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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio and the

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<v Speaker 4>On the.

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<v Speaker 3>Topic of race, this is going to end up being

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<v Speaker 3>good news you're going to be happy about. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 3>is not a downer segment when I get to some

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<v Speaker 3>statistics that back up what you think, what you what

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<v Speaker 3>we think, what your neighbors think, as opposed to what

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<v Speaker 3>you're being told every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>But first of this, what are we about to hear? Katie?

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<v Speaker 5>So this is from an YouTube podcast called so True,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's Caleb Herron, who is a gay comedian and

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<v Speaker 5>Nori Reid, who is queer, and I believe trams talking

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<v Speaker 5>about their one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Is gay and one of them's queer. I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't use the term queer.

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<v Speaker 4>Refuse well, and I spank you verbally for using it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an all purpose term that just means I'm against

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<v Speaker 4>the man man.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, anyway, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>My dad is white and I can't do anything about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's nothing I can do.

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry, I'm gonna cry because I can't do anything about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that you had to go through that.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you as somebody of white experience, I know how

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<v Speaker 7>about it can.

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<v Speaker 2>Be, but my mom is full on Asian thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>That's when my dad died. I cheered because I said,

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<v Speaker 7>that's one last white man. That's how progressive I am.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, I like talk about ally. I said,

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<v Speaker 7>get him out of here, get him out of here.

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<v Speaker 7>I said, take him away, satan.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's kind of how it works, right.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like if one white person dies, then you say

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<v Speaker 6>that like a person of color comes into the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a diverse story gets elevated. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>a spiritual experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the problem with everything in modern society. You play

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<v Speaker 3>that for me ten years ago, I know they're jerking

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<v Speaker 3>me around, that they're just saying that to be provocative.

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<v Speaker 3>But now everything is so crazy that could be them

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<v Speaker 3>saying that to jerk me around, or it could be

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent what they believe.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I suspect it's sincere. Really, yes, oh yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>they I have been insane folder of stories ready to

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<v Speaker 4>go about the so called DEI programs and universities and

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<v Speaker 4>various corporations in the government and how utterly racist and

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<v Speaker 4>twisted they are. Yeah, Katie, would you like to weigh

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<v Speaker 4>in on the authenticity or sincerity of the two gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it seemed quite sincere. And that's kind of the theme.

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<v Speaker 5>Of this podcast is mega left progressive hitting all the

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<v Speaker 5>talking points that the media salivates over.

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that a philosophy that insane and insanely stupid

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<v Speaker 4>would have any currency in the modern world is frightening

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<v Speaker 4>to me. It is so post enlightenment, it is so

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<v Speaker 4>post to you know, racial healing. It's ugly, it's obscene,

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<v Speaker 4>and yet it has infected so many of our institutions.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I remember when in California, and this is probably

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<v Speaker 3>ten fifteen years ago, white people were going to cease

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<v Speaker 3>being the majority. They were still going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest group, but they weren't the majority. Of California and

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<v Speaker 3>the line got crossed. There were more people that weren't

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<v Speaker 3>white than were white for the first time ever. And

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<v Speaker 3>the cheering and celebration about that, it's just so weird

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<v Speaker 3>to me. Not that I cheer having more white people

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<v Speaker 3>than Harvey, who's cheering percentage of of race.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>Folks who have been converted to the Church of Dei

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<v Speaker 4>of Wochism before it was it was called that.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when I remember, I can remember, like I

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<v Speaker 3>just there. I won't mention the name, but our newsman,

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<v Speaker 3>Marsha Phillips did the story and another person who was

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<v Speaker 3>a person of color on the show cheered, all right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's like, why is that thrilling for you? That will

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<v Speaker 3>be now less way? I mean, what do you think

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<v Speaker 3>is going to happen because of that? I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>they think about that much at all. They've just been

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<v Speaker 3>recruited again into the cult of.

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<v Speaker 4>Racial politics and that's been super successful through the years.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you want to see how that works, go

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<v Speaker 4>to the Middle East, go to you know, any of

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<v Speaker 4>your capitals of your Muslim states and announce that you're

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<v Speaker 4>a proud Christian or an atheist. That's worse, you'll be

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<v Speaker 4>treated to tell them you're a gay atheist. Okay, if

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<v Speaker 4>you want to see how sectarian politics works, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>So a poll that is good news.

