1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia for this Friday, January seven 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong, Thursday January six in New York and 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: coming up this hour. US GDP growth slows mildly as 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: the markets look ahead to the feds next policy decision. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: Intel gives a dire forecast for the current quarter, with 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: sinking demand for PCs and China malls, an export band 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: that could help the nation maintain its dominance in solar tech. 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: The fight over the death ceiling is intensifying. The US 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: moves to protect Hong Kong citizens from being forced to 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: go back and callstaband TikTok in the US are intensifying. 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm too these Pelegrity with Global News. The women's final 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: is set at the Australian Open. On Dan Schwartzmen, I'll 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: have that story more coming up in Bloomberg Sports. That's 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Asia on Bloomberg eleven 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: three on New York, Bloomberg Washington, d C, Bloomberg one 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: six one, Boston, Bloomberg nine sixties, San Francisco, Sirius x 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: M one nineteen and around the world on Bloomberg Radio 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: dot Com and via the Bloomberg Business app. Good morning, 19 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm do Prisoner and I'm Brian Curtis. Here are the 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: stories we're following today. Let's take a closer look here 21 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: at the slowdown in the US economy. The US economy 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: beating expectations in the last quarter of two and he 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: posted the kind of mild slowdown that the FED actually 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: wants to see as it attempts to tame inflation. However, 25 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: economists see some risks ahead in three. As Doug alluded to, 26 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: Lindsay A Piegs is one, She's chief economist is stephile 27 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: we are teetering towards a recession. And now, of course 28 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter number does look pretty good, particularly against 29 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the backdrop of an even stronger rise in the third quarter, 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: But when we look at what's happening with the consumer, 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: which is the backbone of the US economy, we are 32 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: seeing a clear loss of momentum. Now, all eyes are 33 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: on a key FED decision that's coming up on February one. 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: The FED is expected by traders to high rates by 35 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: another twenty five basis points that officials are signaling that 36 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: rates will stay high through the rest of the year 37 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: until until inflation is beaten. We're still in the flow 38 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: of quarterly earnings. They are thick and heavy, and today 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: after the bell it was Intel delivering a dire forecast 40 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: for the current quarter. We have more from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellet. 41 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: Intel was hurt by sinking demand from PC customers and 42 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 1: tough competition in the lucrative market for server hardware. The 43 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: chip maker said first quarter sales will be ten and 44 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: a half to eleven and a half billion dollars. That 45 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: compares with an average Hannleist estimate of fourteen billion dollars. 46 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: The outlook reflects the myriad challenges facing Intel, which was 47 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: attempting to stage a comeback even before the market for 48 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: PC chips, it's main source of revenue, fell into a slump. 49 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: In New York. Arlie Pellett Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, Charlie, thanks 50 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: very much. An Intel down nine point seven percent again 51 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: in after hours, Well, we're hearing that China is considering 52 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: an export ban that would help the nation maintain its 53 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: substantial dominance in solar manufacturing. The ban is being considered 54 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: for technology used to make solar wafers. Wafers are ultra 55 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: thin silicon squares that are pieced together into solar panels, 56 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: and China accounts for nine percent of global output. We're 57 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: told to move is still in the public consultation phase 58 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: now and no decisions have yet been made. Well, companies 59 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: linked to the Indian billionaire Guatamadanni will fight back against 60 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: being called bogus. We're told these companies are ready with 61 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: a detailed response to accusations from a US based short seller, 62 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: that being Hindenburg Research. That firm says that the companies 63 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: owned by and Donni engage in brazen market manipulation and 64 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: accounting fraud. The Addonni Group says the assertions are devoid 65 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: of facts. Here's Bloomberg's PR Sungai. Yesterday, Adani Group CEO 66 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: himself came on the television. He had sent out a 67 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: statement and he had come on a video and circulated 68 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: the video widely to say that this is all off, 69 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,559 Speaker 1: you know, malicious and malified, integens, et cetera. Adani Group 70 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: legal had also said the same thing and they are 71 