1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast cleans as bests from the 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Factory of Sadness. Welcome back to another edition of the 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Ands, and 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm joined by a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, Greg Rosenthal, a lot of boys. Hey, Dan, 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: it's happening. I had to spend one summer at an 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: asbestos awareness class. Was that part of your approbation? Now, 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: I was involved with my old law firm job. They 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: were remodeling and I was the only one allowed on 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: the floor, so I had to go. I think I 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: probably got asbestosis for a while, contributed to my asthma 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: the entire summer. Well, you had to go like for 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: a week or two. Chris Wesley's Roaring thirties. I was 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: in my twenties when this, when this happened. Um, well, 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad. We're all glad that you're still with us. 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: And while on the subject of health, I just want 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: to send out a wish for a speedy recovery to 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: someone who's very close to us at this podcast, someone 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: we look up to. We're back their work, suffered an 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: unfortunate injury and an athletic uh, contest of some kind 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: bano of you two. So get well soon, but just 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: kidding Daniel Jeremiah towards Achilles Tendon playing basketball. DJ. So 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: I know that we sometimes or I have have my issues, 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: don't include us on this. However, I did not want 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: to see that happen. And to Damashek who said on 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: Twitter that on some level I was using this as 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: an angle to get onto DJ show, not totally inaccurate, 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: but at the same time, I never wanted to happen 29 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: this way. Get well soon. I sent him a message 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: on Twitter, a d M as they call it, and said, 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, sorry to hear about this, and you wrote back, 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: thanks dude. So he is still operating online. He is 33 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: still with us on Twitter and other various portals. DJ 34 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: operates Twitter like he's Dan Cortez. What does that mean? 35 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: Thank you dude, and Cortes reference and spoke in this 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: a guy who like only watched the first Real World 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: season right there. We have a great show today, but seriously, 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: get well soon, DJ. That was that was bad news. 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: We have a great show. We're gonna buy actually buy 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: a stay. How you are do not take shots of bottle? 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: You know, that's you know, the guy almost fell out 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: of a freaking plane too. Anyway, we have a great 43 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: show today. We're gonna get into one of our favorite games. 44 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: We we love to play our games. Uh, what's more likely? 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna throw out some some what's more likely questions 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: to the group here. I have some written up just 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 1: doing my job, Greg, I know we didn't prepare any 48 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: so I hope you're not counting on that. Yeah, we'll 49 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: also get into the Thursday night game a little Thursday 50 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: night preview. Uh. And also, of course we're gonna do 51 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: some news before that, Greg, you wanted to reach in. 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, an email we received recently about or what 53 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: were you doing? You look, we've got a whole you know, 54 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: a great new member of the team helping us on 55 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, social media, Mike, and you know he had 56 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: the idea social media, Mike, and you know, he was saying, 57 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: it'd be cool if we like read one of the 58 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: comments on our iTunes page as a way to kind of, 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, hey, go give us some five stars and iTunes, 60 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, help us out a little bit with not 61 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: many comments lately, all that it helps the show. So 62 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna read out lie, do you want to read it, Dan? 63 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: Maybe if it's positive? Everything positive? Alright, this is from 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: I need gas to jeez, alright, buddy, Hanging there. Best 65 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: NFL podcast ever, five stars. These guys are nothing but 66 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: hilarious and intelligent. Each member of the team has a 67 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: unique personality, and it's not just the group agreeing on everything. 68 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: The arguments are half the fund They involved the audience, 69 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: don't pull punches and are great about keeping an unbiased 70 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: take on every team. Mostly it's talking about you there. 71 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: Mark my number one overall podcasts and number one NFL 72 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: should be daily show based purely on entertainment value. That's 73 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: pretty good. That's a good one, which one of you 74 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: guys wrote that that's almost uncomfortably nice. I don't like 75 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: it here. I felt uncouple of reading it at first, 76 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: but then as the compliments started to wash over, it 77 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: felt good and I just start getting into the read 78 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: a little bit. I like it, you know, So if 79 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: you maybe it's a little bit much, let's just you know, 80 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: wait's we're at the point. We're just gonna gloat over 81 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: ourselves at this point. Have you been around the last 82 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: year and a half. That's all we do. Maybe maybe 83 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: people are here this, they'll leave their own and you 84 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: know they'll get written. Maybe they can be more creative 85 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: than this. It'll be funny something. You know, if you 86 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: write review a nice job, none of this four star 87 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: garbage or three star not so bad, not so good, 88 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: five star classic podcast, we might read it on the air. 89 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: So if you go to iTunes, this is despicable stuff 90 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 1: we're doing right now. But that's how you win the game. 91 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: You play to win the game. We won the game 92 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: last year without pandering to our audience. Now we pander. 93 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: Oh we pander in two K fourteen. Uh, let's do 94 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: some news. But behind the glass, there's something different going 95 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: on there in a familiar face. Look at this handsome face, 96 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: and man that so eligible as a bachelor once drew 97 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: the crushing admiration of one of our female fans. He 98 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: is the immortal gold standard. Oh yeah, don't act like 99 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: you don't have a sound bit there. I didn't. I 100 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: felt round of aplause. Give yourself a fake round of applause. 101 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: Can we do this one? Sure? Why not? No one? 102 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: No one hanging out with TV too much. No one 103 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: has helped the bank account of cooling the gang more 104 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: than the around the NFL podcast, So if any new 105 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: listeners to the show this year. Zach Goldman, the gold 106 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: Standard was our producer for much of this offseason and 107 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: last year. I can't even really remember anymore. It's all 108 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: just a blur, but it's good to happen so much. 109 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: TD busy working on another project he deemed more important 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: than ourn, so gold Center steps up and does his job. 111 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: We also got Zach Dressler work in the video side 112 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: of it today. Z Drizzle, is that what you came up? 113 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: And social media Mic and of course social media Mike 114 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: as well. Who's going to take us to the promised land? 115 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: Gold Center? What's going on with you? Anything new? So 116 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: little my friends, just back here in the promised land 117 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: of Culver City, trying to trying to make it in America? 