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Speaker 1: and you can listen to what you missed this. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I was reading today an extensive story in the New

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Speaker 1: York Times about the extreme sexual abuse against thousands of

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Speaker 1: children and teenagers here in La County from nineteen fifteen

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Speaker 1: awful to read. People have really suffered. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who they were hiring to work in the juvenile halls

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Speaker 1: and who they were hiring in these foster homes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all kinds of sick sexual predators for decades, decades. How

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Speaker 1: did they all know to get jobs doing this? Nothing

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Speaker 1: going to get a total of four billion dollars from

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Speaker 1: back until the year twenty fifty one. Yeah, annual payments

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Speaker 1: going to talk with an attorney for some of the plaintiffs,

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Speaker 1: Patrick McNicholas, who represents more than twelve hundred victims. This

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Speaker 1: is an astonishing story. Patrick, welcome, How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm just fine. Thank you, and John, thank you for

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Speaker 2: your interest in the story. It's important.

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Speaker 1: The sexual and physical and emotional abuse that some of

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Speaker 1: them were so small. How is it that this could

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Speaker 1: go on in such a widespread manner and nobody talked

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it's the problem that we've seen

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Speaker 2: repeated throughout the country and all over the world. Actually, well,

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Speaker 2: you have an epidemic of sexual abuse of children, and

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Speaker 2: in this particular instance, it's a complete failure of government.

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Speaker 2: It's a lack of oversight, it's a lack of procedures

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Speaker 1: There was no screening process to keep people out, and

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Speaker 1: then these sexual attacks happened, these rapes happened, there was

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was on anybody's radar, to be

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Speaker 2: quite honest, John, I think that they're focused on different things.

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Speaker 2: But you've seen this in other institutions, from Penn State

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Speaker 2: to the church, to the Boy Scouts. So the Ellie

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Speaker 2: County government didn't invent it, but they certainly did nothing

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Speaker 1: This is one of these situations, and we've covered this

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Speaker 2: Well, when you have this type of conduct, you have

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Speaker 1: Explain to people how it is that crimes that might

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Speaker 2: It didn't just get waived. There was legislation that was

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Speaker 1: But most people were having trouble stomaching the idea that

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem there's any protection for innocent taxpayers.

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Speaker 1: None of us had anything to do with this.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's correct, and also, you know, it's a rational

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Speaker 2: the matter is, over the long haul, this will save

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Speaker 2: and we spent about a year and a half John

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Speaker 2: negotiating this resolution. Specifically, one of the goals in mind

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Speaker 2: to protect the taxpayers to the extent that we were able.

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Speaker 2: We had to keep the County of La out of bankruptcy,

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Speaker 2: So over the long haul, you look at it as

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Speaker 2: absolute best they could. It's not a perfect resolution, but

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Speaker 2: for all involved, it was the best option and available.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is going to take money away from you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think so to the extent that you think

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Speaker 2: this was acrimonious, it was emotional, and it was a

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Speaker 2: they weren't going to feel it. So I think that

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Speaker 2: everything will remain intact. I don't think they're going to

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Speaker 2: was a balancing act and it's the best we could do.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we know the names the perpetrators? Since we

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Speaker 1: have to pay four billion dollars in settlements, shouldn't we

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Speaker 1: know the names of every employee living and dead, and

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Speaker 1: what they were accused of, because obviously the names are

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Speaker 2: Right, so those names are known. There's going to be

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Speaker 2: been destroyed. So to the extent that we are able,

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Speaker 2: we're finding those in discovery from the county, and further,

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Speaker 2: we're getting the names of as many of those perpetrators

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Speaker 1: But every time somebody reported, you know, whether it was

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Speaker 1: the county ever do anything about it? It just seems

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Speaker 1: if you've wracked up seven thousand victims here in this

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Speaker 1: one lawsuit, did everybody always turn away and tell the kid, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're making it up, you're lying, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So, first of all, you can see that this pattern repeats,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I remember when you were reporting on

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Speaker 2: this instance, it was even worse because you're talking about

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Speaker 1: Well, we will get the names though of these people.

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Speaker 2: Well some of them on filed right now. You can

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they should be reported in the news

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you for coming on, Patrick McNicholas,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. All right, And Patrick McNicholas is

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Speaker 1: one of the attorneys representing twelve hundred of the victims

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Speaker 1: out of the seven thousand that are going to share

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Speaker 1: four billion dollars in this sex abuse settlement for La

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Speaker 1: five thousand. Well, we were just talking with Patrick McNicholas

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Speaker 1: because he helped negotiated negotiate a settlement with LA County

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Speaker 1: on behalf of well total of seven thousand victims roughly

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Speaker 1: of child sex abuse, rape sexual attacks in the juvenile

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Speaker 1: Patrick McNicholas represented twelve hundred victims. And this is going

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Speaker 1: to be four billion dollars and the county is going

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Speaker 1: to be paying this off for the next twenty six years,

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Speaker 1: cut some county departments. I cannot believe. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: have a list here of all the the archdiocese. It

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Speaker 1: was a billion and a half dollars. Here in La

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Speaker 1: boy Scouts paid two and a half billion dollars. You know,

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Speaker 1: that was not the good old days years ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you had grown adults, all this sexual activity involving children,

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Speaker 1: Something was peculiar because so many people in that generation

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Speaker 1: You know, Brown University, which is one of the Ivy

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Speaker 1: Because they're caught. That's why everybody's screaming in Washington about

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Speaker 4: I'm really sick and tired of paying all these things,

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Speaker 1: Deborah's three o'clock News. John is the president of Howard

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Taxpayers Association, And I figured you'd like this, Deborah,

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Speaker 1: because you're always tracking all the surcharges you get.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you pay them more because I'm not getting

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Speaker 1: to start a fight in public. And that's what they use.

