1 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: Welcome into tag Xam. I'm Kinnanni Stephens, Brian Sexton, and 2 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: John Osier with me this morning as the pre season 3 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: now behind us. Wrapped up preseason game number three on 4 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: Saturday in Miami, and we'll talk a little bit about that, 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: but we'll also look ahead two week one against the 6 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Panthers and cut down Day is coming up on Tuesday, 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: So we'll start out with big things. Big thing number 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: one is return to sender. 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: Brian. 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: I thought we were going to have some decisions to 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: make about offensive line, but Fred Johnson heading back to 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: Philadelphia seventh round pick coming here. 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: Smart move, Yeah, I think so. 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 4: Look, we saw during training camp that Chuma Adoga could 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: go out and play right tackle, and we saw Patrick 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 4: McCurry in the Saints game play a little bit of 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 4: right tackle. Besides that, we've seen both of those guys 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 4: at some point their crew playing on the left side. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 4: And Anton Harrison is a guy who can play in 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: multiple positions. And you've got Cole van landon w hoop 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 4: you hope to get back at some point this season 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 4: as well, so you know they have a bit of 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 4: depth at offensive tackle and all the versatility that they 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 4: talked about creating came through with those two free. 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: Agents, particular Idoga and McCarry. John. 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, this really became a case where they realistically were 27 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 5: not going to be able to get him on the 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 5: fifty three comfortably. They like Wyatt Myland, they like Genna Manheim. 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 5: As Brian said, they feel like they've gotten debt, and 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 5: they feel like they've got guys who can snap everywhere inside. 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: They feel like they have their swinging tackle. 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 5: So it became a case where how are you going 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 5: to make the fifty three work the game they were 34 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 5: and unfortunately for Fred Johns, he didn't fit in. But 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 5: they've made a couple of good trades to get some 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 5: value for guys who weren't going to be around in 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 5: the last week or so. 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: And you mentioned that he didn't fit in. It's funny 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: I thought maybe John he was the biggest human being 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: we've ever had a Turney camp here. I mean literally, 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: if I didn't even I was just playing off of that. 42 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you look, as we look at this roster going forward, 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: we know they made that trade with the Saints as well. 44 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about roster decisions coming up. 45 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: But big thing number two, that's a rap the preseason 46 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: behind us. Now they played in Miami, some players played 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: in Miami, but over all Liam Collen talked about the 48 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: improvement he's geen over the preseason. 49 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 6: You still gotta continue to get better. There's no doubt 50 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 6: we We cannot waste a single moment, second minute, practice, 51 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 6: walk through, meeting, cannot be wasted. We need to improve 52 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 6: in from now until Carolina. There needs to be continued improvement. 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 6: But I am proud of of of this team in 54 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 6: the way that they compete, the physicality in which they 55 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 6: play with. I think we can if we can start 56 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 6: there and have that as a standard that continues to 57 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 6: show up every time we compete. Uh, I'll live with that. 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: John. Not a ton to talk about in terms of 59 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: the game, uh against the Dolphins, because thirty six players 60 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: did not dress for the Jaguars as opposed to what 61 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: the Dolphins put out there. They had their starters going 62 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: for a little bit. But it was encouraging to see 63 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: the defense early on against the Dolphins starters and just 64 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: kind of that continued progress, cause you want it on 65 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: all parts of the roster, not just the starters. 66 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 5: Guess aw, what Liam said after was interesting about playing 67 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 5: with the physicality. 68 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: There's so little we all know that. 69 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 5: On September seventh, everything that we've seen the first three games, 70 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 5: all of a sudden just sort of drifts into nothingness 71 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 5: and you forget it all. But I do feel like 72 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 5: Liam likes that physical tone. I feel like he does 73 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 5: like the way this team plays, So maybe they've established 74 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 5: something in that regard. And I do think how the 75 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 5: front seven played against the Dolphins first team was impressive 76 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 5: and encouraging. Mason Smith was out there, Uh, there were 77 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 5: some guys uh, Danny Strigo, Uh, I certain guys who 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 5: are going to be around here who are starting to 79 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 5: push up into that world of us known about. So 80 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 5: I thought that first part was more intriguing than I 81 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 5: thought it would be. 82 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: Brian, I don't know if it's gonna translate to anything. 83 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 5: They don't how many guys you're gonna be playing, But 84 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 5: it felt good and it felt like it mattered somehow. 