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Speaker 1: Here we go, it's a Friday. It's our two ready

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Speaker 1: to roll. First hour, fu By completely flew by. You know, Jmac.

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Speaker 1: I had a winning week first week. Last week robbed

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Speaker 1: in the Denver loss. I'm not going to complain about it,

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Speaker 1: but probably the toughest beat I've had. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: told you this off aeronon. That's the toughest beat I've had,

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Speaker 1: probably in three years. But you know what, I'm not

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Speaker 1: a victim. No, that's not who I am. I just

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Speaker 1: put the work foods on, grab the shovel and start

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Speaker 1: digging out picks. So here we go is week three.

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Speaker 1: I feel good about it. Blaze and five.

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Speaker 2: Let's blaze it up right up, It's Collins Blazing five

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Speaker 2: Rams said Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Rams plus three and a half,

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Speaker 1: best second half team in the league. Stafford's the highest

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Speaker 1: redded quarterback, but more than anything, it's the number one

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Speaker 1: scoring defense in the league. Both opponents held under twenty

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Speaker 1: Not only are they getting to the quarterback eight sacks

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Speaker 1: from six different players. This defensive front is gnarly. And

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Speaker 1: the Eagles offense they have three plays, just three plays

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Speaker 1: all year over twenty yards. It's a bb gun despite

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Speaker 1: a great o line in Saquon Barkley. I don't get

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Speaker 1: the number Eagles offense trying to find its way, Rams

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Speaker 1: defense getting better by the quarter. I'm gonna take the

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Speaker 1: Rams to upset them. Twenty seven twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Dealer said Patriots.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Patriot as a home dog plus

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Speaker 1: one and a half. Drake May played very well. What

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Speaker 1: I like they're getting after the quarterback. Mike Brable's got

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Speaker 1: that defensive front coming. Also, they've been hard to run

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Speaker 1: on and Pittsburgh doesn't run it anyway. Aaron Rodgers been

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Speaker 1: sacked seven times in two games. They haven't run the

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Speaker 1: ball in Pittsburgh in seven years, and they're not going

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Speaker 1: to run it against New England, meaning Aaron on the

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Speaker 1: road is going to have to throw. And this Steelers defense,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's wrong, but it's a mess on

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Speaker 1: the back end, and they're allowing six and a half

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Speaker 1: yards of play. I like the Patriots straight out to

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Speaker 1: win this game. Twenty seven twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Saint said Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: I like Seattle big. They've held both opponents under twenty

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Speaker 1: points Jackson Smith and Jigba. Yet looks like they found

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Speaker 1: a number one receiver, and that was the concern I said.

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Speaker 1: I thought Darnold was an upgrade. O line will be better.

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Speaker 1: Both have been true. Listen, y'all tell me about Spencer Rattler.

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Speaker 1: Can you win a game? You know, they've been oh

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Speaker 1: and nine the last couple of years against playoff teams.

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Speaker 1: They've lost seven team straight games when they allowed twenty

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Speaker 1: plus points. I'm gonna take Seattle to score twenty points

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Speaker 1: in this game. Spencer Rattler's completing under sixty percent own

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Speaker 1: eight is a starter. They're traveling cross country. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I like Seattle here at home twenty eight to twenty.

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Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even think it feels that close.

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Speaker 1: I think the Saints maybe score, you know, they try

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Speaker 1: to backdoor it and score a touchdown. I think Seattle

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Speaker 1: is going to control this football game and cover Cowboys

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Speaker 1: it Bears. I'm taking the over. I think Dallas will

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Speaker 1: win close, but I'm taking the over fifty and a

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Speaker 1: half points. Listen, the Cowboys have the best third down

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Speaker 1: offense in the league. Against that Giants defensive front. It

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Speaker 1: Javonte Williams. We always liked him in Denver, Dallas picked

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Speaker 1: Steede Lambs having a monster year and the Bears. Bears

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Speaker 1: defense is allowing seven yards of play Clayton Johnson's out

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Speaker 1: and they're bad on third down. So the Bears don't

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Speaker 1: move the change, they will not be able to keep

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Speaker 1: the ball away from Dak Ceedee Lamb George Pickens. So

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Speaker 1: the Bears have too many three and outs and that's

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Speaker 1: a recipe for a tired second half defense missing their

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Speaker 1: I like the over on this game. Bet the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Bears over. Whether it won't be a.

