1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Beat your Happy Hour. I'm 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena and we are here with Lexi 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: from Joey Sincy. Hi Lexi, Hi Lexi. 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: Hey guys, your hair looks so good. You get it 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: done recently? 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 3: Thank you. 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 4: Yes, I actually just got it done when I came back. 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 4: I talked about this on my Instagram. But I had 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 4: a bit of a hair fiasco when I was in 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 4: the mansion. Some reason my hair turned red, which you know, 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 4: we love redheads, but like it was two red stripes 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 4: at the front. So when I was on the show, 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 4: luckily Jess had men's beard dye for her eyebrows and 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 4: let me use it to color correct. So my hair 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 4: is a lot darker on the show than it is usually. 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 4: But it's a funny story. 17 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: So I just went, oh, my god, use men's I 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: didn't know. I have friends that dye their eyebrows, and 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: usually they just use boxed hair dye. I've never heard 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: of anyone using beard dye. 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, just for men. 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: But I guess that would make sense because it is 23 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: like hair on your face. 24 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: Right right. So God blessed Jess for having that, and 25 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: it was like dark, dark brown it's a funny story. 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: Wait, why so I've heard of I've had friends who 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: have gone blonde and then like hard water will make 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: it look green. But I've never Are you a natural redhead? 29 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: Was it like stripping your eyelights? 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: Something was happening. 31 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 4: I'm naturally pretty dark brown, so I think it was 32 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 4: just like getting the highlights right before the show and 33 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 4: then using the water out there. 34 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: Or maybe I don't know. Something something happens that's good. 35 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: Crazy, I would be freaking out. I can't beieve they 36 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: couldn't get you like boxed hair dyed. 37 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 3: You know it's a they tried their best. 38 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you had the beard dye, thank god? 39 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: So thank god. 40 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: You know my beard actually used to come in a 41 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: little red. What Yeah, no, it does it now I 42 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: have Now they come in Now they come in gray 43 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: on my chant. 44 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: Ottle salt and peppery. Yeah, well maybe you should head 45 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: of Jess for her box beard died. 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would die my beard. I don't. 47 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't keep it long enough to die it. 48 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: I feel like you have to have a significant amount 49 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: of hair to be dying. Like I feel like it's 50 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: for people who have a full beard. 51 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: Why are you coming right now? 52 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: What are you talking about coming? You say, I think 53 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: it's people who have like a full gray beard. I 54 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: want to dye it brown. So that's not great. 55 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just I'm going to lean into the salt 56 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: and pepper. 57 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: You should you lean in cult public and Lexi, you 58 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: can stay away from you. 59 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: Isn't about me though, Solexi, where do you live? 60 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: I currently am in Atlanta, Georgia, col. 61 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: And you you said on on one of these episodes 62 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: that you moved to San Francisco for work and then 63 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: you moved to New York. So what do you do 64 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: and what what happened there? 65 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I've I've lived all over actually originally from Toronto. 66 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 3: But I Toronto, I had to say, and I had 67 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: to say it too Ontario. 68 00:02:58,840 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: Oh nice. 69 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, So my family's all up there, my extended family, 70 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 4: but we ultimately moved down to the States for my 71 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: dad's job. So I ended up in Ohio for a 72 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: while and then yeah, after school, moved out to San 73 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: Francisco for work. I worked at the Gap when I 74 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: was out there, but I work in digital marketing and 75 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 4: digital strategy, so I work on their websites. I came 76 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: down with a lot of illness when I was in 77 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: San Francisco with my health and so ultimately made the 78 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 4: decision to move back to New York to be closer 79 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 4: to my family. And GAP also had a headquarters in 80 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 4: New York, so it just made sense at the time. 81 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's how I ended up in the city. 82 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: And do you still work for GAP now? 83 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: I don't work for GAP now. 84 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: I work for another large retail company in Atlanta doing 85 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: the same type of work. 86 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 87 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: Do you like Atlanta? 88 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: I like Atlanta. 89 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: It was a huge culture shock moving down here, like 90 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: being originally from Canada and then living on both coasts. 91 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: Moving to Atlanta was kind of crazy. It's super southern obviously, 92 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: and then like everyone here gets married at like twenty two, 93 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 4: so I was this like black sheet moving down here 94 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: single at like twenty nine. So I like it, but 95 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 4: it's different. 96 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that San Francisco has an exact opposite, it makes 97 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: me exact opposite. Literally, Yeah really might Okay? Cool? And 98 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: how did you How did you get on The Bachelor? 99 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 4: It's a bit of a long story, but long story short, 100 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 4: I was originally supposed to go on and went through 101 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: the casting process for Peter season. 102 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: And so wow a few years. 103 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, which when I look back, I wouldn't have been 104 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 4: ready to do that at that point in my life 105 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 4: and age. 106 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: So I'm so glad it happened when it did. 107 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: But I had just had my endometriosis surgery, so it 108 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 4: wasn't the right time for me with filming. And then 109 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 4: I got in contact with a producer and they told 110 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: me it was going to be Joey and I was like, 111 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: this is so serendipitous, and I think he's such a 112 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 4: great guy. I just turned thirty, like why not. So 113 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: it's kind of crazy that Peter to Joey, like it's 114 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 4: I don't know. The whole thing was very full circle, that. 115 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: Is you hear you hear some stories like that, Like 116 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: I think Caitlin Bristow was also something that was like 117 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: in casting for someone's season, we had like almost on 118 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: the show and then something happened or like she didn't 119 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: get on and then gets onto another season. I just 120 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: feel like it always falls the way it's supposed to exactly. 121 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: I want to pronounce this correctly, so I don't son 122 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: a fucking war on. 123 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: But you could do it. I could do it. 124 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: I could do this, okay, So when you talk about 125 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: your endometriosis. 