85 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 4: You know, John in that last SoundBite that we heard 86 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: from Lee and he used the word standard, right, that's 87 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: what leaders do. They established the standard, and he's been 88 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 4: working to build the standard. And he just said it's 89 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 4: about playing hard and getting better every single time they 90 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: take the grass and they did. Those young guys out there, 91 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 4: as you both have mentioned. On offense, Jaquinna Jackson ran 92 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: really hard and Kevin Harris, who just came in last week, 93 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 4: showed you something as well. The offensive line jumped off 94 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: sides a little too often, but they did create some 95 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: holes in the running game. On defense, there are so 96 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 4: many names to talk about guys who are competing for 97 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 4: the roster. You mentioned Danny striggu and bj Green, right, 98 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: Jordan Jefferson and Tyler Lacy, and these guys all showed 99 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: up to play and they didn't end up stuffing the Dolphins. 100 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 4: Eventually they got it going, but those first two drives 101 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 4: they made them, you know, three and out. So it 102 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: was encouraging to see the second team, the third team 103 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: guys showing that they had gotten better. And if that's 104 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 4: the standard that the coach believes in and that's the 105 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 4: one he set, then mission accomplished at least through the preseason. 106 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Our final big thing today is going to be cut Day, 107 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: which is tomorrow at four pm, and head coach William 108 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: Cohen talked about his first cut day as a head coach. 109 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 6: You know, so many of these guys, like I told 110 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 6: him last night are been a part of creating our 111 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 6: edge and who we are as a team, and so 112 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 6: those decisions aren't easy at all, especially as a young 113 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 6: coach doing it for the first time. Really, those conversations 114 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 6: aren't easy, The decisions aren't easy, But I think I 115 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 6: believe some guys probably helped themselves out tonight in some ways, 116 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 6: whether it's for our team or somebody else's team. Ultimately, 117 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 6: you want to help guys continue to further their dreams 118 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 6: as well as obviously make our roster as competitive as 119 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 6: it can be. 120 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: Some decisions to. 121 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: Be made today, Brian, we talked a little bit about 122 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: the O line. Decisions might be a little bit easier 123 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: after moving Fred Johnson back to Philadelphia. But any surprises ahead, 124 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: do you think? Or just have to wait and see. 125 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 4: You know, I don't think the initial roster will surprise 126 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 4: a lot of people, But maybe in the days ahead, John, 127 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: as players start to become available, guys that other teams 128 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: let go that these guys like, then you might see 129 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: some you. 130 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 3: Know, John and I were talking before the show. 131 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 4: You know, there's some positions where you'd like to get 132 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: better and where you've got a lot of numbers. Safety's 133 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: one in particular where there's five or six guys that 134 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 4: you can make the case for having an impact being 135 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 4: on the roster and you could only end up with 136 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: four of those or three if there's someone else that 137 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 4: they like. 138 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a meazing a couple of days because I 139 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 5: do think they're going to be active, maybe a receiver, 140 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 5: maybe a couple other positions where they just feel like 141 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 5: that final roster spot. 142 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: It needs to be upgraded. It's gonna be an interesting couple. 143 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 5: Of days at As Brian said, safety corner linebacker, I'm intrigued. 144 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: I'm intrigued. 145 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued to stay with us here on jag Zam. 146 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna go over that roster and tell you what 147 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: we think some of those decisions might be. This school. 148 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: That's this school that. 149 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back to jag Zam. Cut day is tomorrow. They're 150 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: gonna get this roster down to fifty three people. So 151 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little this or that. When we 152 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: talk about it. We don't know what's gonna be done. 153 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: We've been around, so we're gonna make some educated guesses. 154 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: First one's gonna be about wide receiver. Are they gonna 155 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: keep six and or do you think they'll kind of 156 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: keep five check to waiver wire maybe add to that, John, 157 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: I know that was something you mentioned was a possibility. 158 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: Obviously we heard through the U through the grape vine 159 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: from the Broncos that they were kind of looking at 160 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: their receiver at one point, So is that a focus. 161 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 5: I think they keep five, and then I think the 162 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: four that we all know are very very solid. 