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Speaker 2: Problem here Lions and Ravens Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: You know what I say when Lamar Jackson hosts an

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Speaker 1: NFC team, I don't care what the spread is. It's

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Speaker 1: Ravens minus four and a half. I'm taking Baltimore onotom

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Speaker 1: line once again, number one scoring offense in the league,

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Speaker 1: seven to one. Over their last eight home games, ten

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Speaker 1: here's what I don't like. The defense for the Lions

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Speaker 1: That's near the bottom of the league. And so and again,

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Speaker 1: you know again the first drive, Caleb Williams moved down

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Speaker 1: the clock, keeping your quarterback and your offense on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: Ravens win thirty twenty three. I'll take him to cover

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Speaker 1: the spread. Eric Mangini is now joining us. First things

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Speaker 1: first to see him all the time, Jamack, you said

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Speaker 1: you liked the picks.

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Speaker 3: Love the picks. In fact, Patriots is a smart play.

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Speaker 3: I think at Pittsburgh's way overvalued Ton this could be

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Speaker 3: your first five and zero a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Well, come on, let's slow down, nut hating.

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Speaker 4: Am I big.

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Speaker 1: Guy, Eric Mangini now joining us from New York. So

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Speaker 1: I said, look at he's nodding into Greem and he

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Speaker 1: loves those picks too. You can tell me I like

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Speaker 1: the picks.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know about the New Orleans picks.

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Speaker 5: Seven and a half is a lot of points.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 5: It is the only one I'm worried about.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I was saying this. Sometimes you and I in

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Speaker 1: our lives have watched history. I grew up and I

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Speaker 1: saw Hank Aaron surpass Babe Ruth. I remember that was

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Speaker 1: one of my first sports memories of the kid. And

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Speaker 1: we know we're watching history, and then there's times that

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Speaker 1: it's not necessarily about a record, but we're watching something

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Speaker 1: that doesn't make historic sense. Josh Allen, the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: have not lost the turnover battle in twenty five games.

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Speaker 1: Eric his last twelve games, I get thirty touchdowns in

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Speaker 1: one pick. I've always said the one thing that's hard

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Speaker 1: to coach out of star quarterbacks who have horror is

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Speaker 1: reckless far look manning, name it Elway. It's like you

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Speaker 1: can't tell the guy with the big muscles at the beach,

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Speaker 1: hey keep your shirt on he's just born to show

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Speaker 1: off the fact that he's got this much horsepower and

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Speaker 1: basically now throws the ball underneath, doesn't take a risk.

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Speaker 1: He throws it shows he's coachable, he's humble. I think

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Speaker 1: we're watching his history here in the last twenty fifteen

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Speaker 1: games with Josh Allen. I don't think I've ever seen

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been amazing. And you mentioned Brett Farv, So

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Speaker 5: Josh had the record where he led in the four

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Speaker 5: previous seasons. He had the most touchsounds and he had

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Speaker 5: the most turnovers and it was tied with Brett Farvr.

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Speaker 5: And that's a perfect comparison. When I had Brett Farv

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Speaker 5: in New York, you love the upside. He loved the

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Speaker 5: chances that he took, but he didn't love the fact

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Speaker 5: that he had to take a chance all the time.

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Speaker 5: And then I used to talk to Brett. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: We'll be okay. We don't want to coach it out

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Speaker 5: of you. And obviously at that point in his career

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Speaker 5: of that, and the fact that Josh Allen was able

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Speaker 5: out of the six previous years with double digit interceptions,

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Speaker 5: it's it's really impressive, and it's hard to do because

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Speaker 5: his nature is to take chances. Yes, and for him

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Speaker 5: to go in into now what three games he has

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Speaker 5: done a turnover to this season, it's it's really really impressive.

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Speaker 5: I hope it's sustainable. And if it's sustainable, it's hard

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Speaker 5: to imagine. This isn't the year that they're They're in

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Speaker 1: So I want to talk about Miami for a second,

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Speaker 1: and I know the game is over, but I thought

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel had him ready to play. There were guys

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Speaker 1: wide open. He obviously can scheme people open. He'll get

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Speaker 1: gets released of his duties. I don't doubt that at all.

