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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, It's week seventeen. Welcome to the Giants Hangout,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Crestawn. My name is Madeline Burke,

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Speaker 1: joined as always by Russ Salzburg, Bern London and Jonathan Cassiis. Guys,

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Speaker 1: two more games left on the docket for the season.

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Speaker 1: But Russ, we got to break down what happened in

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Speaker 1: that Vikings game. What are your big takeaways for the

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Speaker 1: Giants lost to Minnesota?

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Speaker 2: What do we takeaway? It was a mess every which

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Speaker 2: way you look.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Madeline, you and I were sitting next to each

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Speaker 3: other and I was like, just dumbfounded. I mean offense, listen,

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Speaker 3: we saw the running game, but there was no passing

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Speaker 3: attack that was that. Still there were some drop passes. Still,

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Speaker 3: Darius Slayton with another drop. We all love Darius another drop.

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Speaker 3: But what kills me is the defense. I've said a

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Speaker 3: time and time again. There was a third and ten

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Speaker 3: they give up a first down. There was a third

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Speaker 3: and eleven they give up a first down. There was

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Speaker 3: a third and fifteen, they give up fourteen, and then

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Speaker 3: you know it's fourth and one.

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Speaker 2: They scored that. They get a first.

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Speaker 3: Down there, and then late in the game, MC Madland,

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Speaker 3: you know, like it was, it was third and seventeen.

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Speaker 3: They give up twenty one. They're better than that, but

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Speaker 3: they're not showing it.

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Speaker 4: They yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, especially you know, especially considering going up against the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings team that hasn't hello yeah on third down

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Speaker 1: this season, and causeie is you know, as a defensive player,

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Speaker 1: when you look at the fact that not just the

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Speaker 1: Giants letting these third down situations progress, but third and

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Speaker 1: long so consistently.

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Speaker 5: What happened bad angles, those plays that Russ was talking

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Speaker 5: about earlier. I mean, justin Jefferson, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 5: was responsible for two of those three, maybe all three

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Speaker 5: of them, I'm not sure. But it's bad angles. You know,

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Speaker 5: you got, you know, eleven defenders. When you're out there

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Speaker 5: and you're kind of on the edge, you have ten

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Speaker 5: other defenders inside of you, and if you take a

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Speaker 5: poor angle, you're just taking your whole team out, you know.

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Speaker 5: And I've seen that time in and time again, mostly

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Speaker 5: from the defensive backs, because those are the guys that

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Speaker 5: are on the edge and they just consistently take bad angles,

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Speaker 5: taking guys out. But there was some positivity there. The

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Speaker 5: Giants defense was all over the Vikings, right, you had

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Speaker 5: a you know, shrip sack touchdown. You had an interception

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Speaker 5: that was called back, but that was a pick six.

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Speaker 5: That was a beautiful play by Holland. And this is

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Speaker 5: what I've been seeing. This is what I've been wanting

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Speaker 5: to see from this defense. Yes, you might give up

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Speaker 5: a play here and there, you might give up a

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Speaker 5: third down conversion, but you're making plays. You're hitting the quarterback,

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Speaker 5: you're taking the ball away, you're scoring defensive touchdowns. This

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Speaker 5: is something that I wanted to see. So I did

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Speaker 5: see some positivity out of the game. It was a

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Speaker 5: very rough game to watch, especially offensively, but defensively they

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Speaker 5: kept this team in the game, scoring a touchdown, attacking

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Speaker 5: this offense from the Vikings the entire game, and this

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Speaker 5: is what I wanted to see. Things that hurt them

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Speaker 5: is the things that we've been seeing, right, penalties on

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Speaker 5: cruiser situations, giving up those third and long situations where're

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Speaker 5: supposed to be beneficial for the defense, the Giants into

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Speaker 5: opportunistic situations and they never.

