1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to j dot Il, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: What's Up? Everybody of This is Jill Scott's, Ada, Graydon 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Danceler and la Ea st Clair. We're just giving all 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: our governments, you know what I'm saying. And this is 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: j dot il the podcast. We are gonna be talking 6 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: about what's wrong with them? What's wrong with them? That 7 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: means we are confounded. Yes, you perplexed if you will, confused? Yeah, 8 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: yeah about work that well it going on here. I'm 9 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: about throwing bewildered. Bewildered, Yeah, go ahead and throw and 10 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: bewilder only these things. It's a deep eyebrow forehead crease, 11 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's a deep one for me. 12 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: You know, just deep y'all know that feeling when that 13 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: when that first part, Yeah, when you have to when 14 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: you don't understand so bad you gotta open your mouth 15 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: and saying that he turned you get turned your head 16 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: to the side and you open your mouth like when 17 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: you get that something stink look on your face or 18 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: when you can't finish that. I just just yeah, what's 19 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: wrong with him? Um, here's one I am thoroughly confused by. 20 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: By exceptionally long nails. I gotta go ahead, go ahead 21 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: and jail if you say um. Because I had some 22 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: nails once and clipped a friend, okay, a dear trusted 23 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: friend that I love so very much, and I was like, 24 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm never going to get those sharp nails again. I 25 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: don't want an a coutrement that's gonna change my life. 26 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: You hear me, because when you say you clipped, when 27 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: you say you clipped them, three yeah, what did that mean? 28 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: You clipped them? Like my girlfriend? I hurt my friend. 29 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: I heard my couchick, I heard with those long nails, 30 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't understand how anybody. I'm confused, 31 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: Like how does anybody wipe well? I was thinking that 32 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: with the stilettos. Have you seen a still? I don't 33 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: have myself worn a still? Little set? Many a town 34 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: you have, I have helped me. We just tell you. 35 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: I got into this full set lifestyle the last year 36 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: off of my thirties because I was like, here, I here, 37 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm thirty nine years old. I have never had a 38 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: full set, and oh my god, that was a problem. Yes, yes, right, okay, 39 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: you get how I got there, right, But once I 40 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: got there, oh my god, I got addicted. I was 41 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: picking up pictures. I was sending pictures to my nail tech, 42 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: old boot, can you do this? Can you do that? 43 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: And they got longer and longer. Now I've never been 44 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: at CARDI level. No, never done that. However, I have 45 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: learned how to get a very good wipe out. You 46 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: have to pad so yes, it doesn't doesn't only cost 47 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: you money with the nail tech, but it also cost 48 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: you money in toilet paper. And then you also have 49 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: to be concerned about the environment as well, because you 50 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: don't want a situation right. But you have to pad 51 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: the hand, wrap it around the hand several times, yes, 52 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: several times around the hand, right, and then you just 53 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: have to do a swipe, several extra swipes to make 54 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: sure nothing is left. Have you ever knicked yourself the 55 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: beginnings before you in the very beginnings, I did nick. 56 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: No blood. No, there was no injury involved. But there 57 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: was a quick nick. Yes, there was a quick nick. 58 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: But I gained was that wonderful feeling when you're explaining 59 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: some ship and your nails are long. Ah, there's no 60 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: feeling like the hand when the hand gestures are going 61 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: and you're like and there's something about the way, the 62 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: bitch comes out when your hands up, when your nails 63 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: are long, bitch, because what had happened? You opening open closure? 64 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Because there and then when you get very upset you 65 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: get with the clapping and the nails are long. I 66 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: can tell you where a tap at you when you 67 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: want them to. Just that love is tapping pointing out 68 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: some ship when you got your nails. Let's see that 69 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: right there. I most definitely was. I would love to 70 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: to use it as a as as a way to 71 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: explain many things. It's a lot of things that we 72 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: as women go through and I am. I tried it 73 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: and it just didn't work out. For let's talk about it. 74 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: Can I bring up a subject that I was so 75 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: surprised that you two didn't ride with me on them 76 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: And y'all was like, what's wrong with y'all women that 77 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: do this kind of stuff? Yea about two. I know 78 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: exactly what you're about to say, because all like, what's 79 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: wrong with them? How can you even try to teach 80 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: your stuff? Wax? What's wrong with y'all that you don't 81 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: get your stuff? Wax? Lights? Liyah? I saw lights, I 82 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: heard a sound, and I I left the building. My 83 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: spirit said no, no, and I left with half a 84 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: coach because on the first rip you left. On the 85 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: first the first rip, I tears jumped out of my eyes. 86 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: I saw lights, I heard a sound, and I thought 87 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: to myself, this is not for me. There are many 88 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: ways skin a cat, ha ha. But on many ways 89 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: to skin a cat, and I know how to do 90 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: that's not the way your cat is getting skinned. I 91 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: can't do that. I just not. There are many roads 92 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: to the same destination with razor bumpage on the way 93 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: back here, y'all. I don't feel that there's anything wrong 94 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: per se with doing it. It doesn't work for me. 95 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: I have done it several times. I gave it a 96 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: second round because I believe in set and chances they 97 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: and so I did give it a second chance. But 98 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell you, that's what that sound was. 99 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: Wow wow wow. I no, no, ma'am, no, ma'am no, sir. 100 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: We can do a lot of things that I can 101 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: make designs and all kinds of things, but I cannot. 