1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Official plot is presented by went Beat Betting of the 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: team sport. But together at win Bet, we're gonna get 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: this thing started in proper fashion. We're at the NFL 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Combine in Indianapolis. We're joined by NFL Networks Daniel Jeremiah DJ. 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: What has the past couple months been like you? For 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: you preparing for the draft? Now I'll sleep, But it's fun. 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: I love it. You know, this is I kind of 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: joked on the conference, called it the day. You know, 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: you spend all this time watching these guys, and you know, 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: nobody my family wants to hear about these players. So 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's gay. Let's talk. Let's talk about 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: some of these draft prospects, because it's all I've been 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: doing for the last few months. All right, So we're 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: gonna talk a lot about the draft. But let's start 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: with the Jets in the quarterback position. They're not going 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: to be looking for a young quarterback. They're searching for 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback. Who do you think makes the most 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: sense for this team? Well, you know, I think you 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: can make a case, you know, for several of these guys. 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: You know, for me, I'm because I'm such a hoarder 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: of picks and love the draft so much. I like 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: the option of Car because I feel like you get 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: the veteran quarterback it it doesn't cost you in terms 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: of the draft picks, and then it's not costing you 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: as quite as much as it will cost on the 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: Rodgers front. And I think there's a little more of 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: a runway there where you could have a few more 28 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: years with him in the fold. So that's kind of 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: my my I've seen a lot of Car doing the 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: Charger games over the last few years, and they have 31 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: had a terrible defense since he's been there. So I 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: think he's a good player. I like the cost, and 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: I like the fact that you maintain your draft picks. Potentially. 34 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: What do you think about the fit in the system 35 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator here with the Jets and Nathaniel Hackett. Yeah, 36 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: I think he fits, you know, I you know, Cars, 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: he's really a talented player and he can move, so 38 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: he can do a lot of different things that in 39 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: that way. So I don't think there's anything that they 40 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: do in that system that he wouldn't be comfortable with. 41 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: That's just, you know, in my opinion. Now you could say, 42 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: obviously Aaron Rodgers. You know, in a short spurt here 43 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: for a year or two years, the ceiling is higher 44 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: and you can play at a very very high level. 45 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: But again it's it's gonna be expensive. Yeah, no doubt 46 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: about that. Is your sense that Rogers going to play 47 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: next year? I don't know once, you know, I don't. 48 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: I've never met anybody that went to a darkness retreat before, 49 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: so I don't know how you come out of that thing. 50 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: I thought, from a marketing standpoint, it was it would 51 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: have been a great move if he was going to 52 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: go to the Raiders. You know, you come right out 53 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: of the darkness retreat, right into the black hole. I 54 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: thought it would have been an easy sales pitch there 55 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: from a marketing standpoint, But I had no idea. Well said, okay, 56 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: So as far as the Jets are concerned, they got 57 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: to make some decisions, just like all thirty two clubs 58 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: have to when you start free agency. But when you're 59 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: looking at this team's list of needs, where do you 60 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: start after quarterback? Well, obviously you start with quarterback, and 61 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: to me, I think the you know, it's back to 62 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: the offensive line, and you know, gosh, I hope that 63 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: McKay comes back healthy and we get to see him 64 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: at his best because he's an elite, elite talent when 65 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: he's out there, you know, get very Tucker back healthy, 66 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: and his flexibility gives you some options there of whether 67 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: you want to try and find another tackle, you want 68 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: to try and find an interior player, and then you 69 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: have a free agent center. So to me, it's it's again, 70 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: it's it's been kind of the focus for a few 71 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: years now. I feel like the skill has is in 72 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: pretty good shape. Now it's quarterback, and now it's you know, 73 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: not only you know, getting a starter or two up 74 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: front along the defensive line, just continuing with the depth 75 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: and maybe because gosh, there's no team that's been hit 76 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: with O line injuries quite like they have the last 77 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: few years. Jets had a great rookie season from their 78 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: entire twenty twenty two class. Looking back after year one, 79 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: where would you rank that class amongst everybody? Oh, my gosh, yeah, 80 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: it's not it's the best one. I mean, there's there's 81 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: other teams that got a lot of really good players. 