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:19.919 Hearing Joe's response was well, like probably forever changed my 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:24.199 perception on opening up about this in my life and 0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.880 my story and my health and relationships. He I mean, 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:29.800 he brought me to tears that night. It was he 0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.879 was so genuine and sincere and such a good listener. 0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:39.160 I felt heard. I didn't feel judged or like analyzed. 0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:41.240 I felt like he was really just listening to me 0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:45.800 and empathetic to what I went through. He related to 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:49.120 me in many ways in his own personal life, and 0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.520 he was like, look, that's not an issue for me. 0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.160 Like I think with the right person, whoever that is 0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:58.280 for him, that they would figure it out. And you 0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.399 know that could be through things like adopt or you know, 0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.119 surrogacy whatever. That looks like kids are important to him 0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:08.159 as well, but that's not going to be detrimental to 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:09.760 his choice and moving. 0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.240 Forward with me. And yeah, he was just he was 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:15.160 so kind that night and it was it was really beautiful. 0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:19.119 That's amazing. Yeah, I feel like he's really demonstrated. 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.760 Like we said, he's the he's the best receiver joke. 0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:24.439 He's like, he's an amazing receiver. 0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.560 He he's an incredible he's also he's such a good 0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:32.879 listener and he's yeah, he's he's he was raised well 0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.080 like he is, but you know what it is, he's 0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.760 just a kind person. So he actually cares because you'll 0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:39.680 talk to some people and it's like you can tell 0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:41.840 they're registering it, but like kind of fifty percent and 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.320 fifty percent out, Like he was locked in. I mean, 0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.840 he was listening to me. And in a situation like that, 0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:48.720 it's so important. 0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:49.960 Yeah. 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:53.880 Okay, so let's let's jump a little bit too. Yeah, 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:59.560 your thoughts on the Maria fiasco and why we want 0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:04.440 I want your opinion on two situations, but the first one, 0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.120 what were your thoughts on just the Maria in Sydney 0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:08.680 of it all. 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.080 Yeah, because we also know that you were the only 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.600 one there before they went on to them, because everyone 0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:16.640 else is on the group day. 0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:17.240 I forgot. 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:19.880 Yeah, I guess, yeah, I can start. 0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:23.040 My initial thoughts were back at the mansion is where 0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.080 I think that conversation should have been left. I think, 0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:29.600 you know, everyone's emotions and feelings are valid, Medina's were valid. 0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.800 At the mansion, Sidney was trying to stand up for 0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:35.800 her friend, and Maria was trying to, you know, advocate 0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:37.880 for herself and say, hey, I did not bring this 0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.480 up in any way, shape or form to hurt someone. 0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.400 I brought this up just because I wanted to know 0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.520 who was talking and kind of you know, clear her 0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.080 name in the situation, because she didn't mean her come 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.320 in a mean way. There was no bad intentions there. 0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:55.200 It's hard. I really think this dragged on for too long. 0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.800 It took away time from a lot of girls that 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.600 had also their own beautiful stories to tell, and so 0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.240 I wish it was left at the mansion. 0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:03.840 I think it. 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:09.240 I think the initial conversation could have just been squashed, 0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.960 but it continued on, obviously right to Malta in Spain 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:15.000 and and throughout the season and that day that it 0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:16.640 was just the three of us, Like you could cut 0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.800 the tension with a knife. I mean you could just tell, 0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:23.880 like tensions are high, they're going on a two on one. 0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.280 They're fully aware of what that comes with, right, Like 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.360 I think the date card that I got, of course 0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:32.160 me had to read it was like one rows, two girls, 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.600 one stay as one goes, And I was like, I 0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:38.280 was even just like I got to go to my room, like. 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.080 Here's the card, how do we get that down? 0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.640 I like toss that out the window at the hotel. 0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:44.520 But yeah, it was it was. 0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:47.840 I I did sit down with both of them, both 0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:50.280 of their you know, they they were they were stressed. 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:52.560 Who do if you had to put money on it 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.960 before they went on that date, who did you think 0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:55.680 was coming back? 0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:57.200 That's a good question. 