118 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: Do you have a girlfriend to that one woman out 119 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: there that was all over it? You know, I don't 120 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: have a girlfriend right now. And if you give me 121 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: a five star rating on iTunes, who knows? And I 122 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: are going to go on a double date at some point. 123 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm in alright, gold Centered, welcome back. We love having 124 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 1: you here. Let's do some news. Let's do it. We start. 125 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: I'm used to having one of TD's little sound bites. 126 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: There now little you a little bit about missing out 127 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: on t DA. There's a that he's locked in another 128 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: room with duct tape over his mouth. Cannot confirm this fact. 129 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: We told you about abductions in a broom closet. All right, 130 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: let's start. Let's start with some news and we'll go 131 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: with Adrian Peterson, who was suspended officially without pay for 132 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: the rest of two thousand fourteen. This came down on Tuesday. 133 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: The NFL announced that Peterson will be uh out without 134 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: pay and cannot be considered for reinstatement before April two 135 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: thousand fifteen. Uh. They there was an appeal a correct 136 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: rag already that well, his grievance was heard already and 137 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: that has been shot down by an independent arbitrator. So 138 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: that isn't making the NFL or or you know, Adrian 139 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: Peterson very happy. So it's hard to see him coming 140 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: back to the field anytime soon. Yeah. So this is 141 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: uh and that's it. I mean, barring something really crazy, 142 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson will not play this season. Uh, you know, 143 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: without get too much into it, I find the whole 144 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: thing very frustrating. I don't think anybody handled this well, 145 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: starting with Peterson's actions off the field, how the Vikings 146 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: try to get him back on the field and then 147 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: pulled him off and then turn their back on him. 148 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: In my in my mind, the way the NFL maybe 149 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: wasn't exactly done in a way that that is easy 150 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: to follow and follows the letter of the law they'reind 151 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: It kind of seems like it's going all over the place. 152 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: So it just ends with Adrian Peterson, one of the 153 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: great players of of our generation, disappearing for a year, 154 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: and that's what happened. It's not over quite yet because 155 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: he still has the appeal to the NFL, but now 156 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: there's an argument who's going to hear that appeal, whether 157 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: it's Roger Goodell or someone else. So don't worry, we'll 158 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: still have more Adrian Peterson post wonderful, a little more 159 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: Adrian to come in the show, but a little more 160 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: fun talking about him. We move on. Robert Griffin, the 161 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: third is again at the center of controversy in Washington. 162 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: We talked about how awful he was on Sunday as 163 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: a player, did not play well at all in a 164 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: loss to the Bucks at home. Him After the game, 165 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: he made some comments about how a quarterback can't be 166 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: great unless his teammates are great. That led to Jake 167 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: Ruden on Monday, UH calling out r G three and 168 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: saying he's not even close to playing good enough as 169 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: a quarterback, and then also admonishing him for making those comments, 170 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: saying Robert has to worry about Robert. Then r G 171 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: three comes back on Wednesday, after UH sending a Facebook 172 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: message out, this is exhausting, but this is the Redskins 173 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: sending a Facebook message out saying I would never throw 174 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: teammates on the bus. R G three has his media 175 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: conference and gives the same answer over and over again. 176 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: We're we're focused on San Francisco, gets a little cute, 177 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: pulls a little Belichick move, and then Jake Ruden came 178 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: out on and his press conference couple hours after that 179 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: and apologize for being so blunt in his assessment of 180 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: RG three, saying he shouldn't have done that on Monday. 181 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: This team, this franchise is addicted to drama and it 182 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: is none of it is healthy. RG three can't say 183 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: what he said, whether he threw his team he under 184 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: the bus or not. You're the quarterback, you're the leader. 185 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: You cannot disparage your teammates by comparing them to what 186 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks have. And I'm glad Jay Gruden came down 187 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: hard on him, and I prefer that Jay Gruden who 188 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: got to speak his mind before Redskins management came to 189 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: him and told him he had to change his message 190 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: so obvious. Not only did Redskins management go to Jay 191 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: and be like pipe down, Jay, they went to r 192 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: G three and said, don't say a thing, and you're 193 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: a presconster. Every everyone's getting muzzled, as if that's gonna 194 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: fix it. It's just the whole thing is a mess. 195 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: It's an exhausting team to deal with, I think as 196 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: a football writer at this point, and I and I 197 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: think part of it is the is the media in 198 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: Washington are all over r G three's every move and 199 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: as are we. But I would just say that of 200 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: all the teams that had so much hope a couple 201 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: of seasons ago to where they are now, and it 202 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: doesn't everyone thought. I thought, oh, when they get when 203 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: they flush Shanahan out of there, remember how crazy that 204 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: was at the end of the last year. You wouldn't 205 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: have thought it could have been just as bad this year. 206 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: It's somehow has gotten that bad. And I think it 207 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: starts with the fact that r G three's play on 208 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: the field. He hasn't won a game where he started 209 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: and finished the game and over a year. At this point, 210 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: it's like everyone had the comparison to him and luck 211 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: or home runs. It's just whatever which whatever one you pick, 212 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: you can't go wrong for your organization. That's not been 213 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: the case on any level. He's been a drama magnet. 214 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: You guys are saying, you know, the organization told Gruden 215 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: to doing a boat face, and I'm sure there was conversations, 216 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, with pr with hires up, but I don't 217 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: doubt that Jay Gruden regrets going that hard because he 218 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: napalmed him. I mean, we don't normally see a coach 219 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: say things like he took three step drops when he 220 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: should have taken five. He took a one step drop 221 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: when he should have taken three on a couple of tenies. 222 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: He stepped up when he didn't have to. You know, 223 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: Robert wasn't even close to being good enough. You can 224 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: make the points that he's making without you know, going 225 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: out of your way to embarrass him and say, like 226 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: this guy is not even close to being a good quarterback. 