82 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: Seattle had a great draft and they've helped turn their 83 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: organization around in one draft, did a really nice job 84 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: that Detroit had a really nice draft. But you know, 85 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: and you just look at what they did with the 86 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: Jets and gosh, if Brees Hall stays healthy, you're talking about, 87 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: in my opinion, the three best rookies in the NFL 88 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: and one draft. And you know, when when the draft 89 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: took place and these picks are rolling in saying it 90 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: on the broadcasting, they got the best receiver in the draft, 91 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: they got the best running back in the draft, they 92 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: got the best corner in the draft, they got one 93 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: of the best edge dressers in the draft. And so 94 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, the only thing that kept Germaine's production down 95 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: was the fact they're so deep, because it didn't get 96 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: a chance to play as much. When he was out there, 97 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: he made meaningful plays. So yeah, they hit a home run. 98 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: And then all the way through I mean Max Mitchell 99 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: when he was out there about because you mentioned McKay before, 100 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: the Jets thought Mitchell was going to be a project, 101 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: That's what Robert Salas said on draft weekend. But the 102 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: guy comes in early on and he's forced in a 103 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: starting royal and he performed. Yeah, he played well. So 104 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: again that's why I think guys like that give you 105 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, with Vera. Tucker's versatility allows you to just 106 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: get your best five out there. But you know, it's 107 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: almost like the old adage you can't have enough corners. Um. 108 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: I think with offensive line right now, just specifically with 109 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: the Jets, you can't have enough. Like you know, just 110 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: be in a position where you can you can navigate 111 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: whatever injuries coming your way during the season. And I 112 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: think Joe's background, you know, with the Eagles and how 113 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: they've done it where they've got, you know, first round 114 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: picks that aren't starting along that offensive line because they 115 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: have so much depth. I think that's the goal. So 116 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: how do you rate the tackles in this class because 117 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people, including yourself, who have the unenviable 118 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: task of doing mock drafts. So early on you got 119 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: the Jets goal and tackle, but it seems like there's 120 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: a top three if separated themselves. Yeah, you know, to me, 121 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: Peter Scronsky's the best one from Northwestern. I think he 122 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: can hold up and play tackle. My comparison actually is 123 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: Elijah ba Tucker. You know, so in AVT when he 124 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: kicked out the tackle was fine, showed that he could 125 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: play it, so he might end up being an All 126 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: pro guard once all said and done. But I think 127 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: he can play tackle and I think he's the best 128 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: tackle in this draft. And then after that, you've got 129 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: two really intriguing guys with big, big ceilings, high ceilings 130 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: with Roderick Jones from Georgia and then Paris Johnson from 131 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: Ohio State. They each have different things they need to 132 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: work on. They're not perfect players, but I think the 133 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: upside with him is tremendous. And then I would say 134 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: darn Right is kind of he's working his way into 135 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: this conversation from Tennessee. He played really really well at 136 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: right tackle for them this year. He had played on 137 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: the left previously a little bit of a mixed performance there, 138 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: but last year at the right side did great. Goes 139 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: to Senior Bowl, has a really nice week there. I 140 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: mean he's huge, just three hundred and forty pounds you 141 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: can move. I think he's he's working his way into 142 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: that conversation. Jets are an interesting spot at the linebacker 143 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: position because CJ. Moulesley of course a Pro Bowl season, 144 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: he was great last year. Kwana Alexander unrestrictive free agent 145 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: explinering contract, as is Quincy Williams. When you look at 146 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: the linebacker depth in this draft. What jumps out at you. Well, 147 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: I think there's some interesting guys in the third round range, 148 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: and I think that's kind of the sweet spot. I 149 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: called the Charger Games for the radio, and they're a 150 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: great example of this. Wherein the fourth round, I think 151 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: they got Kaiser White. You know, four