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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Aaron Glenn, of course, announced the Jets will

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Speaker 1: be starting to Rod Teller this weekend against the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna break down the quarterback decision and preview the

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Speaker 1: game ahead for the Green and White coming up right

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Speaker 1: now with Baldy and Bart and meet anybody in the world.

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Speaker 2: And I think we're gonna win next Sunday.

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Speaker 1: And that's what.

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Speaker 2: Gets wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Can't wait, put your seat belts on and getting ready

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Speaker 1: where team spirit meets personal style. Baldy and Bart great

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Speaker 1: seeing you guys. I know Bart's down in Maryland handing

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Speaker 1: out turkeys. Uh where are you right now, Baldy.

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Speaker 4: I'm right here my film room on third Florid, NFL Films,

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Speaker 4: Mount Laurel, New Jersey, not handing out any turkeys. But uh,

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Speaker 4: you know Bart's doing you know he's doing the yeomen's

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Speaker 4: work out there right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, we have a lot of three strikes as a turkey.

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Speaker 1: Well, we have a lot to be thankful for. This

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Speaker 1: is the Bart Scott super Bowl this week, Baldy, because

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Speaker 1: Bart started his career with the Ravens, and of course

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Speaker 1: it finishes his career with the Jets, and he still

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Speaker 1: has connections with both teams. I don't know, what do

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Speaker 1: we think about this matchup?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, all the more, you know, they're they're

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Speaker 4: you know, they're coming out of the crypt. They were

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Speaker 4: in it at one in five, but in the last

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Speaker 4: four games, nobody's put up twenty points on them, and uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, and that includes the.

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Speaker 5: Rams, who might be the hottest team in football.

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Speaker 4: Defensively, they got healthy, they got right, they you know,

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Speaker 4: they they picked up some some people added some pieces,

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Speaker 4: you know, to the back end of their defense. But

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Speaker 4: Kyle Hamilton, Rokwan, you know, some of the name teams

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Speaker 4: that are staples of raven style of defense are showing

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Speaker 4: up right now, and you got to account for these guys.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Bart, Before we get into that, what is it

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Speaker 1: gonna be like for you watching this game from one

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Speaker 1: to four o'clock there as you see your former teams battle.

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Speaker 2: I'm like the parent with the split jersey.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, half and half right down

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Speaker 3: the middle, baby, straight down the middle. Uh, it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be fun because last week you saw Cleveland could have

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Speaker 3: played spoiler, I mean one bit catch by yeah, by

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Speaker 3: the receiver, and everybody's looking at the Ravens like, man,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you lost to Cleveland. And you know,

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Speaker 3: conference games are always like that because the familiarity of it.

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Speaker 3: But Miles Garrett got busy four sacks against Action Jackson,

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Speaker 3: and I know he looked a little bit fresher with

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Speaker 3: his hamstring, But yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited to see

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Speaker 3: how these linebackers Quincy and Sherwood handle the physicality because

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Speaker 3: these are one of those games where like if you

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Speaker 3: and you declat King Henry or the car coming there,

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Speaker 3: and you you push this easy button and put that

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Speaker 3: factory reset back in his head, people gonna start looking

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Speaker 3: at you different ways. I always love games like this

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Speaker 3: where somebody had a big time tail back and a

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Speaker 3: big time full back because this this tough guy, so

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Speaker 3: you believe it.

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Speaker 2: Let me show you what I do to him too,

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter how little you are. It's the conviction.

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Speaker 3: But when you get in that, you get in that

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Speaker 3: hole because you're gonna get some traditional stuff. I broke,

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Speaker 3: you know, the player broke down right, and I'm sure

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Speaker 3: Baldy ran it. They had what we call a trump

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Speaker 3: look likely as yes, yes, like a double yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: so you had So you have a trump look. You

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Speaker 3: have a three hundred pound fullback coming there, right, So

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Speaker 3: they're gonna change the math and change the numbers, going

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Speaker 3: to see some of the most unique formations of personnel

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Speaker 3: you just have to have a plan for it, ain't

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Speaker 2: You gotta spill everything.