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Speaker 1: There's some people that are just built to coordinate and

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Speaker 1: they're great at it. Steelers for years had a defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator who's unbelievable and Steve Spagnall, and that's fine. Some

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Speaker 1: people are VP Summer Press whatever. But the TUA thing

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Speaker 1: said the NFL went through a decade where they convinced

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Speaker 1: themselves that quarterback size doesn't matter. Bryce Young, Kyler Murray, Tua,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and you look up now and you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And so my take is on Tua. Jay McK and

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Speaker 1: But I do think watching him throw that pick where

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Speaker 1: it's like he didn't see the linebacker, he's too he's

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Speaker 1: too smart, He's had taken too many snaps to throw

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Speaker 1: that pick. I do think you have to consider going forward,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe this isn't this isn't gonna beat Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's going nowhere Eric for the next ten years.

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Speaker 1: Drake May's a bigger, stronger quarterback. Those teams playing cold weather,

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Speaker 1: ran the Dolphins Latua?

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Speaker 5: just not in front of a good big guy. And

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Speaker 5: that's true. The big guys at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: are are going to win? And the thing with Mike

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Speaker 5: everybody loved the impact that he was having. He was

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Speaker 5: a player's coach, and even Tua really blossomed because he

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Speaker 5: didn't really fit his personality. He clicked with Mike. They

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Speaker 5: go to the playoffs his first two seasons and he's

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Speaker 5: taken a step back. But the issue with two isn't

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Speaker 5: just about the mistakes or his size, but you've also

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Speaker 5: got the concussion part of it, and you just don't

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Speaker 5: the last hit with him. And that's what was surprising

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Speaker 5: me when they initially gave him the big, long term contract.

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Speaker 5: It's a huge risk, not just because of his size,

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Speaker 5: play and a want to or want to play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I didn't like the big contract and I

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Speaker 1: said it on the air, So I said with Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams against the Cowboys, I don't need to win, I

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Speaker 1: need progress. I don't need a dou w. But you

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Speaker 1: can't after the first drive be holding the ball for

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Speaker 1: three point three seconds. The whole offseason, I said, I

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Speaker 1: don't care about yards, wins, touchdowns, get rid of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Play within an offensive structure. Through two games outside of

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Speaker 1: I just I've been saying this. Now, I don't know

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Speaker 1: I had to tell you, I read all these columns

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Speaker 1: pick up third downs. Miami kept their defense off the field.

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Speaker 1: Their time of possession was good, so the defense made

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Speaker 1: some plays. So if you wonder why defenses get bad

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Speaker 1: and fall apart in the second half, it's because they're

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Speaker 1: on the field for the fifty sixth snap, fifty seven,

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Speaker 1: fifty eight, fifty nine, sixty. It's harder to play defense,

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Speaker 1: so the problems come for the inn It because in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: the inability to keep the ball time of possession long drives.

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Speaker 1: That's the key to defenses. It's very hard to historically

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Speaker 1: find a great defense. You can go back to the

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Speaker 1: Steelers great defenses in the seventies. Yeah, they had a

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Speaker 1: great o line, Frank o'harris, Rocky Blyer. You know that

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Speaker 1: defense sat on the sidelines in the first half and

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Speaker 1: watched the Steelers in Bradshaw score a lot of points.

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Speaker 1: And then in the second half with the lead, knowing

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Speaker 1: the other team had to throw, you had a fresh

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Speaker 1: defense in the second half, right Greenwood, Joe Green, Dwight White,

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Speaker 1: great safeties, Jack Ham, Yeah, Lambert. Why because teams had

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Speaker 1: to throw because the Steelers led and the defense was

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Speaker 1: pretty arrested. Go look at your great defense. Almost always

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Speaker 1: there is a running game component. I mean Tom Brady's

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Speaker 1: best defenses. Tom was completing third downs. So if the

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Speaker 1: Bears and Calebs are scoring thirty three points a game,

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Speaker 1: it's remarkable how good their defense will look so oh

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Speaker 1: my god defense, because their defense is watching their offense

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Speaker 1: have eight, nine, ten, eleven play drives. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: be a great defense when you're tired. Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, turn on the news.

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Speaker 3: This is the herd Line News. All right, let's start

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Speaker 3: calling with the game. The major blazon five Lions Ravens.

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Speaker 3: You talked a lot about Lamar's dominance, but Detroit's actually

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Speaker 3: been able to somewhat slow down to mobile quarterbacks and

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Speaker 3: Jordan Love and Caleb Williams. They didn't beat Jordan Love,

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Speaker 3: but he didn't beat them with their legs. Obviously, Lamar

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Speaker 3: is a different beast. Here's Dan Campbell on prepping for

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Speaker 3: the two time MVP.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna have to be on point again. It'll be

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Speaker 7: but I but I go back to this too.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 7: You can't paralyze your guys either like you know, you can't.

