Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to the Second Date Podcast. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for being here. If you haven't caught on to
Speaker 1: our schedule, because maybe you're not here enough. Tuesdays we
Speaker 1: do awkward Tuesday phone call, and then Thursdays is kind
Speaker 1: of a grab bag, you know. Yeah, sometimes it's sexual healing.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's an update.
Speaker 2: Updates, sometimes it's whatever our boss just feels like throwing
Speaker 2: us into that day. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but today is a closure call. And if you
Speaker 1: don't know how these work, someone will email us about
Speaker 1: a relationship or a situationship that had a fallen out right,
Speaker 1: and it's maybe been months, sometimes it's been years. We've
Speaker 1: had even decades where they haven't talked to each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're trying to get a higher fifty years,
Speaker 3: one hundred years.
Speaker 4: For us dramatic.
Speaker 1: Well that first works with our producer to get back
Speaker 1: into contact and ask the questions that they've been thinking
Speaker 1: about forever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can hear the answer totally.
Speaker 1: It can be pretty dramatic. And we've got one for
Speaker 1: you today. Hey, thanks for in here. It's Brook and
Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 5: In a couple of minutes, we're gonna do a brand
Speaker 5: new closure call. Here, which if you haven't heard, is
Speaker 5: a segment where we help a listener send four questions
Speaker 5: to a previous friend or lover or someone they had
Speaker 5: a falling out with to get some answers so that
Speaker 5: they can finally move forward with their life.
Speaker 1: It's a really amazing segment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, at least that's the hope that we're going
Speaker 4: to help them.
Speaker 5: But this may be the first time in the show's
Speaker 5: history the listener doesn't even want to hear all of
Speaker 5: the answers. After we read the first two it was
Speaker 5: that shocking and surprising and embarrassing. All those emotions plus
Speaker 5: a few more tossed in for the mix, you're gonna
Speaker 5: hear why when we do a brand new closure call
Speaker 5: right after this, it's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 5: And sometimes in order to move forward in life, yeah,
Speaker 5: first you have to look backwards.
Speaker 1: That's true, jeff kind.
Speaker 5: Of like a moonwalk in a way, looking back, but
Speaker 5: moving forward.
Speaker 1: It a really cool Yeah.
Speaker 5: That's kind of the idea of this segment called closure Calls, where,
Speaker 5: if you haven't heard it before, we try to help
Speaker 5: a listener get some answers and hopefully peace of mind
Speaker 5: on an issue.
Speaker 4: From their past that's been haunting them.
Speaker 1: Some of these get really deep too. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And recently, one of our listeners asked for our
Speaker 5: assistance getting some closure.
Speaker 4: Her name is Jody.
Speaker 1: Keep wanting me to do this?
Speaker 5: Heye, Jody wants to go full Michael Jackson today.
Speaker 4: So, Jody, welcome to the show.
Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jody, we're all so interested in what brought you here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's going on in your life that made you
Speaker 4: reach out to us?
Speaker 6: Okay, it's so strange. So, my husband and I used
Speaker 6: to live in this amazing neighborhood. Absolutely loved it.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 6: Yes, it was everything. And our next door neighbors, the Coopers,
Speaker 6: they were like our best friends, our families. We did
Speaker 6: everything together. We had birthdays, barbecues, you know, we watched
Speaker 6: the other's passively, went on vacation, everything broke.
Speaker 4: How jealous are you of those neighbors.
Speaker 1: No, I love my neighbors. I have the best neighbors.
Speaker 5: Honestly, you literally like have disputes with them all the time.
Speaker 5: You're trying to buy their property out from them.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the guy with the abandoned cars right
Speaker 1: next to me. Yeah, it's great to make granola.
Speaker 3: She doesn't consider him a neighbor where she's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 1: I love that guy too. He's got two kids that
Speaker 1: live about an hour. You want to know more about.
Speaker 5: Him, No, let's focus more on Jody and her neighbors,
Speaker 5: the Coopers. It's nice to have a family next door
Speaker 5: to you that you actually like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but here's where the twist comes, and it's unfortunate.
