1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:00,680 Speaker 1: Don't know. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 2: Every day up waiting, click your ass up the Breakfast Club. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: You don't feelsh for y'all done morning. Everybody is DJ 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: Law La Rosa is here as well. We got a 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: special guest in the buildings. Back again, ladies and gentlemen, Bozama, 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: Saint John, Welcome back. 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 3: How you feeling being here? I feel great. 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: You're feeling good. Yeah, last time we spoke to you'all 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: know you were we were talking about you were moving 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: because of the things that happened with your house and 12 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: the house burned down. So just give us an update 13 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: of what happened with that. 14 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 3: Well, it's been a crazy time. 15 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's like I think, like everybody else, 16 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 4: you know, the new year came, It's like, oh twin 17 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 4: twenty five, gonna beat my year. And then seven days 18 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 4: later my house burned down in Malibu, and I was like, oh, okay, 19 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 4: you know, and the challenge of the house is that 20 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 4: it was really my dream house. I fought hard for 21 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 4: that house. I was actually just reading something about Harry 22 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 4: Belafonte who was trying to buy a property in the 23 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: nineteen fifties an apartment here in Manhattan, and they were, 24 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: you know, trying to keep him out because obviously he 25 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: was black, and I was like, damn, Like you know, 26 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 4: seventy years later, I was facing the same thing in Malibu, 27 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And so it was really 28 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 4: really devastating, but you know, God grace grit, some tears, 29 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 4: some anger, some lawsuits, because sometimes you gotta take it 30 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: to your lawyers, you know what I mean. 31 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: What insurance they was just I'm sure they didn't want 32 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: to say, will cover it. 33 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: Everybody's in trouble, you know. 34 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 4: I mean, look, there was so much damage, so many 35 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 4: people who didn't have who lost everything that I don't 36 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 4: I don't know that it's possible. 37 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 3: You know, to recover, and so sometimes you just gotta 38 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: you know, get a little mean with it. 39 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: You're going to rebuild. 40 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. 41 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: I've only been there twice, you know, because it's it's very, 42 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 4: very hard, you know, to see it. So the first 43 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 4: one went, it was like all in rubble, and then 44 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 4: I went back a couple of weeks ago and it's 45 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: like all cleared out now, so you can see the land, 46 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: and it's just a tough thing because I look at 47 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: it and I'm like, man, but if I leave, like 48 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: when do I come back? 49 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: You know, like when when do I get another opportunity. 50 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: It was so hard to buy it, So it's just 51 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: like I. 52 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: Said, it so hard to buy it. They don't let 53 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: black people buy it, meaning that. 54 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: It was as an argument I had. I had to 55 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: put a trust inside of a trust so that nobody 56 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 4: could find me. Nobody would know that a single black 57 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 4: woman was buying a property on the beach front of Malibu, 58 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 59 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: So did you actually go see the house? So you 60 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: know you couldn't go see the house because they would 61 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: see a black woman come to that house. 62 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 5: No. 63 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 4: I went to see the house like sort of undercover, 64 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 4: you know, pretending my house, just sight seeing, and then 65 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: sent my real estate agent, who's a wonderful little Jewish woman. 66 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: Love her to death, and sent her to go to 67 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: go do it. 68 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: And my business managers, uh, you know, put my trust 69 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 4: inside of trust, and I have somebody who signed stuff 70 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 4: for me so I don't never have to show up. 71 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: And that's how I got people really care, like when 72 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: they're selling a property, they're making money, right, I don't 73 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: care Black green yellow. Look. 74 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 4: I wish I could answer that question, but they really 75 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: do care. It's wild because even after we had closed, 76 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: the former owner tried to put a clause after the 77 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 4: contract was done saying that he could have access to 78 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: my beach. 79 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: Really my house. 80 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 4: You gonna be walking audacity, you know what I mean. 81 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: I was like, I own this. 82 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: House now you no longer own it, and if you 83 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: come as trespass that we'll call the cops on you. 84 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,279 Speaker 3: How has your family been really good? 85 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like my daughter who's sixteen, really loved the house, 86 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 4: you know, and it's it's a it's a it's a 87 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: hard thing to go through, you know, grief upon grief 88 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: is a hard thing for sure. 89 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: But we're managing you. 90 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 5: You also, since we last thing, you got engaged. 91 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I knew this is why I want to 92 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: see Lauren today because last time I was here, we 93 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: were talking about me and my man, and then I 94 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 4: think you said, like, you know, are you guys? 95 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: Is he gonna propose? 96 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: Because it was I think it was your birthday trip 97 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: And when you posted, I was like, she they are 98 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: so happy, they are so in love, Like I love 99 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: this for her. 100 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: Remember I told you to go call him. Yeah, I 101 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: never called. You called, and then the proposal happened. 102 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: You know how you did he had any friends for 103 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: you at the time when you was looking, because she 104 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: was looking, she was looking at me, looking hard. 105 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 5: Looking hard. 106 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: I was like, and God, do whatever he needed to do. 107 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: And I'm in a great is good amen Amy? 108 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: Look But back to. 109 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, so last time you was here, we talked 110 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: about it, were like, you know, I do want to 111 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, family is my thing. Yeah, and then a 112 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: surprise proposal happened and you I read the People exclusive 113 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: it said you were actually surprised. 114 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 5: But I find it hard for you to be surprised. 115 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: It's very difficult to surprise me. I mean, because like, look, 116 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 4: first of all, I feel like I'm psychic. Next, I'm like, 117 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: I see people's movements and I'm like, why do you 118 00:04:58,960 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: say that? 119 00:04:59,320 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: Why did you do that? 120 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 4: Now, the thing that tipped me off a little bit 121 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: I knew something was happening was that he's a traveler. 