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Speaker 3: You got to seal your body with in the inside

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Speaker 3: And it's none of this like because all these are

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Speaker 5: Baby.

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Speaker 3: This is football like I love it. This is in

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Speaker 3: between the trenches. This is like if you're a man,

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Speaker 3: show me you a man, If you a tough guy,

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Speaker 3: to me, see a tough guy its body blows early

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Speaker 1: Well, you got your enthusiasm and your big points, big

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Speaker 1: pants on right now. But let's not bury the leave here, fellas.

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Speaker 1: The Jets are going to have a new starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: in Tarad Taylor. Baldy, what do you make of the decision?

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Speaker 1: But more so, how will Taylor's insertion into the lineup

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, first of all, you know, to Rod

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Speaker 4: time has slowed all of us down, not to quite saying,

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Speaker 4: but you know, I think one of the things we

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Speaker 4: We got to find out if these I mean, there's

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Speaker 4: gives you a better chance just for completions. Just get

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Speaker 4: the ball in these guys' hands. Let's cause they all show,

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Speaker 4: you know, they all show potential.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: A d Mitchell is six threes, two oh five. He

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Speaker 4: Torod came catmem in there and just get some simple

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Speaker 4: I think Torod gives you a better chance right now

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Speaker 3: Exactly right, touch and anticipation, right, you know, coming across

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Speaker 3: Mitchell really impressed me. I said, listen, I can't wait

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Speaker 3: I was very impressed, Like, yeah, the end result wasn't

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Speaker 2: Is a big man that can create separations. Because usually

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Speaker 3: He's a fifty to fifty ball guy, he's a DeAndre

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Speaker 3: you know, you don't make most guys don't make interceptions

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Speaker 3: They want to make the tackle, but you know, if

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Speaker 1: Right now, Baldi came out of New England encouraged because

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Speaker 1: Matchi got involved, he got the touchdown. He had three

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Speaker 1: he was winning off the line of scrimmage against a

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Speaker 4: Well, I agree with all those things, but you know,

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Speaker 4: here's the thing. Like Ady Mitchell was the fourth wide

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Speaker 4: When he was in Houston, they had all their I mean,

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Speaker 5: You know, when he came to Philly.

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Speaker 4: He didn't have a role in Philly, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: get a good six to seven game opportunity here to

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Speaker 4: because anybody that's watched Mason Taylor at practice in a

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Speaker 4: you know, Mason Taylor run some of these routes.

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Speaker 5: I mean, even like tight end screens that.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's running in this league, delayed screens coming like all

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Speaker 4: these all there's so many different ways to get these

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Speaker 4: situation right here. It's a fantastic opportunity to showcase themselves.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. Do you anticipate more shots down the field

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Speaker 1: with a guy like Taylor?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 3: I mean he throws a great deep ball and you're

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Speaker 3: gonna have opportunities. Listen, This Ravens secondary is you know,

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Speaker 3: decorated by name, but they give up plays and you know,

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Speaker 3: you talk about what I'm excited about. I mean, Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 3: well it was held relatively in check by this offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's reached the status of rookie

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Speaker 3: Mackai Becton, but man, when I see Baldy breakdown Memble,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he'll he's a guy that will lay on you,

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Speaker 1: Part how about the Jets guards, I mean, Joe Tipman

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Speaker 5: Start like you're starting to see this stuff. Now. He's new.

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Speaker 3: It's still effective because he's a threat to run away

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Speaker 1: What do you think of this? What do you think

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Speaker 5: Career, what's your role? He knows his role.

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Speaker 4: experience and he steps in a huddle and when he speaks,

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Speaker 4: he speaks. He's got command. Guys are listening to him,

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Speaker 4: and so I think this is a I think it's

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Speaker 4: good for him. He can can continue to extend his

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Speaker 4: career if he chooses to, because you know, if he

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Speaker 4: going to.

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Speaker 5: Play the heels so he's forty, he can play till

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Speaker 5: he's forty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's really what it is, is solidifying your position, saying, hey, whatever,

444
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Speaker 3: young guy you decide to bring in here a drift

445
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Speaker 3: next year of the year. After that, I can mentor him.

