1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Second hour of The Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Everybody's going on right now. We've got 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: coming up bottom of the hour, our friend Steve Hilton 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: from Fox News were talking to us about what it 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: means for the people of Great Britain and the world 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: that you don't have the passing of Queen Elizabeth the 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Second and a lot of discussion about both her legacy 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: and now the future for Britain and with it Western 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: civilization us here in America. So we'll be discussing that. 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: I want to take a moment though, to go through 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: some of the stories in the world of justice, or 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: the lack thereof, as it may be. As you know, 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: there's been an arrest made of Steve Bannon. We'll get 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: to that in a second here. I just think that 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: this is a reminder to everybody that while our side, 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: meaning Republicans concern peratives, often get lectures from those who 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: are allegedly on our side about fair play, the Left 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: goes out there and settle scores. They go out that 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it takes them years, doesn't matter what 21 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: abuse of power, they have to engage, and they will 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: go after people who upset them years after they're no 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: longer even in power. Will address the Bannon issue here 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: coming up. But first off, something that we don't hear 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: much about, and I've I've treated about this a few times, Clay. 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: It's always interesting to see the responses from people, which 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: are usually oh, yeah, that's right. That whole thing the 28 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: leak of the DAB Supreme Court opinion which created our 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: real first of all, a huge break in Supreme Court protocol. 30 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: It's one of the only institutions of government that has 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: been able to for a long time, count on some 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: degree of internal secrecy, and at least secrecy until the 33 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: opinions are made public. We still don't know who leaked 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: the Dab's report. This is interesting because there aren't that 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: many suspects in this one. Justice Neil Gorsitch recently said 36 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: he hopes the Supreme Court Committee report on this will 37 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: be coming out soon. And I mean, I just want 38 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: to I want to go you like to make predictions. 39 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to name the leaker. I 40 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: think they're going to say that there were a number 41 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: of people that had access to I don't. I don't 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: believe they're going to come out and even and even 43 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: give us one person as the leaker if they were 44 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: to do so, though, So this is my my sub prediction. 45 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Underneath this, Oh, we will find that it is a 46 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: leftist clerk who works for sodomyor that is my prediction. 47 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: And beyond that, if one person is named for this, 48 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: and by the way, any anyone who works for sodomyors 49 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: a leftist, So that's not I mean, that's this is 50 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: repetition the person who leaked the Supreme Court opinion. If 51 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: that person is either outed by the report or comes forward, 52 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: which is also a possibility, that individual will end up 53 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: with book deals, with praise, with nothing but celebration for 54 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: the left because it didn't obviously change the outcome here, 55 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: but showing a willingness to break norms when democrats really 56 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: want something that is to be encouraged. As far as 57 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: the leftists are concerned, they're going to give somebody a 58 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: high five for that. They don't care about the institutions 59 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 1: of government. Yeah, whoever leaked it will become a multi millionaire. 60 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: They will get a book deal, they will get a 61 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: television relationship with MSNBC, maybe not CNN since they seem 62 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: to be going somewhat sane of late, and they will 63 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: be universally held as a hero. And I'm glad you 64 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: brought this up because by and large, the media has 65 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: completely abandoned this story. But remember, the leaking of this 66 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: opinion directly led to an assassination attempt on Brett Kavanaugh, 67 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: which also is a completely buried story. Remember what was 68 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: going on here. They were trying to get this court 69 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: case changed the result in Dabbs, and they put a 70 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: target on every conservative justice in the majority for weeks, 71 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: if not months, before this opinion was officially released, to 72 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: the point where a man traveled all the way across 73 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: the country and showed up outside of Brett Kavanaugh's home 74 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: and tried to assassinate him to change the outcome of Dabbs, 75 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: something that we have never seen occur before. And I 76 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: just think we need to hammer this home. Can you 77 