102 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: I cannot. I'm so sorry. I'll just need a good 103 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: sugar wax to put you in the field of position 104 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: and rip got from behind. I'm gonna tell you it 105 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: ain't nothing like it. That sounds like lucy to me. 106 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: I won't say this. The first time that I wore 107 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: a nice summer dress and the rafter that's that first 108 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: little breeze on. Oh yeah, it was heaven. That's how 109 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: I got the second chance. That's why I gave it 110 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: the second chance. Yeah, that first breeze that got to 111 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: her after that, So I throw that What wrong with them? 112 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: What's wrong with them? At y'all? Yeah? It was okay, 113 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: So what's wrong with what's wrong with me? I just no, ma'am, No, sir, 114 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: I've been hit by a car before. I did not, 115 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, enjoy that either, and I would like to 116 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: avoid that as well. Yeah, I don't that to be 117 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: your comparison. I'm sorry, Jill, I'm sorry. I'm just you know, 118 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: I have a high threshold for pain, but not for bullshit, 119 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: like there's another way to do this, and if the 120 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: other way takes a little longer, and then of course, 121 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: if you're using neat or nair or something like that, 122 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: you definitely have to soak with it because it's not pleasant. 123 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: It's not a pleasant smell, you know what I mean. 124 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: It takes a while to get rid of that smell. 125 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: So you don't want any parts of that, So you know, 126 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: you gotta plan, you know, a couple of days ahead 127 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: of time. Yea. For those of us who are of 128 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: the you know, rounder and softer sort, definitely had moments 129 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: where I've had to incorporate the husband into the activities. Yes, 130 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: and I need you to make sure that I've gotten 131 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: all that needs to be gotten and all that needs 132 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: to just a little just you know, inspector number thirty seven. 133 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Listen, they make all kinds 134 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: of little new gadgets and hoopity, who's they got at 135 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: that um that has a what you call it on it? 136 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: It's razor on one half and the other half is 137 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: a is a like a mechanical razor like ah, like 138 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: four clippers that was to shape up so it's a 139 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: razor on one side and clippers on the other. That 140 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: is all waterproof. I mean, there's options. I I understand 141 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: a nice neatly cared for space. Y'all just gave me 142 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: another one's wrong with and based on that, what's wrong 143 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: with them? That they always want to use the the 144 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: clippers on your stuff? Here? Yea? They had a man 145 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: be like, let me kick you up. What's wrong with them? 146 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: I like that. That's some mice time. I like. I 147 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: like the blowing part, you know when when they didn't 148 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: like a little the extra hair. I like that part. 149 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 1: That's small. I just think it's weird women asking that, like, 150 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: what's wrong? What's wrong with it? You don't like my shape? 151 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: You don't like just a natural shape? I think I 152 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: think that's quite pleasant. That's a nice it's a nice 153 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,239 Speaker 1: afternoon movie. I'm going to step out of this particular conversation. 154 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: I have a person in my life who has not 155 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: signed the papers to release this information. There, you know. Therefore, 156 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna leave that. One must protect 157 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: the innocent. The innocent must be protected. That's even a 158 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: halfway innocent, because you know, right, but everybody knows we nasty. 159 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: Let's just keep it there. M not like that about you. 160 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: You do as well? Yeah, I'm like that. I told you. 161 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: I get it from watching jail Nasty girls. Okay girls, 162 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: you okay, outside of the nasty round note one war, 163 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: what's wrong with them? Because this is the COVID was 164 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: wrong with him? And I've been feeling this late. What's 165 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: wrong with them? That you got your mask on, but 166 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: it's like not on your nose, it's underneath, like what 167 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: you think? What's what you think you're doing right there? 168 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: If those are holes, those are two holes that it's 169 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: coming out and it's going in. What's what the people 170 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: walking the mask only on the mouth and not the nose. 171 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: I just I need you to change what's wrong with them? 172 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: The change at this point is it a hundred thousand 173 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: people a day? But maybe in the world state were 174 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: the last time I saw MSNBC, it was a thousand 175 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:56,479 Speaker 1: people and a thousand people day. We're done a thousand 176 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: people a day. We're dying COVID. Imagine if a thousand 177 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: puppies died people, Oh no, everyway wrong with these dog owners. 178 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: The world would be shut dolls. I'm just saying if 179 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: it were puppies, m cute, little furry, fuzzy puppies, they 180 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: ain't even got to bet that that's the truth. They 181 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: can be raggedy ass dogs were there. Since we're talking 182 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: about we were talking about dogs a little bit. I 183 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: want to understand what's wrong with the dog owners that 184 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: let their dogs pissing poop in the park that where 185 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: the children are supposed to play, and then they don't 186 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: clean up after you. I don't understand that. Oh girl, 187 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: let me tell you and get upset in my neighborhood 188 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: what they like to do. And me and the husband 189 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: lay in wait for him. They like to come in 190 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: front your house to hear me and I live in 191 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: the city. They like to come in front your house. 192 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: And that little patch of grass that be on the 193 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: other side of the sidewalk, they think that's not your 194 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: dad go on property. No, that's my property. And then 195 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: you let you a nasty dog poop right there, and 196 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: then you keep you look what They look around because 197 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: they know they're wrong. They look around because they know 198 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: they're wrong. And me and the team loved to open 199 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: the window. Don't let them see your face. You opened 200 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: the window. Make sure you pick that up and they jump, 201 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: they jump up. They don't know where the voice is 202 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: coming from. I had it, No you didn't. You didn't 203 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: have it, steaming pile of ship, that ship in front 204 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: of my house, Heather, yo, because I just that's a 205 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: that's a real problem in the city. And what Asian said, 206 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: don't let it go lightly. People that little strip of 207 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: land in between the street and the sidewalk. Like she said, 208 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: it's the part the houses. That's their ship, that's their tree, 209 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: that's still tree in their grass. That's right, man. Yeah, 210 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: my mother had to move out of the city because 211 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: there was too many I'm sorry, but gentrification brings white 212 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: people and dogs. Let's just keep it absolutely funky. And 213 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: as my mother likes to say, dogs bring rats because 214 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: rats like to eat ship. And I'm not gonna, you know, 215 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: just make do the numbers to do the man, I'm 216 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: gonna leave the rats eat ship. Do that. That's what 217 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: That's what my mama said. And that's that's a bad mom. 218 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: That's what girl. I don't know. I'm listening. I'm I'm 219 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: listening to Karema find out. I mean, I'm a google at. 220 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: I have a what's wrong with him? Mom? What's wrong 221 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: with him? Is? What is wrong with those girls who 222 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: do their eyebrows but they look like they're marking out 223 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: information on a document. It looked like a whole full sharpie, 224 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: like a whole sick you said, they like a redaction 225 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: with it looked like a redaction. Yes, what's wrong with them? 226 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: Like it's okay to have a natural brow. I'm good 227 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: with brows. I think all those brows have been around 228 00:14:53,960 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: since the seventies, sixties. Really, those brows that was the thing. 