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: also setting up various calls with investors to Alena Fias 72 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: that is Bloomberg's p R Sunji. By the way, we 73 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: are told the Adani Group will reply to some of 74 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: the issues from Hindenberg's report in an eighteen page presentation 75 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: titled Myths of short Seller. Donnie will publish a more 76 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: detailed reply on Hindenberg's one page do cier that will 77 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: happen tomorrow. Brian Toyota will elevate the head of Lexus 78 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: to replace longtime CEO Akio Toyota. Kochi Sato is Toyota's 79 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: chief branding officer and the head of its luxury car division, 80 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: and we'll take over that role on April one. Toyota, 81 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: who has held the since two thousand and nine, will 82 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: now become chairman. Toyota has been the best selling automaker 83 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: for much of Toyota's tenure. However, in Tesla overtook the 84 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: company and market value with its lead in fully electrical vehicles. 85 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Craig Trudel says the new CEO will be tasked 86 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: with navigating the company shift to clean energy. It is 87 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: going to be a challenge for the new CEO to 88 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: sort of take the company from hybrids and plug in 89 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: hybrids to we really need to take fully electric vehicles seriously. 90 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: Established more of a presence, and Toyota is spending thirty 91 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: one billion dollars to roll out its thirty EV models. 92 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: By so walked us through a lot of what we 93 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: saw in the GDP report that is both good and 94 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: also suggests a few issues down the road. But all 95 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: in all, the FED would probably be happy with this report. 96 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. The one thing that 97 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: I think that would concern the FED is that if 98 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: risk appetite gets to be a little too much, financial 99 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: conditions begin to loosen just a bit. I think we 100 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 1: are still at a very fragile point in the FEDS thinking, 101 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: obviously we've got the rate decision, uh next week. You know. 102 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: In terms of the earning story, we were talking a 103 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: lot about the quarterly results that we've been hearing in 104 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: guidance for the current quarter and beyond, Bloomberg Intelligence saying 105 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: that analyst estimates for profits this year will continue to fall, 106 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 1: major regions showing negative revision momentum. So that doesn't bode 107 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: well when you consider the earning story. It's a big 108 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: question though, to to ask ourselves, can we see massive 109 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: job losses and layoffs coming? It doesn't feel like, at 110 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: least at this moment. I wanted to mention the visa 111 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: and MasterCard reports seeing cards spending slow. It's interesting because 112 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: originally spending stage strong because of the big transfer payments 113 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: from government. Then consumers had seemed to spend most of 114 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: it and started maxing out their credit cards. Now we 115 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: hear from Visa and MasterCard that it's actually slowing now 116 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: that kind of spending. So what comes next, recession or 117 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: soft landing? Well, look at hasbro preliminary adjusted EPs below 118 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: estimates and check this out. The company is going to 119 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: cut about fifteen percent of its global workforce this year. 120 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: I would tie that to your uh, your line of 121 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: thinking here on the strength of the consumer. Yep, absolutely 122 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: becomes very very interesting going forward. Okay, it's time for 123 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: global news. The US moves to protect people from Hong 124 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Kong from being sent back, and President Biden slams Republicans 125 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: in his first major economic speech for three for more, 126 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: we get to the Bloomberg newsroom and Denise Pellegrini Denise, yeah, 127 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: thank you, Brian And President Biden, Well, he is accusing 128 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: Republicans of exploiting the death ceiling, and he says he 129 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: doesn't understand the GOP's in fighting. What in God's name 130 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: with the Americans give up the progress we've made for 131 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: the chaos. They're just I don't get it, all right, 132 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: And that's Biden talking to union workers in Virginia. If 133 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans don't come to an agreement over the 134 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: dead ceiling, the U S could default. And Republican Senator 135 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: Tom Tillis of North Carolina wants spending cuts and he 136 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: says Biden's current stance is just not productive. There's no 137 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: question that there are opportunities to cut the current right 138 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: of growth and spending in Washington. And it's on us, 139 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: as Republicans controlling one of the chambers and Congress, to 140 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: put forth an offer and expect Boden to step off 141 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: of his I'm not negotiating stance and get to work 142 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: so that we can do good for the American people. 