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: imagine what the media would have done if this had 78 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: been a Donald Trump supporter who had traveled to Sotomayor's 79 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: home to Justice Kagan's home and had been trying to 80 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: assassinate them to change the outcome of a case. It 81 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: would be directly connected to January sixth, it would be 82 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: a demand for more investigations of right wing extremism instead, 83 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: both the leak itself, which is truly unprecedented in the 84 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: annals of Supreme Court history, as well as the fact 85 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: that it provoked an assassination attempt on a justice to 86 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: try and change the outcome of a pending case, which 87 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: has never happened in the history of our nation so 88 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: far as I can remember. Where I'm talking about one 89 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: particular case motivating someone to try to kill a justice, 90 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: and it's like it never happened. So it's amazing. Yeah, 91 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: on the one hand, you have we all know that 92 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: this is going to be going in this general direction 93 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: of no consequences, doesn't really the left isn't upset by 94 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 1: They were really cheering it on in the early days. 95 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: The Democrats were thinking this might be an opportunity to 96 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: create the public pressure, and the media went along with 97 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: it too. They were actively trying to New York Times, 98 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: Washing Post, CNN. They were trying to reward the effort 99 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: behind the League to increase pressure on justices, and even 100 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: we all recall supporting for at least a while the 101 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: protests at the homes of justices which were explicitly illegal. 102 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: This is a violation of and anyone goes, well, what 103 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: about our First Amendment rights or whatever. People that are 104 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: idiots and have never actually read nor understood the First Amendment, 105 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: also known as left wing activists. They don't seem to understand. 106 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: If there's a prosecutor, let's say, in your hometown, and 107 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: you don't like that he's prosecuting somebody, and you camp 108 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: outside that prosecutor's home, that is intimidation of the judiciary 109 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: or in this case, intimidation of the prosecutorial branch. You're 110 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to threaten 111 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: people doing their jobs and because you don't like the 112 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: outcome of what it may be in the criminal justice system. 113 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: So that's on the one hand, and then you see 114 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: what they do here with Steve Bannon. Notice all of 115 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: the efforts to criminally prosecute everybody from the top down 116 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: of Trump Wall. I mean you, it's hard to honestly 117 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: keep track of how many different investigations Trump's taxes, Trump organization, Russia, collusion, ubstruction. 118 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: They're throwing all these things. They never actually have enough 119 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: for a prosecution. There should have been far more attention 120 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: paid to the fact that there was recently, and I 121 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: think it came from a Foyer request Bill Barr when 122 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: he was Attorney General, there was an internal DOJ opinion 123 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: where it lays out there was absolutely no basis to 124 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: bring a criminal charge against Donald Trump based on Russia 125 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: collusion obstruction. That was a fantasy of a remember the 126 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: ten possible counts of obstruction, total garbage. Okay, that was 127 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: the actual opinion from within the I believe the Office 128 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: of Legal Counsel OLC within the DOJ, which is where 129 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: they make those sorts of high level decisions and distinctions 130 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: of law. And then you get Steve Bannon out there, 131 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: who well, he's Look the thing of a Bannon is 132 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: he's a fighter and he's theatrical. Uh, And he says, well, 133 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: play cliff one. You can hear from him. I have 134 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: not yet be done to fight. You get Bannon ste 135 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: Clay saying, uh, they will not shut me up. I 136 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: have not yet begun to fight. And this is what 137 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: you see in the last days of a dying regime. 138 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: They will have to kill me to make me stop 139 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: speaking out on this stuff. You know, they they under 140 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: any normal circumstance, you would think that an individual like 141 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: Steve Bannon, after the President pardoned him on a previous 142 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: federal prosecution, to now use effectively an end roun on 143 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: double jeopardy. I know about the separation of power federal 144 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: and state, but it's it's it's a technicality to go 145 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: after somebody at the state level on a charge like this. 146 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: They're sending a message. This is what this is. They're 147 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: trying to tell their base we never forgive or forget 148 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: the crimes against humanity of the Trump administration. And also 149 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: you better not stand with Trump going forward or maybe 150 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, those eighty five thousand I R Ess 151 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: agents are gonna have to have a nice long look 152 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: at your taxes. Buck good history question for you here, 153 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: Steve Bannon, I have not yet begun to fight is 154 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: a famous quote by whom in American history, h John 155 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: Paul Jones. Yes, that is a super Buckster and Fuego today. 