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Speaker 7: You can't pull back so far on them that they

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Speaker 7: lose you know what makes them great players, you know,

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Speaker 7: or like a guy like hutch Man. You just gotta

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Speaker 7: be careful. So, yes, we have to be disciplined. Somebody's

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Speaker 7: gonna have to cover for you. If you got a

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Speaker 7: two way go and then man, don't leave your feet.

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Speaker 7: That's always don't leave your feet. You just keep moving

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Speaker 7: with a base until you get reinforcements and let's just

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Speaker 7: close it in on him. But that's that will certainly

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Speaker 7: be a big point emphasis.

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Speaker 1: I think they're in trouble. I think NFC teams facing

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Speaker 1: Lamar when you don't get a regular diet of him.

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Speaker 1: He's a lot those first seven, eight nine. So I

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Speaker 1: think Baltimore is going to get out to a lead

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Speaker 1: and then a golf's going to be playing catch up,

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Speaker 1: meaning it will negate the running game. He'll have to throw,

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Speaker 1: and I like Baltimore to pull away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Still no word on what's going on with Taylor Decker,

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Speaker 3: their offensive lineman.

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Speaker 4: That could be huge.

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Speaker 3: But I would circle Brian Branch in the Detroit secondary.

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Speaker 3: He's an excellent young safety out of Alabama plastick. I

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Speaker 3: wonder if they try to use him in some kind

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Speaker 3: of Kyle Hamilton role where he's more in the box

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Speaker 3: to contain Lamar. He's not as big as Kyle Hamilton,

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Speaker 3: but they don't. Their linebackers are not super fast. They're

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Speaker 3: more beefy, and that doesn't bode well for it from

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Speaker 3: my point of view.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I think the two things I thought

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Speaker 1: they had to work on this offseason in the draft

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Speaker 1: was the interior line and the speed of their linebackers. Well,

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Speaker 1: they definitely addressed the offensive line, but I still think

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Speaker 1: Detroit's liability defensively is they're not great in space with

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Speaker 1: their linebackers.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: Can't stop talking about those guys number one in the

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Speaker 3: heard hierarchy two and oh with wins oe for playoff

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Speaker 3: teams from last year, health is an issue. Colin Let's

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Speaker 3: tackle Rashid Walker believes they can run the table despite

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Speaker 3: these injuries.

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Speaker 8: Hell, we've been playing pretty clean, as it's saying, amount

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Speaker 8: of fact, we've been playing pretty clean. But as far

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Speaker 8: as the offense, I feel like old line has been

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Speaker 8: doing good. Jordan husband playing phenomenally, and I mean we

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Speaker 8: all have just been playing to sing execute and that's

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Speaker 8: why we well, two and oh right now.

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Speaker 2: And then the goal is, you know, keep it going.

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Speaker 2: But I think we can go undefeate it.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, Yo, two and O brow settle down. Here's a

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Speaker 3: weird thing. They're gonna be favored in.

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Speaker 4: All these games.

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Speaker 3: Come maybe they're They're gonna be favored, certainly against Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Next week, they're gonna be favored against the Joe Burrow

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Speaker 3: lest Bengals. They're gonna be favored at Kyler Murray. Like again,

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Speaker 3: where are they going to be dogs here?

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Speaker 2: Maybe?

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Speaker 3: Uh, not even Philadelphia since you're at home. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: don't know if they go, oh maybe Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: But they remind me of the early Mahomes Chiefs teams

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Speaker 1: where they can play from behind. They can play with

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Speaker 1: the league. A lot of teams are not built. Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: is not built to me to play from behind with

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Speaker 1: their power offense. And then there are certain teams that

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Speaker 1: I think are really fun. I mean, is Dallas built

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Speaker 1: to play with a lead? Can they just shut it

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Speaker 1: down and run twelve straight times? I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Dallas can, but they can play from behind with Dak

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Speaker 1: and Pickens and Ceedee Lamb and I you know, I

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Speaker 1: with the Packers, they could be down ten points four

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Speaker 1: minutes left if they had the ball. They're built for that,

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Speaker 1: and they're also built to slow it down, power run it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's nothing about this team so far

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Speaker 1: I don't like. I like everything they do, so I.