122 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 4: You know, we both love to travel a lot, and 123 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 4: we exchange voice notes and video messages constantly all day long. 124 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 4: And we had gone to London for my sister's wedding 125 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: and afterwards I had to return home to continue filming 126 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 4: the real houseits of Beverly Hills, and he said he 127 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 4: was going to stay in Europe and just travel around 128 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: a little bit. And so he's like in Rome, he's 129 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 4: sending me videos of his tour. He's in Paris, he's 130 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 4: like doing all these things. And then he's like, oh, 131 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna stop by Mumbai. And I was like, India, you. 132 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 5: Know what I mean. 133 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, yeah, I've never been with him, gonna go. 134 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: So I was like, okay, you know, So he goes. 135 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: He was there for a week and I was getting like, 136 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 4: you know, messages, but they were always from his room 137 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: and or like he would be outside and you know, 138 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: so I was like. 139 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: Why would he be in India? Now? The thing is 140 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: these two rings that I wear constantly. 141 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 4: Yes, I got both of them in India on different trips, right, 142 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 4: and they were kind of like my own like you know, 143 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 4: I love myself type ring because I you know, I 144 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: didn't I hadn't purchased expensive jewelry for myself before. And 145 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 4: the and this band I actually bought from Prianca Chopra's 146 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: jeweler when I went to her wedding and so I 147 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: love India first jewels, first gems, all that stuff. And 148 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 4: so that's when I was like, is he in India 149 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: to get me some like the ring? That was the 150 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: only thing that kind of my spidy senses were going 151 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: that wasn't sure, and you know, you know, you don't 152 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 4: want to ask all the way. So when he proposed, 153 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 4: I was surprised because I wasn't expecting it. And then 154 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 4: when he said he'd been in India for my ring, 155 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, my spidy senses weren't wrong. 156 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: I will tell you the fact that boze Man was like, 157 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: I'm traveled. I'm going to Rome today, like you know, 158 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm just going to stop down. 159 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 5: I'm really happy for you. 160 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned earlier like you know, even with 161 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: your daughter and you dealing with grief. On grief, it's 162 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: like you know, your ex husband and then your house 163 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: and it's like kind of like watching a fairy tale 164 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: play out. So like, I'm happy to see that for you. 165 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's been like, because sometimes too, 166 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: I think when people go through such hard hits back 167 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: to back, they shut down. They don't want to open 168 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: up to stuff like that. I don't know what that's 169 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: been like for you as well. 170 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: But that's the thing is that I don't know that 171 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: you can get a wound and then you don't want 172 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: to repeat that same pain. You try to avoid it 173 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: at all costs, you know. And so I think for me, 174 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: part of it has been for sure, like trying to 175 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 4: understand how to heal my grief, but also having some courage, 176 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 4: you know, and being like, you know what, I could 177 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: hurt before, but I'm gonna do it again and it 178 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: won't hurt this time, you know. And that's the only 179 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: way to actually move forward is that you have to 180 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: tell yourself that, otherwise you will be in a cave. 181 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: And I'm not even like judging anybody. 182 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: Who's like lost a partner or like to death or 183 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 4: any other way and they feel trapped, you know, and 184 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 4: feel like I can't get out of my own way. 185 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: I don't even blame them for that, because I certainly understand. 186 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: But yeah, I love love, and I love happiness and 187 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: I love joy, and it is an active thing that 188 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: I'm doing every day. 189 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: To choose it. 190 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: Did he ask your daughter first? Or did he did 191 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, because he hold on, let me 192 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: talk to my daughter. 193 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: Yes, well, contrary is a popular belief. 194 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 4: I am a traditional woman in that way that he 195 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 4: flew to my father and asked him for my hand, 196 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 4: asked my mother, and he. 197 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: Asked my daughter wow before asking me. I love it. 198 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: And I'm like checking with all my people, everybody, all right, 199 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: then you. 200 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Are all right? 201 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: I love it. 202 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: Now. Now do we have any other little bosmus that 203 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: we should that we need to be right right right? 204 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 4: No, not not now, but we are interested. And so 205 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: I have been on a fertility journey for the last 206 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 4: six or seven months. 207 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: It's been really tough, you know, because I'm forty eight, 208 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: I'm almost forty nine. You look good, Thank you. 209 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 4: Jesus, thank you, everybody look And I mean, I don't 210 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: know if you know you've you've ever experienced it, but 211 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 4: it's like going through the hormonal journey, you know, taking 212 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 4: the medication, taking the injections, like getting the checkops, getting 213 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 4: the eggs extracted. 214 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 3: It is such a difficult process on your body. I mean, 215 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: it's like not just the gaining weight and the bloating, 216 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: but it's like the emotional rollercoaster. And I'm trying to 217 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: do a million thanks and no you know. 218 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 5: What I mean. So much going on on top of 219 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: all your other businesses. 220 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: You yes, and so it's like this and it is 221 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: a dream because unfortunately when I was pregnant. I've been 222 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 4: pregnant twice, and the first time I was pregnant, I 223 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 4: developed preclamsya early and unfortunately my daughter didn't survive her birth. 224 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: I also was had preclamsya with Layelle's pregnancy, and it 225 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: was just traumatic, you know. Both experiences were terrible, you know, 226 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 4: and thank god that Layelle survived and she's such a 227 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: wonderful person and she gives me hope for the future. 228 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 4: But I have to say that for the last fifteen years, 229 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I'm not going back there. I'm 230 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 4: not going to try that again, you know. And it 231 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 4: wasn't until I met Kiely and he doesn't have any 232 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 4: kids that he was like, you know, should we try? 233 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: And I was like, ooh, I don't know. 234 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: That's I don't know if I can do it. And 235 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 4: he was like, well, maybe we need to get a 236 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: second and third and fourth opinion. And we found this 237 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: amazing doctor, this black woman who deals in fertility. 