227 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: And I don't doubt that Gruden had some regrets that 228 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: he took that public instead of private. You know what 229 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: that sounded like to me, like a coach that was piste. 230 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: He was it was a viscer reaction, and not just 231 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: to the play, but to wait what Griffin said afterward, 232 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: and he got it came off his chest in a 233 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: bad spot a rookie coach. I guess that's a mistake 234 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: that happens. And West we were talking about it today 235 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: during lunch. How R G three used to be this 236 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: guy that was so fun to watch, not just on 237 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: the field, but also when he talked to the media. 238 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: The way he was open and and fun. Now with 239 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: the same things that that I personally liked about him 240 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: when he would speak to the press and be kind 241 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: of a unique guy, are the same things that drive 242 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: me crazy about him. Uh, The way he kind of 243 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: talks and circles some of the just the strange turns 244 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: of phrases, the way he brings attention on to himself 245 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: when he's pretending like he's not trying to bring attention 246 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: on to himself. There's some almost like a rod lack 247 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: of self awareness. Totally agree. It's almost like he's tone deaf. 248 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: And for me, the final straw was calling a press 249 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: conference to say that you're not playing and quoting Winston 250 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: church Hill along three or four weeks ago, right before 251 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: the bye week when he wasn't allowed to play it. 252 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: I would think it was quote McCoy's first game, and 253 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: he quoted Churchill for like three paragraphs. Well, they compared 254 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: himself to Rogers and Peyton Manning right when he was 255 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: talking about the other quarterback. So you know how the 256 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: Landry era Cowboys ever won super Bowls without reassuring messages 257 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: from stallbacks facebook page and how did before something? I 258 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: am and I tweeted that what happened to r G three? 259 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: The guy? He went off the deep end? I got 260 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: tons of feedback, negative feedback, critical feedback from Redskins fan, 261 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: including one guy that wrote, you had like I wrote, 262 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: what happened to r G three? You happened? Yeah, hunchback hippie, 263 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: My back is awesome. You're not a hippie either. No, 264 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: you're the farthest thing from I. I agree with with 265 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: Wesleyan's initial assessment that Gruden his honesty is appreciated. I 266 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: liked the idea that he came in kind of raw. 267 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: But I would say this about Gruden. He's not off 268 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: the hook either. He's done a poor job coaching his 269 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: team from top to bottom. They brought him in to 270 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: be a quarterback whisper of sorts. He's been anything but that. Well, 271 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: the biggest travesty is how hard Griffin is to watch. 272 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean, all this stuff off the fields one thing, 273 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: but the fact that he's dropping back and then he 274 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: just hops up in the air out of nowhere, and 275 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: you can tell he just is so uncomfortable about what 276 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: he's seeing that this offense looks way better with Colt 277 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: McCoy like it's it's just not fun to watch. All Right, 278 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: we move on, We have to move out. We could 279 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: do a whole show talking about the Redskins, and we'll 280 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: talk about him on Thursday. We'll continue to talk about it. 281 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: So anyway, Buffalo, Western New York to be specific, well, 282 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: I guess Buffalo would be more specific than Western New York. 283 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: Let's just move forward. There is a snow apocalypse going on, 284 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: a snow catastrophe, snow tastrophe, snow rageous, four feet of 285 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: snow landed joke, snow joke bro four ft landed by Wednesday. 286 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: Another several feet are expected before Saturday. This is paralyzed 287 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: the region region and also led to a no driving 288 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: zone in the whole area, which is keeping all the 289 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: players try in their beautiful homes and condos, and some 290 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: of the coaching staff that made including Doug Moron, that 291 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: made it to the facility are bunker down there. They 292 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: couldn't leave if they wanted to, though knowing how coaches work, 293 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't want to leave anyway. And all of this, 294 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: all this is swirling around with a home game against 295 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: the Jets scheduled for Sunday afternoon, and there is a 296 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: lot of concern or a lot of uh thinking that 297 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: this game could be hard to get in because there's 298 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: just a pound of snow on every inch of ground 299 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: and it's a disaster. I think it was over two 300 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: hundred thousand tons of snow they had to get rid 301 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: of in the and the team was just made a 302 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: statement that we've never dealt with this amount of snow, 303 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: and that's even just talking about the fore feet that's there. 304 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: Now another foot or two are gonna come there. Have 305 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: they've offered to pay people uh, game tickets and ten 306 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: dollars an hour to help shovel them out. But it's 307 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: it's unchartered territory. Nice global warming gore one thing. My 308 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: grandfather grew up in that area, and I've been going 309 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: there since I was a young little kid. And this 310 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: isn't a shock to the people of Buffalo. This is 311 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more immense than anything they've seen. But 312 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: I went to school up there, and around August twelve, now, 313 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: let's say September twelve or so, the the wind starts 314 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: to pick up and the females vanish and you don't 315 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: see them until late spring and literally Hyberna because people 316 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: just disappear on and you just see people coming by 317 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: and huddled layers of clothing. Now, this this issue may 318 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: be of larger proportion, but the NFL has got enough 319 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: money to dig themselves out of this. They can get 320 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: to Sunday. Well, it's this lost a ton of money 321 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: to get to clean the place up. How much. First 322 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: of all, are the Bills players loving this. They're just 323 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: hanging out extra, eating potato chips, getting into extra activities. 