WEBVTT - The Good, The Bad and The Boundaries 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:05.359 Wine down with Janna Kramer and I heard radio podcast. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:11.440 Oh I'm so excited. Why to be back? I was like, who, 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:13.480 what is she planning? I was in a life for 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:17.400 way too long. Yeah, I concur that was like a 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:21.239 week you really, um, you really bounce back quick. I 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.639 thought about that today, like you're like podcast tomorrow, and 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:26.960 I was like, you're not even in the state yet. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.440 It's crazy. Like when I get back from those long trips, 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:31.720 I feel like I need like forty eight hours of 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.120 silence and decompression. And we got in it like what 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.600 two am? Yeah, we got it like yeah, two and 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:40.800 then I couldn't fall asleep to like about like three am. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:45.800 And then this would never work for old Janna. I 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:47.920 was always taking the early flights, I know, but old 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.440 Janna would be like two am. That is way past 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:54.160 my bedtime. For sure. It was. It would be like 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.200 eight oh nine here, and we were all like frantically 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:00.440 cleaning up. It's time to go a fifteen. You know why, 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:02.280 I'm a grandma. I like to go to bed early. 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:04.240 What can I say? I know, but Nujiana doesn't go 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.080 to bed early all the time, not all the time. 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.920 She needs to. She nothing good happens after midnight? Isn't 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.479 that what they say? That is a very good point. 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.640 I haven't really pulled a midnighter. But anyways, we're getting 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.280 off topic here. I have something I'd like to talk 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:23.360 about that really has bugged me. I'm nervous. That's why 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.560 I said, why are you excited? I knew it was 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:30.240 something I can tell, But why do you guys go 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.600 straight to it's y'all? Well, because you were like, I 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.600 have something to talk about, hit record, I'm like, oh, 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.160 that that gives us no chance of the process. That 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.479 kind of feels like an am and Marcus here's that's 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:47.080 even extra terrifying, Marcus counting on it. No, I have 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.120 zero friend is shoes. I have the best queendom ever 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.240 you guys, although I didn't feel a little attacked yesterday 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.760 on our queendom text message because of my I went 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.360 on a few dates in l A and UM and 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:06.000 marks like material here for it? Y I know a little? 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.600 Is it? The person I'm familiar with? My body is 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:16.919 not a wonderland. I can't talk anymore because I'm just eased. 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:30.399 Please don't edit it out so good. I'm blushing blushing 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:38.040 that but it wasn't even about that. It was it 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:44.119 was about uh something else that he was Why don't 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.560 even bring up queendom. There's nothing that goes on in 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.320 that chat we can talk about. I found the one 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.400 thing and I posted it. It It was like the yeah 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:56.360 you about yeah, literally, well and so, but you guys 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.400 were like calling me out basically because there was one 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:04.120 thing with one guy where I said, you know, he's okay, 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:09.920 mm hmmm, he likes the color blue. Okay, Okay, got it, 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:16.240 what you have to use, He's not going to enjoy 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.480 it until it's politically incorrect. I could get possibly because 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:25.120 it's a belief system, okay, And so maybe I would 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:29.800 well know, everyone knows I'm a Christian, Okay, so you 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.880 went out with somebody who didn't, who wasn't a Christian? 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:36.280 Is that fair to say that's it? Yes? Great? And 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.960 so I had just look at Mark like he's a dad. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.560 I'm like, tell us, yes, no. But I realized how 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.320 important that is for me for the other person to 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:52.400 have that same quality or same belief, same belief, same 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:56.720 belief for not only what I want in my life, 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.600 but like my children. And why am I like tiptoeing 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.080 over like the fact of them when you get canceled 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.200 for that, like, I shouldn't feel tiptoeing over like what 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.600 my belief is. Tanya has talked about this at length 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.720 to Tanya is now dating a Jewish person. She's very 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.560 shocked by that because she always said she would never 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:12.800 date a non Christian and so that's been an adjustment 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:14.880 for her. But that's been a very interesting storyline for 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:19.839 her coming around to that. The person that I went 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.800 on a date with was Jewish, okay, and so thank 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:25.440 you for like, because I'm like, I just feel like 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.080 you can't say and I'm like, I'm like, why can't 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.719 I talk about my faith without And so I'm I hope, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.159 I'm glad that Tanya has talking about that. That's great. 