238 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: And she was like, yeah, we can do it, we should, 239 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: we should try. I was like, Okay, this is the. 240 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: Last shot because girl's about to close up shop up here, 241 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 4: So let's do it. 242 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: Let's try and see what happens. 243 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: For people that don't know, how did you meet Keiley? 244 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: How did y'all? 245 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: Oh, so this is a crazy story. How much time 246 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 3: do we have? Let me let it breathe. 247 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 4: So, as I said, I choose love, but it's been 248 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: difficult because I also don't want to bring any just 249 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 4: random old people into my life, especially with my daughter. 250 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: And I was in a relationship that I thought was 251 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 4: going to be you know, it was like finally after 252 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: like twelve years, like oh my gosh, this is going 253 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 4: to be it, and unfortunately ended terribly. 254 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 3: You know, he stepped out. 255 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: There was a lot of betrayal, a lot of broken 256 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: heart going on, and I was in the middle of 257 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 4: trying to gather the pieces of my heart and also 258 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: try to figure out what I was going to do 259 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 4: next with my career because I had retired from corporate life, 260 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: published my. 261 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: Book, and then I was like in this down period. 262 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: So it's like I had a broken heart and I 263 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 4: couldn't figure out what to do with my career, and 264 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 4: I decided I want to start my own business, you know, 265 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 4: in hair and beauty, and so I I just poured 266 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 4: my whole self into it. 267 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: And I knew that I wanted to call the business Eve, 268 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: after my first daughter, and also after the fath that 269 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: of course, even the Bible and even science is the 270 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: first woman. 271 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: And she's from Africa, so come on, you know what 272 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 4: I mean. So I was like, okay, that's gonna be 273 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: the one. And as a marketer, I'm always looking for inspiration, 274 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 4: you know, in visuals and stories, and I did a 275 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 4: lot of research about Eve, and I was looking for 276 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: pictures of a black Eve comet find none, you. 277 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: Know, they were all pale and red headed. Can't we 278 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: tell you? Is the only other one? 279 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: Okay? 280 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: The only one? 281 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 4: And I found through the work, I found this artist, 282 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: Harmonia Rosales, who's a black Cuban woman. She came she's 283 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: come to fame because she has taken like the old 284 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 4: master's work, like da Vinci and Michelangelo and recreated them 285 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: using black or Rishia's from West Africa. So basically it's like, 286 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: you know, there's a famous painting called the Birth of 287 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 4: Venus and she redid it and she put a black 288 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 4: oshun in the place of Venus, because that's where they 289 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 4: got it from. You know. It was like all of 290 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 4: those Greek and Roman gods and goddesses came from the Risius. 291 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: And so I found her work because she has a 292 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 4: new project coming. 293 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my God, I gotta go 294 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: see it. 295 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 4: So I flew to Atlanta where she was having an 296 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: exhibition at Spelman and made friends and I was like, yo, 297 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: I want to be a collector of your work. Like 298 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 4: I was so in love with it, and I'll cut 299 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: right to the end. I a few months later, I 300 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: went to her home for a private showing and Miss 301 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 4: Tina's up in there, you know, everybody's at Lebron. Everybody's 302 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 4: in there, you know, trying to collect her work. And 303 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: her husband pulls me aside and he's like, hey, you know, 304 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: Harma's been working on this piece. She thinks it's yours. 305 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: By the way, her wit list is like two years long. 306 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: So I was like, oh, shoot, let me. So she 307 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: takes me to the Baptist studio. She unveils it and 308 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 4: it's a painting of Eve in the center of the painting, 309 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 4: and I like, I just broke down to tears because 310 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, this has got to be a sign. 311 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 4: And so we're talking, we become much more friendly. Her 312 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 4: husband says, hey, look like, you know this is kind 313 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 4: of inappropriate, but you know, what's up with your love life? 314 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: Like you're such a dope woman like this and that. 315 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: I was like, I want to talk about I don't 316 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: have I don't want to go there. And he was like, 317 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: look like I know somebody who's interested in you because 318 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: they saw a picture of you from the showing that 319 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: we did in Atlanta. 320 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, who's that. He's like, oh, 321 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: it's my uncle. 322 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 4: I was like, now do I look like I did uncle? 323 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 4: Because this man is grown. I was like, oh, it's 324 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 4: given uncle here. 325 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: And it was funny because I was sitting. 326 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: I was sitting with my friend Ayushahines, who's an actress, 327 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: and she was like, girl, you probably want. 328 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: To see the uncle. First. I was like, I want 329 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: he an uncle, But then he went to his Instagram. 330 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, because we're black and the 331 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 4: thing is our families sometimes uncles are like two years older. 332 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 333 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 4: Uncle was the right age and looked good and it 334 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: was killy, and so he introduced us and the rest 335 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: of sister. That was the first date, the first day great, 336 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, the first date. He lives in San 337 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 4: Diego and I live in Los Angeles. Well, girl, let 338 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 4: me tell you, because the first and second date were fantastic, 339 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 4: and then he asked me on on the third date 340 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, you know, I'm gonna be 341 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 4: in Ghana for December and Christmas. I'm like gone for 342 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: like a month. And he was like, all right, then. 343 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: I'll come to Ghana, girl, and the man. Yeah, and 344 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: he flew to Ghana and we had our third date 345 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: on New Year's Eve and I would propose right there, 346 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: right there we go. Yeah, So he's wonderful. That's wonderful. 347 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 5: Yes, but thank you. 348 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: Happy. 349 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 5: Well, you talked about the kind of talked about it 350 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 5: for me, because if if you wanted to, he would. 351 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: That's right, right, that's right. Okay. 352 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: So your new show on Brand with Jimmy Fallon on NBC, 353 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: because I know you were filming for that show while 354 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: Kili was getting the whole surprise engagement together, so it 355 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: all kind of ties into where you are now wise too. 356 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's such an amazing thing, right, yeah, 357 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: because the thing is you know, over the course of 358 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 4: my career. And it's weird because of course, like you 359 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 4: look at my resume and people are like, oh my god, 360 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: this amazing resume. You worked at Pepsi and Apple and 361 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: Netflix and Uber like all these places. But when I 362 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: tell you that the moves from place to place, people 363 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: were not supportive. 