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<v Speaker 3>Then this is from the Manhattan Institute Serious Organization. All polls,

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<v Speaker 3>not this one. But polls have shown we've gone backwards

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<v Speaker 3>on race since the nineties. Things have actually gotten worse

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<v Speaker 3>racially in this country in terms of attitudes since the nineties,

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<v Speaker 3>with you know, being more focused on race and theory

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<v Speaker 3>to make it better has made it worse. I think

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<v Speaker 3>we're all pretty much aware of that. And so they

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<v Speaker 3>ask people the question, are you're given two choices here?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually you're given three. Not sure is always a choice,

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<v Speaker 3>and you always have you know, a tiny percentage of people.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh no, I just want to hang out with

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<v Speaker 2>those people. Think about it for a minute. I'll wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, when you look around, I mean, in your real life,

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<v Speaker 4>it has gotten better or worse, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>No opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>But the other two choices you have are we should

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<v Speaker 3>focus on creating a race conscious society to repair the

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<v Speaker 3>harms of the past by developing policies that benefit marginalized groups.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we have been doing since the early nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>The other choice was, we should focus on creating a

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<v Speaker 3>color blind society where everyone is treated equally regardless of

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<v Speaker 3>the color of their skin. That's what we were doing

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<v Speaker 3>more or less post Martin Luther King Junior, pre the

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<v Speaker 3>early nineties, when things were actually getting better. Overall, it's

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<v Speaker 3>sixty sixty eight percent. The second choice, almost seventy percent

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<v Speaker 3>of Americans say we should focus on creating a color

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<v Speaker 3>blind society. Sorry, the most popular book in America, at

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<v Speaker 3>least according to all the TV hosts, was that Ibram

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<v Speaker 3>Kennedy crap about. There's no such color blind is code

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<v Speaker 3>for racist. There's no such thing as being I'm out

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<v Speaker 3>kick about color.

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<v Speaker 2>That means you're a racist.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, seventy percent of America doesn't agree with that,

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<v Speaker 3>and you start breaking it down by different groups, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just astounding. First of all, it's every single group,

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<v Speaker 3>it's majority. The smallest majority of just fifty percent is

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<v Speaker 3>Black people said that. But even fifty percent of black

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<v Speaker 3>people said that versus thirty seven percent who chose the other.

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<v Speaker 2>So fifty thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>You always say it's a good idea to because it's

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<v Speaker 3>not always just doesn't always add up to one hundred, right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So only thirty seven percent of black people choose the

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<v Speaker 3>we should focus on race conscious society and make everything

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<v Speaker 3>about race for all the other groups.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would like to see the Black folks divide

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<v Speaker 4>by age in that answer. I think over forty it'd

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<v Speaker 4>be vanishingly small.

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<v Speaker 3>Even Democrats. It's a twenty point win for let's be

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<v Speaker 3>color blind.

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<v Speaker 2>And all this sort of stuff. It's a twenty point

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<v Speaker 2>win for Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>For young people, which might be most susceptible to this

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<v Speaker 3>sort of crap um, it's fifty six to thirty, twenty

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<v Speaker 3>six point win for let's be a colorblind society.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, Wow, you are quite right when you mentioned we

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<v Speaker 4>were going to be talking about this. This is absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>the polar opposite of what you would be led to

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<v Speaker 4>believe by taking in the mainstream media.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you think the college crowd would be into this stuff. Nope,

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<v Speaker 3>it's sixty five twenty eight. We should be a colorblind

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<v Speaker 3>society for the college crowd.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet we've all been hammered with Dei and Robin DiAngelo

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<v Speaker 4>and Ibram Kenny and all of that garbage. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>big study out that we touched on. We didn't really

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<v Speaker 4>go into it. We should have that the eight billion

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<v Speaker 4>dollars spent every year on diversity training in the US.

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<v Speaker 4>In the US is demonstrably accomplishing the opposite of what

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<v Speaker 4>it claims, which is not surprising because says I, and

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<v Speaker 4>you and James Lindsay and other people have been trying

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<v Speaker 4>to communicate DEI isn't intending to get diversity. That's not

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<v Speaker 4>what it's there for. It's an instrument of the takeover

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<v Speaker 4>of institutions with the excuse of racial justice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a dodge.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the sheep's clothing the wolf is wearing.