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Speaker 1: Capitalize in it, right, you know, And it was like

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Speaker 1: they were in the game, of course, sixteen thirteen. The

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Speaker 1: final score was a tie game. Late but just not

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Speaker 1: enough to pull out the win. But you know, you

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Speaker 1: look at the Giants and the offensive side of the

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Speaker 1: ball in Brandon. You know, going into this week, we

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Speaker 1: heard Jackson Dart earlier in the week talking about how,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Brian Flores defense is chaos and it

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Speaker 1: can be a bit intimidating. You know, you saw the

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Speaker 1: way they called plays. They were really heavily reliant on

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Speaker 1: the run. You didn't complete a pass until almost two

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Speaker 1: minutes left in the second quarter. But the way that

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Speaker 1: they approached the offensive plan mixed with the way that

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Speaker 1: the defense was really stifling them, you know, how do

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Speaker 1: you get more out of the offense going forward?

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Speaker 6: You know it's going to be hard, you know, because

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Speaker 6: if you look at that Giants offense and the way

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Speaker 6: they played, it was completely different than how they played

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Speaker 6: in recent weeks. I mean, you look at when they

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Speaker 6: had Jamis Winston that quarterback. They had well over nine

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Speaker 6: hundred toty yards of offense in two games. And then

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Speaker 6: you think about some of the successes Jackson Dart has

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Speaker 7: Argers game, the Eagles game, and even.

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Speaker 6: In that Broncos loss, He's still throwing for two hundred

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Speaker 6: something plus, So you knew going into this game as

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Speaker 6: a wide receiver, as a pass catcher, you knew your

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Speaker 6: targets and opportunities were going to be limited. But at

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Speaker 6: the end of the day, like I've been saying, if

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Speaker 6: you're a wide receiver or a pass catcher on this offense,

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Speaker 6: you're not playing for fantasy stats.

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Speaker 7: You might get three or four targets in the game.

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Speaker 6: You got to make the best out of each and

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Speaker 6: every opportunity. So you got to keep your head in

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Speaker 6: the game, whether it's getting nasty in the run game,

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Speaker 6: picking a fight with somebody on the other side of

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Speaker 6: into this football game. So when that opportunity comes, it's

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Speaker 6: not something it's not something that kind of sneaks up

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Speaker 6: contested throws and windows throwing the ball on thirty long

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Speaker 6: focus and a relapse and what these Giants pass catchers

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Speaker 6: have been able to do on the second half of

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Speaker 6: the season. And it's unfortunate, but luckily you've got, you know,

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Speaker 6: two more games to try and get.

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Speaker 7: It right as possible, But you didn't want to put

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Speaker 7: that on tape at all.

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Speaker 1: Mating right and starting of course with the Raiders. Next week,

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Speaker 1: Giants going out to Las Vegas taking on the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: two teams that right now are kind of playing for

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Speaker 1: that number one draft pick. Of course, that's not the

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Speaker 1: priority for the people on the field, and they're they're

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Speaker 1: figuring out how to get the offense going again. Russ

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Speaker 1: And when you look at you know, this matchup as

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Speaker 1: a Giants on the offensive side of the ball, what

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Speaker 1: do you want to see from them?

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to see a balanced attack.

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Speaker 3: So you know what we got last week was imbalance

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Speaker 3: for whatever reason it was. You know, they if they

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Speaker 3: thought that the running game was going early, Okay, yes

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Speaker 3: it was, but to.

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Speaker 2: Me it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't surprised that they were going hard with the run,

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Speaker 3: but there was just it was in balance. I want

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Speaker 3: to see a more balanced attack on the offense and

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Speaker 3: from defense. You know, jac brought up a good point

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Speaker 3: before the defense kept them in the game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, kept it close.

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Speaker 3: At the same point, while the defense kept them in

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Speaker 3: the game, they didn't make the big play when they

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Speaker 3: needed to. Make the big play what I'm talking about,

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Speaker 3: And you heard the defensive players say it themselves after

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Speaker 3: the game. We gotta be able to get off the

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Speaker 3: field on those third and longs. You gotta make the play.

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Speaker 3: So I want to see that. Listen, you got two

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Speaker 3: James left in the season. You got two games to improve.

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Speaker 3: Don't talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Show me well, and especially on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. A big challenge for the Giants this season

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Speaker 1: has been defending the run caseis and you know you

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Speaker 1: got Ashton genty real spark clug of a running back

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Speaker 1: who led the Raiders and rushing and receiving yards last week.

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Speaker 1: How do you slow down the Mike Myers stance man

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 5: Well, Gent's starting to come of his own, you know,

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Speaker 5: he's starting to come into his own.