163 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: Right beyond that, I. 164 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 5: Want to clarify a lot of these guys were talking 165 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 5: about being cut are still gonna be around, right, Yeah, 166 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 5: And that's the big change in the last maybe ten years, Brian, 167 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 5: when there were six practice squad guys, these cuts meant 168 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 5: everybody was gone r Right. Now you've got sixteen practice 169 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 5: squad guys. So a lot of these guys that we 170 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 5: were saying, oh, that gonna be around. 171 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: So I think uh Irwin Trammel, guys like that could 172 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: be around. Maybe not on the fifty three. 173 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 5: I think they feel good about those guys, but I 174 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 5: think they're also guys that if if you release, they 175 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 5: may fit better here and be part of this as 176 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 5: sort of that periphery getting onto the roster three or 177 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 5: four times during the year guy. So I think they 178 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 5: keep five and starts of way, you know, for the fifth, right, 179 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 5: I think that they would like to keep five. 180 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 4: And I think Trammel's a guy that you have a 181 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: real hard time getting rid of because all he's done 182 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: is make place for you. But he's been on and 183 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: off your practice squad, so perhaps that's where he goes. 184 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: But what they really would like is a bigger bodied 185 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: guy that fifth receiver, to be someone who can help 186 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 4: heath and special teams, but also be the possession guy 187 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 4: who gets to the sticks and gets you forward. And 188 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 4: I think that was trenton Irwin's job to earn. But 189 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 4: I don't think he's clarified it right, and I don't 190 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 4: think he gives you enough on special teams necessarily to 191 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: be able to say, well, that's his spot. 192 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: So five. 193 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: If they love Trammel, and I know they like him, 194 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 4: and Bucky and I talked a lot about it on 195 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: Saturday night. 196 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: Maybe six maybe six? 197 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: All right? 198 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: Another crowded a room, the running backs room. Is it 199 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: possible to keep four running backs on this roster? Not 200 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: necessarily dressing, but can Yeah. 201 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: They'll keep four. 202 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 5: I'd be stunned if they don't keep four, because they 203 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 5: love l Quinn Allen and they're not cutting him, and 204 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 5: I think he's going to be active. He does so 205 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 5: many things. Well, so yeah, you can keep four. Now 206 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 5: can they get four active on game day? 207 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: That's really really hard to get? 208 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: Well, making a bit easier. 209 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 4: The coach told us on Friday in the production meeting 210 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 4: that Basil Tuton has become much more effective, much more 211 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: versed in special teams. It has improved, and so he's 212 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 4: a guy that you can have active on game day 213 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 4: for special teams. Now, at some point he's gonna be 214 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 4: the lead guy and not play special teams. But early on, 215 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 4: if he's not going to get the bulk of the carries, 216 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: he could still be active because of teams. 217 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: Is a trade of possibility? Or is that? Is there 218 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: not enough value out a running back position to get 219 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: much for that? Do you think they'll just keep everybody 220 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: they have. 221 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: It's always possible. 222 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 5: But if you listen to Liam talk about running backs 223 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 5: over a seventeen game season, if you keep three over 224 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 5: a seventeen game season, one of those guys isn't gonna 225 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 5: be available. 226 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: For you for three or four weeks. 227 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 5: If you keep three, you're gonna have a situation at 228 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 5: some point in week nine where you have two, and 229 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 5: I don't think they want that. 230 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: So look, sometimes, Brian. 231 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 5: When you've got a lot of good players at one position, 232 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 5: you have to figure out a way to keep good players. 233 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 5: And so I think they may keep that there, maybe 234 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 5: use the Travis Hunter lever, whatever that mean, meaning one 235 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 5: of those positions you don't have to have five because 236 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 5: you have Travis. Maybe they cheated a little bit, you know, 237 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 5: in their numbers by doing that. 238 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 4: I thought Ryan O'Halleran was ten days ago rode a 239 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: really compelling column about could you trade Tank Pixby. You're 240 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 4: not gonna trade either the rookies obviously, and you can't 241 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 4: really trade Travis etn because he's playing with a six million. 242 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: Dollar you know, fifth year option. 243 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: So then you have to decide, well, I mean, is 244 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 4: what I'm going to get back worthy of what Tank is? 245 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: And I think Tank's had a really. 246 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: Good camp and he's different in that he is a 247 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 4: guy who could play with power and he's got that 248 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 4: big play, explosive potential. He showed us in the game 249 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 4: against New Orleans, you know, just like he had last 250 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 4: year against Houston. 