324 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: They don't even have to practice. Marona is just just said, well, 325 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: you know they might have the munchies or whatever is 326 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: going on. You know, Maron meanwhile sending the game plan 327 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: through their iPads, Like, do you think it's like being 328 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: intercepted by John Zick's computer nerds in a room? I 329 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: just can't imagine Bryce Brown Brais Browns like yeah, Real 330 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: Housewives playbook. It's like, no, you're just hanging out. I 331 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: want potato chip. First of all, you're giving you're giving 332 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: John zeck way too much credit to think that he 333 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: would be able to steal transmissions like that? Is it 334 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: doesn't even know it's snowing right now? Is this the 335 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: beginning of a New York Jets season that comes back 336 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: from the bridge? You're gonna win this week and it 337 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the snow. Maybe this is 338 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: the final embarrassment to this Jet season. You're gonna get 339 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: beat by a team that didn't even get the practice, 340 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: just like the Patriots gonna get beating the Super bowls 341 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: New York. Does the glacier grow in size? Maybe it's 342 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: a good call. One interesting note, kind of funny note 343 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: from Edward or before we move on? Uh? He tweeted 344 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: today Bill Polly and told me yesterday the reason Ralph 345 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: Wilson Stadium was built in Orchard Park. Was land was 346 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: cheap because of the highest highest accumulation of snow. So 347 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, the bill comes to sometimes the bill always 348 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: comes to, alright, Moving on, like Garrett Blunt was released 349 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: by the Pittsburgh Steeler. Is this after Monday night where 350 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: he left the field? Uh prematurely in the in the 351 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 1: midst of Levy on Bell's career night, the two d night, 352 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 1: Blunt did not get a single carry left the field. 353 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: This obviously led to a lot of internal consternation and 354 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: ended with the Steelers cutting Blunt on Tuesday, and they 355 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: moved forward and marquise uh marquise uh paltsy I think 356 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: spoke for the whole team where he came where better? 357 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: This is a blessing in disguise. Blunt was not a 358 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: popular guy in that locker room. That's not gonna do 359 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: well for his free agent value. When they say it's 360 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: a blessing in disguise, this guy's a known knucklehead. I 361 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: mean he was averaging about six carries a game, and 362 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: they didn't make a rush to go get any veteran 363 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: to replace him or anything that they don't have much 364 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: behind him buying Bell, They've got what Josh Harris, an 365 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: undrafted guy, and Dree Archer who Dree Archer has proven 366 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: himself not to be a running back at this point 367 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: for the most part. Remember early, like in training camp, 368 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: when fantasyly people were concerned about drafting Levy on Bell 369 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: too early because Garrett Blunt was going to steal his 370 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: carries and his touchdowns. And I don't think there was 371 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: a shocking, terrible thing to think. I do relatively not 372 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: that we knew Bell was going to be one of 373 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: the best running backs in the league, but la Garrett 374 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: Blunt is a role player, and well, it's amazing that 375 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: Bell now has come to the point where it's like, 376 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: would you was there any other running back you would 377 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: rather have for the next five years. I don't think 378 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: there would be for me. Ran for almost four hundred 379 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: yards over two games. I mean, he looked good in 380 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: New England's he was joining his third team, and he's 381 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: one of the worst players on third downs, which you 382 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: know limits his versatility of anyone in the league for 383 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: his size. He's been one of the worst short yardage 384 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: backs in the NFL since he entered the league. I 385 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: think he'll get a job eventually, but teams weren't exactly 386 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: clamoring to pick him up. Another malcontent running back also 387 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: was shown the door. It's such a strong word. It's 388 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of a score guy qualify. Ben Tate 389 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: was released by Mark's boys, the Browns. UH. Tate had 390 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: also fallen out of favor within UH the coaching staff, 391 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: and also didn't seem to be a very popular guy 392 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: in the locker room, so they said goodbye Ben Tate 393 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: after a long courtship in the offseason that didn't work out. 394 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: So he actually lands somewhere. He's claimed on waivers by 395 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. That happened on Wednesday afternoon, So bent 396 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: Tate looks like he will officially replace Adrian Peterson or 397 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: take his spot on the roster, perhaps indefinitely. Uh. Your 398 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: thoughts on this, Mark, Well, it was one of those 399 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: things where for weeks Tate had You can go watched 400 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: his pressers online and there's just sort of this prickly 401 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: ornerary nonsense between him and the press, which means nothing. 402 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: Maybe we don't care about that. That's tons of athletes. 403 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: But when he was flushed out of there, some of 404 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: those reporters who had talked to other players, like I 405 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: saw one guy from the Associated Press basically, and he 406 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: hadn't reported this before, but one player had told him 407 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: a month Agoways said he won't be here for long, 408 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: Like there was some seed and something growing here where 409 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: Tay just wasn't fitting in and probably especially in that 410 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: law in the running back room where you couldn't tell 411 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 1: who was going to get the carries each week. These 412 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: guy's gotta be smarter, especially if you're running back and 413 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: know how they're treated as a dime a dozen. Uh 414 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: you you, I guess if it's your disposition, you can't 415 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: help who you are. If you're gonna be a guy 416 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: that's a pain in the ass. But he did not. 417 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean he he left himself extremely vulnerable because what 418 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: you're not contributing to the team, if you're not gonna 419 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: be a good guy in the locker room, why why 420 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: do they have any reason to hold onto And one 421 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: thing since week five two point two yards per carry. Yeah, 422 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: he's not stood out as someone that was helping them 423 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: at all. And he was awful against the Texas what 424 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: he stood out as one of the worst running backs 425 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: in the league. He's so indecisive and he's not gonna 426 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: make anyone. But you know, he looked good with the Texans. 427 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: I thought it's in stretches. Running Backs don't get better 428 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: of the course as this season. Really they are what 429 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: they are. They might get better in an off season. 430 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: But this guy, he had a six yard loss against 431 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: the Texans. I've run slower in my nightmares when I 432 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: kept falling down. Then he did the corner. They're not 433 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: the Vikings aren't getting a good running back here. It's strange, though, 434 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: because not that we were as a group falling over 435 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 1: ourselves saying what a great move by the Browns when 436 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: they signed him. But I think a lot of people 437 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: saw this as an upgrade in the Cleveland Black backfield. 