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Speaker 4: He had a huge game last week against the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 5: And to be able to consistently push forward and play

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Speaker 5: better as the season moves on, as your team is

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Speaker 5: not playing better, as your team is not producing wins,

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Speaker 5: I think that's a testament to who he is. And

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Speaker 5: then Brock Bauers Man, he's a phenomenal young tight end

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Speaker 5: and the Giants historically has just not done well against

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Speaker 5: hands full, especially with those two guys being dynamic and

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Speaker 5: Gino Smith, he hasn't had a great year. He's throwing

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Speaker 5: fifteen interceptions on the year, multiple games with multiple interceptions.

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Speaker 5: But when he's playing well, he's not at seventy five

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Speaker 5: eighty percent completion percentage. He's getting the ball to the

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Speaker 5: various receivers and the weapons that they have, and gent

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Speaker 5: is a full integral part of the offense. And brock

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Speaker 5: Bauers looks unstoppable at times because he's really that good.

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Speaker 5: So the Giants will have their hands full with this

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Speaker 5: offense like he had. A record doesn't show just like

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Speaker 5: the Giants, the record doesn't show how many athletes they have,

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Speaker 5: how capable they can be at times, and the Raiders

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Speaker 5: can be a capable team offensively.

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Speaker 4: We can give the.

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Speaker 1: Giants some problems when you look at this matchup too.

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Speaker 1: And I think from a fans perspective, when they're sitting

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Speaker 1: here that number one draft pick, I think fans are like, well,

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Speaker 1: let's lose the game and get the draft pick, But

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Speaker 1: I don't think a single player or coach or person

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Speaker 1: been in a lot of locker rooms that have had

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Speaker 1: their ups and downs. How do you as a player.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've heard from Onondale Robinson and yesterday talking

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Speaker 1: go on the field every week the same way. But

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Speaker 1: you know, how do you as a player kind of

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Speaker 1: stay locked in at this point in the season when

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Speaker 1: Giants have lost nine straight games.

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Speaker 6: Well, the NFL locker rooms I've been in, we won

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Speaker 6: a Super Bowl and we were the Dolphins.

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Speaker 7: We won the AFC ET so I've never really he'll

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Speaker 7: talk situation before.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what about in the CFL?

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Speaker 6: Then I won a great Cup and we went to

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Speaker 6: the playoffs every single year. Talk yo, talk, let me chat,

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Speaker 6: GPT the appropriate your answer for this, because it's not

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Speaker 7: But no, you know, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 7: you still got to look at it. You're still a professional.

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Speaker 6: You still realize that you're trying to put some stuff

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Speaker 6: on whatever you put this on tape. JC and I

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Speaker 6: think about myself being a you know, a practice squad

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Speaker 6: guy that Super Bowl year when I had I thought

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Speaker 6: I was going to have the opportunity to step in

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Speaker 6: for Sonora Smass, who I thought was going to go

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Speaker 6: on I all injury reserve, Whether I was going to

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Speaker 6: play special teams where I was going to get a couple.

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Speaker 7: Reps at receiver, I'm be I.

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Speaker 6: You realize you're being evaluated in the NFL. Now you're

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Speaker 6: rather you're playing for this team another team. There are

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Speaker 6: scouts from all over that are watching this game. And then,

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Speaker 6: like you said, Malan, our very own fan base as well.

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Speaker 6: The court of public opinion may not sway the decision

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Speaker 6: and the online narrative that is painted about you, and

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Speaker 6: that can mess up your money at certain points.

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Speaker 7: So you know, if it's.

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Speaker 6: One thing, if you're my Jason, see if you're my

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Speaker 7: But now you're playing for the pride now, so when you.

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Speaker 4: And when you look at this team, specifically with the.

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Speaker 2: What am I going to do about it moving forward?

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's like that in the last Dance, Michael

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Speaker 6: Football is not that type of game to where you

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Speaker 7: Your targets are going to be yours.

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Speaker 7: If I got to run that clear out route.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's been saying to his teammates have been

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Speaker 7: That he knows.

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Speaker 2: For the That's always the case.

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Speaker 1: You another player who is having a tremendous personal season though,

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say growth because he's always been a great

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Speaker 4: He has been consistently doing these.

