1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Campell Annawaki is a production of I Heart Radio. The 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: views and opinions express in this podcast are solely those 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: of the author and participants and do not necessarily represent 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: those of I Heart Media or its employees. Due to 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: discussion of traumatic, sexual, and violent content, listener discretion is advised. 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: The Girls campus was set back, I don't know, maybe 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: a mile and a half along a very winding gravel road. 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: When you pulled into North campus, the first building that 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: you saw was the lodge. Off to the right and 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: straight ahead was a bell tower, and then a stone 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: path with steps leading up to the administration building and 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: the clinic across the way, and what was called the 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: dorm behind the nick, which originally was only for v 14 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: I p S coming to stay on campus for whatever reason. 15 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: And that was it. That was literally all we had. 16 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: I believe that there were some trailers kind of tucked 17 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: away where more of the administration maybe clerical offices were, 18 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: but it was very primitive. Everything was painted in what 19 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: they called an awake beige, and it's very eerie to 20 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: find out later that these colors and the design of 21 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: the buildings, with the arches in the doorways and the 22 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: tile on the wrap round port was reflective of Mexico. 23 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: I was admitted to an Awake April eleven, nineteen eighty three, 24 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: and I terminated May thirty one, nineteen and I was 25 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: one thirty eight c. This is Sandy. She's as survivor 26 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: of Annawaki. By the late nineteen seventies, Annawaki had expanded 27 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: its reach into Florida and was now annually taking trips 28 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: into other countries, but there were still one demographic the 29 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: Annawaki Foundation was yet to reach, troubled female youth. Louis Petter, 30 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: once again using his skill as a community outreach, now 31 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: with a reputed treatment center with a history of working 32 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: with the state, opened up the Annawaki North Campus in Rockmar, 33 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: Georgia in nineteen seventy nine. In a letter to the 34 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: John Below Campbell Foundation, a Christian grant organization, Louis Petter 35 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: lays his plans for the new facility, quote the girls 36 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: program will be located on three acres of land outside 37 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: of Yorkville in Polk County. Anna Waki has been very 38 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: fortunate in having one of its very good friends provide 39 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: a financial loan to secure the land at a purchase 40 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: price of one d and thirty thousand dollars. By the 41 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: time Sandy was admitted, the program had already had over 42 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: one hundred patients. Sandy remembers the event that led to 43 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: her admittance. I was dating a boy that was a 44 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: little bit older than myself, and I told him at 45 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: that point that I wanted to run away from home, 46 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: so we made plans to do that, and I actually 47 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: was a runaway for about three weeks and turned myself 48 00:03:53,800 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: in finally, and I actually told the police it. I 49 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: wanted to be put in foster care because I was 50 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: so unhappy with my home life. And my parents showed 51 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: up to take me home, and they lied to me 52 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: and told me that those arrangements couldn't be made until 53 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: the following week. And so I got home, and about 54 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: an hour after I got home, they sat me down 55 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: and told me that they were going to take me 56 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: somewhere for evaluation, and they literally bodily threw me in 57 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: the car and they drove me straight there. I went 58 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: through a battery of testing, at which point at the 59 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: end of this they told me they were going to 60 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: admit me, and I became hysterical and ran to my 61 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: mother in the lobby and fell to my knees and 62 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: begged her, crying, please don't leave me here, please, you know, 63 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: I promise I'll be good. And she had some tears 64 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: running down her cheeks, but without a word, she just 65 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: turned away and walked away and left me. So that 66 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: was how I was told. There was no warning at all. 67 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: It was devastating. The physical labor was forced upon the 68 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: girls at the rock Mark campus, just as it was 69 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: the boys in Douglasville and Carabelle. A new campus had 70 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: to be built the rest of our day. After breakfast, 71 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: we would work from probably eight thirty or nine until 72 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: eleven thirty, I believe, and we did various projects, and 73 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: all of them were very physical. Sometimes we would work 74 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: on lance aping projects, working with heavy wheelbarrows, rakes, shovels, 75 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: digging holes post hole diggers. The hardest project that I 76 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: remember doing my first summer, we were building a campsite 77 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: at the top of a very high ridge. We were 78 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: hauling two by four's and a frames and shingles and 79 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: bags of mortar and cement. So at age fifteen, they 80 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: would have us bend over and they would put a 81 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: bag of mortar on our back, which weighed forty six 82 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 1: pounds or a bag of cement on our back which 83 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: weighed four pounds, and we were to hold and carry 84 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: that bag of mortar or cement bent over up a 85 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: mountain in order to make the footings for the cabins. 