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Speaker 3: Topic of race, this is going to end up being
Speaker 3: good news you're going to be happy about. Okay, this
Speaker 3: is not a downer segment when I get to some
Speaker 3: statistics that back up what you think, what you what
Speaker 3: we think, what your neighbors think, as opposed to what
Speaker 3: you're being told every single day.
Speaker 2: But first of this, what are we about to hear? Katie?
Speaker 5: So this is from an YouTube podcast called so True,
Speaker 5: and it's Caleb Herron, who is a gay comedian and
Speaker 5: Nori Reid, who is queer, and I believe trams talking
Speaker 5: about their one of them.
Speaker 2: Is gay and one of them's queer. I don't I
Speaker 2: don't use the term queer.
Speaker 4: Refuse well, and I spank you verbally for using it.
Speaker 4: It's an all purpose term that just means I'm against
Speaker 4: the man man.
Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 6: My dad is white and I can't do anything about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing I can do.
Speaker 7: Sorry, I'm gonna cry because I can't do anything about that.
Speaker 2: I hate that you had to go through that.
Speaker 7: Thank you as somebody of white experience, I know how
Speaker 7: about it can.
Speaker 2: Be, but my mom is full on Asian thank you.
Speaker 7: That's when my dad died. I cheered because I said,
Speaker 7: that's one last white man. That's how progressive I am.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I like talk about ally. I said,
Speaker 7: get him out of here, get him out of here.
Speaker 7: I said, take him away, satan.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of how it works, right.
Speaker 6: It's like if one white person dies, then you say
Speaker 6: that like a person of color comes into the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a diverse story gets elevated. It's kind of like
Speaker 2: a spiritual experience.
Speaker 3: Here's the problem with everything in modern society. You play
Speaker 3: that for me ten years ago, I know they're jerking
Speaker 3: me around, that they're just saying that to be provocative.
Speaker 3: But now everything is so crazy that could be them
Speaker 3: saying that to jerk me around, or it could be
Speaker 3: one hundred percent what they believe.
Speaker 2: And I have no idea.
Speaker 4: I suspect it's sincere. Really, yes, oh yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: they I have been insane folder of stories ready to
Speaker 4: go about the so called DEI programs and universities and
Speaker 4: various corporations in the government and how utterly racist and
Speaker 4: twisted they are. Yeah, Katie, would you like to weigh
Speaker 4: in on the authenticity or sincerity of the two gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Well, it seemed quite sincere. And that's kind of the theme.
Speaker 5: Of this podcast is mega left progressive hitting all the
Speaker 5: talking points that the media salivates over.
Speaker 4: The fact that a philosophy that insane and insanely stupid
Speaker 4: would have any currency in the modern world is frightening
Speaker 4: to me. It is so post enlightenment, it is so
Speaker 4: post to you know, racial healing. It's ugly, it's obscene,
Speaker 4: and yet it has infected so many of our institutions.
Speaker 3: Well, I remember when in California, and this is probably
Speaker 3: ten fifteen years ago, white people were going to cease
Speaker 3: being the majority. They were still going to be the
Speaker 3: biggest group, but they weren't the majority. Of California and
Speaker 3: the line got crossed. There were more people that weren't
Speaker 3: white than were white for the first time ever. And
Speaker 3: the cheering and celebration about that, it's just so weird
Speaker 3: to me. Not that I cheer having more white people
Speaker 3: than Harvey, who's cheering percentage of of race.
Speaker 2: That's nuts.
Speaker 4: Folks who have been converted to the Church of Dei
Speaker 4: of Wochism before it was it was called that.
Speaker 3: I remember when I remember, I can remember, like I
Speaker 3: just there. I won't mention the name, but our newsman,
Speaker 3: Marsha Phillips did the story and another person who was
Speaker 3: a person of color on the show cheered, all right, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's like, why is that thrilling for you? That will
Speaker 3: be now less way? I mean, what do you think
Speaker 3: is going to happen because of that? I don't think
Speaker 3: they think about that much at all. They've just been
Speaker 3: recruited again into the cult of.
Speaker 4: Racial politics and that's been super successful through the years.
Speaker 4: But if you want to see how that works, go
Speaker 4: to the Middle East, go to you know, any of
Speaker 4: your capitals of your Muslim states and announce that you're
Speaker 4: a proud Christian or an atheist. That's worse, you'll be
Speaker 4: treated to tell them you're a gay atheist. Okay, if
Speaker 4: you want to see how sectarian politics works, go ahead.