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Speaker 5: He's been playing sound football, and the Giants have asked

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Speaker 5: I think, probably his whole career that he's played off

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Speaker 5: He's moving and thinking just like an off the ball

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Speaker 5: And you just don't really see the combination of off

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Speaker 5: he should be All Pro. He's having that type of year,

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, there's still two games left. You can

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. We love to watch it. Giants.

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Speaker 1: Next one up, Giants Raiders, Sunday afternoon in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: But let's get a little trivia on this one, shall

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Speaker 1: What do you got for us this week?

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Speaker 2: What do you know? What do you say?

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Speaker 3: Is this Madeline and everybody? The year was two thousand

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Speaker 1: The year again two thousand five five, So let's go

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Speaker 7: Two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: Before this was this was against This was against the

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Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell Raiders. Right, I'm just thinking.

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Speaker 7: Tim Tim Carter won them.

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Speaker 3: Nope, Lord, shocky guys, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Come on now, Amni tumor amigo.

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Speaker 3: Three guys scoed?

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Speaker 4: Who did you say, diky barber peky Barbaro?

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Speaker 2: Yes, on a ninety five yard run. That was one

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Speaker 1: Let's go tiky okay two thousand, Sante Schenko.

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Speaker 3: No, this guy, one guy caught a big, big catch

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Speaker 2: No, Maria Manningham Mexico Burke seven, I was still.

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Speaker 1: At Arizona State. Let's go and the last.

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Speaker 7: Who's that?

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Speaker 4: Brandon Jacobs?

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Speaker 2: Hello, thank you very much?

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Speaker 3: Boy?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, I thought you was that rough?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 3: Well, well that being the case, let me give you

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Speaker 2: Can you name?

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Speaker 3: Can you guess who scored the two touchdowns? Two touchdowns

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Speaker 7: Ronald Curry?

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Speaker 2: No, this this guy was a heck of a player.

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Speaker 4: Too, Tim Brown.

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Speaker 7: Tim Brown was.

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Speaker 4: Done at five for sure, right, Hall of Famer? What position.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't Randy Moss? Was it?

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Speaker 1: That's rand.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to say that and I'm like, Randy Moss

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Speaker 5: wasn't in the Raiders in O five, but yeah it was.

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Speaker 3: And finally, okay, who what throw? Who was throwing the

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Speaker 3: touchdowns for the Raiders that day?

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Speaker 4: No? Gannon was done. Gannon was done.

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Speaker 7: Harry Collins, Hell, thank you very much, folks.

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Speaker 2: This was not your finest hour.

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Speaker 4: I have a good job. They'll be with the carry.

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Speaker 7: Collins.

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Speaker 1: I was in my freshman year at Arizona State. I

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Speaker 1: think I was otherwise.

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Speaker 4: Focused freshman year in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: For me, let's go, let's go all right, Well, you

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Speaker 1: know what, the more you know, the more you learn.

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Speaker 1: Uh Russ Salisburg always bringing it all right, Let's get

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Speaker 1: a little over under action before we wrap this one

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Speaker 1: up heading into the Raiders game Week seventeen, over under

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Speaker 1: a takeaway from the Giants defense because see us, do

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Speaker 1: they get one or more or no?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe they do get one.

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Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, especially last week when you

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Speaker 5: look at the Vikings game, man, they were this was

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Speaker 5: an opportunistic bunch, right, And I feel like these guys

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Speaker 5: on the back end and even Burns on the front end,

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Speaker 5: like they have a knack of kind of getting the

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Speaker 5: ball into their hands.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't like that early in the season, but I

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Speaker 5: feel like as the season has progressed, they were getting

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Speaker 5: a little bit more opportunistic. So yeah, I do see

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Speaker 5: this defense creating at least one turnover all right, Russ.

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Speaker 3: I would say, also, you know, again we don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know everybody who's healthy this week going in.

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Speaker 3: Will find out more tomorrow, but I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 2: With JC, You're gonna get at least one.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Brandon, I'm with you. I'm with the over.

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Speaker 6: Let's make the Giants defense sexy again. Time for sexy

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Speaker 6: Dexy to get himself a turnover, you know, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Dance is trending on social media. It's about time we

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Speaker 1: see a little bit more on the field out here.