Speaker 6: We basically our house burnt down. My gosh, yeah, absolutely everything.
Speaker 6: It was horrible.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Wait was it the Coopers that did it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, we're asking them why.
Speaker 6: No, they were like, they were really supportive. Actually they
Speaker 6: helped us get through all of it. They helped us
Speaker 6: put our life back together. But yeah, we couldn't afford
Speaker 6: to like stay and rebuild the house, so we were
Speaker 6: forced to move, which we really did not want to
Speaker 6: because again, just love where we lived.
Speaker 1: Do you build all those relationships for so long, dude,
Speaker 1: in all the memories and you know that's hard, that
Speaker 1: must be really hard.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was awful. But we found a house like
Speaker 6: forty five minutes away from there, and you know, we
Speaker 6: had to do what we had to do. And we
Speaker 6: stayed in touch with them for a couple of months. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: and then one day they just stopped responding, like they
Speaker 6: wouldn't answer any of my phone calls, they stopped inviting us.
Speaker 1: Wait did their house burn down to.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, that's weird.
Speaker 4: Sorry, who was setting all the fires? Sorry? What were
Speaker 4: you saying? They stopped answering you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they stopped answering, like you know, I tried multiple times,
Speaker 6: no explanation at all, you know, just completely cut off
Speaker 6: communication and really for you and.
Speaker 1: Your husband, like they have zero contact.
Speaker 6: Yeah, zero. It's so strange.
Speaker 5: That is really weird. What was going through your mind
Speaker 5: when that started happening?
Speaker 6: We did not know. We went over this so many times,
Speaker 6: and like I understand, like we don't live next door
Speaker 6: to them anymore, but yeah, I mean, why why I
Speaker 6: completely cut us out?
Speaker 1: You know, like and they're still living there in that
Speaker 1: same neighborhood and everything.
Speaker 6: Okay, So I was curious. I was like, well, maybe
Speaker 6: they moved, you know, like, yes, maybe something happened to them.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I think a year and a half after I
Speaker 6: decided to drive back, you know, to see if they
Speaker 6: even still live there, and I didn't bring the doorbell
Speaker 6: or anything, but their car was in the driveway.
Speaker 5: Okay, so they're still around in the same house at least,
Speaker 5: but for some reason totally cut all communication with your family.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so strange. And it's been over four years,
Speaker 6: and the thing is is that I still think about it,
Speaker 6: like I just wish we could get some of that
Speaker 6: old friendship that you know. Yeah, it would be really
Speaker 6: great to reconnect our children again and all that, but
Speaker 6: it's just something that like lingers in my mind.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, and like even for me, like
Speaker 1: I grew up in the same house my whole life,
Speaker 1: and our neighbors growing up are like second family.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, you guys.
Speaker 4: Marry each other too.
Speaker 5: But is there any like drama between your families in
Speaker 5: that time or something fight or maybe an affair that
Speaker 5: you had with someone casually drop that one something like that.
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: Absolutely no, okay, at least not that you're gonna admit to.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you think your kid may have done something? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, because sometimes like if kids fight or it
Speaker 1: can cause parents to fight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the kid will be like, well my mom
Speaker 3: said this, and it's like playing telephone.
Speaker 6: They I mean, sure, that's the possibility. It's one of
Speaker 6: those things where like we have as a family all
Speaker 6: sat down multiple times at dinner and talked about this,
Speaker 6: like he does anyone have any idea of why it's happening?
Speaker 1: And everyone's no, Yeah, why do the Coopers hate you?
Speaker 3: I would say, maybe they and this is gonna come
Speaker 3: out wrong, so I apologize. Maybe they think they're better
Speaker 3: than you, like we don't talk to them because they
Speaker 3: moved out of the neighborhood. But then I go, you've
Speaker 3: known them for so long you would know if they
Speaker 3: were shallow white.
Speaker 1: See I was saying in the opposite where maybe they're jealous.
Speaker 1: Maybe your new situation is that they they always wanted,
Speaker 1: probably not on status.
Speaker 3: I mean, they just moved.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Brook won't talk to us because of where we live.