126 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: You could say and I could just call it endo 127 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: ye ye Okay. 128 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: I love that, Okay, So not that I don't love it. 129 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: But so when you had your ENDO surgery, how old 130 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: were you? 131 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 4: I had my surgery in twenty nineteen, so I just 132 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 4: turned thirty. So yeah, I would have been twenty five 133 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: twenty six, And so that was a time period for 134 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: me that was crazy and like I said going on 135 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: the show, it wouldn't have been possible, but so grateful 136 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: that I did have the surgery when I was living 137 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: in New York. 138 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: What was the process like, because I know you said 139 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: it took about a year and a half to have 140 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: it diagnosed, which correct me wrong, but I believe that's 141 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: not totally uncommon. 142 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: No, you're yeah, you're exactly right. So really it was 143 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 3: ten years of me like in pain and not knowing 144 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 3: what was going on with my body. And then things 145 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: got a lot worse when like the back half of 146 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: San Francisco and when I moved to New York and 147 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: I just started going to so many different doctors appointments, 148 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: and like I was diagnosed with things I didn't even have, 149 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 3: Like I was diagnosed with autoimmune disorders and taking medications 150 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: for them, and I didn't have it, and I was 151 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: turned away from that, so so crazy. 152 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: Like women, on average, it takes ten years to get 153 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 4: a diagnosis, per end of so like that's that was 154 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: my timeline and it's so sad to hear that. And 155 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 4: a lot of the times doctors will turn you to 156 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 4: like a psychiatrist or almost make you believe that your 157 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 4: pain is in your head because it has to be 158 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 4: diagnosed surgically. So it's that even adds another like of 159 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: complexity to get a diagnosis. So for me, it was 160 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: a lot of being like turned away kind of given 161 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: medication to treat me for something I didn't have. And 162 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: then I even started to doubt my pain and I 163 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: was like, is this even real? 164 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: Is this something in my head? Just because I was 165 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: shut down so many times. 166 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: That's so frustrating and it's just so scary that you 167 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: know you have to wait ten years to get diagnosial 168 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: something that you're probably like, I could have been treating 169 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: this ten years earlier. I can imagine too. By the 170 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: time the surgery option comes around, It's like, on one hand, 171 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: you're like, I'll do anything to figure out what's going 172 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: on with me. But on the another you're probably like, 173 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: I've had so many inaccurate diagnoses that diagnoses diagnosisis not diagnoses, 174 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: you know what I meant, but that it's like, is 175 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: this just going to be another dead end? Like it's 176 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: it's got It must have been so emotionally and physically 177 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: draining for you. 178 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: It was. 179 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: I remember walking into NYU that day, because you don't 180 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 4: know until you wake up from the surgery if you 181 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: have it or not, and I remember thinking do I 182 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: want to have this or do I not? Like do 183 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: you like it's a weird thing because like I've gone 184 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 4: through ten years of pain and multiple years of going 185 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: to appointments, and I felt like I finally kind of 186 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: had an answer. This doctor had a really strong hunch 187 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: I had it. But then I was like, wait a second, 188 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: the reality of actually having it is a whole other 189 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: thing to deal with, So I didn't. I didn't really 190 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: even know how to feel, like am I going to 191 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 4: be happy after this? Like if I go through the 192 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: surgery and I don't have it, I'm just at another 193 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: dead end. 194 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's really it plays with your mind. 195 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: What has your journey like has. What has your journey 196 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: been like since being diagnosed. 197 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 3: It's it's been an uphill battle. 198 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 4: If I'm being honest, I have, you know, good weeks 199 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 4: and I have really bad weeks. I've been on so 200 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 4: many different medications to try to get it into a 201 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 4: place where it's controllable. I am at the point right 202 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 4: now where they want me to have a second surgery. 203 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: A lot of time women have two or three, but 204 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: because I'm thirty, they want me to have it as 205 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 4: close as possible to when I want to conceive. And 206 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 4: the reason for that is because they go in and 207 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 4: clean up all that tissue that's not supposed to be there, 208 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 4: so it puts you in like an optimal state to 209 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 4: have a child. That is really hard for me because 210 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 4: the only solve is something I can't even do at 211 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 4: this moment in time. And the reason they don't want 212 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 4: you to have too many surgeries is because they cause 213 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: a lot of scar tissue. And so just right now, 214 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: I kind of feel like I'm being pushed into a 215 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: corner of just having to power through the pain and 216 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 4: make the most of it. 217 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: But uh, it is challenging. 218 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's got to be such a hard decision because 219 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: you're really I'm assuming like you're probably advised by doctors, 220 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: but you have to probably make the decision evidably if 221 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: you're going to have the surgery and then potentially you 222 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: just have to have another surgery when you are ready 223 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: to have children, or if you're going to power through 224 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: the pain so that you don't have to have as 225 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: many surgeries. Like, there's not a clear right answer there. 226 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: There's not, And I just froze my eggs. 227 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 4: Actually I had the surgery for that a few weeks 228 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 4: before I went on the show, which, thank you, that 229 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 4: came with a lot of its own issues, but that 230 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 4: I'm trying my best to do everything I can to 231 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 4: become a mother. 232 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: That's what I've wanted my whole life. But yeah, you're 233 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 3: exactly right. 234 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: Do you feel like the medical field now today, in 235 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four is better detecting this opposed to ten 236 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: years ago. Are we kind of in the same place 237 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: of it's still very hard for it to get be 238 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: detected in women? Yeah, it's still going through that. 239 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: That's a great question. 240 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: I would like to say that I would like to 241 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 4: say the diagnosis process has gotten better. 242 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: I don't think it has. 243 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 4: I think what's gotten better is the technology to. 244 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: Like an MRI. 245 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 4: Now you can have where they can see if there's abnormalities. 246 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 4: It can't diagnose it, but it can at least point 247 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 4: in the direction that you might have something going on there, 248 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 4: which gives woman more confidence to have a surgery. However, 249 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 4: I still think like it's so I've posted on Instagram 250 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 4: about my experience and I got I think almost like 251 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 4: a thousand messages from women saying to me that I've 252 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: had the exact same experience. I'm currently in the process 253 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: of fighting for a diagnosis, Like I've gone to ten 254 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: plus appointments. No one's taking me seriously, so it's not 255 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 4: spoken about enough, and I don't I really don't think 256 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: it's changed that much, which is disheartening. 