1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: This is Mick shot streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Savannah Humoller, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 3: And it is a Tuesday, which is actually a Friday. 8 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: Where's our fight song? Friday? We do have a show tomorrow, 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: but technically in the Cowboys world, it's Friday. Out on 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: the practice field, you, Chris, why are they on the 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: practice field? I thought this was a rejuvenation day, Mickey 12 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: walk through. 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 4: It's what they normally Okay, all. 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: Right, all right, I thought, I say pants, no, no, no, no, no. 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: Helmets by choice. No, it's November. There, it's no pad November. 16 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: But this is they were. 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 4: They were trying out their color rush helmets. That's the 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 4: only guys. 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: That had noose on. 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So when you said fifty nine, you know, 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 4: it came to my mind. 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: Well wait wait, I said fifty nine before we were 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 3: on the air. Yes, okay, there were numbers that were 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: thrown out. I have no idea what they had to 25 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: do anything with. But as as you all know the 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: way we keep track of numbers is we correlate them 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: to cowboys, right, and so number fifty nine, who's your number? 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: Fifty nine? 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: It was Derek Brownlow. 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: Derek Brownlow is your number fifty nine. 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: Don't remember? 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 4: I think he was your teammate. 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 5: Let me look it up. 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: Brownlow was in the ninety one. 35 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm not that farg going. 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: So who is your fifty nine, Jesse Penn? Yeah, I 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 3: need to look at it. 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: Ernie Simms. 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: Ernie Simms was fifty nine, Yeah, for six pick in 40 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: the draft out of Florida State for one si. Yeah, 41 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: and wait, I need I need to look see if 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: I got mine right before I say it on the air, 43 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 3: it was that fifty nine. Oh no, he wasn't fifty nine. 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: Never mind, I won't say it. That guy Brown was 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: fifty nine. 46 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 5: That's correct, yep, yep. 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: And that win. 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 4: Remember when everybody made a big deal last year because 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 4: they signed Tat McKinley. He wore number fifty nine and 50 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 4: I don't think he ever played. 51 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: Is that a big deal everybody? 52 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 4: It was another name? Remember a guy that was high 53 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 4: draft pick, high draft pick, and they brought him in and. 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: He was a high draft. Yeah, it was just another 55 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: draft bus Huh. That's why I was waiting for drafted 56 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: free agency. 57 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: But that's a fun game to play every now and then. 58 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: Is just throw out a number and who do you 59 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: remember was your cowboy player that comes to mind when 60 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: you say the number. 61 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: I could do that the entire podcast. 62 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: We'll start with number. 63 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: One right all the way down that way through. 64 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: All right, So, Mickey, we have football players in football 65 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: field on it. It's Friday on a Friday that is 66 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: actually Tuesday on the calendar. 67 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: And I think that when Mike was asked about injuries, 68 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: he seemed optimistic about jay Ron curse, so that bodes 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 4: well for having him. 70 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 3: He would be number one. 71 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: And rink O'Donnell who who is? Who? What number of 72 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 4: rico O'Donnell? 73 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 5: Whatever? 74 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: We whatever? 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: We say a players day, we have to say the. 76 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 5: Number, just on this podcast. 77 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, and I don't think. 78 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: Rinco' donald's good to go. 79 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 4: Go Okay, Dak Prescott not on not on maternity leave. 80 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wondering we could bring that up. Yeah, 81 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: how delicate that situation? 82 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: He talked all about it. 83 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 6: Okay, babies do in March. 84 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: Oh that nursery had to be up then that's right, right, 85 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: they gotta have that thing going. 86 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: Hopefully he doesn't have to worry about it during the 87 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 4: football season, right. 88 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: So they're far enough along that they know the gender, 89 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: so they do be a girl a girl dad. 90 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: I had a girl first as well. 91 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 5: They're the best. 92 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: I had a girl every time, yeah, everything, you know, 93 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: I was. 94 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 5: Better than having a boy. 95 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 4: They're the best until they hit sixteen. 96 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: The boys are the worst all the time. 97 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 6: Why are you looking at me? 98 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 7: Just? 99 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: I just I wasn't. 100 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: I wasn't you were just you were just scanning the 101 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: scanning anybody else we're not. 102 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 5: My daughter was great the whole time. 103 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: Which one you're talking about. 104 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's the Sun's you know, because in the beginning 105 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: we are the worst. Man we are just dumb, sl ippy, dirty, 106 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: you know. But women, you know, my daughter, she was 107 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: at twelve years old, she was mature. 108 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 4: The emotions didn't bounce it off the wall. 109 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: I had the emotions, but you know, she was articular, 110 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: you know, right away at twelve years old. We put 111 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: her on the answer machine, you know we do that, Yeah, 112 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: and she sounded like everybody like, who's that grown woman? 