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Speaker 4: Would keep an eye on.

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Speaker 3: So this guy Walker ran his mouth right, he's their

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Speaker 3: left tackle, you know who he's facing of the Browns

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Speaker 3: this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Mile scared.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not great.

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Speaker 3: And the guy next to Walker is a replacement the

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Speaker 3: kid Banks he used to be with the Niners because

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Speaker 3: they got the interior injuries. Banks is not good. I

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Speaker 3: would not be shocked if the Browns were frisky here.

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Speaker 1: Packers spent a lot of money of thanks a lot.

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Speaker 3: And also, by the way, the injuries, No, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: look like Christian Watson obviously Jaden Reid. So Matthew Golden,

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Speaker 3: the young kid out of Texas, should get more looks

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Speaker 3: this week. Wicks and Dobbs also with him.

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Speaker 4: We'll see undefeated is just a.

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Speaker 3: Little goofy, you know, don't see it's your two and

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Speaker 3: oh if you're eight and O you want to talk

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Speaker 3: about that maybe. But anyways, final story, Colin, Let's go

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Speaker 3: to this guy named Aaron Rodgers, Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback. With

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Speaker 3: all the injuries to quarterbacks around the league, one NFL

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Speaker 3: reporter believes Rogers is already second guessing his decision to

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Speaker 3: sign with Pittsburgh and is waiting instead of waiting for

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Speaker 3: the right opening. There was chatter, remember he wanted Minnesota

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Speaker 3: because he was waiting out the JJ McCarthy situation. I

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Speaker 3: wonder if he is looking at that Pittsburgh defense and saying,

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Speaker 3: she's man, I didn't sign up to this craft.

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Speaker 1: They can't, sus. So you and I talked about this.

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Speaker 1: This was one of our leading NFL stories in like

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Speaker 1: late July and August, which is what Aaron got frustrated

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Speaker 1: with in New York. A defensive culture, couldn't consistently run

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Speaker 1: the game, spotty pass protection, and basically one big time

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Speaker 1: receiver he trusted. That's the Steelers. He signed for a glossier,

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Speaker 1: cooler version of the Jets. The difference is Sala got

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Speaker 1: run out. Aaron didn't think that would happen, and Tomlin won't.

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Speaker 1: They are the Jets and forty one year old quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: When Tom Brady chose Tampa, Tom smart, what did he say?

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Speaker 1: He brought Dronk with him for pass blocking, He got

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Speaker 1: assurances they would fix the right tackle and he went

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Speaker 1: to a team with a lot of dependable ways. Tom

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Speaker 1: knew what he was doing. Okay, So Aaron chose the Jets,

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Speaker 1: which is so strange. He's a West Coast guy, he's older.

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Speaker 1: He chose a team that hasn't consistently passed blocked for

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Speaker 1: seven years and hasn't run under Tomlin for six to seven.

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Speaker 1: So this is just the Jets with cooler uniforms. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's the same, you know recipe.

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Speaker 3: So remember Brady went to Tampa and not only did

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Speaker 3: he pull Grunk out of retirement, but he got Antonio

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Speaker 3: Brown like living in his basement, and he got Leonard

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Speaker 3: Fournette to come with. So he had his guys in

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Speaker 3: New York. Aaron Rodgers got everything. Remember he got the OC.

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Speaker 3: I've already forgotten that guy's name.

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Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett.

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Speaker 3: Hackett, I think he's delivering pizzas in New Jersey, but

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Speaker 3: come on, I mean, honestly. And then he gets Alan

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Speaker 3: Lazard and Randall Cobb. Hey, Aaron, friends come on down

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Speaker 3: and they stunk. Pittsburgh gave him none of that. Has

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Speaker 3: he got any of his guys. They drew a hard

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Speaker 3: line in the sand, and he's probably just unhappy, if

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Speaker 3: this NFL insider is to be believed.

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Speaker 1: Don't look at which Stafford chose. Efford Shoe's offensive guy,

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Speaker 1: Sean mcdaigh a great left tackle, and Andrew Whitworth a

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Speaker 1: consistent run game.

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Speaker 4: Cooper Cuff at the time was a stunt.

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Speaker 1: So it's like Stafford and Brady figured it out, Like

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Speaker 1: we want an offensive coach. The O lines gotta be right.