229 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: Some people just haven't let it go. I'm glad they're 230 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: not skinny no more. I'm glad we out to that phase. Yeah. 231 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: I didn't like skinny either. But these ones, these ones 232 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: are are in tents, you know, being on stage. Like eyebrows, 233 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: they do it help to express from a distance, You 234 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: get to see the person's What about the people that 235 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: don't be on stage for a living is what I'm saying. 236 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: Everybody looks like they're on stage. We're living and everything. 237 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: Everybody is like a home to me, everybody looks like 238 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: a hole. Listen, you can't say I dropped it. I 239 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: am shafe. You don't need to say, like where you 240 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: are hot. I watched black exploitation films growing up. Okay, 241 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: I watched black exploitation films now, and who was dressed 242 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: like a whole looks like everybody everywhere most of the time. Listen, 243 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not calling you out. I'm not 244 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: saying you a whole. I mean with your own pussy boo. 245 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't care the sures I don't care. What I'm 246 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: saying is there's a look. It's a seventies style prostitute 247 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: on the street, look and making fashion. Most folks getting 248 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: dressed up and going out now look like it looks 249 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: like a hole to me with a whole one in 250 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: sequenced skirt at the squitchy one stretch, I for one 251 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: miss whole fashion in my life. Who is this no 252 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: reason you have to stop? It really isn't. Yeah, I 253 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: don't understand, sir, you pull that skirt. I need to 254 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: reconnect with my whole fashions? All right? Well, what else 255 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: is wrong with him? But what's wrong with though? I 256 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: got got one the old forty five? I can't figure 257 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: out for the life of me, Like, who, seriously, seriously, 258 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: who doesn't know that? There? Orange? How? How do you 259 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: not see that you are not a human color? How 260 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: do you not know that? Jill? The level of denial 261 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: of that man is like monumental record breaking, as he 262 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: would like to say, never been done before, like this, 263 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: Oh my amazing. I'm just saying, like at that point 264 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: when you're in the Tanning booth, right and you're like, 265 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna go check the progress, right, and 266 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: you go out there and the color has gone from 267 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, quite quite quite to actual uh birth Sienna. Right, 268 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: there's no point in which you're like, you know what 269 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: this is, this is the goal? This is it? How 270 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: how is it color blindness? Because people, you know, people 271 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: are peachy colors. You know, people are peach. There's some 272 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: golden there, there's you know, there's some, but the orange 273 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: is not a human color. I saw a girl on 274 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: a television show the other day, I think it's called 275 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: the Christie's and that baby was orange too, and I said, well, 276 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: that's of my goodness. How that you don't know that 277 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: you're orange? I think you don't care, Jill. I think 278 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody walks down the aisle like a 279 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: sir that orange is looking great on you today, this level. 280 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: You need to keep it right there, like, no, he 281 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: doesn't care. I think it's the same thing when the 282 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: people get the plastic surgery and it's like you're not blinking, 283 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: You're not you're not blinking, you're not you're not smiling, 284 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: you're not smizing, you're not anything, you know, So I 285 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: think that's the same kind of vibe there. I think 286 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: people go in thinking that they're going to improve something 287 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: they don't like and they just don't know when to stop. 288 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 1: But in this particular person and his issues, that he 289 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: is delusional. I mean, I don't want to be an 290 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: armchair psychiatrist, but let's just keep it one. He's been 291 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: accused of delusions of bran and all of that, and 292 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: it's something about that like with the with the with 293 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: the cosmetic surgery, and I know that forty five hasn't 294 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: had any of that. But but wait, since we're on 295 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: the what's wrong with them? I saw something. It looked 296 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: like the lady had literally taken out at least four ribs, 297 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: and I thought, your body can't sustain uh, the kind 298 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: of of weight that goes on a body, or or 299 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: or walking with with your ribs. Your ribs are there 300 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: for a reason, you know, like you or it just 301 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: seems to go. I said, I've seen a lady with 302 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: a whole kitchen sink in her backside. But but don't 303 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: we have there There there is an actual there's an 304 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: actual condition that goes along with this that really may 305 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: have some might be related on some level to like 306 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: eating disorders or people who still believe themselves to be overweight, 307 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: but they're not. So it's likea so, yeah, where the 308 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: thing is. That doesn't really matter what you see. It 309 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: is kind of how they interpreted what they see. So 310 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: this is that that. I mean, that's a real thing. 311 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: It just so happens that you can have that and 312 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: still be a whole entire I keep thinking you're saying, ho, 313 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: a whole entire, A whole, a whole entire. Hello are 314 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: you wow? That was a beautiful defense as I don't 315 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: think that's why people got bathroom things in their booties. 