251 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: He's got the ability to do that. 252 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 4: So I don't know why you trade any of these 253 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: four guys, because all of them can help you win 254 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 4: this year. 255 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: Why send them away and have them help someone else? 256 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're not gonna get much back, I think 257 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: that's a very smart move. So potentially four running backs 258 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: on this roster. And then as we look ahead to 259 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: tough cuts, this was before we had the Fred Johnson trade. 260 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: So what do you think the toughest group to cut 261 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: down is going to be? Obviously I had my eyes 262 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: on safety. I think offensive line at one point would 263 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: have been a little more difficult. Brian, what do you 264 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: think the toughest position to get down on the cuts 265 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 1: will be? 266 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 4: Todd, I think you hit it with safety because you 267 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 4: know you've got your four. You've got Eric Murray obviously 268 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: in Dewey winger that you think very highly of, and 269 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 4: Antonio Johnson's has become a special teams guy. And here's 270 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 4: where it becomes interesting. Daniel Thomas has been one of 271 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: the best special teams players on this team for a 272 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 4: number of years now, and Keith has a lot of 273 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 4: confidence in him. But they drafted Rayon Lane to play 274 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 4: special teams as well. So you've just you've got a 275 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 4: bunch of guys, and it's not a position where you 276 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 4: normally keep five, so you don't keep six. 277 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: Safety, and I mean, we already covered the one. 278 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 5: I think running back is the toughest because you've got 279 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 5: four guys there who they know can play in the 280 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 5: NFL and play at what they would think of as 281 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 5: a winning level. The safety, for the reasons Brian mentioned 282 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 5: safety is going to be a tough cut. 283 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: And I think Daniel Thomas makes it particularly tough because 284 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 2: he's such a good special. 285 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: Teams play and we're looking at video of Darnel Savage 286 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: and even mentioned him, and he's got a cap number 287 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: that's pretty sizable this year. 288 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: And the Jaggers already have more. 289 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 4: Than fifty million in dead money, So that kind of 290 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 4: makes you lean into how much more dead money do 291 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: we want. 292 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: Different groups to keep an eye on that. Decisions will 293 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: be made tomorrow by four. Stay with us, though, we 294 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: got some hot takes coming up about start a season. 295 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jack Exam Hot Takes today, brought to 296 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: you by Firehouse Subs. The preseason is behind us. We 297 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: get real football very very soon. September seventh, first game 298 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: a season against the Panthers and kind of a wrap 299 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: up of the trading camp season. We don't always put 300 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: a ton into the preseason games specifically, but as a whole, Brian, 301 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: what's your hot taker, what's your takeaway from this time? 302 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: Well, we thought that we would see dramatic improvement in 303 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 4: the Jaguars running game. It was an area of need. 304 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 4: It's what Liam Cohen did so very effectively last year 305 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: in Tampa, and we've seen it on the practice field 306 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 4: and I in particular have been beating that drum talking 307 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 4: about what it means for the quarterback and you've written 308 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: about it. 309 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: John. However, in getting to know Anthony KEMPINELI a little. 310 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: Better and seeing how his team has gotten from the 311 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: first preseason game to the third preseason game and shown 312 00:14:55,160 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: improvement in almost every respect sacks, not takeaways, but really 313 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: effective football, I think that this defense could be as bigger, 314 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 4: bigger story than the running game by the time we 315 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 4: get to the end of the year. In particular because 316 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: Campanialy talked on Friday in the television production meeting about 317 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: people overplays and the culture that he was trying to 318 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: build in the room, about self sacrifice, about caring for 319 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: the guy next to you, and that all it sounds 320 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 4: good and it doesn't necessarily mean anything. But we saw 321 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 4: the threes John out there, and you had Strigau and 322 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: Green who were fighting against each other, but each guy 323 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: got a sack and they were celebrating with one another. 