364 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: You know, they'd be like, why would you leave this 365 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: job to go over here? 366 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: Like when I joined Uber as a chief brand officer. 367 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: I was the head of global marketing for Apple Music 368 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 4: and launched it right. People were like, why would you 369 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 4: leave Apple and go to Uber because at the time 370 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 4: it was famed and it was like, you know, headed south. 371 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 4: And I was like, look, this is where like my 372 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: intuition is calling me, but that's where I got to go, 373 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 4: and I don't care what your opinions are. 374 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 3: I did that over and over and over again. 375 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 4: And when I joined The Housewives, people were like, yo, 376 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 4: you're going to destroy your reputation, like you you know, 377 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 4: you're in the Hall of fame, Like why would you go. 378 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: Fight women? 379 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: And I was like no, but do I have to 380 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 3: do that? 381 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 4: I don't feel like that's what I need to do, 382 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 4: Like why can't we showcase a different type of woman 383 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 4: on this show. And it was in the first episode 384 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 4: of The Housewives where they were, you know, basically going 385 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 4: over my career and my resume, and Jimmy's wife was 386 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 4: watching the show, and unbeknownst to me or anybody else, 387 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 4: Jimmy had had been trying to sell this show to 388 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: NBC for two years and it's a marketing reality competition show, 389 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 4: kind of like Apprentice or Project Runway, et cetera. And 390 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: when he was pitching, they told him that he needed 391 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: somebody to legitimize the show, and so he met with 392 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 4: a bunch of cmos. 393 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 3: Nobody was really clicking until his wife was like, Yo, 394 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 3: this woman bows right here. She's on Housewives. 395 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: And he was like, oh, I don't know if I 396 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 4: was looking related for that kind of woman, you know, 397 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 4: that kind of person. But he watched the season he 398 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 4: was like, you're great, and so he called me. We 399 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 4: had a meeting and it just felt like the perfect 400 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 4: culmination of everything. You know, It's like, I have twenty 401 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,239 Speaker 4: five years of corporate experience in marketing. I know how 402 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 4: to manage the brands, like I know what a pitch 403 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 4: looks like. And even in the episodes that were filming. 404 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 4: There was an example of Southwest, which was one of 405 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: the clients on the show, where the assignment was to 406 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 4: wrap a plane. And what's crazy is that fourteen years 407 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: ago when I or twelve years ago when I joined 408 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 4: Beats and was running Beats Music, the way to get 409 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of people to hear it was 410 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 4: to put it into airplanes, right, and no one would 411 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 4: do it except for Southwest, And then in my marketing 412 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 4: with them, I was like, you know what, in order 413 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 4: for people to see it, I. 414 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 3: Want to wrap the plane. I put headphones on all 415 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 3: the planes. 416 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: And so we're standing there and they're giving the assignment 417 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 4: to these contestants, like okay, you got to wrap the 418 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 4: plane a Southwest plane and talk about more leg room. 419 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, I did that a twelve 420 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 3: years ago, you know what I mean. 421 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 4: And so for me, it's been an incredible just it 422 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 4: feels like divine alignment. You know that I've done the business, 423 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: done the work, I'm on TV. I understand how to 424 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 4: be fast and. 425 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: What it takes to be in front of the camera, 426 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: and so this was just a perfect marriage of all 427 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: those things. 428 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: I love it so all right, So I want to 429 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: talk about the show, because I do know some questions 430 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: about the agency, but tying real housewives into the show, 431 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: I don't. People we're surprised, not surprised because y'all have 432 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: talked about kind of mending. But when we saw Kyle 433 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: post your billboards, oh yeah, she's yeah, excited to be 434 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: happy for you. Yeah, so in real life, like once 435 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: you guys do things like the reunions and the show 436 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: is over, and then because it seems like y'all are 437 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: up and down, what's your relationship with her in real 438 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: life when these things happened, Because then she's posting the 439 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: billboard right right, right? 440 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 5: Okay, so cool again. 441 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. These feelings are all real. 442 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 4: That's the one thing I didn't know going into the 443 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 4: show was that if you are, you know, not feeling somebody, 444 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: you're not feeling them. 445 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 3: For real, you know what I mean. 446 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 4: And I think the other thing that confuses people about 447 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 4: these shows, and I didn't know that when I went in, 448 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: is how much time, how much intense time you're spending 449 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 4: with them. 450 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: You know, it's like we filmed for three and a 451 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: half months. 452 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 4: You're spending eight hours day, six days a week with 453 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: these people, and it's not like you go in and 454 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 4: you're like, oh, what's the weather? 455 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 3: Like, No, you're like, what's happening with your divorce? You 456 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 3: know what I mean? 457 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 4: And you're talking deeply about these things, and so of course, 458 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 4: like your emotions get caught up in it, and you 459 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 4: to know people so much better than you. 460 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 3: Would in your regular life. 461 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 4: I mean at that time, it's like, look, I talked 462 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 4: to my I have three sisters, and I was selling 463 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 4: them less than I was talking to these women every day. 464 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: And so last year Kyle and I had a tough 465 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 4: time because I just felt like she should be more 466 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 4: open and honest about her life. I was like, hey, look, 467 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: we're all sharing, you know, like I'm going through a 468 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 4: lot and I'm sharing, you know, why did't you share 469 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: what's going on with you? And the thing is that 470 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 4: like if we are meant to get to know each 471 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 4: other or meant to be friends, like if you're gonna 472 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 4: keep it light with me, then I'm keeping a. 473 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: Light with you, right, you know what I'm saying, Like 474 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: why am I going to tell you all my business? 