Speaker 5: Sometimes we're not allowed over on her fancy island. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but Joe, do you know how this works. You've already
Speaker 5: worked with our producer to come with the four questions,
Speaker 5: and we've told you the Coopers have responded, Oh my god,
Speaker 5: are you nervous about hearing from them?
Speaker 4: After how long has it.
Speaker 6: Been now it's been over four years.
Speaker 4: Wow, are you nervous.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm I'm curious more than anything.
Speaker 1: It seems like this could be something resolved. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe if they explain then their you two can come
Speaker 1: to some understanding and rebuild this friendship.
Speaker 4: I agree with Broke.
Speaker 3: I do think if it was one of the kids, especially,
Speaker 3: it's like yeah, no, no, nos, misunderstanding.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just get rid of that kid and then everything's happen.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna do it.
Speaker 5: We'll read the answers from your neighbors that ghosted your
Speaker 5: family five years ago when we do your closure call.
Speaker 4: Right after this just joining us.
Speaker 5: We're in the middle of a closure call, and it's
Speaker 5: an interesting one because I don't know if we've ever
Speaker 5: done anything quite like this before with two sets of
Speaker 5: neighbors whose families were very close. And our listener, Jody,
Speaker 5: who's on the phone with us, is the mother of
Speaker 5: one family. Her house sadly burned down years ago, so they.
Speaker 4: Had to move away.
Speaker 5: Yeah, forty five minutes from where they originally lived. Shortly
Speaker 5: after they lost all contact with this other family who
Speaker 5: used to basically be their best friends.
Speaker 1: It's not like, yeah, moved even to a different state.
Speaker 1: You're like forty five it's not that not that dramatic,
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'd say, when my parents only lived forty five minutes away,
Speaker 3: I never saw.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were away.
Speaker 5: But it's been very confusing for Jody because she doesn't
Speaker 5: know why they cut off all contact and want some closure,
Speaker 5: hence the term closure call.
Speaker 4: Oh wow.
Speaker 5: For this joke, and Jody, I know you want to
Speaker 5: get to the answers. We're gonna get those in just
Speaker 5: a second. Brook Do you have any final thoughts?
Speaker 1: No, I think it's just interesting. You know, you said
Speaker 1: these people were really there for you after your house fire,
Speaker 1: so I mean, I could see them turning their back
Speaker 1: on you if you needed help, but that that's not
Speaker 1: even the case here. You know they did that for you.
Speaker 6: It sounds like, right, yeah, they were great.
Speaker 1: So strange.
Speaker 5: Well, if your new house burns down, you can always
Speaker 5: live in the basement of Brooks Current.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, my husband works down there, so just don't mind, Tim,
Speaker 1: We'll always have a backup. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Alright, So let's get to the first question.
Speaker 5: Okay, we wrote it's been almost five years since we
Speaker 5: spoke to each other. That's so long, and I've tried
Speaker 5: to text you and send you letters and birthday invites,
Speaker 5: but you never responded. Our friendship was so important to me.
Speaker 5: It makes me so sad that we don't speak anymore.
Speaker 5: Do you even still live at the same house?
Speaker 1: Wait, don't we know that because you did the secret
Speaker 1: drive by.
Speaker 6: I mean that was three years ago though, so I
Speaker 6: mean she could have moved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5: So the coopers responded and they said, hi, Jody, nice
Speaker 5: to hear from you. Yes, we're still at the same address.
Speaker 5: Kids are getting bigger, hope you were well oh.
Speaker 6: Wow, okay, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It did feel like when you get the text K
Speaker 1: that a felt the same.
Speaker 3: I'mnowledged, but I'm not really how do you feel how
Speaker 3: do you feel about that answer?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean it's it doesn't really say much. I
Speaker 6: was saying I felt so sad that we weren't in
Speaker 6: touch anymore, and they gave me like a one sentence
Speaker 6: nothing response, you.
Speaker 4: Know, trying to blow you off.
Speaker 1: I like how you were saying you were so sad
Speaker 1: in the question, and she's like glad.
Speaker 5: You're well yeah, so yeah, not much of a response
Speaker 5: on that first one, but good thing we asked more questions.