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Speaker 3: You saw Jamis solidified hisself. I believe as the backup

447
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Speaker 3: for the giants. You got some of these guys that

448
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Speaker 3: are stars if they decide to not every guy can

449
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Speaker 3: make that transition to say, hey, I'm not the guy

450
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Speaker 3: anymore and let me support the guys behind me in

451
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Speaker 3: front of me, right. I think Russell struggles with that.

452
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Speaker 3: But you look at guys like Josh McCown. But you know,

453
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Speaker 3: Tyrod was a higher level than those guys. Look at

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Speaker 3: a guy like Fitzpatrick. He was highed to that because

455
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Speaker 3: he was picked to be a starter for an organization

456
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Speaker 3: before you know, he's not a career backup. He's a

457
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Speaker 3: backup that was a starter that now is a backup

458
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Speaker 3: that can play forever if he wants to. He can

459
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Speaker 3: play into a forty two years old because he's a

460
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Speaker 3: coach on the field. But when you call his number,

461
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Speaker 3: he ain't got to be warmed up on the bike.

462
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Speaker 3: He you know what I'm saying, give them time and

463
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Speaker 3: warm up the old shoulder and go out there. And

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Speaker 3: he'll go out there and he'll do a professional job.

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Speaker 4: And honestly, one of us, like if the Jets decided

466
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Speaker 4: to draft the quarterback, you know, you would want Tyrod

467
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Speaker 4: in that quarterback room with him. You'd want him to

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Speaker 4: be a part of this thing going forward to help

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Speaker 4: out anybody that comes in at whatever around he's drafted in.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure Jamis has helped out. In fact,

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Speaker 4: Jamis really wanted that role to help out Jackson Dark,

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Speaker 4: you know with the Giants, And I think to Rod,

473
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Speaker 4: would you know, embrace that position if you know, if

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Speaker 4: he chooses to stay and can continue the career, a

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Speaker 4: lot of money to pass away.

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Speaker 1: We got a ways to go on that one. Let's

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Speaker 1: take a break and then I'm gonna dive more into

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Speaker 1: the matchup. Jets Fans clear the runway be at Medalife

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Speaker 1: you touched upon it before this unique Ravens run game.

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Speaker 1: What do the Jets have to do? I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: The performance against the Patriots is quite good. They had

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Speaker 1: twenty five carries for sixty seven yards. But this is

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Speaker 1: a different animal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a totally different beast.

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Speaker 3: You talk about the most explosive core back arguably in

494
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Speaker 3: the history of this game.

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Speaker 2: But he's added the ability to buy time.

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Speaker 3: When he chooses to to throw the ball down the field,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to have tremendous eyes. Mark Andrews, I

498
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Speaker 3: think is playing some of the best football he's played

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Speaker 3: in years. Isaiah likely is a guy that you don't

500
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Speaker 3: think about, but he can get matched up on your

501
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Speaker 3: backup safety and he can do work right, So then

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Speaker 3: you do do all that, then you deal with the

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Speaker 3: physicality of now with Ricard being back, what that brings

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Speaker 3: to the table.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's so unique.

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Speaker 3: You won't face another team like this that can put

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Speaker 3: out a two hundred and fifty pounds tail back and

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Speaker 3: a three hundred and five pound full back. But that

509
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Speaker 3: fullback doesn't always line up as fullback. He can line

510
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Speaker 3: up as tight end. And now you have extra extra

511
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Speaker 3: tackle in but the personnel doesn't suggest that. So you

512
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Speaker 3: can go double double like bald he's talking about where

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Speaker 3: you got a double team and a double team. And

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Speaker 3: if you don't know, if you allow Derek Hemry to

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Speaker 3: get his feet going and he gets his fourth step,

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Speaker 3: I forgot who I think it was Mike Ray who said,

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Speaker 3: if you allow Derek carry to get his fourth step,

518
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Speaker 3: good written right, And it's gonna be incumbent that these

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Speaker 3: linebackers play downhill.

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Speaker 2: But when you play downhill, that's.