113 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: That's my daughter. She was twelve years old at the time. 114 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: My son, I would not dip at twelve years old, 115 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: and what. 116 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 5: Are we doing? You know it's not gonna happen. 117 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: So yes, March is the new date. 118 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and he was pretty happy about it. 119 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: Excellent, So that was good. What else did Dak have 120 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: to say yesterday? Oh? 121 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 4: Well, you know he's got to here's what's happening here 122 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: everybody you know about what turned back around? Right now 123 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: he's on this high and he is right. He is 124 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 4: now has the second rank quarterback rating in the NFL. 125 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: It's at one oh seven. If you think back about 126 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 4: around maybe the San Francisco game, his quarterback rating was 127 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: like eighty seven. Yeah right, so slow start. 128 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: Well that was after a three yeah, come on. 129 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, three of his now six so half of them 130 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 4: in one game. Uh. And then now it's all about Pollard. 131 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 4: What's turned power? Are you healthy? 132 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 5: You know? 133 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: Dotta dot and you know it feels more comfortable. Well, 134 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: here's the bottom line. The offensive line finally is playing 135 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 4: well correct, right, It helps the quarterback, it helps the 136 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 4: running back. If it helps the quarterback, it helps the 137 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: wide receivers. And I think that's what everybody's missing. It's 138 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: the offensive line is finally playing to the level we 139 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 4: figured they would be playing to. 140 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: I don't think they're there yet and not quite. 141 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: Yes, you're right, there's another factor. Yes, Giants, Panthers, well, Commanders, but. 142 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: Even so now and here's the thing about that, because 143 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: in previous years we would really stink up well not 144 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: previous years, even go back to the Cardinals game. We 145 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: used to stink it up against bad teams at times, 146 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: and so far we've been consistent enough to just win 147 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: the way we're supposed to win. There are times last 148 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: year and even like we mentioned Cardinals, well we didn't 149 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: even do well against that particular team. So what we're doing, 150 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: we're doing what we're supposed to do. 151 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 5: To me, that shows maturity. 152 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: And I don't think it's necessarily the defenses of the Giants, 153 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: Panthers and Commanders. It's what they are able to do offensively. 154 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: Where the reason that dak through three interceptions against the 155 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: forty nine Ers was the Cowboys fell behind to the 156 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: forty nine Ers and cress and so you're playing ketchup 157 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: the entire game. You can when you're ahead or in 158 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: a close game, you can have a mix of a 159 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: run and pass and keep a defense off balance. 160 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: And when you're ahead, it accentuates your defensive talent because 161 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 4: now they've got to play ketchup right now, and now 162 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 4: they got to throw right And I think that's been 163 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 4: one of the keys along the way, is get out 164 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 4: to a quick lead and make them play ketchup. 165 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: Any team that cannot stop our passing game at this point, 166 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: they're going to be in trouble playing the Dallas Cowboys. 167 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: That's just the way they is. They can't stop the dbs, 168 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: can't stop as that started with Philly Giants, you know, 169 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: all that Philly being the best team that we played 170 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: in that stretch, their DB's were just as you know, 171 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: just as fragile as any other dvs that we that 172 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: we all went up against. And that's what gives us 173 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: the confidence is when we can go up and down 174 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: the field the way we have. 175 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: Been and these other teams aren't beating other teams this badly, 176 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 4: and they're playing some of the same teams too. 177 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: By the way. 178 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: And to accentuate the defense of you know, getting the lead. 179 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: So they've got six defensive returns for touchdowns, which ties 180 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: the record that they set in twenty twenty one, right, 181 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: but no other Cowboys team has had that many defensive 182 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: returns for touchdowns. They and they didn't have down win. Yeah, 183 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: but yeah, and you know, their first team in NFL 184 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 4: history to win each of their first five home games 185 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: by twenty points or more. So somebody else has beaten 186 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 4: these other teams too, right, So I think that's. 187 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: That's why we look so forward to, you know, the 188 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: stretch coming. 189 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 4: Up, well, this next game. Yeah, I mean Seattle's six 190 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 4: and five, is that right. 191 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: Now? 192 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: They've lost their arrows pointed down. 193 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: I know they've lost three of the right. 194 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: And it's getting worse for them with Dallas, San Francisco 195 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: and Philadelphia ahead on their schedule. 196 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: And we have to be careful with what's on our schedule, yeah, 197 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: because we're coming into the most Yeah, the scariest part. 198 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: You know. 199 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 4: And they tied their they tied their ship to Gino 200 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 4: Smith and his quarterback rating right now is eighty eight, 201 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: So twelve touchdowns, eighty interceptions, and he's only completing sixty 202 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: five percent of his passes. 203 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been getting some pressure on him as well. 204 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 4: Drew Locks coming in soon for Seattle. 205 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: As long as you got that offensive line in Seattle. 