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Speaker 1: Ye here for it. And I also think too, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna agree with everyone and take the over just because

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Speaker 1: you know, the Giants are able to capitalize on generous

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks as they did last week with JJ McCarthy and

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Speaker 1: this week, I think Gino Smith he's had some turnovers

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Speaker 1: and given away now, so we'll see about that over

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Speaker 1: under seventy total yards from Tyrone Tracy Russ, what do

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Speaker 1: you think over under.

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Speaker 2: Total or just rushing total total. I'm going over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, over, Okay, Brandon.

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Speaker 6: Over, he's gonna have a buck twenty from from scrimmage

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Speaker 6: at least.

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Speaker 1: At least oh wow, because he is.

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Speaker 4: I'm going over as well.

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Speaker 5: I think Tracy had the game last week, and you know,

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Speaker 5: he's coming into his own as a player. And don't

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Speaker 5: forget his receiving aspect that he comes out the backfield

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Speaker 5: the screen game and also the down a few throws

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Speaker 5: that hopefully we'll see this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, hey, I'm gonna take the over as well.

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Speaker 1: People are quick to forget this man was a thousand

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Speaker 1: yard back last season his rookie year. But of course,

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Speaker 1: some injuries earlier on this season and Cam skataboo is

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Speaker 1: Snding really kind of took the shine off there. But

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Speaker 1: Tyrone Tracy can ball. I can see him taking the over,

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Speaker 1: even with Devin Singletary spelling him at times. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: taking the over on that as well. All right, over

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Speaker 1: under two and a half sacks from the Giants defense, Brandon,

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Speaker 1: what do you think I.

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Speaker 7: Gotta go under on that one? I'll go under. I

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Speaker 7: think that Gino Smith is going to get the ball.

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Speaker 6: Out quick because he understands how bad that Raiders offensive

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Speaker 6: line is.

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Speaker 1: So I'll go under cause see us.

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Speaker 4: Hm, that's a good number. Two and a half is

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Speaker 4: a good number.

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Speaker 5: I think the Giants will be a right around two

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Speaker 5: and a half, which is said two or three.

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Speaker 4: Man, you know what I like?

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Speaker 5: Man, I'm gonna go over You know what I've been

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Speaker 5: I've been liking a lot ab du Carter over the

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Speaker 5: center off the ball. Holy smokes, yo, He's beating the

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Speaker 5: brakes off these centers. I'm talking about spin moves, club

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Speaker 5: and rips, swim moves, just straight speed rushes, power, speed

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Speaker 5: to power, And I see him if they do that

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Speaker 5: this week, I see him at least creating one to

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Speaker 5: one and a half sacks himself, and then I'll give

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Speaker 5: Burns another one and a half sacks and let's get

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Speaker 5: Sexy Dexie into that party as well.

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Speaker 4: I'm going over it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hey, listen, these defensive guys are really crediting

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Speaker 1: Chuck Charlie Bullen with the aggressiveness that they're seeing in

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Speaker 1: that past rush. So we'll see if he can eat Russ.

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Speaker 1: What do you think over under?

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Speaker 3: You know what the two and a half, that half is,

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Speaker 3: you know, an iffy think, but I do. I agree

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Speaker 3: with jac I mean, Carter certainly has been coming on, and.

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Speaker 2: You know, after being named to the.

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, Brian Burns.

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Speaker 3: I see a pass rush, you know, and I think,

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Speaker 3: like I said to you, look in the mirror earlier,

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Speaker 3: and I think some of these guys are looking. I

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Speaker 3: know Burns is and Carter, after his missteps earlier, has

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Speaker 3: really rebounded. So I think they're looking in the mirror,

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Speaker 3: and I think I think they're gonna be ferocious coming

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Speaker 3: off the line.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I like going with the over.

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Speaker 1: I mean, credit to producer Pearson for throwing out a

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Speaker 1: tough line there with two and a half. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a great number. I'm going to take the over

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Speaker 1: as well. Let's go three plus. Let's let's see it.

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Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon at Las Vegas four or five kickoff Giants

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Speaker 1: Raiders Week seventeen, the penultimate game of the season. But

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Speaker 1: we'll be here yapping about it and wrapping it up

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