Speaker 2: So a poll that is good news.
Speaker 3: Then this is from the Manhattan Institute Serious Organization. All polls,
Speaker 3: not this one. But polls have shown we've gone backwards
Speaker 3: on race since the nineties. Things have actually gotten worse
Speaker 3: racially in this country in terms of attitudes since the nineties,
Speaker 3: with you know, being more focused on race and theory
Speaker 3: to make it better has made it worse. I think
Speaker 3: we're all pretty much aware of that. And so they
Speaker 3: ask people the question, are you're given two choices here?
Speaker 3: Actually you're given three. Not sure is always a choice,
Speaker 3: and you always have you know, a tiny percentage of people.
Speaker 2: So oh no, I just want to hang out with
Speaker 2: those people. Think about it for a minute. I'll wait.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Wait, when you look around, I mean, in your real life,
Speaker 4: it has gotten better or worse, I don't know.
Speaker 2: No opinion.
Speaker 3: But the other two choices you have are we should
Speaker 3: focus on creating a race conscious society to repair the
Speaker 3: harms of the past by developing policies that benefit marginalized groups.
Speaker 3: That's what we have been doing since the early nineties.
Speaker 3: The other choice was, we should focus on creating a
Speaker 3: color blind society where everyone is treated equally regardless of
Speaker 3: the color of their skin. That's what we were doing
Speaker 3: more or less post Martin Luther King Junior, pre the
Speaker 3: early nineties, when things were actually getting better. Overall, it's
Speaker 3: sixty sixty eight percent. The second choice, almost seventy percent
Speaker 3: of Americans say we should focus on creating a color
Speaker 3: blind society. Sorry, the most popular book in America, at
Speaker 3: least according to all the TV hosts, was that Ibram
Speaker 3: Kennedy crap about. There's no such color blind is code
Speaker 3: for racist. There's no such thing as being I'm out
Speaker 3: kick about color.
Speaker 2: That means you're a racist.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, seventy percent of America doesn't agree with that,
Speaker 3: and you start breaking it down by different groups, and
Speaker 3: it's just astounding. First of all, it's every single group,
Speaker 3: it's majority. The smallest majority of just fifty percent is
Speaker 3: Black people said that. But even fifty percent of black
Speaker 3: people said that versus thirty seven percent who chose the other.
Speaker 2: So fifty thirty seven.
Speaker 3: You always say it's a good idea to because it's
Speaker 3: not always just doesn't always add up to one hundred, right, right,
Speaker 3: So only thirty seven percent of black people choose the
Speaker 3: we should focus on race conscious society and make everything
Speaker 3: about race for all the other groups.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 4: And I would like to see the Black folks divide
Speaker 4: by age in that answer. I think over forty it'd
Speaker 4: be vanishingly small.
Speaker 3: Even Democrats. It's a twenty point win for let's be
Speaker 3: color blind.
Speaker 2: And all this sort of stuff. It's a twenty point
Speaker 2: win for Democrats.
Speaker 3: For young people, which might be most susceptible to this
Speaker 3: sort of crap um, it's fifty six to thirty, twenty
Speaker 3: six point win for let's be a colorblind society.
Speaker 4: Wow, Wow, you are quite right when you mentioned we
Speaker 4: were going to be talking about this. This is absolutely
Speaker 4: the polar opposite of what you would be led to
Speaker 4: believe by taking in the mainstream media.
Speaker 3: Maybe you think the college crowd would be into this stuff. Nope,
Speaker 3: it's sixty five twenty eight. We should be a colorblind
Speaker 3: society for the college crowd.
Speaker 4: Yet we've all been hammered with Dei and Robin DiAngelo
Speaker 4: and Ibram Kenny and all of that garbage. There's a
Speaker 4: big study out that we touched on. We didn't really
Speaker 4: go into it. We should have that the eight billion
Speaker 4: dollars spent every year on diversity training in the US.
Speaker 4: In the US is demonstrably accomplishing the opposite of what
Speaker 4: it claims, which is not surprising because says I, and
Speaker 4: you and James Lindsay and other people have been trying
Speaker 4: to communicate DEI isn't intending to get diversity. That's not
Speaker 4: what it's there for. It's an instrument of the takeover
Speaker 4: of institutions with the excuse of racial justice.
Speaker 2: That's a dodge.
Speaker 4: It's the sheep's clothing the wolf is wearing.
