Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks. DJ Rhett
Speaker 1: with you on a Monday as we look back at
Speaker 1: a eventful week six of games.
Speaker 2: Right, how you doing, Bob.
Speaker 3: Oh, fantastic, Excited to be back here with you, Rocket
Speaker 3: and rolling here through week six in the league. Was
Speaker 3: on Game Day Live with my buddy Mark Ross on Sunday,
Speaker 3: So we had some we had to those six games,
Speaker 3: and then we were coming off that Jaguars Bears game.
Speaker 2: Boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know we're gonna get to it here in
Speaker 3: the next couple of minutes, but Caleb's rolling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were going to have you know, obviously we're
Speaker 1: gonna have Bucky on, but you know, we put the
Speaker 1: we put the microphone in the end zone, and the
Speaker 1: fact that he is with the Jags, he couldn't he
Speaker 1: couldn't make it there in order to join us today.
Speaker 2: So he'll be back.
Speaker 1: He'll be back tomorrow for the flag goodness, curacious. I
Speaker 1: am looking forward to his take on Caleb. We'll get
Speaker 1: to that and in just a little bit here in
Speaker 1: the show, but let's start off with I think one
Speaker 1: of the bigger stories come out of yesterday, and that's uh,
Speaker 1: that's a Dallas Cowboys getting trounced. A big injury in
Speaker 1: this game, which which we'll discuss obviously could have implications.
Speaker 2: You hate to see that.
Speaker 1: But before we get to the good side of things
Speaker 1: with the Detroit Lions and you know how dominant they
Speaker 1: were in this ballgame and the injury to Adon Hudgson,
Speaker 1: let's start on the Cowboys side of things and to
Speaker 1: ts up, let's get Jerry Jones thoughts on how that
Speaker 1: went for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Generally speaking, I think my message is is, I know
Speaker 4: you don't need to hear me say this, but I'm
Speaker 4: well aware that we're in the proverbial right now.
Speaker 3: Jerry Good, what would it take you to value in
Speaker 3: making a head coaching change? Did season? I haven't you
Speaker 3: considered that. I'm not considering that. We're so you're clear,
Speaker 3: I'm not considering that, but you've done it.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be hypothetical in that matter.
Speaker 3: Do you think I'm an idiot?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 3: Okay? Well, I'm not hypothetical with you about one.
Speaker 4: I considering coach and change and a lot of the
Speaker 4: timing we're sitting here with I'm not at all.
Speaker 1: By the way, Jerry Jones eighty second birthday not a
Speaker 1: great birthday present there, uhret for the performance by the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. We'll get to the Lions and how dominant
Speaker 1: they were. We'll get to Avian Hutchinson. But just I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised he's not gonna he's not gonna air
Speaker 1: out that laundry there in terms of whether he would
Speaker 1: make a change, and I don't think he's inclined to
Speaker 1: make a change. I think they're three and three. He's gonna,
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna ride this thing out this year.
Speaker 1: Uh with coach McCarthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the thing, Like, I the weird thing is,
Speaker 3: like I don't necessarily think this team is overall like
Speaker 3: underperforming that that I mean, like I think that there
Speaker 3: are deficiencies that we've talked about in this team. The
Speaker 3: run game is certainly one of them, you know, targets
Speaker 3: outside of Ceedee Lambs, certainly one of the quarterbacks to
Speaker 3: play a little better. It'll be a bit uh with
Speaker 3: a little bit stronger discernment with some of those uh,
Speaker 3: some of those throws and decisions that he's making right there.
Speaker 3: I mean, just some inexplicable uh you know, kind of
Speaker 3: interceptions the last couple of weeks. But the thing that
Speaker 3: I come away with and I went on the defensive
Speaker 3: side of the ball and started to look at a
Speaker 3: few things. Here at DJ and the Lions at eight
Speaker 3: explosives on the ground. So you think, Kundt an explosive
Speaker 3: is ten plus you know, a run for ten plus
Speaker 3: yards like that, it's almost one hundred yards of explosives
Speaker 3: on the ground that can't happen. I mean like when
Speaker 3: they took Mazzie Smith, you know, out of Michigan. I
Speaker 3: remember thinking, okay, like this is this is a place
Speaker 3: for this to the run game, right That was for
Speaker 3: this reason. You remember when he was dominant, you have
Speaker 3: to go like to Michigan, like it has not shown
Speaker 3: up yet. He's getting moved off. It's like Kevin Zeitler
Speaker 3: was a moving van in this game at right guard
Speaker 3: for the Lions, and the d tackles were all boxed
Speaker 3: up and marked for next week somewhere. Because I mean,
Speaker 3: like whether it was Mazzie Smith or Lynval Joseph, I mean,
Speaker 3: Zeitler and Ragnow were just moving guys. All over the place.
Speaker 3: I mean they left the backside b gap like completely
Speaker 3: unaccounted for a couple of times on those first couple explosives,
Speaker 3: and I mean it was like it was stealing candy
Speaker 3: a couple of those times. There's not already upfront to me,
Speaker 3: and I think the linebackers on the second level, you
Speaker 3: know they're they're going a round Blox you got over
Speaker 3: shown back. There a couple other guys that de Mont
Speaker 3: Clark like. It's not a physical front seven in my
Speaker 3: opinion at this point.
Speaker 1: DJ, Yeah, those are issues along the front defensively. Offensively.
Speaker 1: I went back and watched all Dak stuff. There's four
Speaker 1: picks and there three of them are Daks. Obviously you
Speaker 1: get one late when he's out of the ballgame, but
Speaker 1: not just some mechanical stuff.
Speaker 2: Just not get into throws.
Speaker 1: Just balls are sailing, floating balls off his back foot.
Speaker 1: Those are things that I'm like, Okay, if that's their
Speaker 1: biggest issue, then that can correct that. I've seen him
Speaker 1: correct that, and you know they'll be okay. The problem
Speaker 1: is when you look at it, I think, let me,
Speaker 1: I pulled the number out. There were twenty one pressures
Speaker 1: allowed in this game.
Speaker 2: Twenty one.
Speaker 1: So if you're looking at two teams that have hopes
Speaker 1: in the NFC, you're looking at the Detroit Lions team
Speaker 1: that we can all agree better up front offensively, better
Speaker 1: up front defensively, the quarterbacks playing more sound football. He's
Speaker 1: more technically sound, he's throwing the ball more accurately, he's
Speaker 1: making better decisions. I mean, I don't know that it's
Speaker 1: very complicated when you look at the issues that plague
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, and I don't think it's very complicated
Speaker 1: to figure out why the Detroit Lions are good. They
Speaker 1: are a line of scrimmage team that is physical, and
Speaker 1: then they are creative on the offensive side of the
Speaker 1: ball as well. It's just that that was a forty
Speaker 1: seven to nine game, and that's how big the gap
Speaker 1: felt between these two teams. And I think really at
Speaker 1: those three important areas offensive line, defensive line, quarterback, I
Speaker 1: thought they were just far superior to the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: And that's why I said, like, I don't necessarily feel
Speaker 3: like this team is completely underperforming. They've certain they certainly
Speaker 3: could play better, but the gap is big between the
Speaker 3: Lions and the Cowboys right now. And I think that's yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, for once the score really accurately paints the
Speaker 3: picture that.
Speaker 1: One as you see big Skipper on the screen here
Speaker 1: at this point in time, just absolutely with them Ben
Speaker 1: Jonson having fun. Anyways, We'll see what happens with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys going forward. But that was that was not good.
Speaker 1: The big story though, Aiden Hutchinson getting hurt in this
Speaker 1: game feel terrible for him. Obviously a grewsome injury. Not
Speaker 1: something I care to watch multiple times. Of course, it
Speaker 1: came right when he you know, he gets another sack
Speaker 1: and he's coming off of really a start to the
Speaker 1: season that was Defensive Player of the Year type stuff
Speaker 1: like he was playing at that level, obviously a leader
Speaker 1: for their team and one of their best players. You
Speaker 1: hate seeing that with him going out, and you know,
Speaker 1: now we have to look and say, okay, you get
Speaker 1: to the trade deadline. I guess I'll pose you that question.
Speaker 2: Rhtt.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got other guys, They've got serviceable players
Speaker 1: they can throw in their nothing to that level.
Speaker 2: Are you going to start kicking some tires? But I
Speaker 2: think we have seven teams.