143 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Until us there on Blueberg Balance Power, the Biden administration, meantime, 144 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: extending a program that protects Hong Kong's citizens here in 145 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: the US from being deported for another two years more 146 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: than that from Blueberg's Nathan Hager. The White House made 147 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: the move on the program, known as Deferred Inforced Departure 148 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: for certain Hong Kong citizens less than two weeks before 149 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: it was due to expire. This now means Hong Kong 150 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: residents would have been deported for overstaying their visas will 151 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: now be allowed to stay until January. In a statement, 152 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: the National Security Council says this demonstrates President Biden's strong 153 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: support for the people of Hong Kong in the face 154 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: of increasing repression by the Chinese government. All right, thank you, Nathan. Meantime, 155 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: Chinese company in the cross fire. As the US rams 156 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: up sanctions on Russia over Ukraine. The Treasury Department is 157 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: now slapping sanctions on Space City China and a European subsidiary, 158 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: accusing the company of giving satellite images of Ukraine to 159 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: the pro Kremlin mercenary Wagner Group. The I m F 160 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: is considering a massive aid package for Ukine as much 161 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: as sixteen billion dollars, US and Germany sending more tanks 162 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: to Ukraine, and Jane Harmon Freedom Health Board chairman and 163 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: former congresswoman from California telling us the US may be 164 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: sending even more after this if we are committed in certainly, 165 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: Lloyd Austin, who's a very impressive Secretary of Defense, says 166 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: we are to helping the Ukrainians win this war. We've 167 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: got to provide them with the and Russia launched a 168 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: new wave of attacks earlier today, build a band TikTok 169 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: gaining steam in Congress. FCC Commissioner Brendan car telling Bloomberg 170 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: Television the Biden administration could deal the final blow. I 171 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: think it should be the precedent for this. We've used 172 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: Scifius before to unwind the purchase of Grinder based on 173 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: having connections back to a Beijing based entity. India has 174 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: banned TikTok across their entire countries, so I think that's 175 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: the right direction to go here. And sciphius, of course, 176 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, and 177 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: James Dolan is now threatening to ban alcohol at New 178 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: York Rangers hockey games. Dolan, of course, is the chairman 179 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: of Madison Square Garden Entertainment. His threat in response to 180 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: that state investigation into how he uses facial recognition at 181 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: his properties to keep political enemies and people. Maybe he 182 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: just doesn't like the claim is out. Global News twenty 183 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: four hours a day on airn and Blober Quicktake, powered 184 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: by more than journalists and analysts in more than a 185 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty countries in the new So I'm Denise Pellegrini. 186 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian 187 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: Curtis in Hong Kong along with Rashad Salat in Singapore, 188 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: and our guest is Dana Doria, co ce Io and 189 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: group president at evest Net Solutions. Dana, the market action 190 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: seems to be clouding this question about when is labor 191 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: going to crack. The market might be sluffing that off, 192 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: but you know, is that coming? Should we be? Um, 193 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: well not yet. We certainly just had another initial jobless 194 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: claims falling this week, so yeah, I mean look, and 195 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: yet we do, of course have all these headlines of layoff, 196 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: particularly in the text actor, but really you know, getting 197 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: expansive headlines around layoffs, so you know these things it's 198 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: going to happen, right, It happens with a lag. It 199 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: usually isn't immediate. It takes some time, you know, from 200 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: the start of a tightening cycle to start seeing you know, 201 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: real numbers in terms of layoffs. But I've that we 202 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: get there. We know markets are leading indicators. Um, we're 203 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: all we're all anticipating that there's decent odds of recession. 