86 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: The girls in my particular group were fourteen and fifteen 87 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: years old, maybe sixteen years old, and I can't imagine 88 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: how hard it must have been for the girls that 89 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: were twelve and thirteen. And this was the middle of 90 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: the summer, in a terrible heat wave, and even though 91 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: we were in the mountains, it was very, very hot 92 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: temperatures well into the nineties. Sometimes up to a hundred 93 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: girls were getting heat exhaustion and heat stroke, and they 94 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: would discourage us from sitting down and taking a break 95 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: and drinking water. They would give us very very short 96 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: breaks we were allowed to sit down and stop working. 97 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: This type of grueling forced labor would lead to a 98 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: number of health issues for Sandy as well as others. 99 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: All of the physical labor that I did, and they 100 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: kept me in Takkada for fifteen months, so I was 101 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: in a work group longer than most girls were, and 102 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: shortly after getting out of an Awaki, I developed back problems. 103 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: Very very young in my twenties, and I was actually 104 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: diagnosed with degenerative di disease when I was thirty one 105 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: years old, which they told me was very young to 106 00:08:52,360 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: have that condition. Already, my spine has literally disintegrated to 107 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: the point where I am now fifty two years old 108 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: and I am almost bedridden. I have severe spinal stenosis, 109 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: which is a narrowing of the spinal canal that protects 110 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: and houses the nerves. I have spinal stenosis, severe spinal 111 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: stenosis in my neck and my lumbar area, and it 112 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: is excruciatingly painful and the only option that I have 113 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: is major surgery. I contracted a very rare neurological condition 114 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: called complex regional pain syndrome acronym CRPS when I was 115 00:09:54,559 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: in my early forties. It is an extremely rare condition 116 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: that is a disorder of the sympathetic and parasympathetic set 117 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: parts of the nervous system, and it results in my 118 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: brain constantly sending pain signals to various parts of my 119 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: body believing that there is an injury there so there 120 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: is subsequent redness and swelling and pain where there is 121 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: no injury. And there are many of us from North 122 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: campus that have contracted a lot of rare diseases. Many 123 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: of us are already deceased, and we're only in our 124 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: early to mid to late fifties m M. Over the 125 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: past several weeks we have received the number of very 126 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: serious allegations concerning both the facility out there in a 127 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: number of individuals involved with him. It was just a 128 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: form of their therapy. They were told to do it, 129 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: and at the time he was fourteen and a half 130 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: fifteen years old, they didn't know any better. I asked him, 131 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: why are you letting this happen? Why are you covering 132 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: up for Louis Packer. He had no answer to that question. 133 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: Involved having in this situation paid a little could be 134 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: such a district way, and to do absolutely the contrary 135 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: of what they should have done. I'm disturbed little the 136 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,359 Speaker 1: fact of something. It gets still one on it. Anyway. 137 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Stein and this is Camp hell in a Waki. 138 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: I think they opened the campus in January of seventy nine, 139 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: and I came in August. My name is Kelly Lewis, 140 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: and at the time I had a laundry number, and 141 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: that laundry number was thirty three F I was the 142 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: thirty third girl. My last name then was Fisher. Kelly 143 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: says at that point the girls would receive two laundry numbers, 144 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: one to show your number from the rock Mart campus, 145 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: and the second an overall number from the boys and 146 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: girls combined. The first number was the number of girls, 147 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: so I was the thirty third female. Then it was 148 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: always your last name initial, and then the number of 149 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: persons who had come through the door at Anawaki. So 150 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: when I came, I was the nine hundred and fifty 151 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: five person to come. I attended from A D to 152 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: eighty three, and I was fifteen to eighteen years old. 153 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: I left the day after my eighteenth birthday. Kelly says 154 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: that Annawak's female campus was also receiving patients from wards 155 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: of the state or through the juvenile court system, as 156 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: in her case. I was sent to Annawaki because I 157 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: had a long history of behavior issues. I had been 158 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: placed in foster care and group homes and even did 159 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: time in a y d C. And they had told 160 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: me that I would be sentenced to due time at 161 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: the Makin y d C, which was the girl's y 162 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: d C. It's the Making Youth Detention Center, and someone 163 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: in the court took a liking to me and found 164 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: annawaky for me and said uh in court one day 165 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: that they would like to consider that if my parents 166 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: insurance would cover it. I was a ward of the 167 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: state at that point, which meant the state had custody 168 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: of me, but they required my parents to continue my insurance. 169 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: Both my parents were truck drivers for the same company 170 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: and they drove eight two wheelers. They had good insurance. 171 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: We had Blue Cross Blue Shield and it covered most 172 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,239 Speaker 1: of my stay there until my parents lost their employment. 