or five years ago, 152 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: he played well, they let him walk, he goes, you know, 153 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: leaves and free agency, got a pretty nice paid day, 154 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: and then they replaced him with the fourth round pick 155 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: and Drew trink Led, an Dame who's played really well. 156 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: He'll probably leave this year in free agency. Like I 157 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: think it's one of those positions where you can find 158 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: him in the middle of the draft. Um, you get 159 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: the most out of him you possibly can, and then 160 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: you let somebody else pay him. You know, that's kind 161 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: of been the format at that position right now. What 162 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: about the center position. You just mentioned Connor mcgovernor before. 163 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: He's been very durable for the Jets. He's got an 164 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: expiring contract. Well to see how free agency unfolds there. 165 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: But when you look at the draft, what do you 166 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: think about the position? I think it's I think there's 167 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: some good ones. I think it's top heavy and not 168 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: a lot of them. So, um, you know, you look 169 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: at Tipman from Wisconsin's a really good player. You go 170 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: to it seems like they're all the Midwest. You go 171 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: to Minnesota and John Michael Schmidtz who did a really 172 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: nice job at the Reesas Senior Bowl. He's a plug 173 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: and play guy. Steve a Vila from from TCU's played guard, 174 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: he can play center. Those are those are some some 175 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: really good center options that you could plug in. I 176 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: think would be ready to play right away. How early 177 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: are those guys gonna go? I think that that's you know, 178 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: that group of interior offensive lineman is gonna go. I 179 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: think you'll see a couple of them go late first 180 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: and then you'll see I mentioned all those guys are 181 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: gone by pick forty. All right, So, like I told 182 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: you before you came on, I was listening to your 183 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: conference called last night before I want the bad catch 184 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: it up on the draft, you said eleven tight ends 185 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: right now in the top three rounds. Possibly the way 186 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: you have that graded right now? Have you ever seen 187 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: a draft class? It's the best. It's the best tight 188 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: end group I've seen. And you know I always want 189 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: to make sure that I point that out when you 190 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: say you have When I say I have third round grades, 191 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: that means this year in the fifth round and maybe 192 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: even into the sixth round, could get you could get 193 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: one of those guys. They're not all going to go 194 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: on the top three rounds, but they're they're top three 195 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: round caliber players. And the way they are, you know, 196 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: the great scale I operate off of works is these 197 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: are potential starters like these are the chance to be 198 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: your number one tight end. It's just an insane number 199 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: of guys and how many at the end of the 200 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: day you think are going in the first round. Well, 201 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: that's what I'm curious about it. I think that we'll 202 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: see three of them go. But there's also they could 203 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: be punished because of their depth, where teams are going 204 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: to say, you know what, this tight ends a little 205 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: bit better player than this tackle. But man, we feel 206 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: like we can get the tight end in the third 207 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: round or the fourth round, and we better get the 208 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: tackle now. So we'll take the tackle first and push 209 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: the tight ends down the board. I think sometimes that 210 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: happens when you have a deep position like that, they 211 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: get punished for their own success. What did you think 212 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: about Jeremy rutger coming out and what are your expectations 213 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: for him moving forward, Because when I heard you talk 214 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: about tight end, I thought about the Jets and the 215 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: production they got from the veterans in c. J Uzama, 216 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: Tyler Conklin, and more production from that position than they've 217 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: had in the past ten years. And then you're talking 218 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: about rutgerd who's a highly athletic dude who came out 219 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: had the foot injury, but the Jets were talking awfully 220 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: high of him late in the year. Yeah, because I 221 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: think he helped you in the run game too. You know, 222 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: he's a complete tight end. He can he can block. 