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<v Speaker 3>It also shows that it's the minority opinion by a

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<v Speaker 3>lot that's into It's the first Hispanic quarterback to ever

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<v Speaker 3>win a Super Bowl, or this is the first Indian

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<v Speaker 3>American to go into space, or this is all that

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<v Speaker 3>never ending crap. Is the minority opinion. Most people don't

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<v Speaker 3>want that. They don't want to focus on who's what

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<v Speaker 3>color or whatever. Just tell me Jim won the Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl or Sandy became secretary or whatever or what, but

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<v Speaker 3>leave that out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah's heartening, that's some excellent news.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And and this has been the message of our

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<v Speaker 4>show for a very, very long time. The truth is

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<v Speaker 4>what you live and what you see and what you

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<v Speaker 4>and your friends think, and don't be talked out of

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<v Speaker 4>the truth by the weirdos of the mainstream media. Who

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<v Speaker 4>are you know seeing their influence decrease moment by moment. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>it's easy to feel alone because we have this electronic,

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<v Speaker 4>media driven life that in one hundred years we've gone

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<v Speaker 4>from ninety eight percent of our interactions were in person,

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<v Speaker 4>in the same room with a human being to most

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<v Speaker 4>of our perception of the world comes from media that

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<v Speaker 4>is feeding it to us, and it is perverted our

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<v Speaker 4>sense of reality.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, well, all of society's become Plato's cave, except

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<v Speaker 3>it's the Internet now instead of shadows on a wall.

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<v Speaker 4>I got my kids Plato's Cave for Christmas. They played

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<v Speaker 4>before with it for like two days, and then it

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<v Speaker 4>went back in the closet.

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<v Speaker 2>Right a Plato.

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<v Speaker 4>Cave now tell us about play I see you have

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<v Speaker 4>to jump over Chesterton's fence to get in.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh see, these people are in a dark cave and

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<v Speaker 3>they're just seeing shadows from a fire, and they come

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<v Speaker 3>up with these perceptions of what the world is, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they finally get out of the cave and realize

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<v Speaker 3>that they are completely wrong, I mean, completely misled by

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<v Speaker 3>the perceptions that they were given by that. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>got long philosophical philosophical legs and tentacles going from there.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is what we're doing with all this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>I would agree.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the media, we've used the term funhouse mirrors or whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>but Plato's cave is a good illustration of it too.

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<v Speaker 3>I have had a piece of pie every single day

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<v Speaker 3>for five straight days, and let me tell you, if

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<v Speaker 3>you haven't tried that, it's not good for your digestive system.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. I can only imagine the horror, just the heads up. Yes, Michael, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>how you doing on the cheese cave? Oh yeah, wow? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was kind of hoping that the cheesecake would be

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<v Speaker 3>a binding agent after I eat the pie, which is.

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<v Speaker 2>A bit of a theory.

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<v Speaker 3>Why was I up last night late watching Jim Carrey

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<v Speaker 3>pontificate about the meaning of life? I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 3>actor Jim Carrey did that sort of thing. I've never

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<v Speaker 3>been a Jim Carrey fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 3>I like Dumb and Dumber and I Peck Detective and

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<v Speaker 3>all that, but I like to but I hated the

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<v Speaker 3>Truman Show.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know. I've never been into him.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he was a pompous ass until last night

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<v Speaker 3>when I clicked on a Jim Carrey short and he

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<v Speaker 3>was talking about actually he was talking about forgiveness and

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus and all kinds of different stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know he was such a believer, but he is.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason I got sucked into that probably was

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<v Speaker 3>stuff I was looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I got divorced three and a half years ago, and

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<v Speaker 3>I am not happy with where my life is. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't like the fact that I'm a single dad and

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<v Speaker 3>my kids are living up and a growing up in

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<v Speaker 3>a split household.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate it so much, and I haven't been able

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<v Speaker 3>to accept it and let it go at it all

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<v Speaker 3>since the day I found out about it, which is

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<v Speaker 3>which is not healthy, because you got no choice with

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<v Speaker 3>certain things that come your way in life. You got

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<v Speaker 3>no choice. You you got to accept him and move on.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've done that with everything in my life, everything

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<v Speaker 3>every in my life, all kinds of bad things that

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<v Speaker 3>happened in my life except for this one. And I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>been able to nudge an inch on this one for

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<v Speaker 3>some reason. And it drives me nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably because you're reminded of the effects of it all

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<v Speaker 4>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's part of it. Yeah, it is. The effects

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<v Speaker 2>of it are all day, every day.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, so I got into this this somehow. I

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<v Speaker 3>was fed through the algorithm this stuff about Jim Carrey,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was it was bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>Than even that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just the idea of you know, now is

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<v Speaker 3>all we've got, and accepting life for what it is

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<v Speaker 3>and not having expectations, and really his main thing is

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<v Speaker 3>just getting rid of your idea of who you are,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's all made up in your head anyway, and

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<v Speaker 3>just living your life, you know, moment by moment best

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<v Speaker 3>you can by your morals and visions of what you want.