257 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like, and I mean this is not endo, 258 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: but I someone in my life has PCOS and they 259 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: had a similar experience, where like there's a lot of 260 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: women's health issues. I feel like that the story is 261 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: connected to where it's like, it took me years for 262 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: someone to finally diagnose me with this, and I was 263 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: doing treatments that were actually like harming what I was 264 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: like actually had and yes, yeah. 265 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: Yes, I went through bladder installations, which is I don't 266 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 4: need to get into the whole thing, but where they 267 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 4: like put like an acidic thing like. 268 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: Through your urethruck it. 269 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: I was crying, screaming and pain because they thought I 270 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: had a condition with my bladder, and like, I have 271 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: nothing wrong with my bladder. And like the fact I 272 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: went through that for six months, Like it's traumatic to me. 273 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 3: So I have a lot of crazy Yeah. 274 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's just like the fact that doctor did it, 275 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: like all of the above, it's it's scary. 276 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, a major flaw. Yeah, how does it affect you 277 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: on a day to day scale? 278 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: On a day to day scale, like it's so unpredictable. 279 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: Some days I'll have flares and like I'll look four 280 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 4: or five months pregnant from like swelling. Some days I'll 281 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 4: have horrible or back pain. I mean, it hits me 282 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 4: out of nowhere. I've become really good at managing it. So, 283 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I work a really demanding job, like I'm 284 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: sitting at a desk all day. So I'm not going 285 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: to lie like it comes with its challenges and I 286 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: don't probably live the exact same life as someone who 287 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 4: wouldn't be dealing with this, But I've gotten to a 288 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: place now where, like I'm so strong mentally that I 289 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 4: just pushed through. I like take really good care of 290 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: my health. That helps to a degree, but it's one 291 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: of those things that's it's never leaving my life. There's 292 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: no cure, and so I've just learned how to like 293 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: have a better attitude about it and like make the 294 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 4: most of every day even though I have a little 295 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: bit of a handicap. 296 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 2: Is Stage five the most severe stage. 297 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 4: So I actually so there's technically four stages of endo, 298 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 4: and on the show, I said five, it's four and 299 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 4: five are like five is kind of a new stage 300 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: that they're talking about. For me, I had endo growing 301 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: on my lung and so since it spread to like 302 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 4: an organ outside of my pelvis, I'm kind of four 303 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: or five. Stage four is technically the most severe phase 304 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: within your pelvis, and that just means that, like there's 305 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,599 Speaker 4: a lot of adhesion, so like your uterus could be 306 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 4: attached to both ovaries. There's a lot of large thiss 307 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 4: and so even I like to preface though someone with 308 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 4: stage one could have equal pain as someone as stage four, 309 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 4: it's just how much the actual tissue has spread. It 310 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 4: doesn't mean that you're like in more pain or life 311 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 4: pain at a different stage. 312 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: But if it gets detected at stage one, is it 313 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: curable or is it like. 314 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: It's it's not. 315 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 4: But I do think you could take actions with like 316 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 4: certain hormones and getting ahead of your surgery. 317 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: Like for me, when they went in, it was so bad. 318 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 4: Like I think if they had gone in maybe three 319 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: years prior, like it wouldn't maybe have spread to my lung, 320 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 4: Like maybe I wouldn't have had so many adhesions. 321 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, which, like that's another layer to it, I'm 322 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: sure is like the fact that it takes so long 323 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: means that it ends up being so much more severe 324 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: in the women when it does get detected. Yeah, exactly, 325 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: it's so frustrating. Okay, so yeah you get on the show. 326 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: We lost track, but I'm glad we're talking about this. 327 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: Obviously it was a big part of your one on 328 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: one day, which we will touch on as well in 329 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: this podcast and just talk more about you know, what 330 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: it was like opening up to Joey about do you 331 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: refer to it as a condition in what how do 332 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: you do it? 333 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: I always say, yeah, a condition disease. I think for 334 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: me it's just something I deal with every day. But yeah, 335 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 4: I opened up to him about my condition and how 336 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: it impacts me. 337 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, gotcha. Okay, Well let's do I want? 338 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you step out of the limo, How you feeling, 339 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? What do you think about Joey 340 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: is your type? 341 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 342 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: I was so nervous obviously that whole day leading up 343 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 4: to it, But when I stepped at the limo, I 344 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 4: felt I know, it sounds so cheesy, but like I 345 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 4: did feel immediately at ease because he has such a 346 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: chill personality and like demeanor that as soon as I 347 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: walked up to him, I kind of felt like I 348 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 4: know about this guy, like this is our first date 349 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: kind of I don't know, just felt very like an 350 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 4: initial intro, not like oh I'm on the Bachelor, and 351 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 4: there's all these cameras and lights, like it was really 352 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: just the two of us in that moment. 353 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: Very special. He was so kind. But then I walked 354 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: in the house and I realized I was the first one, 355 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: and so like that was a. 356 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: Bit of a shock more than meeting Joey. I was like, oh, okay, 357 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: that was I'm glad I knew that after. 358 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so interesting. I always because sometimes they'll show 359 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: someone come out of the lemo, but they're not necessarily 360 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: the first one that actually came out of the lemo. Yeah, 361 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: like the little switch you through. But yeah, but I 362 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: feel like that's exciting because you probably like, Okay, I'm 363 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: the first girl in his mind tonight, which is kind 364 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: of cool. But I also would have been happy to 365 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: not know that. 366 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 4: Before saying I'm so glad they didn't tell me before, 367 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 4: because I think I would have been like, I got 368 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 4: to really pull it together, like he's been waiting for 369 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 4: this for months, like I gotta. 