223 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: You know, I look at that group and I think 224 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: they're They have a lot of really solid players in 225 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: that tight end room. And as you mentioned the production, 226 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's been such a weak position for so long. 227 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: The production was in a good shape. But I don't 228 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: think there's a guy when you play the Jets at 229 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: the tight end position that you circle and say, oh gosh, 230 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: we gotta stop this guy. Like they don't have a 231 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: big time difference making tight end, which in the league 232 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: right now I think is the most favorable matchup to 233 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: an offense is a tight end. When you get a 234 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: good tight end, safeties can't match up with them because 235 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: they're too big, and linebackers can't move around with them. 236 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: So I think it's the best matchup on the field. 237 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 1: And if you can go find somebody you think is 238 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: a difference maker and you know it's a blue ship player, 239 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: I still think that's an area. I wouldn't be shocked 240 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: if they went back into that. Well how early would 241 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: you go out into that, Well, Well, it depends on 242 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: how you have him graded, you know, but if you're 243 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: trying to take this offense to another level, that's a 244 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: piece that they don't have. You know, they have good 245 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: players that position, they do not have a blue Ship player. 246 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: So with the depth of this class, maybe that's something 247 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: you do in the you know, in the third round, 248 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: fourth round. You know Joe Douglas awfully Well, what are 249 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the way he's built this thing. We 250 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: talked about the draft class last year or the Jets 251 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: had to have a home run. They did get that 252 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: home run. Now we're talking about landing a quarterback. How 253 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: close is this team right now? I think they're very close. 254 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean you can look at when they were healthy, 255 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: you know, and everybody can even say, gosh, they were 256 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: only a quarterback away. I would argue and say that 257 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: they were health away from making the playoffs last year. 258 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: If they were just healthy, even though you weren't getting 259 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: great play at the quarterback position, I think they would 260 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: have still gotten to the postseason. So those are the 261 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: two things they have to figure out. They've got to 262 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: figure out the quarterback and get that right. I'm confident 263 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: they'll be able to do that. And then they've got 264 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: to just keep these guys healthy. You know, if they 265 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: can keep their their A level players healthy, this is 266 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: as talented a young team as we have in the league. 267 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: A DJ, A busy week for you, Thanks so much 268 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: for stopping by. A last question, Yeah, Machado deal you pomped. 269 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: And also what do you think about the pitch clock? 270 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: I love I'm as patter fan. You always want to 271 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: keep your great players. Now, I'm just curious to see 272 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: how many hundreds and millions of dollars are gonna give Soto, 273 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: because I'm sure the way that we're going we're not 274 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: gonna let him leave either. But the pitch clock, I 275 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: didn't know about it. I loved it. Yeah, I loved it. 276 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: The game was just moving. It was great. So the 277 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: one thing I'm curious about is I go to a 278 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: lot of games and I feel like I'm gonna be 279 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: nervous to get up and go get some food. Yeah, 280 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: because I'm a mis twinnings. So that's the only thing 281 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: We'll be watching you this weekend. Thanks Buddy, good to 282 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: see man, Jets fans. We're in our final push and 283 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: the clock is ticking. 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The best part, 292 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: you get an entry for every one hundred dollars you wager. 293 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: Fisher Jets Podcast is presented by Bett Betting is a 294 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: team sport, but together at win bet Eric Ellen here 295 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis at the NFL Combine, joined by Jeremy Foller 296 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: of ESPN. Jeremy, before we just started taping, he said, Hey, 297 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: America needs the Jets to be good. They're right there though, 298 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: aren't they. Yes, they are close, and it's just a 299 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: good story, right, Like it's a huge market. It's a 300 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: fan base that stretches throughout the nation, like they're just 301 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: especially in the Northeast. Me living in the Northeast for 302 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: three years, now I see that I live in Connecticut. 303 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: I'd say that probably more Jets fans than any other 304 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: fans that I've noticed, which is surprising to me. I 305 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: guess because of the Patriots connection. Yeah, being in New England. 306 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: So it's just a great story if they can break through. Okay, 307 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: So how are they going to break through? And let's 308 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: start with the quarterback? The Jets have said if they 309 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: get go this offseason that they're committed to finding a 310 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. What does that landscape look like if we 311 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: see it here? INDI Yeah, So for them, the process 312 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: is pretty clear, right. You have Aaron Rodgers as option. 