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Speaker 1: This team's got to be able to run the ball,

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Speaker 1: and do I have weapons and an offensive sensibility. Aaron's like, Ah,

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Speaker 1: the Jets didn't work, Let's try it again. Like I

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Speaker 1: don't get that. I never understood the decision.

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Speaker 3: Aren't you excited for like maybe five more months of

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Speaker 3: Rogers because he's retiring this offseason. He's gonna be done

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Speaker 3: and then we're not talking about it next season. So

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Speaker 3: enjoy it. Rogers. You're missing the playoffs this year.

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Speaker 1: Buddy, We'll see Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I've always said this about the news coverage.

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Speaker 1: People say it's too liberal, it's to this and that.

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Speaker 1: It's not just the coverage, it's the stories the media

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Speaker 1: it chooses to write or ignore. It's all story selection.

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Speaker 1: That's where I see so much bias in the NFL

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Speaker 1: for these quarterbacks as they get old. It's not necessarily

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Speaker 1: once you're there, you have to choose the right place.

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Speaker 1: That's what it's about. When you're an old quarterback, You've

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Speaker 1: got to choose the right place. Stafford chose smartly, Brady

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Speaker 1: offensive coach, weapons easy division chose wisely. I just don't

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Speaker 1: think Aaron did. I do not think. I do not

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Speaker 1: think this is a great fit for him. We'll see.

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Speaker 3: What's so beautiful about Iowa?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I mean listen to that. I mean, you know you

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Speaker 1: may want to.

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Speaker 4: I've never been.

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Speaker 3: I've never tell me what's some beautifl I mean you're

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Speaker 3: treating it like it's Rome or Paris or something.

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Speaker 4: Come on, what's beautiful about Iowa? What am I missing?

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Speaker 1: Lakes? I saw one of the more beautiful sunsets of

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Speaker 1: my life. Good tell the first of all wheat in

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Speaker 1: the right light can be beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Come on, by the way, Uh, I do have some

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Speaker 3: friends who went to Iowa, so I'm not being negative

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Speaker 3: on it.

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Speaker 4: I just have not been to Iowa.

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Speaker 1: It's the Paris of the Midwest.

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Speaker 4: Is that what they say?

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Speaker 1: That's what I say. So sometimes you see something, you

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Speaker 1: see a stat or something, and you're like, WHOA, that

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Speaker 1: can't be true, right that that'll happen, Like even our

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Speaker 1: staff or something. They'll see a stat and they'd be like,

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Speaker 1: we gotta double check on that. That does is Google right?

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Speaker 1: Is Chad gpt? Are we sure it's right? Whereas it

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Speaker 1: is it's getting too much of its data from Reddit,

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Speaker 1: Like what's going on here? Most consecutive games with fewer

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Speaker 1: than thirty points? These are active current active streak. Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid and Mahomes are on the list. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, Bears, and Jags are way up there, but

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Mahomes are on that list. And I

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Speaker 1: was thinking about this so last year. We always knew this.

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Speaker 1: In baseball, when you have like back to back long

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Speaker 1: playoff runs, they say fatigue sets into your arms on

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Speaker 1: the pitching staff, so you may want to make some moves.

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Speaker 1: If you have these long, excessive playoff runs year after

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Speaker 1: year after year. Maybe the Dodgers are having that problem

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Speaker 1: this year. They've just asked so many biginnings out of

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Speaker 1: their pitchers. So Kansas City's going for a third straight

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, right, And it's a lot of pressure, and

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of fatigue, and it's a lot of intensity,

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Speaker 1: and it's a lot of drama. Is this the natural

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Speaker 1: progression this year? The team just it's tired. They don't

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Speaker 1: have the juice. Remember when the Patriots were going for

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Speaker 1: they wanted to be undefeated. Remember that year they lost

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Speaker 1: to the Giants in the Super Bowl, But there was

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Speaker 1: so much pressure. I remember at one point they was

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Speaker 1: at the Eagles or the Ravens they beat, and everybody

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Speaker 1: was talking about officiating and it wasn't fair, and the

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Speaker 1: league wants them to be undefeated. And it was just

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Speaker 1: every game after Thanksgiving felt like so much pressure for

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Speaker 1: New England and you've got to beat the Giants and

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Speaker 1: there's so much pressure. And they got to the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl and they were kind of flat and they didn't

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Speaker 1: win a playoff game. That Patriot team, that stacked Patriot

693
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Speaker 1: team did not win a playoff game for three seasons

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Speaker 1: after that. A lot of pressure and a lot of fatigue.