173 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: A week's fees for enrollment had increased exponentially since being 174 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: accredited as a medical hospital. Kelly's family would soon see 175 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: the result of not being able to keep up with 176 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: these payments. As I was looking through my records, I 177 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: noticed that there were letters about how much in arrears 178 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: my parents were and paying their part, and it was 179 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: decided that I would work and did work details at 180 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: Aniwiki just like everyone else. But on Sunday, everyone else 181 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: was off quote unquote and they would not have to work, 182 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: but I had to go and work in the kitchen 183 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: to pay the arrears on my parents account. So I 184 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: worked my way through reform school. I guess we laid 185 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: brick and block until our hands bled. We carried brick 186 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: and block on our backs and shingles on our shoulders, 187 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: and we would mix cement on the road and then 188 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: we would fill wheelbarrows full of it and push them 189 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: a mile up the side of a mountain. And you know, 190 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: we were girls. I was five ft tall and weighed 191 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight pounds, and I was probably pushing 192 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: my weight or more in that wheel barrel. The mortar 193 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: bags weighed ninety odd pounds, and we would put them 194 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: on our shoulders or on our backs, and bundles of shingles. 195 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: I was famous for four bundles of shingles up the 196 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: side of a mountain. I was very strong. I'm low 197 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: to the ground. I have torque. I was a mule 198 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: for them. I'm a physical person, so I was always 199 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: focused on working, and I felt like we just needed 200 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: to get done whatever we needed to get done, no 201 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: matter what the costs to our bodies. I saw lots 202 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: of bloody and blistered hands where we would have to 203 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: dig footings for our cabins, and we did those with 204 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: shovels and picks and maddox, and uh, it was hard work. 205 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: Especially in the side of a mountain. Rock marked is 206 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: called rock mart for a reason. The dirt is full 207 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: of rocks and we would have to dig them out, 208 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: and we also dug out houses, which had to be 209 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: eighteen feet deep. We would climb into these holes and 210 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: with an army shovel and pick and maddox and phillip 211 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: buckets and send them up while we dug these holes. 212 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: I loved that part. I loved being inside the earth digging. 213 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: I loved, you know, the smell of it, in the 214 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: closeness to you know, nature. I really did enjoy that. 215 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: But a lot of the work was very hard and 216 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: and very hard on on bodies, on hands, and the 217 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: focus during those first years was on building the campsite, 218 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: which I look back now, we we built an empire 219 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: for a pedophile. That's a very difficult thing to to 220 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: think about, but that's what we did. He made millions 221 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: of dollars off what we needed to house more people 222 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: so that he could pull in more money. Kelly too, 223 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: would suffer great health issues due to the backbreaking labor 224 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: from her time in Anawiki. This seems to be a 225 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: constant from every survivor who attended the Rock mart campus 226 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: I spoke with. As I look through my records time 227 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: after time after time, I see Kelly was in the 228 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: clinic being treated for back pain. And I have struggled 229 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: with back pain in my entire life. I've not had 230 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: surgery for it. Um. They wanted to do surgery on 231 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: my back since I was twenty seven, and I've refused 232 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: because I didn't want to run the risk involved. But 233 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: I've I've seen a chiropractor and many doctors and taking 234 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: medications all for back pain my my entire life. Here's Terry. 235 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: She attended in a Waki during the same time as Kelly. 236 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: She remembers the physical labor and how it has affected her. 237 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: Still as I sit here now, my back still hurts. 238 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: I think I've had a backgate since I was fourteen 239 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: years old because we literally would fill wheelbarrels with huge 240 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: cender blocks and bricks and we would have to haul 241 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: on these hills out in the woods to the sites 242 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: where we were building buildings and so um it is 243 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: very very hard. The other thing that was really painful physically, 244 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: I remember we had to carry creosotes, these huge I 245 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: guess like what telephone poles are made out of, and 246 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: it would be like two of us up on our 247 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: shoulders going up these hills. It was like a black 248 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: tar something that would yeah rub off on our necks 249 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: and our shoulders. We would get burns and blisters. All 250 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: they would do is take us to a clinic, but 251 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: basically they would just wipe you off and put a 252 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: band aid on you, and you go right back out 253 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: to work. Even when you were sick, like in the wintertime. 254 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: You know, imagine having a bad cold and having to 255 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: work outside in the pouring, freezing rain. It didn't matter. 256 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: We had to work in all conditions, especially living in tepee's. 257 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: When it would rain in the wintertime, the rain would 258 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: run down the teepee poles and our beds are cuts 259 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: were up against the poles and so it would literally 260 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: just so the bottom of our sleeping bags. And there 261 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: were times we would wake up with like a block 262 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: of ice at the bottom of our sleeping bag from 263 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: the rain and when it froze. Talk about not being 264 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: able to warm your feet, it was. It was brutal. 265 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: My back and my neck will never be the same ever. 266 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 1: Here's Sheryld, another survivor of In a Weeki's North Campus 267 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: in Rock Mart some of us were really tiny girls. 