Speaker 3: It also shows that it's the minority opinion by a
Speaker 3: lot that's into It's the first Hispanic quarterback to ever
Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl, or this is the first Indian
Speaker 3: American to go into space, or this is all that
Speaker 3: never ending crap. Is the minority opinion. Most people don't
Speaker 3: want that. They don't want to focus on who's what
Speaker 3: color or whatever. Just tell me Jim won the Super
Speaker 3: Bowl or Sandy became secretary or whatever or what, but
Speaker 3: leave that out of it.
Speaker 2: Amen to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah's heartening, that's some excellent news.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And and this has been the message of our
Speaker 4: show for a very, very long time. The truth is
Speaker 4: what you live and what you see and what you
Speaker 4: and your friends think, and don't be talked out of
Speaker 4: the truth by the weirdos of the mainstream media. Who
Speaker 4: are you know seeing their influence decrease moment by moment. Anyway,
Speaker 4: it's easy to feel alone because we have this electronic,
Speaker 4: media driven life that in one hundred years we've gone
Speaker 4: from ninety eight percent of our interactions were in person,
Speaker 4: in the same room with a human being to most
Speaker 4: of our perception of the world comes from media that
Speaker 4: is feeding it to us, and it is perverted our
Speaker 4: sense of reality.
Speaker 3: I think, well, all of society's become Plato's cave, except
Speaker 3: it's the Internet now instead of shadows on a wall.
Speaker 4: I got my kids Plato's Cave for Christmas. They played
Speaker 4: before with it for like two days, and then it
Speaker 4: went back in the closet.
Speaker 2: Right a Plato.
Speaker 4: Cave now tell us about play I see you have
Speaker 4: to jump over Chesterton's fence to get in.
Speaker 3: Oh see, these people are in a dark cave and
Speaker 3: they're just seeing shadows from a fire, and they come
Speaker 3: up with these perceptions of what the world is, and
Speaker 3: then they finally get out of the cave and realize
Speaker 3: that they are completely wrong, I mean, completely misled by
Speaker 3: the perceptions that they were given by that. And it's
Speaker 3: got long philosophical philosophical legs and tentacles going from there.
Speaker 2: But that is what we're doing with all this stuff,
Speaker 2: I would agree.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the media, we've used the term funhouse mirrors or whatever,
Speaker 4: but Plato's cave is a good illustration of it too.
Speaker 3: I have had a piece of pie every single day
Speaker 3: for five straight days, and let me tell you, if
Speaker 3: you haven't tried that, it's not good for your digestive system.
Speaker 2: Wow. I can only imagine the horror, just the heads up. Yes, Michael, Hey,
Speaker 2: how you doing on the cheese cave? Oh yeah, wow? Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that.
Speaker 3: I was kind of hoping that the cheesecake would be
Speaker 3: a binding agent after I eat the pie, which is.
Speaker 2: A bit of a theory.
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Speaker 3: Why was I up last night late watching Jim Carrey
Speaker 3: pontificate about the meaning of life? I didn't even know
Speaker 3: actor Jim Carrey did that sort of thing. I've never
Speaker 3: been a Jim Carrey fan.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 3: I like Dumb and Dumber and I Peck Detective and
Speaker 3: all that, but I like to but I hated the
Speaker 3: Truman Show.
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I've never been into him.
Speaker 3: I thought he was a pompous ass until last night
Speaker 3: when I clicked on a Jim Carrey short and he
Speaker 3: was talking about actually he was talking about forgiveness and
Speaker 3: Jesus and all kinds of different stuff.
Speaker 2: I didn't know he was such a believer, but he is.
Speaker 3: And the reason I got sucked into that probably was
Speaker 3: stuff I was looking for.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 3: I got divorced three and a half years ago, and
Speaker 3: I am not happy with where my life is. I
Speaker 3: don't like the fact that I'm a single dad and
Speaker 3: my kids are living up and a growing up in
Speaker 3: a split household.
Speaker 2: I hate that.
Speaker 3: I hate it so much, and I haven't been able
Speaker 3: to accept it and let it go at it all
Speaker 3: since the day I found out about it, which is
Speaker 3: which is not healthy, because you got no choice with
Speaker 3: certain things that come your way in life. You got
Speaker 3: no choice. You you got to accept him and move on.
Speaker 3: And I've done that with everything in my life, everything
Speaker 3: every in my life, all kinds of bad things that
Speaker 3: happened in my life except for this one. And I haven't
Speaker 3: been able to nudge an inch on this one for
Speaker 3: some reason. And it drives me nuts.