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Speaker 3: When Mark Andrews and likely get behind the linebackers and

522
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Speaker 3: you have these wide open gaps because you know you're

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Speaker 3: so tied in on running the ball mean stopping the run.

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Speaker 3: So if the Jets he'll stop the run, then it

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Speaker 3: takes away some of that play action away from the Jets,

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Speaker 3: I mean from the Ravens. And they have a chance,

527
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Speaker 3: but it can get it can get ugly if you

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Speaker 3: don't match the physical physicality of the Ravens, if they

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Speaker 3: feel like they can just bully ball.

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Speaker 1: You, Baldy, what have you seen from Lamar in terms

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Speaker 1: of his legs coming back from the hamstring entry.

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Speaker 5: Uh, he's favoring his left leg. I mean he's favoring it,

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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's just but I mean he still has

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Speaker 4: a burst, right He's not running nearly as much. He

536
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Speaker 4: hasn't really run much like much all year, but he

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Speaker 4: But I saw a play the other day. I put

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Speaker 4: it on the the video EA where Miles Garrett's coming like,

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's just turned the corner. He's coming like

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Speaker 4: a locomotive and Lamar knows it. And but he's still

541
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Speaker 4: you know, hit the gas pedal and you know, ran

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Speaker 4: away and kept his eyes down the field, hit a

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Speaker 4: flowers I believe you know, for throw he can still escape.

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Speaker 4: He's not looking to run right now. If if you're

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Speaker 4: a man coverage and you guys are turning running down

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Speaker 4: the field.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's he's not doing that the way he

548
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Speaker 5: used to when he would.

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Speaker 4: Run four thousand yards, So he's I think he's a

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Speaker 4: little cautious, but he's still deadly accurate. You know, he's

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Speaker 4: still throwing a lot of touchdowns, and honestly, he sees

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Speaker 4: the whole field as good as anybody in this whole business.

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Speaker 4: Like if if he's on his scramble and his eyes

554
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Speaker 4: are up like and you're open, or he'll throw you

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Speaker 4: open if you're not open like his his ability to

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Speaker 4: find plays beyond the x's and o's is as good

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Speaker 4: as anyone in this business.

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Speaker 1: Bart, how do you navigate that? This week against Lamar

559
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Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson for the first time his career consecutive games

560
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Speaker 1: with the sack, and he's been on fire in terms

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Speaker 1: of prussures. I think thirteen pressures the last two weeks.

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Speaker 1: The Jets got to Drake May just one time. How

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Speaker 1: do you balance as far as hey, we want to

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Speaker 1: keep him in the pocket and make sure he doesn't

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Speaker 1: break contain and also we want to heat him up

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Speaker 1: at times, but you don't want to leave your secondary

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Speaker 1: with these dudes running free, whether it be a Zay

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Speaker 1: Jones or you mentioned the tight ends before Andrews coming.

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Speaker 3: On, he got like DeAndre DeAndre Hopkins still can make

570
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Speaker 3: a couple of big plays, contested back shoulder plays. I

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Speaker 3: think Lamar trusts him. Then you know one you you

572
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Speaker 3: have to have your plaster rules down. But you know,

573
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Speaker 3: as as you know a you have to rush as

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Speaker 3: a unit. You can't go outlaw. You can't get up

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Speaker 3: the field too far because Lamar used that and he'll

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Speaker 3: escape or he'll buy time. He'll see that, and like

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Speaker 3: it can be so frustrating. It's like going against Michael Vick.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you may have to cover for eight seconds, but

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Speaker 3: if you want to make him throw it from a whale,

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Speaker 3: you don't want to present opportun tunities for him to

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Speaker 3: run up there. That's why a lot of times, you know,

582
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Speaker 3: they would you cross the inside guys to create the

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Speaker 3: windows to close, and you can have the guys on

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Speaker 3: the outside not get past quarterback depth. And you tell

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Speaker 3: the guys that hey, we're gonna we're gonna stir the

586
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Speaker 3: pocket and our stunts are gonna come from the inside,

587
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Speaker 3: but we cannot, uh not have edges.

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Speaker 2: For him because he can circle the defense.