0:30:57.760 --> 0:30:58.760 That is a good question. 0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:02.280 I think based on what I saw, I thought Maria 0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:05.520 and Joey had a stronger connection. I was on both 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:07.080 group dates with Maria. 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.360 I was on one group date with Sydney and she 0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.000 didn't have one the first week, So I just thought 0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.440 I could always tell there was something there between Joey 0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:17.880 and Maria. Like I tell by the way he looked 0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:19.400 at her. I think he was intrigued by. 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:23.000 Her personality, like she is very outgoing, So I kind 0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.000 of thought, if it was solely based on connection, Maria 0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:25.840 was going to come back. 0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:34.160 We saw when Sydney's suitcase gets pulled Leah Jess. I'm 0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:35.840 sure there was a few other people, but those were 0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.520 the two main ones. I remember were very surprised that 0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:42.160 Sidney was going home. Where do you think their shot 0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:45.400 came from? Do you think it was like wishful thinking 0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:47.360 or do you think you know? 0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.880 I think it was rooted in the fact that they 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:52.200 have their own perception of this. 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:53.680 They're very close to Sidney. 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:55.840 They were you know, when you're on this experience, you 0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:59.720 form strong relationships because it's so unique, and they were, 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.880 you know, really good friends with her, and they heard 0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.360 her side of the story, and they weren't as close 0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:06.880 to Maria. 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:08.120 So I think it was twofold. 0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:11.280 I think it was oh, Maria's still staying like they 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.240 were upset about that, and then I think it was 0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:15.840 also like we're losing our friend here. 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:17.800 But that night was hard. 0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:21.040 I mean, I'm not gonna lie like I've since had 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.920 a conversation with Maria and apologize to her because I 0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.239 wish I spoke up that night and it's like, you know, 0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:30.160 you go through this, everyone has their like regrets. But 0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:34.480 when she walked in, it was silent, and I wish 0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.719 that I had said, like, look, today must have been 0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:40.000 hard for both of you, but like, I'm proud of 0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:43.880 you forgetting the rose, and like I I know Joey 0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.240 made that decision for a reason. She didn't deserve to 0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.560 walk into a silent room, like that wasn't fair to her. 0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:52.880 Yeah, yeah, I can imagine that would have been super horrible. 0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:56.000 Everyone's like yeah, because then you walk in and you 0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.040 you're kind of on this a little bit of a 0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:00.720 high because at least you're still there and he gives 0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:02.560 you a rose, and then everybody's. 0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.840 Like, oh, guys, it was bad. Like it was bad, 0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:06.920 but like it was, it was bad. It was bad. 0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.640 It was quiet. It was because you know, she didn't 0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:10.480 do anything wrong. 0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.120 She was she's also dating Joey, so he made the 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.000 choice and she came back and she didn't deserve to 0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:16.680 walk into that. 0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:28.680 So but then we do see Leyah, the Leyah Jess 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.560 call calling her Maria bitch and all, well, I was 0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:35.800 going to refer to Leah pulled Medina aside and said, like, 0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:39.080 you were so nice to her when she came in. 0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:41.160 Was that like later in the night then, like do 0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:43.840 you think Medina maybe had those same feelings you did? 0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.400 Of like that was really awkward, Like I'm gonna go 0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:50.360 say something to Maria, just basically saying like hey, happy 0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.880 you're back, you look great, like hope your hope your 0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:53.480 day was good. 0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:55.760 Here's the thing, like, yes, she brought up the initial 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.040 comment so people could say, like, why is she not 0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.400 still involved? But her and Maria said so at the 0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:02.880 end of the day at that point, she was not 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:07.160 involved anymore. I think that the description or maybe what 0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:11.600 was mis confused was like Leah and Sidney were so close, 0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:13.720 so I think Leyah was standing up for her friend, 0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.200 but Medina didn't really do anything wrong, like she were 0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:20.280 allowed to be friends with multiple people right across different groups, 0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.719 Like that's inevitable with thirty two women. So I just 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:25.279 again it was kind of like why are we still 0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:26.800 dragging this on in Spain? 0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:30.120 You know, yeah, totally, who are your friends in the house. 