Speaker 1: Because they did respond to the rest of the questions.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and this isn't an auto reply. They're all different.
Speaker 5: Just so you know, it's so funny.
Speaker 4: Just like she said, I am out of the office.
Speaker 1: Do we know who's actually writing us? Is it the
Speaker 1: other mother from the other family.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: It doesn't say on it. Okay, all right, let's keep
Speaker 5: going to question two. Hopefully we'll get a little bit
Speaker 5: more clarification. We said, after being so close for so long,
Speaker 5: it's always been confusing to me why you stopped responding
Speaker 5: to us. I've spent nights trying to figure this out.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if something happened or what changed. Is
Speaker 5: there a reason you cut us out?
Speaker 3: This is only the second question.
Speaker 4: That's like the.
Speaker 3: Question in my head.
Speaker 6: I'm so interested to see how they're gonna respond.
Speaker 5: You know, this is the crux of what we're trying
Speaker 5: to get to here, and.
Speaker 1: You and our producer wrote that question really well. I'm
Speaker 1: serious because he helps her with all of this. I
Speaker 1: think it's really well written. Yeah, why you laughed?
Speaker 3: Be serious because our producers a funny guy, so I
Speaker 3: thought you were making a joke.
Speaker 5: No, So let's get to the answer that they wrote.
Speaker 5: Back for the reason that they cut you out. They wrote, well,
Speaker 5: it's pretty simple, Jodie.
Speaker 4: Oh, we donated.
Speaker 5: Two thousand dollars to your family's go fundme with the
Speaker 5: expectation it would go towards building your life back, not
Speaker 5: building your chest size. Apparently one of the neighbors said,
Speaker 5: you got a breast enhancement after your house burned down.
Speaker 5: Plus your family took a trip to the Bahamas. So
Speaker 5: I think you could understand why we're not speaking dot
Speaker 5: dot dot.
Speaker 4: That looks so bad.
Speaker 6: Oh whoa, Oh, okay, look, this is what I can
Speaker 6: say about that. I was going through a lot at
Speaker 6: the time. Yeah, and doing that made me feel better
Speaker 6: about myself and it did help me build my life back.
Speaker 6: It gave me confidence.
Speaker 1: You use the GoFundMe money to do a breast and
Speaker 1: new monthly payments.
Speaker 4: Maybe she didn't do it all at once. I mean
Speaker 4: we did.
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't really want to like get into
Speaker 6: this really like, but.
Speaker 1: That's the whole it's the whole reason she's not talking
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: A trip to the Bahamas. Are we gonna ignore that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, you got to show off your new books so
Speaker 1: much it gets cold.
Speaker 5: Out the Coopers are accusing you of taking the money
Speaker 5: that they gave you to like rebuild your new life
Speaker 5: in your new house for personal things.
Speaker 1: Well not just them my bed. I mean, if it's
Speaker 1: a GoFundMe, probably other people's money too.
Speaker 6: We used a majority of the GoFundMe to get our
Speaker 6: new house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you use the insurance money to get
Speaker 1: a new house?
Speaker 6: That went into it? It was very expensive getting a new
Speaker 6: I mean we literally lost every single thing. Yeah, it's
Speaker 6: like we did deserve a trip to Like my kids
Speaker 6: were so devastated.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if it makes you smile, it makes you happy,
Speaker 5: I guess it's worth buildings stuff.
Speaker 1: Ask after this because we had no idea.
Speaker 4: Running out of time, we need to move on to
Speaker 4: question three.
Speaker 6: You know what, I honestly don't think we need to.
Speaker 6: I think, like I'm thinking, okay, the same Jeff.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know if we should be
Speaker 3: on the phone.
Speaker 4: Sorry, but this is how it works. We go through
Speaker 4: all four. So I'm just gonna go to the third question.
Speaker 5: Let's finish the segment. For everybody listening that tuned in,
Speaker 5: it says question three. I'm not sure if you heard,
Speaker 5: but I left my nine to five job, and I'm
Speaker 5: now working with a charity to help raise money to
Speaker 5: support teachers around the country. You've always been so generous.