268 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: I know when I went there, I probably weighed hundred pounds, 269 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: hundred pounds. I just like that. We were physically abused 270 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: on the sense that we were having to do some 271 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: things that you know, eighteen year old, strapping young boys do, 272 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: and we were some of us were eleven, twelve years old, 273 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: you know, even sixteen, we were fully grown and developed. 274 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: We would have to carry you know, five gallon full 275 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: water jugs up the side of the mountain to get 276 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: to the campsites. I remember carrying almost a hundred pound 277 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: bags of cement on our backs. I remember we'd have 278 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: to bend, you know, bend forward, and people would put 279 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: the cements on our back, on our the bags of 280 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: the dry cement on our backs. We would have to 281 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: clear trees, and I mean big trees. We would have 282 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: to haul the big logs to clear ways for campsites, 283 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: retention ponds, stuff like that. I got there after the 284 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: building of most of the campsites were completed for the women. 285 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:47,239 Speaker 1: I stayed in a frame tent for the first my 286 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: first group, and then the second group. I was in 287 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: a cabin which was a lot nicer, but we still 288 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: used lanterns it was freezing. It was freezing in those 289 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: storage mountains. We were basically helping to develop land for them. 290 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: We were free labor. I think a lot of us 291 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: when we were there, we wanted to just get there 292 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 1: and get out, and we pretty much did whatever they 293 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: told us. In comparison to in a week these other 294 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: two campuses in Douglasville and Carabell. The women's campus does 295 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: have a lot of similarities, forced labor for hours on end, 296 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: resulting in injuries, using this labor to build out the campus, 297 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: denying education to the miners who did said work. But 298 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: with these similarities, the mentality of the campus seemed to 299 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: be a little different. Often, the boys campuses would be 300 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: described as a Lord of the Flies type situation where 301 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: only the strong survive and the boys would often punish 302 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: and regulate each other. While this may have not been 303 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: the case of the girls campus, the dynamic between counselors 304 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: and patients was largely the same. We were very affectionate 305 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: with one another. We were encouraged to hug, we were 306 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: encouraged to stroke each other's hair. I remember sitting and 307 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: laying my head in someone's lap and having them stroke 308 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: my hair and feeling very full of love and affection 309 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: for this person. It wasn't sexual. We were encouraged to 310 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: be affectionate with each other. And I don't know if 311 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: that was something that the staff enjoyed to see or 312 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: if it was something that they encouraged to build a 313 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: family type structure. It's confusing because I think they mask 314 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: it with the fact that they were trying to build 315 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: family type structures within our groups, but it ended up 316 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: being we were teenagers and there were hormones everywhere, and 317 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: it ended up a lot of times being interactive. The 318 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: mentality it's hard to explain because nobody wanted to be there. 319 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't really a good atmosphere. It was depressing having 320 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: to work like that. It felt like jail or something, 321 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: and everybody just wanted to get as many brownie points 322 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: as they could and do whatever they could to get out. 323 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: That was the main goal was just follow the rules, 324 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: do everything they say, and do everything you can to 325 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: stay on the group leaders good side and the counselors 326 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: and um, you know, and hopefully get out. There was 327 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: one time when we were having like a group meeting. 328 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: We would have you know, group meetings in the evenings 329 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: to talk about our day and feelings and how people 330 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: got along and different situations that might have come up. 331 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: And I can remember a lot of the group meetings 332 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: started turning into the counselors confronting girls about not being opened, 333 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: like physically, like they have a wall up and you 334 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: need to let that wall down. And they did different exercises, 335 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: like they made one girl lay on the ground and 336 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: everybody had to like rubber and massager until she would 337 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: feel comfortable. And that felt very uncomfortable. And one girl 338 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: in particular, I mean was crying. I I felt like 339 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: being forced to have to rub her and touch her. 340 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: I felt like I was assaulting her. But you do 341 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: what you're told. You know, you don't want to go 342 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: against the group leader. I don't want to lose any 343 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: brownie points. So Terry remembers one particular trip to Cumberland 344 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: Island near Savannah, Georgia. It is here where she was 345 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: informed that an impromptu ceremony was held between a counselor 346 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: and patient. The group I was in we went on 347 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: a trip to Cumberland Island. It's hard to remember how 348 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: long we were there. I want to say at least 349 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: ten days. It felt like two weeks. It was a 350 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: long time, and we literally camped out on this island 351 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: and that was I was in the group where my 352 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: two group leaders had a relationship with each other, and 353 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: so they were much more affectionate on this trip. We 354 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: would see him kiss, we could hear him, you know, 355 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: I guess, having sex in their tent. And then we 356 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: started a couple of girls, one of my best friends 357 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: out there. We noticed another girl was getting really close 358 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: with one of the group leaders, and she shared with 359 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: us that she had a marriage ceremony out on the 360 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: beach and that they were a couple. And I was 361 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: just so surprised. I didn't really understand, but I knew 362 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: it probably wasn't right. I don't know, and I kind 363 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: of felt sorry for my friend who um was in 364 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: the relationship, because I think she was really naive. I 365 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: don't know it changed her, but it didn't seem like 366 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: in a good way. Here's Sandy again. She says that 367 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: at the rock Mark campus, counselors and patients alike tended 368 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: to be physical with each other in normal day to 369 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: day activities. She says this could be very confusing for 370 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: a young child at the time. Allegedly, the group itself 371 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: was to represent the family that we don't have anymore. 372 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of physical touch that was 373 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: encouraged by the staff. There, girls who were constantly hugging, 374 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: holding hands, sitting in between each other's legs during group psychotherapy, 375 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: things that looking back on, it was so inappropriate. It 376 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 1: was almost like they were pushing a certain you know, 377 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: same sex culture, and yet forbidding it to happen at 378 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: the same time. I am just appalled when I looked 379 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: back and realized how incredibly inappropriate that was, and that 380 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: that was encouraged. If a girl tried to sit by herself, 381 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: she would have been called out for doing that by 382 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: the group or by the group leaders as trying to 383 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: be isolating, you see. So that was very uncomfortable to 384 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: think about. And I was fourteen. I was kind of 385 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: naive for my age, and so I really didn't learn 386 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: what lesbian was till I got to an awake and 387 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: saw how some of the girls had intimate relationships and counselors. 388 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: A couple of my group leaders were intimate with each other, 389 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: and I understood then that they were like a couple, 390 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: and so that's kind of how I learned about what 391 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: lesbians were. They were to hold hands, they would kiss, 392 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: they would sleep in the same tp or cabin, depending 393 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: on what group I was in, because I went through 394 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: different groups that it was. It was a pretty common 395 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: thing out there. I mean, it happened frequently. It didn't 396 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: take long once a group was formed and you had 397 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: your counselors. I mean, it was just a matter of 398 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: time before people started building different relationships. I started noticing, 399 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: like a counselor would favor a certain girl and they 400 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: would spend a lot of time together, and and then 401 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: it would, you know, be that they would sleep in 402 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: the same tent or cabin together, and you know, and 403 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: then everybody knows that something's going on. Eventually we figure out, okay, 404 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: they must be having a relationship. And it happened a 405 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: lot different counselors with different girls. I just happened to 406 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: be in a group where both of our counselors fell 407 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: in love with each other, but they were also very 408 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: flirty with us as patients. Here Survivor Cheryl again. She 409 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: also says that close relationships were encouraged between the patients 410 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: and group leaders. This encouragement would soon lead to the 411 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: same type of sexual abuse seen on the other Nawaki campuses. 412 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: I feel like that it was encouraged for us to 413 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: have close relationships with both our peers and our group leaders, 414 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: and specifically me, I had a problem with some of 415 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: of the people, some of the group leaders. I tend 416 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: to kind of shy away from the people that were 417 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: really loud, really boisterous, even though I was kind of 418 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: loud and boisterous too. The group leaders just kind of 419 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: scared me. I remember feeling kind of at their mercy. 420 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: Every night if we pissed them off. They had these 421 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: sticky notes that they would write about us every night 422 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: by lantern. They would write them in their cabin or 423 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: the tent or whatever. They basically would just write little 424 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: excerpts about how we were that day, what our attitude 425 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: was like, what group was like, whatever. One night, I 426 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: was sleeping in my cabin and I woke up and 427 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: one of the group leaders was down between my legs. 428 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: I woke up and I remember she put her hand 429 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: over my mouth and told me to don't say a word. 430 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: And basically, as it went on, I if I had 431 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: said anything, I was told that. I mean, for once 432 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: she would get in trouble, she would have to leave, 433 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: and then Basically my life would be screwed because I 434 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: would get things written about me that would make me 435 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: have to stay longer because I thought I was there 436 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: as you know, had to be there. I didn't know 437 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: that I could have walked when I was eighteen years old. 438 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't there as a ward of the state or 439 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: through d CFS or whatever. So that's kind of how 440 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: that started. It didn't go on for a really long 441 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: period of time, but there was, you know, jealousy on 442 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: her part. She had a hard time. I was close 443 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: to another group leader that was you never did anything inappropriate, 444 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: and I think she had a hard time with that. 445 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: I think she was just scared me my being close 446 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: with the other group leader, that I was going to 447 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: wrap her out. And I was scared out of my 448 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: mind to wrap her out. There was no way that 449 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: I was going to stay there, not one day longer 450 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: than I had to. So, you know, I feel like 451 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: she kind of had me over a barrel, so to speak. 