316 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't think it's because they got body dysmorphia. Especially yeah, 317 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: I have. I've been having issues with that lately. Excuse me, 318 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: as the black woman's body continues, Well, you know we're 319 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: if we're going there, but we're not. Obviously venus hot 320 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: and tought Sarah Bartman. You know, it was a big 321 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: influence on the world, whether or not society wants to 322 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: claim her um to be uh taken prisoner and her 323 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: body shown the way that it was um and too. 324 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: I guess what they prostituted her as well. M say 325 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: her name again, Jill Sarah Bartman. Sarah Bartman. I think 326 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: like especially those who are manipulating their bodies to be 327 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: just like hers, and then what a proud, crazy circle 328 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: of now that the other races has figured it out, 329 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: now we're chasing them and we it's just I'm sorry, 330 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: I know that's a side. No, yeah, because I was 331 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: gonna I was actually gonna bring that up because I'm 332 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, Yeah, well, what we have is this 333 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: obsessive and um culture that says, oh, I wanna I 334 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: want to look like a black woman, but I only 335 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: want to look like a black woman. That I feel 336 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: is this, uh, this exaggerated version in my mind, even 337 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: though we all we exist in all of these different 338 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: ways in real time, but they're interested it and the 339 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: one that feels, you know, exaggerated. So it's like everything 340 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: that people are that they say they want to do, 341 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: then we come behind them and we we hate it. 342 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: We don't want to be associated with it. Black people 343 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: wanna we want to disassociate ourselves with anything that feels 344 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: and looks black, particularly around black beauty. Until white wade. 345 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: White people they accepted and wanted and do everything that 346 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: they can to be associated with it. But I see 347 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: that with black culture with women period, because even stuff 348 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: that we grew up here. Oh that's ghetto. Don't do that. 349 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: Then it ends up one, you know, at in fashion week, 350 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: and suddenly we wanted to because you start seeing it 351 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: amongst black elite women, black women who would never wear 352 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: bamboo earrings, black women who would never wear braids, who 353 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: would do everything they could to assimilate. But suddenly they 354 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: see it on the runway and now it's like, oh, yeah, 355 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: I'm I'm black, and the black I'm black. But that 356 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: was hood and ghetto two years ago. You didn't want 357 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: to be associated with that. I think it's a little 358 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: backward to I mean, you know, I know he wasn't 359 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: talking about that though, but but we're talking about what's 360 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: wrong with them. Well, that's white supremacy, that's what's wrong 361 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: with them. Yeah, that is you don't want my blues. 362 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: You want my rhythm, but you want my blues. That's right. 363 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: So you see a lot of Caucasian people with this 364 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: very very strange, strange color. And for that matter, we're 365 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of African people or people sended of Africa. 366 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot of them bleaching their skin and 367 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: it's that pinky color. It's a weirdy, pinky more color. 368 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: What is it? It's very very strange, and I'm trying 369 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: to figure out my knee. Like when that that skin 370 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: looked like right there, it's not even that color. It's 371 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: it's it's very strange. It's a little bit more, it's 372 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: a little more mad. It's a little dusty. It's a 373 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: rosy kind of like my water jug, you know. It's 374 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like a rosy, peachy, creamy color. 375 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: That's when you pull a scab off to so, okay, 376 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: I got you. Something is you know, there's there's definitely 377 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: do think that America has a problem with overall dysmorphia, 378 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: you know, be not being able to see what, you know, 379 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: what's really happening, you know, far as bleaching the skin 380 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: or or or Caucasian people being orange. You know, it's 381 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: it's a lot of mean well, we I hate to 382 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: we literally it's going to always come back to this. 383 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the whole series uh uh that 384 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: Kenya Barris just did and every single show was because 385 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: of slavery. We're just gonna come right back to the 386 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: same thing. It's anti blackness. It's a worldwide problem and issue, 387 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: and so that right there has all of these different 388 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: little spokes to it, and you're gonna find those things. 389 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: It's so yeah, the dysmorphia part of it, just like 390 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: anything else that doesn't only exist within the within the 391 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: sphere of anti blackness, but it's definitely a part of it. 392 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: You can see that as a tool or as a 393 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: little spoke on that wheel, because it's like, it's just 394 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: like anything else. They're gonna have an issue with something. 395 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: It's you're gonna you're gonna believe a lie for so 396 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: long that it just feels normal. It just feels like 397 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: it's just normalized. Oh well, this is just the way 398 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: this is supposed to be. There's nothing wrong with us, 399 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: We're just we're behaving normally. You just kind of normalize 400 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: this weird obsession hatred thing that people have. And I 401 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: I can't I don't see where that's gonna change if 402 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: we don't address you know, the granddaddy, If you don't 403 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: address the big problem, I don't see how we're gonna 404 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: get to the little problem and we just take our 405 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: features back. Can we just get that or at least 406 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: get our credit. That's where I was. I'm on just 407 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: the basic like I would like I would like I 408 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: would like small respect. I think that'd be nice. We'll 409 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: be back after the break. What does credit look like? 410 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: So in real time, what does this all look like? It? 411 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: This is? It looks like homage, So you actually say it, 412 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: you actually say this is? Uh. I think that's one 413 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: of the things that there is a a disconnect with 414 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: Africa in that sense because African people, I've a sleep, 415 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: this is a this is a continent. So there's different 416 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: cultures in different countries. The obviously different languages, many different languages. 417 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: And you know you're wearing a gayley, but you don't 418 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: know where the fabric is from, you know what I mean. 419 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: So it's the same kind of credit, like that's Ghanaian. 420 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: You know you're being deep. I'm like, you're wearing corn rolls. 421 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: I need you to not say that I got the 422 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: style from Chloe cardass sharing. Yeah yeah, yeah, but I 423 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: think it's the same thing, Like you have to show 424 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: respect all over the there are some things they are 425 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: not allowed to dabble in period. What is what is sacred? 426 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 1: They already ship damn my man, I don't bye, Hi Hi, 427 00:28:51,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: Hi's really really good question. I wanted my hairstyles to 428 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: be sacred because we hold this texture. But I see 429 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: that couldn't happen. Um No, there's wigs for that color obviously. 