Speaker 4: Probably because you're reminded of the effects of it all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's part of it. Yeah, it is. The effects
Speaker 2: of it are all day, every day.
Speaker 3: But anyway, so I got into this this somehow. I
Speaker 3: was fed through the algorithm this stuff about Jim Carrey,
Speaker 3: and it was it was bigger.
Speaker 2: Than even that.
Speaker 3: It was just the idea of you know, now is
Speaker 3: all we've got, and accepting life for what it is
Speaker 3: and not having expectations, and really his main thing is
Speaker 3: just getting rid of your idea of who you are,
Speaker 3: because it's all made up in your head anyway, and
Speaker 3: just living your life, you know, moment by moment best
Speaker 3: you can by your morals and visions of what you want.
Speaker 2: But just letting go of your whole vision of yourself.
Speaker 3: His belief is everybody's torment, depression and all kinds of
Speaker 3: different stuff comes from a a vision they have of
Speaker 3: who they are, who they wanted to be, and it's
Speaker 3: not meeting up with reality. And if you just let
Speaker 3: go of all of that because you created it in
Speaker 3: your own mind, it wasn't like, you know, God said,
Speaker 3: this is who you have to pretend to be the
Speaker 3: rest of your life.
Speaker 2: If you just let go of all of that.
Speaker 3: He said, he had the kind of like gift of
Speaker 3: becoming rich and successful and all these different things and
Speaker 3: realizing it didn't make him happy before he was able
Speaker 3: to let go of all that stuff. Not everybody has
Speaker 3: that opportunity, but just to really realize that didn't do anything.
Speaker 2: That didn't help me at all. Yeah. Boy, there are
Speaker 2: a million directions to go with this discussion.
Speaker 3: It's very deep and very interesting, and I had like
Speaker 3: a brief five minute period of like really understanding it
Speaker 3: while I was laying in bed last night and thinking,
Speaker 3: I think I.
Speaker 2: Can do this. This is the answer.
Speaker 3: Let going letting go of the vision of what I
Speaker 3: thought life was going to be, because it's not going
Speaker 3: to be that. It's stupid to stay nailed to that
Speaker 3: and try to force a square pagan too a round hole.
Speaker 2: It'll never work. But then I lost it when I
Speaker 2: got up at this morning. Well that's disappointed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'll maybe I'll get it back later today,
Speaker 3: or maybe you have to work at it over time.
Speaker 2: I don't know. This is silly and trivial compared to
Speaker 2: that question.
Speaker 4: But I ran into somebody the other day who somebody said,
Speaker 4: it is what it is, and they expressed that I
Speaker 4: hate that. They said, I hate that expression. And then
Speaker 4: and I realize any expression, if it's overused, becomes very annoying.
Speaker 4: But it is what it is is the expression of
Speaker 4: an ancient, ancient piece of wisdom. It is saying yeah,
Speaker 4: it's straight out of Buddhism, it's straight of Christianity.
Speaker 2: It is saying amen, it is saying, so be it.
Speaker 2: I have accepted it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I always like this phrase of if something doesn't
Speaker 3: have a solution, it's not a problem. Dealing with everything
Speaker 3: like it's a problem doesn't make any sense. Things without
Speaker 3: a solution are a fact, they're not a problem, and
Speaker 3: so now you just go on with your life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well it does help to kind of stop and
Speaker 4: contemplate this stuff and try to figure out which is which?
Speaker 4: Right like you had your moment of clarity, then it
Speaker 4: was time to go to work. And hadn't I had
Speaker 4: it up here a second ago.
Speaker 3: Quick question for you, what if you happen to miss
Speaker 3: this unbelievable radio program.
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Speaker 4: Some economists have finally woken up to the fact that
Speaker 4: human beings are not like computerized decision makers. They're also
Speaker 4: of things that enter into economics, in particular, as Nobel
Speaker 4: Prize winning economist George Akerloff and his collaborator Rachel Cranton said,
Speaker 4: I wrote years and years ago, identity may be the
Speaker 4: most important economic decision people make, and it has to
Speaker 4: do with how you see yourself, how you want to
Speaker 4: project an identity, what group of people do you consider
Speaker 4: yourself part of? And you make all sorts of economic
Speaker 4: decisions based on not rational analysis, but identity.
Speaker 3: If I had known this was part of economics when
Speaker 3: I was in college, I could have easily made it
Speaker 3: my life. I only took microeconomics, which I hated. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's obviously got its value supply to my own, etc.