156 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: That is a super Nerd recollection. I'm very impressed that 157 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: the history Nerd bonafides on knowing John Paul Jones. I 158 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: wanted to look it up to make sure that I 159 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: got it right. I've not yet begun to fight. The 160 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: immortal retort just put me on the spot with a 161 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: few million listeners, by the way, but the buckster always delivers. 162 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: John Paul Jones was requested to surrender as they were 163 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: fighting with the British frigate off the northern coast of 164 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: England during the American Revolution. The response to his demand 165 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: that he surrender, I have not yet begun to fight 166 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: seventeen seventy nine. So Steve Bannon also a history nerd, 167 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: And look, all of this is a huge You know, 168 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: remember when Hillary said there was a vast right wing 169 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: conspiracy arry against her. I think she went on the 170 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: Today Show. You know early in the during the Clinton turn. 171 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: There is a massive left wing conspiracy to take down 172 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: anyone that is connected to Donald Trump at all in 173 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: an effort. This is this is what they know, in 174 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: an effort to keep Trump off of the ballot in 175 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four because they know that he is likely 176 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: to win and they are terrified. Now, I think there 177 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: are multiple Republicans who could win in twenty twenty four. 178 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: So I understand a lot of people are deeply committed 179 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: to Donald Trump. But I think the Republican bench is 180 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: very strong. But this is a sign of weakness and 181 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: terror on their part that is trying to manifest itself 182 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: as strength. That is where I think people need to 183 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: understand what's going on here. They are trying to bring 184 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: to bear all of these powerful elements of the government, 185 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: not because buck they are in a position of strength, 186 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: but because in reality they are incredibly weak. Well, I 187 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: think that the big question as we're talking about abuse 188 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: of the system, the process, the judiciary for partisan ends, 189 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: which Democrats do as a matter of course, they engage 190 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: in lawfare against their political opponents. The use of the 191 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: law as a tool of political warfare is a central 192 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: Democrat tactic and has been for a long time. I 193 00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: like to remind everybody see Senator Ted Stevens, see the 194 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: Scott Walker, John Doe investigations in Wisconsin, Christie Chris Christie Bridgegate, 195 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: Governor Perry in Texas when they were going to bring 196 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: a charge against him for some kind of obstructions. He's 197 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: gonna fire somebody, analysts, and then of course Trump with 198 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: Russia collusion. They do this all the time. I think 199 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: the one they're holding what they're holding back in reserve. 200 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: Now people ask me, are they going to prosecute Trump 201 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: over this morralague of nonsense. I get asked this every 202 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: day by people either friends of mine, and I keep 203 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: going back and forth with whether or not I think 204 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: it's likely. I don't think anybody knows. I think Clay 205 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: the Democrats are going back on forth, meaning the people 206 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: in charge of this, Merrick Garland and everyone else around him, 207 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: these deep state libs who would make such a decision. 208 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: I think they're going back and forth too, because it's 209 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: a clearly political play. I think they're holding it back 210 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: in reserve to see how do we think, meaning how 211 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: do they think it would play? If it's clear Trump 212 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: is going to be the nominee, and if it's clear 213 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: old man Biden is going to actually run for a 214 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: second time, which I believe it is that that is 215 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: going to happen. You and I think c I on 216 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: that one right now. It is likely they're going to 217 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: have Biden going for a second term, as reckless as 218 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: that is. Do they bring a charge against him of obstruction, 219 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: no matter how flimsy. You know, we mentioned the DJ memo. 220 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: They were like, guys, there's no basis for this. Okay, 221 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: we all know this, and internally in DJ, this wasn't 222 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: meant for public consumption, it wasn't a PR letter. They're like, yeah, no, 223 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: you can't bring it. This is this is trash on 224 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: the Russia collusion, obstruction of the Muller probe. Do you 225 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: think that maybe they're holding it back as bringing a 226 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: criminal charge against Trump, even on something as ridiculous as 227 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: obstruction relating to documents from the National Archives? Is the 228 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: Libs break the glass plan? It's the Oh my god, 229 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: we gotta do anything we can to stop this guy. 230 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: So let's just throw this at the wall and see 231 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: if it sticks. It wouldn't shock me. And what's fascinating 232 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: about that in twenty twenty three if they do it, 233 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: because I don't think they'll do it before now the midterms. 