430 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: You know. You can tan or you can add um, 431 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: you can add color to yourself and then add dimensions 432 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: with makeup. Uh. Booties are off the off the list 433 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: because anybody can buy one. I guess my thing is 434 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: like one of my favorite parts of Black Panther. Oh yeah, 435 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts of Black Panther is when 436 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: they escape and from the Capitol and they are headed 437 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: to go see Baku to ask him can they use 438 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: his army? And they get there and they find out 439 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: that he has you know, that he has child. And 440 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: so when they get there, they have a little you know, 441 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: they have a little flower and um and the white 442 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: guys there with them, and they are about to do 443 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: the ceremony to bring him back, and so um Umbaku 444 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,479 Speaker 1: then turns to the white guy and he says, turn around. 445 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: And not only does he make the white man turn around, 446 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: he also turns around because he recognizes that this is 447 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: part of their ritual and their culture and everybody doesn't 448 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: get to see it, not even him, even though he's 449 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: a fellow. Will Condon and So what that said to 450 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: me was that as black people, especially people of diaspora, 451 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: we share so much with the cultures where we are that, um, 452 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: we don't hold anything as we don't make other people 453 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: turn around. Everybody gets to see, everybody gets to partake. 454 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: And even though it would be great if they could 455 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: partake and also give the credit, I just personally think 456 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: that without certain things that they don't get to see, 457 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: not for you, no invites to the how do we 458 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: do don't give out invites to the cookout? How do 459 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: we give to become they aunties and uncles now in 460 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: our families? So how do we do that? Right? Where 461 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 1: where is that line drawn? Is there space to create 462 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: sacrament where there wasn't there any before? Damn dang Asian 463 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: there there. It's like there's no hiding place, there's no 464 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: hiding We already give it away. I think that we've 465 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: given away a lot of ourselves, so much of ourselves, 466 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: and we don't even know how to recognize ourselves. Well. 467 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: I believe it starts within the family. Like one thing 468 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,959 Speaker 1: last year that I started doing with my family was 469 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: created traditions. Traditions are I feel like, extend to kind 470 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: of the way that we build culture and the way 471 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: we protect culture, and it has to kind of begin 472 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: in the home. So certain things that we do with 473 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: just each other is what we do to honor our ancestors, 474 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: honor each other within our home. And that was part 475 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: of the project that we brought a besa butler. Earlier 476 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: where I was talking about it, I had done some 477 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: research to try to find someone who was like a 478 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: quilte master to do a heirloom piece for my family, 479 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: so that as we created these moments, um these traditions, 480 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: that we also had elements to the traditions that were 481 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: to our family. Because you know what made me think 482 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: about it was Kinteke, Right, So every every family has 483 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: their own that that's that's that's that's specific to their family. 484 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: So it's like, well, what does my family have that's 485 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: just ours, that's just just great and danceller. If you're 486 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: a great a danceler, you get to have that or 487 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: you get to know that. So for me, I just 488 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: feel like it kind of starts in your home and 489 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: our house, right, and you create sacraments there because that's 490 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: those that's the hiding place. Is there any possibility this 491 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: could ever go outside the home. Is there any way 492 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: that we get ever create some new cultural tradition that 493 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: they're not they don't want in on, and we won't 494 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: give it to them. Well, I guess it's worth a try, 495 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Who knows, can't you? You 496 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: can't predict the future. But but I think if we 497 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: had something that we could hold to heart, that that 498 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: meant something to us, and then then we might we 499 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: might care for it differently, you know. Um and if 500 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: you're in a new if you're a different mind. I 501 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: put this way. At one point, there was no quansa, 502 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: right right, My thing is listen as at one point 503 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: there was no Quansa, and now there's a Quansa. You know, 504 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: at one point, June tenth was a local tradition and 505 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: now it's a national one. But they're about to start 506 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: participating nat though Asia. That's that's about. That's a wrap 507 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: that's about to be inclusive, is about to be inclusive. 508 00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: That's a wrap. I always think about jazz, you know, uh, 509 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: jazz in those smoky basements, you know the beginnings of 510 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: jazz and how okay, let's even go to black Lily 511 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: about that. Let's talk about something that we were we 512 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: all were called. We were there, you know for Black 513 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: Lily and what that energy was. Black Lily was a 514 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: a jam session that was hosted by Jazzy Fat Nasty's 515 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: and it was created I would say it was created 516 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: by them and the roots. The roots are a big 517 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: portion of um of that and um, it's a place 518 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: where I would call it a shed where singers and 519 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: musicians could hone their craft and you know, um learn 520 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: basically learn on stage life happening right now, which was 521 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: very beneficial. Uh. Once we let the industry in, once 522 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: we let um people outside of our culture are particular 523 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: culture in, it got filtered. Something happened. And you know, 524 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: it's the same thing as soon as we we have 525 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: to find something sacred to each person, to each family, 526 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: something that's important and it's only and then and you 527 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: can't let anybody else into it, which is very Uh, 528 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: we're sharing people. Well, this is what we do. Well, yeah, 529 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: I mean even down to like so, I love West 530 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: African dance. I've been taking it for a while and 531 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: you know, even when we're in class, you know, our 532 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: teachers will often say, oh, well we're gonna learn this 533 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: dance today. But you know, typically between ethnic groups, this 534 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: dance is not seen, and there are still dances that 535 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: are not seen. I mean that literally are you know, 536 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: between ethnic groups that are less than seven miles away 537 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: from one another. So that and and so it is 538 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: not un African to be specific to small local spaces 539 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: or families like that is actually totally African, totally within 540 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: our you know, our lineage. I think it's totally and 541 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: with our with and within our rights. And from a 542 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: musical standpoint, those same things are are true. I agree 543 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: with you, Jill in the sense that it's like, yeah, 544 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: I mean there's certain drum patterns, certain certain actual drums 545 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: and and and and instruments, and all of those things 546 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: are true. We've had to share also for survival. I 547 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: think probably too because of the fact that just being 548 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: able to tie us back to our roots and the 549 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: diaspora has just been so spread out, and then we 550 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: get there and then we just make something new. So 551 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: that's another way that people have, you know, learned things. 