Speaker 1: I have to double check this, but I was when
Speaker 1: I was doing the Charge game yesterday I was looking
Speaker 1: this up. I think we have seven teams in the
Speaker 1: league with one win, Like, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: teams that you could make a case should be sellers
Speaker 1: at a normally quiet NFL trade deadline. It's not baseball,
Speaker 1: it's not basketball, usually not on that level. But I
Speaker 1: feel like this year there's a lot of teams that
Speaker 1: could be looking forward to next year and maybe you
Speaker 1: can pry a pass rusher from somebody.
Speaker 3: It's just so tough at that position, right because they're
Speaker 3: just they're so difficult to find. So I know, it's
Speaker 3: like we saw that the edge rusher trade this year
Speaker 3: sent Brian Burns up to New York from Carolina. I
Speaker 3: saw Bradley, Yeah, Montes sweat right going from the.
Speaker 2: Cast last year. We've seen these pass us We've seen
Speaker 2: it traded.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that's that's that's true. Like I mean, could
Speaker 3: Gdevian Clowney be available from Carolina? I mean, does that
Speaker 3: does that tickle your fancy if you're if you're Detroit.
Speaker 3: I mean they they were went out there with Isaac
Speaker 3: Uku and Trevor Nawawski, like who were undrafted guys from
Speaker 3: me to the last couple of years, and and push
Speaker 3: them out there on the edge man. It's uh, it's
Speaker 3: kind of an interesting one to think about there, because
Speaker 3: they they're down. Detroit's down Marcus Davenport too, right, so
Speaker 3: like they've they've really James Houston out in this game,
Speaker 3: so like they're running out like Josh Pascal is like
Speaker 3: their their most reliable edge guy right now. I mean,
Speaker 3: is are we are we gonna? Are we gonna talk
Speaker 3: to Son Reddick here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it's Son Reddick. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: He's got a new agent now, Drew Rosenhower stud He
Speaker 1: wants to get into the Jets. We'll see, you know,
Speaker 1: Jets are playing tonight, obviously not gonna be there in
Speaker 1: time for that thing. We'll see what that trans what
Speaker 1: transpires there over the next week. That's an option, I guess.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Drew got me. There's six teams
Speaker 1: with one with one win, so not seven, but still
Speaker 1: a big number.
Speaker 2: Six teams.
Speaker 1: And the other one is that they brought up is
Speaker 1: a great is a great name? Is that Cam Jordan
Speaker 1: who has ties Daron Glenn in the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 5: Obviously he is the most recognizable New Orleans Saints Oh
Speaker 5: like that is I I'm just saying, and we'll get
Speaker 5: to that game in a little bit, but that could
Speaker 5: be a team that now as a rookie quarterback who
Speaker 5: did some good things in Spencer Rattler, maybe they started
Speaker 5: looking towards the future. So anyway, it's just some ideas,
Speaker 5: some thoughts to kick around with the with the big
Speaker 5: there to Aiden Hutchinson again, speedy recovery to him. We
Speaker 5: praying that he he has a smooth, smooth recovery and
Speaker 5: gets back to being what he was, which is one
Speaker 5: of the best defensive players in football.
Speaker 2: All Right.
Speaker 1: One of the more into entertaining games of the week,
Speaker 1: we had the Commanders Jayde and Daniels going to take
Speaker 1: on the Ravens and Lamar Jackson. I you know, I
Speaker 1: was excited to watch Jayden Daniels in this one because
Speaker 1: even though the Ravens defense is nothing like it's been
Speaker 1: in the past, it's still an intimidating place to go
Speaker 1: in there and play. And I thought early in the
Speaker 1: game there were some jitters with him and I thought
Speaker 1: you could just see him settle down, and then I
Speaker 1: saw he took two huge shots still found a way
Speaker 1: to get completions. You see the fourth down touchdown here
Speaker 1: on the screen just a minute ago, I saw somebody
Speaker 1: who if I was a fan of that team, I
Speaker 1: would be very excited that that showed the calm and
Speaker 1: the poise that he had to be able to kind
Speaker 1: of calm things down, settle down after kind of a
Speaker 1: shaky first quarter. I thought he played excellent, and honestly,
Speaker 1: of all the stuff I watched and going through all
Speaker 1: this tape, what Cliff Kingsbury's doing scheme wise, creativity wise,
Speaker 1: is the most fun watching football right now. It's not
Speaker 1: only Jane Daniels playing lights out. Cliff Kingsbury with what
Speaker 1: he's doing with orbit motion and just all the eye
Speaker 1: candy that they're giving you and uh and then some
Speaker 1: of the leak stuff they're doing with their tight ends
Speaker 1: like it is. It is fun to watch how creative
Speaker 1: they are offensively. So I know they lost the game.
Speaker 1: I don't want to bury the lead. We'll give the
Speaker 1: Ravens their flowers here in a minute. But I did
Speaker 1: want to see jayde and Daniels how he responded in
Speaker 1: this type of environment, and I thought he was excellent.
Speaker 3: It must must feel pretty good for an offensive coordinator
Speaker 3: to be able to put that kind of mental workload
Speaker 3: on a rookie quarterback, right if you're if you're Cliff Kingsbury,
Speaker 3: I mean it's together there with jayde Daniels. I mean
Speaker 3: that is that is certainly fun to Well, I thought
Speaker 3: they missed their run game, and I mean obviously the
Speaker 3: you know, the numbers tell you that, but I thought
Speaker 3: they missed Brian Robinson in this game. But look, I
Speaker 3: think on the flip side, then you got to you
Speaker 3: gotta really tip your cap to what the Ravens did
Speaker 3: on defense in this one, especially from that run game perspective,
Speaker 3: where I thought Travis Jones, you know, was was really
Speaker 3: good and you know, justin Mattabike gets a lot of
Speaker 3: credit for what goes on in the interior that defensive line,
Speaker 3: and rightly so really good player. I feel like, you know,
Speaker 3: the Ravens found another good one third round pick out
Speaker 3: of Yukon right, Travis Jones, Yes, yeah, zero explosive runs
Speaker 3: that they allowed to the Washington Commanders this week. He's
Speaker 3: had a really nice year. I went back after watching
Speaker 3: you know this week, went back and watched a couple
Speaker 3: of his games earlier in the season and I mean
Speaker 3: he's been really good, especially against the run. Violent hands,
Speaker 3: he has constant pushback, like just from all over the place,
Speaker 3: first quartersack in this game, he's kind of got, you know,
Speaker 3: when you watch it, like he's kind of got like
Speaker 3: a little like Diet hump move, like hump move that
Speaker 3: we you know, Reggie White obviously made you know, very
Speaker 3: popular and was his signature. He's got kind of you know,
Speaker 3: light the light version of that, and it really does
Speaker 3: kind of shock the interior offensive lineman. Got a really
Speaker 3: good ball awareness too. For an interior d lineman. How
Speaker 3: many times do you see you know, a detackle just
Speaker 3: get you know, so kind of caught up with, you know,
Speaker 3: his responsibility, trying to be physical with the offensive lineman
Speaker 3: that the ball kind of sneaks out past them. That
Speaker 3: doesn't happen with Travis Jones. He's right there, stout at
Speaker 3: the point of attack. He's got good combo, a quickness
Speaker 3: and power with his hands, folent shedding that look that
Speaker 3: kind of forced Jaydon Daniels on a play where he
Speaker 3: was trying to get out of the pocket. Travis Jones
Speaker 3: forces him to like spin around and come right back
Speaker 3: into the waiting arms of Rokwan Smith. He is a
Speaker 3: good player right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he was in my top fifty, not mistaken there.
Speaker 2: He was a very.
Speaker 1: Talented player coming out of Yukon, big, big jumbo athlete.
Speaker 1: And look, you're you're darned if you do darned if
Speaker 1: you don't against the Ravens. You want to try, and
Speaker 1: you want to try and load up and stop Dereck Henry.
Speaker 1: Well that's probably still not going to work. And now
Speaker 1: you've depleted your resources in the back end where Lamar
Speaker 1: and Jay Flowers can take advantage of it, which they did.
Speaker 2: This is an offense.
Speaker 1: It's kind of fine and its groove a little bit,
Speaker 1: and it is uh, it's an offense with a lot
Speaker 1: of different ways to get you.
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews, by the way, still with us.
Speaker 1: I didn't know, you know, he's been just kind of
Speaker 1: invisible there and kind of wondering what his future would
Speaker 1: be with Isaiah likely there and he found his way
Speaker 1: into the end zone. But you've got Lamar as a threat,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's still rolling, and then when you want to
Speaker 1: dedicate resources, Zay Flowers is turned into a nightmare to
Speaker 1: deal with. It's in a copycat league and you're seeing
Speaker 1: the Ravens, you know, coaches and personnel. You know, he
Speaker 1: got him up in Seattle. We've got them with the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Like there's these ties to the Ravens that you're kind
Speaker 1: of spreading around the league right now. And we'll get
Speaker 1: to the Charger game later, but I'm seeing, okay, like
Speaker 1: where the.