234 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: They've got the attention foisted onto Trump that they were 235 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: hoping to get. I wonder how much someone else benefits, 236 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: because I can see someone like DeSantis actually winning a 237 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: landslide election as the Republican nominee where they try to 238 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: take out Trump, but they actually strengthen the overall Republican 239 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: brand in the process. Because many people are furious about 240 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: what's going on with the attempt to take out Trump 241 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: and even moderates if Trump's not on the ballot, would say, yes, 242 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: Democrats are now the existential threats to democracy that they've 243 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: been claiming that Republicans are, which we'll talk about a 244 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: little bithen we come back, because I think that's a 245 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: I think that's a fascinating question to think as we 246 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: move forward into twenty twenty three, once we get through 247 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: the midterms and start to think about the primary for 248 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: twenty four. If you were listening late in our program yesterday, 249 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the program third Hour, you heard 250 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: the voice of Frank Siller, founder of Tunnel the Hours Foundation. 251 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: Dedication and leadership from one man leading a foundation to 252 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: care for so many families have fallen first responders and soldiers. 253 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: One of those fallen first responders Port Authority of New 254 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: York and New Jersey Police officer James Kennelly. He passed 255 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: away in twenty seventeen from nine to eleven related cancer 256 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: he developed from his search and recovery efforts at the 257 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: World Trade Center following the terror attacks. 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But before we get 277 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: to that, he's going to join us next. Talk about 278 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: the situation in England the death of Queen Elizabeth sources 279 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: close to buck Sexton, not buck Sexton himself necessarily maybe 280 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: I am, of course, a very serious journalist has reported 281 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: have reported to me, Buck that you were on an 282 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: airplane flight recently and a woman in an IN ninety 283 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: five mask who was sitting next to you said, are 284 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: you Buck Sexton? And your response was no, You denied 285 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: that you were yourself because a woman in an in 286 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: ninety five man ask asked you if you were Buck Sex. 287 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: I just want to have a pleasant flight. And I 288 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: think I said something like, oh no, I get that 289 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: all the time entirely because she had the N ninety 290 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: five yep. I saw. I saw ED ninety five mask, 291 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: and my initial reaction was, oh, I think I think 292 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: we gotta live. I mean, and that may have been incorrect, 293 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: but I just I didn't want to cause a scene. 294 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: And I see that ED ninety five mask. I'm like, 295 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, can I can? I trust this situation 296 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: is going to be pleasant? But uh did I did? 297 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: I deny being buck Sexton? Can either confirm nor deny you. 298 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: By the way, any of you listening, please come up 299 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: and chat with me any time. I love talking to 300 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: people listening to the show. But I wasn't sure about 301 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: that one. I saw that it was a tightly a 302 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: fixed N ninety five mass. Yeah, I can see why 303 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: you're a little bit nervous. Sometimes people say are you 304 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: Clay Travis? 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Help us out another 332 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: all time podcast download as we march rapidly towards twenty 333 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: million downloads a month, which is absolutely bonkers. We thank 334 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: you all for the support. There We bring in now 335 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: Steve Hilton, who does a fantastic show Next Revolution. Fortunate 336 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: enough to have been a guest on it a few times. 