206 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: They're still going to have the same problems, and we're 207 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: going to expose that offensive line that's just that's that's 208 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: geno and that old line. We'll see. 209 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 3: Do you like that Monday night game last night? Oh? God? 210 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 6: I turned it off in the third quarter. 211 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 4: I think if the Bears weren't playing. And I wasn't 212 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 4: a big Bear fan growing. 213 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: Up, but I wore a Packer fan, right yeah, but 214 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: I watched like every Chicago. 215 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: Should have been at that time. The end of the game, 216 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: did you stay to the end? 217 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: I stayed to the end. 218 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: What did Joe Buck say at the end? 219 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: Something to the. 220 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: Effect and this one's finally over? And Troy said, thank god. 221 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: Somebody had a stat this morning that the Bears were 222 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 4: the first team to road team to not score a touchdown, 223 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 4: not throw for however a few yards they ended up 224 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 4: throwing for and turned the ball over as many times 225 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: that they did and still won. 226 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 5: What does that say? 227 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: I mean? 228 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 5: Really? What does that say? 229 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 2: I mean? 230 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 4: The quarterback playing that game was, oh my goodness, Dobbs, 231 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: this makes you feel even worse that you lost to 232 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 4: the guy? 233 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: Right, well, Forrest, give let's give Dobbs a break. He 234 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: was in Cleveland, but he beat boys. Then he goes 235 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: to he's been with Minnesota for less than. 236 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: A month against can do better. 237 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 5: That's what we would say. You beat us, but you 238 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 5: go up there and you can't do better. 239 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 4: Come on, four interceptions and they dropped two others. 240 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: By the way. Well, you know, it showed it. 241 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 4: And I told him it showed why He text me 242 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 4: and I said, I said, Minnesota is going to win 243 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 4: this ten to nine. And they were going to until 244 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: Justin feels completes like a thirty yard pass when a 245 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 4: few times they allow him to throw the ball downfield. 246 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: Their only receiver on the team was wide open in 247 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: the middle of the field. That the third does that happen? 248 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: DJ Moore? 249 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 4: Who else was he gonna throw to? They kept throwing 250 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 4: sideways the whole game, trying to get the ball out 251 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 4: of that was. 252 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: The element of surprise. He was thrown to the sideline, 253 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: and why would he throw the middle of the field. 254 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: Don't don't talk about it for winning the game, you know, 255 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: praise them for winning the game. 256 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 5: That was good stuff. 257 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: And Mickey, yeah, okay, you've always said that the more 258 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: you kick field goals, Yes, losing the game when they were. 259 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: They won with all field goals and even missed one yep, 260 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 4: and missed another opportunity to kick one when he fumbled 261 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 4: the ball away at about the twenty thirty yard line. 262 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: And here we are in week what eleven twelve? I 263 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: think twelve twelve. I'm still playing ball like that. That's 264 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: that's really What does that say about coach? 265 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 4: What was that saying about the quarterbacks in this league? Yeah, 266 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: but they don't want to practice. 267 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: They can't. 268 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: No, it's against the rules. 269 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think we're seeing it. I mean, do 270 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: you have the list of the scores this week? There 271 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: was a bunch of teams to teens. 272 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 6: Let's see twelve to ten last night, Steelers Bengals, Steelers 273 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 6: sixteen to ten. How about the Giants, Patriots, Titans seventeen, 274 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 6: Panthers ten quarterbacks? You know, Giants ten, Patriots seven quarterbacks? 275 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: Offensive line? Say that about my guy, tommyto. 276 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Tommy DeVito's on a two gay winnings. 277 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: I'm looking at scores from Sunday. 278 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 5: I told the story right there. That's all ten seven. 279 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 6: Those were my standout ones. Yeah, very low scoring. 280 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: The Rams got to thirty points. They beat the Cardinals 281 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: thirty seven to fourteen. The Chiefs got thirty one against 282 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: the Raiders seventeen and then the Bill's Eagles game. We 283 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: had two quality teams going up against each other in 284 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: thirty seven thirty four. 285 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: So what's Kingsbury doing right now? 286 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: He was at USC on the staff at with Lincoln 287 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: Riley at USC, who, by the way, is now number 288 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: one on the list of most likely to get fired coaches. 289 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: Crazy it is, how crazy it is, by the way, 290 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: on that topic, with a coach getting let go yesterday 291 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: in Carolina. 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He sitting on this gets 340 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 3: scooped on his own show. 341 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: She gets to go places I can. No. 342 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 6: We were sitting at the lunch Realm, just eating pretty 343 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 6: early today before the show, and he walked through with 344 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 6: the big and we're not. 345 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: Talking, and we're not talking. Shaquille O'Neill, even though he does. 346 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 6: Yes and reports are he is supposedly having lunch with 347 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 6: Jerry Jones. 