Speaker 2: Chargers are in their development.
Speaker 1: They have you know, they've developed the offensive line, they've
Speaker 1: got the run game going, and now it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: you can look at it and say, man, if they
Speaker 1: could get a dynamic receiver, now you can really pay
Speaker 1: off all the attention you're going to get because of
Speaker 1: this run game. Zay Flowers is a perfect example that
Speaker 1: is the perfect player to complement what they're doing on
Speaker 1: the ground.
Speaker 2: Because he's going to have a bunch of space.
Speaker 1: You got a bunch of space with him, and that's
Speaker 1: just he is a nightmare cover, uh for everyone. So
Speaker 1: I applaud you know, Eric the Coast and the job
Speaker 1: they've done building out this roster. They more than any
Speaker 1: other team in the league. The Ravens know who they
Speaker 1: are and they know what they're looking for.
Speaker 3: Good way to put it, certainly, And man, I just
Speaker 3: there's so many different ways that they can attack. Now.
Speaker 3: Rashan Bateman even got going a little bit here too.
Speaker 3: So you think of the fact that they spent you know,
Speaker 3: first round picks on wide receivers in a couple of
Speaker 3: the last drafts. Is you're now starting to bear the
Speaker 3: fruit of that labor. So that's that's definitely a piece
Speaker 3: of their personal puzzle that's working.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to London. Buck again will be with
Speaker 1: us tomorrow. Time change issues. Couldn't have him with us
Speaker 1: today to break this game down that he was at.
Speaker 1: The Jags are a mess. We'll we'll get to them
Speaker 1: in a minute. But let's give Kleb last.
Speaker 3: Is he uh? Is he coming back and then going
Speaker 3: back and then coming back again.
Speaker 2: He's staying at school. He's got to coach the high
Speaker 2: school team.
Speaker 1: So he's got to come back and then turn around
Speaker 1: and go right back to London two weeks in a rowatch.
Speaker 1: So he's a soldier. He's not us around. I don't
Speaker 1: know how Buck, I'll be tired about it. Yeah, tip
Speaker 1: of the cap, but he'll be with us tomorrow. We'll
Speaker 1: get to the Jags in a minute. But Caleb was excellent.
Speaker 1: The game plan was excellent. I posted on Twitter that, look,
Speaker 1: this is why you don't make declarations about players after
Speaker 1: two games of their NFL career.
Speaker 2: You're seeing Caleb a couple of things.
Speaker 1: They're run the ball well, they're protecting him, and game
Speaker 1: plan wise, they're figuring out how to really feature him.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is what we've always said, right,
Speaker 1: you've got to you know, in the pocket on time
Speaker 1: has to be the ice cream, and the scrambles have
Speaker 1: to be the sprinkles. And that's what That's what he
Speaker 1: did in this game. He gave me just a few
Speaker 1: sprinkles of what he can do with his legs and
Speaker 1: making things happen. I got a couple of big first downs,
Speaker 1: had a sweet little dump off to comet on a
Speaker 1: broken play. But outside of that, he was excellent of
Speaker 1: just being able to, you know, look, get the ball
Speaker 1: out on time. They utilize the screen game. He's getting
Speaker 1: comfortable with Keenan Allen more time together, timing. What's the
Speaker 1: word of timing, right, it's time spending some more time
Speaker 1: with these receivers. All of a sudden, now you're able
Speaker 1: to you're able to connect on some of these back
Speaker 1: shoulder throws. In some of these timing throws. So look,
Speaker 1: we've said it consistently, Caleb Williams is getting better every
Speaker 1: single week, and don't give me the well they've played
Speaker 1: a terrible team. The signs of this game coming have
Speaker 1: been there, and he just keeps getting better.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up all that with the receivers too,
Speaker 3: because you kind of read right out of my notes
Speaker 3: on that. I went and watched Keenan Allen just because
Speaker 3: I've inadvertently left him on the bench after acquiring him
Speaker 3: in my one of my fantasy leaks. Yeah, and just
Speaker 3: watched him go off. So I was like, all right,
Speaker 3: let me go look at what I was missing here
Speaker 3: but not having him in the lineup. He actually caught
Speaker 3: six balls on six targets. One of them didn't count
Speaker 3: because of penalty, so he ends up with five catches
Speaker 3: on five targets forty one yards, with two of those
Speaker 3: catches going for scores. Almost all of it, in fact,
Speaker 3: all but one came on third downs or fourth down.
Speaker 3: And that kind of chemistry, that kind of understanding of
Speaker 3: where your guy's going to be, how he's going to
Speaker 3: get open again, is something that goes back to your
Speaker 3: root word of timing, which is time time spent on task.
Speaker 3: With those two that first cash the third down, final
Speaker 3: minute of the half, Keenan on his slant. The window
Speaker 3: is tight already and closing. It was a great throw,
Speaker 3: but a terrific top of the route by Keenan Allen.
Speaker 3: And again that's where he is one of the best
Speaker 3: in all of football, right getting off the release and
Speaker 3: then generating separation at the top. Another one on furnet
Speaker 3: third down, he had a free release, access to the
Speaker 3: sticks and I'm telling you, Caleb fits it in there
Speaker 3: within milliseconds of closing defenders. The next one is just
Speaker 3: an incredible throat. It's from I think it's his first touchdown.
Speaker 3: He comes from motion. It's basically like a stick nod
Speaker 3: type of concept from Keenan. But he's not, you know,
Speaker 3: faking going outside. He's faking like he's going to settle
Speaker 3: down and then sneaks into the back of the end zone.
Speaker 3: And then the coverage was actually pretty tight I think
Speaker 3: was Devin Lloyd the linebacker and the way that Caleb
Speaker 3: manipulates the coverage to hit him on the back shoulder
Speaker 3: there and again Keenan to go up and get it.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's really good and those two getting
Speaker 3: getting rolling, like now we just got to see more
Speaker 3: from Roma Dunsa and this thing's really gonna take.
Speaker 1: Me and Roma Dunsay had a couple of big grabs
Speaker 1: on on some third downs too, like a couple and
Speaker 1: working in the middle of the field, doing a lot
Speaker 1: of dirty work in the middle of the field. That's
Speaker 1: a fun It's fun, you know all I think I
Speaker 1: lament about the Bears. I wish they played all. I
Speaker 1: wish they had a home field where they played indoors.
Speaker 1: I wish we could see them outside of the elements.
Speaker 1: I know that's very not old school traditional, but because
Speaker 1: of the pieces they have, I am soft, but the
Speaker 1: screen game was swift. How that plays on a good field,
Speaker 1: not to go along with these big receivers and no
Speaker 1: win like I just anyways, that's that's the old quarterback
Speaker 1: in me saying that box yeah, gag side of things.
Speaker 1: I don't have anything to add. I guess the only
Speaker 1: thing I would add off of saying that, you know,
Speaker 1: Trevor hadn't been playing well. Trevor's been missing throws. There's
Speaker 1: no rhythm to what they're doing offensively, I don't. I
Speaker 1: think they've regressed on the offensive line, all the stuff
Speaker 1: that we've kind of been mentioning in the past offensively.
Speaker 1: I guess the only thing I would add to that
Speaker 1: is having really studied and paid attention to their defense
Speaker 1: this week. Unorganized, undisciplined penalties, blown coverages, uh, mistackles a.
Speaker 2: It's bad, man, It is bad. It is bad, bad,
Speaker 2: bad all the way around.
Speaker 3: It was on Andre Cisco at a quote about seeing
Speaker 3: some quit waiting.
Speaker 1: When you start hearing players talking about guys quitting, this is, dude,
Speaker 1: it's this.
Speaker 2: They've only played six games and this is this is.
Speaker 1: Where we are, and to the point where I don't know,
Speaker 1: everybody's going to be talking about what's going to go
Speaker 1: on with Doug Peterson, what's going to happen with Trent
Speaker 1: Balk The first thing I'm doing and these are this
Speaker 1: is one of those six teams with one win. I'm
Speaker 1: if I'm a contending team. I am looking up and
Speaker 1: down at that roster and saying, who can we cry
Speaker 1: out of there? You know, is there is there a
Speaker 1: way to get You're a team that needs a receiver
Speaker 1: and there are plenty of them.