589
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Speaker 3: If he circles the defense, now that linebacker has to

590
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Speaker 3: decide do I step up to stop him or do

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Speaker 3: I stay back and get tremendous depth and just give

592
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Speaker 3: up the yards because to Baldy's point, when you just

593
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: when you put those linebackers or those safeties in those positions,

594
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Speaker 3: he's so accurate that he'll draw you in and throw

595
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Speaker 3: the ball behind your head. Then you say, okay, well

596
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay deep, and then he'll do that and

597
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Speaker 3: they'll run for twenty five yards so quick and step

598
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Speaker 3: out of bounds, and you like, man, what am I doing?

599
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Speaker 3: And you know you don't want to have to keep

600
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Speaker 3: having to rush this guy for five to six seconds

601
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Speaker 3: and sit in your stands. You know, I don't know

602
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Speaker 3: if the Jets have the rotation of depth to keep

603
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Speaker 3: up if you go on these eight to nine play

604
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Speaker 3: drives with LaMarsh scrambling around to throw not the pass

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Speaker 3: I mean to throw, not to run.

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Speaker 1: Right Baldi, what do you make of Quincy Williams the

607
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Speaker 1: way he's come back after returning a lineup, I mean,

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Speaker 1: following the Cincinnati game. You know, he took everything at stride,

609
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Speaker 1: put his head down. He's been so professional. Man, He's

610
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Speaker 1: so explosive from the linebacker position instinct of and he's

611
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Speaker 1: been really reading it well lately.

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Speaker 4: Well, they need them, you know, you need your linebackers

613
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Speaker 4: because you've got to be able to clean things up

614
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Speaker 4: in his game, Like you can't let Henry get the

615
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Speaker 4: runway going. You know, you've got to be fast to

616
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Speaker 4: the you know, you this is not the most athletic

617
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Speaker 4: offensive line, so your angles and speed to the ball

618
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Speaker 4: is critical, especially when they're running their misdirection stuff and

619
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Speaker 4: some of the power stuff, Like you got to beat

620
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Speaker 4: these guys to the spot. And Quincy has that, he

621
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Speaker 4: has that feel, has that feel, he has that speed

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Speaker 4: to the ball. It's critical to not let these guys

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Speaker 4: get runways, allies, and I feel like he can be

624
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Speaker 4: really disruptive in that. And then you know, he's always

625
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Speaker 4: been a good blitzer. He's always been a guy that

626
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Speaker 4: can attack the line of scrimmage. She's he times it

627
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Speaker 4: really well and there'll be a moment, you know, when they'll.

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Speaker 5: Dive out dial that up.

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Speaker 4: But I just think you need vacuum cleaners out there

630
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Speaker 4: just making you know, just cleaning these things up and

631
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Speaker 4: not letting these four yard plays go for you know,

632
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Speaker 4: fourteen or twenty yards and he has that ability to

633
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Speaker 4: take that angle and get guys off their feet.

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Speaker 1: Part, what have you seen from him on film? I

635
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Speaker 1: give you a couple of plays this week where he's

636
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Speaker 1: just been on it.

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Speaker 3: You know where he's had great eyes, right we talk

638
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Speaker 3: about you know, the past to Henry to the flats,

639
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Speaker 3: you know, coming off a double pool, you know, from

640
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Speaker 3: near eye to far eye with the fullback trying to

641
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Speaker 3: grab the linebacker's eyes and then for the tight ends

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Speaker 3: right now to block, block, block, block and then take

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Speaker 3: off him having them in man coverage. Just having great

644
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Speaker 3: eyes and great awareness in the great feel for kind

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Speaker 3: of what offenses are trying to do. You're gonna get

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Speaker 3: a lot of that with Baltimore. You're gonna you know,

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Speaker 3: and remember the inside linebackers are like him, are playing

648
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Speaker 3: it from inside out.

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Speaker 2: I mean that they're they're lying out over the guard.