370 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: I don't even know. I don't know. It's for the. 371 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: Best, for the best. So how does night one go? 372 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: I know, it's like the longest night ever, but we 373 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: get to talk to him. 374 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 4: You guys know, it's a long night. I mean I 375 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 4: didn't anticipate it being that long, so it was. It 376 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: was a long night. I got really lucky and got 377 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 4: to talk to him. Not everyone did, so I was 378 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 4: fortunate for that. I gave him a ball marker from 379 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: the golf course my dad and I play in Hill 380 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 4: and Head, so he seemed excited that I golfed, and yeah, 381 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 4: we had a good talk. 382 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: We kissed, which I was not expecting. 383 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 4: Like all my friends back at home were like, what 384 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 4: this kind of off brand for me. I'm a little 385 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 4: like stand offish until I trust someone. But I guess 386 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 4: the trust that was already kind of there. I just 387 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: felt safe around him. But yeah, night when there was 388 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 4: stuff going on, but I kind of just kept to 389 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 4: myself and was nervous for the roast ceremony. But I 390 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 4: felt good about our talk. 391 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: Nice, feel like that's like all you can ask for 392 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: out of night, Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 393 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: And then before so before currently you get your one 394 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: on one what's your connection? Like are you are you 395 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: able to spend any time with Joey? How's it going? 396 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? It was going well. 397 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: I got to talk to him at the talent show 398 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 4: a little bit before we went out or excuse me, 399 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 4: the pageant, and I got to talk to him that evening. 400 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, let's talk about the paget because missus right, 401 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 402 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeah that was so Yeah, I did I did, I should. Yeah. 403 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: There was a little animosity surrounding the kiss. 404 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: How the kiss heard around the world. Yeah, there was 405 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: some animosity for sure, which I'm so conflict adverse, Like 406 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 4: I was like, it's fine, like someone else take the crown, 407 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: Like all good. I understand, you know, I think some 408 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 4: girls poured their heart and soul. They were doing flips 409 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 4: and cartwheels and singing, and I mean, they're all so talented. 410 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 4: I just stood there, but I was trying to think 411 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: of something that I could do to show him I 412 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: do come out of my shell and like I am 413 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 4: fun and bubbly. I'm not this like super quiet, serious, 414 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 4: reserved person. 415 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: I think because I was nervous. That's how I had 416 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 3: been coming across. So I was like, let's do it. 417 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: Why not? You know, I took a tequila shot before, 418 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 3: but I did it. No. 419 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: I liked it. I liked that your talent incorporated him 420 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: into it. I think that's always nice to like get 421 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: him involved. And like I said, when we were capping, 422 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: and I was like, you know what, sometimes you gotta 423 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: work smarter, not harder. Just because she wasn't upside down 424 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: doesn't mean she didn't have a good talent. 425 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, the other girls did great, so we all it 426 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: was fun. 427 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: Did you do you have like a favorite group date 428 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: activity like that you've done up until this point? 429 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 4: Up until this point, I think the wedding was fun 430 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 4: because one, I've just never thought i'd be in a 431 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 4: wedding dress before my wedding day. And then we all 432 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 4: got to have individual time with him to work the room. 433 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 4: At the reception, they didn't show everyone's but that was 434 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 4: like our second time actually talking and it felt comfortable 435 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 4: because it was just the two of us, like walking around, 436 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 4: we went to the bar. So I thought the wedding 437 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 4: was fun, that the pageant was really out of my 438 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 4: comfort zone, and then there was more group dates that 439 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: were a little more my speed further through this season. 440 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, the pageant, the gimmicky ones are always a 441 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 2: little more awkward. 442 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's I'm just like, oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm 443 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 4: definitely an awkward person, So like being in that environment 444 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: just like an answer. 445 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's tough. 446 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 4: But I give those date planners credit because they always 447 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: they come together so well. But in the moment, you're 448 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: kind of like, all right, we're doing this, but then 449 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 4: you see it and you're like, this is awesome. 450 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 451 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: So we get to Malta and you get your one 452 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: on one date with Joey, were you like, did you 453 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: have a sense that like maybe it was going to 454 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: be you that week, like your time was maybe coming 455 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: or were you totally surprised. 456 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 4: Well, there's there's two pieces to this story. So the 457 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: first one is my luggage was lost. Upon arriving in Malta, 458 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: I was like, look, Joey's amazing. I want to be 459 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 4: on a date this week. Just whatever you do, do 460 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: not put me on a date tomorrow. Like I don't 461 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 4: have any of my stuff. I was the only girl. 462 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 4: It's just very like of course, uh and so's it 463 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 4: was funny when they called my name. I was like, 464 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 4: you know, I was really excited, and they ended up 465 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 4: finding my luggage, so it all worked out. But it 466 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 4: was just like I wasn't really prepared for at the 467 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 4: night before because of that conversation. So like I didn't like, 468 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: I didn't self tan, I didn't take a shower, like 469 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 4: little things that I would do if I knew I 470 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 4: was having gome on on one. 471 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: But as soon as. 472 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: I like got there with Joey, I was like, this 473 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 4: is I mean, it was the best day ever. 474 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it looks that's actually funny. On on my season, 475 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: Michelle Young, they she lost a piece of luggage and 476 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 2: like was never to be found, like it wasn't. It 477 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: wasn't the show, like the airline lost her luggage and 478 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: she never found it, and she was like borrowing her 479 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 2: roommate Ryan's clothes like the whole season because I think 480 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: like the one that she lost was like all her 481 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: clothes and jewelry, and like the one that she had 482 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: was like toilet trees and like shoes and stuff. So 483 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: she's like, I'm screwed, but I'm very glad that they 484 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 2: found your luggage. But that is funny because it's like 485 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 2: the one time you're like I don't want to date 486 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 2: tomorrow is the time that you're like, okay, I guess 487 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: on the dates. 488 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 4: Just how life works out and on you know. It 489 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: was it was truly like I will remember that day 490 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 4: for the rest of my life. It was so fun, 491 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 4: Like I got to do the walking tour and I 492 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 4: travel a lot, so like getting to actually like walk 493 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 4: around the city and see Malta. It was it was 494 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: just casual and fun, like it didn't feel like we 495 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 4: were on a bachelor date. 496 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I always say like those are the best dates, 497 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: like just the ones that are the most organic. What 498 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: was it like being in that church? I know, you 499 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 2: kind of talked about your grandfather, Yeah, and you got 500 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: to interact with Yeah. 501 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 3: So it was emotional. It was really emotional. 