Speaker 2: Is Christian Kirk going to be available, Like.
Speaker 1: Are we gonna start Thomas isn't Yeah, Ryan Thomas ain't
Speaker 1: going anywhere. But I mean, are you going to start
Speaker 1: trying to trying to lift some players off of this
Speaker 1: roster because this team's not going anywhere?
Speaker 3: And Ingram had a huge game. It's really the only
Speaker 3: positive I can point.
Speaker 2: But even and when he's not fumbling the ball, yeah.
Speaker 3: Right right, think Bigsby. We thought it was kind of coming.
Speaker 3: You know, it was a breakout in seven.
Speaker 1: Nice kick return, nice kick return in that game. All right,
Speaker 1: this is too depressing to talk about Jackson.
Speaker 2: Let's move on. Let's move on Houston, New England.
Speaker 1: Drake May in his debut was fun to watch it, Uh,
Speaker 1: going through that and taking some notes on that one,
Speaker 1: some of the let's give you the good stuff. The
Speaker 1: reason why it made sense to go to him is
Speaker 1: because of some of the issues that they have up
Speaker 1: front with Drake. You can move the pocket, he's sudden
Speaker 1: to he he escaped a bunch, made some things happen.
Speaker 1: Even when footspace got a little tight around him, he
Speaker 1: was able to make some throws. He's got plenty of arm.
Speaker 1: There was you know, there's a beautiful deep ball in
Speaker 1: this game. I mean, the production was good. Three touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: You'll take that for an offense that's really just hadn't
Speaker 1: been able to.
Speaker 3: Move the ball.
Speaker 1: He gave you a lot of excitement, a lot of energy.
Speaker 1: He has two picks. One of them's on a tip ball,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't put that was not great. The
Speaker 1: other one, but yeah, theah the one he first when
Speaker 1: he sailed, he's just on his back foot and just
Speaker 1: kind of sales it. The ball takes off on him.
Speaker 1: There's still like the mechanical stuff with him. He's his
Speaker 1: eyes move a lot faster than his feet at this
Speaker 1: point in time. It's just connecting those two. It's going
Speaker 1: to eliminate a lot of the issues that he has.
Speaker 1: But he's seeing everything really fast. It's just now you've
Speaker 1: got to get your feet connected to your eyes, and
Speaker 1: that's going to help some of the accuracy stuff that
Speaker 1: that can leave him at times. But for the first
Speaker 1: time out against an outstanding defense that we've already seen
Speaker 1: gobble up a rookie quarterback this year, I was very
Speaker 1: encouraged by what I saw from Drake may and and
Speaker 1: and truthfully gave a lifeless boring, unwatchable offense some much
Speaker 1: needed juice.
Speaker 3: One on the last line. I mean, that's what I
Speaker 3: came away with. There's some optimism now, Like it's not like,
Speaker 3: oh boy, here comes the offense. It's like, all right,
Speaker 3: let's you know, let's see, let's see what Drake's got here. Now.
Speaker 3: The thing I will say, like, did you know if
Speaker 3: Drake may knew much or was acquainted with Will Anderson
Speaker 3: at all before this game?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they got to know each other quite well.
Speaker 3: We got to know each other pretty good in this game.
Speaker 3: Three sacks. I mean Anderson just absolutely beat up both
Speaker 3: the tackles, but I mean each one of them got
Speaker 3: some a lot of people tackles too. Well, that's that
Speaker 3: that that's part of the issue. Get a near thirty
Speaker 3: percent win rate on his rushes, like one out of
Speaker 3: every three, you're affecting the offense. Like that's that's pretty
Speaker 3: dang good right there. He made quick work, as I said,
Speaker 3: of both those tackles and a number of rushes. I
Speaker 3: think on one of them, like the guy did the
Speaker 3: right tackle, did a pirouette like twice trying to find
Speaker 3: Will Anderson and just couldn't just couldn't find. It was
Speaker 3: like a blur. He makes plays though, That's the thing,
Speaker 3: Like he makes those splash plays on passing downs, but
Speaker 3: he makes so many plays on the backside of run
Speaker 3: plays away, like just coming down the line of scrimmage
Speaker 3: with that with like the effort and the intensity, it's
Speaker 3: just it's relentless. And I remember, you know, talking to
Speaker 3: folks there when they drafted them in just like the
Speaker 3: phrase that kept coming back with junkyard dog, you know,
Speaker 3: and that's like when you got that kind of dude
Speaker 3: that has that kind of talent. That's what you see
Speaker 3: with Max Crosby, That's what you see with Aiden Hutchinson,
Speaker 3: and that's why those guys are some of the best.
Speaker 3: And that's what Will Anderson's trending towards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's you know, honestly, you go back
Speaker 2: to that draft.
Speaker 1: I said at the time when they when they made
Speaker 1: those two selections back to back, you have two guys
Speaker 1: that could be the face of each side of the
Speaker 1: ball with C. J. Stroud and Will Anderson, and two
Speaker 1: guys who are are lauded and praised for their you know,
Speaker 1: their work ethic, their leadership kind of a lead by example,
Speaker 1: a way that they go about their business, and that
Speaker 1: absolutely has been the case with the Houston Texans, who again,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many teams you're taking over them
Speaker 1: if we're gonna draft contenders, super Bowl contenders, and you're
Speaker 1: going to open it up to the entire league, not
Speaker 1: going to wait long before the Houston Texans come off
Speaker 1: the board with how Competexico.
Speaker 3: But being back was huge, Like again you saw you know,
Speaker 3: we saw it in Week one, right, how much of
Speaker 3: an emphasis that was going to be for him this year?
Speaker 3: He goes for one hundred and fifty nine yard run,
Speaker 3: which was his career long by the way, and it
Speaker 3: comes in his one hundredth career game. They're getting the
Speaker 3: most out of him if he stays healthy. I just
Speaker 3: it's going to be. So it's like the Ravens really
Speaker 3: is as we're talking about trying to deal with, you know,
Speaker 3: the run in the past now, I mean like and
Speaker 3: then that was the other thing about the Digs acquisition
Speaker 3: that made so much sense to me, is like you
Speaker 3: lost Tank Dell for a big part of last season, right,
Speaker 3: so it was mostly Nico Collins trying to hold up,
Speaker 3: you know, as a one man show. They got some
Speaker 3: contributions from other guys, but now you have three top
Speaker 3: tier type of players at wide receivers. So if you
Speaker 3: lose one, like the Texans are without Nico Collins for
Speaker 3: the next four weeks, you really don't miss a beat
Speaker 3: within that offense with those other two guys, Dell and Diggs.
Speaker 3: So it is just a lot to like there.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you this.
Speaker 1: I want Drew to give me a number one to
Speaker 1: ten in my ear who's producing. Then you give me
Speaker 1: a number one to ten. And if you're listening and
Speaker 1: you're driving in the car, give me a one to
Speaker 1: ten on this. Because I'm I have a fledgling marketing company.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get up off the ground. So this
Speaker 1: Sunday we have from London. We've got Patriots, We've got Jags.
Speaker 1: That is six thirty West coast, nine to thirty East coast.
Speaker 1: So when you wake up, how about little Drake and
Speaker 1: eggs there on Sunday morning, one to ten? What do
Speaker 1: we got here? Drink taking eggs two shoe that's terrible.
Speaker 1: Come on, that's at least he's six.
Speaker 3: He's not your brand. Come on, that is your that's
Speaker 3: your brand. Though, and so like that is you know
Speaker 3: understanding that I give that like a seven and a
Speaker 3: half eight like it's thank you. That's that is your
Speaker 3: wheelhouse right there.
Speaker 1: That's right there, that's right there. I see the graphic
Speaker 1: the promo right now. Well, I'm sure the network will
Speaker 1: steal it. That's fine, free of charge. I'm just here
Speaker 1: to help. I'm just team player.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say, on Thursday night up all this week,
Speaker 3: when I'm on game day kickoff and they give me
Speaker 3: a promo to read for London, I'm going to change
Speaker 3: rise shine and watch football to let's go get some
Speaker 3: Drake and eggs.
Speaker 1: Drake and Eggs. Now, we're talking all right. If you
Speaker 1: think of anything better, let me know. But that's what
Speaker 1: I've got so far. That'll be nine to thirty Eastern.