0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.960 I was really good friends with Kelsey A. She's an 0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:41.240 amazing human. I think Madina's great Maria, the sisters, Evelyn, Chrisa. 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.719 I mean, I could go on like just Daisy's wonderful, 0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.400 but you know, I think obviously you gravitate to certain people, 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.240 and like Kelsey A, Caitlin, Medina and I were definitely 0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:52.760 the closest. 0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.279 Nice I do want to jump back to what you 0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.759 were asking, which was which was what is your take 0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:05.280 on the blow up between Jess and Maria. 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:09.680 It was crazy to watch, and I think there was 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:13.160 a lot of built up emotion. You know, everyone gets that, 0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.120 like it's a pent up anger that's like week after 0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.560 week after week. And like in Malta, Sinney went home 0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.160 and Jess and Sidney were such good friends, are such 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:23.800 good friends, and you know, I think Jess and Maria 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:25.759 like you can go back to kind of night one, 0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.960 right when Jess kissed him twice, like there's been like 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.520 people kind of poking the bear, and I think in 0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:37.320 Spain it finally just erupted and Jets obviously called Maria 0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:41.319 a name, and you know, I don't think that was 0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.399 warranted at all, and I do think that they've they 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:47.799 had the opportunity to talk that night, but it was 0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:49.360 it was crazy, It was very explosive. 0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:51.480 Yeah, I would say I feel like as much as 0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:54.000 there was a lot of Sydney Maria confrontation, that was 0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:56.719 like the most heated moment I've seen, Like there was 0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.359 a lot of emotion behind that one. We do see 0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.960 you like console Maria when she's kind of trying, yeah, 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:06.239 to leave with the Leyah drama. You just say, you know, 0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.480 it's okay. You've been like pushed and pushed and pushed, 0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:10.520 so like it's okay that you're having a moment. And 0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.560 then we see you make a comment in regards to 0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.360 the Jess and Maria argument where you say, you know, 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:19.320 I think there might be some jealousy on Jess's side. 0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:23.239 Do you think that Maria now getting this attention and 0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:26.640 reassurance from Joey kind of rubbed some people the wrong way, 0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:28.560 especially maybe the girls that were friends with Sidney. 0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:29.640 Yeah. 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.160 Look, I mean, I'm thirty, I'm confident in who I am. 0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:34.160 If I was on this twenty four, i'd be jealous 0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:37.960 of Maria too, Like she's so confident, she's stunning, Like 0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.799 she's seemingly good at everything. The girls like doing like 0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:45.120 you know, backflips across the stage, like she's hilarious. I mean, right, 0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:47.279 it's intimidating to be in a room with someone like that. 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.880 I'm not I don't know if if it was jealousy 0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:52.840 with Jess or if it was more just like the 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:56.960 personal uh feeling like personally attacked as her best friend 0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.040 went home because of an output of Maria's action. But 0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.120 I do think, yeah, I think that some of the 0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.439 younger girls in the house, which I hate to say 0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.920 that because this whole season feels like it's been about age, 0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.200 but like, I think someone at twenty four and someone 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.160 at thirty one are in a different phase of life, 0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:17.400 and I think sometimes there might have been some jealousy 0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.320 there just seeing how strong of a connection Marian and 0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:19.919 Joey had. 0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:22.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. 0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:23.040 Yeah. 0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.319 Was it at least entertaining? I mean, because you guys 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:27.400 don't have anything to do. 0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:31.680 You guys, I was just eating charcuterie and having sangria, 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:32.200 which was. 0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:36.040 Great and as you should in Spain, sounds. 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.239 Terrible, but yeah, I was. I was. I wasn't like 0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:42.800 entertained by people feeling sad, but I was like, it's crazy. 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.680 Yeah, no, I get it out of the two places 0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:52.400 so far that you traveled to. Which one do you favor? Spain? 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.480 Well, I love, I love Spain. I took Spanish all 0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:58.719 through college and like, I love the culture. But if 0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:00.960 I'm thinking about just like the experience there Malta. 0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:02.960 Because of the date, the one on one, I got 0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:06.360 to see so much of Malta. When Jesse told us Malta, 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:07.759 I don't I don't know if it was dumb or like, 0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:09.319 I just didn't know where that was. 0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.319 I was just going to ask you that because like 0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:14.480 I feel like no one has even heard of it. 