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.680 It makes me feel a little better. Um, but yeah, 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.080 And so I basically went into my queendom chat and said, 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.440 I'm now realizing how much this means to me. And 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.360 we sat down and we had a really this guy 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.800 is like great, you know, like really good dude, and 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.800 um and he's Jewish and it has nothing and I 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.359 have no problem with that. The only problem not problem, 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.960 but it's like what I want from my family and 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:57.800 my kids and is it can we pray to the 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:04.120 different things and that's still work in a relationship for 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.160 what I want now because before I could probably give 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.000 I wouldn't care at all. Um, not that I won't 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.240 care at all, but like I could never date an atheist, 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.840 just because that would be really tough for me, so 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.359 staring at me. So I basically went into queendom and 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.000 said like, hey, guys, like everything checked boxes, but this 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:24.440 was like a big thing, and this is a big 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.160 thing for me. But then Pam's like, well, then why 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.840 haven't you got rid of the other dude that is 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:34.120 also Jewish? So why is that one My beef with 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:39.800 other dude is not that he's Jewish? Suck? So I 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:43.719 think that that's a pamelin and the defense attorney. All 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:47.320 she was doing was saying, here's one way we can 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.159 get rid of this guy once and for all, because 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.360 everyone's every time I'm like, oh, look at he texted, 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.040 and they're all like snows, like they're sending like snooze 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.960 emojis and like he's so boring. Like if people knew 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:01.239 how mean we are to you sometimes chat, I don't 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.000 mean though, I was just like, wait, how did I 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.640 miss this. I don't know. I don't think. I don't 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.280 think I'm a tough love girl. I'm just saying I 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.320 have a lot of jokes in there, but I don't 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.279 think I. I was just more shocked that I missed 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.760 this huge piece of information and like why, I'm like 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.599 the last few people I've not continued having more dates 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:25.440 because they of their faith based Yeah, Pamelan was just going, listen, 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:26.960 this guy's gotta go. If you're gonna do it for when, 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:28.440 we gotta do it for the other. And I'm going, 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.320 whatever gets this guy out of this group chat once 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:35.560 and for all, because I'm so over him. This is 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:39.120 like the most this is the least interesting human I've 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.240 never talked to in my entire life. If you're a 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.279 guy of a guy equivalent of a corporate email. Every 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.800 time he texts thank you Janna, that was lovely. I'm like, 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.120 we can't have Christmas with this guy. I'm friends giving sucks. 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:57.400 I'm bored already. We are all dating him, it matters. 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:00.760 That's the thing you have to understand. Because we were 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.920 all dating him, we don't want to invite him the Easter, 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:11.520 and now we can't any I wish I could say 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.000 his nickname because his nickname describes how I feel about him. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:20.880 But it's sucking transcends religion. What sucking transcends all religions. 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.080 So the question is why are you still with him? 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.320 For or not? Not? You know with him, but why you? 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.440 Why is he still in your life? If your friends 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.239 can't stand him? To me, that would be a major 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.600 red flag. He's not fun Jewish guy. I can do 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:35.160 fun Jewish guy. I'm excited for fun Jewish guys. The 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.280 other one is fun Jewish guy. I don't even know 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.440 that the other one Jewish. We went on one day. 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.280 We don't even know him. We don't know any of them, 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.640 but we don't, but some of us felt like we 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:50.920 knew the first one. So this is boring Jewish guy, 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:59.360 the most boring human b j G. Okay, that has 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.800 nothing to do with Ian boring. But what but Jan, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:04.560 it doesn't that affect you that your friends have this 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.480 opinion of him? That's a really good question. That's actually 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:13.200 a really good question. Mark, what we're with? Mark? Always 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:19.600 when Mark asked, she has to answer it? Actually doesn't 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.560 I do that answer? And and every other person I 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.720 would I would want if they didn't like my whatever 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.040 exploit like which you know they ended up not but 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:33.720 like I would be like peace out. But there's something 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:35.920 about this guy, or if there's something about this moment 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:41.040 in your life. It's a nat Gio episode and we 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.480 are here for the chase. It's a huntress on the 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:52.280 prowl to lock this boring assid he's not interested or 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:57.160 he's playing hard to get, he's playing impossible. So he 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:04.120 gives enough this I've carefully to sect did dissected, dissected. Um. 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:09.839 He gives her enough, but it's not anything, but it's enough. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.959 Like I saw it yesterday, bread crumbing. Uh huh yeah, 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:18.280 what's smaller than a bread but very unavailable bread crumbing. Yeah, 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.200 it's like disappearing bread crumbs. I'm like, I think that 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:21.960 was it. It's gone. I can't tell. I don't know. 