Speaker 1: You can watch Drake May and the Patriots take on
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jabbar and we are going to look at
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Bucks and the New Orleans Saints. By
Speaker 1: the way, I have cruise to victory out of New
Speaker 1: Orleans before, I've taken a cruise out of New Orleans,
Speaker 1: so I feel like I'm prepared and qualified to touch
Speaker 1: on this subject here a game that featured Spencer Rattlers.
Speaker 1: Of course you have, you're a New Orleans guy. That
Speaker 1: featured Spencer Rattler's debut. I'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 1: The Bucks put up fifty one. Why don't we start
Speaker 1: there on the Tampa side of things? What they're doing offensively, well.
Speaker 3: I just think it's so fun to watch, you know,
Speaker 3: two receivers who everyone knows are going to be focal points, right,
Speaker 3: and while the Saints were able to take Mike Evans away,
Speaker 3: Chris Godwin is there to pick up the slack right.
Speaker 3: Eleven catches on thirteen targets, one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 3: yards and a pair of touchdowns. Still one of the
Speaker 3: best in the business at that and especially coming out
Speaker 3: of the slot too when they can get him in there.
Speaker 3: And then you know, there without Rashad White in this game,
Speaker 3: they're their lead running back. But do we have a
Speaker 3: report on Sean Tucker? Do we need to go back
Speaker 3: in Shawn Baby? Yeah? Second year player year?
Speaker 2: Is that twenty two?
Speaker 3: It would have been twenty three. I think this was
Speaker 3: year two two or twenty three, depending on depending on
Speaker 3: like experience. Right, that's always kind of funky, So Sean
Speaker 3: Tucker fourteen carries one hundred and thirty six yards, and
Speaker 3: then you know, Bucky Irving's still you know, and Tucker.
Speaker 3: Most of Tucker's came towards the end of the game.
Speaker 3: Bucky Irving is such a nice piece for this offense,
Speaker 3: like both in the air on the ground. I mean,
Speaker 3: he is he is an explosive quotient. Mike arguably their
Speaker 3: most explosive player on offense, which is a lot of
Speaker 3: fun to watch. And you know, like Baker just the
Speaker 3: three interceptions. You know, you you look at that and
Speaker 3: you're like, all right, that's that's a tough one. But
Speaker 3: they just like they're so mentally tough. I feel like
Speaker 3: this team is, and I think Baker's a big reason
Speaker 3: for that, like just always the competitor in him, the
Speaker 3: edge in him, is always looking for more. Uh. It's
Speaker 3: like they so they you know, they were up seventeen
Speaker 3: to nothing in this game. They end up going down
Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty four in the half and then
Speaker 3: just shut out the Saints in the second half, I
Speaker 3: mean shut them out to the to the tune of
Speaker 3: was it twenty seven to nothing in the second half?
Speaker 3: Like that is a mentally tough team to deal with,
Speaker 3: kind of the roller coasters in a you know, a
Speaker 3: game like this that's a division game and it's always
Speaker 3: heated between these two teams.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Sean tucker Well five h nine to two, so five
Speaker 1: nine and a quarter, two hundred and seven pounds. Uh,
Speaker 1: he had thirty eight catches. They used him some in
Speaker 1: the slot, choppy stepper. He's physical on the perimeter, he's
Speaker 1: a little bit tight. He struggled in pass proge, a
Speaker 1: little bit overpowered there.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: I thought he was physical. I didn't think he was
Speaker 1: super dynamic. He was one hundred and eighty fifth player.
Speaker 1: Did you say he was undrafted? Is that correct?
Speaker 3: I'd say that, but I was sure we will.
Speaker 1: Get confirmation on that before the show was over. But uh, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's uh, that was a good year, you know who.
Speaker 1: I had one spot ahead of him, there you go.
Speaker 1: So I'll take that as a w at one hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty five on my list. But Keith Mitchell was
Speaker 1: one spot, one spot ahead of him. It's always interesting
Speaker 1: when you look back on these lists and go back
Speaker 1: through these players and see some of the guys that
Speaker 1: have found good spots.
Speaker 3: And around them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, they kind of similar type guys there. Keith
Speaker 1: Mitchell get a little more juice undersize, but uh, nice
Speaker 1: to see him have a really nice game there for
Speaker 1: the Bucks.
Speaker 2: On the on the Spencer Rattler side of things.
Speaker 1: For the Saints, you mentioned it second half didn't go
Speaker 1: quite as well, but man, they moved the pocket a
Speaker 1: ton with him.
Speaker 2: Boots, rollouts to the right to the left.
Speaker 1: It seemed like a very simple game plan, which was
Speaker 1: when we're in the pocket, we're going to get the
Speaker 1: ball out quick. We're not going to ask you in
Speaker 1: your first start to hang in the pocket, read everything out.
Speaker 1: We're gonna for when we take some shots down the field,
Speaker 1: we're gonna move the pocket. We're gonna split the field
Speaker 1: in half. Let you operate that way, and then when
Speaker 1: we're inside the pocket, we're gonna get you some quick
Speaker 1: hitters and get you some layups. It was actually a
Speaker 1: pretty good plan to get him off to a good start.
Speaker 1: So I was impressed. The ball comes out, well, he's
Speaker 1: got a live arm. Just had a little bit underthrown
Speaker 1: deep ball on a pick. But you know, in terms
Speaker 1: of the you know, just the way the ball came
Speaker 1: out of his hand, the athleticism, moving around shoot first
Speaker 1: time out against a team and a defense that can
Speaker 1: give you a lot of different looks and and and
Speaker 1: some pressure looks as well. I thought Spencer Ratler held
Speaker 1: up held up quite well there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and on the defensive side for New Orleans,
Speaker 3: I feel like it's getting a little loud down in
Speaker 3: New Orleans with Dennis Allen after you know, starting out
Speaker 3: to and oer and now losing when it's.
Speaker 2: Your side of the ball.
Speaker 1: As a head coach, that's always tough, man, when you're
Speaker 1: battling your expertise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nobody to you know, there's nobody thrown to
Speaker 3: the bus here, you know, and you know when you
Speaker 3: look at this thing, like just just looking at the surface, right,
Speaker 3: which is what we consider the box score. Your five
Speaker 3: leading tacklers are defensive backs, like a Debo Lattimore, Howden,
Speaker 3: Abram Alante Taylor. Your five leading tacklers ten, ten, ten, seven,
Speaker 3: and six. Like you're not getting a lot of help
Speaker 3: up front, you know, when when that's happening. And now
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different reasons for that, but just
Speaker 3: that that was one thing that kind of stood out
Speaker 3: to me too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've been showing highlights for this entire discussion.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the same play twice. They're just throwing
Speaker 1: it all over the place against them. So good win
Speaker 1: for Tampa four and too they're rolling. Let's get to
Speaker 1: the next game here Arizona Green Bay. No show from
Speaker 1: the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a little saucy nug here, a
Speaker 1: saucy nug on. Can you tell me who has more
Speaker 1: touchdown passes at this point in time when you can
Speaker 1: consider all of last year and to where we are
Speaker 1: at this point in the season right now than Jordan
Speaker 1: Love who has more than him. That's why it's a
Speaker 1: saucy nug because it's nobody.
Speaker 2: That's why zero.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, he was so good as been back half
Speaker 3: of last year. And the fact that it was all
Speaker 3: through a car wash.
Speaker 2: Did you did you see.
Speaker 1: The throw that he made through the car wash in
Speaker 1: that game where there's like six different hands of defenders
Speaker 1: and the ball just just smoothly goes right through him.
Speaker 1: It was an incredible throw in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: But he's that that is a confident dude. Right now,
Speaker 1: He's had the talent. We knew that coming out of
Speaker 1: college in Utah State. Now I had a chance to
Speaker 1: learn develop and now you're seeing just the confidence that
Speaker 1: he's playing with is is pretty ridiculous.
Speaker 3: And having Christian Watson back as we see that touchdown
Speaker 3: grab there and a great throw from Jordan Love, I mean,
Speaker 3: they they've got they've got some targets. Now we talked
Speaker 3: about them. You know, Romeo Dobbs comes back and finds
Speaker 3: his way into the game plan once again. And then
Speaker 3: you throw in Jayden Reid, who we we both kind
Speaker 3: of felt like had assumed that wide receiver one role.