348 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 4: Jerry said that he was having lunch with him after 349 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 4: he went and took his physical, and that he said, 350 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 4: let me see where I can find it. Basically, it 351 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 4: was a physical, and then the question is where he 352 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 4: is with his health, and then the next step would 353 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 4: be if we can work something out with him. But 354 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: he also pointed out that the Cowboys aren't the only 355 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 4: team interested in. 356 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: Shack Leonard. So if everything checks out, fine, do you 357 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: let him out of the building and let him go 358 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 3: to Philadelphia? 359 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: He was asked that, and he says, I can't make 360 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 4: decisions on what somebody else wants to do. So he's 361 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 4: hoping it's not a matter of money, because. 362 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 2: Indy owes him a. 363 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: Million dollars a week for the next six weeks. 364 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: Oh that must be nice. 365 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, Lee, that is really cool. 366 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 4: I think ever since we're running out of times in 367 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 4: our lives to be let go and get paid let go. 368 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 4: It seems to be catchy these days. 369 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 3: In this like these coaches getting let go and it's 370 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: so much first year of the contract, and in the 371 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 3: case of Carolina with Frank Wright yesterday, at least for 372 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: the head coach who has all that money owed to him. 373 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: It's it's not an altogether horrible day. 374 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 4: I don't think Jimbo Fisher's crying. But anyway, so obviously 375 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 4: the Eagles are interested. I think we talked about yesterday 376 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 4: because they not only lost in the Kobe Dean, but 377 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 4: Zach Cunningham got hurt in the game. But as I 378 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 4: started reading around Buffalo, the Steelers in Denver also seemed 379 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: to have some interest in being able to bring him aboard. Now, 380 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 4: some of those teams, yeah, they're kind of in the 381 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: same boat the Cowboys. They need help now, but you know, 382 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 4: if somebody offers him a long term deal. 383 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 3: I mean, and Buffalo is another team that lost their linebacker, 384 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: Matt Mullano. 385 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: That's right. 386 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you look at Philadelphia and Dallas, Buffalo. 387 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: And I don't know what the Steelers in Denver, you 388 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 4: know what they're looking at. 389 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: But anyway, Denver's looking at a five game winning streak 390 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, they're they're in the hunt, 391 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 3: so that they're looking to add. And when Pittsburgh looks 392 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: around the landscape in their own division, Cincinnati lost their 393 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 3: starting quarterback, Cleveland lost their starting quarterback, and things are 394 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh just just doing what they're doing. Is uh, they're 395 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: looking up, they're in the hunt. Yeah. 396 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 4: So Jerry said, the question is where he is in 397 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 4: his career, as where he is health wise, and he's 398 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 4: out now, the next thing is how do you get 399 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 4: something worked out? 400 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 8: Uh? 401 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 4: If all the other uh, all the other two things fit. 402 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: Uh. 403 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 5: He said, it. 404 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 4: Doesn't surprise them at all that the Eagles would be interested, 405 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 4: you know, and he said the thing probably doesn't have 406 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 4: a financial aspect to it, meaning he's getting paid. So 407 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 4: that's what he I think he was hoping for. So anyway, 408 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 4: till you don't have their lunch and then see what happens. 409 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: And the other thing is okay, even from Shaquille Leonard's standpoint, 410 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: how much is he looking at they maybe take care 411 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: of me for next year too. I mean, remember when 412 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 3: Odell came through here and at the end of the 413 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: season and everyone's wondering about his health, Well he was 414 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 3: it was more it was a more about next year 415 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 3: when Odell came through. 416 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: So yeah, So and then there's the factor of again 417 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 4: when we talked about last week, was you got to 418 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 4: find a spot on the roster for him because I 419 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 4: would imagine he's not settling for a practice squad signing 420 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: and then elevate as needed. Right, although I did see 421 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 4: a curious one. Uh Tyrus Sweet showed up on the 422 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 4: injury port with a concussion and Peyton Hendershot is probably 423 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 4: ready to get back. 424 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 3: Now, see is this his last week? Who's that on 425 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 3: Peyton Hendershot on his twenty one day window? I think 426 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 3: he's done too. He's done too, so this would be there, 427 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: so next week would be the week that they had 428 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 3: to make a decision on him. 429 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 5: What was his injury? 430 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 4: It was an ankle, right, I believe, I believe Sana. 431 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 4: Savannah's right. Yeah, it was an angle. 432 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 3: Right again, Savannah him again. 433 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 4: That's why she's on the shutter. 434 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 5: Straight. 435 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 4: But Tom, she carried her weight. 436 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 6: Oh it's coming, don't you worry? 437 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 5: All right? 438 00:23:54,640 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 3: I tease this more than I can ask from YouTube. Yeah, Frank, right, Yes, 439 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: it's let go yesterday. And this is a coach who 440 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: has had success at previous stops in his career. Okay, 441 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: veteran coach and first year at Carolina, things go haywire, 442 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 3: you know, right off the bat. I don't think expectations 443 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 3: were anywhere near what they are annually. Well, certainly they 444 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 3: aren't where they are annually for the Cowboys here, but 445 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: for a veteran coach coming into a new place. Look 446 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 3: at Mike McCarthy since he was let go by Green 447 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 3: Bay and how McCarthy has been able to to not 448 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: be set in his ways. To that year that he 449 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: was out of football, he you know, that was much 450 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: talked about. He would get together with the other guys 451 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: who had previous NFL experience, had you know, coaching experience 452 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 3: in the league, and they get together and they'd study 453 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 3: the game and spent that whole year studying the game. 454 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 3: And then him coming here and then just evolving with 455 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 3: the times, evolving himself, his evolution himself, as far as 456 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: his keeping up with the game, it really says a 457 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 3: lot about what he has done during his four years here. 458 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: Well, two twelve win seasons. 