552 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: But like turning inward, I think is stuff definitely our 553 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: right and definitely be a way that we could go 554 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: move forward and try to say, okay, listen, we can 555 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: always decide to start from scratch. I'm sorry turning inward. 556 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to work on my annunciation for you. I 557 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: thought you said the N word. I just want to 558 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: make sure I knew what you mean. Mamah. Yeah, that's one. 559 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: That's one that's that's specifically ours. That that's one that's 560 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: specifically our. That is, it's not sacred, but it but 561 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: it ain't. But for you, it's not. It's not turn around, 562 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: it's not yes. And that's the only thing that we have. 563 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: The people that the others know that there may be 564 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 1: a ramification if you do attempt. I think that's the 565 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: only thing that black people have, Isn't that's terrible best, 566 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: that's a that's it that it's not our turn. If 567 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: you go to a hip hop shows, to a hip 568 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: hop show, it don't even matter because everybody don't religions, no, no, 569 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: what they won't say. They won't say it with you 570 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: if you say it in the right sentence. Because I 571 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: want to see Kendrick Lamar and we was in there 572 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: and uh, they definitely wanted to say we're gonna be 573 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: all right. They wanted to sing that. But when I 574 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: said black don't crack, they just say that I'm proud 575 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: of instruction. I think he not only m C two 576 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: that kind of give instruction, or like, I will say this. 577 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: I went to an Anderson Pact show once, me and 578 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: Jason and the song where he's like, uh ho ass niggas. 579 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 1: Let me say he started it and then he stopped 580 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: it because he looked at that audience and he was like, 581 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna go to another one, y'all. That's what we 582 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: appreciate that as black people said, shout out jority white crowd, 583 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: we were like, yeah, let's go to the next one. 584 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one. I've actually never written 585 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: it in a song anywhere. Yeah, I mean neither. Look 586 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: at me. I'm auder the jail. I'm going through all 587 00:38:53,520 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: my jail songs, like, oh do you remember me? I 588 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: don't know. No I went. I'm trying to think I 589 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: did a song with Jeezy. I'm like that, I's fed. 590 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm pretty sure I did not. 591 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, it looks like that's the word that's sacred 592 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: because it's not our it's not the skin color, it's 593 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: not our hairstyles, it's not our music, it's not our religion, 594 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: it's not our man it's not our women. Yeah, it 595 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: looks like that's the that's the words. Do we embrace that? 596 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: I mean, are we disgusted or do we say, you 597 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: know what? If that's it, then we hold firm. I 598 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: would just like the same fear. I would like to 599 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: create something else too that has the same fear around it. 600 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: That's saying that I would like to I don't know 601 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: what that is, because we're already giving out so many 602 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: things or been taken from us. Just one more thing 603 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: that would prevent you from I don't know what's going 604 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: to happen to me if I do this. I was 605 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: just like that. I wish you could have happened with 606 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: braids and locks. I would have liked that to happen 607 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: with braids and locks. Yeah, there's something sacred about that 608 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: about you know, the whole process of having somebody you know, 609 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: put their energy into your hair and you know, create 610 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: a lock out of of you know, regular African American hair. 611 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: I was supposed but I mean I didn't have a 612 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 1: better word for that, but out of your coils, out 613 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: of your hair, that there's something special about that. But 614 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: it can now be manipulated and yeah, you know, for 615 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: for some reason I trust. I trust white people with 616 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: with locks a little bit more community like you. You 617 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: probably you were probably all right, yeah, And I feel 618 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: like they're more in harmony or um aware. You know 619 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: of what original man looks like, so they're attempting to 620 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: be that, and it looks more like an homage instead 621 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: of a whole you know, grabbing run. I can't take that. 622 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't take that grabbing run out here. 623 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Hair is hard for me. 624 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: Hair is hard for me. I won't even lie to you. 625 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: I have a very difficult time looking at locks and 626 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: braids or white people. I don't I don't know what 627 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: why that particular thing strikes a chord with me, um 628 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: but that it always feels disrespectful. I don't know. I 629 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm sure I can choose any number of 630 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: things that are more disrespectful than that, But it is 631 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: something about that that is just so disrespectful to me, 632 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: like just stop, just stop. I don't feel I don't 633 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: feel bigged up or honored in that moment. I just 634 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: feel like you try to force a square peg. I 635 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: don't even do that, that you're hair and even that 636 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: It took a lot of determination, It took a lot 637 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: of time and energy, and a lot of not watching it, 638 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of hate. When they 639 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: go to the islands and get them braids on the beach, 640 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I do not like that. I do not 641 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: like that. I do not like that. And I want 642 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: to be able to say I don't like don't do that. 643 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: I really want to be able to say that, and 644 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: and and really not be interpreted as saying I don't 645 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: want your solidarity. I don't want you to, you know, 646 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: to enjoy or to be a friend. I don't I 647 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: don't want to be This person was like, oh, you, 648 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: I have all these stipulations, but I want to be 649 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: able to say I don't like that, don't do that, 650 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: and you to just be like, okay, you know what, 651 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: all right, because I'm just not you know, I don't 652 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: want to wear a kilt. I'm not going to just 653 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: show up at your family's house and a kilt and 654 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: just I'm not going to do it. But we are 655 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 1: not going out of our way to play the bagpipe. Well, okay, 656 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: so let me enter here because I just got a 657 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: note from a black man. I spent a lot of 658 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: time with who said, but what about black women and 659 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: blond hair? So there black people that have blond hair, 660 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: National women who die there hair blond? Is there the same? 661 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: I just on that note when you said that, I said, 662 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 1: I say, as a black woman who's hair blind stuff, 663 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: I say, no, I mean my hair is currently blind. 