452 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: Here's Jill. She was another victim of the abuse going 453 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: on at Rock Mart. She says that this type of 454 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: abuse was known among counselors, even shared when it first began. 455 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: I was in the Nichia group, and we were building 456 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: our camp site, so we would all sleep in this 457 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: one tent that the floor was actually done in the 458 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: rest of the camp site wasn't complete. We would all 459 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: pile up in this one place on the tongue and 460 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: group floors that we had put in. And there was 461 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: this one group leader that kept coming onto me and um, 462 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: I didn't even know what. I hate to say this, 463 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: I didn't even know what gay was at that point. 464 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: I was so young and wild and in my own 465 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: little element. I wasn't even sure what homosexuality was back then. 466 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: To tell you, it's roof so she would she molested me. 467 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: After that incident, I got moved to another group. It 468 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: was like they were passing me around. There was another 469 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: group with another group leader that molested me. Also. I 470 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: did not try to report it. I didn't understand it. 471 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: It made my life easier, so I didn't say anything. 472 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: I would like the favorite. I couldn't do anything wrong. 473 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: Kites of Things survivor Kelly Lewis says that while the 474 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: sexual abuse was happening between ouncers and patients, it was 475 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: being presented in a consensual way to other patients. We 476 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: were convinced by the staff there that anything that had 477 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: happened sexually was consensual, and that the girls and the 478 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: group leaders had relationships. And what I know now as 479 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: an adult is that they were victims. They weren't part 480 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: of the of the relationship. It wasn't a relationship. It 481 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: was an authority figure, it was an adult, and it 482 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: was a child who was held captive. And in that situation, 483 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: your choice is gone. You don't have the choice to 484 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: say no, I don't want to be doing us. You 485 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: just don't. I was in a group with one student 486 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: who was transferred to another group because it was discovered 487 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: that she had feelings for the group leader. Well, it 488 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: never came out that they had a sexual relationship until 489 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: later when that same group leader was confronted by me 490 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: for having a relationship with another student. Kelly shared a 491 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: group with Cheryl while her abuse was taking place. She 492 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: recalls an incident during a group meeting where she chose 493 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: to speak up about what she thought was happening. While 494 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: at the time she believed this to be a consensual relationship, 495 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 1: she sees today that in actuality, it was a child 496 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: being taken advantage of the situation happened over the course 497 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: of several days where a group leader and one of 498 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: the students kept having snippy little arguments, and there was 499 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: a level of frustration. And I ended up, after probably 500 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: the second or third day of that tension going on, 501 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: we were behind schedule, and I was a stickler for 502 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: being on schedule, and it was because of this argument 503 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: that they were continuing to have. So I ended up 504 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: calling a group meeting in the middle of a trail 505 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: in the woods, and I said, everybody's circle up. I 506 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: need to get this, I need to say something. I 507 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: need to get this off my chest right now. And 508 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: I said to this student and to this group leader, 509 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what's going on between the two 510 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: of you, but all of this lover's quarrels going on 511 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: are putting us behind schedule, and it needs to end. 512 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: It needs to stop. Cheryl remembers Kelly speaking up that 513 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: day when she called a group meeting. Everything came to 514 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: a head with my situation with a group leader. Went 515 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: a fellow group member stopped us on the trail. I 516 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: specifically remember her saying basically, what the hell is going 517 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: on with you two? You need to knock it off, 518 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 1: and talking with her. She remembers looking at it as 519 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 1: a lover's quarrel, a lover lovers spat and back. Then 520 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: basically she stopped us. Things got confronted, the counselor had 521 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: to leave, and my group basically was mad at me. 522 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: They were told that it was a consensual relationship, and 523 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: it was not a consensual relationship by any way, shape 524 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: or form. I do know that there were several other 525 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: girls in the same situation as me in the sense 526 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,479 Speaker 1: that they had group leaders. Some of them the same, 527 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: some of them are different, different group leaders. I have 528 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: actually been reached out to by some group members, some 529 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: former group members that have told me they remember that 530 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: night having a group meeting and wishing that they could 531 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: just scream out and say this is happening to me too, 532 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: and they have a hard time