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.560 Now I'm lost in the woods and we're still we're 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:30.600 still here, but you really don't. You didn't let us 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.920 talk to him, like every other guy was like, oh 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.480 I want you to meet him, I want you to 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.720 talk to him. He's like this one's like off limits. Yeah. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.439 Like when he would ever FaceTime, I would run away 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.920 normally anyone else on FaceTime I'd be like, well, these 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:43.520 are my friends, and I like I run in the 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:48.760 other room. What does that say, Mark? Yeah, is that 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:50.760 because you know he sucks and they're going to get 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.679 your patient about it? Or you want to keep this 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.280 just you and him? You want to keep this private. 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:59.120 What's the motivation here? Why is this different from other guys? 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.079 That's what I'm trying to get at. So he started 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.360 off as just he was the start of my like 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.920 hawk grow summer, just very fun. We had fun, flew 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.480 out to meet him a few times. We had fun, 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.559 like it was. It was a good time. But there's 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:23.160 something very mysterious and um impossible. I mean there definitely 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.880 is like deep deep, deep deep down, there's definitely something 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:27.680 in me that's like, of course I want to be 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.040 the one that like he chooses because he's such a 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:34.480 hard one to get, like he's so unavailable that I'm 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.280 like and this is like, this is my issues from 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.000 like way back in my twenties. So there's a little 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.040 piece of me that that Janet that kind of comes up. 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.040 There's a piece that just wants to have fun and 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:43.480 know that that's which is what it is. Like my 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.480 therapist is like when it stops being fun. You need 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:49.000 to like stop. But like, there's also the other piece 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.720 of me. It's like, well, maybe like because I know 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.040 that I'm the longest person he's hung out with since 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:57.080 his divorce. But don't you think that if you did 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.480 land him whatever that means to you, it would immediately 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:07.199 get not fun and boring? Can I answer that? Like? 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:12.000 Why are we hunting him? I know I'm done, I'm done. 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.480 I am I'm done. I'm over it that when I 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.439 got the black heart the other day, I'm done, I'm done. 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.520 I deserve better. You do deserve absolutely deserved. He sent 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:25.360 you a black heart because he has a black heart. No, no, 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.640 I sound like this cute little like video when I 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.000 was on set the other day and then all these 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:35.720 times back was just a black heart? Wait you, it's 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.560 not engaging. Did I realize that it was a video 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.600 that I sent queendom? Realized that you've actually sent it 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.840 to him and he sent you a black Hearty? What 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.120 does that mean? You have to go get a black heart? 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.440 There's intention there? What does that mean? I don't know. 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.559 Let's call him up? Could we not? Because I already 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.959 fell asleep? Thank you? No? It did it? Didn't know 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.000 we we had it. We actually did have a conversation 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.160 and um, and he was like, you know, I'm like 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.720 protecting you from like my personal detachment issues. And so 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.240 I'm like it was basically the call like I'm into you, 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:10.719 but I'm just not that into you kind of call. 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.760 So I'm like, I get it now. So I'm I'm 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:17.800 I'm detaching. You do what seem like? You're detached? You 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:19.320 don't see Mark? Do you want to get on the 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.480 queendom chat? Oh my god, if Mark was on chat 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:26.640 you would die. Um No, I am you can detacht 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.160 like you can care about him, and then you can 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:34.040 also make him go away. I promise you. I'm like, 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.839 I know that he's not my person. That I can 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:42.240 one thousand percent say with certainty and clarity. That's why 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.640 you probably don't care what we think. Yeah, because it's 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.400 not like you think you're actually going to ultimately end 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:53.920 up with him. Can I go back? I mean I 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.280 wish I could say I don't know what's his nickname. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.040 You know what it is, but it says his name, 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:00.920 so I can't. It's not like Waddle Like with Swaddle, 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:02.720 I could talk about spattle right now and Swaddle doesn't 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.120 know who saddle that one. We had to wrap up 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:06.920 like a little baby and hold him. We needed Jana 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:16.480 really bad, right, uh huh, So what's what's the end game? 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.000 Or maybe it's changed, but what was the end game? 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:20.480 If you knew he wasn't your guy? Well, so I 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.559 don't reach out to him anymore. Yeah, yeah, so I'm 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.040 just like, but what was the end It was really 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:31.960 attractive to her. The goal was the fling. He was 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.680 really fun for Hot Girl summer. Yeah, great connection. We 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.120 had a great connectical connection. Yeah, physical connection. We have 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:44.000 good deep conversations. Did you shake your head when we 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.200 talk when we're together, Yeah, when we like, I love 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.800 like he's very intellectually and like intelligent and so that was. 