475 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 4: And you don't want to tell me anything? And she 476 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 4: felt a way about it because I said she was cold, 477 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 4: you know, but that was the truth. 478 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: That was the experience I was having. 479 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: But in this current time, we've crossed that bridge, you know, 480 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 4: and I think maybe to you know, give her some grace, 481 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: it is that she also is going through a hard 482 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 4: time and she wasn't necessarily open to being like, oh, 483 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 4: here's a new girl, let me just tell her everything. 484 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 3: And not everybody's the same, you know. Drek was very 485 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: open with like all of her drama. 486 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 4: And so, yeah, we became closer, and I was in 487 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 4: as close to Kyle, but we're in a much better 488 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: place now. And so the joy that she feels about 489 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: my success in this show with Fallin is real. 490 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: Now. 491 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: On the show, you're basically like tag teaming with Fallon, 492 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: but he's the boss of the agency and you are 493 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: the chief marketing officer, right yeah, So I mean you 494 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: explain how you got there, but how real are like 495 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: the campaign? So I've only watched some of the first episodes, 496 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: and I know they're really dealing with the brand you 497 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: guys are. 498 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 5: Working with Dunkin Donuts in the first episode. Are they 499 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 5: really taking these strategies and actually applying them or is 500 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 5: it just for the show. 501 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 3: Yes, And That's the hard thing is that they're spending 502 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 3: millions of dollars. 503 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: So after I leave here today, I'm going over the 504 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 4: Dunkin Donuts because the episode that just aired was about, 505 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 4: you know, essentially recreating what the like a deal would be. 506 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: Right you walk into dunk Donuts, you want a breakfast deal? 507 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: What is going to look like? And it is in 508 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: the store right now, you know. 509 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: And Dunk like spend millions of dollars on this campaign, 510 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: and every single brand that comes uh does that. 511 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: And so these are real briefs. 512 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 4: They have real business issues that need to be solved, 513 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 4: and so you know, it's like they're they're trusting us 514 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: as much as we are putting faith into what these 515 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: creatives can do. 516 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,239 Speaker 2: It was so so wild, Like you said that last night, 517 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 2: I get at night when I have six kids, right 518 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: so at night, when the kids are sleeping, I just 519 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: have random thoughts kind of like like you do sometimes. 520 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: And my random thought last night was like, look, if 521 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: I was trying to get in the marketing industry, in 522 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: the commercial industry, I was like, what I would do 523 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: is I would shoot commercials for every brand I could 524 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 2: possibly but I would and I would like, listen because 525 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: I'm watching the Yankee game. I would like I would 526 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: do a commercial Yankees to get more people in the seats, 527 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: and I would just post it. I said, I would 528 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: do every brand. One brand's gonna hit me, one brand 529 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 2: hit me. And I'm thinking about, so, why don't why 530 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: don't some of these kids that are getting out of college, 531 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: why don't they do the rill of marketing like that what. 532 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 3: You do, what you do with you know, that's true. 533 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: And you know what's so crazy about that is that 534 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 4: regardless of the company I've worked for, I've always been 535 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: pitched like and when people know that I work there, right, 536 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 4: because I've been a public figure in the business world 537 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: for some time, and so if they know, it's like, oh, 538 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 4: I'm the chief marketing officer of Netflix. You know how 539 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 4: many films and TV shows I've been pitched over the. 540 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: Years, A lot? You know. 541 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: When I was at Apple, people like, oh, you know, 542 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,959 Speaker 4: I got a new idea for some technology, I got 543 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 4: a new app that I want that I want to 544 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 4: pitch you you know. Or at Pepsi people would be like, Oh, 545 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 4: I have a new drink flavor, not Meg Pepsi. 546 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 3: No that discussion, you know what I mean? Like everybody 547 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 3: has ideas, and so you're absolutely right. 548 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 4: I don't know why people don't take it upon themselves 549 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 4: to be like, you know what, let me, let me 550 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: try something, let me like put some creative out there. 551 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 4: And this is what now the show is doing, is 552 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 4: that these folks aren't like they're not practiced industry leaders. 553 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 4: You know, there's a swim instructor in there, there's a 554 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 4: real estate agent in there. 555 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: Because you can get it, not like before you need 556 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: the camera and you needed a camera and had to 557 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: know you can do everything on your phone. And like 558 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: you said, if I'm looking for a business, I'm like, 559 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: if I do twenty commercials, hopefully if they're good, one 560 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: of those twenty people. 561 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, And I think that's the opportunity right now, 562 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 4: and I'm actually hoping that that's what happens. Like people 563 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 4: will see this because the only challenge with like up 564 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: and doing something. 565 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: Is that if you don't know what the brief is, 566 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: you don't know what the business's. 567 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 4: Strategy is or what they're they're trying to accomplish, you're 568 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 4: gonna miss the mark. 569 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: Even if you have a great creative idea. 570 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 4: But in this case, it's like we're actually telling you 571 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 4: this is what Duncan Donut's trying to do, This what 572 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 4: Southwest is trying to do, This is what Kitchen Ad 573 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: is trying to do. And so I'm like, every week 574 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 4: you should be like doing your own pitch and posting 575 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: it and engaging and tagging everybody in it and being like, hey, 576 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 4: kitchen Ad, I got a better idea than these ten 577 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 4: people that are on the screen, you know what I mean, Because. 578 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: Now you heard the strategy, you might as well like 579 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: try and hit it. 580 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 4: So for me, it's like this is a real opportunity 581 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 4: for new people to get into the industry, into the 582 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 4: idea of marketing. 583 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: Going back to what you said when you said you 584 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: were you were at Netflix and people were trying to 585 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: pitch films, or you were at you know, Pepsi. Somebody 586 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: had a different flavor they wanted to pitch you every 587 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: single time. What was the process to that? Like, yeah, 588 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: what was it just no, or you gotta email somebody 589 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: or whatever. 