sleeping at night knowing 533 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: they feel like that they could have done something to 534 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: help me or to help themselves, but they were terrified 535 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,479 Speaker 1: of that and so nobody really said anything. The group 536 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: was basically presented that I was having a relationship with 537 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: the group leader and because of me that she had 538 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: to leave. Kelly says that while the punishment of the 539 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: counselor was not known Cheryl as a victim endured the 540 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: brunt of many restrictions and punishments at Anna Waki for 541 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: her involvement. That first night, actually we thought she might 542 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: run away, so we all slept in one giant room. 543 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,959 Speaker 1: There was a building. There was just one big room 544 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: for the you know, the evaluation observation unit, and we 545 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 1: slept in that room that night with her in the center, 546 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 1: and we circled her to keep her from running away. 547 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: I think I remember her being on what we called 548 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: three foot We also called it belt looping because you 549 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: had to hold on to someone else's belt loop, you know, 550 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: to be within three ft of another person at all times. 551 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: And she was put on what was called board campus, 552 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: which was a really strong restriction. You couldn't go on 553 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: home visits, you couldn't go on nights out, you couldn't 554 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,439 Speaker 1: go on store runs. You were basically restricted and had 555 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: to stay on on campus at all times. The student 556 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: has carried that with her, has had to carry that 557 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: with her, and that she was punished for being raped, 558 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: and this group leader took advantage of the situation and 559 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: took advantage of her. It still is astonishing to me 560 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: that she was punished for it. For the girls who 561 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: attended the Anawaki North campus in Rockmart, the abuse they 562 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: were subjected to did not end with just the counselors 563 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: a wing to Terry. There were other visitors who too 564 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: were taking advantage of the girls, some even from the church. 565 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: I was Catholic and my parents wanted them to approve 566 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: to have a priest come out at least once a 567 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: month so that I could have communion and confession and 568 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: anna wake. You wouldn't allow that, but they did offer 569 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: that I could meet with their chaplain like once a week. 570 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: My understanding of the chaplain at and awake you, I 571 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 1: guess he was like a preacher and he volunteered to 572 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: come out and give spiritual guidance, but that never happened. 573 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: The first time I met him, I immediately like got 574 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: the creeps. I could just tell um the way he 575 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: talked to me, the way he looked at me when 576 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 1: he would hug me, like he would like purposely press 577 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: my breast up against him or his hand would you know, 578 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: touch my breast, and um, he would say, oh, you 579 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: were looking so pretty today, and just um commenting about 580 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: my clothes or my tops. You could tell he was 581 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: like coming on to me, and I wasn't the only one. 582 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: He did it to other girls too, so it was 583 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: just a I don't know. We called him the happy chappie, 584 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: but um it was really in a bad way. He 585 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 1: we didn't trust him at all. Terry says the girls 586 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: would all be taken to a dentist who was connected 587 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 1: with an Awaki. She says he too would take advantage 588 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: of the patients physically and financially. They would put us 589 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: all in the van to go to the dentist and 590 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: I remember the first time we went. I didn't have 591 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: any toothaches or anything, but somehow they I didn't believe him, 592 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: but they said I had like set it or eight cavities. 593 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I got a mouthful of fillings. I mean, 594 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: to this day, I've got all these feelings in my mouth. 595 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: I just don't think I needed them. And we all knew. 596 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: We laughed because we're like, he's just making money off 597 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: of us. That the worst part was the dentist was 598 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: a pervert. There was no doubt about it. I think 599 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: I was the first one to go in and so 600 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: I remember when they laid me back on the chair 601 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: and they gave me laughing gas. But even before the 602 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: laughing gas. The it's like a cloth napkin that they 603 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: would pin around your neck, you know, so you don't 604 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 1: soil your clothes. He would lay his instruments across that napkin, 605 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: in other words, across our chest instead of them remaining 606 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: on the little table where the instruments probably belonged. And 607 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: so every time he would go to grab an instrument, 608 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, I would feel them like pinch my nipple 609 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: or of my breast, and it was it was a 610 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: horrible feeling, and I just wanted to get out of there. 611 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: And so I remember after I got all my teeth 612 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: filled and went out, I told the other girls. I 613 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: was like, watch out, he's gonna put the instruments on 614 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: your chest and touch you. And everybody said the same thing. 615 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't the only one. The same thing happened. 