313 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: A Aaron Rodgers technically is not available yet. The expectation 314 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: is that he will be, but that has to shake 315 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: out with what Aaron Rodgers and the Packers work out. 316 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: So the Jets, as far as I know, are waiting 317 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers at least to wait on the clarity 318 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: of what's to come and whether he's available. And then 319 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: you have Derek Carr's Option B right, and Option B 320 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: is bird in hand ready now, and so the Jets 321 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: are sort of waiting while cars sort of waiting, and 322 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: he has other teams involved. So if he goes and 323 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: signs elsewhere in the next couple of days, that does 324 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: put the Jets in a bit of a precarious spot 325 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: because then they lose the car leverage they had with 326 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: making it look like, oh, we don't need Aaron Rodgers 327 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: that badly. You know, we got car too. Like it's 328 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: just this big game that everybody's playing right now league wide, 329 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: because you have other teams that are trying to fill 330 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: the same spot and they might need to pivot to 331 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, who's sort of the third option. And then 332 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: you have Lamar Jackson his way up here as like 333 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: a hospital option. It's I mean, it's going to be 334 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: a wild three weeks, if your Car's camp, if your 335 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, are the Jets your number one target? People 336 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: have mentioned the Carolina Panthers and obviously the New Orleans 337 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: Saints in the relationship there with that. I don't know 338 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: that for sure. What I know is that, well, I 339 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: know that the meeting that he had with the Jets 340 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: went really well. There's a good vibe there. I certainly 341 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: think there's interest. What I know is that fit is 342 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: really important to him, Winning is really important to him, 343 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: and you know there I've even taught to some teams 344 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: who wonder if car wants to go to the NFC 345 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: just because it's a little bit of an easier path, 346 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: less of a quarterback pantheon, so to speak. You don't 347 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: have mahomes Borough, Herbert, Josh Allen, all those guys might 348 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: be a path of least resistance to win. So that 349 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: would bring Carolina into the mix because they have a 350 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: talented roster, you know, if they want to go that route. 351 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: You know, Saints, it's my understanding that they want to 352 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: get something done with Derek Carr like that. They're ready 353 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: to do that, so he has options. It's just I 354 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: get the sense that you know, he's just sort of 355 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: waiting it out patiently so that that second team can 356 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: get heavily involved along with the Saints, and then you 357 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: have more leverage. So it kind of helps him to 358 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: wait a little bit in that way, do you sense 359 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: that the Packers do want to move on? They finally 360 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: got to a point here where hey, we got confidence 361 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: in Jordan Love. Yeah, we've done this a couple of 362 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: years with Darren, and hey, we've had a great relationship 363 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: for a long time. Maybe it's our time. The part 364 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: why I do sense that now if he comes to 365 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: them and says, hey, I want to be here, I 366 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: don't want to leave, then okay, what do you do? 367 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: Do you force their force Aeron's hand and trade him anyways. 368 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'd go that far, but I 369 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: do get the sense that it's eerily similar to how 370 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: the Bread Farve ending occurred, where it's what fifteen years 371 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: or whatever, I Love, it's been a decade and a half. Essentially, 372 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: you have quarterback or a hell of a run, won 373 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. They get into their late thirties, it's 374 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: probably time, you know, like that, and Jordan Love is 375 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: ready to play, wants to play Packers believe he's ready 376 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: to play, So that's a big factor in all this. 377 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: A year ago. I don't know if they'd be in 378 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: the same spot. You're a national correspondent for ESPN. What 379 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: would you think about the hypothetical situation of if Rogers 380 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: came to New York? How big would that be? I mean, 381 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: you really can't understate it. I know, even though he 382 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: didn't have a great year on paper compared to his 383 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: normal MVP standards. Like you talked to given coaches around here, 384 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers still scares them more than just about any 385 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: other quarterback. I mean, you know where he fits in 386 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: that order is still hard to say. And you have 387 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: so many good young ones like Joe Burrow and all 388 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: those guys we've mentioned earlier, justin Herbert and of course Mahomes, 389 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: but Rogers still commands that respect. He still scares defensive coordinators. 