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.000 I was like, is it a country? Is it a city? 0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:19.480 Like where is it located? 0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.239 I was like, are we going to Asia? Like I 0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:21.759 didn't know? 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:25.080 And so I he said international and like I hate flying. 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:26.319 It was the whole thing I was taking in a 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:29.920 lot in that moment. But the fifteen hours to Turkey 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.120 was like I thought we were going to Nashville. 0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.120 The rumor in the house was we were going to Nashville. 0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:36.440 So like I really had to like shift my mind, like, 0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:41.280 oh no, We're going to Turkey. Like anyways, I loved Malta. 0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:42.080 It's beautiful. 0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.279 It's right below the boot in Sicily, and I feel like, 0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:46.200 I mean, it was a dream. 0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:46.960 Yeah. 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.200 Yeah, I saw when Maria when they were on there too, 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:50.880 and when Maria was like, we're only a thirty minute 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.480 boat ride from Sicily, I'm like, oh that's kind of cool. 0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.160 Like yeah, it's like maybe we'll go to Sicily and 0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:57.319 then we'll go to Malta. 0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:58.319 Yeah, you guys should go. 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.839 Okay, we are going to get into a game with 0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.719 you before we let you go. It's super it's rapid fire. 0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:10.040 It's just like all easy, fun questions about you and yeah, 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.840 you ready, I guess, let's do it. Okay. What is 0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:15.760 your go to breakfast? 0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:19.000 Go to breakfast is probably an Osi you bowl. I 0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:20.960 love them. I like make one every morning. 0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:22.000 You make it at home? 0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:23.080 Yeah, I do. 0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:25.080 I used to buy them, but they're like twenty dollars eat, 0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.200 so I was like, this is not fiscally responsible. So 0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.799 I get the little package and whole foods and like 0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.040 you know, like for the granola and some fruit. 0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:35.880 Oh my gosh. So yeah, what is your favorite color 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:36.279 to wear? 0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:38.000 Green? 0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.960 Which I mean perfect do green eyes? 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.239 They're like green blue. I don't know, it changed, it 0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.520 kind of changed with my emotions. Sometimes people would say 0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.160 that like if I cry, they get more green and 0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:50.200 then if I'm so interesting. 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:54.640 Oh my gosh, it's like a Disney character. What's your 0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:55.440 favorite season? 0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:00.239 My favorite season, I mean typical answer, but fall. Love 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.520 the fall and everything that comes with it. Halloween is 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:03.320 my favorite holiday. 0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:05.160 Halloween to be your holiday. 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:10.160 I love Halloween. I know that's so retroversial. It is rare. 0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:13.759 I just I love like spooky things. And I know 0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:15.279 it's like leading up to Thanksgiving. 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.880 I don't know, I love is that weird? I just 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.000 feel like, yeah, I. 0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:23.600 Just don't like dressing I just don't like dressing up. 0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:25.200 But I love the idea, you know. 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:29.760 Spooky season. Yeah, I love like we'll get like fall candles. 0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:31.200 Like yeah, like passing out candy, like you know, Christmas 0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.160 is on its way. Yeah, it's a good time. 0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:35.359 What is a big green flag for you? 0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.200 Good relationship with their family? 0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.840 What a relationship deal breaker for you? 0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.400 A relationship deal breaker would be someone who. 0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.680 Cheats, for sure, or someone who's not driven in their 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:55.600 career or I shouldn't even say their career, but like 0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:57.960 not passionate about what they're doing in their life. 0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.520 What's your dream vacation destination. 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:04.720 I want to go to Japan so badly. 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:08.080 We are saying maybe this we might go Joe's bend. 0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:11.360 Ben It's amazing, Is it amazing? Yeah, we want to 0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:12.200 try to go this year. 0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.280 You guys have to tish. 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.040 We'll see, we'll see if it happens. I'm hoping it, 0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:23.720 cross my fingers. What's one thing on your bucket list? 0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:28.520 I think on the bucket list would be I really 0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:30.800 want to run like a marathon or a triathlon, just 0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.400 because when I was originally diagnosed with like all my 0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.120 health stuff, they were like, you probably won't be able 0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.080 to do like extreme sports or anything that's really hard 0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:40.680 on your body anymore, which like growing up playing sports 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:42.520 that was devastating for me to hear. 0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.560 And I kind of want to prove my doctor's wrong and. 