438 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: So what happened from his time in Houston to Cleveland 439 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: where now he looks like a guy that can't even 440 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: get it done in the NFL. You know, Zack, I 441 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: would expect, Oh it's not Zack. As TV is taking 442 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: the scene, I was gonna say, you know, i'd expect 443 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: more from Zach, and I do not. That is the 444 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: way to know that TV is back when he drops 445 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: the factory, didn't we talk about he didn't just couldn't 446 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: give up either. I do like that. He was kind 447 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: of like, I'm trying to think who's a quarterback? Who 448 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: the backups doing a little too well? And TV gets 449 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: back in there, and even before he's fully healthy again, 450 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: you're limping around like Tony Romo, Right, Hey, man, I 451 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: gotta be here, gotta be back. Well, I think we've 452 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: compared running back to starting pitchers before in baseball. You 453 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: you don't know how good his legs are, just like true, 454 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: you don't know how good their arms are. And take 455 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: just didn't have it this year. Well, yeah, it hurt 456 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: the first game, so that that would be a good answer. 457 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: He got hurt in game one, missed a month, and gentlemen, 458 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: that's what's happening. Stick up for King um. Here lies 459 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: Christopher Theodore Westling, who passed away Sunday after a long 460 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: battle with ineffective prognostication. West will be remembered for his smile, 461 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: large collection of hats, and deep and lasting disgusted for 462 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: Eli Manning and Louis Flowers. Please drink responsibly at Huckapoos. 463 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: It's over. My middle name is not Theodore. I took 464 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: a shot. I was like I was jogging my memories like, 465 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: did he ever tell me his middle name? But Theodore 466 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: sounds right? Robert, Robert Christopher Robert westling West. This was 467 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: a group decision. I don't want you to think that 468 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing under the bust. We're not literally killing you. 469 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: It's just your picks for the season is out through 470 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: week eleven. It seems to be an impossible road to plow. 471 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: Greg forked me last year. This year you get the fork. 472 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: All right, your thoughts, Let's see what happens. Do you 473 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: believe you have a miraculous runs in you? Of course, 474 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: mark your thoughts. I like that you believe that. Why 475 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: if you didn't have that belief, then you would be 476 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: the one to be forking yourself right now. But you're saying, 477 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: we're gonna get one of these forks wrong. We've now 478 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: put you in the fork mix. Maybe we get you wrong. 479 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: If I can cause Greg to write out a handsome 480 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: check to a charity, that will make me feel good. 481 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: So your problem here is you're behind four different people. 482 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: So what you know, Dan, who's in first struggle? But 483 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: maybe you can't catch up all four. I am two 484 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: games up, I excuse me, sorry, three games up on 485 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: Greg two games, Greg, Uh, yeah, close two games up 486 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: on Patra and three on Cessler and ten on Wet. 487 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: So I'm tied with the boss and I told him 488 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: I will let him win. That's how you got that 489 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: glowing review last week. This is how is how this 490 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: happens in this business. That's why Dan wasn't at last 491 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: Thursday's show. I don't like these pick standings. Listen, I 492 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: get with the program and now I'm back. Uh so, yes, 493 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: all right, West, you say you will come, you arise 494 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: from the dead like a phoenix. That's my plan such 495 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: as it was. I like it, all right, let's uh 496 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: that's the only fork for this week. By the way, 497 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: it seems a little shoehorned in, but we just need 498 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: to get it in on the West. Seems a little contrived, 499 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: a little labor, Yeah, a little labor, little forest, but 500 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: sometimes these things that's how they come off. Next week, though, 501 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: we will be forking actual teams, and uh, of course, 502 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: I guess we'll check in on West's proclamations see if 503 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: maybe he does start to get back into it. Now, 504 00:25:52,320 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: let's play some games. Why From Culver City, California, It's 505 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: America's favorite game show, The Gold standard. They took away 506 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: his body, but they can't take away his spirit. He's 507 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: with us always, whether you literally kicked him out of 508 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: the room TV. Is he even back there? He hasn't 509 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: setting him down to edit something. He's actually down below 510 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: sweeping the carpets with any of my boy. He has 511 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: other stuff to do. He was helping out TD. Everything 512 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: that we do reveals character or lack of it. Omen 513 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: is great for helping me off of the first fifteen 514 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: minutes of the show. Alright, did you meet social media 515 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: Mike by the way to You're right, he's the week. 516 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: Come on, he flushed your TV just seeing him. Hey, 517 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: what's up Mike? Why do you want to ask him 518 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: what his favorite route tree is or something? Route concept 519 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: bro rout concept. Yeah, social media Mike, by the way, 520 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: he's teaching You missed this part of the policy. He's 521 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: teaching us how to take over the Internet in a 522 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: in a deeply kind of a little bit of a 523 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: dirty way, playing a little dirty pool. But that's all 524 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: we want to get that chetah. We want to get paid, 525 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: We want to get more likes, we want to get 526 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: more rewards, more money. This isn't new, by the way, 527 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: if you remember the k Rich era of producing. She pushed, 528 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: She pushed through that Stitcher award pretty hard. You know 529 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. She did push that Stitcher award right 530 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: out of our grasp. I don't know where it is. 531 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: Where is that there was a physical award handed out 532 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: for that feat on our part winning So inside right now, 533 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the name social media, Mike. 534 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: I like it. Okay, it's good, it's original. Uh and uh, 535 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: here we go. So this is what's more likely. It's 536 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: pretty easy game to figure out. I'm gonna throw out 537 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: two possibilities to the to the room, and then I'm 538 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna tell me what's more likely of 539 00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: those two possibilities. So let's start. What are likely Robert 540 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: Griffin the third keeps his job beyond the season, or 541 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan keeps his job beyond the season, giving it 542 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: dropping a hammer right to clarify, you mean they would 543 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: the other option, but they would not even be with 544 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: the team anymore. If you're if you're RG three, why 545 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: are you trying to get my paper notes? I wanted 546 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: you to repeat the question that was gonna read, reread again. 547 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't really RG three keeps his job beyond. That's good. 548 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: I actually I always suspected it, but now it's going 549 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: in just that one time. You know r G three 550 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: beyond or Rex Ryan beyond and their current jobs. What 551 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: were you saying? It's it's uh, let's just continue on. 552 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: I think that right now Rex Ryan is better at 553 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: his job than r G three is. That's not answering 554 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: the question r G three, I'll answer r G three 555 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: is much more likely to be with the Red Sky. 556 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: I would agree with Ryan. I'm gonna go against the 557 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: grain here and say Rex Ryan us. I think Rex 558 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: Ryan has a chance. I think of Rex gets six wins, 559 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: maybe seven wins, and RG three plays like this for 560 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: another five weeks and then has a sixteen million dollar 561 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: roster uh and salary do next year? I think the 562 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: Redskin is gonna say, you know, smell you later, buddy. Well, 563 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: this might be a push, but we have to pick something. 