Speaker 5: I'm hoping you'd consider contributing to.
Speaker 1: Question. Are you joking?
Speaker 6: I just jody, Yeah, but that is my job now.
Speaker 6: And I didn't know that she was gonna say what
Speaker 6: she just said.
Speaker 1: Girl, Well you used fun race. No.
Speaker 6: I was just trying to give him an update on
Speaker 6: my life and what I was doing.
Speaker 5: Okay, I mean working with charity is a really good
Speaker 5: noble cause.
Speaker 4: If it actually he does go to the charity.
Speaker 1: Maybe sending teachers to the Bahamas.
Speaker 4: Surgery.
Speaker 5: Well, let's hear what the Coopers wrote back to that
Speaker 5: ask for money for your charity. They said, as stated before,
Speaker 5: I hope you're well, Yeah, but you know we will
Speaker 5: not be contributing to your quote charity or any future endeavors.
Speaker 4: Now we see why.
Speaker 5: The first I hope you're well felt bad, and now
Speaker 5: I understand what you didn't want us to read questions
Speaker 5: for it.
Speaker 1: They put charity it quotes.
Speaker 5: Yet we're almost done. We have to do the fourth
Speaker 5: and final question that you sent to them.
Speaker 4: We do have to.
Speaker 5: We wrote it's been way too long and we miss
Speaker 5: you guys so much. We'd love to get together sometime
Speaker 5: and reconnect the families after we know what we know.
Speaker 5: We said, do you think you'd be up for it?
Speaker 5: And the Coopers wrote back, as stated multiple times before,
Speaker 5: I hope you are well this yeah, being.
Speaker 3: Left on red yikes?
Speaker 6: Sorry, thank you?
Speaker 1: That's it, Joy, Joe.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like you got some closure from that?
Speaker 6: I want to hang up, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't try to hit Yeah, I just yea, make
Speaker 1: some new friends. Probably maybe no more gofundmes for a while.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm sure they'd like to see a Christmas card of
Speaker 5: you and like what all that money went towards, So
Speaker 5: maybe that would be.
Speaker 1: Kind of nice. That's not funny chat.
Speaker 4: But okay, I think that's funny anyway. Hopefully that helped you.
Speaker 4: That's your closure call. And Jeffrey in the morning and
Speaker 4: Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 1: Well, that definitely did not go the way I think
Speaker 1: she thought it was going to go. No, no chance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thank.
Speaker 1: You for being here all the way through our closure call. Uh.
Speaker 1: And we do have a lot of comments, a lot
Speaker 1: of reflections on what just happened on our comment board.
Speaker 1: And our YouTube comments.
Speaker 2: Yeah, board, I mean a lot of people are obviously
Speaker 2: mad that she used like gofund me as a scam,
Speaker 2: like for sure, So.
Speaker 1: I mean, how many of the gofund means do you
Speaker 1: think are scams?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: I've never even thought about it.
Speaker 1: Like that, Brooks. Start your homework. You do the homework,
Speaker 1: and you got to know the person, Like if you
Speaker 1: know the person also really wants a trip to the Bahamas,
Speaker 1: I gotta be aware, yes, or if they come back
Speaker 1: with the taan and.
Speaker 4: For surgery they do.
Speaker 1: That, they're now bens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some other ones. We got hashtag team Cooper.
Speaker 2: She hung up at the end. I love how Jeff
Speaker 2: didn't know it is Yeah, omg, she had to do
Speaker 2: this call.
Speaker 1: To figure out why they would be mad.
Speaker 2: Should I use the extra money to have a housewarming
Speaker 2: party to thank everyone? Maybe help someone else in need?
Speaker 2: Maybe ask people what they want done with the extra Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1: To pass it on, right, Like it's not good carbon
Speaker 1: to then spend the extra money on something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that money and send someone else to the Bahamas
Speaker 3: to yeah experienced.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe get a butt lift. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Hey, thank you so much again for being
Speaker 1: here please subscribe. It means the world and we'll be
Speaker 1: back tomorrow with a second date update. It's Brooke and
Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the morning.