Speaker 3: But if I'd have known all this other stuff that
Speaker 3: I find so fascinating about economics was part of it,
Speaker 3: I would have man, I would have eaten that up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what would you call it?
Speaker 4: Psychoeconomics, socioeconomics or something like that. But they gave the
Speaker 4: example of an academic economist, not coincidentally, that's who we're
Speaker 4: talking about. That would be a social category, and that's
Speaker 4: the way they would see themselves or part of that
Speaker 4: group whatever. So they probably own a practical car and
Speaker 4: wear comfortable shoes, and if they showed up in a
Speaker 4: portion nine to eleven or a pair of five hundred
Speaker 4: dollars loafers, they would all not only feel like they
Speaker 4: were putting on airs, but they'd probably be mocked and
Speaker 4: scorned to buy colleagues. In traditional economics models, it's hard
Speaker 4: to rationalize why anyone would care so much about what
Speaker 4: shoes I walk in wearing right, or what car I drive,
Speaker 4: But that really affects decisions they go into.
Speaker 2: Like individual when you.
Speaker 3: Go to buy a pair of shoes or a car,
Speaker 3: practically anything, certainly anything anybody's going to observe. The options
Speaker 3: are not wide open for most people. They're limited to
Speaker 3: your identity. It has to shot into that world of
Speaker 3: your identity, which is interesting. We don't see ourselves out way.
Speaker 3: I think we most people like to see themselves as No,
Speaker 3: I could wear any kind of footwear.
Speaker 2: It's completely up to me. I'm my own person.
Speaker 3: But no, it fits into a view you heavy of yourself,
Speaker 3: where you want other people to have of you, or
Speaker 3: you think you had whatever.
Speaker 4: And then they talk about individual gains from both material
Speaker 4: outcomes and actions that conform to their identities.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, and labor markets.
Speaker 4: Workers are motivated by wages, of course, but also by
Speaker 4: how well their job aligns with their identities. They give
Speaker 4: the example of a corporate job might offer financial stability,
Speaker 4: but if it conflicts with an individual's identity is an
Speaker 4: I'm environmentalist, for instance, that's going to lead to satisfaction
Speaker 4: and underperformance in this vein, trying to train coal miners
Speaker 4: to be nurses may be feudal and Jack, I love.
Speaker 2: The idea you gave when we were talking about this.
Speaker 2: If you remember I.
Speaker 4: Don't you said trying to train farmers because the family
Speaker 4: farmers disappearing to be coders, have them sit in a
Speaker 4: cubicle ten hours a data code, they would hang themselves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you hear politicians through that around all the time,
Speaker 3: like you can just retrain people that have been a
Speaker 3: certain sort of person to be a completely different sort
Speaker 3: of person. And as the point of what you're saying is,
Speaker 3: it's not just about the money.
Speaker 4: So there's other research by a couple of guys you've
Speaker 4: never heard of, to provide a granular look into the
Speaker 4: mechanics of this phenomenon. There's studies based on lab experiments
Speaker 4: that prime subjects to see different parts of their identities
Speaker 4: is especially salient. Demonstrate that people may out for lower
Speaker 4: paying jobs if it means greater congruence or you know,
Speaker 4: fitting in with their social group, or might choose consumer
Speaker 4: goods that signal affiliation to a particular identity despite higher
Speaker 4: costs and no higher quality.
Speaker 2: We see that all the time in fashion Police.
Speaker 4: So they go into that at some length, and it's
Speaker 4: a very very interesting We'll post link at Armstrong and
Speaker 4: Getty dot com under hot links.
Speaker 2: But then let's see.
Speaker 4: They go more deeply into that diverges from traditional notions
Speaker 4: of comparative advantage typically applied to countries or firms. I
Speaker 4: met with several well known psychologists, writs this journalist. Across
Speaker 4: the country, many assume that heredity largely dictated the identities
Speaker 4: to which people gravitated. We investigated the academic paths chosen
Speaker 4: by students in racially and socioeconomically diverse schools. We found
Speaker 4: that students often align their academic efforts with what they
Speaker 4: perceive to be their comparative advantages. Interesting, and this is
Speaker 4: something that we and others have observed through the years,
Speaker 4: and people are extremely uncomfortable talking about.
Speaker 2: But we all ought to.
Speaker 4: Grow up and just say what's true and whether it
Speaker 4: makes us feel comfortable or not. If you want to
Speaker 4: actually solve problems, you better reckon with reality anyway. A
Speaker 4: student who sees his strength in social leadership rather than
Speaker 4: academic achievement might choose to invest more in social endeavors.