337 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: Also been out to dinner with him, which is a 338 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Dinner of twenty fifth anniversary of Fox News 339 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: last year, and Steve, you are I would say, was 340 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: it fair to say an expert on the Royal family 341 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: at least for purposes of this show, based on your 342 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: British background, but also you've done media in England for 343 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: a long time. You're now here, so first of all, 344 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. We're excited to have you. And second, 345 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: just kind of dive in for Americans out there that 346 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: are certainly seeing the outpouring for Queen Elizabeth as she 347 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: passed yesterday at ninety six years old. What does she 348 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: mean for England and will we ever see another figure 349 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: like her in our lives? Based on your knowledge of 350 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: the American and British political landscape, well, it's great to 351 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: be with you, Clay, thank you so much. I think 352 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: the way I'd put it is I may not be 353 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: an expert, but I'll do until the expert gets here, 354 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: I'll do my best. Look, as you mentioned, you know, 355 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: I'm originally from the UK. I've been here in America 356 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: ten years, got my citizenship last year. I feel a 357 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: proud American and someone who's actually not a supporter of 358 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: the monarchy. Even back in the day in England I 359 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: argued against the monarchy. I back in school, I would 360 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: participate in debates and argue for the abolition of the 361 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: movie Who's just getting the good Oh he cut out 362 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: for a second, Keep going, Steve. And my mom was 363 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 1: in fact upset about that. She was. My parents were 364 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: Hungarian immigrants, said, you can't go around criticizing the monarchy. 365 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: You'll get put in jail. They had the kind of 366 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: fear of the kind of communist regime kind of thing 367 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: going on there. So look, I'm not a supporter of 368 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: the monarchy, but yet I was incredibly moved yesterday, moved 369 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: to tears by this news. And I think that's why. 370 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: I think it's really a question of not just people's 371 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: appreciation of the monarchy as an institution, but Queen Elizabeth 372 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: as an individual and how she did that job. I 373 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: think to really get to the heart of why you 374 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: see this outpouring of grief and love and admiration and 375 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: respect in the UK, it's because people knew that she 376 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: had devoted her whole life to them, to the country. 377 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: She just put everything else on the back burner. It 378 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: was all about the country, this total sacrifice, self sacrifice, selflessness, 379 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: It was all about duty. People understood that, They understood 380 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: how hard that must have been for her to just 381 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: keep going with the dignity and grace despite all the 382 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: problems of the country or the problems in her family, 383 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: the scandals that gossip in her later decades. The intrusion 384 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: of the media has started off very deferential, ended up 385 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: incompletely the opposite Social media. Through it all, just this 386 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: incredible duty and dignity and an amazing charm, her beautiful smile. 387 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: You could see that even in that very last photo 388 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: of her last public duty, you know, just a couple 389 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: of days ago, three days ago, two days before she died, 390 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: she was still working ninety six doing her constitutional duty 391 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: inviting the new Prime Minister is Trust to form a government, 392 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: but with that amazing smile on her face. Boris Johnson 393 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: had a great tribute and he talked about the magic 394 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: that she spread around her kingdom, and I think that's 395 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: what it was about. It was her personal qualities. And 396 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: as we look ahead, I think it's going to be 397 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: very difficult for the new king, for King Charles, to 398 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: kind of maintain that love and loyalty, because unlike her, 399 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: he's you know, the great thing about her is that 400 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: she was able to be this incredible symbol of unity 401 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: for the country because she never expressed an opinion on 402 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: anything controversial. She never allowed herself to get dragged into 403 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: political debates or move with the times and embrace kind 404 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: of the kind of fashion for woke stuff. No, she 405 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: was her. She was just constant. He's been the exact opposite. 