459 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 3: You know, you have working on a third. 460 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 4: Here working on a third and if you think back 461 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: to even the beginning of the year where he was 462 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 4: catching hell, oh, offense is old, doesn't know what he's doing, 463 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: he's calling plays, and then now it's like, oh, look 464 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 4: at Mike McCartney. 465 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: But it's like standing by your foundation as a coach, 466 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 3: your principles as a coach, but also evolving with the 467 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: changing landscape of the game. 468 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's tough to do. 469 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 4: Whole coaches, did you ask did you hear the question? 470 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 4: He got asked about Pete Carroll and himself, and you 471 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 4: know these older coaches are you know, still you know, 472 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 4: being you know successful, And he kind of put his 473 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 4: fist up in the air. He goes, yeah, let's hear 474 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 4: it for old coaches. 475 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: And by the way, he turned sixty this month, that's right, 476 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 3: just a couple of weeks ago. 477 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 4: And I think the pres no, but the question was 478 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 4: prefaced with Carol's seventy two and you just had a 479 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 4: significant birthday and he started laughing, right, and it's like, yeah, 480 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: let's hear it for old coaches. 481 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: That's a tough one too. Tom Landry had a problem 482 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 2: with it, and many of us were victims of that 483 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: as players, because it affects the entire organization. I could 484 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: even go back to Grambling. You know, Coach Robinson was 485 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: old when I got there, and he still coached many 486 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: more years after I left, and it's hard for them 487 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 2: to really take that step, you know, as far as 488 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: philosophy is concerned into the next you know, on to 489 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: the next level, you know, to the next you know generation, 490 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: so to speak, because you talk talk can buy generations 491 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: of coaches that are coming through, and you're still doing 492 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: the same thing over and over again. Tom never wanted 493 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: to get rid of the flex. Yeah, the flex was 494 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: our downfall. That's just the way it was. He never 495 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: wanted to get rid of it. And once it was 496 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: time to get rid of it, we didn't have the 497 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: talent to be able to handle whatever came in. So 498 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: it's hard for old coaches to do what McCarthy and 499 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 2: Carol are doing. 500 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: And I'll throw dan Quinn in there too. Yeah, you 501 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: used to look at what dan Quinn has done with 502 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: this defense and going back to his days with the Seahawks, 503 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: what they used to do there, and how in just 504 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 3: ten years time, how things have changed in the league 505 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 3: and being able to adapt. 506 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 5: To that back to Atlanta. 507 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 2: Even so, it's you know, like I said, kudos to 508 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: him and for both of those coaches for being able 509 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: to you know, make that move and still be relevant, 510 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: you know, instead of just living on your laws. And 511 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: that's I was with two coaches that ended up doing 512 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: that same thing and you know, they're the ones that 513 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: when they retire, you know, they got nothing else going on, 514 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: you know, bab Bryant, same thing. As soon as they retire, 515 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 2: next thing, you know, they get sick, next thing. 516 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: You know. The other thing. It's interesting, Glad you brought 517 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 3: up Pete Carroll. Just the comparison with Carol and McCarthy 518 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 3: as coaches. They are both from I would think from 519 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: a player's standpoint, they seem to both be very approachable. Yes, 520 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: you know where players. Their relationship that they have with 521 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 3: the players, that's that's huge to their success. 522 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: I think Cherry hopefully it keeps them more in tune 523 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: to the upcoming. 524 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: They think about how things have changed even since McCarthy 525 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: became a head coach, just in terms of social media 526 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: and the players. I mean, the social media really didn't 527 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: start taking off until two thousand and nine, twenty ten 528 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: something like that, and McCarthy was, you know, four years 529 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 3: as a head coach, and so he had to evolve 530 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: even as far as that goes. 531 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 4: And not only as a head coach, but he started 532 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: coaching in the league in ninety three, was it with Pittsburgh, 533 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: I mean Kansas City after he left University of Pittsburgh. 534 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, now dan Quinn's young, he's only fifty three. 535 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 4: He's not an old coach, but he's coached already. He's 536 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 4: already twenty first year in the NFL. 537 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, he's been But look at his success. Yeah, 538 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: as a defensive coordinator ten years ago with Seattle and 539 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: then you know, he takes Atlanta to a Super Bowl 540 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: and then the league changes over the course of this decade, 541 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: and he's ahead of the curve on it. 542 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 4: Well, if you look at a lot of the other 543 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 4: teams now they've kind of gone to his an extra 544 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 4: safety defense and one less linebacker. I see other teams 545 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: starting to do. 546 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: Let's finally we worry about them being old. You have 547 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: to be before your time, right, and then time has 548 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: to catch up with you, right. So when you get 549 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: really old and you pass those two stages, then. 550 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 5: That's correct. 