Speaker 2: This decision is based both on.
Speaker 4: Where he or she excels and where he perceives the
Speaker 4: greatest return for his efforts in both self fulfillment and importantly,
Speaker 4: social recognition. Booty or booty Yeah, in other research, who
Speaker 4: is I I haven't mentioned the name of the person
Speaker 4: writing this, Roland Fryar, who's an economist and a researcher anyway,
Speaker 4: or were we in other research? I found that black
Speaker 4: and Hispanic students with high grade point averages tended to
Speaker 4: be less popular, which was not true for white students.
Speaker 4: This was in line with previous works suggesting that high
Speaker 4: achieving black students were sometimes mocked for quote acting white.
Speaker 4: By incorporating this kind of peer pressure, the framework we've
Speaker 4: been talking about also illuminates how gender norms can influence
Speaker 4: field of study choices. Women might avoid STEM fields not
Speaker 4: because a lack of ability or interest, but due to
Speaker 4: societal norms dictating what is considered appropriate for their sex.
Speaker 4: They found a single business school.
Speaker 2: Yes, that is really interesting.
Speaker 3: That may have changed since I was in school, or
Speaker 3: maybe it depends on the neighborhood you're living, like. I
Speaker 3: live in a college town, So it would make sense
Speaker 3: that popularity and high school achievement might go together, but
Speaker 3: it didn't.
Speaker 2: At my school.
Speaker 3: The most popular people were absolutely not the people with
Speaker 3: the highest grade point averages, and would have been kind
Speaker 3: of unimaginable that it would.
Speaker 2: Be interesting interesting, and here as white as they come.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we're all white. One moment, I'm sorry. One
Speaker 4: more example, and then I want to make a point
Speaker 4: kind of disputing a little of this, but let's see this.
Speaker 4: Guy and his co authors have found that single female
Speaker 4: business school students quote reported lower desired salaries and willingness
Speaker 4: to travel and work long hours on a real stakes
Speaker 4: placement questionnaire when they expected their classmates to see their preference,
Speaker 4: a phenomenon known as acting.
Speaker 2: Wife as opposed to acting white.
Speaker 4: That is interesting, so and I misunderstood when I read
Speaker 4: it the first time. So if you ask single female
Speaker 4: business school students, what's your desired salary? What's your willingness
Speaker 4: to travel and work long hours? They will answer differently
Speaker 4: if they expect their peers to see their answers.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm not sure I understand that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm one thing, And it's funny. Tim Sanderfer and I.
Speaker 4: One of the few like significant difficult disagreements we've ever
Speaker 4: had is when we were doing a book club thingy
Speaker 4: that some of you may remember, when we were talking
Speaker 4: about Sebastian Junger's book Tribe, and I really liked it
Speaker 4: and thought it was really interesting thought provoking, and Tim
Speaker 4: didn't like it at all. He thought it was collectivist claptrap.
Speaker 4: I am paraphrasing bluntly and skilllessly. I'm sure Tim expressed
Speaker 4: his opinion much more eloquently. But the thing, and I
Speaker 4: think I may have said it to Tim, is that
Speaker 4: what Tim has to remember and what we have to remember,
Speaker 4: is that Tim is like at the the outer one
Speaker 4: percent of iconoclastic individualists the way he sees the world,
Speaker 4: and you and I are way out on that scale too,
Speaker 4: I think. And there are some very lovely people, very
Speaker 4: nice people who are like way past the midway point,
Speaker 4: and they're like good twenty five percent toward They find
Speaker 4: it really rewarding to be part of what other people
Speaker 4: are doing and go along with the crowd and to conform.
Speaker 4: They get a feeling of belonging from that that I
Speaker 4: think most real individualists.
Speaker 2: Don't experience in the same way.
Speaker 4: Right, And so you've got to remember when you're thinking
Speaker 4: about society on a whole, not everybody sees the.
Speaker 2: World like I do.
Speaker 3: Hyeah, especially if for talking economics like you said earlier, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you just do need to observe or take in what
Speaker 3: is whether it makes sense to you or not.
Speaker 4: And one of the great revolutions of revelations, not revolutions,
Speaker 4: well there's a revolution, it was a revelation revolution is
Speaker 4: that the Founding Fathers designed the Constitution to be ironclad
Speaker 4: against any takeover by monarchs or dictators or even populous.
Speaker 4: Not because most humans crave liberty, but because most humans don't.
Speaker 2: That was the danger. And when I realized that, I thought, oh, oh, yes.