Speaker 3: That's that's pretty special. I want to take a quick
Speaker 3: second to give a tip of the cat to Zach
Speaker 3: tom Well. I think he's having a really good season
Speaker 3: at right tack Packers. He did fourth round pick out
Speaker 3: a weak four as we saw at the East West
Speaker 3: Shrine Bowl on an NFL network, and kind of got
Speaker 3: the sense there that the coaching staff, you know that's
Speaker 3: a you know, mix of player, mix of coaches around
Speaker 3: the league were really impressed with what he did in
Speaker 3: that game. He played I think he played some garden
Speaker 3: center in that game. And then in that week and
Speaker 3: now of course, is a mainstay at right tackle, where
Speaker 3: the majority of the Packers rushing yards were coming from
Speaker 3: in this game. In fact, five of their six explosive
Speaker 3: runs came off the right side, and the one that
Speaker 3: didn't was a reverse going back to the left side.
Speaker 3: So like they know when they need, when they want yards,
Speaker 3: that they're going to go off to the to the
Speaker 3: right side. With Zach tom like he is, he has
Speaker 3: been a guy the last couple of weeks that that
Speaker 3: really stands out to me is becoming one of the
Speaker 3: better right tackles in football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he's He's played really well for a little
Speaker 1: while now. So they found a gym there. On the
Speaker 1: Cardinals side of things, Marvin Harrison Junior gets a concussion
Speaker 1: early in this ballgame. Couldn't get anything really going offensively
Speaker 1: that they are kind of they've got a little bit
Speaker 1: of a hero or zero vibe to him on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. I was actually more disappointed
Speaker 1: just the defense didn't give you more because I thought
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball they've been, you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit more consistent at least from you know,
Speaker 1: an effort standpoint, and having a better feel for what
Speaker 1: you're going to get. But it's a it's a it's
Speaker 1: a team that's it's tough to predict what you're gonna
Speaker 1: see what you're gonna get from them on a weekly basis,
Speaker 1: And they just got their tails kicked by the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. I'll see them next week, so I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to really studying the Cardinals this week. They'll host
Speaker 1: the Chargers on Monday night, so I think we have
Speaker 1: two Monday nighters next week.
Speaker 2: They will be one of them.
Speaker 1: So I'll have some more thoughts on them later in
Speaker 1: the week because I really dig into the tape the
Speaker 1: game I was at Chargers. They go on the road,
Speaker 1: they beat the Denver Broncos tailor two halves. Chargers completely
Speaker 1: dominate the first half. They end up they're up twenty
Speaker 1: nothing at half. They end up, you know, only getting
Speaker 1: a field goal in the second half. And bow Knicks
Speaker 1: led a little bit of a charge there in the
Speaker 1: in the second half and got the Broncos within one
Speaker 1: score and had a chance with an on side kick
Speaker 1: to get the ball back and maybe try and send
Speaker 1: this thing to overtime. I love the competitiveness from bo Nix.
Speaker 1: I'll talk more about that in a second. I do,
Speaker 1: by the way, have another saucy nug for you if
Speaker 1: you want a bonus saucing nug. That's the first time
Speaker 1: the Chargers have won in Denver since twenty eighteen. It
Speaker 1: has been a house of horrors for them going up
Speaker 1: to Mile High. So a big win for them there.
Speaker 3: But it showed years for Denver. Wow.
Speaker 2: I know it didn't matter.
Speaker 3: They split.
Speaker 1: It feels like they split almost every year that I
Speaker 1: think that. The Broncos had one three in a row
Speaker 1: coming into this game yesterday, but it has been a
Speaker 1: pretty competitive series their home and home style. But Chargers,
Speaker 1: they got the run game going. They had Slater and
Speaker 1: alt back which makes all the difference for them offensively.
Speaker 2: JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins ran the ball well. Pat certain gets a concussion
Speaker 1: early in the game, so you take Certan out. That's
Speaker 1: a huge blow to the Denver Broncos. Camani Vi Deell
Speaker 1: he gets some work with Gus Edwards on ir he
Speaker 1: catches a wheel route for a touchdown. Good to see
Speaker 1: some of those young players. But a lot of injuries
Speaker 1: in the secondary and in that comeback in the second half.
Speaker 1: The Chargers are out there with two fifth round pick
Speaker 1: rookies tarheeb Still and cam Hart and they had a
Speaker 1: tough time with Courtland Sutton and company. And for how
Speaker 1: bad things looked for Bonix in the first half, helter
Speaker 1: skelter just not just it seemed like it was moving
Speaker 1: way too fast for him. He used his legs, created
Speaker 1: some things and made some nice throws. In the second half,
Speaker 1: especially having those corners down, they found something with Cortland Sutton.
Speaker 1: So I love the fight. I love the fight from Bonix.
Speaker 1: I love his athleticism, I love his competes. He's still
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a work in progress for them
Speaker 1: to be more consistent just working from the pocket right.
Speaker 3: You know, kind of been a you know, one of
Speaker 3: those guys that you always kind of pay attention to
Speaker 3: in LA is obviously Derwin James, But I think another
Speaker 3: guy who your eyes kind of go to even when
Speaker 3: Derwent's out there, but especially when he's not, is a
Speaker 3: lowie Gilman kind of flies under the radar a little bit, deech,
Speaker 3: I feel like, but you get them each and every week. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a good player comes up with a sack in this
Speaker 3: game and is the leading tackler. Just a guy that
Speaker 3: kind of seems to be in the right place quite
Speaker 3: a bit. What's your what's your take on Gilman's importance
Speaker 3: to that defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a nerve center.
Speaker 1: So I've always been an advocate of having kind of
Speaker 1: that communicator, someone who's a leader, someone who's who's versatile heat.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say Louie Gilman does any one thing at.
Speaker 1: An elite e lead level, but he can do everything
Speaker 1: at a at a solid level, and he's an excellent communicator.
Speaker 1: He's incredibly smart, so he can get everything, all the checks,
Speaker 1: all that stuff lined up and allows you, you know,
Speaker 1: with a lot of the three safety stuff that they do,
Speaker 1: you know, with Derwin to be able to move down
Speaker 1: and do some different things because of Louie Gilman can
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, communicate everything and make sure everything's
Speaker 1: covered up there on the back end.
Speaker 2: He is a very good player.
Speaker 1: Like if you talk about any sport, in glue guys
Speaker 1: is a is a popular term, and in personnel, he's
Speaker 1: one of those. He is absolutely a glue guy. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you brought up his name. But you know, as
Speaker 1: Chargers team, if you look at the schedule, they could
Speaker 1: go they could rip off four five in a row.
Speaker 1: Here They've got a very favorable schedule upcoming.
Speaker 3: Arizona, Saint Cleveland, Titans, Bengles before a primetime game against
Speaker 3: the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which you know, I think Jim will
Speaker 1: be motivated for that one. I don't know, maybe our
Speaker 1: bubble noah, Yeah, a little bit of tension on that one.
Speaker 1: But anyways, big win for the Chargers, and I did
Speaker 1: like the fight I saw from the Broncos there in
Speaker 1: the second half. Let's get through one more game in
Speaker 1: this rip here, and that's Pittsburgh taking out the Las
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders thirty two to thirteen. I think maybe more
Speaker 1: was made of Max Crosby, Chevin coach Caldwell on the
Speaker 1: sideline than anything that really transpired in this game. But
Speaker 1: you know, look, the Pittsburgh Steelers defense just kind of
Speaker 1: they just kind of locked up the Vegas squad led
Speaker 1: by eight and O'Connell.
Speaker 3: I you know, what do you do now at quarterback?
Speaker 3: You go back to Gardner, Minshew, because like this is
Speaker 3: the nightmare scenario, right, you have the early hook on
Speaker 3: on Gardner. Now you go the O'Connell and it looks worse.
Speaker 3: So now what do you do? Like, are you going
Speaker 3: to play this thing now throughout the rest of the
Speaker 3: season and kind of go back and forth. That's man,
Speaker 3: that's that's hard to deal with. And I don't know,
Speaker 3: you know, I can't imagine a scenario where Devonte Adams,
Speaker 3: you know, I know there was that talk that maybe
Speaker 3: that they're coming to some kind of you know, resolution
Speaker 3: here and he might end up staying with the race.
Speaker 3: I don't know how that happens now, based off seeing
Speaker 3: the product that you're thrown out there. Offensively, it's just
Speaker 3: it's a it's a tough look and when man, it
Speaker 3: just paints the picture like when you feel like you
Speaker 3: don't have when you don't have a top fifteen quarterback,
Speaker 3: like obviously there's only a couple of teams that have those,
Speaker 3: you know, that really up upper level, elite tier quarterback.
Speaker 3: But man, you don't have like a guy that's in
Speaker 3: the top half of the league. You're really fighting and
Speaker 3: you're struggling. And that's especially for a team that's got
Speaker 3: no run game like the Raiders. There's just nowhere to
Speaker 3: turn right now.