324 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 4: Right you had Tyler Lacy and Jordan Jefferson, yusirab Doula 325 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: and Dennis Gardak. I mean, these guys were in a 326 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 4: position where they were playing for their football lives because 327 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 4: those were the battles that were identified to us, and 328 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: they came through and played really well. And I just 329 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: think that this defense and its culture of people over 330 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 4: plays has created a tighter knit group that cares about 331 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: each other. And he said to us, if you don't 332 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: care about each other, you don't really have much of 333 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 4: a chance, and these guys really do. You saw the 334 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: veteran players on the sideline, you know, who were locked 335 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 4: in Andrew Andrew Wingard said to us after the game 336 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 4: that he spent the whole game watching the young guys 337 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 4: and was proud of them. 338 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: So there's something to that. 339 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 4: And I think this defense might be as big a 340 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: story in terms of its improvement as the running game. 341 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's a lot to that because I 342 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 5: think they're gonna believe in the direction defensively all season, 343 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 5: and it's clear from the comments that they've made in 344 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 5: the offseason that wasn't quite the case last year. 345 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: That's a big deal on defense. 346 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 5: Interestingly, on defense, I think a few guys are really key. 347 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 5: It's hard to judge any of this right because we 348 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 5: really only saw the first team for three series, So 349 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 5: how do we get a real feel for what they're 350 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 5: gonna show? 351 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: And Gardeck is really really. 352 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 5: Interesting in the pass rush because he can give them something. 353 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 5: And it's silly to say Travis Hunter has been overlooked, 354 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 5: but I haven't talked about him a whole lot on defense. 355 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: If he and Jordan Lewis. 356 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 5: Are this sort of takeaway guys that they've shown at times, 357 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 5: Travis in his career and Jordan Lewis out here and 358 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 5: they're starting all of a sudden, you've got some elements 359 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 5: that can. 360 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: Disrupt the opposing offense. 361 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 5: So I think those guys get real interesting once they're 362 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 5: playing the entire game. 363 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: I went the other direction. I went with offense. 364 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 5: When Liam Cohen was talking after the game the other night, 365 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 5: somethings just struck me of we haven't. 366 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: Seen this guy game plan. Yet. 367 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 5: We know he's got tools, we know he's got four 368 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 5: running backs that he likes, we know he's got wide receivers. 369 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 5: But you don't game plan during the preseason. And this 370 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 5: guy is a play caller. We've seen situations on the 371 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 5: practice field where he has schemed guys open. I don't 372 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 5: know if this is going to be a great, elite, 373 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 5: top five offense, yet this year, I do believe that 374 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 5: there's going to be a lot more big plays, a 375 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 5: lot more explosives, Liam creating opportunities for these really fast guys. 376 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 5: To me, Brian, a marginal uptake in short yardage running 377 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 5: coupled with what nine more explosive plays in a season 378 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 5: gives you one every other game. How much of a 379 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 5: difference with that in mate last year if you get 380 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 5: seven more points in five games. 381 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: So that's what I always look for. 382 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 5: How how can you improve that element? Is the thing 383 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 5: that we haven't seen yet that I'm intrigued when the 384 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 5: season starts. 385 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 4: And since you're talking about intrigue improvement in the short 386 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 4: yard is running game as we've seen, isn't just gonna 387 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 4: be lining up and running through the A gaps right 388 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 4: and blocking better or hitting the right hole. They're gonna 389 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 4: use the jet sweeps, they're gonna use the quick screen game, 390 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: they're gonna use slants. I mean, they're gonna find a 391 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 4: lot of different ways to keep the offense on the field. 392 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 4: And we've seen the last couple of years the offense 393 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 4: has been so ineffective on third down. We've never gotten 394 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 4: to see a rhythm, you know, anything that the coach 395 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 4: could get into the third and fourth segments of his playbook. 396 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 4: He was always in the first segment because you had 397 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 4: to do the fundamentals right, and they didn't. 398 00:18:58,840 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: So I'm excited to see that too. 399 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: You too. 400 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna build off a little bit of what John 401 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: was talking about with the offense because I said, how 402 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: about a hot start, because why not, let's think positive. 403 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: I've got my teel colored glasses on. I'm gonna think 404 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: positive about this because I think sometimes it's a benefit 405 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: when people don't know what you're gonna bring out there. 406 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: Because we don't know what we're gonna see. The opponents 407 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna see. So I think the 408 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna start out hot. The Panthers, I think 409 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: they get a win the Bengals always start slow, so 410 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be optimistic and go with a little three 411 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: and one to start the season. 412 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: Is my almost the last time. 413 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 4: It's been a long time around here since we've seen 414 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: a hot start, a fast start for a Jaguars team. 415 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: And it's hot weather here, so why not have a 416 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: hot start? That's what I'm going with. But I'm just 417 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: going with the John what we're talking about. We don't 418 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: know what we're gonna see yet, right, They don't know 419 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: what they're gonna see out of the Jaguars, So let's 420 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: think positive. 