551 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 3: And a big part of it, too, is the energy level. 552 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: And you see a lot of times I remember when 553 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: the Texas coaching staff when Mac Brown was there and 554 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: his assistant coaches, they got older, and so of course 555 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: it's different in college where you're recruiting, but and you 556 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: really got to have a high energy level to do that. Uh, 557 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: young coaches, But as guys get older that you really 558 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 3: know you're whether you still have a love for the 559 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: profession if you can keep your energy level. And Pete 560 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: Carroll is at the head of the class as far 561 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 3: as that's concerned. 562 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: I just don't like the coaches that that, you know, 563 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: they stick. I'm going to stick to what I do. Man, 564 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: you're bringing the league down, you know, because you're just 565 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: being a dinosaur. 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We're 622 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: going to figure this out. 623 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: That's It's like, is it okay if we just have 624 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 4: some fun? Because I heard severe criticism on talk radio 625 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 4: of Dolly Parton, what did you hear how she dressed? 626 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 4: And it was like it it should have brought a 627 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: smile the people's face that she put on a Dallas 628 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: Cowboy cheerleader uniform under her bodysuit, her glitzy bodysuit. And 629 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 4: it was like, why you're seventy seven years old and 630 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: you go out on stage and look like that. It 631 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 4: was disgusting And I'm going seriously, it brought a smile, 632 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 4: I think to a lot of people's faces that she 633 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 4: had the nerve to go out and do that right 634 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: and sing. And I just heard all this criticism and 635 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 4: it's like she wasn't trying to make a sexual statement 636 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 4: or anything. She just was having fun. And we got 637 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 4: to find something negative all the time about something, and 638 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 4: it's like, God, just enjoy life and stop the criticism. 639 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 4: This woman got out there and she did so much 640 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 4: to raise money for the Salvation Army, to the point 641 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 4: of donating a million dollars on her own money. Didn't 642 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 4: bring that up. What brought up the fact that she 643 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 4: put on a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader outfit. 644 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 6: And I'll be the first to say I worked with 645 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 6: several people that had helped set up the halftime show 646 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 6: for Dolly, and for a lot of those people that 647 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 6: met her, they had nothing but great things to say. 648 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 6: From security, from people that were golf carting her everywhere, 649 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 6: how just nice she was and professional and saying thank you, 650 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 6: and just how great of a person that she was 651 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 6: to be out there and you know, show up for 652 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 6: this halftime show. It was incredible. So that's disappointing to hear. 653 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 4: And there was more that she did than just go 654 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 4: out there and sing. She did all that stuff that 655 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 4: led up to it, right, She did a promo for television, 656 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 4: she did the thing sitting at the desk, and it 657 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 4: was I just thought it was It was kind of 658 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 4: a joyous moment, right, and it fit right in with 659 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 4: what happened on Thanksgiving here at at and T Stadium. 660 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 4: And you know, Jerry was asked about home field advantage 661 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 4: or whatever and he goes, well and he you know, 662 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 4: he gives the normal thing, Yeah, the fans are great 663 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 4: and whatever he said. But you also got a factor 664 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 4: in that in others it compared to other stadiums, we 665 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 4: get ten to fifteen more thousand people in our stadium, right, 666 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 4: and it makes more noise than in other places. And 667 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 4: he said, it's just a coup to have, you know, 668 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 4: the things that we have here at at and T Stadium, 669 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 4: and the fact that they brought more recognition the whole 670 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 4: day to the Salvation Army and about how you know 671 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 4: whatever they raised, uh and even Dolly's million dollars. He said, 672 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 4: that will feed two point five million dollars of Salvation 673 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 4: Army people. 674 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 5: And they didn't heard that. 675 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 2: We scored a few touchdowns and we weave a jumping 676 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: get into the kettle to the kettle. 677 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, people are watching at home and they're 678 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 4: not a hand. 679 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: I had people calling me and cracking up, right, and 680 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: they were just giddy with with them jumping in there 681 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 2: and they got the turkey legs and all of that. 682 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: Because I was I couldn't see a lot of it. 683 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: I was on the plane as soon as I landed, 684 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 2: So they were just telling me, laughing, telling me about 685 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 2: you know, how they were treating each other as they 686 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 2: got into the kettle. That was all part of the fun. 687 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 4: Well, he told a story about Al Harris that he 688 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 4: and Bland had this conversation and and he said something 689 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 4: to Bland about, well, if you get one, you got 690 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 4: to go in the kettle. And he and then he thought, well, 691 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 4: now wait a minute, I better and he said, so 692 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 4: he saw Mike and Jerry talking about it, and he 693 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 4: went up to him and said, well, you know, we 694 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 4: had this conversation with Bland and Jerry said, you know, 695 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 4: he asked, he is okay if he does that, and 696 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 4: he said. McCarthy turned to him and said, if he 697 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 4: gets an interception and he turns it for a touchdown 698 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 4: and dumps in the kettle, you better jump in there 699 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 4: with us. Now they get fine for that, right, I 700 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 4: haven't heard any fines. 