564 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: What did you pick? I went with Rex being gone, 565 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: but I mean there's there's outstanding logic for both people 566 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: not being with the I don't think it's close because 567 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't think Rex has any realistic chance at this point, 568 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: barring like winning the rest of the games, which I 569 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: just don't see happening at all. What are they going 570 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: to think? Okay, next year is the year Rex Ryan 571 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: finally figures out there's an offensive side of the ball too. 572 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Like that, that's not going to change. He could use 573 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: a quarterback, by the way, he could have a plan. 574 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: He could do something that would fix half of the side, 575 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, half of the sport. The ultimate Jet fan nightmare, 576 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: by the way, is Rex going somewhere else where a 577 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: real quarterback is entrenched and someone on the other side 578 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: of the ball that can coach that position. And he 579 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: wins the Super Bowl and it's like the biggest celebrity 580 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: in America in sports not only went to Super boyl 581 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: has a fifteen year stretch Like Bill Belichick, I got 582 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: one for your Rex Ryan takes over Gruden's job in 583 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: Washington and takes r G three to the playoffs. That's good. Well, 584 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: just spun that question on its ear. He really did. 585 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: Is that was that, assessor? Do you think that will happen? 586 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: I dislike the concept of it. Okay, still waiting for 587 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: that Tom Brady trade or whatever was going on. More 588 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: likely the Detroit Lions flame out and missed the playoffs. 589 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: Or the Cowboys flame out and missed the playoffs. Two teams, 590 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: I believe, or seven to three, is that correct? That's correct. 591 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: My first instinct is the Cowboys, But then I the 592 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: Lions go to the page, go to New England this week. 593 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: Nobody wins in New England, and they finished the season 594 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Nobody wins in Green Bay. So that's 595 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: two lowsomees right there. But the games in between that 596 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: that's fair. I don't expect them to win either one 597 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: of those. But the games in between, three home games 598 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: against Tomato Cans, Bay Airs, Bucks, Vikings in a row. 599 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if the Bucks are gonna be a 600 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: Tomato Can down the stretch, and then they go to 601 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: the Bears. Cowboys missed the playoff. All right, Let's look 602 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: at the because I think all of us think deep 603 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: down the Cowboys are gonna miss the playoffs potentially. Let 604 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: me just take a look at their schedule. They have 605 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: coming off thereby at Giants. Mark we're gonna play the 606 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: game where you decide who wins or loses at Giants. 607 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: This is the Cowboys. They're gonna win eight and three 608 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: home to Eagles Thanksgiving, lose eight and four at Bears, 609 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: win nine and four at Eagles win tenant four home 610 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: to Colts, lose tenant five at Redskins. They're gonna lose 611 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: tenant six. Will probably make the playoffs anyway, But I 612 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: love that they would blow the game against the Redskins 613 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: and weeks and then six might not be good enough. 614 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: Maybe not could be a tie. That is a really 615 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: tough one. Thanks. I'm gonna say the Cowboys are more likely. 616 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: What did you say? I did not pick yet, and 617 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: I this this is a great pairing because the one 618 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: the ones to eat up the other. I Detroit. Detroit 619 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 1: misses the playoffs, right, learn how to score more than 620 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: fourteen points? How about it? Bang? What more likely the 621 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers win the NFC South or Greg's adolescent 622 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: angst band Delaware reunites and scores a top ten hit 623 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: with the IMO single Hurt Hurts. It was not emo 624 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: or goth at all. It was more of a mix 625 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: between like they might be giants and you know, I 626 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: don't know there was It's more like indie stupidity. There 627 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: was more revelations by the way downstairs today, Greg did 628 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: not play an instrument. He called it an instrumental band 629 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: at first, and then revealed that he was the singer 630 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: and did not play an instrument So he's either not 631 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: doing anything. I said, I was not the lead singer 632 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: necessarily because a lot of different people sang. But that 633 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: what do you play the triangle? Yeah, little things like that. 634 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: You know what Again, I will implore the readers or 635 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: the listen ship if you could track down Delaware. They 636 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: were a band based out of western Massachusetts. They played 637 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: some talent shows. A lot of it was videotaped by 638 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: the mothers of one of the people in the band, 639 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: the drummer. I believe that's out there somewhere. Is it 640 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: out there? A band called Della with Greg is the 641 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: leadish singer. They might be Giants mixed with the Dead Milkman. 642 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: I would say, we got to get this thing skater boys. Anyway, 643 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: for the answer, I'm gonna go with that the band 644 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: has a better chance to get back together. The Bucks 645 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: are done. But we haven't even begun to get into 646 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: the part of Greg's life where there's the pollings of 647 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: the midlife crisis. And he still knows the name of 648 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: the other people in the band, and he's talked about 649 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: them is like an old friend. I could see that 650 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: deep well. But they start connecting and I'm not saying 651 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen next week, but yes, they're gonna get 652 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: back together. Greg's gonna do his crooning, and this goth 653 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: outfit is gonna rise. We once at a talent show 654 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: under a different name. Thing did. We're not gonna take it. 655 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: You guys are on the edge. Listen to the nostalgia 656 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: that's helping me with my pick. Here you go, the 657 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: nostalgia in his voice. And Mark's right. Greg's only thirty five. 658 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: He has another five ten years before his life, well 659 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: before midlife crisis and before you know, maybe the fact 660 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: that l A is kind of vapid creeps into his 661 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: thoughts and he's looking for something more meaningful in a 662 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: return to his music roots. I could see that happening. 663 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm going with the Bucks, This saint happening, Love E Smith, 664 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: Jash mccow going to Chicago this week. They're angry. I 665 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: just want to hear the cringe worthy acoustic valves about 666 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: Greg's daughter. That would definitely be in the back end 667 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: of the album. That would be great. What more likely 668 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown breaks Marvin Harrison's single season reception record. He's 669 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: on pace for one one. The record is one forty three. 