616 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: Here's survivor Kelly Lewis. When I was at Anna Wiki, 617 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,280 Speaker 1: I went to the dentist, and as an adult, almost 618 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,240 Speaker 1: every tooth in my head is full as with a filling, 619 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 1: and over the years my teeth have become brittle because 620 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: they're they're the mercury fillings. I never had them replaced 621 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: so they're the metal fillings. But obviously they had some 622 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: sort of deal going with the dentist because I never 623 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: had a cavity before I went to Anna Wiki Ever, 624 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:04,240 Speaker 1: never a cavity. I don't have genetically bad teeth, and 625 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: when I left there, almost every tooth in my head 626 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: was filled. During Terry's time at Antawaki, she chose to 627 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: write about her experience there. Probably around my second year 628 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 1: at Atawaki, I earned my music privilege, my guitar privilege. 629 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: So my parents sent me a guitar, and I taught 630 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: myself how to play and loved to sing, and so 631 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: I decided to write a song about an awake. The 632 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: first song I wrote was I guess, kind of like 633 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: a survival song. I tried to make it really positive 634 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: and make it a good thing and maybe get some 635 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: brownie points, because everybody teased me, They're like, you're really 636 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,439 Speaker 1: gonna get on Doc Petter's good side, you know when 637 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: he hears this song, and I did, so I did. 638 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: I have the opportunity to record it in a studio 639 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: and ended up writing two songs. Terry provided me with 640 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: a copy of the record, which Antawaki funded to produce. 641 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: It is a forty five with two sides, a full 642 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: scale eighties production, including a string section, dual guitar solos, 643 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: and everything you would expect from something you may hear 644 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: on the radio at the time. The first song is 645 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: a tribute to an awake and what it claimed to be. 646 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: It's title an Awakey Love Pine Tree. It's just what 647 00:46:42,880 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: God take these things again. Branch sing Chess. That's the 648 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: B side of the record. While seemingly still a pro 649 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: and a waky song, has a bit of a darker 650 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: undertone to the lyrics. Terry sings tears may fall of loneliness. 651 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: In each drop, You'll see a child hurting deep inside, 652 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: yearning to be free. He need see child deep inside. 653 00:47:39,040 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 1: To Lewis Petter had high hopes for the record, wanting 654 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: to sell it to the families and an upcoming fellowship, 655 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: an Awak's annual fundraiser. I was going to perform it 656 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 1: at their fellowship where all the parents come once or 657 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: twice a year, and they were going to sell the 658 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: record to raise money. And my parents, I mean I 659 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: was only like fifteen or sixteen at the time, so 660 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: my parents were concerned about the money part of it, 661 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: and also Doc Petter was wanting the copyright of the music, 662 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: and so my parents ended up having to get a lawyer. 663 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: They had like a legal battle over it, which was unfortunate. 664 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: And I don't think they ever sold the records at 665 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: that fellowship. I can't remember they did let me sing 666 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: it though. In a correspondence to Terry's parents from one 667 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: of an Awaki's lawyers, three concerns are mentioned which her 668 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: parents wanted addressed. In an Awak's reply, their only response 669 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: is to point out the outstanding debt of her parents 670 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: for not just her, but her two brothers time in 671 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: the program as well. There seems to be the same 672 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: shuffling of correspondence from one lawyer to another board member 673 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: with nothing really being addressed. In a final letter from 674 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: board member Sarah Tillis, it is finally stated what other 675 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: concerns Terry's parents had, That their children had not received 676 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: the treatment for which they were paying, the concern over 677 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: the rights to Terry songs, and finally that they were 678 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: aware that Lewis Petter had been bringing their two sons 679 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 1: to a brothel in Mexico. Things were starting to leak 680 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: out about the wrongdoings at Inawaki for so long they 681 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: had gone on with no oversight that nobody thought anything 682 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 1: about it. With the number of students attending and the 683 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: price of admittance skyrocketing, parents were starting to question what 684 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: type of treatment their chidren we're really being provided. The 685 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:12,959 Speaker 1: inner structure of an awaki was beginning to crumble. Next 686 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: time on Camp Help an Awaki. My name is Chris 687 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: Newland and I am the executive director at the National 688 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 1: Children's Advocacy Center. We were actually the first child advocacy 689 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: center in the world. At Children's Advocacy Centers, what we 690 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 1: do is coordinate the multidisciplinary response to child abuse in 691 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: our communities. And this model includes partnerships and collaborations with 692 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: law enforcement, child protective services, medical providers, mental health professionals, prosecutors, 693 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 1: victim advocates, so all of us working in a coordinated manner. 694 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: At a child advocacy center, we conduct forensic interviews, we 695 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 1: do medical exams, We provide victim advocacy for children and 696 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: families when there's allegations of abuse. And this whole model, 697 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: which started in nine has revolutionized our nation's response to 698 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: child abuse and how we are making the process much 699 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 1: more child friendly and trauma and form and not causing 700 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: children to be re traumatized by a system that should 701 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: actually help them. Camp Hell anna Waki was created and 702 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: hosted by Josh Thane, with producer Miranda Hawkins and executive 703 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,280 Speaker 1: producers Alex Williams and Matt Frederick. The soundtrack was written 704 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: and performed by Josh Thane and Adrian Barry. Archival footage 705 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: provided by WSB and CBS News. 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