590 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, What's the hard. 591 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: Part is that before it was almost impossible, you know, 592 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 4: it was impossible for me to get into the building, 593 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 4: you know what I mean that, Like, I mean I 594 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 4: crawled through the window in order to get into those rooms, 595 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: and it wasn't like, you know, anybody opened the front 596 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 4: door for me, right, And so it's like, yeah, sometimes 597 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 4: you you know, I would see a great idea or 598 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 4: hear a great idea, and I'd be like, all right here, 599 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 4: call me, you know, or email me. Most of the 600 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 4: time the ideas weren't great because yeah, they didn't know 601 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 4: the strategy, and so it's impossible to then have the idea. 602 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: But it's it's interesting. 603 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 4: There have been a number of times where I remember 604 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 4: at PepsiCo, there was a janitor who would often be like, hey, life, 605 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: you know, ideas, you know, and he eventually is the 606 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 4: one who created flaming hot Cheetos. 607 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 2: Or did I see a doc? You know what I mean. 608 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 4: It's like, so the ideas really can't come from Itford, 609 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 4: but you kind of have to have some insight into 610 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 4: what's happening on the business in order to make happen. Now, 611 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 4: the good thing about this current time is that most 612 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 4: brands aren't keeping their strategy behind closed doors. If you 613 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 4: go on their Instagram, you're probably gonna figure out their 614 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 4: strategy real quick. Yeah, you just see who are they targeting, 615 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 4: what is the message that they have. What's the tagline? 616 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's almost easy. So to Envy's point, 617 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 4: it's like you should have the gumption, you know, to 618 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 4: try it, Like that's the way grates are made. 619 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: It's like you try and if you don't succeed, where 620 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 3: they say, try and try again. 621 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: Do you think AI is hurting a lot of the 622 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: jobs that require thinking right? Because I can see somebody saying, yeah, 623 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 2: Bo's is good, but she's gonna cost us too much 624 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: money dunkin Donuts marketing? What were Bose doing? And it's 625 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: gonna come up with something that they've seen you do 626 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: before and they based it off things. So do you 627 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: think that hurts the industry because a lot of people 628 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 2: they live and die by AI. I mean got AI artists, 629 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: You got so many, right, I know. 630 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 4: Here's the interesting thing about AI. First of all, I'm 631 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 4: not afraid of AI. You know, I've worked in tech 632 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 4: for a decade and all of the companies that were 633 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 4: always pushing the limits. I mean, look, I was at 634 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 4: the cusp when we started doing personalization and algorithms, so 635 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, It's like it was scary 636 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 4: for people. 637 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 3: They're like, why do you know so much information about me. 638 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 4: I'm like, because you'll be mad at me if I 639 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 4: give you Metallica when you're looking for Snoop Dogg. 640 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: You know what. 641 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: But whatever, Now everybody's used to it, so it's okay. 642 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 4: It's the same thing with AI. It's like, look, we 643 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 4: use it constantly. Anyway it's been used. Now it's like 644 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 4: in the hands of consumers, and so it feels a 645 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 4: little scary or it feels like, oh my gosh, it's 646 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 4: gonna take this job or that job. But honestly, it's 647 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 4: been in existence for some time. And on top of that, 648 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 4: you got to remember that AI uses information that already exists. 649 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 4: It doesn't create things that don't exist in the world. 650 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 4: And so that's where I feel like humanity is at 651 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 4: its best. Like we are the dreamers, we're the imaginers. 652 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 4: We're the ones who are thinking about what could be 653 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: the possibilities. AI doesn't have that option, and so it's 654 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 4: pulling from data that already exists and then putting it 655 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 4: together and then sort of guessing and estimating what could happen. 656 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 4: You know, there's this idea of like a hallucinating AI 657 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 4: right or chat GPT where it's like it makes up 658 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 4: something because there's no space, you know, and it's usually 659 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 4: not accurate. And now I'm not saying that AI is 660 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: not going to get better. It certainly will, and perhaps 661 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 4: at some point it's going to do a good job 662 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 4: of predicting. But I still think that from a creative standpoint, 663 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 4: there are nuances that are going to be hard to 664 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 4: solve in tech that humans can do. 665 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: The only problem with AI, the biggest problem I have 666 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: with AI is a lot of people don't fact check right. 667 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: They think AI is right, And I can't And I 668 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: can't hate on this too much because I think I 669 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: would do it too. When I'm in college and you 670 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: have to write a paper, right, you had to research, Right, 671 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: you have to go to the library, or you have 672 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: to look it up, you have to google. You had 673 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: to find out what the information is. 674 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: Yes, think about it like this. 675 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: You have your daughter here, right, she could just say 676 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: I have to write a paper on this that it's 677 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: gonna give you having ten pages, Yes, as a smart student, 678 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: all you got to do is go through the ten 679 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: pages and change pretty much it's done. 680 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: But how does that help you? 681 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't because you're not necessarily learning the subject you're 682 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: not learning, you're just printing, and you getting an A 683 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: on a paper? Does that help you in the long run. 684 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 4: See, now here's where I have a controversial point of view. 685 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 4: I actually do think it's it's good because it is like, 686 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 4: and this is why I disagree when people say that 687 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 4: they don't want to give their kids iPads or have 688 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 4: them on the computer or this and that, because I'm like, 689 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 4: but then you are depriving them of understanding how to 690 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: cope in the world. 691 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: That does that, you know. 692 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 4: So the point is that AI, Chat, GPT, all these 693 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 4: programs are here to stay. And so I would prefer 694 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 4: that my daughter understand how to utilize chat, GPT, AI 695 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 4: and all these other programs and get the right answer 696 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 4: because you're only going to get the right answer if 697 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 4: you put in the right questions. 698 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: And so she doesn't have that practice, in ten years, 699 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: she will be lost. 700 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 4: Because everyone else out here would have perfected how to 701 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 4: get the right answer out. 702 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: Of AI and she won't know. 703 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: I would have been in college. 