701 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 2: I mean. 702 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 4: He did the first time, and then they donated the 703 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 4: money to the Salvation, and then the next time the 704 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 4: next time they. 705 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 2: Said it's okay, okay. 706 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 4: So from the difference between that or jumping in the set, right, 707 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 4: and we're raising money and attention, so don't you know 708 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 4: there's gonna be people they're going to go shopping this 709 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 4: weekend and they're gonna go, okay, here's a doll. 710 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 2: I saw the guys jumping in. Yeah, good stuff. That 711 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: is all right, Mickey. 712 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 3: I have a suggestion you need to quit listening to 713 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 3: those shows. 714 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 5: I know I was gonna So that is that is 715 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 5: the that is the minority. That's the minority. 716 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, the majority of its plenty of other options. Reddit, 717 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: you gave him too much credit already. 718 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 5: They got too much novity already in. 719 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 3: This podcast world we live in now, there's a whole 720 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 3: lot of other options. 721 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: Okay, you don't have. 722 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 3: To listen to that. 723 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,720 Speaker 2: And it's always the minority music that makes all the noise. 724 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: So no, you're good man. 725 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 3: Okay, now here's good oother Mickey Rant coming your way 726 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 3: in three two? 727 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 8: What was the other one? 728 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 2: We were going the other one? 729 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 3: Twenty five modern era players semi finalists for the Whole 730 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 3: Football Hall of Fame's Class of twenty twenty four announced 731 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 3: this morning, and Darren Woodson is yes among those twenty. 732 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 4: Five for how many times? 733 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 3: Eighth time as a semifinalist twenty fifteen, twenty seventeen, and 734 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 3: now six straight years from twenty nineteen through twenty twenty 735 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 3: four times he was a semi eight times as semi finalists. 736 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 2: Now, wow, is that ridiculous? 737 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 4: Almoch as ridiculous as your case. 738 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? Almost, I'm exhausted. 739 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 4: I don't know what else to say. I've written it 740 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 4: so many times. How he deserves this, and it's like 741 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 4: what I like. 742 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 2: I like to make comparisons and all I saw. I 743 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 2: went there for the black Cottage Hall of Fame game 744 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 2: a couple of times, and I saw a couple of 745 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 2: names up there and they we went to the pro 746 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 2: shop or whatever, the Hall of Fame shop in Canton, 747 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 2: and I just got more and more pissed off as 748 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 2: I looked at some of the names, and not just 749 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 2: for myself. 750 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 5: But for him. And this is his position. 751 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 2: This is Dearren with safety safety Learroy Butler, Yes Atwater, 752 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 2: Steve Atwater. 753 00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 4: There's another one in there. 754 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: Let's just once again give them all credit, right, because 755 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 2: they're all damn good play. 756 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 5: But if they're in, then where's the justice. 757 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 2: John Lynch is in John Lynch. That's another one, that 758 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 2: one that was the first one that pissed me off. 759 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 2: And I'm not Woody, I'm not Woody Woody. This is 760 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 2: his position here. Yeah, And you look at just those 761 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 2: three names right there and tell me how their accomplishments 762 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 2: are better than Darren Woodson's. I can't see it. You 763 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 2: can go numbers all you want. You can go number 764 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 2: of Super Bowl wins, you can go number of tackles 765 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 2: and that's what safeties are known for. Brian Dawkins. Brian 766 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 2: Dawkins is another one. The number of Super Bowl wins 767 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 2: that Darren Woodson has, and not just that, it's the 768 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 2: sacrifice that he made later on in his career. See, 769 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: these are the things they don't know about him. They 770 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 2: don't know about the sacrifice he made moving from safety 771 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 2: down to the slot. And when he's a he's really 772 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 2: a linebacker by nature, you know, but you got him 773 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 2: playing the Brandon Cook of the world and he's down 774 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 2: there doing the doing the job he was at one 775 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 2: of his job. 776 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 3: You know, these defenses that the league is running down. Yeah, 777 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 3: Darren Woodson, can you imagine years ago Taylor made for this. 778 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 4: Thirty years ago he was doing this and it's just 779 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 4: it's just so frustrating. And so I'm guessing his last 780 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 4: year would have been two thousand and four, three. 781 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 3: Something like that. 782 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 4: I think it was four because he there was three. 783 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 4: Three was the last he played, but he was here. 784 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 4: Oh four. Bill wanted him to stay and that's when 785 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 4: he had his back problem and then he ended up 786 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 4: retiring because he couldn't play. So next year, it's twenty 787 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 4: years and he's eligible now to be a senior candidate 788 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. 