670 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: Or DeMarco Murray sets a single season rushing record. He's 671 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: on pace for nineteen seventy three. The record is five. 672 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: This one's easy for me. Antonio Brown is more like Gleet. 673 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: He gets five every game, and most games it gets 674 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: nine or ten. I have to echo that. I mean, 675 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: it's the rushing thing where I we're talking about a 676 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: running back who's on fire, But is he can he 677 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: miss a game or two that would end that right away. 678 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: I have a bit of assesslor he doesn't reach eighteen hundred, 679 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna They're just giving him the ball 680 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: too much. He's gonna get hurt. I'd go. I'd go 681 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: with you guys as well. We all agree that's not fun. 682 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: Can't all be home runs? What more likely someone gives 683 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: a what entroll roll says has to say, or someone 684 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: gives about what Tiki Barber has to say. Oh, I 685 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: definitely care more what Tiki Barber. Just some background, Tiki 686 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: came out and said Tom Coughlin should be fired again. 687 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: He came out and said something negative about the Giants 688 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: and troll role for the third year in a row. 689 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: Connor or Totally this morning has come out and said 690 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: the Giant in November has come out and said the 691 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: Giants will run the table and make the playoffs. I 692 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: go Tiki because he's far removed from his playing career 693 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: and is still getting people to ask him questions and 694 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: pay him money. There's no proof at all that once 695 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 1: atral role is done with his Giant screw that, anyone's 696 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: gonna care what he has to say. What we did 697 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: post on both of them today, you did a funny one. Well. 698 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: Eli Manning's response was pretty funny to the Tom Coughlin 699 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: bit that Tiki barber said. He said, that's nice of him. 700 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: It's always good to hear from old Tiki. That speaks 701 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: more operation than to either of those two clowns. Oh 702 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: and they have. Then they asked them, you know, if 703 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: it's a distraction when a former teammate asked for the 704 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: coach to be fired, and Eli responded, I think it 705 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: depends on your opinion of that player. Judy Pattista had 706 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: a great hammer drop. She said that was a sledge 707 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: hammer wrapped in velvet from Eli Manning. Anyway, I think 708 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: Andra Roll just by virtue of being on the team 709 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: still carries a little more I give a little bit 710 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,479 Speaker 1: more of an s uh than that, but we both 711 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: are equally annoying ands I'm disturbing. No one else has 712 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: followed through him my moratorium, no more Andrell role post 713 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: or Carrie Williams or Bernard Pollard. Connor Or, by the way, 714 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: was apprehensive when we were chatting on a hip chat 715 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: this morning about whether to do the post, because I 716 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: think he knew that this might lead to you being 717 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: disappointed in as I like Connor Or, he's doing a 718 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: great job. But that's uh, that's strike one. What more 719 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: likely Adrian Peterson is a member of the Minnesota Vikings. 720 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: Or Taylor Swift is arrested on felony meth possession with 721 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: the intent to distribute in two Taylor Smith Swift come West. 722 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: You don't even try that, don't less. I know you. 723 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,439 Speaker 1: She's aunty country songstress who writes a lot of breakup songs. 724 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: There you go, she will definitely break up technically pretty 725 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: goods technically. The way the question is worded, I mean 726 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: he will be a Minnesota Viking for parts of two 727 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: thousand fifteen. He's not off of his suspension until I 728 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: think I think he means season, but I I'm just 729 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: saying semantics. Yeah, I say more likely Peterson place for 730 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: the Vikings. Ian's report last week or last few days 731 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: seemed just sound like the Vikings had tested the waters 732 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: and feel like their fans won him back. I felt 733 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: like that was this year though, while they're just trying 734 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: to win a few games and they don't have to 735 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: start out, and they've already paid him his money essentially, 736 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: and next series due ten million, and I think he's gone. 737 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm going Taylor Swift involved in the drug trap. Ben 738 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: Tate's gonna, you know, really light up the league. I 739 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: think it's more likely that Taylor Swift does meth does 740 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: I would say she probably and I don't want to, 741 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, step out of bounce here. She probably already 742 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: has sold it. Well, yeah, you usually you do it 743 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: for a while before you get caught. I would think 744 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: she almost has like a Walter White empire going on, 745 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 1: and it's all funded with her amazing pop career. I 746 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: like how you preface that with I don't want to 747 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: step out of bound here. Well, I'm not claiming to know, 748 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: but but my sense would we have we have your 749 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: right day good Zack back in the area, just so 750 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: everyone knows we have no we have no proof for 751 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: evidence that Taylorswift is involved with drunks at all. Yeah, 752 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: it's good to put that disclaimer out there right now. 753 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: What more likely the Cults successfully talked themselves into Trent 754 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: Richardson as a Super Bowl running back, or the Cardinals 755 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: successfully talked themselves into Drew Stanton as a Super Bowl quarterback, 756 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: which everyone doesn't involve Trent Richardson doing Well, what do 757 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: you mean by talk into like they actually believe it? 758 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: They believe that? Yeah, who believes it more in their 759 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: hearts at this point. I don't think the Colts believe 760 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: it anymore. How could they believed that? Maybe going into 761 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: this offseason, But after seeing this body of work again, 762 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: I think that Arians stays and Cardinals they believe it. 763 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: Of Bruce. Bruce Arians believes Stanton I think percent does. 764 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: But deep down in the back of that gang, he 765 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: knows he's done. He's got too much sway. But that's 766 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: how you feel about Carson Palmer too. We've got a 767 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: great We've got a great piece up on the site. 768 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley gave it the highest recommendation possible and it 769 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: is really good. Stars Michael Silver's piece on Bruce arians 770 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: nfl dot com slash Cardinal rule. How about you know 771 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: we promoted someone else for once at first, in my opinion, 772 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: one of the best people writing about football right now 773 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: in the game, one of the best in the games. 