204 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: If not um this year, then certainly in the next 205 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: couple of years. So um, yeah, I do think we're 206 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: going to see that. It's not happening now. And I 207 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: think a lot of the numbers that are coming in 208 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: now are you know, markets are kind of interpreting to me. Okay, 209 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: the FED is going to feel good about inflation speaking, Um, 210 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: there's there's too much in the way of concerns about 211 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: a recession. So in fact, we will get the pivot 212 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: um and it's still early to be kind of trending 213 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: that way. I think danea that I mean, we're talking about, 214 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: you know, a huge lag. This is unprecedented how long 215 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: it's taking for monetary policy to be is showing whether 216 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: or not it has any efficacy. And you know, on 217 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: top of that, you look at the GDP figures. I know, 218 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: as a Doug was saying early it's the backward looking indicator. 219 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: But certainly this if this medicine is not working, um, 220 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: well what happens next. I don't know that I think 221 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: it's not working. I do think that, you know, think 222 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: about how quickly those those rate hikes took place last year. 223 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean just you know, very sudden and abrupt um, 224 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: and we are seeing inflation peaking right, wage growth, yes, 225 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: that's that's remaining sticking, and I think that's where the 226 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: concerns still are. But we're seeing a lot of signs 227 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: that you know, we have peeked on inflation elsewhere, and 228 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: so you know, to a certain extent, afety go ahead. Well, 229 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the obvious question is, doesn't this 230 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: mean that the FED stays higher for longer? We've got 231 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: a lot more pain ahead. Oh, I I don't think 232 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: there's a question about that. I mean, you know, the 233 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: thought that there's a pivot. I shouldn't say there isn't 234 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: a question. Um, that's too strong. But I would say that, 235 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: you know, hike and hold is probably more likely than 236 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: some sort of big pivot. Um. I think the Fed, 237 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, the good news is at least it looks 238 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: pretty well priced in twenty basis points the next two meetings, 239 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: and you know, the market can kind of prepare, right, 240 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, investors know what's coming. It seems that at 241 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: least the data gives the FED the opportunity to not 242 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: kind of have to react unpredictably. But but you know that, 243 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: so that's what the markets get. I don't think the 244 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: markets get a pivot at least until the second half 245 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: of the year. Well, Dana, how does this then all 246 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: play into your investment thesis? You know, I've said, Um, 247 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: I've always maintained kind of look over the globally diverse 248 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: by look overseas. I think we're seeing that, you know, 249 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: kind of more than ever at the moment. Right. So, 250 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: and if if you ever needed, you know, a good 251 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: example of why you shouldn't sort of predict and say, well, 252 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it wasn't long ago that everybody 253 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: set up Europe's in for a terrible recession. Um, you know, 254 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: the the gas policy, the war between Russian Ukraine is 255 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: going to cause tremendous strain on the European economy. And 256 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: now here we are and it looks like europe a 257 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: voice recession altogether. Why because you know the weather is mild, right, 258 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: So what does that tell you about kind of taking 259 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: your money out of half the global economy? Um, you know, 260 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: and stay in US only, uh, you know, based on 261 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: just these predictions. So, I do think valuations favor looking 262 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: overseas at this point. If you haven't been already and 263 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: we're seeing that, it would have paid off had you 264 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: been doing that. Yeah, and particularly in China, you don't 265 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: have higher interest rates, you have lower interest rates. But 266 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: I want to go back to the FED. If it's 267 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: hanging its hat on the job market cracking, that could 268 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: be very dangerous because it means that, you know, like 269 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: if you look at the Visa and MasterCard data, spending 270 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: is already slowing. That's actually what we want. We don't 271 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: want job losses. We want the spending to slow down, 272 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: the economy to slow down and not overheat. We don't 273 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: actually want job losses, but they seem to want it. Yeah, 274 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: it's but but that's such a very difficult needle to thread, right, 275 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: the idea that you know, um, you can sort of 276 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: take us to a soft landing that we're gonna tamp 277 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: down demand, but we're not going to hit jobs. I 278 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: think trying to engineer that puts the FED in danger 279 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: of a sort of a stop and goal policy that's 280 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: worked out much Burst Path. This is Bloomberg day Break Asia, 281 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: your morning brief on the stories making news from Hong 282 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: Kong to Singapore and Wall Street. 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