502 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: It was I think being away from you, you know this, 503 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: like being away from your whole family, and then like 504 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: just your emotions are high and then you know, I 505 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 4: was in the church and I went to church with 506 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: my grandfather growing up, and he had passed away recently, 507 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 4: and because of COVID, I wasn't able to go to 508 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 4: the funeral, and just there was so many emotions that 509 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 4: just hit me at once. I felt like I hadn't 510 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 4: been in a church like that since I was with him, 511 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 4: And it was just a really full circle moment because 512 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 4: he always said he wanted to meet my person, and 513 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 4: like we both golfed together, like we were just so close, 514 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 4: and like that was at the end of the day 515 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 4: and so like that being kind of how we closed 516 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: out the date and just everything going so well with Joey, 517 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: I just felt like I was really supposed to be 518 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: there in that moment. 519 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: Uh. It was. Yeah, it was very special. 520 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 4: And then the priest came over and talked to us 521 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 4: about what makes a healthy marriage and talked about a 522 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 4: couple that he's married in the church and yeah, he 523 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: just gave us some advice and it was Yeah, it 524 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: was it was beautiful. 525 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 3: I'm excited to watch that back. 526 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you starting to feel like Joey could be 527 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: your person? Is that happening yet? 528 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure, I think. 529 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 4: I mean I was definitely starting to think like, oh, okay, 530 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 4: this is like I'm not just on here, you know, 531 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 4: to meet someone and see if there's something there. Like 532 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 4: I'm like, the something there is there. It's just a 533 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 4: matter of like kind of getting down, like opening up 534 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 4: with a big thing for me that night, Like I 535 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 4: wanted to open up about my health with him because 536 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: I wanted to make sure like that wasn't something that 537 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 4: you know, he wouldn't want to that could affect his 538 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 4: decision with me. So at that point, I was like, 539 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 4: the feelings are there. I just think we need to 540 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: kind of figure out under the covers, like our values, 541 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 4: what we want long term in our timelines. Timelines was 542 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 4: a huge thing for me. 543 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah we we we see you mentioned and we definitely 544 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: don't have to go there if you're uncomfortable talking about it. 545 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: But your past with your acts of it being an 546 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: issue for him, do you want to talk about that 547 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: at all. 548 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can touch on it. 549 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 4: I think, you know, for him, my health did was 550 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 4: ultimately something that impacted the end of our relationship. I 551 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 4: think he saw it as I would never say a burden, 552 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 4: but you know, just something that would potentially affect you know, 553 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: us being able to have a family long term or 554 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 4: you know, my ability to be a mother, like I'm 555 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 4: not always is one hundred percent every day, And so 556 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 4: for him, he saw that as sometimes a challenge, which 557 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 4: you can imagine on my side, like is really difficult 558 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 4: because you know, when we broke up, like hearing from 559 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 4: multiple people that it was like he just wasn't sure 560 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 4: he could handle your health condition, He wasn't sure that 561 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 4: he could support you in the way that you need 562 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: to be supported. And for me it was very much like, 563 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: but I mean, I do a really good job at 564 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 4: like holding my pain in and not showing it outwardly. 565 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 4: So I'm already self conscious about this, and to hear 566 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: it was like one of the deciding factors to ultimately 567 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 4: not move towards a marriage with me, like has made 568 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 4: me not want to open up about any of this 569 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 4: with another person. 570 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can imagine that being on TV opening up 571 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: to Joey this new relationship about your endo is already scary, 572 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: and then to have that added layer of like, well, 573 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: the last time I did this, it ended the relationship. Yeah, 574 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 2: is just a whole other life of like anxiety exactly. 575 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 4: I mean, you said it perfectly, but I felt I 576 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: had to because on the show, you have such limited time, 577 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 4: and so I wanted to be fair to Joey. And 578 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: if it's Joey was never going to go in and 579 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 4: say like I don't want to be with you because 580 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 4: you can't have kids. That's not the That's not the 581 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 4: conversation that we were having. It was more like, hey, 582 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 4: I'm dealing with x Y and Z. I might be 583 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 4: on a little bit more of an expedited timeline than 584 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 4: some of these other girls that are here because of 585 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: x Y and Z. Like how does that make you feel? 586 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 4: And I genuinely wanted his reaction because it's okay if 587 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: he wants, you know, five to seven years before kids. 588 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that's what he said, but like 589 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 4: his emotions and reaction are valid, and I would rather 590 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 4: have that early on than like drag out a connection 591 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: and then it come up later that to me wouldn't 592 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 4: be fair to him totally. 593 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: That totally makes sense because if he were to say, 594 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: like I'm not ready to have kids, I don't want 595 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: a family for ten years, or like I don't I mean, 596 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: we know he wants kids, but like, it's a serious 597 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: conversation to have and it's one that you know you 598 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: have added layers to add to. So how did that 599 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: conversation go? Like, obviously you did an amazing job of 600 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: expressing yourself, he saw. How did it feel, you know, 601 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 2: hearing Joe's response. 602 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 4: Hearing Joe's response was well, like probably forever changed my 603 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 4: perception on opening up about this in my life and 604 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 4: my story and my health and relationships. He I mean, 605 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 4: he brought me to tears that night. It was he 606 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 4: was so genuine and sincere and such a good listener. 607 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 3: I felt heard. I didn't feel judged or like analyzed. 608 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 4: I felt like he was really just listening to me 609 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 4: and empathetic to what I went through. He related to 610 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 4: me in many ways in his own personal life, and 611 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 4: he was like, look, that's not an issue for me. 612 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 4: Like I think with the right person, whoever that is 613 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: for him, that they would figure it out. And you 614 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 4: know that could be through things like adopt or you know, 615 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 4: surrogacy whatever. That looks like kids are important to him 616 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 4: as well, but that's not going to be detrimental to 617 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 4: his choice and moving. 