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:46.600 Be like, even though I like because it's a long 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:48.800 time and heard on your body, so they're worried it 0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.840 might like exasperate my symptoms or make me feel like 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.480 a lot worse with my back. So I kind of 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.360 want to like run one and then give my doctor, 0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.480 like my like bib to put in their off. 0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:01.279 Yeah, you should do it the city if you if 0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:02.839 you could run it anywhere, were would you want to run? 0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:04.000 Probably New York? 0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:07.040 Joe did the New York Marathon this past night. 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.680 Yeah, it was it's they say it's they it's I 0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:12.440 didn't know that. They say New York's one of the 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:17.600 harder courses. Yeah, but yeah, it was very rewarding. I 0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.279 did on the right under four hours, so it was 0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:23.279 three three fifty eight, three fifty eight. 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.520 Yeah, and I did not run it. 0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:26.439 I didn't. 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.400 No, I told one of the signs I did. I 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:32.080 had a sign that said run joe Run, I love it. 0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.200 What is Oh? Do you have any tattoos? 0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.120 I do not, but I'm not a post to them. 0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:41.799 I just haven't found the right thing. Yeah. 0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:46.560 What's your favorite physical quality of Joey's physical quality? 0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:47.200 His eyes? 0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:49.799 I feel like everyone probably says that, but not even 0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:51.400 just since the color, like they're very kind. 0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:54.920 Yeah, what is your or who is your go to 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:55.920 when you need advice? 0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.759 My best friend again we she was my first friend 0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:01.839 and when I reached the United States and she's more 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:02.360 like a sister. 0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:08.640 What is your favorite beauty product? At the moment, I know, 0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:11.680 I'm struggling to read them, like, wait, what is this? 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.239 So I know the answer to this one the Elf 0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:16.600 lip oil because on the show, all the girls use 0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:18.640 the dr one, but it's so expensive and I just 0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:22.000 can't justify that. So the Elf one's like nine dollars 0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:22.760 and it's amazing. 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:24.840 Oh my god, that's a good due. 0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:26.640 To do, not to do a product placement. 0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:27.359 No, let me. 0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:32.320 See, I love Elf is blown up because of that. 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:36.279 Yes, because the Oil Good Job Joe podcast we're just 0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:40.600 talking about the other day of Clarence has a good 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:44.440 a good dupe for it as well. What is your 0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:45.879 favorite memory of your time on the show. 0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:50.600 My favorite memory is would be the dinner with Joey. 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.360 It was one just like an incredibly beautiful setting and 0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.879 then it was something like it was something I didn't 0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.000 even know its possible to have in a relationship, like 0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:02.240 his reaction really changing how I view dating and myself. 0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:05.560 That's amazing. And then to end it off, can you 0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:09.240 give us a teaser for what's to come this season? 0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:12.920 I think what's to come this season? I think, you know, 0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:16.600 obviously it's a very romantic season. I think Joey has 0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.440 an incredible cast of women, so there's going to be 0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.200 stronger relationships starting to form, and I think with that 0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:23.560 comes heightened emotions. 0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:26.120 Obviously some drama. 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:29.520 You know, that's continuing from previous episodes, but I really 0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:30.880 think the rest of the season is just going to 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:34.280 focus on the love stories. And yeah, I'm just hopeful 0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.000 that Joey, he's very deserving to find his person, and 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:40.040 hopeful every hopefully everyone gets to watch that come to life. 0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:43.800 Nice, amazing, LEXI, thank you so much for coming on 0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:44.719 beat your Happy Hour. 0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:46.399 Thank you guys for having me. 0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:50.360 Of course, thank you to all our listeners for joining us. 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.600 And of course a big thank you to our listeners. 0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:55.640 Make sure to subscribe, but we have new episodes of 0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.400 Happy Hour every single week, with exclusive interviews and episode 0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:01.800 recaps all season long. Thanks for listening. 0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:03.760 Bye bye 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:07.359 Mm hmm.