406 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's had a long time to prepare 407 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: for this job. He needed something to do, and he's 408 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: been working very hard and some of the things he's 409 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: done have been admirable. He started at an organization that 410 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: I know very well when I was working back in 411 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: the day in the UK government, work very closely with 412 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: the Prince's Trust, a youth organization he started which is 413 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: now the leading youth organization in the country, does fantastic 414 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: work helping kids in an urban era's disadvantage kids start 415 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: their own businesses. Very cool, really big impact. But he's 416 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: also weighed in on much more controversial topics, everything from 417 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: architecture to organic farming to the climate change, where he's 418 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: been really out there on climate change, you know, so 419 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: everyone knows what he thinks about all this stuff. He 420 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: just made his first address as the King. He said 421 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: that his role needs to change. I don't know. I 422 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: think it will be hard to really keep that institution going, 423 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: I think a debate will open up in the UK 424 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: about the future of the monarchy. That debate was absolutely 425 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: put on hold while the Queen was there because regardless 426 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: of people's views about the monarchy, everyone loved her and 427 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: didn't want to have that conversation. But I think that 428 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: will now start in the immediate days ahead, where people 429 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: will be still wanting to show their love and appreciation 430 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: for the queen. But in the months ahead, I think 431 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: you will start to see a questioning of the monarchy, 432 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: and Charles has got a lot of work on his 433 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: hands to try and keep that institution going. We're speaking 434 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: to Steve Hilton of the Next Revolution on Fox News. Steve, 435 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: it's bark. I just want to know if there was 436 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: any part of you that was surprised to see in 437 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: this country on the left, some of the blue checks 438 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: out there, some of the leftists who were just ferocious 439 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 1: and nasty in the immediate aftermath. I mean, just so 440 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: many tweets, so much all that, you know, the the queen, 441 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: as though she was running around the globe for decades 442 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: herself doing all the genocide and all these horrible things. 443 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: They were saying, why why do some people hate the 444 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: queen so much given that everyone seems to at least 445 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: recognize if they know anything about her, she's a kind 446 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: and decent person, of course, and it just it just 447 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: shows you with the with the with the kind of 448 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: the angry, kind of worked left brigade, the activists sort 449 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: than they're all the sad lives on Twitter, you know, 450 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: doing all this stuff that it's just this incredible combination 451 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: we've seen for years of ignorance and arrogance, you know, 452 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: total ignorance of actually how things work. Like as he said, 453 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: she's the head of state, not the head of government. 454 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: You can't hold her personally responsible for anything that happened, 455 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: whether you agree with it or disagree with it. That 456 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: wasn't her role. She didn't have a policy role or 457 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: any kind of governmental role. And the arrogance too, to 458 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: think that, you know, you can you can just take 459 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: anything that happened in history and judge it by the 460 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: standards of today, and not just any any standards, but 461 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: the extremist standards of the far left. If you do, 462 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: why do they hate Steve. I think it's because because 463 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: they they they like it's another opportunity for virtue signaling. 464 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: I think that's what it really is. It's our here 465 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: we go. We can we can yet again get out 466 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: there and show how committed we are in our activism. 467 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: And it's all about the finding racism absolutely everywhere, and 468 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: we can. The louder we yell, and the more angry 469 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: we are, the more violent despicable we are, the better 470 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: we look to the kind of tiny handful of activist 471 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: friends who hanging who are hanging around with us on Twitter. 472 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: I think it's that sad personal truth. I'm afraid about 473 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: these people's lives. Steve, you mentioned that this could lead 474 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: to the monarchy being in question, and then when you 475 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: were a kid, you questioned it. Prince Charles obviously not 476 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: very happy popular Prince William on, I guess King Charles 477 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: now Prince William is very popular. Is there any idea 478 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: how long Charles might want to be in sitting on 479 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: the throne and how quickly William might ascend? Obviously the 480 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: Queen waited until her death. Do we have any sense 481 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: whether Charles will do the same. Well, he's literally just 482 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: made that exact same pledge, like literally within the last 483 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: few minutes in his first address as king, he's repeated 484 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: her pledge. I mean She made this pledge when she 485 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: was very young and she said, you know, my whole life, 486 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: whether it be short or long, will be you know, 487 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: committed to your service. And he's just repeated that. So 488 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: I think that you know, he took you know, he's 489 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: waited a long time, and I don't think he's going 490 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: to give it up voluntarily. So I think we can 491 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: expect him to stay on the throne until until he dies. 492 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: But I mean the question is will there be a 493 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: debate opened up and so where you're right to say 494 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: that William and Kate together much more popular. But the 495 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: question is will the institution survived that long? I think 496 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: the two things if you want to see the monarchy survive, 497 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: and you know, I wouldn't want to mislead your listeners. 