618 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: Forward with me. And yeah, he was just he was 619 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 3: so kind that night and it was it was really beautiful. 620 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: That's amazing. Yeah, I feel like he's really demonstrated. 621 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: Like we said, he's the he's the best receiver joke. 622 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 2: He's like, he's an amazing receiver. 623 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 4: He he's an incredible he's also he's such a good 624 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 4: listener and he's yeah, he's he's he was raised well 625 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 4: like he is, but you know what it is, he's 626 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: just a kind person. So he actually cares because you'll 627 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 4: talk to some people and it's like you can tell 628 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 4: they're registering it, but like kind of fifty percent and 629 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 4: fifty percent out, Like he was locked in. I mean, 630 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 4: he was listening to me. And in a situation like that, 631 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 4: it's so important. 632 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 633 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's let's jump a little bit too. Yeah, 634 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Maria fiasco and why we want 635 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: I want your opinion on two situations, but the first one, 636 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: what were your thoughts on just the Maria in Sydney 637 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: of it all. 638 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, because we also know that you were the only 639 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: one there before they went on to them, because everyone 640 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: else is on the group day. 641 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: I forgot. 642 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, yeah, I can start. 643 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 4: My initial thoughts were back at the mansion is where 644 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 4: I think that conversation should have been left. I think, 645 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 4: you know, everyone's emotions and feelings are valid, Medina's were valid. 646 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 4: At the mansion, Sidney was trying to stand up for 647 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 4: her friend, and Maria was trying to, you know, advocate 648 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 4: for herself and say, hey, I did not bring this 649 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 4: up in any way, shape or form to hurt someone. 650 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: I brought this up just because I wanted to know 651 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 4: who was talking and kind of you know, clear her 652 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 4: name in the situation, because she didn't mean her come 653 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 4: in a mean way. There was no bad intentions there. 654 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 4: It's hard. I really think this dragged on for too long. 655 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 4: It took away time from a lot of girls that 656 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 4: had also their own beautiful stories to tell, and so 657 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 4: I wish it was left at the mansion. 658 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: I think it. 659 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 4: I think the initial conversation could have just been squashed, 660 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 4: but it continued on, obviously right to Malta in Spain 661 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 4: and and throughout the season and that day that it 662 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 4: was just the three of us, Like you could cut 663 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 4: the tension with a knife. I mean you could just tell, 664 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 4: like tensions are high, they're going on a two on one. 665 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 4: They're fully aware of what that comes with, right, Like 666 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 4: I think the date card that I got, of course 667 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 4: me had to read it was like one rows, two girls, 668 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 4: one stay as one goes, And I was like, I 669 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: was even just like I got to go to my room, like. 670 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: Here's the card, how do we get that down? 671 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: I like toss that out the window at the hotel. 672 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was it was. 673 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 4: I I did sit down with both of them, both 674 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 4: of their you know, they they were they were stressed. 675 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: Who do if you had to put money on it 676 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: before they went on that date, who did you think 677 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: was coming back? 678 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: That's a good question. 679 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: That is a good question. 680 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 4: I think based on what I saw, I thought Maria 681 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 4: and Joey had a stronger connection. I was on both 682 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: group dates with Maria. 683 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 3: I was on one group date with Sydney and she 684 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 3: didn't have one the first week, So I just thought 685 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: I could always tell there was something there between Joey 686 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: and Maria. Like I tell by the way he looked 687 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 3: at her. I think he was intrigued by. 688 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 4: Her personality, like she is very outgoing, So I kind 689 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 4: of thought, if it was solely based on connection, Maria 690 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 4: was going to come back. 691 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: We saw when Sydney's suitcase gets pulled Leah Jess. I'm 692 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: sure there was a few other people, but those were 693 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: the two main ones. I remember were very surprised that 694 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: Sidney was going home. Where do you think their shot 695 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: came from? Do you think it was like wishful thinking 696 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: or do you think you know? 697 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 4: I think it was rooted in the fact that they 698 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 4: have their own perception of this. 699 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 3: They're very close to Sidney. 700 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 4: They were you know, when you're on this experience, you 701 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 4: form strong relationships because it's so unique, and they were, 702 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 4: you know, really good friends with her, and they heard 703 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 4: her side of the story, and they weren't as close 704 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 4: to Maria. 705 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: So I think it was twofold. 706 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 4: I think it was oh, Maria's still staying like they 707 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 4: were upset about that, and then I think it was 708 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 4: also like we're losing our friend here. 709 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: But that night was hard. 710 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna lie like I've since had 711 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 4: a conversation with Maria and apologize to her because I 712 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,239 Speaker 4: wish I spoke up that night and it's like, you know, 713 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: you go through this, everyone has their like regrets. But 714 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 4: when she walked in, it was silent, and I wish 715 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,719 Speaker 4: that I had said, like, look, today must have been 716 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 4: hard for both of you, but like, I'm proud of 717 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: you forgetting the rose, and like I I know Joey 718 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 4: made that decision for a reason. She didn't deserve to 719 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 4: walk into a silent room, like that wasn't fair to her. 720 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can imagine that would have been super horrible. 721 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: Everyone's like yeah, because then you walk in and you 722 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: you're kind of on this a little bit of a 723 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: high because at least you're still there and he gives 724 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: you a rose, and then everybody's. 725 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 3: Like, oh, guys, it was bad. Like it was bad, 726 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 3: but like it was, it was bad. It was bad. 727 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: It was quiet. It was because you know, she didn't 728 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 3: do anything wrong. 