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Speaker 1: They leverage you're a person's natural reluctance to start a

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Speaker 1: ruckus in public, especially if they out to dinner and

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Speaker 1: they're out with friends or family.

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Speaker 4: Well that's the thing, right, we were out with friends.

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Speaker 4: Do you really want to make a big to do

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Speaker 4: about it?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what I would tell I would probably

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Speaker 1: go up to the manager afterwards quietly and say, I'm

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Speaker 1: not coming here as long as you had that surcharge

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Speaker 1: you got me this time because I don't want to

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Speaker 1: make a ruckus, but forget it, we're not coming back.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good point, and tell them or

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Speaker 1: call them up.

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Speaker 4: But the restaurant was packed. And the other restaurant that

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Speaker 4: you and I have talked about that actually got rid

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Speaker 4: of that. Well, my husband actually did say something the

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Speaker 4: very first time we noticed it. It was way more

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Speaker 4: than four percent, and they didn't care. And so my

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Speaker 4: husband's anyway, that doesn't matter, but he kind of got

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Speaker 4: into it, and they don't care because because there's a

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Speaker 4: fact and they and they have a few.

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Speaker 1: Of those restaurant and it's only four percent, and that's well,

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Speaker 1: you see, then let them pay. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: pay those because you don't need any particular restaurant in

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Speaker 1: your life, and if they're going to abuse the uh,

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Speaker 1: the customer relationship, then I'm just not going there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I went into that restaurant one day thinking it was

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Speaker 1: gone and it wasn't. And I walked in, looked at

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Speaker 1: the menu, saw that charge was still there, and I

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Speaker 1: walked right out the back door.

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Speaker 4: Right, And you know what, it's not that you can't

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Speaker 4: afford it. It's just not right. It's not right if

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Speaker 4: you I mean to sit there and say, okay, you

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Speaker 4: need to pay to help my employees with whatever, you

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Speaker 4: need to pay them more? Yeah, why are we I

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Speaker 4: have to pay for my own health insurance. I have

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Speaker 4: to pay for my own everything. I've paid my kids college,

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Speaker 4: I've done all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: This is all about being emotionally manipulative. All the great

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Speaker 1: left wing causes involves somehow shaming people, manipulating them. Oh

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Speaker 1: you don't care, you're not empty.

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Speaker 4: It's the same thing with that proposition that was on

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Speaker 4: the balllet to help the homeless? Right, So if you don't,

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Speaker 4: what do you mean? You come on, you could afford

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Speaker 4: four percent? Don't you want to help these people back

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Speaker 4: back there?

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Speaker 1: They're no, I don't. I just wanted to cook my

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Speaker 1: food and serve them.

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Speaker 4: It's not I mean, it's why is it my Why

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Speaker 4: is it up.

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Speaker 1: To me to do that? Here's a career idea. Don't

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Speaker 1: be a waitress, don't work as a cook, Go and

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Speaker 1: get a college degree in an industry that pays more money,

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Speaker 1: or it's not up to me to help.

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Speaker 4: Here's the other thing, John, that a restaurant should do.

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Speaker 4: Raise your French fries or whatever it is by twenty

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Speaker 4: cents and then and then don't write, don't ask your

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Speaker 4: customers to pay for your employees' healthcare or whatever it is,

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Speaker 4: and then just raise your price is twenty cents or

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Speaker 4: a dollar, nobody will know.

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Speaker 1: And you could choose not to buy the French fries.

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Speaker 1: Like now I've stopped buying the restaurant prices are so high.

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Speaker 1: It's like I skip the salad, right, I skip the dessert,

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Speaker 1: I skip the second glass of wine. You just pick

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Speaker 1: something you're gonna skip. But that's the way to keep

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Speaker 1: the prices down, right, or those we're so outrageous, But.

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Speaker 4: Or people, what they're going to do is they're going

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Speaker 4: to leave a smaller tip and then get to And

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Speaker 4: my husband has done that as well. And then I

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Speaker 4: feel bad because most of the time the weight staff

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Speaker 4: was great, and I feel bad about that.

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Speaker 1: That's their problems. You came there to get a fairly

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Speaker 1: priced meal, right, I mean, come on, you're not there

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Speaker 1: to be a union negotiator for them, you know. I

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Speaker 1: don't worry about them. They can always choose another career

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Speaker 1: if it's not working out.

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Speaker 4: But I don't want to feel emotionally manipulated either.

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Speaker 1: Well it gets me mad. Any any business that emotion

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Speaker 1: manipulates me, I don't want to go when we come back,

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Speaker 1: John Coopaul present, Well, here's another thing that's coming in

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Speaker 1: the mail. Menacing letters from the City of Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: Housing Department, not to be confused with the Homeless Housing,

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Speaker 1: demanding that you pay thirty one dollars in five cents

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Speaker 1: a special fee or explain why you shouldn't have to.

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Speaker 1: And it has something to do with rent control, Like

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Speaker 1: you know there are homes under rent control, and if

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Speaker 1: they send you a thirty one dollars fee, you have

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Speaker 1: to explain why your home isn't under rent control something

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Speaker 1: like that. I don't particular, I don't completely understand this.

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Speaker 1: But that's why John Coupaul is coming on, because a

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Speaker 1: lot of our listeners in LA are getting or will

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Speaker 1: be getting these letters, and we are here to explain

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Speaker 1: the world for you. Uh oh, And if you have

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Speaker 1: to rely on me or me, okay, but it's all

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Speaker 1: you got right. No one else is even trying Debor

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