498 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: You know it's still a majority in the UK. Even 499 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: before this were for the monarchy was a sercisable minority. 500 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: I think, you know, thirty odd percent. I would say 501 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: would like to have seen the end of it while 502 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: she was alive. He didn't have that conversation. Now the 503 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: conversation will happen. I think that the two things that 504 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: he has going for him in trying to persuade people 505 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: that the monarchy should continue a one the fact that 506 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: that's what she would have wanted. I think people will think, look, 507 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: the best way to honor her life and legacy and 508 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: the love that we have for her is to support 509 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: the new king. And I think that will be a 510 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: very powerful emotion in the next in the immediate future. 511 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: But secondly, perhaps this isn't as familiar to an American audience. 512 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: I think Camilla actually has has become a real asset 513 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: to the new king. She was, of course hugely unpopular 514 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: when she was the kind of evil mistress in the 515 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: Diana saga. But over the years, as she's become a 516 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: public figure and then married Charles and has now been 517 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: by his side for for a long time, she's developed 518 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: real effect that the people have developed real affection for her. 519 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: In many ways, she kind of captures some of the 520 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: qualities of the queen that kind of varied down to 521 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: a practical britishners, get on with the job, that kind 522 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: of runs that motto that the queen had never complained, 523 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: never explain, just get on with your job, no drama, 524 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: keep calm and carry on that kind of vibe if 525 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: you like. I think Camilla does have that, and I 526 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: think she could be a real asset to Charles. Check 527 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: out Steve Hilton's show The Next Revolution on Fox News 528 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: this Sunday. Steve, appreciate you joining us. Come back soon, sir, 529 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: It was great to be with you all the best season. 530 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a normal day for business 531 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: owners anymore. So much has changed, starting with the day 532 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: to day management of staff, hiring and retaining top talent, 533 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: managing teams remotely, keeping up with changing regulations HR compliance. 534 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: The list goes on. 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They have issued 552 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: a statement Duke University has I want to read this 553 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: statement for you, Buck. You haven't seen this at all yet. 554 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: I want you to let me know whether this is 555 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: the perfect social justice virtue signaling zero basis in anything. 556 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: And this is like Kamala Harris if she were writing 557 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: a statement for Duke Athletics. The eighteen members of the 558 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: Duke University volleyball team are exceptionally strong women who represent themselves, 559 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: their families, and Duke University with the utmost integrity. We 560 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: unequivocally stand with and champion them, especially when their character 561 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: is called into question. Duke Athletics believes in respect, equality 562 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: and inclusiveness and we do not tolerate hate and bias. 563 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: Hashtag hate won't live here. So first of all, nobody 564 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: is attacking you. BYU is just pointing out that there 565 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: is zero evidence that what your university claimed occurred actually occurred. 566 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: So this is not calling anybody's character into question. In fact, 567 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: BYU built bent over backwards not to specifically name the 568 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: liars that are affiliated with your university. Now I'll call 569 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: their character into question. More importantly, I'll call Duke University's 570 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: character into question here because Duke Lacrosse, you guys had 571 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: no hesitation whatsoever to throw the entire Duke lacrosse team 572 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: under the bus, cancel the school, the school's lacrosse team, 573 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: fire the coach at accept without question what we're proven 574 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent lies. And here Buck, they're 575 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: doing the exact same thing, except they're choosing identity over 576 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: fact yet again, as if they didn't learn anything at 577 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: all from the Duke Lacrosse lies. In this gobbleygook statement 578 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: that they put out, which is effectively Kamala Harris word salad, 579 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: is an embarrassment to an elite university, and to me, 580 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: it shows that they are completely enthralled by identity politics 581 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: and all that matters is your identity. The facts are 582 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: completely without dispute here, but the person who is in 583 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: the wrong is a black woman, and so it couldn't 584 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: possibly be that she is wrong here. Fake allegations of 585 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: racism need to be punished. This is not something that 586 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: should be allowed to continue as just a social matter. 