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:57.480 And he's older, you know, he's upper forties, so um yeah, 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:01.719 it was like it was it was and I will 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.040 say this too, because he was always kind of busy working. 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.480 I was able to go to these really cool places 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.520 and then just be alone during the day and me 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.400 like have fun in the city and I got to 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.640 write and like I really got to Like I sent 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.760 the girls a photo when I went to um this 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:21.600 one part of California, and I was just like if anything, 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.400 like he gave me like this adventure piece of me, 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.320 Like I got to really adventure and fly alone and 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.720 be alone all day, you know, almost all night to 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:35.440 just like having fun and like you know, just exploring 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:40.120 new cities. B Yeah, for sure. So it sounds like 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.680 he was great for this season of your life. But 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:46.600 it's fall now. Yeah yeah, hawk Girl Summers over fall 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.320 in love is here and we cannot fall in love 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.840 with boring guy. No, no, no. And he he basically 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:52.320 kind of said it to like, you know, he's like 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.440 I'm dating other people, and you know, he basically gave 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:58.400 me that like I'm into you, but not that into you. Well, 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.440 if he was into you wouldn't have to. Yeah, so 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:10.880 I'm over it. Having said that, I'm over it, I am. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:15.560 I'm over it. I haven't. I haven't contacted him anymore, 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.920 just you know, since Yester, since yesterday at three pm. No, 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:20.080 but I'm done. I'm not going to reach out to 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:25.560 him again. Yeah. That's well, all relationships what they come 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.400 into your life for a reason. This season for a lifetime, 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.440 you know, he was he was a really fun season. 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.320 But the whole point was my girlfriends were like, why 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.720 are you like, because he was Jewish. So she's like, 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.920 they're like, why are you? But again to me, I know, 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.000 he wasn't my forever, so like, I don't, I didn't care. 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.000 You're just it's a different reason, Like you're literally going 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.520 out for different reasons with different guys. You know what 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.760 I mean? A reason a sports season or a lifetime. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.720 Oh man, you know what. I feel like we almost 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:01.800 should save my other topic for another day because we 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:06.840 have an amazing guess coming. But it's just so good. 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.320 Did she hear yet? Oh she's not here? Okay, great, 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:15.360 we're gonna talk about. This involves someone that I had 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:22.760 a season with last year, right I I am a 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:29.800 little peeved. Yeah, I said the word peeved. I'm furious 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:34.160 you heard it here at first. So when this person 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:42.000 and I were hanging out, I named his beer company? 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:46.880 Is this the tell all part of it? I named it? 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:52.880 I've proof. Okay. Now, this person also got very angry 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:57.119 that he named someone else's business and wasn't getting compensated 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:02.240 for It's not it's not it's not uncommon to be 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:10.159 upset about that. It's not uncommon to be upset about 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.920 I cannot handle all of that today. I love this 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:17.280 much about that. So I even gave the whole like 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.199 what it stands for, how you should promote it? And 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.679 then he would send me what is this design? I 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.880 was like, this design looks great. So then I get 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.640 a call from Decker Jesse James because I also told her, 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:32.639 and she goes, oh, it's out, and I go he 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:37.240 did not use the name, oh and the same design 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:43.160 and my promo for it. So here's my thing. I'm 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:47.560 not asking for a check, you know, like, I get it. 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.480 It's fine. He could have at least email here's my 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:54.240 beef email and say, you know what, thank you for 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.640 the name. We're going forward with it, and I appreciate it. 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:04.080 That's all I wanted is branding genius. But like, is 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.439 that wrong of me to be upset about that? Or no, 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:08.800 call me out? Please call me out. I'm never going 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.080 to call you out because this happens to me every 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.320 day of my freaking life. What do you mean? People 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.399 take my words all the time, so and it annoys me. 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.000 I had a friend of mine who named their son 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:24.919 Legend unfriend who in Michigan. But I was like, it 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:26.960 was like two months after he was born, and I 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.920 was like Bye, I don't think this is I don't 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.919 this is my life. I'm the ghostwriter. I do not. 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:34.919 I think you have every right to be annoyed, and 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.600 I think you should have gotten anymail. Yeah, I agree, 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.000 and ey's the email for legal reasons. But if he 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.120 says an email, he's admitting that you came up with it. 