704 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 4: Yes, But now that's a challenge for professors, right and 705 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 4: teachers it's like, Okay, how are you going to modify 706 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 4: the way that you teach so that you can make 707 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 4: sure that your students are retaining information and knowing how 708 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 4: to utilize these subjects. Because look now I'm gonna I 709 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: already told you. I'm forty eight years old. When I 710 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 4: got to college, we didn't have a computer lab. Okay, 711 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 4: there was no there was no such thing a college. 712 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: You go. 713 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: Look, we were in college around the same time computer 714 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: that was. 715 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 3: No computer lab. 716 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: I was there when the computer lab opened and you 717 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 4: had to sign up on the sheet, you know what 718 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 4: I mean. 719 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: No, Look, it didn't exist. It did not exist, and 720 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: so you have to go to library with the encyclopedias. 721 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 3: Yet to hell, do you know what I'm saying? It 722 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 3: was terrible. 723 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: But even on that, from that standpoint, right, you don't 724 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: want you don't think it's important for kids to know 725 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: that part of it. 726 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 5: To your found it's like what if no, because. 727 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 3: You think about it because. 728 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: All technology technology, we know with one it's glitches. 729 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 3: Yes, it's shut down. 730 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: They can be taken away. 731 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: I know it's here to stay. 732 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 5: But like say, if it's it's. 733 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: A glitch or something or something don't go right stuff, 734 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: then stuff definitely can go wrong. We would need to 735 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: be able to know how to go and search for 736 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: stuff in books or whatever. 737 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: You know. 738 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: You know, but I believe, I believe in humanity. 739 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, if something happened and all technology failed, I 740 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 4: think we would find our way back. You know. 741 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: However, I do believe that tech is here to stay. 742 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 4: So my example with like going to the library and 743 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 4: looking through the encyclopedia is that once Google was at 744 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 4: our fingertips and search engines ride our fingertips. When was 745 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 4: the last time you looked in encyclopedia? You know, you 746 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 4: need to understand how to search for the right thing 747 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 4: and get the right answer and discern what is truth 748 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 4: from fiction. Now that's the skill you need today. You 749 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 4: don't need to understand how to like find lamas in 750 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 4: the excited encyclopedia. You know, I need to know that 751 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: a lama does not look like a now paka, you know, 752 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 4: when I search for it on Google, and if I 753 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 4: see a picture of the two, I can discern which 754 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 4: one is which. And that is the trick that we 755 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 4: need to instill in our children and in educators and 756 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 4: everybody else. 757 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 3: Is that, like, we've got to teach the new skills. 758 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 3: We can't just depend on what happened fifteen years ago. 759 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: You could take a picture of animal right now, put 760 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: in chagy. What is this exactly? 761 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 3: That's crazy? 762 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: Fact great? Tell me? 763 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 3: And also, what is this bump on my toe? Tell 764 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 3: me what that is? 765 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 2: That's what it is? Dangerous? You got a bump on 766 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 2: your toe? 767 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 4: You think it's cancer and you should take your ass 768 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 4: as a doctor, you know what I'm saying. 769 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 3: Abnormal and you died yesterday. 770 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: You didn't know, then that's your fault. 771 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. 772 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: There's a woman on the show speaking of age and 773 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: different like just eras knowing no because look, there's a 774 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: woman on the show, and one of the things that 775 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: stuck out from me for me with her was she says, 776 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm here and I'm doing this at 777 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: fifty Ye are marketing agencies hiring younger because they expect 778 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: you to know all the stuff y'all just talked about. 779 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 5: Is that so people are getting aged out of hiring? 780 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 3: For sure? 781 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 5: For sure? 782 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 4: Because the thing is that marketing and a lot of 783 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: creative industries are young people's game, you know, because I 784 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 4: think the challenge with being older and more mature is 785 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 4: that you've lived life and so you censor yourself, you know, 786 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 4: you'll be like, oh, this idea is not good because 787 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 4: I tried it twelve twelve years ago and it didn't work, 788 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 4: or like, oh I saw this other person do it. 789 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 4: You know, you ever met like a seventeen year old 790 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 4: with an idea. Yeah, lookin it's the best thing to 791 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 4: ever happened. And it probably is, you know, because they 792 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 4: have gumption and they have imagination and they are fearless 793 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 4: because they haven't seen it fail. But us, you'll be like, oh, 794 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 4: try and do this new thing. I'm like, ah, that's 795 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 4: not gonna work because syz thing. It's not gonna work 796 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 4: because we already tried it. Meanwhile, the seventeen year old 797 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 4: is like, I'm gonna try it. 798 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 3: I don't know any different. 799 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 4: And so yeah, I think the creative feels and for sure, 800 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 4: marketing and advertising is geared towards younger people, but you 801 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 4: do need the maturity of time to be able to 802 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 4: have discipline, you know, and be like, Okay, look, here's 803 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 4: a business problem. We got to focus on that. And 804 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 4: so that's why I feel like it kind of balances 805 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 4: itself out because you need more mature people who have 806 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 4: time on the books to be able to drive the 807 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 4: business any young people who are fearless to come up 808 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 4: with the ideas. 809 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 5: Were you at all nervous? 810 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: I know you guys talk about marketing and numbers and 811 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: stuff on your show, but were you at all nervous 812 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: when all of the Kimmel stuff was happening. Oh yeah, 813 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: because I know you guys bring some of those structual 814 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: holes onto your show. Ye're like, dang, I just got 815 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: this jump. 816 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, no, of course, I mean I think we 817 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 4: should all be worried about everything. 818 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm like, yeah, for sure. 819 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 4: When it's like Colbert got fired and then Kimmel got suspended, 820 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, looking at fam, I'm. 821 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 3: Like, hey, you know what I mean, what you do? 822 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 3: What you talking about? 