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Speaker 3: But the man that you're responsible for in pass covers

651
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Speaker 3: is two bodies away from you, so he's already had

652
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Speaker 3: you out flaking. But his tremendous speed to be able

653
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Speaker 3: to you know, run down guys and close the distance

654
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: is what you really love about him his ability to

655
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: cover ground, because that's really what you're gonna have to do,

656
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: especially with these new big tackles that they have. They're

657
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: not great as far as pass rushing from the inside,

658
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: but what they are is bodies that can eat up space,

659
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: which allows the smaller linebackers of the Jets to be

660
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: able to scrape. And you want to make sure that

661
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: you know, you make the ball bounce and go lotterly

662
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: and not come downhill at them and then allow you

663
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Speaker 3: to make tackles with angles. You got a rally to

664
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Speaker 3: the ball.

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Speaker 1: Offense, Remember what are the Jets that go ahead?

666
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Speaker 3: I mean remember also Derrick Henry early in the year

667
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 3: had problems fumbling right fighting for extra yards. You can

668
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 3: get back in his head and get opportunities to get

669
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Speaker 3: the ball on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Jets need takeaways in the worst way. Offense will What

671
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: do you got to do with a guy like Kyle Hamilton.

672
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: We were talking about it before we start a taping.

673
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: They're using them everywhere.

674
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: Baldy, Well, you have to identify him, you know, because

675
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 4: he's always moving and he's in a different spot almost

676
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: every play. So but you have to account for him,

677
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 4: you know, especially when he's at the line of scrimmage.

678
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 4: He will match up on Mason Taylor at times, you know,

679
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: in certain situations. But you have to almost like the

680
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 4: center is the quarterback is calling out the mic roquan

681
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: in this case number zero. But like you also have

682
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 4: to identify pre snap Kyle Hamilton because he's just so

683
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: disruptive in the way that they use him. I mean

684
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: he's literally it's positionless football when you watch Kyle play,

685
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: and so like he will disrupt your play if you

686
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 4: don't account for him and know whether it's the twist

687
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 4: stunts or you know, whether it's coming off the edge

688
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: like he and he's tall, so he gets his hands up,

689
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 4: he bats the balls down. You know, He's just a tall,

690
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: rangy athletic guy that they.

691
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: Use in a variety of Oh yeah, he's a stressed

692
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: he's a stretched out palomolo.

693
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Speaker 2: Right sometimes his his responsibilities.

694
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: He has no responsibility and they just allowed him to

695
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: be a football player.

696
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: And do what he has to do.

697
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: You know what I would really do early on if

698
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: he comes off on one of these blitzes, you cut

699
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: him because he's a big guy and he's he he

700
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: trusts that nobody's going to because I'm a little guy,

701
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: or or perceived as a little guy. Nobody's gonna cut me.

702
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 3: You cut them legs out. He has, he has decisions

703
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: to make when he comes at you. He won't come

704
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: as fast because he knows he could get cut in

705
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: DB's and stuff.

706
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: Aren't used to big balling and you're shooting.

707
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: When somebody's cutting you to you'll punch the head and

708
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: punch the shoulder. You know, they kind of stop and

709
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: stand straight legging and put their hands down. You know,

710
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: when you're a defense we're talked to put our hands

711
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: out and then put it down. Punch the head, punch

712
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: the shoulder. To keep the guys from taking you out.

713
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: I'll cut the hell out of him. That's what I'll

714
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: do when he come up there. See how he likes.

715
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: See how because none of these guys were a thigh

716
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: pass them. Go cut him and chip him with that

717
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: elbow right on that thigh board. See if you how

718
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: bad he or he wont to blitz.

719
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Speaker 1: There's some old school football for you all week long.

720
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: You know in Baltimore they're circling twenty What does angstrand

721
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: have to do to make sure that you're getting haul

722
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: of football in positive spots. You know, we talked about

723
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: the line before, but they're gonna be selling out against

724
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: them run here.

725
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all right.

726
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 4: You know, if you're selling out against the run, that

727
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 4: you can lead to big plays. You can't be you know,

728
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 4: you can't be deterred because you have a negative run

729
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: or you've run for two yards. Like when they're gambling

730
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 4: and they're selling out like that, it leads to big runs.