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:48.000 I have proofs between him and his partner saying I 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:51.280 think doesn't have two choices. I think you pursue financial 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.120 compensation or you have to let it go. But could 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:57.080 I actually pursue financial compensation if you have I would 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.000 talk to an attorney about that. But if you have proof, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.879 then probably what if they have an ambassador program? She 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.480 could link it and get her money back because I 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.520 don't like a beer. Okay. All I'm saying is it 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.600 just would if I'm not going to go after money 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:16.600 like although because again I was in this very brief 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.679 relations wouldn't call it a relationship, very brief dating stint 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.520 with this person. It just would be nice to say hey, 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.000 because I mean people steal not strongs, but like songs, 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.920 different song titles all the time, and how many songs 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.240 are they're like, um, whiskey or what? What whatever, but 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:36.960 like just something being like I mean, wine down wasn't 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.120 even close to that one girls, but I still was like, 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.200 I'm sorry, and you know, like how can we make 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.560 this or because I didn't even know, but this person 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.919 knew took what something my name that I made for it. 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:50.919 But then also I did give it to this person. 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:53.960 But then my thing is, I'm like, then, why were 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:57.080 you so upset about the other person's business that you named? 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.159 So it's a little bit of hypocrisy on his on 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.959 his side, but that's part of the reason he's no 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:07.359 longer in the roster anyways, hypocrisy Mark, What do you 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.199 think talk to a lawyer or just let it go? 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:11.439 I think I think you have to let it go 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:13.600 unless you want to pursue a legal action. That's different. 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:15.399 But if if not, I don't think it's worth reaching 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.320 out to him. I don't think you know, it's like 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.399 they say, you'll be much happier if you accept the 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.639 apology that you never received. I think you have to 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:24.159 go to that mode right now. And I think a 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.560 break from legal action sounds really good for all of us. 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:32.960 I agree, and also I just I also I would 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:34.720 have just loved an email that's it. That's all I 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.639 would have what goes when it comes around though, I 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:41.880 really do believe that. Mm hmm. Well anyways, um, let's 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.080 take a break and then we're going to get Lisa on, 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.879 who is just an angel. I gotta go grab a beer. 0:20:47.000 --> 0:21:03.560 Okay here, I'll give it to It's for free, so 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.360 I know. Well, first of all, we have a massive 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:11.280 off air catchup to do because we we Oh my god, 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.080 I can't wait to hear all of it. Um. So 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:20.280 Lisa has been like my I mean, you've truly just 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:22.560 been like been on the journey with me and I've 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:26.639 just been it's been such an honor to be um 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:30.040 just you know, with your words and um going through 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:32.879 what we both have been going through. And I just 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:34.639 I've I've looked up to you for so long, so 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:37.360 much so that Christen to my friend here, she just screamed, 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:39.080 knowing that she didn't know that you were coming on. 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:41.200 I didn't know it was you. I needed a minute 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:45.160 to get myself together, right because she's epic. Yeah, I've 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:46.919 bought a lot of your books for a lot of 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:51.240 my friends. Thank you. That's so kind. And I wish 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:54.439 I was there in the studio with you, but in 0:21:54.440 --> 0:22:02.359 your lap it would be awkward. She really really UM. Okay, 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:04.000 so you have your new book out right now, but 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:05.520 first I just want to say, like, how how are 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.040 you doing? I want to just do you have a 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:11.240 little heart check in first, a little heart check? Thank you? 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.159 I love heart checks. UM. I feel like I'm sitting 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.720 with my therapist right now because he always says, let's 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:21.600 do a check in. So, um, you know I'm doing 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:29.560 really well, Janna, I UM. I think healing from relational trauma. UM, 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:34.199 whatever relationship it is, is long, and I think it 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:36.480 it takes a while, and it should take a while. 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:40.240 I think to the level that you love people is 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:44.480 to the level that you're going to experience hurt. And 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:47.760 so when you love deeply, you hurt deeply. And I 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.600 think that there will be layers of this that I 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:53.639 unpacked for years to come, because for me, it's not 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:57.639 just the facts of what happened. The longer part of 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:00.760 my healing journey has been the impact that all of 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.200 this has had on me, and so well, I think 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:07.960 I can forgive and and quickly more quickly moved through 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:11.720 the facts of what happened. That's like accepting it and 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:16.640 grieving it and deciding to move on from it as 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.080