823 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 4: And the thing that I respect about him so much 824 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 4: is that he definitely wasn't trying to censor himself. 825 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 3: He's like, Hey, this is what I do. This is 826 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 3: all I know. 827 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 4: I've got to keep going. And I respect that because 828 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 4: for me, it's like, look, I've been in playing rooms 829 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 4: where it would be easier not to be black, it'd 830 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 4: be easier not to bring my perspective that is so 831 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 4: unique to everybody. 832 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 3: Else's in the room. 833 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 4: But you do it anyway, even though you know somebody's 834 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 4: going to be like, ah, you said the wrong thing 835 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 4: and you should be fired, you know what I mean 836 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 4: threats I've had around that, and that had nothing to 837 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 4: do with the president, you know. And so I feel 838 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 4: like at this moment in time, there is so much 839 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 4: to be concerned about, and I wish that more people 840 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 4: were anxious about that and saying like, well, how do 841 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 4: we make sure that we protect all of these areas 842 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 4: that we've created so that we can actually continue to 843 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 4: be creative, to be funny, to be a little outlandish, 844 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 4: you know, without having to censor. 845 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 1: I feel you I got one last Housewives question. Okay, 846 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: take a left turn. But I just thought about this Garsel. 847 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm following you guys after she left. Oh gosh, yeah, 848 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: so she really didn't follow y'all. That wasn't like a 849 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: fan theory. 850 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 3: No, why you know, that's a really hard question. I 851 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 3: wish I knew. I really do. 852 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 4: Like it's not even like me being politically correct, like 853 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 4: I wish I knew. When I went on Watch What 854 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 4: Happens Live with Andy right after she decided to resigne, 855 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 4: and you know, he asked me how I felt about 856 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 4: and I was like, man, I just I wish he 857 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 4: didn't because I would like to actually work out whatever 858 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 4: the challenges were that she was having on the show 859 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 4: or with me personally, right, And it just you just 860 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 4: don't have that option. And so it's a lot like 861 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 4: having a breakup where you don't get access to the 862 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 4: person anymore and you kind of have to have closure 863 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 4: on your own. 864 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 3: And a lot of times people are like, oh, they're 865 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 3: not over. 866 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 4: The thing because they didn't get their closure, But I'm like, 867 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 4: you could close that door yourself too, So if that's 868 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 4: what she needed to do, then good for her. I mean, 869 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 4: I still follow her, I'm still interested in what she's doing. 870 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 3: I'm still cheering, but. 871 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 5: Try to reach out to her and talk to her. Yeah, yeah, 872 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 5: yeah I did nothing. 873 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 3: No no, no, she responded. But it wasn't It wasn't like, oh, 874 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 3: let's go, you know what I mean? Yeah, no, no. 875 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 4: I was just like, hey, look like I wish you 876 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 4: the very best, you know, and I want you to succeed, 877 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 4: and I wish this would have worked out. 878 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 3: And she said thank you, bos and that you know, 879 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 3: that's it. So it's amicable. Yeah, I do have a question. 880 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 2: Now you're engaged. Yes, how much you think y'all gonna 881 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 2: spend on the wedding? 882 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 4: Oh god, A lot of money, a lot, because I 883 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 4: want two weddings. Well, we want two weddings. I'm sorry, okay, yes, 884 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 4: well we want one. We both want one in l A. 885 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 4: I really want one in Ghana. So we're gonna do both. 886 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 4: And it's gonna cost a lot of money. 887 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 3: I mean, who paid for that? Well, we both do. 888 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 5: This. 889 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 3: Man said that you got the wedding. I took. 890 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: I flew for the third day. 891 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 2: You got the wedding the same to go get. 892 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 5: The ring, get the ring and move by. 893 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you know he knows who he's married. 894 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,479 Speaker 4: Yes, there's no surprises, there's no surprises, like we're gonna 895 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 4: do it big. 896 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want everybody there, Jesus Christ, if you. 897 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 5: Just got engaged. And he about to oh. 898 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 4: That's the thing, Yes, you're gonna have to pay for 899 00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 4: in Greece, and my god, yeah, so yeah, you're gonna 900 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 4: have to pay for that. 901 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 1: You see, he doesn't look because he's already counting the spots. 902 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of money, and and his daughter and 903 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: heard want to get married at the same castle that 904 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: the cases was married. 905 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 2: I got married twenty four years ago. 906 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 3: I got to do. Yes, there's a lot of money. 907 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, that's just I still got to do. 908 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, renovated exactly. We need a hunter of racks. 909 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 910 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 2: Racks. 911 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 4: Yes, that's the that's the starting price of just you 912 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm just getting the things. 913 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 2: Was like, we give you I'm gonna do damns. 914 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't. 915 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 4: I don't mind spending, you know. I just feel like 916 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 4: these moments are they are so special? You knowing so hard, yes, yes, 917 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 4: and been through so much. 918 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, I want to celebrate. I want everybody to 919 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 3: be there. I want to have a great time, and 920 00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna spend the money to do it. 921 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 2: Yes, if you extra workers on the weekend, I can help. 922 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 2: I need the money. Same if you have a dog 923 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 2: up the door, you know. Love wedding. 924 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the contradey you know, I mean you 925 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: might need a host of the reception just to do 926 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: the comedy. 927 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 4: See, this is what I'm talking about. You know, Black people, 928 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 4: we need to we need to work invoices. 929 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: I'm just talking would work here, definitely, no favorite. 930 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 3: You know I love that. I love it because I 931 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 3: do believe in paying for your friends businesses. You know 932 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 3: what I mean. Support your friends. 933 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 5: I loved and support. 934 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 2: One hundred thousand and now. 935 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 5: That right. 936 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: We appreciate you for doing. Thank you, Sure you check 937 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 2: out on brand with Jimmy Fallon is out right now 938 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 2: on these see and thank you so much at the 939 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. Good morning, Thank you y'all. 940 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 3: I love you so much. 941 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 4: Hold up every day I wake up, wake your ass 942 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 4: up the Breakfast Club finish for y'all. 943 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 5: Done,