729 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 4: She was she's also dating Joey, so he made the 730 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 4: choice and she came back and she didn't deserve to 731 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 4: walk into that. 732 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: So but then we do see Leyah, the Leyah Jess 733 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: call calling her Maria bitch and all, well, I was 734 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: going to refer to Leah pulled Medina aside and said, like, 735 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: you were so nice to her when she came in. 736 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: Was that like later in the night then, like do 737 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: you think Medina maybe had those same feelings you did? 738 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: Of like that was really awkward, Like I'm gonna go 739 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: say something to Maria, just basically saying like hey, happy 740 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: you're back, you look great, like hope your hope your 741 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: day was good. 742 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 4: Here's the thing, like, yes, she brought up the initial 743 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 4: comment so people could say, like, why is she not 744 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 4: still involved? But her and Maria said so at the 745 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: end of the day at that point, she was not 746 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 4: involved anymore. I think that the description or maybe what 747 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: was mis confused was like Leah and Sidney were so close, 748 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 4: so I think Leyah was standing up for her friend, 749 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 4: but Medina didn't really do anything wrong, like she were 750 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 4: allowed to be friends with multiple people right across different groups, 751 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 4: Like that's inevitable with thirty two women. So I just 752 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 4: again it was kind of like why are we still 753 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 4: dragging this on in Spain? 754 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, totally, who are your friends in the house. 755 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 4: I was really good friends with Kelsey A. She's an 756 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 4: amazing human. I think Madina's great Maria, the sisters, Evelyn, Chrisa. 757 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 4: I mean, I could go on like just Daisy's wonderful, 758 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 4: but you know, I think obviously you gravitate to certain people, 759 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 4: and like Kelsey A, Caitlin, Medina and I were definitely 760 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 4: the closest. 761 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 2: Nice I do want to jump back to what you 762 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 2: were asking, which was which was what is your take 763 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 2: on the blow up between Jess and Maria. 764 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 4: It was crazy to watch, and I think there was 765 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: a lot of built up emotion. You know, everyone gets that, 766 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 4: like it's a pent up anger that's like week after 767 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 4: week after week. And like in Malta, Sinney went home 768 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 4: and Jess and Sidney were such good friends, are such 769 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 4: good friends, and you know, I think Jess and Maria 770 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 4: like you can go back to kind of night one, 771 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 4: right when Jess kissed him twice, like there's been like 772 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 4: people kind of poking the bear, and I think in 773 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 4: Spain it finally just erupted and Jets obviously called Maria 774 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 4: a name, and you know, I don't think that was 775 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 4: warranted at all, and I do think that they've they 776 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 4: had the opportunity to talk that night, but it was 777 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 4: it was crazy, It was very explosive. 778 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say I feel like as much as 779 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: there was a lot of Sydney Maria confrontation, that was 780 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: like the most heated moment I've seen, Like there was 781 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 2: a lot of emotion behind that one. We do see 782 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: you like console Maria when she's kind of trying, yeah, 783 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: to leave with the Leyah drama. You just say, you know, 784 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 2: it's okay. You've been like pushed and pushed and pushed, 785 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: so like it's okay that you're having a moment. And 786 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: then we see you make a comment in regards to 787 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 2: the Jess and Maria argument where you say, you know, 788 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 2: I think there might be some jealousy on Jess's side. 789 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 2: Do you think that Maria now getting this attention and 790 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: reassurance from Joey kind of rubbed some people the wrong way, 791 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: especially maybe the girls that were friends with Sidney. 792 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 793 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 4: Look, I mean, I'm thirty, I'm confident in who I am. 794 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 4: If I was on this twenty four, i'd be jealous 795 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 4: of Maria too, Like she's so confident, she's stunning, Like 796 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 4: she's seemingly good at everything. The girls like doing like 797 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 4: you know, backflips across the stage, like she's hilarious. I mean, right, 798 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 4: it's intimidating to be in a room with someone like that. 799 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 4: I'm not I don't know if if it was jealousy 800 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 4: with Jess or if it was more just like the 801 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 4: personal uh feeling like personally attacked as her best friend 802 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 4: went home because of an output of Maria's action. But 803 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 4: I do think, yeah, I think that some of the 804 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 4: younger girls in the house, which I hate to say 805 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 4: that because this whole season feels like it's been about age, 806 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 4: but like, I think someone at twenty four and someone 807 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 4: at thirty one are in a different phase of life, 808 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 4: and I think sometimes there might have been some jealousy 809 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 4: there just seeing how strong of a connection Marian and 810 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 4: Joey had. 811 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. 812 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 813 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: Was it at least entertaining? I mean, because you guys 814 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: don't have anything to do. 815 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 3: You guys, I was just eating charcuterie and having sangria, 816 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 3: which was. 817 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: Great and as you should in Spain, sounds. 818 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 3: Terrible, but yeah, I was. I was. I wasn't like 819 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 3: entertained by people feeling sad, but I was like, it's crazy. 820 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get it out of the two places 821 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: so far that you traveled to. Which one do you favor? Spain? 822 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: Well, I love, I love Spain. I took Spanish all 823 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 3: through college and like, I love the culture. But if 824 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about just like the experience there Malta. 825 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 4: Because of the date, the one on one, I got 826 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 4: to see so much of Malta. When Jesse told us Malta, 827 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 4: I don't I don't know if it was dumb or like, 828 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 4: I just didn't know where that was. 829 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: I was just going to ask you that because like 830 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: I feel like no one has even heard of it. 831 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: I was like, is it a country? Is it a city? 832 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 2: Like where is it located? 833 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 3: I was like, are we going to Asia? Like I 834 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 3: didn't know? 835 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 4: And so I he said international and like I hate flying. 836 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 4: It was the whole thing I was taking in a 837 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 4: lot in that moment. But the fifteen hours to Turkey 838 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 4: was like I thought we were going to Nashville. 839 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 3: The rumor in the house was we were going to Nashville. 840 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 3: So like I really had to like shift my mind, like, 841 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 3: oh no, We're going to Turkey. Like anyways, I loved Malta. 842 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 3: It's beautiful. 843 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 4: It's right below the boot in Sicily, and I feel like, 844 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it was a dream. 845 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 846 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw when Maria when they were on there too, 847 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 2: and when Maria was like, we're only a thirty minute 848 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: boat ride from Sicily, I'm like, oh that's kind of cool. 849 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 2: Like yeah, it's like maybe we'll go to Sicily and 850 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 2: then we'll go to Malta. 851 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys should go. 852 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 2: Okay, we are going to get into a game with 853 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: you before we let you go. It's super it's rapid fire. 854 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: It's just like all easy, fun questions about you and yeah, 855 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 2: you ready, I guess, let's do it. Okay. What is 856 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 2: your go to breakfast? 857 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 4: Go to breakfast is probably an Osi you bowl. I 858 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 4: love them. I like make one every morning. 859 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 2: You make it at home? 860 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. 