731
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: You know, somebody's gonna be out of the gap and

732
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: there's not the next layer to take care of things

733
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: if you block it up right, Like look that that

734
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 4: opening drive against the Patriots against a very good defense

735
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: and the number one run defensive football, Like that was

736
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 4: a great drive, like you liked, Okay that I'm sure

737
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 4: they you know, that was all you know, scripted on

738
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 4: Friday and Saturday and walk through and that's why they

739
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 4: executed so well. Like I would put that that drive

740
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 4: up for everybody in the building to see and you go,

741
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 4: this is what we could do to the same team,

742
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 4: to a team like Baltimore. It takes the crowd out

743
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 4: of it. It takes lamar off the field. Like if

744
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 4: you could put two or three of the drives like

745
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: that together in this game, you're gonna be in the

746
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: game in the fourth quarter.

747
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, bartlet's on and there. I think the Jets are

748
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 1: totally growing. Like Bald you just mentioned earlier in the year,

749
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: we see these games getting away from them, you know,

750
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys game stands out. Now you're playing against

751
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots in one possession game. There's no moral victories.

752
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: Not saying that, but the Jets are playing a better

753
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: brand of football right now. They've become a more disciplined team.

754
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: They've become a tougher out and offensively, I've been really

755
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: encouraged by you guys talk about the line and running

756
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: the football. And I mentioned in Breeze is that teams

757
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: been loading the box against them and they've still had

758
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: an ability to run. Now, if they can just pick

759
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: up the pass a little bit, provide some more in

760
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: the game, like we talked about earlier on, you might

761
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: have something here this week.

762
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 3: Well, they're getting comfortable in the system, right, and they're

763
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: being able to get experience with each other so that

764
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: packages can grow, right. Packages that maybe had one or

765
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: two plays now have four or five, and they have

766
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: looks off of the other packages and looks off the

767
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: looks and that just comes with time and being inside

768
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: of a system and understanding, you know, having collective experiences. Well,

769
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: we did this, and this is what happened to us.

770
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: Like if this happens, everybody learned from what happened in

771
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: this situation. If this happens, you do this right, and

772
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: you know, we'll see what type of experience they have

773
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: with Tyrod, you know, with being in situations. I tell

774
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: people all the time, a veteran's not a veteran because

775
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: he doesn't he hasn't made mistakes. He's a veteran because

776
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: he's made the mistakes and he's grown from him not

777
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: to make the same mistakes because he knows what to

778
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: do in those situations. So what they're getting doing is

779
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 3: they're getting experience in their packages. You know, I was

780
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 3: with Rex my entire career, but it didn't start off

781
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 3: the way that people saw it. We had packages, we

782
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: got beat by certain things, other coaches had counters, and

783
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 3: we're able to grow the package because we just had

784
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 3: collective experiences that we can create. We can say, hey, man,

785
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: we did this in this game. Remember back in the day,

786
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: this happened let's just go back to this and it

787
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: may not even be in the game plan. We can

788
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: bring stuff that wasn't in the game plan, but it

789
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: could be you know, you know good for what was

790
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: going on with us, and we can throw it in

791
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 3: and we can understand. Because when you're great on offense

792
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: and defense, you don't know systems or plays.

793
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: You understand concepts.

794
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 3: Right, Rex could create a fire zone, and we knew

795
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: that if you were the widest guy on the fire zone,

796
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 3: you're seen flat. If you're in the middle of the

797
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: fire zone, whether you're D linemen, linebacker or insert safety

798
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: your three receiver hook and you know you're seeing flat.

799
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: It didn't matter. So he can create it if we

800
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: identify that man. It seems like they run into this

801
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 3: particular player every time. Okay player fire zone and it

802
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 3: don't matter however you end up in it with the formation.

803
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: Whether it's closed left or close right, it's a fire zone.

804
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 3: Oh ain't nobody else out of me. I must be

805
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 3: the same flat guy. And that's how you create. So

806
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 3: that's what it is. When the whole idea of organized

807
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: chaos is that what's your plan? The plan is I

808
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: don't have a plan.

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Speaker 1: Well, The plan next week is for us to be back,

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Speaker 1: maybe earlier next week, for who Knows, A special a

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Speaker 1: special Thanksgiving podcast. Thanks Polus,