421 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 5: Yeah again. The next couple of weeks and No answered 422 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 5: a lot of his own questions. 423 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think? 424 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 5: It's so hard because even after pre season now and 425 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 5: you only see three series. Okay, we saw a little 426 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 5: bit I like first team offense, I like we saw 427 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 5: at Trevor, but we didn't see any skiming. 428 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: So what's it gonna look like? 429 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 5: And it's gonna be fun the first few weeks to 430 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 5: see what this looks like. 431 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: Something will happen. Yep, we'll be here to see it. 432 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: Stay with us. We'll tell you what's coming up. The 433 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: rest of the week before the start of the season. 434 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: Jagsvams. 435 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: If you want to customize Jaguars furniture for your home, 436 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: checkout zipchare dot com to rouse all the customizable options. 437 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: Zip Chair is furniture for fans. 438 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: I feel good. 439 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 7: I think are the work we've put in will show 440 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 7: during the season. The work we put in during camp. 441 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 7: Today wasn't our best showing. But you know, Grant made 442 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 7: a great point to the quarterbacks after practice. At the 443 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 7: end of the day, we're not going to be judged 444 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 7: on how today went. You know that this is just today, 445 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 7: and you put it in a box, you learn from it, 446 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 7: you move on. That doesn't determine what we do in 447 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 7: week one versus Carolina, just like tomorrow won't determine I start, 448 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 7: what we do in Carolina. It's just an accumulation of 449 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 7: all the days and take all the information and learning 450 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 7: from it, growing from it and understanding that it's all 451 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 7: making us better to get. 452 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: Us to a place to where My Week one or 453 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: way to. 454 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: Go was Trevor Lawrence after joined practice in Miami. The 455 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: last week saw of him for training camp because he 456 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: didn't play in that final preseason game. But we're talking 457 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: about Liam Collen what to expect from him. We need 458 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: to see more out of Trevor this season. 459 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be a fascinating storyline. 460 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 5: Early I thought There's been a lot of times during 461 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 5: training camp, Brian where I liked what I saw from Trevor. 462 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 5: There were other times, such as Thursday, where he was 463 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 5: the first to admit too sloppy. Realistically, it makes sense 464 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 5: that there would still be growing pains in a new offense, 465 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 5: with new footwork, etc. 466 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 2: I feel like he's going to. 467 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 5: Start off at a solid level, and I'm curious to 468 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 5: see when solid can turn into spectacular. 469 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: But that's the storyline for the first six weeks. 470 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, he sounded like a coach there. I mean talking 471 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 4: about a growth mindset. I appreciated that I hadn't heard 472 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 4: that from him in recent years. It always felt like 473 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 4: he was regurgitating what the coaches had talked to him about, 474 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 4: and this time he was explaining it in greater detail. 475 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 4: I asked him on Friday about his leadership because I 476 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: I've seen and I've heard a different Trevor Lawrence this year, 477 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: and he said that Liam's program, the way that Liam 478 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 4: handles things, has allowed him to step up and to 479 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 4: be more of a leader, still retaining his own individual 480 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 4: qualities because he's never going. 481 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: To be a loud mouth. 482 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 4: But he really appreciates the position he's in to rise 483 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: to the challenge that Liam gave him to be the quarterback, 484 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 4: to be the guy that leads this team, and I've 485 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 4: seen it from him consistently in August. It was great 486 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 4: to hear him say that in that SoundBite, and then 487 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 4: even more to tell us that he really believed that 488 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 4: Liam was setting the table for him to do it. 489 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: Yep. 490 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: I think the setup is there. It'll be his to 491 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: take advantage of cut down days tomorrow. We're not going 492 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: to be here for that. Well, we'll be in the building. 493 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: Excuse me. Our show's not back for the rest of 494 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: this week, so we'll talk about this when we get 495 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: back and kind of get into Week one action next week. 496 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: But I think it's fair to expect for fans that 497 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: there might be some waiverwire moves. Whatever the roster is 498 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: on Tuesday might not be the roster by next week. 499 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: I think point on that. 500 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: So we'll keep an eye on that and we will 501 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: see you next week. Enjoy your last weekend free of 502 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: NFL football. But then we'll be back for the real 503 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: deal in Week one,