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<v Speaker 2>But just letting go of your whole vision of yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>His belief is everybody's torment, depression and all kinds of

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<v Speaker 3>different stuff comes from a a vision they have of

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<v Speaker 3>who they are, who they wanted to be, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not meeting up with reality. And if you just let

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<v Speaker 3>go of all of that because you created it in

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<v Speaker 3>your own mind, it wasn't like, you know, God said,

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<v Speaker 3>this is who you have to pretend to be the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>If you just let go of all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, he had the kind of like gift of

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<v Speaker 3>becoming rich and successful and all these different things and

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<v Speaker 3>realizing it didn't make him happy before he was able

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<v Speaker 3>to let go of all that stuff. Not everybody has

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<v Speaker 3>that opportunity, but just to really realize that didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>That didn't help me at all. Yeah. Boy, there are

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<v Speaker 2>a million directions to go with this discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very deep and very interesting, and I had like

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<v Speaker 3>a brief five minute period of like really understanding it

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<v Speaker 3>while I was laying in bed last night and thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can do this. This is the answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Let going letting go of the vision of what I

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<v Speaker 3>thought life was going to be, because it's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be that. It's stupid to stay nailed to that

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<v Speaker 3>and try to force a square pagan too a round hole.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll never work. But then I lost it when I

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<v Speaker 2>got up at this morning. Well that's disappointed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe I'll maybe I'll get it back later today,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe you have to work at it over time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. This is silly and trivial compared to

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<v Speaker 2>that question.

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<v Speaker 4>But I ran into somebody the other day who somebody said,

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<v Speaker 4>it is what it is, and they expressed that I

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<v Speaker 4>hate that. They said, I hate that expression. And then

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<v Speaker 4>and I realize any expression, if it's overused, becomes very annoying.

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<v Speaker 4>But it is what it is is the expression of

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<v Speaker 4>an ancient, ancient piece of wisdom. It is saying yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's straight out of Buddhism, it's straight of Christianity.

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<v Speaker 2>It is saying amen, it is saying, so be it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have accepted it. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I always like this phrase of if something doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have a solution, it's not a problem. Dealing with everything

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a problem doesn't make any sense. Things without

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<v Speaker 3>a solution are a fact, they're not a problem, and

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<v Speaker 3>so now you just go on with your life.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well it does help to kind of stop and

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<v Speaker 4>contemplate this stuff and try to figure out which is which?

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<v Speaker 4>Right like you had your moment of clarity, then it

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<v Speaker 4>was time to go to work. And hadn't I had

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<v Speaker 4>it up here a second ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Some economists have finally woken up to the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>human beings are not like computerized decision makers. They're also

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<v Speaker 4>of things that enter into economics, in particular, as Nobel

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<v Speaker 4>Prize winning economist George Akerloff and his collaborator Rachel Cranton said,

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote years and years ago, identity may be the

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<v Speaker 4>most important economic decision people make, and it has to

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<v Speaker 4>do with how you see yourself, how you want to

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<v Speaker 4>project an identity, what group of people do you consider

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<v Speaker 4>yourself part of? And you make all sorts of economic

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<v Speaker 4>decisions based on not rational analysis, but identity.

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<v Speaker 3>If I had known this was part of economics when

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<v Speaker 3>I was in college, I could have easily made it

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<v Speaker 3>my life. I only took microeconomics, which I hated. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's obviously got its value supply to my own, etc.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I'd have known all this other stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>I find so fascinating about economics was part of it,

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<v Speaker 3>I would have man, I would have eaten that up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what would you call it?

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<v Speaker 4>Psychoeconomics, socioeconomics or something like that. But they gave the

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<v Speaker 4>example of an academic economist, not coincidentally, that's who we're

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<v Speaker 4>talking about. That would be a social category, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>the way they would see themselves or part of that

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<v Speaker 4>group whatever. So they probably own a practical car and

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<v Speaker 4>wear comfortable shoes, and if they showed up in a

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<v Speaker 4>portion nine to eleven or a pair of five hundred

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<v Speaker 4>dollars loafers, they would all not only feel like they

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<v Speaker 4>were putting on airs, but they'd probably be mocked and

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<v Speaker 4>scorned to buy colleagues. In traditional economics models, it's hard

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<v Speaker 4>to rationalize why anyone would care so much about what

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<v Speaker 4>shoes I walk in wearing right, or what car I drive,

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<v Speaker 4>But that really affects decisions they go into.