Speaker 3: It works both ways though that whole want to be
Speaker 3: part of the crowd, It depends on your crowd. And
Speaker 3: that gets to the we were talking about the whole
Speaker 3: keeping it real thing earlier. If your crowd is it's
Speaker 3: not cool to really achieve, it's not a good way
Speaker 3: to keep it real. If if your crowd is, you know,
Speaker 3: achieving is the thing to be cool, then but keeping
Speaker 3: it real's fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, something to be said for looking at the crowd
Speaker 4: around you and assessing whether they are helping your life
Speaker 4: or hurting it.
Speaker 3: The desire for acceptance, so, I mean, it's right there
Speaker 3: in Maslow's hierarchy of needs. It's a big one belonging
Speaker 3: maslowt to shut up. I don't care what he thinks.
Speaker 3: Shut up, Maslow, get down off your Pyramid.
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Speaker 2: Let's be clear what's happening in this country. It's Nazism.
Speaker 2: Republicans are Nazis.
Speaker 5: You cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people.
Speaker 2: Growing up in the nineties, I never thought much about race.
Speaker 3: Sure you noticed, but never really seemed to matter that much,
Speaker 3: at least not to me, being a.
Speaker 2: White, straight, cisgender man. It's the top of the piles.
Speaker 2: I'm on the top of the bile. That's me. Am
Speaker 2: I Racist? I would really appreciate it if you left.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to learn the long this Jurney, Do you
Speaker 2: please leave?
Speaker 3: That's for Am I Racist? Which I'm going to on
Speaker 3: Saturday and I look forward to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, before we talk about that, just real quickly, because
Speaker 4: I'll forget again. I watched the brand new Netflix Apollo
Speaker 4: thirteen documentary last night. It was outstanding, absolutely great, compelling,
Speaker 4: a lot of NASA footage from the archives that hadn't
Speaker 4: been seen.
Speaker 3: I read that it was even more dramatic than the movie, which,
Speaker 3: of course, you know, is scripted in such a way
Speaker 3: to make it more dramatic to make it dramatic, which
Speaker 3: sounds amazing.
Speaker 4: I was on the edge of my seat. Judy had
Speaker 4: a commitment. She got home, like with ten minutes left,
Speaker 4: and I said.
Speaker 2: All right, I gotta finish this. I gotta finish this.
Speaker 4: I got it and during without giving too much away,
Speaker 4: of course, it's a historical event. People know what happened,
Speaker 4: but just the structure of the thing. But during the
Speaker 4: moments at the very end, when it wasn't clear the
Speaker 4: astronauts were alive, I said to Judy, sitting next to
Speaker 4: me on the couch, I said, I.
Speaker 2: Know how this ends, and this is killing.
Speaker 4: It's just unbelievably beautifully done.
Speaker 2: My only it's not a criticism.
Speaker 4: It's the only way it pales in comparison to the
Speaker 4: brilliant movie with Tom Hanks, The Delicious, Kevin Bacon and
Speaker 4: Gary Sinez.
Speaker 2: Is that.
Speaker 4: The documentary under dramatized the incredible creativity it took to
Speaker 4: redesign systems to do something completely different that the movie
Speaker 4: did brilliantly. As the folks back on Earth were trying
Speaker 4: to figure out how do we have them build a
Speaker 4: filter to get all the carbon dioxide out of the capsule,
Speaker 4: and they literally took a tube from this, a box
Speaker 4: from that, some cloth from that, and said, all right,
Speaker 4: plug this in. And they conducted these experiments, created this
Speaker 4: technology out of nothing in the space of like thirty
Speaker 4: six hours, working frantically around the clock. So I would suggest,
Speaker 4: you know, watch the movie and the document and then
Speaker 4: a nonspiring story.
Speaker 2: And then Tom Hanks dies of aids or is that
Speaker 2: a different movie.
Speaker 4: Different movie, another fine film, though he and Jenny get together.
Speaker 4: I will also make this point if you're done with
Speaker 4: your inanities. And this is kind of a leading It
Speaker 4: was interesting that mission control, the virtually everyone involved was
Speaker 4: a white man.
Speaker 2: Which is why against the I won't recognize the moon landing,
Speaker 2: and and we as a society of you know, I
Speaker 2: think you come a long way in involving the best
Speaker 2: and brightest, no matter what they look like.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, it was also undeniable that all
Speaker 4: of those white fellas were brilliant, hardworking, creative, responsible, compassionate.
Speaker 2: And virtually everything you could want from.