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Speaker 1: That's the downside. The history is that you put all

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Speaker 1: the chips in. Sometimes you're playing hurt, you make moves.

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Speaker 1: I mean in the NFL, it's understood if you win

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Speaker 1: back to back Super Bowls or three, you're the greatest team,

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Speaker 1: arguably the greatest dynasty ever. You are willing to get

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Speaker 1: up chunks of your life to do that. And I

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Speaker 1: when I watch Kansas City this year, it is yeah,

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Speaker 1: they sometimes to me they lack a little juice. On

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Speaker 1: both sides. You get more famous, everybody gets paid. There's distractions,

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Speaker 1: there's fatigue, there's distractions. I don't know, they don't have

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Speaker 1: a ton of juice. I think they'll beat the Giants

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Speaker 1: this weekend. But I mean it's one of those numbers

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Speaker 1: that you look at and you're like, this can't be true.

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Speaker 1: Most consecutive games with fewer than thirty points. Saints or tie, Saints, Chiefs, Texans, Jags.

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Speaker 1: It's the class they're in. All right, Week three schedule,

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Speaker 1: we have a great reporter coming on last hour, Robert Maye.

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Speaker 1: You want to stick around for that. He's got all

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Speaker 1: sorts of thoughts on the Bears and the Cowboys, and

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Speaker 1: more so Week three schedule. I don't see a ton

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Speaker 1: of upsets on the schedule. I don't think the Rams

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Speaker 1: beating the Eagle rises to an upset. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: what the line is not just two and a half

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Speaker 1: to three. At three and a half, I am taking

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Speaker 1: the I am taking the Rams. I don't see a

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Speaker 1: lot of upsets now that Jaden Daniels is out. If

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Speaker 1: the Raiders beat Washington without Jaden Daniels, that doesn't rise

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Speaker 1: to an upset. Cowboys Bears is a one point spread,

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Speaker 1: so that Vegas is telling you if the Bears win,

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Speaker 1: that's not an upset. I don't think Arizona with all

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Speaker 1: their injuries on the road. I think they're bubble bursts.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Detroit and that wouldn't qualify as an upset.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything? I mean? Is there anything? You? We

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Speaker 1: have one every single weekend? J Mac? We have one

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Speaker 1: every single weekend. Where's the upset? You know?

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Speaker 3: Two of them jump out? Tampa Bay is down. It

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Speaker 3: looks like four offensive linemen. They've said Wurfs will not play,

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Speaker 3: and they're coming off a short week. The Jet strength

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Speaker 3: is what Colin did defensive front. There's a world I

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Speaker 3: know it's Tyrod Taylor in for Justin fields, but there's

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Speaker 3: a world where the Jets keep that close and interesting

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Speaker 3: and Baker doesn't pull one out of you know where

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Speaker 3: to end the game like he has in the first

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Speaker 3: two weeks. I would keep an eye on the Jets.

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Speaker 3: The other one is it's fishy and it's funny. During

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Speaker 3: the commercial break, I said to you, what's up with

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Speaker 3: the Chargers? Why are they only favored by two and

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Speaker 3: a half against Denver. By the way, if the Chargers

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Speaker 3: win this, they're three to zero in the division to

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Speaker 3: start the season. That's huge because obviously Kansas City's reeling.

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Speaker 3: Denver would start one and two Casey, you know, would

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Speaker 3: definitely be behind the eight ball Chargers. I think this

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Speaker 3: is going to get to three and I maybe going

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Speaker 3: to this Chargers game on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: This could be a big game of the weekend. It

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Speaker 1: could be the game of the weekend. Two great coaches,

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Speaker 1: two capable quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Just for the record, last year, Chargers dominated them in

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Speaker 3: the first game in Denver, it was bo Nick's early

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Speaker 3: second one was something of a shootout and the Chargers

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Speaker 3: took over in the second half.

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Speaker 4: I think they're just really good, man. I think they

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Speaker 4: could be in the AFC Championship.

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Speaker 1: That yes, yes, I mean Kansas City's pulled back. Burrows

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Speaker 1: now out of it. I don't think you're Houston's not

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Speaker 1: what we thought. And by the way, Ravens bills both

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Speaker 1: those defenses back end full sessions. Yeah, sus mid