Speaker 1: Who is going to get approved as a minority owner
Speaker 1: for the Raiders, by the way, that's close to coming down.
Speaker 3: What's his name is part of that that ownership. Can't
Speaker 3: play in games, tom Brady just gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying tom Brady's not going to play in games,
Speaker 1: but if tom Brady's gonna own a little piece of
Speaker 1: the pie, right?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: A quarterback in college? Is there a quarterback in college
Speaker 1: that tom Brady's been mentoring? Is there anybody has anything?
Speaker 1: We've been reported about that guy up in Colorado that
Speaker 1: he's you know, has his cell phone number and they
Speaker 1: communicate all the time, and he's mentored him as of
Speaker 1: his relationship with Dion. Yeah, exactly, he's tight Colorado State baby.
Speaker 1: Uh No, I mean, I'm I'm looking at that. Why
Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of Shador over the last week.
Speaker 1: He's still on the ball, really really well, really talented.
Speaker 1: And every time you watch the broadcast, they mentioned about
Speaker 1: how how tom Brady's been his mentor and all this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But I'm like, well, need a quarterback.
Speaker 1: You've got obvious connection to him. I think that Dion
Speaker 1: would be happy to see him play all his games
Speaker 1: indoors there in Vegas, and and the kind of the
Speaker 1: mystique in the marquee that the Raiders bring. Marketing stuff too. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he kind of fits. I think he actually kind of
Speaker 1: liked that fit. We got plenty of time to get
Speaker 1: to the draft and mock drafts and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But that was just my thought today. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: could see hid in the all black. They're the silver
Speaker 1: and black with the Raiders, would make some sense. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll get to some more games in just a moment.
Speaker 1: Let's rip through the remaining games here. Cleveland Philly, this
Speaker 1: is a game. Look, Browns, they are in trouble. I
Speaker 1: mean they're one in five. There's Kevin Stefancy came out.
Speaker 1: He's not going to make a change of quarterback. This
Speaker 1: is what you got, Deshaun Watson. It's not pretty. It's
Speaker 1: ugly football. It's hard to watch. It is what it is.
Speaker 1: The story of this one, though, is on the other
Speaker 1: side with Philadelphia getting to win. They get to three
Speaker 1: and two, but it doesn't feel like a positive three
Speaker 1: and two, and it's just you know, look it. The
Speaker 1: story that's going to dominate is what uh coach Siriani
Speaker 1: you know, did when he's interacting with the fans. So
Speaker 1: before we give our thoughts on that, let's hear what
Speaker 1: coach Sirianni had to say after the game.
Speaker 4: I was having fun. I was having fun, and they
Speaker 4: kind of got some feedback from the guys. Is the
Speaker 4: sense of like, we need we need you and back Nick,
Speaker 4: we need we need your we need your energy, we
Speaker 4: need your your your focus, we need your like I've
Speaker 4: gotten that from a couple of players, and you know
Speaker 4: when I'm when I'm operating and having fun, I think
Speaker 4: that that that uh breeds to the rest of the
Speaker 4: football team.
Speaker 1: So, uh, there's the interaction you see big dom there
Speaker 1: as as coach Siriani is talking to the fans, uh giving.
Speaker 2: It to him. I I don't have his big issue
Speaker 2: with this, as everybody else does.
Speaker 1: I know it's been kind of a popular topic to
Speaker 1: just be like, hey, you know you got to act
Speaker 1: to act like the head coach, and that's beneath you
Speaker 1: and it's immature and it's silly.
Speaker 2: But I also think if we're.
Speaker 1: Going to talk about out what we do every year
Speaker 1: when the coaching hiring cycle starts, right, we always say, hey,
Speaker 1: be yourself, be authentic. That's the most important thing. Don't
Speaker 1: try and be somebody else. We've seen everybody that's coach
Speaker 1: for Belichick try and be Belichick doesn't work. You've got
Speaker 1: to be who you are. I can say this honestly,
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni's one of one. There's nobody else like him
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and some people don't care for it,
Speaker 1: but the guy has had pretty good results if you
Speaker 1: just want to look at the win loss record of
Speaker 1: what he's done.
Speaker 3: By the way, they're a little easier to watch when
Speaker 3: Aj Brown and Devonte smith A're playing like That's also
Speaker 3: that that was a much better product than what we've
Speaker 3: seen the last couple of weeks. So do you care?
Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems like that was the big
Speaker 1: storyline coming out of that.
Speaker 2: Do you really care?
Speaker 3: You know what? I find it entertaining so have at
Speaker 3: a coach like I'm don't bother me at all, Like
Speaker 3: let's let's let's go have some fun. Yeah, I mean, like,
Speaker 3: be you right if that's if that's what it is,
Speaker 3: but hey, be ready for it right when it goes
Speaker 3: the other way, right, and when.
Speaker 1: They're talking about that's what you get when you do that,
Speaker 1: that's what you yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really care. I don't really care. Just
Speaker 2: go win games.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to do after that, knock yourself out,
Speaker 1: but just go win football games. I don't want to
Speaker 1: pile on Cleveland. We've done it every week. They're one
Speaker 1: and five. Let's move to the next game. By the way, Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 3: Zadarias Smith, would he be on the edge rusher, trading
Speaker 3: block here?
Speaker 2: You can throw him on the list for Detroit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been in that division a different times.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be Miles Garrett ain't going anywhere. You're
Speaker 1: not getting him, so we might as well look at
Speaker 1: some of those other names. Cincinnati and the Giants. Not
Speaker 1: a pretty performance from the Bengals, but they did what
Speaker 1: they had to do. Seventeen to seven. Defense looked good
Speaker 1: with what they were able to do. The first time
Speaker 1: the able a team in here ten points since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: That one kind of surprised me. Burn Chase Brown.
Speaker 2: They've got a running back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I took away exactly. And you know,
Speaker 3: especially after the efforts that you've seen on the defensive
Speaker 3: side from Cincinnati the last couple of weeks, like that,
Speaker 3: that's encouraging. Now, look, it's this is a again, a
Speaker 3: elite neighbors less New York Times. Did you get a replacement,
Speaker 3: by the way. For the rookie draft, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think I had McConkie. I don't
Speaker 1: think it scored me any points. It could have been
Speaker 1: a rough one for me. We'll find out tomorrow, but
Speaker 1: I don't think I had a good tomorrow on the
Speaker 1: rookie draft.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so like, Look, I think that that is
Speaker 3: going to limit the New York Giants. Obviously they found
Speaker 3: a way to get it done last week without Neighbors
Speaker 3: against Seattle, but you know, they had those those touchdowns
Speaker 3: come from the blackfield goal and all that. So I
Speaker 3: didn't have that this time and felt like they were
Speaker 3: limited and so they need they need Neighbors back. Hopefully
Speaker 3: he comes back here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'd like to see him back there. He's
Speaker 1: just been fun to watch. Let's get to Atlanta, Carolina.
Speaker 1: This game was close for a little bit and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, you had the turnovers
Speaker 1: and the Falcons kind of opened it up late. They're
Speaker 1: four and too kind of I think right where we
Speaker 1: thought they would be looking at the landscape of the
Speaker 1: division right there in the mix.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you think they'd be rushing for two hundred yards.
Speaker 3: Though with with.
Speaker 1: With Kirk, that sounds surprising when you look at the backs.
Speaker 1: They've got us solid offensive line, and when you actually
Speaker 1: have a credible quarterback, you can scare some safeties out
Speaker 1: of there. And also, it's not a good ball club
Speaker 1: their playing.
Speaker 3: No, no, it's not not a lot of blue players
Speaker 3: on that team that was wearing blue.
Speaker 2: And so I heard a lot from the Panthers after
Speaker 2: they got their one win.
Speaker 1: By the way, those fans were all over me for
Speaker 1: saying I thought they'd have the first pick in the draft.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're still on track at this point. I think
Speaker 3: it was good to look on the positive sicking. Yeah,
Speaker 3: things are tracking. Jatavian Sanders, you know, five catches forty
Speaker 3: nine yards in this game. Deontae Johnson showed up in
Speaker 3: this game. You know, Xavier Legette got a touchdown. If look,
Speaker 3: if you're looking for things to get excited about, you know,
Speaker 3: there's some young guys there that you're hoping to account
Speaker 3: on moving forward. But they're going to obviously have to
Speaker 3: figure out the quarterback thing. And I would imagine if
Speaker 3: things continued down this track that we're probably going to
Speaker 3: see Bryce Young again here pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was rough, by the way, the clip that
Speaker 1: was circulating around of of Mark Sanchez. You know, you
Speaker 1: need a prefer reception. He's talking about having a professional
Speaker 1: to be able to follow and emulate. And then we
Speaker 1: should have been a pick six if they don't take
Speaker 1: a knee and away the end zone. But anyways, not
Speaker 1: fortuitous there, Uh, Indie Tennessee, Uh you get it looks
Speaker 1: like the sound of it, we're gonna get We're gonna
Speaker 1: get Anthony Richardson back. I don't know if if the
Speaker 1: Colts are excited about that or not. With the way
Speaker 1: Flacco has been rolling.