390 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: I think that's why the Jets are willing to wait, 391 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: Like it's pretty clear to them that on the field, 392 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: Rodgers is the best set. You know. Now, I'm fascinated 393 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: to see with what happened with the New York media 394 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: and Rodgers, like he's in Green Bay, which is a 395 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: little bit of a different market, right, And yeah, we 396 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: all know is unique personality and he likes to share 397 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: things on the Pat McAfee show and all those things. 398 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: That would be fascinating to see that play out in 399 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: New York. Potential suitors. You hear the Jets being talked about, 400 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: and then the Las Vegas Raiders as well, you think 401 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: there'll be other teams in the mix, because if you're 402 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: Green Bay and you eventually get to that point where hey, listen, 403 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: it's time for Jordan Love and also we're going to 404 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: get rid of Aaron Rodgers, you probably have a lot 405 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: of incentive to get them today FC, Right, And I 406 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: don't know the exact teams yet. I mean I've heard 407 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of the Raiders. I haven't confirmed as 408 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: firmly that they're in and inquiring the way the Jets have, 409 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: but everybody involved knows that there will be at least 410 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: multiple teams, probably several teams. Yeah, like that, that will 411 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: be the expectation. It won't be just the Jets, it 412 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: will be others, and it should be a pretty good market. 413 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: Like because despite his sixty million dollars or almost sixty 414 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: million that's guaranteed this year, the cap at the way 415 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: it's spread out with the Packers having to handle some 416 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: of the signing, and it's the new cap hit for 417 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: the acquiring team is not bad. It's like sixteen million 418 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: this year, right, It's totally manageable for a new team 419 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: to take that on. What do you think about potential 420 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: compensation if a trade indeed does that's a hard one. Yeah, 421 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: because of the age, but he can still play. I 422 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: gotta think a first round pick is still involved. I do, yeah, 423 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: but not much more than that. Or maybe you can 424 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: package a second and a third or do it a 425 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: certain way. But I would say it's definitely not going 426 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: to be in that. You know, Deshaun Watson, Russell, Wilson Rome. 427 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: We saw probably somewhere in between Russell's trade, which is 428 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: two ones and players right there, and you know, the 429 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: run of the mill Carson Wentz type trade, which is 430 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: a couple of third round picks. Maybe somewhere in the 431 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: middle of that, I would guess. So if Derek Carr 432 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: signed with the Jets, if that was the match, Yeah, 433 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: he makes a free agency deal with the Green and White. 434 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: And I've talked to a number of people here and 435 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: you probably equo these sentiments Carr wants to get this 436 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: done sooner than lay it or I'm not just talking 437 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: about the Jets, but before the league year starts, before 438 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: free agency starts, getting on her way, right, what do 439 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: you where would that take the Jets as far as 440 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: their rosters concerned. Right now? And you add a piece 441 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: like that, you're saying, if they added yea, yeah, so well, 442 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: just it solves the most important position. That's really what 443 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: they need. I mean, it's I push back a little 444 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: bit on the notion that the Jets are just like 445 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: loaded at every position, like ready to win a championship 446 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: with a quarterback. I'm not there yet. Offensive line needs 447 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: a lot of help, and they know that now they've 448 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: the Jets and Joe Douglas now have the benefit of 449 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: the doubt with how they've drafted for the most part 450 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: that they will get that done. Like whatever needs they 451 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: need filled, they'll get good players in the draft, because 452 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: you've seen that with what they have with the Garret 453 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: Wilsons and the Sauce Gardners and really, you know, the 454 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: class that they put together last year has a chance 455 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: to be one of the greats in the league of 456 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: the last decade. You know, you look at New Orleans 457 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: their class four or five years ago. You know, the 458 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: cults a great class recently, and I think the Jets 459 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: are where they did last year, will match up