774 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: That's good. I do throw out some compliments other people 775 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: as well. Makes us seem humble. We will make you 776 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: feel good inside. Calling yourself humble doesn't make you make 777 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: you feel humble. Yeah, and social media Mike has done 778 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: at Just ask anyone. I'm the most humble guy in 779 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: the in the entire league whatever. I just can't say that. 780 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm just alright, alright, alright. We move forward, and that 781 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: takes us to Thursday and night football, gentlemen, where we 782 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: have an a f C West preview UH showdown between 783 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and Oakland Raiders. The Chiefs, winners 784 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: of seven of eight and five straight tied for first 785 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: in the division against the Raiders who are oh in 786 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: ten UH still looking for that win. Chris Westley, I 787 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: ask you the mailman, is there any chance the Raiders 788 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: finally getting the win column in prime time. Well, on 789 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: one hand, there is trap game potential. The Chiefs are 790 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: coming off a home victory over the Super Bowl champions. 791 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: They got up for that game next week Sunday Night Football, 792 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: playing for first place against the Denver Broncos, the other 793 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: Super Bowl team, So the Raiders of the game in 794 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: the middle. There's some trap game here. But then when 795 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: you break this down, all the matchups are in the 796 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: Chief's favor every single matchup, especially the Chiefs haven't allowed 797 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: a rushing touchdown since last year's playoffs, and the Raiders 798 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,919 Speaker 1: are the worst rushing team in the last sixty years. 799 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: How do you mean the worst wreshing team just ailed 800 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: that because year sixty years old, you've seen all the 801 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: teams or sixty three yards per game, which is the 802 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: worst in the NFL since the nineteen six Lions. McFadden 803 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: and Jones drew or averaging one point eight six yards 804 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: per carry the last three games. And I look at 805 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: like Derek Carr, who I think got off to a 806 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: real nice start for this team, obviously couldn't be involved 807 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: in a more chaotic offense at this point. And here's 808 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: the thing. You give a rookie quarterback who has a 809 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: lot of nice traits, zero running game where he's on 810 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: his heels. They get stuck in way too many three 811 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 1: and ounce and you're going up against the best passing 812 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: defense in Kansas City in the league. Right now, I 813 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: don't see a way out for Oakland minus some kind 814 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: of crazy turnover action or something that's just hyper unusual. 815 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: The Chiefs are like the like the guy in your 816 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: fantasy league who got off to a slow start, so 817 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 1: you kind of forgot about him, and you're you're doing 818 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: your thing, and this guy kept chipping away and winning weeks, 819 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he's bamm. He knocks you 820 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 1: out of the playoffs because you never paid him any attention. 821 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: We're still not paying attention to the Chiefs. They're playing 822 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: just about as good as anybody for two and a 823 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: half months. Now, let's give the Chief's love. But they're 824 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 1: not gonna get any love even after this game, because 825 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna be expected to beat the Raiders. But eight 826 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: out of nine in six in a row. If they 827 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: take care of business, well, they win ugly. They don't 828 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: win throwing. But that's why they're not getting attention. I've 829 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: been saying, I love this team because they max out 830 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,240 Speaker 1: on their potential. I mean, things are things are crazy 831 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: right now in Kansas City. Andy Reid is winning with 832 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: a running game, which is pretty creative. You know, they're 833 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: getting the Anthony Thomas in the mixture. Maal Charles is 834 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: back to being one of the two or three best 835 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: running backs in the league. The running game, stopping the 836 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: run as you mentioned, and like no passing. And I 837 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: knew something was a little crazy this year. When Andy 838 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: Reid made one of the best challenges of the year 839 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 1: last week, that's when you know the Chiefs are happening 840 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: because Andy Reid's the worst that that and he turned 841 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: the whole game around last week against Seattle with that 842 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: challenge in the fourth quarter. If coach of the year 843 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 1: of voters are against middle aged men that wear kangle hats, 844 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: andy Reid could win this thing. He could. Won't. He 845 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: won't because it's just Bruce arians Wards. But would be 846 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 1: my number two yea. But specifically said if the voting 847 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: contingent disliked men that war kangle hats and middle age range, 848 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: that's why through read out there, I've been slowed aboard 849 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: this Chief's train. But last week's game convinced me that 850 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: not only are there for real, but I would not 851 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 1: be surprised if they beat the Broncos for a f 852 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 1: C West, I would not. I think they're better. They 853 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: played together as a team than the Broncos. They have 854 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: an identity and I'm gonna sure if the Broncos do. 855 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: Are they the type of team though, if they get 856 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: into the playoffs that we can trust them to rail 857 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: off three wins or are they one and done type 858 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: of deal. I just there's something about them feels incomplete. 859 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: But they're tough. Their defense is better than I thought 860 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: it was, and Sean Smith is having a Pro Bowl year, 861 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: Ron Parker is having a breakout. You're at cornerback Justin 862 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 1: Houston and Tom Bali are back to being one of 863 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 1: the best. Don Terry pose make a Pro Bowler this 864 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: year like guy Josh Mulaga. This list of twelve people, 865 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 1: so they must be doing pretty well. But their second 866 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: only to the Lions and in points per game, I think, 867 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: and they have the first pass number one pass defense 868 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 1: and having allowed a rushing TV all year, that's pretty good. 869 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: They're a team though that I think they're good enough 870 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: to be in any game and They're bad enough to 871 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: keep bad teams in any game, so I think this 872 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: could be close. You know what I mean. They play 873 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: that style alright, So the three of us took the 874 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: chief Sessler took the Raiders did not. That is not accurate, 875 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 1: but I would never do that. Yeah, across the board, Chiefe. 876 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: Let's see if the Raiders can shock the world. And 877 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: that does it for another episode of the Around the 878 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: NFL podcast. UM, great show to today guys, and thank 879 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 1: you to everyone for listening to the show. We will 880 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: be back on Thursday night with another great episode. We're 881 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: gonna recap that Thursday night football game. Maybe the Raiders 882 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: have a win by then, who knows, and we'll do 883 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: a preview of all the Sunday games, so tune in 884 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 1: for that. This Dan hands a signing off for Mark Sessler, 885 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Boss, t d behind the Glass and 886 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: not forget about gold standard social media. Mike and Ze 887 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: Drizzle