861 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 4: I used to buy them, but they're like twenty dollars eat, 862 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 4: so I was like, this is not fiscally responsible. So 863 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 4: I get the little package and whole foods and like 864 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 4: you know, like for the granola and some fruit. 865 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. So yeah, what is your favorite color 866 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 2: to wear? 867 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 3: Green? 868 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 2: Which I mean perfect do green eyes? 869 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 3: They're like green blue. I don't know, it changed, it 870 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 3: kind of changed with my emotions. Sometimes people would say 871 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 3: that like if I cry, they get more green and 872 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 3: then if I'm so interesting. 873 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's like a Disney character. What's your 874 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 2: favorite season? 875 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 4: My favorite season, I mean typical answer, but fall. Love 876 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 4: the fall and everything that comes with it. Halloween is 877 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 4: my favorite holiday. 878 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 2: Halloween to be your holiday. 879 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 3: I love Halloween. I know that's so retroversial. It is rare. 880 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 4: I just I love like spooky things. And I know 881 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 4: it's like leading up to Thanksgiving. 882 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, I love is that weird? I just 883 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, I. 884 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: Just don't like dressing I just don't like dressing up. 885 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: But I love the idea, you know. 886 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 2: Spooky season. Yeah, I love like we'll get like fall candles. 887 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 4: Like yeah, like passing out candy, like you know, Christmas 888 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 4: is on its way. Yeah, it's a good time. 889 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 2: What is a big green flag for you? 890 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 3: Good relationship with their family? 891 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 2: What a relationship deal breaker for you? 892 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 3: A relationship deal breaker would be someone who. 893 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 4: Cheats, for sure, or someone who's not driven in their 894 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 4: career or I shouldn't even say their career, but like 895 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 4: not passionate about what they're doing in their life. 896 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 2: What's your dream vacation destination. 897 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 3: I want to go to Japan so badly. 898 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 2: We are saying maybe this we might go Joe's bend. 899 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: Ben It's amazing, Is it amazing? Yeah, we want to 900 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: try to go this year. 901 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 3: You guys have to tish. 902 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see if it happens. I'm hoping it, 903 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 2: cross my fingers. What's one thing on your bucket list? 904 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 4: I think on the bucket list would be I really 905 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 4: want to run like a marathon or a triathlon, just 906 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 4: because when I was originally diagnosed with like all my 907 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 4: health stuff, they were like, you probably won't be able 908 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 4: to do like extreme sports or anything that's really hard 909 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 4: on your body anymore, which like growing up playing sports 910 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 4: that was devastating for me to hear. 911 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 3: And I kind of want to prove my doctor's wrong and. 912 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 4: Be like, even though I like because it's a long 913 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 4: time and heard on your body, so they're worried it 914 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 4: might like exasperate my symptoms or make me feel like 915 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 4: a lot worse with my back. So I kind of 916 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 4: want to like run one and then give my doctor, 917 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 4: like my like bib to put in their off. 918 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, you should do it the city if you if 919 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: you could run it anywhere, were would you want to run? 920 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 3: Probably New York? 921 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 2: Joe did the New York Marathon this past night. 922 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it's they say it's they it's I 923 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: didn't know that. They say New York's one of the 924 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: harder courses. Yeah, but yeah, it was very rewarding. I 925 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: did on the right under four hours, so it was 926 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: three three fifty eight, three fifty eight. 927 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did not run it. 928 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 3: I didn't. 929 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 2: No, I told one of the signs I did. I 930 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: had a sign that said run joe Run, I love it. 931 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 2: What is Oh? Do you have any tattoos? 932 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 3: I do not, but I'm not a post to them. 933 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 3: I just haven't found the right thing. Yeah. 934 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 2: What's your favorite physical quality of Joey's physical quality? 935 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 3: His eyes? 936 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 4: I feel like everyone probably says that, but not even 937 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 4: just since the color, like they're very kind. 938 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is your or who is your go to 939 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 2: when you need advice? 940 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 4: My best friend again we she was my first friend 941 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 4: and when I reached the United States and she's more 942 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 4: like a sister. 943 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 2: What is your favorite beauty product? At the moment, I know, 944 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: I'm struggling to read them, like, wait, what is this? 945 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 4: So I know the answer to this one the Elf 946 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 4: lip oil because on the show, all the girls use 947 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 4: the dr one, but it's so expensive and I just 948 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 4: can't justify that. So the Elf one's like nine dollars 949 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 4: and it's amazing. 950 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a good due. 951 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 3: To do, not to do a product placement. 952 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 2: No, let me. 953 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 1: See, I love Elf is blown up because of that. 954 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 2: Yes, because the Oil Good Job Joe podcast we're just 955 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 2: talking about the other day of Clarence has a good 956 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 2: a good dupe for it as well. What is your 957 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 2: favorite memory of your time on the show. 958 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 3: My favorite memory is would be the dinner with Joey. 959 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 4: It was one just like an incredibly beautiful setting and 960 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 4: then it was something like it was something I didn't 961 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 4: even know its possible to have in a relationship, like 962 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 4: his reaction really changing how I view dating and myself. 963 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 2: That's amazing. And then to end it off, can you 964 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 2: give us a teaser for what's to come this season? 965 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 4: I think what's to come this season? I think, you know, 966 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 4: obviously it's a very romantic season. I think Joey has 967 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 4: an incredible cast of women, so there's going to be 968 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 4: stronger relationships starting to form, and I think with that 969 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 4: comes heightened emotions. 970 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 3: Obviously some drama. 971 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 4: You know, that's continuing from previous episodes, but I really 972 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 4: think the rest of the season is just going to 973 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,280 Speaker 4: focus on the love stories. And yeah, I'm just hopeful 974 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 4: that Joey, he's very deserving to find his person, and 975 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 4: hopeful every hopefully everyone gets to watch that come to life. 976 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 1: Nice, amazing, LEXI, thank you so much for coming on 977 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: beat your Happy Hour. 978 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 3: Thank you guys for having me. 979 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: Of course, thank you to all our listeners for joining us. 980 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 2: And of course a big thank you to our listeners. 981 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 2: Make sure to subscribe, but we have new episodes of 982 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 2: Happy Hour every single week, with exclusive interviews and episode 983 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 2: recaps all season long. Thanks for listening. 984 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,760 Speaker 1: Bye bye 985 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 3: Mm hmm.