with 460 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: that kind of class. So that's that really builds you 461 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: up as a foundation for five to ten years, you know. 462 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: So they're pretty well set, but I still you know, 463 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: they could use another dB, probably a safety, They could 464 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: use their line help. It's not a finished product if 465 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: he slides the quarterback in. But Car provides a lot 466 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: of stability because I think the notion league wide was like, Okay, 467 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: if they just had capable quarterback play last year or 468 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: just competent quarterback play, they would have won more games 469 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: and push through the playoffs. So you know, Car can 470 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: certainly do that. But he didn't have a good year, 471 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, and he struggled in the cold at times. 472 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: So but he's still considered a good, solid starter who 473 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: can get it done. What are Jeremy, what are some 474 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 1: of your favorite storylines this week? Not just the off season, 475 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: but as far as we're here in Indianapolis. You got 476 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: the lead year approaching only a couple of weeks away, 477 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: and then obviously the draft coming up after that. Yeah, well, 478 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: we just heard GM Joe Shane talk the Giants GM. 479 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: That's interesting with Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley. They'd like 480 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: to try to sign both of those guys by the 481 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: franchise tech deadline, which is gonna be hard. You got 482 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: till March seventh, so I don't know if they can 483 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: pull it off. That's that's an interesting one. UM. Just 484 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: all the cuts leaguewide, you know, cap casualties players being released, 485 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: to be a lot of good players that will be 486 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: looking for new homes here soon. So that's interesting to 487 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: me as well. Very interesting today with the news out 488 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: of Buffalo, Leslie Fraser will not be back, his defensive coordinator, 489 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: going to take a year off and then come back 490 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. Yeah, that is fascinating. I did 491 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: not expect that. Um. I actually corresponded with him a 492 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: few days ago, but Nelson, I didn't. I had no idea. 493 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: I wish I would have asked him, yeah, if he 494 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: was coming back, because I assumed he was, you know, 495 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: um yeah, he's you know, uh, he's had a good 496 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: run in Buffalo, been a head coach, like he's accomplished 497 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: a lot. So I think you just figured, hey, it's 498 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: time to reset and get a year and and and 499 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: come back and be a you know, a coordinator name 500 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, it was. That was a shock to 501 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: the system a little bit. Yeah, if you're such free agent, 502 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: you got an explainer in contract, and you look at 503 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: the Jets out there, and you look what happened. A 504 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago at NFL Honors, Sauce Gardener Defensive 505 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, Garrett Wilson Offensive Rookie of the Year. 506 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson said that, hey, if Priest Hall was healthy 507 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: this year, he probably would have been Offensive Rookie of 508 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: the Year and would have been a runaway. You look 509 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: what the Jets did on the defensive side of the ball, 510 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: going from last in the league to top five and 511 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: basically every important category across the board. And then you 512 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: look at what Joe Douglas and Robert Sala their relationship is, 513 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: and also the way Sala connects with people inside the 514 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: locker room. How attractive of a destination has this become 515 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: and potentially can it become if you do get the 516 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: quarterback in place? I think so you talk about like 517 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: free agents, Yeah, yeah, yeah, certainly Robert sala is a 518 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: guy that people like to play for him. You know, 519 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: coaches respond to him. You know, he creates a good 520 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: culture in the locker room. And yeah, it's I think, Well, 521 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: the money's always going to talk, right with free agents. 522 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: I mean, that's number one. We know that. So the 523 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: Jets have to not only be able to maximize the 524 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: dollar for a player, but sometimes if you have a 525 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: Jacksonville or a team in Florida or you gotta fight 526 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: that too. But if all things are equal, yes, I 527 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: do think the Jets are more more digestible for free 528 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: agents than maybe they were in the past. You know, 529 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: you feel like you're going to a place where you 530 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: can win, that there's at least hope to win. I 531 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: got a feeling we're going to see a lot of 532 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: you here in the coming weeks because Jets are gonna 533 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: land the quarterback. Who it is, We're about to find out, 534 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: Jeremy Foller, thanks for stopping by. Thank you