587 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm not saying necessarily. It depends on whether it's a 588 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: if it's criminal, right, So when people do a hate 589 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: crime hoax or they do a JUSTI Smallette situation, that 590 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: should be criminally punished. But there should be some sense 591 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: that it's deeply wrong. I mean some social understanding that 592 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: we have as a society that it's deeply wrong to 593 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: make allegations of racism to get attention, to raise awareness, 594 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: to feel important or powerful in the moment. This should 595 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: be something that people condemn. There shouldn't be. This is 596 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: the way that the system currently plays out with this clay. 597 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: Someone says racist thing happened, and the whole Democrat left 598 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: wing media apparatus because oh my gosh, we're such a 599 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: racist country. Donald Trump is at fault because you know, 600 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: they do the usual. We know, we know the whole playbook, 601 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: and they're all they all go along with it, and 602 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: then when it turns out to be a hoax, what happens? 603 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: You see, Uh, you know New York Times, page C seventeen, 604 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: three paragraphs down. Yeah, it turns out that thing didn't 605 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,959 Speaker 1: actually happen, and they just hope that no one really 606 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: pays attention and we all we all move on. There 607 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: should be embarrassment for media entities that go and report 608 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: on this without any basis. Yes, there should be embarrassing. 609 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: I mean, look, they can report on the allegation. But 610 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: notice how in some media and in some stories, obviously, 611 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: whenever it is of political benefit to the left, they'll 612 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: say so and so made a claim without evidence. They'll 613 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: put they'll insert that right, they'll do the without evidence, 614 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: and then they'll go on to tell you the rest 615 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: of the story. Well, this was effectively without evidence or 616 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: certainly without corroboration. It's an allegation. Obviously, the allegation itself, 617 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: you could say, is the first piece of evidence, but 618 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: with nothing else. With ongoing investigation, we will bring you 619 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: more facts. That should be the attitude of the news media. 620 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: But instead people like you and me to talk about this, well, 621 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: some of us get called right wing extremists, which I'm 622 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: still like, what do I have to do? I've never 623 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: been called a right wing extremist, and I say some 624 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: extreme right wing stuff. This is crazy. Yeah. Look, and 625 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: this to me is also part and parcel of the 626 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: universe that we have created. Because let's say that this 627 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 1: girl believes that she hurt it, right, she is living 628 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: with this idea of a racist boogeyman over her shoulder 629 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: because she has been inculcated at a school like Duke 630 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: into the idea that white people are super racist and 631 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: want to use racial slurs against her. So in her mind, 632 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: she's creating things that clearly did not happen. Psychologically, this 633 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: is the world that we are creating for so many people. 634 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: By the way, the next stage of this will likely be, 635 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: if she pursues any public continuation of this, that she's 636 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: now victimized by the people who are saying that this 637 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: was a hoax. Of course, that's the next what. You 638 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: always have to move from one stage of victimization with 639 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: these things to the next, because there's nothing more powerful 640 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: to the left than a victim who goes around bullying 641 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: other people. And inevitably don't do this, but there will 642 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: be a few people who send mean emails or make 643 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: mean phone calls to Duke, and they'll say, look, this 644 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 1: is what happens when you speak out a givest racism. 645 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: Racism rains down upon you. No liars get called out 646 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: when they don't acknowledge their lies. Don't spread racial hate, 647 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: but do hold people accountable for what they say. Sleet 648 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth 649 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: th