Speaker 4: A human being. So hey, here's an idea. Let's not
Speaker 4: demonize people because of the color of their skin. We
Speaker 4: used to agree on that, which brings us to Matt
Speaker 4: Walsh's hilarious and uncomfortable new m I Racist, which is
Speaker 4: very enjoyable. It's I think the number four movie around
Speaker 4: the country or sometimes is it really a top five
Speaker 4: top five box office? No kidding yet got no reviews
Speaker 4: zero And that was actually the topic of Matt's recent
Speaker 4: Twitter thread. Many of you have asked how it's possible
Speaker 4: that our new film, am I Racist hasn't been reviewed
Speaker 4: by a single mainstream critic, even with a ninety nine
Speaker 4: percent audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 3: Do you do something similar to the other direction like
Speaker 3: Bowling from Columbine that's from the Left and the Michael
Speaker 3: Moore any of the Michael Moore movies. Not only does
Speaker 3: it get endless reviews, it wins Oscars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, top five box office debut. Beginning in August,
Speaker 4: we reached out to dozens of mainstream out let's offering
Speaker 4: an early screener of the film. These outlets included Time, AP, Indie, Wier, Variety, THHR,
Speaker 4: Times New Yorker, and A bunch more all the usual
Speaker 4: suspect You know what I'm going to name some of
Speaker 4: the usual suspects. Oh, that's that's the list. Okay, blah
Speaker 4: blah blah.
Speaker 2: We did not a single one responded and said they
Speaker 2: would review the movie.
Speaker 4: We did, however, that yeah, follow it up to virtual silence,
Speaker 4: So they bugged him again and said, hey, did you
Speaker 4: get our package and everything? And virtual silence. We did, however,
Speaker 4: receive a flurry of unprofessional emails from independent critics who
Speaker 4: were enraged we'd even.
Speaker 2: Ask them to review the film.
Speaker 4: One of them the wrote that he wouldn't waste any
Speaker 4: professional time on a movie opening in over fifteen hundred
Speaker 4: theaters because I was involved. R it's Matt Walsh. Let's see,
Speaker 4: here's the note. Wahaha absolutely not hardest decline. I will
Speaker 4: not waste a second of my life on Matt Walsh.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 4: Another critics said you'd have to strap me to a
Speaker 4: chair like Malcolm McDowell. Let's say clockwork orange reference to
Speaker 4: get me to watch this thing. Another wrote, you take
Speaker 4: me off this list. After it was clear that am
Speaker 4: I Racist was a hit, Variety attempted to cover for
Speaker 4: this oversight with a claim that Daily Wire did not
Speaker 4: screen the movie for critics. We've asked them to correct this,
Speaker 4: but they have not. They still haven't posted a review,
Speaker 4: but I hope they will a few other mainstream outlets
Speaker 4: have since requested screeners but have yet to publish a review.
Speaker 4: One major mainstream outlet even acknowledged we had attempted to
Speaker 4: get them at advanced screener, but said the film had
Speaker 4: slipped through the cracks. This isn't a mistake. You'd be
Speaker 4: hard pressed to find another film that opened in fifteen
Speaker 4: more than fifteen hundred theaters that was completely snubbed by
Speaker 4: mainstream critics.
Speaker 2: If Am I Racist were terrible.
Speaker 4: These outlets could have reviewed it and trashed it, But
Speaker 4: the reality is they're afraid of it. Am I Racist
Speaker 4: been so successful because we specifically because we didn't churn
Speaker 4: out another ste predictable Hollywood style film blah blah, blah blah,
Speaker 4: one last thing. Rolling Stone was one of the first
Speaker 4: outlets to request the screener for the review after the
Speaker 4: movie was announced back in July. They've yet to post
Speaker 4: a review, which is a bummer because I was looking
Speaker 4: forward to theirs. Most of all, I've said many times,
Speaker 4: there's a huge growing awareness of how the woke thing
Speaker 4: and critical race theory and radical gender theory and queer theory,
Speaker 4: the transgender thing it's all neo Marxism with different guys
Speaker 4: as different faces, but it's all intent on tearing down
Speaker 4: Western civilization and putting those people in charge. We are
Speaker 4: at the end of the beginning, not the beginning of
Speaker 4: the end. Here is a really well done, controversial, but
Speaker 4: extremely relevant movie that they're so.
Speaker 2: Afraid of they won't even review.
Speaker 4: It to trash it. They pretend it doesn't exist. We've
Speaker 4: barely begun the fight.
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