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<v Speaker 2>Like individual when you.

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<v Speaker 3>Go to buy a pair of shoes or a car,

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<v Speaker 3>practically anything, certainly anything anybody's going to observe. The options

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<v Speaker 3>are not wide open for most people. They're limited to

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<v Speaker 3>your identity. It has to shot into that world of

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<v Speaker 3>your identity, which is interesting. We don't see ourselves out way.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we most people like to see themselves as No,

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<v Speaker 3>I could wear any kind of footwear.

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<v Speaker 2>It's completely up to me. I'm my own person.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, it fits into a view you heavy of yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>where you want other people to have of you, or

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<v Speaker 3>you think you had whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they talk about individual gains from both material

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<v Speaker 4>outcomes and actions that conform to their identities.

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<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah, and labor markets.

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<v Speaker 4>Workers are motivated by wages, of course, but also by

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<v Speaker 4>how well their job aligns with their identities. They give

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<v Speaker 4>the example of a corporate job might offer financial stability,

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<v Speaker 4>but if it conflicts with an individual's identity is an

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<v Speaker 4>I'm environmentalist, for instance, that's going to lead to satisfaction

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<v Speaker 4>and underperformance in this vein, trying to train coal miners

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<v Speaker 4>to be nurses may be feudal and Jack, I love.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea you gave when we were talking about this.

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<v Speaker 2>If you remember I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't you said trying to train farmers because the family

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<v Speaker 4>farmers disappearing to be coders, have them sit in a

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<v Speaker 4>cubicle ten hours a data code, they would hang themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you hear politicians through that around all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>like you can just retrain people that have been a

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<v Speaker 3>certain sort of person to be a completely different sort

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<v Speaker 3>of person. And as the point of what you're saying is,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just about the money.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's other research by a couple of guys you've

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<v Speaker 4>never heard of, to provide a granular look into the

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<v Speaker 4>mechanics of this phenomenon. There's studies based on lab experiments

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<v Speaker 4>that prime subjects to see different parts of their identities

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<v Speaker 4>is especially salient. Demonstrate that people may out for lower

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<v Speaker 4>paying jobs if it means greater congruence or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>fitting in with their social group, or might choose consumer

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<v Speaker 4>goods that signal affiliation to a particular identity despite higher

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<v Speaker 4>costs and no higher quality.

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<v Speaker 2>We see that all the time in fashion Police.

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<v Speaker 4>So they go into that at some length, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>a very very interesting We'll post link at Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 4>Getty dot com under hot links.

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<v Speaker 2>But then let's see.

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<v Speaker 4>They go more deeply into that diverges from traditional notions

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<v Speaker 4>of comparative advantage typically applied to countries or firms. I

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<v Speaker 4>met with several well known psychologists, writs this journalist. Across

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<v Speaker 4>the country, many assume that heredity largely dictated the identities

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<v Speaker 4>to which people gravitated. We investigated the academic paths chosen

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<v Speaker 4>by students in racially and socioeconomically diverse schools. We found

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<v Speaker 4>that students often align their academic efforts with what they

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<v Speaker 4>perceive to be their comparative advantages. Interesting, and this is

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<v Speaker 4>something that we and others have observed through the years,

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<v Speaker 4>and people are extremely uncomfortable talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>But we all ought to.

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<v Speaker 4>Grow up and just say what's true and whether it

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<v Speaker 4>makes us feel comfortable or not. If you want to

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<v Speaker 4>actually solve problems, you better reckon with reality anyway. A

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<v Speaker 4>student who sees his strength in social leadership rather than

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<v Speaker 4>academic achievement might choose to invest more in social endeavors.

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<v Speaker 2>This decision is based both on.

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<v Speaker 4>Where he or she excels and where he perceives the

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<v Speaker 4>greatest return for his efforts in both self fulfillment and importantly,

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<v Speaker 4>social recognition. Booty or booty Yeah, in other research, who

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<v Speaker 4>is I I haven't mentioned the name of the person

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<v Speaker 4>writing this, Roland Fryar, who's an economist and a researcher anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>or were we in other research? I found that black

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<v Speaker 4>and Hispanic students with high grade point averages tended to

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<v Speaker 4>be less popular, which was not true for white students.