Speaker 3: What would the Raiders give the Colts for Joe Flacco
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 2: I don't think the Raiders necessarily want to Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2: They don't know.
Speaker 1: They are motivated to win a lot of games this
Speaker 1: year rt. They need a quarterback of the future much
Speaker 1: better he's playing on Saturday.
Speaker 3: Situation than the Raiders. That's considerably too.
Speaker 2: But is your goal to win seven games or is
Speaker 2: your is your.
Speaker 1: Goal to you know, finally solve that issue quarterback deal?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I get it. Yeah, So look, I think it's uh,
Speaker 3: it's watching Joe Flacco play. It's fun what I think
Speaker 3: it's going to be. You know, I can't wait to
Speaker 3: see what happens, you know, when Anthony Richardson comes back.
Speaker 3: But like, do we still get Josh downs, you know
Speaker 3: in this game plan the way that he has been
Speaker 3: same with Michael Pittman. You know, they did all this
Speaker 3: without Jonathan Taylor in this game. So the Bolts are
Speaker 3: in pretty good shape here. And I think, you know,
Speaker 3: and I know that Brian Callahan on the flip side
Speaker 3: said that he's still sticking with Will Levis. They need
Speaker 3: to show some signs of progress on that side.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of Will Levis, one of his targets not
Speaker 1: happy we can roll the audio. Calvin Redley eight targets,
Speaker 1: no receptions, his thoughts, I had its targets.
Speaker 2: In the part of the game, fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: A lot of them, all right, man, So need some
Speaker 3: in the beginning too, and they're like crazy for me.
Speaker 3: So I'm just know it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I gotta get the ball early in the
Speaker 4: game so I could be in the game and here
Speaker 4: with the team so I can play well.
Speaker 3: Also, I don't know, we just don't know. We want
Speaker 3: to win the games, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Thoughts, thoughts, on that one.
Speaker 3: It's like I, I mean, I understand where he's coming from.
Speaker 3: It's tough to verbalize that right in in in the public.
Speaker 3: I guess it's tough for anyone to take that. You know,
Speaker 3: it's easy to take that the wrong way, right, or
Speaker 3: maybe the way he's intended. But it's not a good
Speaker 3: It's not the look you want post game after your
Speaker 3: fourth loss of the team. I think is more the
Speaker 3: moral of the story. That's probably an internal conversation, but
Speaker 3: I understand the frustrations mounting eight times your targeted zero
Speaker 3: catches and the majority of those targets come. You know,
Speaker 3: at the end of the game you need you need
Speaker 3: to get He's a guy's getting a rhythm. I understand that.
Speaker 2: Part of it.
Speaker 1: You know, I've I've uh, you've heard me say this
Speaker 1: before with quarterbacks. I've offered and I've said this when
Speaker 1: I've met with college quarterbacks coming into the process. I've
Speaker 1: given them the the answers to the test on how
Speaker 1: to handle the media, which is, hey, when you know,
Speaker 1: when things go wrong, it's me. When they go right,
Speaker 1: it's we like we always share credit and I'll own blame.
Speaker 1: That's just quarterback press conference one oh one. Here's I've
Speaker 1: never done it with whiteouts, so here would be my
Speaker 1: free of charge advice to whiteouts to basically get the
Speaker 1: same message across that you just heard from Calvin Ridley,
Speaker 1: but just with this little twist, all you have to
Speaker 1: do is say, hey, man, it's look, we lost a ballgame.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to win more than I do, and I
Speaker 1: just I want to be able to help us win.
Speaker 1: You know, I just would love to be more involved
Speaker 1: so I can help us win the game. I think
Speaker 1: I can help us win. I'd love to get more opportunities,
Speaker 1: you know, to help my offense and to help us
Speaker 1: win ball games. Like you're saying the same thing, but
Speaker 1: you're just saying the motivation behind it is more like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I want this for the offense, I want this for
Speaker 1: the team, but you're still saying the same thing. Throw
Speaker 1: me the ball for crying out loud, give me some
Speaker 1: targets early in the ballgame.
Speaker 3: See see. But then on move the sticks on Monday,
Speaker 3: you're going to have you know, somebody you know listening
Speaker 3: to that and saying, like, you know what I'm gonna
Speaker 3: read between the lines on what that selfish wide out
Speaker 3: Jeremiah is saying.
Speaker 2: It's just such a nicer way.
Speaker 3: It's just an easier way to say it is a
Speaker 3: nicer way.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, hey, look, we got a young quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I mean, I think I can help him. I
Speaker 1: really think I can help him. You know, I believe
Speaker 1: in him. But man, they got to give me some
Speaker 1: chances to help him, you know. And then it's always
Speaker 1: like you're not blaming the quarterback, you know. Yeah, workshop,
Speaker 1: we workshopped it, right, Yeah we did.
Speaker 3: We got there.
Speaker 1: You go Monday night. We've got a gain Media Services. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's our that's our little side business. My marketing company
Speaker 1: of apparently is fledgling. According to Drew is uh the
Speaker 1: bills Jets I have. I have maintained this is the
Speaker 1: best it's the best shoes to step into for an
Speaker 1: NFL head coach in NFL history. Literally, your first game,
Speaker 1: if you win, you're in first place. You're in first place.
Speaker 1: Your first game as a head coach. You will be
Speaker 1: lauded as taking them from basically the outhouse to the
Speaker 1: penthouse like that. And it's one game at home against
Speaker 1: a team who would buy reputation is up here. But
Speaker 1: by actuality, how they are is really a little bit lower.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get credit for beating the historical Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills of the last five years versus what the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills have actually been this year.
Speaker 2: The stadium is going to be raucous.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a Obrick is in a great situation
Speaker 1: to come in there and uh and get himself a
Speaker 1: win and really kind of take ownership of the entire franchise, the.
Speaker 3: Emotional lift that they're gonna get. You know, they've been
Speaker 3: playing in front of the home crowd. I mean like yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember my dad was with the Saints,
Speaker 3: you know, Jim Mora and the Saints go and Mora's
Speaker 3: last year zero and five to start, he resigns. Rick
Speaker 3: Venturi comes in to be the interim head coach and
Speaker 3: you're like, well, and he's talking about we burn the ships.
Speaker 3: You know, we gotta get you. It's it's time in it.
Speaker 3: And you're like, coach, We're shoot, you know, pass by
Speaker 3: pretty quick here, you know what I mean? But yeah,
Speaker 3: you gotta fight for first place in the AFC East.
Speaker 3: Not exactly the most juggerna GA visions one game and
Speaker 3: you're sitting pretty at the top now you got to
Speaker 3: stay there. You gotta find a way to stay there
Speaker 3: and find some consistency. Does the play color thing matter
Speaker 3: to you that much?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know that.
Speaker 2: I know one thing.
Speaker 1: TD todd down is going to have that play into
Speaker 1: Aaron's headset so fast he's now even to know what
Speaker 1: to do with it. Man, that barely when they turn
Speaker 1: on the system, he's ever going to have half the
Speaker 1: play call out of his mouth so he doesn't have
Speaker 1: to worry about Aeron on National TV looking over the
Speaker 1: side this gesture. So I'm anxious to see it. I'm
Speaker 1: akexious to see what it looks like. Again, it's all
Speaker 1: right there for the Jets and Buffalo. Buffalo's beat the
Speaker 1: bad teams lost to the good teams. So this Jets team,
Speaker 1: I would say, is probably somewhere in the middle right now.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what Buffalo looks like. But I don't
Speaker 1: think they're you know, they have it all rolling like
Speaker 1: we had seen in the past with them, So big
Speaker 1: opportunity for the Jets tonight. Anything else you want to
Speaker 1: before we jump out of here.
Speaker 2: No Hoosiers, Allie, so sick of hearing about the Hoosiers.
Speaker 1: The padres are out. I hate baseball. Enjoy Monday night football. Everybody,
Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Right here, I'm moving stick