789 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,919 Speaker 2: I thought it was twenty five. I didn't know this well. 790 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 5: After while, it just goes a blur. It's just a 791 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 5: blur after a while. 792 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 4: But it's like now, he shouldn't have to wait that long, 793 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:09,760 Speaker 4: is my point. 794 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 2: And you know, I think when it comes to the process, 795 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 2: of course, I've always been against the media being the 796 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: first line of defense. I've always been against that. It 797 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: makes no sense to me. But when it's all said 798 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 2: and done, no matter how you do it, there's no 799 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: excuse for not having it being done another way. But 800 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 2: no matter how you do it, there's going to be 801 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 2: some type of discrimination or you know, loopholes, right. 802 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 5: That's gonna come with it. That's just the way it goes. 803 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 2: I don't care if the players vote first or not, 804 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: because then you're gonna have players getting together, you know, 805 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 2: for their guy, you know, because he played the same school, 806 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 2: same team, conference, all that kind of craft. 807 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 4: You know what they should do this time when they 808 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 4: make the argument for him, they should bring in Roy Williams. 809 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 2: Who's making the argument. That's my thing. 810 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 5: Who's in his corner. You're gonna have somebody in your corner. 811 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,439 Speaker 2: I know what I have in my corner. 812 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 4: They have people locally that are have the vote. 813 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 2: They make the steps they need to. 814 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 4: Bring in Roy Williams exhibit A. When Darren Woodson was 815 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 4: playing with Roy Williams, Roy Williams was a Pro Bowl safety. 816 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 4: When Darren Woodson retired, Roy Williams career kind of went 817 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 4: down hill. And he made the difference. 818 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 3: He was the heart and soul he was keeping away 819 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 3: from the biscuits. Roy Williams a biscuit away from. 820 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 4: And and it's like he was the heart and soul 821 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 4: of these defenses. His ability to be versatile and you 822 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 4: know what, and he played special teams till the last 823 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 4: time he played in this league because Joe Avazano would 824 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 4: not take him off special teams. It was one of 825 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 4: those Hey Joe, what do you think And it's like, 826 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 4: now I need and so you know, he did it. 827 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 4: If they needed a captain for the defense, it would 828 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 4: have been Woody. And if you just look, and even 829 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 4: he's had a TV career that people should have noticed 830 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 4: how well he knows the game, how well he analyzed 831 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 4: the game. 832 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think when they're just when it comes 833 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 2: to guys, older, then the media gets younger. Then there's 834 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 2: just no interest by them to do the research. 835 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 4: Right. 836 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 2: That has to be part of it, because if you 837 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 2: do the research instead of going by you know, like 838 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 2: I said, I have my guy and he's got his 839 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 2: people that are going to be voting for me, you know, regardless, 840 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 2: and so you know everybody's got their guys. 841 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 4: Sometimes you don't. 842 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 5: They're not going to research. They're just going by who 843 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 5: they asked. 844 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 4: Right, Or they look at numbers and say, well, look 845 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,439 Speaker 4: this he's only had this many interceptions. But you don't 846 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 4: understand that you got to use your eyes sometime to 847 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 4: tell you what's right. 848 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 5: And what is well. 849 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 2: There there's so much research behind the numbers and the 850 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 2: and the seasons that they just don't want to take 851 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 2: that time. To me, if you're going to be a 852 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame voter, the responsibility that comes with that, 853 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 2: do your freaking work, do the job, do your research. 854 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,439 Speaker 4: Don't just show up the Saturday before the Super Bowl 855 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 4: and say, well let me listen to this present right exactly. 856 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 3: So, there are three dbs in this semifinals class. Eric Allen, 857 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 3: Rodney Harrison, and Darren Woodson are the three DB's. So 858 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,240 Speaker 3: of the twenty five Sara finalist, Eric Allen. 859 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 2: Yeah he's good. Eagles, Yeah, he was good. He's got 860 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 2: about fifty plus, right, fifty plus picks at least, I think. 861 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to diminish guys that are already in, 862 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 4: like you said, the people, but if they're in, then 863 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 4: he should be in. Yeah, point blank. I wonder if 864 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 4: we can get them on the show here soon. 865 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 2: Man, I wouldn't if I wasn't my wedding man. He 866 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 2: needs to do like Harry Carson. Look, just take my 867 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 2: name off of it, don't even mention my name, and 868 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden everyone's offended. Oh man, Harry's 869 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 2: mad at us, and then they both have me in. 870 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 3: We'll see. Eric Allen is another one that all right. 871 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 3: He's been a semifinalist four times the last four years. 872 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 3: He retired in two thousand and one. 873 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 4: So I mean he first, so it must maybe it 874 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 4: is twenty five. 875 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 3: For years and years he didn't even get considered. So 876 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 3: all right, we'll have more time to talk about that, 877 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 3: and tomorrow we get you ready for Cowboys Seahawks. It 878 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 3: will be our fight song Friday Wednesday tomorrow here on 879 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 3: mix Shots. 880 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 4: And some keys to the game. 881 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 2: That's right. 882 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 5: Okay, see you tomorrow, Go Cowboys. 883 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 884 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.