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<v Speaker 4>This was in line with previous works suggesting that high

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<v Speaker 4>achieving black students were sometimes mocked for quote acting white.

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<v Speaker 4>By incorporating this kind of peer pressure, the framework we've

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<v Speaker 4>been talking about also illuminates how gender norms can influence

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<v Speaker 4>field of study choices. Women might avoid STEM fields not

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<v Speaker 4>because a lack of ability or interest, but due to

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<v Speaker 4>societal norms dictating what is considered appropriate for their sex.

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<v Speaker 4>They found a single business school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>That may have changed since I was in school, or

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it depends on the neighborhood you're living, like. I

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<v Speaker 3>live in a college town, So it would make sense

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<v Speaker 3>that popularity and high school achievement might go together, but

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>At my school.

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<v Speaker 3>The most popular people were absolutely not the people with

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<v Speaker 3>the highest grade point averages, and would have been kind

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<v Speaker 3>of unimaginable that it would.

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<v Speaker 2>Be interesting interesting, and here as white as they come.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we're all white. One moment, I'm sorry. One

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<v Speaker 4>more example, and then I want to make a point

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<v Speaker 4>kind of disputing a little of this, but let's see this.

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<v Speaker 4>Guy and his co authors have found that single female

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<v Speaker 4>business school students quote reported lower desired salaries and willingness

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<v Speaker 4>to travel and work long hours on a real stakes

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<v Speaker 4>placement questionnaire when they expected their classmates to see their preference,

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<v Speaker 4>a phenomenon known as acting.

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<v Speaker 2>Wife as opposed to acting white.

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<v Speaker 4>That is interesting, so and I misunderstood when I read

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<v Speaker 4>it the first time. So if you ask single female

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<v Speaker 4>business school students, what's your desired salary? What's your willingness

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<v Speaker 4>to travel and work long hours? They will answer differently

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<v Speaker 4>if they expect their peers to see their answers.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I'm not sure I understand that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm one thing, And it's funny. Tim Sanderfer and I.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the few like significant difficult disagreements we've ever

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<v Speaker 4>had is when we were doing a book club thingy

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<v Speaker 4>that some of you may remember, when we were talking

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<v Speaker 4>about Sebastian Junger's book Tribe, and I really liked it

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<v Speaker 4>and thought it was really interesting thought provoking, and Tim

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<v Speaker 4>didn't like it at all. He thought it was collectivist claptrap.

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<v Speaker 4>I am paraphrasing bluntly and skilllessly. I'm sure Tim expressed

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<v Speaker 4>his opinion much more eloquently. But the thing, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think I may have said it to Tim, is that

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<v Speaker 4>what Tim has to remember and what we have to remember,

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<v Speaker 4>is that Tim is like at the the outer one

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<v Speaker 4>percent of iconoclastic individualists the way he sees the world,

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<v Speaker 4>and you and I are way out on that scale too,

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<v Speaker 4>I think. And there are some very lovely people, very

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<v Speaker 4>nice people who are like way past the midway point,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're like good twenty five percent toward They find

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<v Speaker 4>it really rewarding to be part of what other people

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<v Speaker 4>are doing and go along with the crowd and to conform.

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<v Speaker 4>They get a feeling of belonging from that that I

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<v Speaker 4>think most real individualists.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't experience in the same way.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And so you've got to remember when you're thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about society on a whole, not everybody sees the.

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<v Speaker 2>World like I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Hyeah, especially if for talking economics like you said earlier, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you just do need to observe or take in what

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<v Speaker 3>is whether it makes sense to you or not.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of the great revolutions of revelations, not revolutions,

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<v Speaker 4>well there's a revolution, it was a revelation revolution is

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<v Speaker 4>that the Founding Fathers designed the Constitution to be ironclad

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<v Speaker 4>against any takeover by monarchs or dictators or even populous.

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<v Speaker 4>Not because most humans crave liberty, but because most humans don't.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the danger. And when I realized that, I thought, oh, oh, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>It works both ways though that whole want to be

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<v Speaker 3>part of the crowd, It depends on your crowd. And

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<v Speaker 3>that gets to the we were talking about the whole

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<v Speaker 3>keeping it real thing earlier. If your crowd is it's

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<v Speaker 3>not cool to really achieve, it's not a good way

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<v Speaker 3>to keep it real. If if your crowd is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>achieving is the thing to be cool, then but keeping

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<v Speaker 3>it real's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, something to be said for looking at the crowd

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<v Speaker 4>around you and assessing whether they are helping your life

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<v Speaker 4>or hurting it.