664 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 1: So I will say, funk out of here with that bullshit. 665 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: I love that stuff, like the intellectual pre spot like 666 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: we did that you're looking for that is. That is 667 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: my official response to that. I have this positional hair 668 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 1: in general, and I love you black man who offered 669 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: that particular this love out of here with that bullshit. 670 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: I do feel like, does it like hair? You know, 671 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: it grows out of our heads and uh in other 672 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: places on our bodies. If it's straight or curly or 673 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: whatever you want to do with it. Is it's a couture, mall. 674 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: It's it's it's that's what it is. And if you 675 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: shave your head tomorrow, you're still gonna be black that part. 676 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't make difference. You're stupid. And I just think, 677 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: don't y'all think that it's something that happens between women, 678 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: whether it be your mom, your auntie, you becausein you're 679 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: big sister or whatever. But growing up as a black girl, 680 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: it's just something that happens sitting in between some legs, 681 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, having a hole, the smell 682 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: of blue stuff like that Coco and love scent. My 683 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: I was in the hair supply with with Nina yesterday 684 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 1: and she was talking about how her friends would talk 685 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: about old school hair products but she didn't remember me 686 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: using those. And we were walking down this this, this, 687 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: in this in this store and they had a bunch 688 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: of old school product and I said, yes, I did. 689 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: You just don't remember, baby, Like I said, when you 690 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: were a little I used pink all moisture, that smell, 691 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: and I said, I said, you know, I moved on 692 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: because by the time you were old enough to to remember, 693 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: they had more natural hair products. Yes, and then in 694 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: the same store they had um Nature's Blessing. Do you 695 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 1: remember that yestreen? Yeah, the green said that's rosemary and now, 696 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: yeah it's a good product. It still use a main intail, 697 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: main intail, right, So my friend invented that big black 698 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 1: it was I'm not sure if it was sold off. Yeah, 699 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: But because we are in this capitalistic society, we tend 700 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: to sell our stuff to that part because you know 701 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: who doesn't to have some money, you know what I mean? Like, 702 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: so that that land that your great grandfather you know, 703 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: literally slaved for, you know, great great grandfather were more 704 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,919 Speaker 1: great um slaved for, and the next generation held onto 705 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: that land in the next generation. But she always once 706 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: a condo in Miami. So shame the land land is gone. 707 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: So that land, you know, in order to get that 708 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: condo in Miami. You know, like we have to hold 709 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,479 Speaker 1: onto things that matter to us, um and we can't 710 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: be mad when other people jump into it because they 711 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: have the ability to or or we can't be mad. Yeah, 712 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: but do you think we see the whole idea of 713 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: us devaluing It is just really a fine biduct of 714 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: the whole thing from the beginning, it's like, yeah, well, 715 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: only take from you, but we also want to teach 716 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: you and make you devalue. Well is that we took 717 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: and make you feel like I don't want that? It's 718 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: not that important. Blacks, you know, like, oh your hair 719 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: is ugly, your hair's nappy. It has not in the 720 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 1: eighties blocks of black people wasn't always the prettiest thing. 721 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 1: So you know, what I mean. People people have things 722 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: to say, and depending on why island you are, that's 723 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:22,439 Speaker 1: a whole class issue. Come on, come on, I appreciate you, guys. 724 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,959 Speaker 1: I appreciate this conversation. We're gonna take a quick break 725 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 1: and then we'll be right back like, yeah, what's wrong 726 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: with him? Give me one? Oh, what's wrong with him? 727 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,879 Speaker 1: Give you another one? Um, y'all know, when we really 728 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: originally thought of this thought, there was a person I 729 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: had in mind because I was like, what's wrong with him? 730 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: He is so vocal on the black experience, and he 731 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: is so talented, and he went to um Harvard And 732 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: I've been looking at this man for years and I 733 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: was like, but he always been single? What's wrong with them? 734 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: Some men really don't want to settle down until their 735 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: dick is broke. And Um, that sentence was gonna go. 736 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,720 Speaker 1: I really I really feel like that, Like they wait 737 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: until they're like, you know, forty eight, forty nine, and 738 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden they want to settle down 739 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: and get married when the dick don't work like they 740 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: used to anymore. Uh huh huh, and they feel like 741 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: they've had you know, they've sold all the oats they 742 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: possibly could. Then they want you to marry them and 743 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: love them and take care of them when they get 744 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: into yes and and be okay with the dick they don't. 745 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm silent because I agree. Damn. I mean, at the 746 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: end of the day, let's say this particular man for 747 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: this type of them, that particular kind of um. I mean, 748 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: the idea is that they just don't want to do 749 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: any of the work. They don't want to do any 750 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: of the work, and they avoid the work as long 751 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: as they possibly can. I need to avoid that work 752 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: for a very, very, very long time because I don't 753 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: want to have to deal with that. And really it's 754 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,240 Speaker 1: not even so a situation where it's a lot of judgment. 755 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 1: It's hard to deal with your stuff. It is very 756 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: hard to recover from trauma. It's very hard to see 757 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: yourself mirrored back at you. And when you have a 758 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: mate that is, they might as well just be a mirror, 759 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: because all it is is you've got to sit there 760 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: and deal with yourself. At some point you're gonna have 761 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: to do that. And that's work. That's the relationship work. 762 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,879 Speaker 1: Mugs don't really talk about. It's the self work. It's 763 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: the actual self work. And I'm not saying that single 764 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: people ain't doing self work. So whoever's gonna listen to 765 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 1: this and at the ship out of me about it, 766 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying that there is a specific kind of self 767 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: work that you that you cannot avoid when you're mate 768 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: it with somebody. It's just you can't avoid that part 769 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: of it. And if you want to avoid it, then 770 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 1: you just avoid meeting with somebody for a long period 771 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: of time. And I was gonna say that's also I 772 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: thought one of the answers to it's like when you 773 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,280 Speaker 1: when something like that, we're the person that I was describing, 774 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, he also has options, and he has time, options, 775 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: time and resources because trust me, the one that came 776 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: that don't came by a house. The person I'm talking about, 777 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:02,879 Speaker 1: the one that ain't got no resources. Uh, he's gonna 778 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 1: get married. He's gonna get murged quick. He's gonna get murged. 779 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 1: Yeah man, yeah, absolutely, you know what I mean. So yeah, 780 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna go ahead and get hooked that one. Yeah, yes, 781 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: that started. I gotta hold my mouth. What's wrong with 782 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: a major hit me? Ah? Okay, Um, she's trying to 783 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: figure out how she could be nice. This is what 784 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 1: I know. All right, well I have one, but it's 785 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: it's really recent, like as in the past twenty four hours. 786 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 1: Give it, yes, Yes, let's go. I am so irritated 787 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,760 Speaker 1: with the fact that people cannot have, um a multi 788 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: layer conversation, that everything gotta be all or nothing. This 789 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 1: is the thing is that I think that what's wrong 790 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: with black people that we are we really at this 791 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 1: point where we can't have like a layered discourse about 792 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: something that's valid without throwing in and also without throwing 793 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: in extra sexism, misogyny, racism, classism, colorism. Because I'm just like, 794 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 1: I'm looking at both sides very sad, very sad. I 795 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: think it's very sad. What's wrong not what's wrong with them, 796 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: what's wrong with us? What the hell is wrong with us? 797 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: While we can't have this conversation, we should be able 798 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: to talk to each other with respect, I'm sorry, and 799 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: we should be able to agree to disagree. Right, that's 800 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: too much. For some reason, something's happened to us. Well, 801 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 1: it's either all or nothing, you know, it's it's you 802 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 1: cannot have an opinion outside like for instance, the the 803 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: guy on the on the inter web that's what I'll 804 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: call it. Um the guy on Twitter who was like, uh, 805 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,919 Speaker 1: y'all think Jill Scott is attractive? I don't. I don't 806 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: see it. I don't understand it. He absolutely has the 807 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: right not to like me. Yeah. Yeah, but but it 808 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: wasn't necessary, is what it was. It wasn't necessary and 809 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 1: it was an unnecessary jab that was whack. This all 810 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 1: is true, But he has the right not to, you 811 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,879 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I appreciate all the people 812 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: who are like, oh, we just you know, how you 813 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 1: know people feel and that they appreciate me for who 814 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: I am and what I look like. And I was like, 815 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: that's what's up. But you know, he has the right 816 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: not to be feeling me. I'm not feeling everybody, but 817 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't go outside of my time to to express that. 818 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: We do have to remember that everything needs to be 819 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: said like you and young people have to remember it 820 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: was life here before you. Yeah, with love, shut the 821 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: funk up? What did I say? Yeah, we love, we love, 822 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 1: shut the funk up. I think it's gonna be a 823 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: lot of with loves out on this on this podcast. 824 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,400 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a lot of it because it's important 825 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: to establish the love. Amen. Every observation is just that, 826 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 1: not necessarily a judgment in any kind of way. Um, 827 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: And I just want to say that I don't know 828 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:42,959 Speaker 1: how to say it better than that. Bye, love that Bye. 829 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:54,799 Speaker 1: Until next time, y'all. How do you eat an elephant? One? Hey, y'all, 830 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: it's Eaves here, an executive producer on the show, popping 831 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 1: in to give you a resource related to the episode, 832 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 1: just in case you want to do a little bit 833 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: more research on something that was mentioned now. Jill mentioned 834 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: Sarah Bartman, also known as Sarkee Bartman or Degrading Lee 835 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,400 Speaker 1: as the hot in Top Venus, none of which were 836 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: her given name, but she was a Koi Koi woman 837 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: from southern Africa. She was exploited and her curvy body 838 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 1: was put on display for white folks to abuse. When 839 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: she died, she was dissected and her remains were sent 840 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: to a museum. Her story is, of course, much longer 841 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: and much more complex than that, and it's steeped in 842 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 1: all of the isms, but please read, watch, or listen 843 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,280 Speaker 1: to more about her history if you aren't already familiar 844 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: with it. I'll drop a link to an article about 845 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 1: Sarah Bartman in the episode description, thank you for listening 846 00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 1: to jil dot presents j dot il the Podcast. This 847 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 1: podcast is hosted by Jill Scott, Layah st Clair, and 848 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,720 Speaker 1: Agent Gaden Danceler. Its executive producers are Jill Scott, Shawn 849 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 1: g and Brian Calhoun. It's produced by Layah st Clair 850 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,800 Speaker 1: and me Eve Jeff Coke. The editing and sound design 851 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: for this episode we're done by Taylor Chacogne and I 852 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: Love you black Man who offered that, but with love 853 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: funk out of here with that bullshit bullshit, bullshit bullshit. 854 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 1: We love wellove, what love shuts sunk up? With love 855 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 1: fun out of here with that bullshit. What's glove shut 856 00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 1: the funk up? Bullshit bullshit, what love shut the fuck up? 857 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: This love fun out of here with that bullshit my 858 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: love shut fuck up bullshit bullshit? 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