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<v Speaker 3>The desire for acceptance, so, I mean, it's right there

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<v Speaker 3>in Maslow's hierarchy of needs. It's a big one belonging

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<v Speaker 3>maslowt to shut up. I don't care what he thinks.

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<v Speaker 3>Shut up, Maslow, get down off your Pyramid.

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<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, or Jack your Joe podcasts and our hot links

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<v Speaker 4>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be clear what's happening in this country. It's Nazism.

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans are Nazis.

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<v Speaker 5>You cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people.

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<v Speaker 2>Growing up in the nineties, I never thought much about race.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure you noticed, but never really seemed to matter that much,

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<v Speaker 3>at least not to me, being a.

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<v Speaker 2>White, straight, cisgender man. It's the top of the piles.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the top of the bile. That's me. Am

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<v Speaker 2>I Racist? I would really appreciate it if you left.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to learn the long this Jurney, Do you

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<v Speaker 2>please leave?

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<v Speaker 3>That's for Am I Racist? Which I'm going to on

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday and I look forward to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, before we talk about that, just real quickly, because

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<v Speaker 4>I'll forget again. I watched the brand new Netflix Apollo

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<v Speaker 4>thirteen documentary last night. It was outstanding, absolutely great, compelling,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of NASA footage from the archives that hadn't

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<v Speaker 4>been seen.

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<v Speaker 3>I read that it was even more dramatic than the movie, which,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, you know, is scripted in such a way

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<v Speaker 3>to make it more dramatic to make it dramatic, which

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<v Speaker 3>sounds amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>I was on the edge of my seat. Judy had

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<v Speaker 4>a commitment. She got home, like with ten minutes left,

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<v Speaker 4>and I said.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I gotta finish this. I gotta finish this.

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<v Speaker 4>I got it and during without giving too much away,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, it's a historical event. People know what happened,

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<v Speaker 4>but just the structure of the thing. But during the

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<v Speaker 4>moments at the very end, when it wasn't clear the

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<v Speaker 4>astronauts were alive, I said to Judy, sitting next to

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<v Speaker 4>me on the couch, I said, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know how this ends, and this is killing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just unbelievably beautifully done.

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<v Speaker 2>My only it's not a criticism.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the only way it pales in comparison to the

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<v Speaker 4>brilliant movie with Tom Hanks, The Delicious, Kevin Bacon and

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<v Speaker 4>Gary Sinez.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that.

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<v Speaker 4>The documentary under dramatized the incredible creativity it took to

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<v Speaker 4>redesign systems to do something completely different that the movie

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<v Speaker 4>did brilliantly. As the folks back on Earth were trying

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out how do we have them build a

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<v Speaker 4>filter to get all the carbon dioxide out of the capsule,

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<v Speaker 4>and they literally took a tube from this, a box

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<v Speaker 4>from that, some cloth from that, and said, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>plug this in. And they conducted these experiments, created this

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<v Speaker 4>technology out of nothing in the space of like thirty

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<v Speaker 4>six hours, working frantically around the clock. So I would suggest,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, watch the movie and the document and then

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<v Speaker 4>a nonspiring story.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Tom Hanks dies of aids or is that

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<v Speaker 2>a different movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Different movie, another fine film, though he and Jenny get together.

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<v Speaker 4>I will also make this point if you're done with

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<v Speaker 4>your inanities. And this is kind of a leading It

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<v Speaker 4>was interesting that mission control, the virtually everyone involved was

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<v Speaker 4>a white man.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is why against the I won't recognize the moon landing,

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<v Speaker 2>and and we as a society of you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you come a long way in involving the best

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<v Speaker 2>and brightest, no matter what they look like.

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<v Speaker 4>On the other hand, it was also undeniable that all

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<v Speaker 4>of those white fellas were brilliant, hardworking, creative, responsible, compassionate.

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<v Speaker 2>And virtually everything you could want from.

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<v Speaker 4>A human being. So hey, here's an idea. Let's not

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<v Speaker 4>demonize people because of the color of their skin. We

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<v Speaker 4>used to agree on that, which brings us to Matt

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<v Speaker 4>Walsh's hilarious and uncomfortable new m I Racist, which is

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<v Speaker 4>very enjoyable. It's I think the number four movie around

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<v Speaker 4>the country or sometimes is it really a top five

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<v Speaker 4>top five box office? No kidding yet got no reviews

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<v Speaker 4>zero And that was actually the topic of Matt's recent

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<v Speaker 4>Twitter thread. Many of you have asked how it's possible

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<v Speaker 4>that our new film, am I Racist hasn't been reviewed

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<v Speaker 4>by a single mainstream critic, even with a ninety nine

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<v Speaker 4>percent audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you do something similar to the other direction like

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<v Speaker 3>Bowling from Columbine that's from the Left and the Michael

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<v Speaker 3>Moore any of the Michael Moore movies. Not only does

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<v Speaker 3>it get endless reviews, it wins Oscars.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yep, top five box office debut. Beginning in August,

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<v Speaker 4>we reached out to dozens of mainstream out let's offering

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<v Speaker 4>an early screener of the film. These outlets included Time, AP, Indie, Wier, Variety, THHR,

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<v Speaker 4>Times New Yorker, and A bunch more all the usual

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<v Speaker 4>suspect You know what I'm going to name some of

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<v Speaker 4>the usual suspects. Oh, that's that's the list. Okay, blah

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>We did not a single one responded and said they

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<v Speaker 2>would review the movie.

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<v Speaker 4>We did, however, that yeah, follow it up to virtual silence,

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<v Speaker 4>So they bugged him again and said, hey, did you

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<v Speaker 4>get our package and everything? And virtual silence. We did, however,

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<v Speaker 4>receive a flurry of unprofessional emails from independent critics who

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<v Speaker 4>were enraged we'd even.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask them to review the film.

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<v Speaker 4>One of them the wrote that he wouldn't waste any

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<v Speaker 4>professional time on a movie opening in over fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 4>theaters because I was involved. R it's Matt Walsh. Let's see,

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<v Speaker 4>here's the note. Wahaha absolutely not hardest decline. I will

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<v Speaker 4>not waste a second of my life on Matt Walsh.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 4>Another critics said you'd have to strap me to a

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<v Speaker 4>chair like Malcolm McDowell. Let's say clockwork orange reference to

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 4>get me to watch this thing. Another wrote, you take

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<v Speaker 4>me off this list. After it was clear that am

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<v Speaker 4>I Racist was a hit, Variety attempted to cover for

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<v Speaker 4>this oversight with a claim that Daily Wire did not

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<v Speaker 4>screen the movie for critics. We've asked them to correct this,

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<v Speaker 4>but they have not. They still haven't posted a review,

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<v Speaker 4>but I hope they will a few other mainstream outlets

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<v Speaker 4>have since requested screeners but have yet to publish a review.

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<v Speaker 4>One major mainstream outlet even acknowledged we had attempted to

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<v Speaker 4>get them at advanced screener, but said the film had

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<v Speaker 4>slipped through the cracks. This isn't a mistake. You'd be

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<v Speaker 4>hard pressed to find another film that opened in fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>more than fifteen hundred theaters that was completely snubbed by

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<v Speaker 4>mainstream critics.

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<v Speaker 2>If Am I Racist were terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>These outlets could have reviewed it and trashed it, But

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<v Speaker 4>the reality is they're afraid of it. Am I Racist

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<v Speaker 4>been so successful because we specifically because we didn't churn

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<v Speaker 4>out another ste predictable Hollywood style film blah blah, blah blah,

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<v Speaker 4>one last thing. Rolling Stone was one of the first

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<v Speaker 4>outlets to request the screener for the review after the

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<v Speaker 4>movie was announced back in July. They've yet to post

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<v Speaker 4>a review, which is a bummer because I was looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward to theirs. Most of all, I've said many times,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a huge growing awareness of how the woke thing

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<v Speaker 4>and critical race theory and radical gender theory and queer theory,

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<v Speaker 4>the transgender thing it's all neo Marxism with different guys

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<v Speaker 4>as different faces, but it's all intent on tearing down

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<v Speaker 4>Western civilization and putting those people in charge. We are

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the beginning, not the beginning of

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<v Speaker 4>the end. Here is a really well done, controversial, but

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<v Speaker 4>extremely relevant movie that they're so.

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<v Speaker 2>Afraid of they won't even review.

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<v Speaker 4>It to trash it. They pretend it doesn't exist. We've

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<v Speaker 4>barely begun the fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Friends Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty The Armstrong and Getty

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<v Speaker 1>Show m